/x/ - Paranormal

I'm not exactly an expert on tulpas to begin with, especially not the internet's version of them, but thought-forms are creating through extreme effort and investment of time. Traditionally it takes a very powerful, trained mind (as in years of spiritual training or meditation) as long as several years of intense focus on a single object/concept to give it some form of presence in reality.

You don't have a strong, tempered mind. You don't even have the mental strength or cohesion of an average human being. The fact that you would even consider that a single entity (which is greatly influenced by medication) among many fucked up hallucinations that suddenly appear as a result of a disease could be a tulpa is absurd.

I would blame your fragmented psyche, but this is about what I've come to expect from the average chan occultist. Don't put faith in your visions, because they won't be consistent. A change or medication or a new psychotic episode might turn your new friend into a very, very bad influence.

>>22307 Thank you for your response. Im not typically into the occult or visist /x/ often I was just wondering if there was a connection why he kept coming back or not.

And another thing I should mention is that my pdoc and my therapist say that he might be a reflection of how i see myself. Thats one of the main reason i asked about the tulpas

>>22295

That's some fucked up shit OP, I'm definitely not gonna forget your story anytime soon and I would advise extreme caution.

I don't claim to be an expert and you should take what I say with a pinch of salt but I have had a tulpa for the past 5 months now and I would agree with >>22307 that for a normal person a thoughtform is very hard to make and requires a lot of training in order to loosen your inhibitions and believe that it is actually real, I would guess your problem or even gift with schizophrenia (and the main difference between a tulpamancer who has the condition and one who doesn't) is that your mind doesn't inhibit delusion as well as everyone else's does, so basically while I am trying hard to tear down the walls of reality and let in the delusion, you don't have to because it is already done for you, except your challenge is not to free your delusions but to control them. So you see, as tulpamancers we are trying to reach the same goal but from totally different directions.

As for your question OP, a tulpa can benefit from being your hallucination but a visual hallucination is not necessarily a tulpa, for a hallucination to become a tulpa it will first have to be sentient. So based on your example, I would say that yes, you made a tulpa.

But again, I would advise caution OP, because that is fucked up so just be careful.

>>22295

Could you draw a picture of him in paint and post it here?

Wait a minute, the Rake? Wasn't that some louy attempt at making a Zalgo/Slenderman clone?

>>22434

Something liek that it just showed up while searching for skeletal demonic creatures awhile back.

Op here i should not have used the rake as an example because it might confuse people. I do not see or believe in the " the rake"Just like most creepy shit on here. But it was justa good picture to compare>>22432

>>22432

>>22295

Schizophrenia has been associated with peoples kundalini rising spontaneously.

A kind of information overload. Too much info from too many sources to process.

High doses of Niacin can be useful for some of the symptoms. The only serious side effects are flushing of the skin.

Sounds like a thought form to me. Maybe not something you created, but something hanging out in your vicinity.

Sometimes people see ghosts, and so the ghosts follow them around because they like the attention. So I imagine it might be the same for other things/entities.

My advice, on top of using the niacin is to use prayer with intention. You don't need to be religious, just be sincere.

We all have things that look out for us but they don't interfere becuase we are supposed to learn on our own, but they are there to help when we really need it.

op,

i also have symptoms like schiz.

schiz roughly means hearing voices, its the one symptom that only schizophrenia has

however i only got that v2k shit after making a 9/11 + fluoride + gmo dvd… what youtube didnt delete of the dvd is at /u/bleeat88

after that i was 24/7 surveillanced by some advanced weaponry i assume was satellite

i highly suggest we assume theres no such thing as schizophrenia

theres only ayys and a punishment for being pro-human and anti alien

when i got v2k i searched internet for medical cures to voices…

i found the previous christian treatments of schiz:

- pre-medicine: drown the person in a lake - if she floats she wasnt a witch

- hand crank drill to the skull, drain blood out of brain

- lobotomy with icepick

- shock torture until unconscious

- tied to bed 24 hours a day

- drugged and locked away

- lithium was the #1 treatment for 10 years in the 90s, lithium is so toxic its used for chemo to kill unkillable mutant cancer cells

and more bizarro surgeries…

it occurs to me they never tested the environment, all those people they tested, they never tested once for sound wave mind control, EMF (magnet fields), or even radio and electricity, or Scalar waves…

in fact one engineer has proved that he receives microwaves on video with an oscillator…. if you can find his video its an asian guy on youtube from usa, an engineer, i think the search was 'targeted individual microwave proof'

start at the shielding thread at \r\reptiliandata

you can shield your room for $4-5 ……….

you can test your own environment for $100….

dont trust any of these other idiots! [not x but… scientists]

a quicker way out is: romans wore metal helmets and breast plates (B/c theres a large nerve, vargas nerve, that goes from ear to heart) so try that first

>>22451

ugh that first sentence was supposed to be:

voices is the symptom that differentiates schiz from other diseases

>>22452

>>22452

oh yea check the lobomotobile movie/wiki on google if you dont believe me about medicine

founder of american psychiatry and neurology

drives around for 40 years giving icepick lobotimies to haunted people before he was stopped

didnt test the environment for infrared/radio/emf once

since then none of their treatments worked

and 100,000,000 cases of mental in the USA [1/3 the population!]

>>22453

/r/targetedenergyweapons is good also

My question would be why post the story here. Why take the time?

I've been with schizophrenic patients before and they would've been paranoid as fuck before going on to post shit like that on a website like this. Shouldn't you be in major fear? or are you taking all this?

>>22492

Honestly i know im already tracked and being watched by my pdoc. But i guess i just wanted an answer that he could not provide because he's never even ehard of a tulpa. Im not afraid of the internet im afraid of tv's and adds. All they wanna do is control your thoughts and make you act or dress a certain way. But why would i be in major fear its not like im on the deep web. I havent said anything thats truly damning . My pdoc as heard it all before i guess he just likes to keep a watch on me.

>>22492

And another thing you must have never been around a schizophrenic with computer access because it there are sever online forums and chat sites for people with mental illness . It helps to talk about it i mean i was terrified at first but when you realize its just feaceless people on the internet its not so scary.

>>22610

Thank you veyr much for your reply i found it very helpful and insight full. I know he is not real, he and my other hallucinations seem so real at the time but my pdoc says i have good reality testing. Like i look for signs to validate that whatever im seeing is a hallucination or real. Its hard though sometimes.

>>22526

Yeah no computer access for them.

Also quick question

Do you feel that schizophrenia affects your dreams? As in you have over the top violent or just weird as fuck dreams?

>>22295

It's just your mind being fucked up. You can call it a Tulsa or whatever if you want, but it's just part of your mind. Get some better meds, brother.

>>22646

Some times i feel that i have crazy dreams that make sense mainly due to the medication, Lots of night said affects, I'll wake up in the morning go get some coffee go smoke have a conversation with someone and then go lay down and remember nothing, idk if it has anything thing to do with my actualy schizphrenia.

>>22648

Thats the goal is to find the right medication and doses. My pdoc says it could take years but even though he considers me a sever case he has faith in my future.

>>22664

severe*

>>22295

hi OP, that must be really horrible, sorry to hear that.

I personally take similare stance as >>22451 >>22444

I do not believe schizophrenia is a real disease, just like I don't believe depression is a real disease (and I am telling this as a person who was treated for depressions), more like a spiral of bad experiencess that produce more bad experiencess that you can't defend yourself from after you lose a solid point of reference in your life.

I often noticed that schiziprenic people know a lot more about the reality than "sane" people, just that they are so overloaded and confused that it seems insane to other.

For example here, >>22517 you are 100% correct about TV and ads, it's no secret that both television programming and marketing is made to influence all people, not just you. But schizophrenic person makes abstract connection much more easily than normal person, so you might connect it to your specific problems which will be seen as insane to "normal" people. When TV is in fact made to create public opinion. So you see correctly that TV and ads are evil, but you might see even more into that, so deep that it won't even make sense and seem insane.

Like >>22444 (checked) says I think schizophrenic people grew spititualy too quickly too soon and they need to learn how to control their deep insight.

Now to your "friend", he could very well be a tulpa, bad that does not mean that he is a good tulpa that wants to help you, especially when he is telling you such bad things. I would advice you against giving him more attention because he does not look like he wants anything good.

On the other hand I heard about different anon with schizophrenia (but not so severe), that actually made tulpa that was protecting him from his hallucinations, so you might start with a completly new tulpa, someone that is created to not even be able to be evil, like the famous jackie chan tulpa, even though it is more of a joke, something like that might work. Still it would be probably safer to not go into tulpamacy until you get more control over your life and thoughts.

Wish you a lot of courage anon, because that really sounds very scary

>>22757

So are you saying that schizophrenic people have better understanding and get more in depth with stuff than other normal people? It actually seems plausible if you ask me

BUMP

>>22664

Another question;

How do you fare with video games? You play them at all? If you do, do they help you feel relaxed or anything different?

>>22837

Im alright with video games, i used to be better when i could focus but the lithium and klopin through out the day seems like fuck me over. But i do find them relaxing its just shittign when i have a voice make jokes about me, or making crazy happen all my room. Sometimes they like it and quiet down but other times they act up.

>>22838

Okay thanks for answering anon!

I'll have some more questions tomorrow

>>22841

No problem man .

I await your questions .

I'm speaking here as an amateur tulpamancer whose tulpa was made a couple of years ago but never developed past the point of being an imaginary friend.

>>22295

The commonly accepted definition of a tulpa is a mental construct created through purposeful effort and much practice. So no OP, I would not call your Anthony a tulpa. He is something related, but the terminology is wrong because there was no intention to create him. He's just an imaginary friend (or if you prefer a more clinic outlook, a halucination). It's semantics.

I almost called your Anthony a "delusion", but that's not quite right either. You are clearly not deluded. You know that he isn't real and that you shouldn't follow his bad advice.

The way that you reinforced this illusion by conversing with him is the way that tulpas are strengthened, so it's related. Anthony, however, should never grow strong. Tulpamancers program specific abilities into the thoughtforms that they create, and you never did such a thing with Anthony. You never programmed him with any tulpa abilities like being able to dull your headaches for example. That time and focus spent strengthening Anthony didn't give him any new abilities, so he became no more dangerous than the day that he first appeared to you.

Please don't start trying to create tulpas. I am certain that you have some talents and are very good at some things, but thoughtform is not one of them. It seems to me that a schizophrenic dude trying to create a tulpa is like a blind man trying to become a taxi driver. You're just not set up for it.

Listen to your doctor. Her treatments have worked twice now in getting those voices under control for you. That seems to me like solid long term progress is being made.

>>22862

thanks anon. eye opening. Im honestly glad hes not a tulpa solo thing is that they can get powerful as while it seems like he could get stronger i dont think he could actually hurt me.

>>22295

hey op

i went through a similar thing

i made a video today about mk ultra and ion weapons

maybe you can appreciate it or maybe its too early

either way in the video description theres links for $5 emf shield and $12 Emf / rf detector.

gl bro

>>22899

teh video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QSQhYHI2OQ

>>22432

If he goes away with a change of meds he can't hurt your family dude.

Learning to grieve properly can be hard. When I broke up with my ex (we really were in love) I didn't feel anything at first, but now a year later I'm letting it hit me and I realized I needed to grieve to grow as a person.

Crying is ok. Even if it's just in the shower while you're home alone, it can actually initiate positive chemical reactions in the brain.

>>22912

I guess I can only say time will help it.

Start lifting in the meantime with /fit/, that will give you mental fortitude that you need.