/x/ - Paranormal

>>19805

Continuing my thought process, one could easily say "Oh, just live off the land, off the books!"

I would respond that the human conscious is a fickle thing that tires easily of repetition. "Familiarity breeds contempt."

One could survive off the land, living in a rural forest, hunting and farming for sustenance, but you could only do that for so long. You need a project, something to work on that doesn't involve other people (at least for very long). You could start a wilderness colony, but people would learn of you not dying and someone would tattle. You need work, need some goal.

To pick one at random…cancer research.

Endure. You may not be able to experience certain luxuries or live comfortably as you say, but you'll have the greatest gift of them all and that is life. Eternal life at that.

>>19806

You could spend several lifetimes researching a cure for cancer, but the question is how.

You need access to advanced medical technology. You can't go around finding a high powered microscope or expensive drugs to mix on the side of the street. You need funds, you need the proper channels to obtain materials to fund your research. How do you do that? Well, a regular schmuck can't just get a government grant. For one, you need documentation, either pre-existing evidence that what you propose could work, or a diploma stating that you know what the fuck you're talking about, hell, you'd need a goddamn address to send this shit to.

But even then, now the government is watching you and expecting results. And while a 5 year deadline for results may not seem so bad, after 10 or more years of doing the same back and forth of researching shit someone would be liable to notice you weren't aging. Even if you bailed after those first 5 years of government funded research you wouldn't just get to hope the state line and continue, they have your face and name. They've got your existing documentation, you can't do jack shit.

You need a permanent place and name, you need a stable identity to do this research, and while that could work, doing that world for any period of time longer than 10 years would bring you under scrutiny. Publishing medical journals after spending half a lifetime researching cancer would mean you know what you are talking about, but the local doctor from the nearby college will have read your work from beginning to end and will want to meet and discuss and when you show up as a young man when you've been publishing for 40 years means somethings up.

>>19807

Correct. One could live without certain luxuries, but you need something to keep you sane. Living a life as a farmer is nice, but try doing that for more than 50 years and you could go loopy. The easiest solution would be to find something to do, whether it be writing books or carving wood. You could do this for either the betterment of mankind or for personal gain.

Doing this for the betterment of mankind means that while you fly under the radar with failed experiments and research that leads to nowhere you can learn a lot, get good at whatever topic you're pursuing, but once you hit gold and succeed, you'll be under a microscope. You could learn how to divide the atom, or could discover a drug that makes your cock 3 time bigger, but then people will be watching and learning about you. Wikipedia's first fact about someone is when they were born, and if you spend 20 years learning pharmaceutical science to develop the drug that makes your cock bigger, then spent 10 to make the damn thing without it causing your dick to explode, people will be confused as to why you're X age when you've spent 30 years doing all this, giving 25 to go to college, a total of 55 years, and you look not a day past 30.

>>19809

The other side of that coin is you're doing something for personal gain. Not glamorous, but hey, the bills need to be paid somehow. You spend time getting good at something, you'll do just that. And of course gain notoriety. Even if you make your profit selling things off Etsy or Ebay, they need a solid address and name, and files will need to be made keeping track of your transactions. After doing this for 100 years or so, selling a knit sweater a month, or coding little sprite video games, someone will take an interest in you. And while it is the age of technology, anonymity is difficult to come by.

The fundamental questions are as follows:

How does one secure one's existence?

Which leads to: how to get updated paperwork, how to live without raising suspicion from others, how to live without going insane?

Then we move on to: how do we do things that immortal beings are cast for? How does one dedicate a century to molecular manipulation without raising suspicion while at the same time doing meaningful research?

Where and how does one lead their life so you aren't caught out by a government intent on kidnapping you to discover your secrets?

>>19811

To be open ended and irritatingly vague, how does a person who has miraculously obtained immortality survive in a world that has no boundaries, where information is a valued commodity and considered a right, where eyes and ears are everywhere and secrets are hard pressed to keep?

>>19809

Thay is undoubtedly true, after a decade or so the mind will start to deteriorate, if you let it anyways. Dedicate yourself to something, you could be a farmer as you say for 50 years, in 50 years the world will be different. That means different opportunities and in another 50 everyone you know will be dead.

Keep yourself busy would be my suggestion, but its easy for a non immortal like myself to say that, I'd imagine its definitely easier said that done.

>>19811

In the Twilight movies (shitty example I know) they move around every few years to avoid raising suspicion.

>>19813

I meant a century not a decade, a bit drunk excuse me.

>>19813

For this discussion what I'm referring to is more literal. I'm happy to discuss the mental and emotional aspects of immortality, but for this instance what needs to be set out are the literal "guidelines" on how to survive. >>19814

That may be true but documentation is needed 9 times out of 10 for a lot of things involved. Want to move cross country and buy a house? Need money. Want a credit card? Need verification. "Moving around" may be vague enough to get by in a shitty vampire movie, but in the real world concrete steps need to be made.

>>19819

Well if you're wanting literal guidelines my friend unfortunately no one here (i'm suspecting) can help you. Unless they were immortal themselves. Other than that we can just speculate.

However, i do know that if i were immortal such thoughts would not manifest in my mind. You're immortal. Literally the Holy Grail.

>>19821

I guess what I'm looking for is advice. How to go about "under the radar," able to survive and lead a productive existence without being whisked away by scientists against ones will.

>>19821

I guess what I'm looking for is advice. How to go about "under the radar," able to survive and lead a productive existence without being whisked away by scientists against ones will

>>19823

In all honesty I do not know. I mean you could obviously move from city too city every 10-15 years or so, but you'd quickly run out of options. Not to mention to how dangerous it would be, you could change your name get fake passports etc but one small mistake could put you at risk of capture.

With that being said you'll get to see the great technological advancements we'll achieve in the next 100+ years, so maybe then you could get some sort of help.

As I see it, there are the two ways OP present that you can live, but I would like to expand on it.

You can live as a famous figure, making sure you are always watched by paparazzi, cameras and fans. Problem is, they will always know where you are so you can't hide, but they can't kidnap you because you are always in sight.

To live off the grid with fake ID, is the way the current immortals have been living for centuries, unless they are hidden in some secret military base.

The third way is to switch yourself out for a new identity every time you are 50 years old. You take the place of another person every time you look young to your age. In this method one should establish a relationship with a mortal being and their family, as to prove to them that you are immortal. These people will have to work with social IDs and information as to help provide you with your fake identity. But there's a risk that it can always backfire.

Fourth solution: Help make everyone immortal. If everyone becomes immortal, there are no normal mortals left. Thus you become the majority and society will have to face the fact that you are. This is my most desired option for the future.

If you want to go off the grid, find someone that has done it and learn from them.

>>19805

Perhaps you only have to realize you already are an immortal being.

You'd think if you had unlimited time on your hands you could learn to fake a god damned ID. Or even learn how to get into databanks to add a person or something.

Shit you could just move to a third world country without a government recording people data every so often then "immigrate" to a first world country.