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 No.22079

What do you all think of the theory of there being a 3rd shooter at Colombine? An anon mentioned it to me yesterday and it caught my interested so I decided to gather random info from the internet and put it together.

Here is some evidence that was released released - including the witness statements known as the 11k. Items not released include security footage from the admin office which was shot out, the basement tapes which Harris and Klebold discuss their intentions in, and these will supposedly not be released until the sheriff in charge leaves office. Why is this dependent on the sheriff's leaving, not a time?

Over 100 of the witnesses give a description of a shooter that doesn't match Klebold or Harris. Something frequently mentioned is a tie dyed shirt, and 40 of the witnesses mention a dropout called Robert Perry, who often hung around the campus and was known for being a very angry person.

Witnesses naming Perry include

Crystal Archuleta "…she did see one person throw a pipe bomb. …..She told me at the time she thought it was Robert Perry." Seth Dubois "…Seth told Katherine(Carlston) that Robert Perry was seen shooting a girl in the back while leaving the library." Bryan Frye "He stated that the person he had previously believed this shooter to be was Robert Perry. …..In a previous interview, after receiving his yearbook, he had told his father that he believed the shooter to be Robert Perry. He also stated that the gunman had bad acne." Courtney Haulman "There was three guys. The guy I remember most was the main guy. He's over 6' tall and has long curly dark-colored hair. He was wearing a trench coat. His name is Robert Perry." Katelyn Sue Place Kate said, "It was (Redacted). I'm almost positive of it. I remember looking him dead in the eye. He was in my debate class….. . …Dylan kind of looked like Robert, but Dylan doesn't have the long face. Robert's teeth are messed up and he was smiling and I saw his teeth then. Kate said that she has since seen pictures of Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris, and she said, "It's not one of them."(Referring to the person she saw shooting out on the outside commons.) She remembers him shooting Ann Marie(Hochalter). …. Robert was just randomly shooting. …Robert was still shooting. ….Kate said that Robert shot Ann Marie before he smiled at Kate. ….She looked and saw Jason(Autenrieth) trying to help Ann Marie, dragging her away from Robert, to the side." Lacey Smith "On the diagram she depicts (Redacted) as walking in through the doors, past where she was sitting, and going in about as far as they north end of the school store. It was at that time she heard the windows breaking and then realized she was hearing shots. "….she did not have any trouble indentifying PERRY when he walked past her. I asked SMITH how sure she was that the person she saw and spoke with was (Redacted). I asked, "90 percent sure? 50 percent sure?" Her response was "100 percent sure." I then showed SMITH a photo lineup which included a picture of Dylan KLEBOLD, and asked her if the person who walked past her was in the lineup. She stated he was NOT in the lineup. …..As (Redacted) passed her and was near the commons area of the cafeteria, she then explained that (Redacted) pulled a weapon out from under his trench coat and started firing into the cafeteria."

The alibi Perry had was provided by his mother (who worked for LE) and she died of unknown circumstances in 2008. Here's a picture of Perry.

The mother of Anne-Marie Hochalter killed herself in a pawn shop. She supposedly was looking at a gun, loaded it, shot herself in the head, and then shot at a wall. Also worth mentioning is that two columbine survivors (Stephanie Hart and Nick Kunselman) were shot by a mystery gunman in the very same Subway store that the first victim - Rachel Scott - worked at. Were they causing too many issues?

Witnesses to the transaction in which the TEC-9 used in the massacre was purchased described the buyer as

"w/m, 6' long curly hair, shoulder length wearing blackjack pizza shirt acne on face 20 years old"

This person did not ID them as Klebold or Harris, but picked someone else from the photo lineup.

 No.22080

there were six shooters


 No.22081

>>22080

Can't tell if trolling or not but elaborate please?


 No.22083

here are a few witness accounts on the 3rd shooter, there are about a hundred accounts but text limit.

According to the final report of the investigation, only two people–Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17–planned and executed the mass shooting at Columbine High School outside Littleton, Colorado, on April 20, 1999, leaving 15 dead and 23 wounded. But at least 101 eye- and ear- witnesses remembered it differently:

1) Chris Wisher, sophomore (1261) He turned and saw two guys carrying shotguns, and wearing black trench coats. A 3rd guy wearing a white T-shirt and jeans was seen throwing bombs onto the roof.

2) Jake Apodaca, sophomore (653) He was at the soccer field, heard firecrackers. He turned and saw two guys carrying shotguns, wearing black trench coats and black T-shirts. A 3rd guy wearing a white T-shirt and jeans was seen throwing bombs onto the roof.

3) Jonathan Cole, freshman (749) He noticed two tall guys in black trench coats. He then saw a third male, wearing a white T-shirt and blue jeans. This person looked over to the other two suspect, and yelled "GO!! GO!!".

4) William Arapkiles, freshman (660) He states that he was at the soccer field, and heard firecrackers. He turned and saw 3 people near the West entrance. Two were wearing black trench coats, and carrying guns. The third was wearing a white T-shirt, and no visible gun. The person in the white T-shirt was pacing back and forth about 5' away from the two gunmen.

5) Channel 7 News at 12pm(noon) on 4-20 (EP 21-244) "Reporter said that numerous witnesses he spoke to who were not named said they saw 3 gunmen."

6) Lindsay Elmore, junior (332)"I believe there were 3 gunmen." (340) "…there was so much movement that Elmore thought there was more than two people."

7) ACSO Nelson (8810) "… a list of 3 names that the 12 witnesses ID'd from a yearbook were turned over to ACSO investigators to forward."

8) Jason Baer, sophomore (1759) Hid in greenroom off science hall "I heard more than two people yelling to each other saying 'over here' and stuff."

9) Anthony Sammauro, freshman (5071) "Tony stated that two suspects came in the front door and one came in the side door."

10) Erik Sunde, freshman (4576) Saw two gunmen downstairs near cafeteria, runs upstairs and sees another person in trenchcoat in front of library doors.

11) Jon Curtis, staff (2286) Describes 3 attackers.

12) Richard Olejniczak, father of students Alicia and Sarah (5070) "Richard then asked this Investigator what information had been obtained reference any other participants. Richard stated that while he was at Lea Wood Elementary School, waiting for information about his two daughters, he talked with two girls who came from the school. The girls said they had seen two guys in the cafeteria, wearing all black. There were also two guys who entered the main door from the parking lot. One was in black, the other in white. The girls said they all had guns.

13) Adam Campbell, senior (732) Walked out of school at 11:20am(immediately before shooting) on 4-20 and saw Harris in the parking lot with 2 or 3 other guys, wearing a white T-shirt and a backward baseball cap.

14) Matt Katzenmeier, sophomore (5745) Saw 4 subjects carrying bags in, according to Darlene Mesch.

15) Alicia Maes, sophomore (22755) Saw 4 people with trenchcoats and guns, according to Rachel Nelson.

16) Natalie Baker, freshman (2583) Told her mother there were 2 other shooters besides Harris and Klebold.

17) Jennifer Tindall, sophomore (1226) Sees 2 suspects, neither of which is Harris and Klebold.

18) Ryan Ezzie, sophomore (2967) Saw 4 people outside with hats on backwards. On 20612, he says he "…saw at least 4 parties dressed in black standing calmly when others were running."(by the school library)

19) Jordan Grimm, freshman (22432) According to Jordan's aunt, he saw Harris and Klebold and 2 others together ouside school just before the incident began.

20) John Spahlinger (1176) Clement Park maintenance worker, "a majority of the students Spahlinger helped informed him there had been a trench coat mafia gang shooting over at the high school and that there were 4 shooters involved."

21) Thornton/NorthglennPD SWAT Team (EP 9-34) At 11:35pm on 4-20(12 hours later) the team enters CHS for another search. "We were advised that 2 suspects(shooters) might still be in the school."

22) Littleton PO Mike Eyman (8670) Advised that "there were possibly 4 suspects in the school."


 No.22084

Do you all think the Basement Tapes will ever be released to the public, if they even still exist? Also what could be the possible reasonwhy the 3rd shooter wasn't arrested and tried? Over a hundred eye/ear accounts of Robert Perry being a 3rd shooter and nothing was done about it.


 No.22091

>>22084

I remember reading somewhere that the Basement Tapes were destroyed. I don't remember where, though.


 No.22097

>>22091

Yeah I wouldn't doubt it man, pretty sure it showed the lack of policing by the department in that town.


 No.22099

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>22081

Not him, but police documents, eyewitnesses and other forms of evidence indicate somewhere between 3-6 shooters. A lot of bullet holes were found in places the two known shooters were not present in. A lot of people knew that something big was going to happen on that day. The kids who did the shooting were not bullied, they were bullies. The bodycount is probably much, much higher than the official story.

In fact, the official story bears almost no similarities to the events that actually took place apart from the fact that there was a shooting at that place on that day that Klebold and Harris took part in.

Embed related (goes off the deep end towards the end, but much of it is just quoting from witnesses and police reports).


 No.22103

>>22084

>>22091

>>22097

Yeah I know it's the lost media wiki, but it sums up the tapes apparently and has two of the five. You guys are right the remaining three were destroyed by the police department, and copies were never made of those.

They were worried that troubled youth could get a hold of the tapes and go on another rampage.


 No.22104


 No.22109

>>22099

3-6?? Goddamn i made this thread cause i found out about a possible 3rd shooter, now its maybe 6? thats crazy, i'll definitely check that video out thanks anon


 No.22150

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>22109

I wonder why such an event needed to be covered up and the narrative shaped in such a way. I also wonder why the SWAT teams took so long to enter.

Not related to Colombine, but another example of a '90s era event where well-documented reality is in massive conflict with the official story is the Oklahoma bombing. The embed shows senior police referring to multiple devices and even disarming said devices.

Did you know that the FBI tortured an innocent man to death in a case of mistaken identity? Did you know that Feds that got a message warning them not to show up to work that day later turned up to "rescue" people and even wore fake bandages whilst doing so. Did you know that Timothy McVeigh wrote letters to his family where he basically admitted that he was working deep cover for the feds? Are you aware of his specific requests regarding his execution? What did the air force have to say about the bombings?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgfi1QZILxk

Sorry for the kind of off-topic, but 90s conspiracy stuff is quite interesting. TPTB/jews hadn't yet come to appreciate the implications of universally available VCRs plus the internet.


 No.22154

>>22150

Yeah i know its odd, and i used to be obsessed with Columbine in my early teens i wonder how i never came across the conspiracy.

I think thats a rule or a tactic for SWAT, just look at the french swat and how long it took them to enter the Bataclan during the Paris attacks a few months ago

i could be wrong though

Fuck to be honest i didn't know any of that haha damn that definitely sounds interesting though. I'm assuming thats all addressed in the video you linked? Thanks anon i'll watch that!

lol no worries, its interesting!


 No.22157

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>>22150

It wouldn't look good for any of those involved to release information regarding the shortcomings of the investigation and the real depth being concealed. Beyond conspiracy theory, this has been proven to be true of the FBI, CIA, Police investigators and the US gov in almost every situation.

The one question I have about this is who was receiving the benefit of letting this go on for such a long time. There's usually a reason that investigators and admin will fail to prevent a problem, considering the gubmint is pretty hot for people suspected of making bombs or drugs anywhere the rest of the time.

tl;dr: Who' got the crackerjack prize at the bottom?

pic related: Kleboid and Harris had a pretty comfy circle of friends for guys who were considered alone and depressed.


 No.22158

>>22157

Yeah i think thats why The Basement Tapes were either destroyed or will never be released. It shows how these kids planned this out for months, bombs, weapons, without the police stepping in. Dylan & Eric were known by police already, having been arrested for stealing computer equipment. So these weren't just the quiet kids that no one would suspect something crazy from, these are the EXACT type of kids you'd expect something from.

And yeah i think thats why they won't get released, it shows the lack of policing/failure to act.

His friends the "Trenchcoat Mafia" were actually reported by multiple witnesses as being there when the shootings were happening.

I'm listening tothis interview that talks about the possibility of other shooters, he gets a bit far out as far as the conspiracies go but its a great listen.

http://host2.cyberears.com/13065.mp3


 No.22162

>>22099

I just finished listening tot hat video and man was it interesting. It definitely helps enforce the thought of there being more than two shooters. There were definitely more than two people involved considering a good amount of friends knew the attack would happen.


 No.22163

>>22099

This stuff was most likely covered up in order to protect law enforcement/school administration from having their incompetence exposed. After watching this, it seems like most of the people involved in the shooting escaped justice. It also makes it seem like their were multiple obvious warning signs that were ignored.


 No.22165

>>22163

Yeah definitely WAY too many warning signs. This whole thing could have been avoided, literally the whole situation. But the cops decided to be lazy fucks and not step in, as well as the parents/friends.


 No.22166

>>22165

It's a shame that there's probably little chance of an independent investigative journalist looking into things at this point. It's been so long since it happened. There are probably anons posting on 8chan right now who were born after the shooting. Time flies.


 No.22169

>>22166

It really is a shame, there is tons of evidence. Whether they were directly involved or not there are people who got off Scot free in their involvement with Columbine, they're walking around today.

Yeah its about 17 years old now and I'm 20 so its almost as old as me.


 No.22189

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Could the friends that were involved even be arrested now or is it too late for that? I mean that didn't necessarily have to be at the school shooting to have been involved. Some friends got guns for them, some got pipe bomb making materials and made the pipe bombs for them. How the fuck did they get off scot free??

I think the claims that the friends didn't know this was going to happen is complete bullshit to cover their own ass.

DYLAN Klebold: I’d like to make a thank you to Mark John Doe and Phil John Doe. I hope you don’t get fucked. [Eric laughs; Dylan continues] “We used them. They had no clue…Don’t blame them. And don’t fucking arrest them. Don’t arrest any of our friends, or family members or our co-workers. They had no fucking clue. Don’t arrest anyone, because they didn’t have a fucking clue. If it hadn’t been them, it would’ve been someone else over twenty-one.

Klebold: We’ve been planning this for over 8 months.

Harris: At least.

Harris:Thanks to the gun show, and to Robyn. Robyn is very cool. [Robyn was a friend of Klebold who had purchased the gun for him.]


 No.22195

>>22080

I hear from my sources that it was 7


 No.22204

I'm sorry, it was me.


 No.22206

>>22195

I hear from my sources there were 2


 No.22207

>>22204

were you also the second gunman at sandy hook?


 No.22209

>>22195

>>22195

I hear from my sources there were 2


 No.22211

>>22209

MSM is lying to you anon


 No.22228

I hate getting into Columbine because I know ill never see those fucking tapes. Granted most of them are just Eric and dylan talking and shit. But i'd still wanna watch them, pretty sure Jeffco snubbed them though.


 No.22238

If there was a third shooter, and the authorities know it, why aren't they prosecuting him?

Is there any recent information about his whereabouts or he just disappeared?


 No.22259

>>22238

Well the presumed third shooter was a (then) Columbine HS dropout named Robery Perry, that still regularly hung out on the campus.

Jake Apodaca, sophomore, was at the soccer field, heard firecrackers. He turned and saw two guys carrying shotguns, wearing black trench coats and black T-shirts. A 3rd guy wearing a white T-shirt and jeans was seen throwing bombs onto the roof.

Jonathan Cole, freshman, noticed two tall guys in black trench coats. He then saw a third male, wearing a white T-shirt and blue jeans. This person looked over to the other two suspect, and yelled "GO!! GO!!".

and there are many many more eye witness reports of Perry being there but as far as i know he was never prosecuted, i don't even think they looked into it, period.


 No.22260

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>>22238

>>22259

Imo it just adds to why Jeffco hasn't/won't release the basement tapes. In all honesty they're probably destroyed.


 No.22261

>>22238

Also his alibi was that he was at home asleep, his mother woke him up and he saw the madness unfolding on the news. Though there are tons of eye witness reports of him being at the school wearing a white shirt and blue jeans.

I figure Jeffco since already had their two man suspects, Eric & Dylan, they just said fuck it and didn't look into the other suspects.


 No.22266

I don't know anything about a third shooter, but one of the lesser known Columbine theories is that Eric Harris was raped by a police officer and the people that he and Klebold shot were the other kids who had made fun of him for it. It makes more sense than blaming goths or Doom.

http://columbinefamilyrequest.org/2011/03/walsh-butt-rape-sheriff-pat-sullivan/

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/08/psychiatric-detention-silencing-allegations-columbine-was-revenge-for-police-rape-2459592.html


 No.22270

>>22266

Not necessarily a 3rd shooter but definitely an involvement from the friends. Multiple students saw a man with a white shirt and blue jeans.

Oh shit I've never heard about that ill definitely look into it. I have heard a theory where Dylan & Eric got beat up by Jeffco when they got arrested for stealing that electric equipment


 No.22280

>>22158

>http://host2.cyberears.com/13065.mp3

Thanks for posting this anon, veeeeery interesting stuff. Gets a bit out there at the end, but all the stuff from police reports and eyewitness stuff is utterly damning.

Everyone should give this a listen. Lots of extra information and it goes far beyond anything as simple as a third shooter.


 No.22281

>>22261

It wouldn't surprise me, police are really incompetent, no matter how much cop shows tell you otherwise.


 No.22311

>>22280

Yeah definitely dude, the guy has a couple of theories that go off the deep end but the actual facts that he presents are undeniable.

Now the question is is why the fuck didn't Jeffco do anything about it? I'm assuming they got the two main suspects Eric & Dylan, so they just said fuck it and didn't look into the other suspects.


 No.22312

>>22281

Yeah and it sucks man because those people got away with it, no matter how little or big their involvement was it doesn't matter they still contributed to this tragedy, and they're still walking around today,


 No.22315

It doesn't surprise me that the story is sketchy at best. The 90s were a time where State sponsored terror and machinations g rew exponentially.




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