No.14858
Don't you guys think we should do something?
I mean, we're pedophiles. We're being opressed by a society which doesn't accept us. There's a few of us in here, I don't really know how many. And I suppose nearly all of us want pedos to have rights. How about we finally stop whining and do something? If we want anything to change, we have to make it change.
Do you not think its just about time to start a pedophile movement? Unite the open and closet pedos all over the world, spread this board's everywhere you know, gather people, become known to the media. We can be open about our sexuality on the internet. No one's stopping us. People have to see that we, the good pedos, are real and common, and we don't mean any harm.
No.14860
>>14858>We can be open about our sexuality on the internet.We are. What are you actually proposing that we do?
No.14861
A good idea, but I wouldn't sacrifice myself to save every single one of you. Call me selfish and what-not, but I am definitely not marching in your fucking pride parade holding up pedopride banners.
I might do safer things though. Unfortunately, it is becoming increasingly obvious that safe measure are very ineffective without a large scale coordinated effort (run by people who accept the fact that they run a high risk of being ostracized or even killed) behind it. That too, has been tried, by NAMbLA, and all it did was bring the matter to the front of social consciousness and make things worse.
I also don't trust any of you. Most of you are faggots who would blow all the funds to buy ISIS lolies for yourselves. Tfwnlvfjsje is a narcissistic idiot who I wouldn't trust to organize a 1yo's birthday party.
You could still go grassroots, but you will probably never unite all the pedos to start. The 8-12 group hates the 4-8 group; girl lovers hate the disgusting faggot pedos; everyone hates the nepiphiles.
But you've got all that, k? Now what do we do? Shill on forums? Buy billboard advertisements? Run for public office? Commission art and film with subtle and tasteful loli themes, and release it for free to slowly influence the public conciousness? Infiltrate other groups and subvert them? Start donating to children's hospitals and hope to get 'Pedophile Foundation' on the donor plaque?
No.14871
Well, I suppose a reasonable step could be to raise public awareness that a pedophile isn't automatically a child rapist. I'm sure people more creative than me can come up with lots of ways to do that, but a few that spring to mind are letters to various blogs or radio shows/podcasts, as it's an interesting topic to make a posting or show about. People running these shows and blogs get to talk about entertaining fringe topics, and people who identify as pedophiles(nepiophiles, whatever, take your pick) get the benefit of perhaps having these things brought to light in a thoughtful manner.
No.14872
>>14871Believe it or not, a well done article on this subject is read by people, and it changes their perception on things. Some people conflate pedophiles with child molesters simply because they have never been challenged once in their lives to think in any other way. When you tell a gripping tale about someone's son who felt cornered and helpless in the world for his sexual attraction, mothers reading it will jerk tears.
Definitely write to people who run stories. Write to people who have ALREADY done a story. If the story was good, LET THEM KNOW, feedback signals to them what they wrote is important, and it might be worth their time to write more about it. If the story was shite, TELL THEM WHY, but don't waste your time on people who make it clear they're unwilling to change their way of thinking. Offer your feedback and perspective to people who seem interested.
It's not that hard. Most everyone here has a good enough grasp of the English language to do it.
>>14861>Start donating to children's hospitals and hope to get 'Pedophile Foundation' on the donor plaque?I would die happy
No.14878
>>14858I've been open and active on two forums for several years. On one of them, I got banned last year and a lot of people were actually against the ban. I'm convinced that my ban was actually a good thing because it so clearly underlined how unfair it was. On the other forum, it has just become common knowledge that I'm a pedophile and I'm certain that I've made a lot of people think.
I'm not going to try to do something big, although I had a fantasy of trying to, long ago. À la Jack McClellan except hopefully not terrible. But I decided that I don't give too much of a shit.
We need to make people aware that pedophiles aren't child molesters, and that pedophiles can be good people. But trying to fight for
pedophile rights, will be problematic. Contrary to homosexual rights, black rights and whatever else have you, we're not one homogenous group. We're the pedophiles and the children. That's problematic because the children are not fighting with us.
No.14882
Maybe I'm biased by the media as well, but I don't think that pedo rights would help much.
What rights do we want exactly?
I'm against the lowering of AoC. I'm against the thought that children could decide who they want to have sex with. Not because they can't, but because children are so fucking easy to manipulate and there will be people abusing their new rights and talking children into something they don't want.
To make it short, I want more acceptance and rights for myself and some others I got to know here, but I don't want these rights for the other pedos. Those who don't think everyday about getting along with their sexuality. Those who are actual child molesters and deserve that title.
No.14883
Honestly, it's now that easy. At work on our breaks we have the news in the UK about this big inquest into investigating abusers from the 70s/80s, and I heard one journalist say something like "He was involved in pedophilia." Erm, pedophilia is a sexuality, not an activity.
It's a witch hunt, everyone hates pedos weather they're perfectly innocent or not, they think you're perverted and wrong.
No.14884
I'm fine with the status quo, honestly.
No.14888
>>14878are you implying that "blacks" is a homogeneous group?
>We're the pedophiles and the children.Excuse me? We are not the children.
I see so many tools here trying to flip this from a pedophile rights issue into a child rights issue. It is not. It is entirely about the right for an adult to have sex with a child.
It's the most facetious trick in the world and everyone time someone uses it, it just makes rational people groan and roll their eyes. It's like big business campaigning that third worlders should have the right to wage slavery in their sweatshops.
No.14889
>>14888>I see so many tools here trying to flip this from a pedophile rights issue into a child rights issue. It is not. It is entirely about the right for an adult to have sex with a child. Yea, except that's bullshit. The law doesn't say it's illegal for adults to have sex with children. The law says that children don't have the legal right to give consent.
>rational peopleWhy don't you clarify that a little? If you mean, you + society, then you should know that the feeling's mutual.
>kids don't wanna have sex>we've gotta stop these kids from having sexAnti-logic.
No.14898
Okay, well, since it seems we're not all quite in agreement about extending the rights of pedophiles, if this is a thread about taking measured action to produce tangible change, I suppose we should all focus on something that we do agree on, that that seems to be not extending our rights, but affirming our existing rights as human being for dignity and equality of treatment.
Nobody seems to disagree with the assertion that speaking out to various content creators to spread the message that pedophilia is not, as was very gracefully pointed out by
>>14883, an action, but rather an orientation. Changing people's knee-jerk reaction of this group of people isn't a pie-in-the-sky goal, as many people that I've known who have talked about the topic for a few minutes have gotten over their initial condemnation of the attraction itself.
I think that one parallel that can be drawn to the gay rights movement is how attraction isn't (you could argue that it is sometimes, but the point is that it isn't always) a choice for people. Even though many people still consider homosexuality to be personally gross, the number that agrees they shouldn't have their rights limited despite these personal views is growing every day due to the massive awareness and rational discussion of the issue. I think that this success is replicable in the matter of pedophilia, though I admit not as readily. We're not looking for perfect here, we're just looking for better.
So I suppose the next step for us specifically in this thread could be to aggregate a list of various potential candidates to write letters or give positive feedback to like has been previously suggested. Perhaps those with more experience in writing formal letters could also pitch in with good online references on letter format, or personal tips/help with editing.
If this isn't agreeable, I would of course love to hear more perspectives on what realistically could - and should - be done, as the issue is broad enough that there isn't one right answer.
No.14899
>>14889>Yea, except that's bullshit. The law doesn't say it's illegal for adults to have sex with children. The law says that children don't have the legal right to give consent.Hilariously overt self serving semantic cop out.
You care because it affects your right to have sex with children.
Not their right to have sex.
Your right to have sex with them.
That is your entire interest. That is where it begins and ends.
case in point:
>we've gotta stop these kids from having sexNo one is saying this. No one is going to jail because they didn't turn their 6 year old over to the authorities for playing doctor with the neighbor's kid. And if they are, they are the minority.
They're saying "we gotta stop these pedophiles from having sex with kids."
Cry your alligator tears.
No.14901
>>14888I don't think you understood what I was trying to say. When I said that we are pedophiles and the children, I meant that the affect parties are pedophiles and children, whereas homosexuals, blacks, etc. do not have separate groups that they are tied to that would also be affected by those rights.
>I see so many tools here trying to flip this from a pedophile rights issue into a child rights issue. It is not. It is entirely about the right for an adult to have sex with a child. That's exactly the problem. Our issue concerns not only one group of people, it concerns both pedophiles and children. It becomes problematic because children is an entirely different group of people from us, meaning that fighting for 'pedophile rights' will be problematic since not all affected parties will be engaged. If black people don't have rights, it negatively affects all black people and it is relevant to all black people. If they do have rights, it affects all black people likewise. But when it comes to pedophile rights, it is something that would affect both pedophiles and children, which makes it problematic - unless the children actually joined us and fought for the same rights along with us.
No.14915
>>14901With that argument you could say black rights is of a concern to both blacks and whites. Black rights certainly affects my ability to deny black applicants from employment at my place of business.
No.14919
>>14899Then why can't children post naked photographs of themselves online? It doesn't even involve sex.
No.14921
>>14919I'm fine with it as long as they wait until they are adults to post it.
It's like getting a tattoo, you shouldn't get one the moment you think of it, you should wait awhile to see if you liek it later on down the line.
Children are still developing their personalities and there is a huge chance they'll be embarrassed of the things they did as a child. Memories fade, but CP stays on the internet for people to jack off to forever. For their own sake they should have to wait awhile.
No.14923
No.14927
>>14915Alright. I think we should drop the comparisons. The thing is, if you imagine a 'pedophile pride' parade, it wouldn't be complete until the parade is made up of both pedophiles and children who are all enthusiastic about what the parade stands for. If the parade is made up only of adult pedophiles, it is problematic because we cannot represent everyone who is directly involved and affected by the movement.
No.14928
>>14921Disallowing it to protect them is an alright argument, but it does take the original argument off course. Even if it is for their protection, his implicit statement is that in this case it is not about pedophiles' right to do anything, but entirely about what a child is allowed to do.
No.14929
>>14927>Alright. I think we should drop the comparisons.How about you drop your opinions and adopt mine while youre at it buster.
No.14930
>>14928The original argument is irrelevant because children will always have restricted rights compared to adults.
Always.
Forever.
The original argument was also about sex while the example he gave was by his very own admission unrelated to sex.
>It doesn't even involve sex. No.14934
>>14861>Most of you are faggots who would blow all the funds to buy ISIS lolies for yourselves.XD
>>14927Mobilise the lolis then, I guess. There are sure enough in the hebe range who exercise the rights they don't have, the problem's how to get them to make noise about the ban…
No.14948
>>14934>XDYou laugh at me, and that was partially intended to be humorous, but NAMbLA (at least allegedly), financed a Thai orphanage, where media and police claim that members could go 'visit'.
Regardless if what were doing with it or not, it should have been obviously that the fact that they had close ties to a home for vulnerable children would completely destroy whatever sympathy the public may have had.
That's related to another reason why this is unlikely to work. I've found that must pedos are completely retarded at public relations. If we did do some sort of public education campaign, there would probably be done idiot who would try to see normies on how great loli vagina taste, and then the media focuses on that and the public is outraged and we get classified as a terrorist group and disappeared. If you tell them to shut up, they'll cry about censorship and free speech and either get louder or go start their own club. There is no way to make a cohesive front without forethought and consensus to a party line, which we cannot guarantee, and a single misstep will ruin everything.
But back to sponsoring lolies in distress, it is a very noble goal, but even if none of us took advantage of them (or even wanted to), the public would still hate it. It would be too much, way too soon. Shit, I bet faggot rights groups couldn't build a Thai orphanage without arousing suspicion even today. Maybe after twenty years of progress we could try rescuing lolies, but a single instance of abuse would again set us back those twenty years.
No.14964
>>14948We're not talking about some big organization here, just what a few people who read this image board can maybe do. Sending letters to small time content creators is not some crazy, unachievable goal.
No.14965
>>14930Just for you I've compiled a complete and exhaustive list of things which will be always, forever:
> No.14966
>>14948Listen to this man. He is extremely wise and knowledgeable.
No.14968
>>14965Children will ALWAYS have restricted rights compared to adult citizens. ALWAYS.
Wanna prove me wrong? Go right the fuck ahead, I'll be here waiting with baited breath, just for you.
No.14990
I don't think a "movement" is quite what we're ready for. Society is nearing a sea change, as the first generation to grow up with Internet porn takes the reigns of the world. But overt activism isn't ready for primetime yet.
I think if there's any work to be done, it's on an individual basis. There's way more pedo and pedo-friendly women out there than anyone suspects. The main trouble is that for them, it's usually not an urgent thirst, just something they enjoy. So, they still tend to gravitate towards partners with more conventional stability, comfort, and attractiveness.
We need to create families with strong sex-positivity, so that a significant portion of the next generation will grow up with the feeling that children making choices about how to enjoy their own bodies and relationships is a normal thing. We've got to get pedo women on board with believing that this isn't just a fun, hot, or liberating idea; it's the right thing to do, and they should pick it over a guy who won't give them that opportunity.
No.15072
There is one thing we could do to get a more sympathetic view, but it's kind of distasteful. It would require someone with totally clean record and a good reputation to come out and beg for acceptance, then, uh, be killed or at least severely hurt because of that, and get it covered on major news.
Any volunteers?
No.15073
>>14968Nothing lasts forever…
I'm a little confused as to why you chose to respond to my response my reasserting the original assertion and then demanding proof like you didn't understand what I said. So let me explain in a simpler way.
>Children will ALWAYS have restricted rights compared to adult citizens. ALWAYS.There won't ALWAYS be children. There won't ALWAYS be humans. There won't ALWAYS be an Earth and Sky, you fucking mong. Literally nothing lasts forever.
But on a much shorter time scale, do you really believe yourself when you look at a budding social movement and say stupid shit like, "Well, they can't change that, because it will always be that way."
Here is a list of similar claims made throughout history with the same level of "evidence" behind them, and which ultimately had the same amount of staying power. The following statements are now, ALWAYS have been, and ALWAYS will be true, until time immemorial. Amen:
"We can't let fags go around fucking each other up the ass. That's something called and ab-bomb-o-nation. Here, you don't believe me? Lookie here. It's right here in the got dang bible. You're(sic) little jew lawyers can make whatever queer legal arguments they want, but it's right here in the bible, and that shit don't change."
"It's not as if I don't feel bad for them, my dear boy. I do. But it's simply science. Here, see for yourself. You want an article? Here's 10! All from today's top scientific minds in the field of racial genetics and all saying the exact same thing. Negroids and Whites are fundamentally different. Through grace of God or some other means, Nergos just fare better working on a plantation with a set schedule and strict disciplinary measures. Studies have shown time and again that these "free blacks" up North have statistically significantly higher levels of mental illness. Look… look at the.. the data from the skull guys. Ahh… hell, what do they call them? Phrenologists! Look at all the biological differences…. You have to understand, I really wish no ill will on them. That's why I want to do what's best for them. It's up to us to shoulder the White Man's Burden and help the negro out by keeping him in his natural place. There's nothing wrong with doing an honest day's work, and they get job security, room and board, food… My God, man! We should be so lucky. I attended Yale University for 7 years to get where I am today, and I still have to pay for my house. I wish I could tell you otherwise, but no amount protesting can overcome genetics. It's unfortunate that some of them become afflicted with Drapetomania, but it's just scientific fact, and the wonderful thing about scientific fact is that it never changes, my good boy. Besides, then who would employ the slave catchers? No, best not to mess with a delicate balance. Now run along and study, or you'll end like them, eh? Hahahaha"
"The Jews are taking all of our Deutche Marks/Papyrus, and need to pay it back with forced labor for 99 generations."
"Well, we've gotta sacrifice someone to Quetzalcoatl/Barkley, the Sumerian Blood God who takes the form of a dog with human eyes! That's just how it's ALWAYS gonna be."
And so on and so forth ad infinitum into the past and the future. In fact, the particular combination of short sightedness, baseless claims, loud demands of proof from the other side while offering none yourself, unprovoked hostility, and interesting capitalization makes me think you are either underage b&, /pol/, or both (>imblying there's a difference lol).
So, since you love to shift the burden of proof, tell me just one single thing that will ALWAYS be.
>I w8 with b8'd breath bb, jus 4 u. No.15074
>>15073Whoa, holy shit…
I didn't expect it to be that big until I posted it and it suddenly flooded my entire screen. Sorry about that. I guess I got a little carried away…
Still.
No.15075
No.15092
>>15073>There won't ALWAYS be children. There won't ALWAYS be humans. There won't ALWAYS be an Earth and Sky, you fucking mong. Literally nothing lasts forever.Semantics. Almost like you know you don't actually have anything worthwhile to say. While adults and children exist, children will never have completely equivalent rights to adults.
>and which ultimately had the same amount of staying power.Tens of thousands of years across uncounted civilizations, in which of them did children, as described by the society they lived in, function exactly the same in their society as the adults? Tell me which ones?
You're nitpicking microcosms of various societies and comparing it to a fact that HAS ALWAYS BEEN. You know, because you know you have nothing real to say.
As long as adults and children exist, children will have lesser rights compared to adults. They may get more rights than they do now, it will never be the same as the rights adults have.
>>15074It's ok, just save yourself the embarrassment and don't post at all next time.
No.15123
>>15073I know enough anthropology to know you're right in a general way, but there is one iron law: the strong rule the weak. They may not always exert rulership concretely due to power imbalance being very small, but it's always there. Conflict can always become decisive.
And children, no matter what anyone does, will always be weak by their nature, because they enter the world knowing nothing but that they need mother, and they grow independent imperfectly, over a process of years.
Children will never be free. It wouldn't even be good for them. But they could be more free than they are now, in a way that would be. That is what we as pedophiles want.
No.15125
>>15092>Semantics. Almost like you know you don't actually have anything worthwhile to say.This is not an argument.
>While adults and children exist, children will never have completely equivalent rights to adults.You're a fucking idiot.
>Tell me which ones?How about Ancient Greece you colossal faggot?
>you know you have nothing real to say.I am still waiting for you to make one single argument, or at least respond to what I asked you, you illiterate mong.
>As long as adults and children exist, children will have lesser rights compared to adults.Couldn't even wait for the next post to reassert this without evidence, huh?
>never There you go again…
>don't post at all next time. No.15126
>>15125ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
oh fucking jesus christ this is too beautiful
>How about Ancient GreeceYea how about it?
>the rest of your post>bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwChildren as defined by their societies will never ever ever ever have equal rights and exist as equal citizens to adults, for as long as humanity exists.
Eat shit and die screaming subhuman, you know you've got jack shit.
No.15127
>>15123>but there is one iron law: the strong rule the weakWhat an incredibly simplistic worldview. Is no-one nice or compassionate in your world? No parent loves their child. No employer ever had sympathy for their workers. Your claim is not only wrong, it's promoting and incredibly destructive worldview.
>Children will never be free.Not with defeatist cunts like you on our side.
>It wouldn't even be good for them.Please tell me you simply didn't give this even one single second of thought before you posted it. That is the only possible way that it would be acceptable for me to be looking at this sentence right now.
>That is what we as pedophiles want.I've noticed most pedophiles don't seem to agree with me. They're so fucking brainwashed they believe societies bullshit over their own instincts. So I don't know that you can use "we" like that you white-flag waving frog.
>they enter the world knowing nothing but that they need motherAnd yet many grow up without one and turn out just fine.
>And children, no matter what anyone does, will always be weak by their natureWhat is it with Antis and Self-Loathers? They seem to have no respect for children. I guess it's because thinking they're weak and stupid is because the only way you could justify taking their rights away like that to yourself.
No.15128
>>15126Given on discussion have we? Then stop posting.
No.15129
>>15126>subhuman/pol/ plz go
No.15130
>>15126>Children as defined by their societies will never ever ever ever have equal rights and exist as equal citizens to adults, for as long as humanity exists.
>says the same thing>still no evidenceWe know you're wrong, stop rubbing it in.
No.15135
>>15127>What an incredibly simplistic worldview. Is no-one nice or compassionate in your world?I don't know, why don't you take a look at the actual existing world around you?
>No parent loves their child. You heard it here first folks, exerting any measure of control over your children ~literally~ means you do not love them.
>No employer ever had sympathy for their workers.How many employers give equal control of their business over to their employees?
>Your claim is not only wrongExcept no it's completely accurate and you will not find even one single other poster to agree with you.
>Not with defeatist cunts like you on our side.Pesky reality, always getting in the way of my retarded pipe dreams.
>Please tell me you simply didn't give this even one single second of thought before you posted it. That is the only possible way that it would be acceptable for me to be looking at this sentence right now."This is not an argument."
>I've noticed most pedophiles don't seem to agree with me. gee it's almost like you're fucking wrong or something.
>And yet many grow up without one and turn out just fine.Fine, defined as?
Name someone who grew up fine without any sort of parent figure. Just one.
>What is it with Antis and Self-Loathers?>if you don't literally dismiss reality you are an anti or a pedo.Look at this retard. Look at him and laugh.
No.15137
>>15135>if you don't literally dismiss reality you are an anti or a self hating* pedo. No.15139
>>15130Evidence: All of human history, every single second of it.
That wasn't a rhetorical question by the way.
No.15140
>>15127>Is no-one nice or compassionate in your world?They are, but not to the point that it will stop them exerting their will if they can.
>They seem to have no respect for children.Children are weak, in that they have great difficulty exerting their will against that of an adult.
No.15143
>>15127>What is it with Antis and Self-Loathers? They seem to have no respect for children. I guess it's because thinking they're weak and stupid is because the only way you could justify taking their rights away like that to yourself.It's like I'm really browsing BoyChat!
No.15144
>it's because thinking they're weak and stupid is because the only way you could justify taking their rights away like that to yourself.
… if they weren't stupid and weak, would we have been able to take their rights away?
No.15145
>>15092>While adults and children exist, children will never have completely equivalent rights to adults.This is a red herring. Of course they won't. Even if in the books they had all the same rights, they'd still have less "rights" simply by being smaller, weaker and less experienced.
The rights we take away from them, though, are taken away for reasons. You cannot justify taking away rights from them just with
"They will always have less rights than adults". For reach right they don't have, there has to be a good reason for it. Clearly, your statement is correct, but it says
nothing about whether or not they should be allowed to have sex with adults or film themselves masturbating or whatever this conversation branch came from. Maybe they should be allowed to, maybe they shouldn't, but your statement is not an argument in either direction. Come up with a reason why they can't have this specific right compared to adults instead.
No.15146
>>15145>You cannot justify taking away rights from them Have I?
No.15147
>>15145Let me try to clear it up and make an attempt at sticking to what's important. I hate it when I see massive shitstorms over nothing.
First someone (>>14888) insinuated that this entire discussion is about pedophiles' rights to have sex with children.
Then a reply (>>14919) asked about how it is also not allowed for children to take naked photographs of themselves. This was to show that, at least in some cases, it
is about the rights of children because in such cases, pedophiles are not involved.
Then you stated (>>14930) that children will always have less rights than adults, completely derailing the thread and the discussion.
No.15148
>>15146If you are
>>14930 and/or
>>14968 then yes, you're saying that children can't have the right to take naked photographs of themselves because they will always have less rights compared to adults.
No.15149
>>15148That's not a justification, that's simply stating a fact of life, at least at the moment. Maybe it will lower to some degree in the future, but I seriously cannot see the age someone can throw up dick pics online being an age that is relevant to pedophiles as opposed to hebes ever happening.
So, in essence, they simply can't. Not right or wrong, no justification, they just can't.
That's why the argument is about as relevant as the price of tea in china.
No.15150
>>15143It's like you really think that's an insult!
No.15151
>>15149>That's not a justification, that's simply stating a fact of life, at least at the moment.I figured you'd say something like that. In that case, you've added nothing to the conversation because yes, children have less rights than adults.
But then we start talking about a specific right. And we ask.
Should they not have that same specific right? That's what we were doing when you came in and stated a fact of life. I assumed it was a mis-fired argument because you placed it like an argument. Had we all known you were simply stating a thing that was true, we wouldn't have had a giant argument about it.
No.15152
>>15139>Evidence: All of human history, every single second of itAll of which of course supports the idea that having sex with children is natural and healthy. Only in the last maybe 50 years have feminists made a big deal about it, and we're already starting to see the negative consequences of pedo-hysteria on both society at large and, especially the children. Greeks were bumming kids all day and the had the greatest society this side of the written word.
Still waiting for you to answer that question by the way.
No.15153
No.15154
>>15144Not without the help of stupid and malicious adults like yourself.
No.15155
>>15145I don't know if you understand what rights mean. "Rights" doesn't mean not picking on someone because they could beat you up. It's way to protect people precisely because they are smaller and weaker. That's like saying you shouldn't let innocent people who were wrongly convicted out of jail just because they couldn't physically bend the bars and walk out. The fact that children are smaller and (physically) weaker is the exact reason that they need us pedophiles to fight for their rights. Instead, you have chosen to look at the issue and say:
Shut up! That's the way it is because that's the way it's always gonna be because that's the way it is because that's the way it's always gonna be… and… and also… ummm…. SHUT UP!
>That's not an argument."ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
oh fucking jesus christ this is too beautiful"
Just stop posting and start learning.
No.15156
>>15149>Maybe it will lower to some degree in the futureALWAYS FOREVER ALWAYS FOREVER ALWAYS FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL YOU CANT PROVE THAT ITS NOT!!!!!!!!!@@!11
No.15157
>>15149>no justificationI noticed.
;)
No.15158
>>15151>you've added nothing to the conversationI've already gone in to why it's not a very worthwhile conversation.
A child can whine all he wants about the injustices of not getting the toy. The response will always be the same, "because I said so."
Is it fair? I don't know. Is it gonna change? Doubt it.
>thats a negative outlook!Yea I know, it bums me out too.
No.15159
>>15151>Should they not have that same specific right?I gave you an argument that you ostensibly agreed with.
Have you forgotten?
No.15160
>>15149>fact of lifeYou know what's a fact of life? Humans love sex. Babies masturbate. So if you wanna make the argument that a girl as old as 12 not only has no sexual interests, but should have no sexual rights to point of being jailed for snapchatting her own va-jay-jay, then it better be a pretty fucking extraordinary argument.
Instead you have offered no argument, declaring yourself the victor instead. I'm sure that even you could understand how this would be a problem.
No.15161
>>15156Wow someone sounds butthurt and desperate.
I said Children will never be equal citizens to adults. I still say that.
Children may gain more rights in the future, probably will. They'll still never be on completely equal footing with adults.
Cry your tears autist. Cry.
No.15162
>>15158>it's not a very worthwhile conversation.Then feel free to stop having it anytime, because you're the only one dragging it out.
No.15163
>>15159How is this a response?
No.15164
>>15160> So if you wanna make the argument that a girl as old as 12 not only has no sexual interests,but should have no sexual rights to point of being jailed for snapchatting her own va-jay-jay, then it better be a pretty fucking extraordinary argument.I've never even slightly implied that you laughably butthurt shithead.
I've made no arguments, apparently you needed to make some up for me.
No.15165
>>15163How about you read the thread?
Too many tears?
Maybe you should take a nap while Tick and I continue our conversation that you are not a part of.
No.15166
>>15161>I said Children will never be equal citizens to adults. I still say that.And you're still wrong, and you are still free to offer one of two things:
1) A single example or piece of evidence backing up your claim, rather than saying "haha u r wrong."
2) An example of one single thing that truly lasts forever.
Anything else you can feel free to keep to yourself.
No.15167
>>15164>I've made no argumentsThen why are you still posting?
No.15168
>>15165Bitch Tick walked into our conversation to point out, independently, that while he agrees with your basic premise, you aren't making any argument or in any way contributing to this thread.
>How about you read the thread? No.15169
>>15166>And you're still wrongNah.
Feel free to back that up in any way you choose.
>1) A single example or piece of evidence backing up your claim, rather than saying "haha u r wrong."All of human history.
>2) An example of one single thing that truly lasts forever.Children as defined by their societies will never ever ever ever have equal rights and exist as equal citizens to adults, for as long as humanity exists.
You aren't able to refute this, so you make the autistic sophist argument that wow nothing lasts forever!!!
No.15170
>>15167Why are you inventing arguments to get mad at?
No.15171
>>15169I'm having serious deja vu.
>>15170No arguments? Stop posting.
No.15172
>>15168My very first post in this thread was directed and quoted at Tick you fucking hilarious basketcase.
No.15173
>>15171Nah, keep crying.
Nice to see that you have nothing real to say in the face of statements that every other poster in this thread has gone on record as agreeing with, and the fact that in not one post has anyone came specifically to aide any of your insane arguments, and have in fact came to laugh at them.
That must be frustrating.
No.15174
>>15172>>15173No arguments? Shit posting.
No.15175
>>15152>All of which of course supports the idea that having sex with children is natural and healthy.Sure, never made an argument against it.
>Still waiting for you to answer that question by the way.Still waiting for you to answer what exactly greece has to do with children having the exact same equivalent rights as adults on every account.
No.15176
>>15174Must be frustrating.
No.15178
Two autists having a shit fight.
One of you is making a point that has no bearing on the subject at hand.
The other, assuming that the first must have a reason for posting his crap, is assuming a whole load of arguments for him.
Just stop, both of you.
No.15179
>>15175Oh my God, you dense bastard. In the ever expanding timeline of human evolution, the Greeks represent an extremely early bastion of human rights. not true full rights, because you're asking to produce an example of a Utopia from the past, an intellectual dishonesty which must form the crux of an inherently flawed argument. I'm saying that the Greeks did pretty fucking good in the area of child sexual rights, which is what we are talking about here, on this pedo board. They would take children in as apprentices and teach them about science, the senate, and sex. True, they didn't have full rights, but they had something that children today don't have. They had they right to make their own decisions, learn their own way, and practice sex with a knowledgeable, loving adult instead of another peer who has also been kept legally ignorant. And did they collapse? Well yes, eventually. Like I've said repeatedly, literally, and I don't use that word lightly, literally nothing lasts forever. But before they collapsed, they managed to become one of the most well respected and widely imitated societies of the ancient world. We still use everything from their architecture to their philosophies and ways of thinking to their very system of government. And they did this all some 3000 years before we were still finding hunter gatherer aboriginal tribes on jungle islands and they did it all while safely and lovingly rogering children up the bum for hundreds and hundreds of years. That's what Ancient Greece has to do with the actual discussion we are having. Nothing has anything to do with the imaginary utopia discussion you are having with yourself.
>>15176Must be shitposting.
No.15180
>>15178You may be right, but what else do I have to do today but inflate this thread's post count with this guy and draw in more curious people to give opinions. I don't care that you know he's wrong. I want him to know he's wrong. Shitposters are not automatically a lost cause. They just need to have the same thing explained to them over and over in different ways. I know it sucks to read, but that's why they invented hiding threads.
No.15182
>>15179uh oh spaghetti-o's. the real butthurtening has begun.
>not true full rightsthanks for playing
You weren't talking about sexual rights. I asked for an example of, and I quote:
>civilizations, in which of them did children, as described by the society they lived in, function exactly the same in their society as the adults?your response was: "ancient greece." Full stop.
A few questions and comments:
1. How does this relate to prepubescent girls? What is the literature on an adult man and a 6-9 year old girl in greece? marriage is one thing, but can you prove consecration?
Bear in mind, slaves were seen as property and not citizens, thus for this example slaves cannot be used.
2. what is it with boylovers and autism?
No.15183
>>15180>draw in more curious people to give opinionsOh they've given their opinions all right.
>care that you know he's wrong>The other, assuming that the first must have a reason for posting his crap, is assuming a whole load of arguments for him.kek
So upset that now you're no longer just inventing arguments to be mad at, you're pretending anyone is agreeing with you.
No.15190
>>15182>>civilizations, in which of them did children, as described by the society they lived in, function exactly the same in their society as the adults?Here's your answer. Nobody is discussing that but you. Somebody said give children some rights, and being self-loathingly offended or whatever, but knowing you were wrong and had no argument against that, decided to present, instead, a separate argument, more suited to your argumentative style of making baseless, irrelevant, and irrefutable claims, then acting like you won anytime anyone responded at all. So unless you want to do one of the two things presented here >15166 with the understanding that what we are talking about is not the completely irrelevant question of whether children and adults will ever be completely equal to adults in every way including physical stature, but the very real and relevant question, which is also the original point of this thread, of whether we can do something to change the way things are now. I suggested that we fight to give children back the legal right to choose their own sexual partner, and you fired back with the suggestion that children and adults would never physically be the same person, so just stop arguing about it because that's the way it is because that's the way it's always gonna be because that's the way it is, and I'm right and you're wrong. This is all well and good, and it's not as though I don't understand why you would choose to shitpost in such a manner, but I am still eagerly waiting for you to contribute even one relevant thing to this thread.
>what is it with boylovers and autismI'm not a boylover, you're just bigoted mouthbreathing underage /pol/, and if you don't stop running your mouth you're gonna suffocate. Just stop posting and take a deep breath.
And if you want an example of a society with widespread girllove, just look at every other society before 1970's America. You used to be able to buy "Lolita" Magizine's off newpaper stands. "Hey, Lloyd! Great day today huh? Let me get a pack of gum and copy of Ten Year Old Pussy. Here's a dime, keep the change." I mean for God's sakes, eleven year old girls used to be the standard greeting when discovering a new land by boat. Why do you think Colombus "liked" all those "Indians" in what is now the Caribbean so much? Sex with young girls used to just be a thing. Victorian Era England was known for it's well patronized child prostitution. It's was only in the late 70's and early 80's when the media got ahold of a few sociopaths to use for ratings and mixed up their terms that all this pedo hysteria started. You just don't know that because you were born into it. True, they've never had full rights, but that's because we've never been there to fight for them. So scroll all the way up to the top of the page, read the original post again, and if you have even one single relevant idea that could help us achieve the goals set forth in the OP's question, then please include it as a reply to OP's post. Do no reply to this post in either case, under any circumstances. Doing so inherently constitutes shitposting.
>>15183>So upset No.15191
>>15180If you're number 1: The thing is, you're not really explaining yourself. That's what the problem is. You're pointing out his errors, but not making your own point clear.
If you're number 2: The other guy's talking about irrelevant crap. Ignore him.
>>15182>2. what is it with boylovers and autism?>Sexually attracted to childish features: cuteness, innocence, delicacy, empathy, curiosity, lovingness &c &c &c>Somehow wind up thinking that boys show those more.Well, there's certainly something connected wrong there.
No.15192
>>15190>Do no reply to this post in either case, under any circumstances. Doing so inherently constitutes shitposting. Irresistible.
No.15193
>>15191>Ignore him.No.
>Well, there's certainly something connected wrong thereDon't be a bigot. You don't hate when when people say literally, and again, I don't use that word lightly, literally the same thing about you. Please, go on national TV and say, "It's ok, I'm a straight pedophile. At least I wanna fuck little girls up the ass, and not little boys. That would just be gross." Plus, BL's are usually nicer due to double discrimination. Straight pedophiles have turned into some hateful pricks lately.
No.15194
>>15192i no bb its ok i 4giv u
No.15196
>>15190>Here's your answer. Nobody is discussing that but you.That's funny I could have swore someone directly responded to me.
Oh wait that was you.
>Just stop posting and take a deep breath. >said while posting walls of text and clearly hyperventilatingkek
>Doing so inherently constitutes shitposting. I agree, responding to shitposting certainly qualifies as shitpostting.
So cute that you had to actually overtly declare your desire for the last word btw. Like seriously, that's adorable.
No.15197
>>15196>>That's funny I could have swore someone directly responded to me.>Oh wait that was you.I have a confession to make in the interest of ending this "argument". I was really high and didn't realize exactly what you were trying to claim, because it's so absurd, until Tick pointed it out. I now realize my mistake.
>last wordI'm here all day, baby. Still waiting for that one argument.
No.15198
>>15190>And if you want an example of a society with widespread girlloveNo, I wanted an example of society where children functioned at the exact same civic level as adults, across the board.
Never once made an argument against child love.
No.15200
>>15197>backtracking>claiming you were high to get out of shitposting>so absurd that everyone including tick explicitly agreed with me upon it but youthe kekkest
No.15201
>>15198It doesn't happen, that's why we are trying to change it you illiterate retard. Reread the OP's post and then contribute one single idea.
No.15202
>>15200>the kekkestOh yea baby, shitpost right on my chest.
No.15204
>>15201Good fuckin luck.
>>15202Yea man, win those antipedos over with self deprecating passive aggressiveness. you have more in common with the self haters than you thought.
No.15205
>>15204>Good fuckin luck.Thanks.
>you have more in common with the self haters than you thoughtI never said I didn't hate myself. Just that I thought the stated goals could best be accomplished by returning to children their rights to choose their own sexual partners. I still stand by that statement.
No.15206
>>15159No I did not. Protecting the kids is a good argument if you ask me. I'm not sure what I feel about it so I just accepted the argument and hoped to observe others as they chimed in on that…
I guess my thoughts on that is that yes, in our current society they need protection against that. First we must neutralize society's toxic view of sex, and once people see sex just as sex, we won't have to protect children from it any longer.
And also,
>>14934>Mobilise the lolis then, I guess.Pretty much this, I guess. Somehow. I do often feel, in a lot of arguments about children and sex, that we should probably ask the kids? I don't know how that would work, maybe in the future it could make sense, or maybe in the form of people who had positive experiences in the past speaking out. I'm not sure, I just find it weird that we're a bunch of adult people
(pedophiles, scientists, psychologists, parents, average people…) raving about it while the kids don't even know the discussion is happening.
No.15207
>>15206>I guess my thoughts on that is that yes, in our current society they need protection against that. First we must neutralize society's toxic view of sex, and once people see sex just as sex, we won't have to protect children from it any longer.I agree with this and would just like to make it clear that even though I'm pro-contact, I've never had sexual relations with a child.
>we should probably ask the kids? I don't know how that would workHere are some ideas. "Why won't you stop rubbing your pussy? Is it because it feels good?" "How come you grabbed the guitar teachers wiener? Is it because girls like wieners?" "Why would you run away from home instead of breaking up with your 28 year old boyfriend like we told you too? Is it because you want to date an adult?"
It's not as though the children aren't telling us anything. It's just that most adults either can't or won't listen.
No.15208
>>15206> I'm not sure what I feel about it so I just accepted the argumentNuh uh, you're not getting out of it that easy.
You love when I pump my hot opinions in your tight pink brainpussy, don't you Ticky-chan?
>that we should probably ask the kids?Anti's blow off the opinions of children faster than they blow off ours.
No.15209
>>15208>Anti's blow off the opinions of children faster than they blow off ours.So then this surely must be what we must change. Just follow the problem down to it's source and then start working.
Our basic problem: We have a vilified sexual orientation.
The real problem: People think our chosen sexual partners don't want sex ever.
The first step of the solution: Give kids their voice back.
No.15210
>>15209>The first step of the solution: Give kids their voice back.We did, it's called youtube. There are plenty of vids of teens going on about how they are ready for sex. What are always the top comments? "oh its so cute when they think they're adults."
No.15211
>>15200>>so absurd that everyone including tick explicitly agreed with me upon it but youThis, I think, shows the misunderstanding. Yes, I explicitly agreed that children will always have less rights than adults - but the absurdity lies in the fact that you were stating that as an argument. There will inherently be differences in power, and therefore rights, simply because they are different and new to the world. Nobody here would ever argue that babies straight out of the womb should be treated exactly the same as an adult. It would indeed be -
absurd - to argue that.
But again, the fact that they inherently have less rights does not say much about how many and which rights they should have.
>>15208>Nuh uh, you're not getting out of it that easy.:(
;)
>>15209In my opinion, the fundamental problem is the negative view on sex. We must rid the world of the notion that sex is
dirty and
naughty. Getting people to view sex as an entirely innocent and beautiful thing would make the rest of the problem EZ mode, IMHO.
No.15212
>>15209>Give kids their voice back.Give their voice back?
I believe a common phrase of previous times was "children must be seen but not heard."
If anything children have more of a voice now than ever before.
No.15213
>>15211>but the absurdity lies in the fact that you were stating that as an argumentI have this really strange feeling that I explained that I never used it as an argument, hold on let me go check.
Yep, I did, whew what a relief I thought I was going crazy for a second.
No.15214
>>15213But then what was the point? Yes it's a fact of life but what was the point?
No.15215
>>15210Good. That is a good first step. The second step is not to rabidly discourage your fellow pedophiles.
They're calling out for help and you wanna wait for the normies to listen? Why do you think God made pedophiles? We're the children's "inside man" in the adult world. They said it, now it's up to you to spread it.
>>15212>If anything children have more of a voice now than ever before.Good, let's continue that. You can immediately make up for the immense amount of shitposting in this thread by going and finding one of the videos mentioned in the above linked post and post it to your facebook. You don't even have to endorse it. Just say, "Hey, I found this and isn't that interesting. You can even find that video of the 18 year old girl defending pedophiles and hang anyone who wants to defend it out to dry while covering your own ass by saying some stupid shit like, "Can you believe this? Absolutely disgusting!" I've also seen a video on the tubes of a fairly articulate 12 year old boy calling for an end to the discrimination against pedophiles. Cat Goddess and Siberian Mouse both filed court orders saying that all the "molestation" was their idea, but no one listened to them because they were "just kids." But we're not. We're adults, goddamn it, even if only technically, and it's up to us to make them listen.
No.15216
>>15211>In my opinion, the fundamental problem is the negative view on sex. We must rid the world of the notion that sex is dirty and naughty. Getting people to view sex as an entirely innocent and beautiful thing would make the rest of the problem EZ mode, IMHO.Get rid of STDs if you want this.
No.15217
>>15211>This, I think, shows the misunderstandingThis is true. Again, I am high right now, but I think it served it's purpose into luring a more level head back in here to come talk to us.
No.15218
>>15214>what was the point?I'm listening as well. No hostility. That was getting us nowhere slow.
No.15219
>>15214Because people like tfw think it's something that they should be wasting their time on.
You think "dude everyone here already gets it"
Nope, no they don't.
No.15220
>>15216The secrecy and shame of sex contributes to the proliferation of STDs.
Teenagers afraid to go to the doctor to get tested because they don't want their parents finding out.
No.15221
>>15217How about you just go somewhere you can't post when you want to get high from now on.
No.15222
>>15211>In my opinion, the fundamental problem is the negative view on sex. We must rid the world of the notion that sex is dirty and naughty. Getting people to view sex as an entirely innocent and beautiful thing would make the rest of the problem EZ mode, IMHO.Then again, help others to empower children to remind the world just what childhood sexuality is, or at least can be like. Remind the world that rubbing your little clit on the corner of the the coffee table is a perfectly natural behavior that predates laws. It's not "dirty." Nobody "taught them that." They don't need to get a "talking to" where you impose your own shitty views about sex on them. You can tell them to go rub off on their bedpost, but goddamn, let a girl get off. It's ok. It's only gonna make her healthier in the end, emotionally, mentally, and sexually.
No.15223
>>15216>Get rid of STDs if you want this.I was born by C-Section and somehow got mouth herpes before the age of 6…
That's all I got to say about that.
No.15224
>>15220>Teenagers afraid to go to the doctor to get tested because they don't want their parents finding out.Teenagers afraid to buy condoms, and the Pope making everything worse in order to politically appease "conservative priests" whatever that means.
No.15225
>>15221Nah, it's the only time I actually give a shit enough to treat you to all these delicious counterpoints.
Plus, arguing with this guy is literally all I wanna do. BRF opens tomorrow and I'm 99 for the first time ever, but I can't even play because I'm loving this too much. Again, you can actually even hide individual posts.
No.15226
>>15193>Don't be a bigot.But shitposting's so fun…
>Straight pedophiles have turned into some hateful pricks lately.Turned into? That's been the case for both sets of pedos ever since the 'chans started recruiting neckbeards for the pedo ranks.
>>15206>Somehow. I do often feel, in a lot of arguments about children and sex, that we should probably ask the kids? I don't know how that would work, maybe in the future it could make sense, or maybe in the form of people who had positive experiences in the past speaking out.More importantly, making it more public when they do. Plenty have spoken out, just nobody has heard them. Getting kids involved in the argument needs to happen, but the antis are unwilling to listen to them.
>>15212You used to be considered an adult younger, so they had more of a voice for that reason. We've gone from "children must be seen but not heard" to "children must be heard but not listened to".
>>15210>>15215>>15222Well, it seems like we know what needs to get done. Now we just need to work out how best to do it.
No.15227
>>15222>rubbing your little clit on the corner of the the coffee table is a perfectly natural behavior that predates laws. It's not "dirty."Unhygienic, you don't know where that clit has been.
No.15228
>>15223Oral herpes isn't an STD. Genital herpes on the other hand, is.
No.15229
>>15226>"children must be heard but not listened to".I think that's worse honestly.
People didn't tune out children before because children did not speak "out of turn."
When they did, the adults at least listened.
Now it doesn't matter that children have a voice, no one is listening.
No.15232
>>15226>But shitposting's so fun…Why do you think I'm still here bb.
>Turned into? That's been the case for both sets of pedos ever since the 'chans started recruiting neckbeards for the pedo ranks.Right. Which was like, 4 years ago.
>the antis are unwilling to listen to them.That's where we come in, and is in fact the actual point of this thread. In fact, if someone is feeling extra helpful today, they could even go find one of the aforementioned videos and post it/them here.
>We've gone from "children must be seen but not heard" to "children must be heard but not listened to".A.K.A. Progress…
>Well, it seems like we know what needs to get done. Now we just need to work out how best to do it.Isn't this much more constructive? Don't you think this is much more productive?
>>15227>Unhygienic, you don't know where that clit has been.That's why I just gave it an extra long tongue bath. For your health.
No.15233
>>15227Rub it on the table with a layer of panties in between.
No.15235
>>15229>Now it doesn't matter that children have a voice, no one is listening.With the glaring exception, of course, of everyone in this thread.
I would be remiss if I didn't point that out.
No.15236
>>15233That's what I meant, but c'mon. Given a large enough sample size over a long enough timeline, some little girl is eventually going to get mad horned up, reach down, and pull her little Hello Kitty panties to the side. Probably the right side, as right-handedness is dominant.
No.15237
>>15228Yea, so… then…
What the fuck happened?
No.15238
>>15229>I think that's worse honestly.Agreed.
>>15232>Right. Which was like, 4 years ago.Nah, it must've been far longer than that. 4chin's been doing it for close on a decade now.
>That's where we come in, and is in fact the actual point of this thread. In fact, if someone is feeling extra helpful today, they could even go find one of the aforementioned videos and post it/them here.I'll get some in a bit and also put up a thread on /pact/ so that it doesn't sink so quickly.
>Isn't this much more constructive? Don't you think this is much more productive?Yep. I'm not the guy you were arguing with, man.
>That's why I just gave it an extra long tongue bath. For your health.:D
Won't even need to do the table, then.
>>15235True, but we're a small proportion. We must make more listen.
No.15239
>>15235yea because we count for so much right
the people who hear aren't the ones who need to hear it.
>A.K.A. Progress…like i said, i wouldnt call it progress.
No.15240
>>15228>Oral herpes isn't an STDCan you at least link the wiki article? That doesn't sound right.
No.15242
>>15238>4chin's been doing it for close on a decade now.I've been on GirlChat since about 2004, when I was 14.
>>15239>yea because we count for so much rightUs and them together man. There will be a significant synergy effect if we can get out the message that both involved parties want the same thing, by taking about children's voices and legal rights to consent. We have those two things, we just have to shatter the illusion that the children are on the antis side just because they are the majority and can shut them up more than we can get them to speak out. I'm not saying it's gonna be easy, just that it's right and worth doing.
>like i said, i wouldnt call it progress.Why? It's literally the progression of things. Children do have more of a voice than they used to, it's just taken the form of the right to accuse your molester and be listened to. Now we have to swing it back the other direction, but still forward, and give children the right to tell us when someone is not a molester, and be listened to.
No.15245
>129 replies
>1 image
>It's the old man from Pawn Stars
God, can someone post a fucking cutie? Just cause we're arguing doesn't mean we're not all together on a pedo board right now.
No.15246
>>15240http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_simplexHSV-1 can survive outside the blood or semen, while HSV-2 can't.
No.15251
>>15246Oh, well that's good. I guess I'm a pedophile just cause then.
>>15249Thank you, sincerely.
No.15254
No.15256
>>15254No, I've never seen this before. This is some 3rd even fucking crazier video. Holy shit.
No.15257
Shit, are you guys really having the same argument again?
This whole thread is nothing but another dumb war between the self-hating pedos and the regular pedos.
All OP said is that we should try to start slowly moving in the direction of getting our rights, primarily of course the right to fuck children. As for whether that's moral or not, I think we have agreed that's the age of consent is bullshit and children can tell what they do or don't want.
Here, why don't we all just post cuties and have fun, instead of arguing!
No.15259
>>15257"self hating pedos" is just troll bait by this point
No.15260
>>15256Third?
By first, I just meant the first posted in the thread.
No.15263
>>15259I agree. We've moved past that at this point. I mean, I'm the one arguing for children's sexual rights, and I'm definitely a self-hating pedo. I mean, I know what you mean, but I finally got him talking.
>>15260Ahh… I see what you mean. I meant the two mentioned in this thread.
Thank you. You're a hero. Let's get some videos together and then see a) what they say and b) what we can do about that. Thank you for taking the actual first step.
No.15264
>>15259By self hating pedos I mean people who post here and claim to be pedophiles but say they don't want to be accepted and agree with normies on most points like "it's always rape", "it scars for life"
This right here is my favorite loli BTW. She's not even a real model, i think, and I only have 2 pics of her (I know where to find more), but she's so fucking cute.
No.15265
>>15264Wow. She is like, ridiculously cute.
No.15267
>>15263Cool, now can other people find more?
I'll keep looking for stuff, but I don't know where to find a lot.
I'll go set up a thread on /pact/ and link it here, for the project's longevity.
No.15269
>>15264> people who post here and claim to be pedophiles but say they don't want to be accepted and agree with normies on most points like "it's always rape", "it scars for life"who?
both sides bitching agreed that sex isnt harmful, at least in itself.
No.15270
>>15267I'll try to find the one of the 18 year old, but my YouTube doesn't work right now and I never watched it, so I'll have to go off the memory of the thumbnail.
No.15271
No.15272
>>15270No luck yet, but I did find this. Not exactly what we're looking for but still looks interesting. Can't watch it of course.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqhie_fDz0U No.15276
>>15272lol, again not a kid, but I kinda wish I could watch this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTX3m6XzDFM No.15280
>>15276Hahaha, this one's not a video, but it is hilarious. I'm combing through the GC archives right now trying to find that video. It was everywhere when it first hit, including here. But, you know, the board wipes.
http://instagram.com/p/xAQFu0Mw1Q No.15281
>>15280And another pro-pedo video from an adult. According to what people are saying, it's possibly a transsexual. I can't even see the thumbnail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w02Mgwbv3tg No.15283
>>15281Ok, I finally turned it up by just googling the original phrase I tried.
http://egomoral.com/18-year-old-swedish-girl-defends-pedophilia/ No.15284
>>15283Ok, I can't find the twelve year old boy one, and I've had a friend here for like an hour, so I'm just gonna call it for now.
No.15578
>>15284Try this one man.Kids fucking charismatic as fuck,I dumped my cha for more con,sometimes regret.
http://egomoral.com/13-year-old-boy-exposes-pedophilia-steriotypes/ No.15597
>>15578You know what? I'm almost positive that that is the video. I guess I couldn't find it because I was off by one on his age. I just remember that he was British and didn't give a fuck.
Also, this is from the related videos afterwards. This guy is a bit fedorable, but he's also pretty charismatic, and he makes good points. Looks like he has quite a few videos too.
>that opening sequence>that closing screenlol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zec7oZUrGg8 No.15760
Nah, fuck that I ain't going to participate in some weird parade like the gays do.
That's plain stupid, there's some things that should not be accepted and pedophilia and homos are one of those things.
Yes, i'm a pedo, in fact i'm also a nepio and I don't agree with the fact that pedophilia of gayness should be accepted. Move on people, why the fuck do you care about what others think?
No.15761
>>15760Because freedom of speech is nice, that's why.
No.15768
>>15760>That's plain stupid, there's some things that should not be accepted and pedophilia and homos are one of those things.Any reasons to provide?
>Move on people, why the fuck do you care about what others think?>Why do you want to be able to do what you want to do?>Struggling this hard with basic logic. No.15769
>>15768One of the fundamental rules of life is you can't do what you want to do, so you have to settle for what you are allowed to do. You should have learned this lesson when you were three.
No.15771
>>15768For example, I care about the future of my race (white race).
And reality is that pedos and homos aren't contributing shit.
If you are a pedo and you can find an adult attractive ok, go on a procreate.
If not, you are just a fucking waste and the reason why my race is going extinct.
That would be my main reason.
Then there's the fact that I fucking hate homosexuals, they are disgusting and the things they do are unnatural.
Maybe it is more reasonable to be a straight pedo, but still I'm pretty sure it would be quite challenging mantaining an adult relationship with a little girl and procreate.
No.15773
>>15771So you are fine with homos/pedos that aren't white because they wouldn't be contributing to your gene pool anyway?
No.15782
>>15773Is not that I'm fine with it, but I don't care as much as long as they dont try to fuck with my people.
No.15785
>>15782"your" people would actively want to fuck with you if they knew about you
No.15796
No.15824
>>15769>Literally never try to improve society ever>>15771>If not, you are just a fucking waste and the reason why my race is going extinct.Even if you're only sleeping with those too young to procreate, you doing so doesn't result in fewer births.
>but still I'm pretty sure it would be quite challenging mantaining an adult relationship with a little girlNot really. They tend to be more affectionate and less prone to over-dramatic bullshit.
>and procreateYou fall in love with them and form a relationship with them when they're young, they're with you when they're old enough to have your kids.
Also completely ignoring group evolution. Pedos are better at caring for kids, so a few would be a good thing even if they didn't reproduce at all (which isn't the case anyway).
No.15830
>>15824>Literally never try to improve society everExactly. Society is fine the way it is, stop trying to mess with it.
No.15833
>>15830>le mastre torle DX No.15982
>>15597Yeah,saw that one too,good that he approaches the topic without acting like a full-on neckbeard.Too many of us focus entirely on logic without bothering to make our message appealing to its audience,and the message gets lost in douchebag behavior.
No.16377
Your pedo stuff and CP are weird; but whatever live and let live. I have no problem with you. Go ahead, organize.
No.16387
>>14858I was just thinking about this. We always talk big game, yet nothing ever gets done. Ever. Ever ever ever. Meanwhile, people lose everything over this shit every single day, even when they haven't done ANYTHING! Around the time you posted this, I became one of them. And now I have to gain it all back, or as much as I can.
That's just the case with fucking everything. Nobody has any real answers. Fuck this gay earth. Nobody will ever help me regain the love of my life. Nobody I've asked so far, anyway. Fuck everything!! In a worst case scenario, I have six fucking years to wait until I can be with my one true love! Fuck this gay fucking earth!!
No.16390
just to point out, masterchan was making photoshop images on "this is what a pedophile looks like" on their /b/
No.18454
>>14990Equal rights isn't a moral choice… It's a matter of efficiency. Modern society won't be able to afford to prosecute pedophiles and other victim-less crimes soon.
It's already starting in UK:
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/10/21/383015/uk-pedophiles-too-many-to-prosecute/If we don't stand for change now, the sex trade will change society for us. That's not idea.
No.18462
>>16387Cry some moar faggot.
>>18454>Modern society won't be able to afford to prosecute pedophilesHow is that new?
No.18479
>>18454>Britain will not charge pedophiles that possess child abuse images because of the high volume of people engaging in such activities.inb4 every pedo up and moves to Britain only to fall into a trap.
No.18481
>>18479It's like that everywhere. Police only go after the worst cases or a random guy as an example, but not everyone.
No.18693
>>14858I wonder how many adults out there have had sex as a child with another adult and don't think of it as a harmful experience.
You hear in the media all the time about the ones that come out to talk about their abuse to garner sympathy and further demonise paedophiles, but rarely from the other side.
No.18725
>>18693most go on to lead a normal life and don't need society hating them
No.18726
>>18725exactly
wtf would you personally gain by coming out with that?
you put the adult at huge risk, and you put yourself at risk of being called a pedo sympathizer or pedo yourself
No.18731
>>18726>wtf would you personally gain by coming out with that?Write a memoir? Nobody is interested in some normal woman, but scandalous sex sells big and nothing is more scandalous than child sex.
No.18763
>>18725Yeah, it's sad how much a dark figure it is.
They are pretty much the only ones with the testimonies to potentially change worldviews. The best we have in that absence are scholarly articles on the subject which are quite often being hushed and tabooed away from as well.
No.19343
They'd kill us, or rape us in mild to harsh forms by blackballing us out of jobs and lie to people in our families and we'd be exiled to live with our fantasies. It's happened to me, and honestly, it is a very lonely world out there. Fortunately, I was blessed with a very active mind, and I keep busy doing other things I love, but society doesn't want to hear us. Christ, they don't talk about things like life and death, how in the world can we expect them to hear us?
No.19355
>>19343That's how it was for gay people for a long time, but things can change.
We only need to emulate the gay rights movement and other societal attitude shifts. We might not see the day when adult & child relationships are accepted in law or society and I know there are plenty among us who want that to happen tomorrow, but the fact is that it won't. These things take a lot of time and effort, but if we genuinely want it to happen, we can make society accept us for who we are.
We are lucky, we have the internet. There's no reason why we can't start campaign groups in our respective countries and collaborate and organise internationally online. This movement is possible but there are too many people within our community who are one extreme or the other; a lot of people either want to be allowed to fuck children tomorrow or they want us to remain oppressed and hated by society. We have to be realistic and admit that we won't get the UN to give us a human right to have sex with children any time soon because we can’t have those kind of massive cultural changes within a small period of time. We can force society to accept us, though, and eventually when we’ve done that later movements will be able to move beyond that. We need to focus for now on the achievable, not what any of us see as the end goal. After we have made society accept that hating pedo/hebephiles is wrong and hypocritical, we can have a wider discussion about what rights we should have.
It will take a radical group at first, then later when more people start to admit they are pedophiles and people start to realise that it's not just lunatic rapists who are attracted to children, we will see society's opinion start to change.
It's easy. I don't know why it's even an argument; we deserve a right to be who we are and be open about it and if you think that how society perceives us now can never be changed you're wrong. There are plenty of examples of big attitude shifts within society. I didn’t choose who I was attracted to and I won’t let lazy and the self-hating pedophiles anon talked about above stop decent people who happen to be attracted to children stop us from getting the rights we deserve, so stop being a bunch of complacent morons and admit we need a liberation movement.
No.19357
We need philosophy
No.23816
No.28900
>>19357
philosophy you say?
>>>3990
No.29001
>>14858
That's the spirit! What someone needs to do is call out the oppressors, the white people, ours and everyone's oppressor. We need less white people in order to be free.
No.29247
>>29001
hmmmmm i wonder who posted this
No.29248
Pedophilia is vilified through sensationalist media, average people (read: retards) cant get enough of the drama of the oh so innocent and defenseless children being married to the evil white patriarchal monster
just a couple examples from over a century ago:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Maiden_Tribute_of_Modern_Babylon
author: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Thomas_Stead
"Style: Sensationalist"
protip: this book alone pushed the aoc from 7 to 12 back in the 1900s, and it was a sensationalist piece of media, equivalent to The Sun today. just a bunch of exaggerations and vilification for the sake of selling.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Bride
author http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0720886/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm
"Revier seemed to have preferred notoriety to fame, tending to opt for sensationalism (frequently violating the prevailing Hays Code) rather than achieving any measure of technical expertise or eliciting particularly good performances from his actors."
the movie child bride was based around the marriage of eunice johns, you've all seen that picture by now, google the name if you haven't.
No.29250
>>29248
You actually sounds retarded.
Child brides??? Really? You know when child brides exist it is because females have no rights and no ability to live on their own.
Based on your line of thinking women/girls would have to lose their rights to make you happy. Good licking taking their rights away.
No.29251
>>29247
News are consider white for the most part.
No.29254
>>29250
they shouldn't have ever gained male rights in the first place.
western civilization is collapsing because men were conformist enough to give women rights, this opened the floodgates for all kinds of racemixing and leftists shit, bitches vote leftist garbage 99% of the time and they dont even know what they're voting, they vote on the principle that "im a womyn i must be nice to everyone and th-they'll surely be nice back to me right?", this is why islam is growing in europe and nordic countries.
hilariously enough once these stupid bitches vote for the death of their own culture, the invading culture rapes, beats, and impregnates them whether they like it or not
No.29263
>>29254
Yeah you sound incredibly weak and whiny. You probably are a guy small in stature, squeaky voice, ugly face, slim but frumpy bulid, bullied by girls as a child, never been laid, scared if adults in general, lonely, loser, can't get a woman unless you paid her, broke or near broke….
What you want will never happen. Men like you will hopefully die out. Modern civilization has no need for guys like you.
No.29392
>>15578
The owner of this is a major fag.
No.29411
>>29399
No I'm only looking out for me .
No.29623
>>29411
Well, that's part of the problem, now isn't it? No one's ever going to get help and nothing is ever going to improve if we're only looking out for ourselves. And think—how has "only looking out for ourselves" worked for us in the past?
Whatever. There are plenty of members of the MAP community that aren't as selfish as you. I hope you change your views one day. But if you don't, best of luck to ya.
I haven't been on /younglove/ for a while. But for anyone that still checks here and doesn't know yet, there's a podcast for Minor Attracted People that you can find here.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRxJlAvET9KvHfFb__h6Esw
if you enjoy it at all, have any inclination to help, or want to let us know how you feel about it you can post in the the thread on /phile/ or the one on /hebe/. you can also email me if you're interested in helping somehow.
But at the very least, if you do listen, I encourage you not to just listen and lurk. We really need feedback and we'd love to get a little more of a dialogue and back and forth with the audience.
There's also a couple of threads on /phile/ that address some of the things you guys are addressing here. I'm not trying to shill I just know that's where conversations are being held. /hebe/ is pretty shit for conversation tbh.
Anyway, there's a philosophy thread as well as a thread where people are compliling articles and studies surrounding pedophilia.
No.29649
>>29623
>>29623
Stfu you whiny pathetic cunt. You are just as selfish as me. Your face isn't shown and you aren't connecting this with your real name. Bet your bitch ass nigger cunt won't even say what city you live in. You are just as pathetic as I am but worse because you are thinking you are better. Keep making your shitty as shit and hiding like the fucking failed abortion coward you are. Die.
No.29651
>>29649
>You are just as selfish as me.
Selflessness doesn't exist.
No.29661
>>29651
Says the retarded baby rapist. It actually does. You are selfish (duh baby rapist) so you think by claiming everyone is then it makes it okay. I'm sure you think everyone is worthless, dumb, ugly, and cowardly so you don't feel so bad.
Die retarded ass die.
No.29663
>>29649
First off, you're on an anonymous board so you can't say anything about "not using my real name". I'm putting myself out there along with other MAPS that want change. I see nothing wrong with that. I never said I was better than anyone. I just think part of what brings our community down is the people that don't care at all and don't care if anything changes and become complacent. Like, I said, best of luck to you, but I kinda feel like taking that back because you're being an unnecessary dick to me for absolutely no reason. We're all on the same side right? So why hate? If you don't like what we do, that's cool. You don't have to watch it. I was just trying to spread it around because I know some people do care. I figured it was relevant to post in this thread.
>>29661
Wait…so are you a MAP or not? Because I really can't tell. You just seem like a very angry person from /cow/ that stumbled on /younglove/ lol
No.29664
>>29649
Why should he? Why do you think he needs to publicly show his face and dox himself?
That doesn't make him selfish it just means he's not insane.
You can still do stuff for the community without being a fucking idiot that gives out all of his personal details.
I don't fault you for looking out for yourself but there's no need to be such a dick about it someone else.
No.29667
We won't be able to mobilize a 'movement' before we have a chance. Start by promoting a healthy and open view on sex. Don't be afraid to talk about sex, go against the taboo on sex and nudity, don't be afraid to answer kids' questions. Show people that sex isn't something to be hidden away and to be embarrassed of. That is the first step. It is unrelated to us and would benefit everyone regardless of age. That cause has a chance, and it would lead to a world where our feelings could much more openly be discussed.
No.29677
>>29663
Yes I'm on an anonymous board but im not claiming to be some hero for maps but yet remain so well hidden.
You aren't doing shit but hiding and talking shit You must be retarded to think a movement can be effective while remaining hidden like a fucking coward. It proves that: you have selfish intentions, you don't even take it serious yourself and you are dense as fuck.
Why would i spread around the sissy work of a coward? I bet you won't post this shit with your real name so why should i?
I am a selfish, scared MAP not pretending to be some dense fucking savior to MAPs.
>>29664
Being public is the only way to gain rights idiot. Fag allies post shit om their personal social media (for more than a decade), fags and allies proudly and publicly support fag rights….look they get acceptance and change laws???? Same with racial minorities and women. To hard of logic for you fuck faces to follow.
You can't do shit for the community anonymous!!!! Actually proves to the bigots that we are bad. Guess who else does shit in private to get what they want????? Criminals. People aren't going to be convinced by random anonymous people online that belong to a niche site. I've seen most forums, social network, comment section in articles/blogs that lock/delete/ban those who even say pedophiles aren't rapist. Not to mention pro child sex.
Yeah good work being anonymous and sharing to a niche audience of 10 people. Congrats for not being selfish, cowardly and hiding like me.
Also quit being so fucking sensitive you are a "civil rights leader" get tough asshole. If you knew anything about a civil rights leader you would see they dealt with so much more (including death) but you bitch about 1 meanie. Weak faggot.
No.29685
>>29677
You do know we aren't the same as homosexuals right? You do realize that coming out with our names is dangerous right?
I never said I was a savior of MAPs or anything. I don't think that. That'd be narcissistic as hell. I'm doing what I feel is right along with some other MAPs I've come to know. We're just doing our thing. We're just doing what we can and I really don't see how showing our faces will help us.
>you have selfish intentions, you don't even take it serious yourself and you are dense as fuck.
well, i don't know where you got that idea. you're just blindly insulting me at this point.
like i said, you don't have to like what we're doing. not everyone's going to like it and im perfectly fine with that. we're far from perfect and I mean…we've only put out one episode so it's kinda hard to judge just on that..personally, i'd give us another shot. you might find a few seconds to not be grating on your ears lol
but being mean for no reason just isn't warranted.
i assumed we were all on the same side…but maybe i was wrong about that.
whatever.
>pic related
>it's you
No.29690
>>Unite the open and closet pedos all over the world, spread this board's everywhere you know, gather people, become known to the media.
MAPS are literally the biggest fucking cowards and retarded group ever. We probably will just end up become extinct like other inferior creatures.
No.29697
>>29663
He's the guy who gets a sexual thrill out of telling people attracted to minors to kill themselves. He always speaks as if he's part of the collective in order to trick fanatics into taking his insults seriously.
But he's like the person who kicks down the club house door and demands a seat; not exactly member material.
No.29705
She very sweet and nice. Here is a place for rind moar what we desire y46n5mcakffjqpzw.onion
Try out and see if you like, e-mail not necessary just fill gap.
I have take many candid photo, someday I post for you enjoy
No.29711
>>29690
>like other inferior creatures.
That's not true at all. Plus many religions are on our side. Just use religious people.
No.29718
We should fight for rights under the banner of leftism and progressiveness. That way we create a win-win situation. We can win by either being accepted or we can win by making leftism look bad and destroying the faggots who threw us under the bus.
No.29779
>>29718
>>29718
Wow a retard. Gays are quite protected so that is dumb to even think we could go at them. Next everyone hates us including progressives and liberals. Plus must of us are "bigots". I hate fags, niggers, spics, and cunts. Fuck liberals.
No.29994
No.29996
>>29779
Most of the people on chans, yeah, maybe. Im willing to bet that a majority of the pedophiles who arent on here have no racial or religious prejudice though
Id be willing to go to a rally or march. Granted, Id probably want to wear a mask or something
No.30002
let's start by creating a new name for ourselves instead of pedophiles
suggestions?
No.30004
>>30002
Lolicons.
MAPs.
Girl lovers/Boy Lovers.
Paedosexuals.
No.30008
We need to make entertainment or art thats enjoyable but is pro-pedophilic that isn't anime.
Nothing that directly argues for pedophilia but just something that people would enjoy that just happens to have pro-pedo points in it that isn't super in your face about it.
Since every time someone hears about pedophiles its about a criminal and with anime people just go in denial and call it lolicon.
No.30013
any name you popularize will eventually have normies give the same negative connotation, and things like "boy/girl young lover" sound creepy anyways. there is nothing wrong with pedophile, just don't worry about it.
No.30015
>>30008
Yeah, i agree with that. I wish some of you guys could be a movie director or comic artist to do that. Pedophilia is a relatively unexplored subject
No.30017
>>30002
>>30013
Far more important than a name is a new identity. Pedo, hebe, MAP, lgl, they all mean rapist to the average moron anti whose mind will never be changed. I do like the idea of a movie or comic, anything to distinguish between the very small # of dangerous predators out there and the vast majority of guys who just really need a hug.
Best of all would be if a dozen MAJOR celebrities came out as pedos and then everyone would have to accept them the same way gays were, but how likely is this really?
No.30024
>>30017
the thing about that is people HATE blatant propaganda, and you're discussing making what would obviously be blatant propaganda. it's only going to make 99% of people even more pissed. "i cant believe this disgusting pedo agenda bullshit reeeeeee"
people also believe pedophiles are inherently deceptive and manipulative, so what could you even say that they cant immediately turn around with "yea we'll you're lying and will say anything to get people to get to fuck kids."
No.30033
>>30017
I think that you have a problem when calling the public stupid. Don't do that, because they are not stupid. Even most rabid antis aren't really stupid individually. That leads to arrogance: the sort of arrogance that makes you think that a new name means a new identity. Retards didn't become more than retards when people started calling them mentally disabled. Swapping euphemisms every once in a while is done for reasons other than identity. We, as pedophiles, are pedophiles no matter what we are labeled. A fresh coat of paint and new brand name won't make us any less poisonous to the public.
No.30037
>>30024
The most prevalent propaganda is being pushed by antis, and it's blowing up in their faces. From 1 in 4 females being raped on campus to the common misconception of all pedos as Captain Howdy kidnapper/torturer/killers, they will no doubt drown in their own bullshit. Be patient and enjoy the show.
>>30033
When I refer to morons I don't mean the public, only those with power and/or influence who make the laws. Most people I know are starting to wake up to how badly we've been screwed by the same thieves and liars they voted for, and like us they're unsure how to proceed.
I like Jim Norton's recent joke about learning a pedo moved to his neighborhood. "Good. I don't have kids, what do I care? At least I know he won't be hitting on my wife!" This attitude is very slowly and quietly becoming the new norm, not total acceptance but some degree of tolerance which is a HUGE step in the right direction.
No.30038
>>30015
It doesn't need to be that big, maybe we could make something on youtube and have it spread around via chans and chan related things.
I know some of us are pretty paranoid like me, but there are already a number of blogs and videos and things supporting pro-contact, and I'm sure there are those among us who wouldn't mind posting on clearnet sites.
>>30017
>Best of all would be if a dozen MAJOR celebrities came out as pedos and then everyone would have to accept them the same way gays were, but how likely is this really?
Did gays actually have a bunch of super famous people come out as gay and thats how they won ?
>>30024
>the thing about that is people HATE blatant propaganda
All the more reason we need to quit arguing and instead focus on attack peoples emotions and defenses subversively .. though entertainment.
No.30048
>>30038
> and it's blowing up in their faces
citations? because as far as im aware the majority still consider pedos disgusting subhuman child raping monsters
No.30051
>>30048
I'm going to assume you're referring to when I mentioned blogs and videos on normal websites like youtube etc? I never said they were extremely well received and supported by normal people… but that they got to exist in a non-secret way and the people that run them aren't effected by it in their real lives.
citations I guess:
https://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/
or
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKjntJ7dHxUY7B61QEsB1Dw.
If anyone remembers the blogspot that talked about the age of consent being lowered to eight because the mentally handicap have sex while having lower iqs than eight year olds, please share. I don't remember what it was called
More importantly the idea isn't to do what these guys and other people have already done, being pro-contact outside of the deepweb, but to make something that has those kinds of themes hidden within something non-pedophiles would look at.
No.30057
>>30051
I asked for citations on how anti-pedo propaganda is blowing up in normies faces, and you're giving me a link to a pedo blogger/youtuber… I don't think you understood me.
The fact that people aren't taking down some pedos blog does not mean in any way that they're supporting us any more, it just means they respect freedom of speech. none of that shows that anti-pedo propaganda is blowing up in their faces at all.
>the people that run them aren't effected by it in their real lives.
probably because his real life is completely separated from his blog? show some people in his real life his blog and see what happens to him.
No.30059
I know the celebrity coming out idea isn't likely but what if we got together all the geniuses that are pedos and made a video. Like "I'm not a doctor." "I'm not a lawyer" "I'm not a musician" "Because we are pedophiles" (according to society they are considered worthless)
No.30062
>>30059
except that's retarded because everyone already know about the pedos in high places who gut busted/outed like rolf harris or whoever. there's also the tons of conspiracies about pedowood or pedos in power in government or wherever else.
No.30095
maybe things can work out better if we fight for hebephilia and seek for the separation beetwen hebes and pedos
don't get me wrong, my AoA is 4-14
but c'mon dudes, we have to be gradualists if we want to achieve anything
when people get over the tabu of older people having sex with minors, then we can fight more openly for pedophilia and pedos rights or whatever
No.30105
>>30059
Not a bad idea, but how would we find them?
No.30164
>>30105
ask for them. I mean why wouldn't people anonymously say what they do for a living? It could progress from there. I'll say that I'm definitely one of those who are both intelligent and a pedo.
>>30062
but you have a point. Pedos have always been in high places hence the priest pedophile trope.
In conclusion nvm. But if you people like the idea go ahead.