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 No.15819

Considering the moral and practical challenges to young love, have any of you ever tried or thought about lucid dreaming?

They say that when you are fully lucid, it is indistinguishable from reality.

You can do anything you want, conjure anything you want.

dream-orgasms are reportedly extremely sensory and amazing

So what's keeping you from going to bed and conjuring up something like pic related? Or have you? (stories if you have).

 No.15820

Lucid dreaming evangelints need to get a grip. They`re as bad as Little/Babygirl evangelints.

Fuck both. I`ve fucked a real 14yo (legal here), have done lucid dreaming and have done the Babygirl scene at fetlife for a few months, and guess what, they`re shit compared to the actual girl.

They`re nothing like the desperate envagelists want you to believe. Being aware you`re dreaming and in control of reality removes any excitement of it. I wish I had never learned luucid dreaming, because I now realize I`m dreaming every time something really great happens in a dream because of the switch system of noticing you`re dreaming. Dreams were fucking destroyed completely for me because of that trash.

 No.15822

>>15820
Hmm, I guess it's about perspective. I would think that there would be a liberating feeling of being able to do anything you want: fly, fight off hordes of monsters, drop yourself in an island hot spring with a hundred naked lolis.. .the world's best VR system.

 No.15823

>>15820
Thanks for making sure everybody knows you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

Lucid dreaming is the most advanced VR system we can use today. If your dreams are boring it's just your fault.

You can do anything - ANYTHING - where the only limits are your own imagination or lack of training.

Also lucid dreams feel way more real than 'real life'. Dream orgasms always feel like my first orgasm ever.

 No.15825

>>15822
>>15823

VR doesn't make something exciting. With little girls, it's the fact that they are a person with their own mind and feeling who you care about that's most important. With games, it's the challenge. With complete power over something completely fake…

You've gotta have pretty low standards to enjoy something like that much. At its best, it gives you brute sensuality. Emotional content = nil.

 No.15826

>>15825
So I guess you don't enjoy fapping in general.

 No.15828

>>15825
I get what you're saying, anon, but not everybody seeks such an emotional reward in fantasy. Might as well not even read books, watch movies, play video games if they don't present the ability to connect emotionally with someone, right?

 No.15829

>>15819
>Considering the moral and practical challenges to young love, have any of you ever tried or thought about lucid dreaming?
I prefer non-lucid dreams because you believe they are real at the time you are dreaming. Lucid dreams just seem like glorified daydreams and not worth the hassle.

 No.15835

>>15825
I don't fully agree with this, but I agree with the premise. Fuck VR. Real little girls only please.

 No.15850

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I am sorry my picture apparently broke the rules. My bad.

Meanwhile, more lucid talk. Anybody actually succeed, or at least have loli-themed dreams? I wanna hear.

 No.15851

>>15826
It certainly isn't indistinguishable from real sex in the pleasure derived.

>>15828
You can get more back from such things because you aren't in complete control over them. In a book, what keeps you reading is a desire for certain good/bad things to happen to the characters, that you're not in control of. In games, it's the difficulty of trying to exert that control.

 No.15857

>>15851
Well also keep in mind that I simplify things when I say you can conjure up anything you want. Because in actuality, dream control is a separate skill that also requires a lot of patience to learn. One can apparently lucid without being able to control what happens in your dreams.

Now imagine that: an infinite dreamworld that you can explore at will, and with who-knows-what awaiting you. And if your subconscious is gracious enough to provide lolis for that dreamscape, then they might as well have minds of their own.

Tell me that doesn't sound totally fucking awesome. Sounds to me like you just have a really deep want for an emotional connection to somebody, something that dreams won't be able to fulfill.

 No.15873

Sorry, but does anyone here have a good recipe how to have a lucid dream? I have so far tried several variations of the so-called WILD technique, but whenever my body has just passed the threshold between being awake and sleeping, my mind (which, when using this technique, has to stay awake) realizes that and wakes me up. Did not try MILD so far, sounds a lot more difficult (at least needs more preparations).

 No.15888

>>15873
Start a dream journal if you don't already have one. Write down your dreams AS SOON AS YOU WAKE UP. Read your notes when awake and try to reconstruct the dream in every detail. This will train you to remember more dreams as well as getting more clarity and stability out of the dream itself.
A neat side effect is that you start paying more attention to details in your waking life and your dreams.

>my mind realizes that and wakes me up

Your mind is very excited that you got this far and this excitement wakes you up.
All you can do is try again. With every achieved lucid dream the excitement will get less and less and your dream stability goes up.

>a good recipe

>set alarm for +5 hours
>go to sleep
>wake up
>sit in the dark for a few minutes, even drink something
>DON'T use your phone or computer
>lay down again and don't move any muscle to enter sleep paralysis
>ignore the horrific clowns, ghosts and voices around your bed at this stage
>imagine the dream you want to have or think about a person
>????????
>profit

 No.15889

>>15857
Eh, you can into servitors without lucid dreaming, but I accept your point.

 No.15891

>>15889
Servitors with emotions? Better create a tulpa for yourself.

 No.16044

>>15873
>>15888

It is also like my mind is trying to prevent me from lucid dreaming. Even when I am fast asleep and suddenly realize I am dreaming, the instant I realize it my mind just wakes me up before I can think anything.

 No.16055

>>15819
> it is indistinguishable from reality.
One usually does not realize that he/she is dreaming.
Literal suspension of disbelieve.

 No.16069

>>16055
Actually, a lucid dream is by definition one where you are aware that you are dreaming.

Once you are aware, you often gain the ability to control what happens in the dream

 No.16077

>>16069
But not always.

 No.16091

>>16077
That's because becoming lucid and controlling dreams are different arts one needs to master.

 No.18014

Yep you become aware you are dreaming. The trick is then to just keep yourself in the dream and not try to wake up. Importantly, keep your eyes closed and thoughts on what you are dreaming about. Being aware you are dreaming usually means you can control what YOU do in the dream, avoid trying to control what external things happen in the dream. That's the quickest way to break the believability link the brain has with the dream. Instead try to guide the direction of the dream through your interactions and expectations from those interactions with the dream world. If your expectations are believable then it is less likely to break you out of the dream.
Also keeping calm is somewhat required as well since excitement can be a bit tricky as well. High alertness tends to work against you. Dreaming of falling is a prime example of this.

 No.18015

>>18014
One trick to staying in the dream if you feel like you are losing it is to rub your hands. The idea is that it forces your brain to focus on simulating and feeling the sensations associated with rubbing your hands together. The heat, the friction, the sound and the feeling of your palms.

 No.18064

>>18015
This makes me remember one of the first times I tried lucid dreaming. After a while into the dream I felt the lucidness fading away and I only faintly remembered I had to do something with my hands to counter this, but I couldn't remember what.
…So I started clapping as hard as I could. Needless to say this quickly made me wake up instead.

On topic: I actually prefer normal dreaming over lucid dreaming when it comes to this. Since I'm into lolidom, it doesn't make any sense that I'd be controlling the lolis, as would be the case in a lucid dream. I prefer them having control over me.
Luckily my normal dreams often tend to be full of lolis and are awesome.

 No.18290

>>18064
Well, as was established, lucid dreaming and dream control are two different things. You can lucid without having control of the elements of your dream, so I think that would probably work out for you: lucidly interact with lolis with an apparent mind of their own.

 No.20966

The problem with lucid dreaming is often there is little to no detail in the face nor the genitals.

Endless Architecture, sure, Brain can do that.

Endless crowds of non descripts. Yep.

A face up close…eehhh

Also NO feeling.


 No.20976

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>>20966

Oh hey, I was just thinking about getting another lucid dreaming thread started somewhere.

Anyway, I never considered that. That kind of sucks. I would think familiar faces would at least be seen in detail. I shall have to poke around some lucid dreaming communities and get some input on this.

As for feeling, I can certainly vouch against what you're saying there. I've had extremely vivid sensory dreams, including one where I was yanked from underwater so fast that my nostrils burned.

I once had a dream that I was cavorting around with three jailbait girls who quickly stripped out of what few garments they were wearing and danced around nude with me. I was naked too and got behind one of them, and my erection pressed against her and it was an extremely tantalizing and vivid feeling.

I've also heard that dream orgasms are incredible.


 No.20980

>>20976

If you're sleeping on your stomach you'll feel your erection etc. Or if it is pressed up against something else IRL. Same goes if your foot is rubbing against your other foot: if the dream calls for it your mind will let that real sesory perception through and use it in a dream.

Other than that the only sensory feelings I've ever gotten are by touching the face.

The faces of realitives and people you've seen are 1:1 in a dream, but the faces of summoned people "I want a little girl now", nope. If the dream created it, you'll get some details, if you are trying to "load" it, no.

It's hard to keep from waking up too once you realise :(. Got to keep touching the face.

Touching others == no sensory perception.

I think the face works because your face is on the pillow.


 No.21019

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The problem with lucid dreaming is that it only lasts so long. I achieved it but I spent my entire days just wanting to go to sleep. It was very depressing because dreams felt 10 times better than reality. But they only lasted like 5 minutes. I had to stop because I almost lost my job by spending all day on bed.

However, later I got an strange hypothesis. Dreams never stop. We are constantly dreaming 24/7.

Sometimes while awake, doing my everyday activities I would blink and rub my eyes, and there I would see images from my dreams. We all have recurring dream imagery, you know, like your own dream city, dream problems, dream friends. So I started to realize that maybe dreams where happening all the time, there might be a way to have lucid dreams while awake.

After researching a lot I found a way to tap into dreams while being awake. I can just close my eyes and experience vivid dream imagery at any time of the day. The problem is that I cannot control these "awake dreams". I can only lucid dream while I'm asleep. It's driving me nuts trying to come up with a method to do it.


 No.21025

I've have several dreams in my life that I was aware and in control. I remember vivid details of sex with hot lolis. I've never studied lucid dreaming, I've always been I interested but I smoke weed and that shit kills dreams. I only dream when I'm out lol


 No.21032

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>>20980

Sorry, I went to bed shortly after posting. But no, I don't sleep on my stomach. Only on my back or side. So the sensations I felt were purely mental. Unless I slept in my jeans or something, can't remember.

As for 1:1 on relative's and friends faces, I'm sure that would bode well for cunnysseurs who are fantasizing about girls in their lives. For me, I've been trying to subliminate myself with imagery of a particular child model who was captivated my imagination and fueled a lot of writing. She's practically a character in my head. I can't wait to eventually meet her in a lucid dream.

>>21019

That sound a little obsessive, anon. Perhaps put it into perspective? I've hard of people wrestling with this same concept until they settle on a viewpoint of their lucid dreams merely accentuating their waking lives, rather than serving as a means of escapism that they can only indulge in occasionally. Dreaming even as you are awake sound intriguing, though.


 No.21796

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OP back with an update. I haven't lucid dreamed about lolis yet, but I've had my most explicit dream containing lolis. What was something I've been waiting for proved to be disappointing, however. Care to read?

Instead of the erotic fantasyland I've been imagining, a tropical island, perhaps, where lolis run around naked, the dream involved me watching a video. In it, a group of men commanded a group of little girls to strip, and as I skipped through the video in distaste, glimpsed very nasty things, interspersed with things I've been wanting to experience in a dream (like giving a little girl a facial), but the scene was nasty and rapey, and with the exception of one girl who momentarily laughed as cum collected on her cheeks, the girls were unwilling participants.

All the anticipation of a hot and erotic pedo dream, and instead I get shady dream-CP. I feel like I've just got done reading Lolita, where the first half entices you with Humbert's erotic fantasy, and the second half throws a cold bucket of water on your face and shows you what a sad situation it is. Bummer.

Now to go give my subconscious corrective training. Good luck, dreamers.


 No.21797

>>21796

>mfw i know there is a pic where 3 of the girls lift their shirts and they are not wearing panties but the only time i saw it, it was a thumbnail

; ;


 No.21798

>>21797

I was banned on 4chan for posting what he posted because I didn't know about that one and thought it was just a cute image.


 No.21799

>>21798

It is a cute image though

Just gets lewder the more photos that Daddy took


 No.21809

>>21799

It's fairly hard to see there's a connection between that image and CP. I even had Google search for similar images (via the image search function where you can upload a picture) but couldn't find any. As an average citizen, it should be legitimate for me to assume there isn't any CP version of it.


 No.21810

>>21809

Did you consider the possibility that Google is aware that that image is related to CP and intentionally didn't show you any results because they assumed you were trying to look for related CP with that image?


 No.21812

>>21810

Can an average citizen expected to be aware of that possibility? And if he can, can he also be expected to look more deeply into the dark net to confirm it wasn't just Google's filter but there isn't really a CP version?


 No.21815

>>21797

>>21798

Huh, I didn't even realize it was from a lewd set. I thought it was innocent. I feel dirty posting it.


 No.21832

>>21812

>Can an average citizen be expected to be aware of that possibility?

Yes. When you're searching a picture of 4 girls who obviously just got out of the mattress behind them an still have their night clothes on, the average citizen is going to be questioning the motivation of the photographer. It could just be a photo for the family album, but it could just as easily be CP, and the average citizen will likely have that connection cross their mind.

>And if he can, can he also be expected to look more deeply into the dark net to confirm it wasn't just Google's filter but there isn't really a CP version?

No. The average citizen isn't going to have the dedication to search that deep. Only someone actively looking for CP would take it that far. When Google search turns up nothing, the average citizen is going to flag that image as questionable in their mind, and likely wouldn't be surprised if someone told them it was CP-related later on.


 No.21859

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OP back again, hoping to get the thread back on track by bringing something else up that's been on my mind: binaural beats.

I've been dabbling in them for lucid dreaming, but I know there are some beats/idoses that are erotic. Might there be some catered, or might someone create some beats that would cater, to our likes?

(hoping this image is not part of a lewd set)


 No.21860

>>21815

Well, you can't know the background of every image that is circulating. I have two images of these girls and they are just showing off their toothbrushes. It is fully speculative if more exist until someone tells you.


 No.21863

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>>21832

>No. The average citizen isn't going to have the dedication to search that deep. Only someone actively looking for CP would take it that far. When Google search turns up nothing, the average citizen is going to flag that image as questionable in their mind, and likely wouldn't be surprised if someone told them it was CP-related later on.

Bullshit. Google actually do have a footer that informs users if suspected images of child abuse were censored filtered from the results.


 No.21874

>>21863

Whoa. I didn't know about that… Interesting. I stand corrected, sir.


 No.21876

>>21863

But that footer didn't turn up when I had Google search for the image in question.

>>21832

OK, I see the question was imprecise. Can an average citizen be expected to be aware of the possibility that Google filters images it believes or knows to be CP?

> the average citizen is going to flag that image as questionable in their mind

Then I'm probably not an average citizen. I'd have thought the image is indeed from a family album, especially since there are many blogs around that virtually serve as one.


 No.21891

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I don't hear us talking about lucid dreaming.


 No.21892

>>21891

Yeah welcome to /younglove/, with an average on-topic attention span of three posts.


 No.21893

>>21892

Or maybe the topic is garbage that posters care so little about that a throwaway post is more interesting in comparison.


 No.21895

>>21893

Considering it's a worthwhile idea and something that seems like a perfect solution for loli-lovers, I should think not!


 No.21896

>>21893

No, I think it's just that we already had a lucid dreaming thread before the board wipe and most of the regulars here already posted in that thread and don't want to repeat themselves and have a carbon-copy conversation that they've already had.

At least, that's how I feel.


 No.21897

>>21895

perfect solution for narcoleptic loli-lovers maybe


 No.21904

>>21895

I prefer methods that don't require months of mental training.


 No.21928

>>21904

It's only months, anon, and you are hopefully going to still be alive for decades.


 No.22037

>>15819

How about you just fight for your rights and the rights of children instead of retreating and hiding in a dream world…


 No.22039

>>15825

>>15835

this

>>15828

>read books, watch movies, play video games

Those this aren't love. Little girls (all people) are not some preprogrammed game to be figured out, conquered, and simply enjoyed. They're complete, separate human beings that learn, grow, and evolve. The fulfillment is not like enjoying something that someone else made, it's in watching a being of evolving complexity expand infinitely beyond what you could ever imagine. VR little girls are, ultimately, a zero sum game, limited by issues relating to programming, hardware, and human creativity and ingenuity, Reaal little girls are organic and ever-changing balls of wonderment and surprises, with a potential complexity level at least equal to our own. You don't have to program shit. You don't have to engineer shit. You don't have to imagine shit. All you have to do is bone some adult woman at just the right time and let nature do it's thing. Who knows? It could even be the little girl that creates little girl VR sex robots for those of us that still won't have social skills, even when it's legal.


 No.22040

>>22039

>>>15835 (You)

Whoops. Guess that's me from three months ago. Great minds think alike, eh?


 No.22069

>>22039

>Those this aren't love.

Totally missed the point. He's saying that enjoyment doesn't have to involve true love to be enjoyment. Some people just want sexual satisfaction and you don't need ~evolving complexity~ to enjoy that. Just like reading books, watching movies and playing video games don't grant you ultimate enlightenment, yet still manage to be pretty awesome at times. Personally I don't see myself using VR for sexual gratification. Maybe lucid dreaming, but I'm not motivated enough to actually try to get one. Besides, I'd still be more excited about stuff like flying.


 No.22070

>>22069

OP here. Yes, this anon has it. I guess it's all about what you desire. Do you not watch porn because it's devoid of what you would get out of a real sexual relationship? Of course not (but there are some who get nothing out of porn).

I myself am not drawn by romantic interests in children. Surely it's possible. For me, a relationship with a child would potentially be fatherly, platonic love. Sexual play, perhaps, yes, but romance doesn't drive me. I'm interested in a visceral sexual experience as pure fantasy.

And I wouldn't think of dream characters as soulless shells; they are a reflection of your subconscious, how you view the world. It can aide in understanding yourself and your relationship to others. For me, I also look to it for my writing. Among other writings, I am gathering scattered pieces inspired by a particular child model I'm completely enamored with. I have a character of her constructed in my mind, as well as an entire setting in which she and other young, radiant girls reside and inspire others with their simple beauty. I would very much like to visit it.


 No.22093

>Living as a pedophile, regardless of how or why one might get "caught", is one of the most painful and soul-crushing experiences possible in a modern first world country. It eats away at your hopes and your dreams and your optimism, leaving only hatred and apathy. You remember being carefree and happy, but there's no way to feel like that again.

If you are someone pre-destined to like cute young females you will live this way in any modern cuntry.

Even if you don't realize that your attraction to petie, non-shelf-ass, non-thigh-thigh, non-"real"-womyn, small females is an attraction to young white girls of your own race, you'll lose in the competition to dogpile one of the few adult women that retain those desirable features.

Either way you're going to be miserable, because of your white genes. Other races prefer shelf-ass big women. REEEAL women. White males (totally white) like young girls.

http://fullchan4jtta4sx.onion/loli/res/16960.html


 No.22094

I was sleeping today, was woken up, went back to sleep.

Was outside a small 3 story house on a small corner lot. Small green shurubery around it, side one way street, european or UK size (tiny, like a sidewalk). My mind indicated that while this was not my family's house, we now owned this as an additional property. In the back of the house was the garage under the house, 1st floor, and concrete parking way (slab) and then to that one way street (very little land)

On the left was the on way street, then the house, and on the right a retaining wall (white stucco concrete).

To the forward was another street (wider)

on the left side of the one way street was another wall (white).

I wonder if the family is still there after we bought it needlessly just to have an additional house?

I walk in through the back garage, I see the mother on a brown L shaped couch, back to me, watching tv on a tube tv (CRT, fairly big for a CRT, 32 inch?). That is the living room, it has windows to the front and left side with up-and-down vertical blinds.

Doesnt' feel like I'm really there.

I sneak up the steps to the second floor then to the second room on the left

(there are 2 rooms on each side of the house on this floor, all doors are open, there is a door between the 2 left rooms)

I awake and am told where the dinner is.

Fall back to sleep.

Am back in dream

Feels absolutly real this time.

I think "I think this is real but might be a dream given the cirumstances of suddenly owning extra houses" "I should check a digi clock"

I look to a wooden end-bannister in the hall that goes to steps, it has an inbuilt black digi-clock on the top of it. It reads 12:01. I look away. I look back it reads 2:00 or 1:23 or something totally different. I now know I'm in a dream. I have 5 in dream min before it de-res 's and the feeling of "this is real" is fading.

I go back to that room in the left+front of a house. I find a young white girl with dirty blond hair. She looks like the girl in the pic that's posted here alot (the one with the nazi SS hat on). She's about 6. I wonder if she should have a daiper to catch shit. Dream decideds that idea is good, she has a diaper now even though she's 6.

I quickly pull her diaper off, I eat the shit and I lick her ass clean of shit. The shit feels grainy. (Usually I feel nothing in dreams). Then I lick her asshole etc. Then I bring her to the leftside of house back room (connected through a door frame) lick her more. I know the dream will dres soon. Her slightly older sister is in this room. Anyway I do the thighing thing, rub my penis on her pussy between her legs etc.

Dream de-reses, becomes just thoughts rather than "YOU ARE LIVING THIS" (though one can become the other fairly easily, it's like the diff between a text adventure and a 3d game of the same genere). I should have touched my face.

There, that was tonight's lucid dreaming.

I really want to marry a cute young white girl child. I am white. Old beliefs allowed this.

This is the closest I've gotten to any girl.

I'm 6ft+, blue eyes, white, not fat, lift, etc.

I know as a white I am garbage. I'll never have what I want. I hate this woman's world and if an army was raised to destroy it I'd join it. I want to marry a girl child that is cute. I do not want an adult women. They are fat, bitches, and their thighs are huge.

I want a young girl so I will have a cute thing for many years. Then I want to marry additional young girls as needed (no divorce).


 No.22095

> I know the dream will dres soon. Her slightly older sister is in this room. Anyway I do the thighing thing, rub my penis on her pussy between her legs etc.

Don't feel this. Only feeling is the feeling you get when your penis is hard. Maybe the feeling of +against boxers. There is very little feeling if any in dreams and no sex feeling really. It's no diff then porn or daydreaming about girls.


 No.22099

>>22095

I've heard differently from the lucid dreaming communities I've creeped. I guess it depends on the person, and probably on a lot of other factors as well.


 No.22438

>>22070

Hello there, fellow writer. I share your view of more of a fatherly love with lolis, and am currently writing a book from 2 1st person perspectives: a pedophile and a loli falling in love. The pedophile is (obviously) easier to write, but writing the girl have been the best moments of my life. Just describing her as she learns new things, does things for the first time, things that are new to her, and trying to go into her mind to envision what the world looks like when you are still young. Maybe it's escapism, but a great one at it.


 No.22439

>but writing the girl have been the best moments of my life.

That is sad and calls for revolution.


 No.22468

>>22439

You can say that about anything.


 No.22526

>>22438

It has definitively served as catharsis for me. I am… consumed… by the eroticism of the perfect, feminine, youthful form. I want to celebrate it. I want to share my adoration. Unfortunately, that's taboo, and while the adoration builds and bubbles into obsession, the writing cools it off. But the burner is always on.


 No.22533

I have practiced lucid dreaming with the goal of having sex in my dreams as I had heard a lot about how great dream-sex was. Hell, some people will even tell you that tulpa sex is mind-blowing, so maybe it's different for everybody.

The techinque I used (I forget the name) was one where you would fall asleep normally, then once inside the dream, come to the realization that you are dreaming. There are several tricks you can use to 'remind' yourself that you are asleep, for me the easiest way to go was to wear a thick rubber band on my wrist and snap myself a few times throughout the day. When dreaming, I would try to maintain this habit only to find that I had no rubber band or didn't feel a thing ,which let me know I was asleep. Wearing and snapping myself with a big rubber band for a few weeks earned me a lot of strange looks. After that stage, I struggled to finally reach a consistent level with my 'dream recall', or the ability to remember your dreams upon waking (of vital importance or you'll forget all your dreaming each night) and also my ability to stay 'tethered' or consciously in the dream without waking myself. All this had taken weeks of practice and I was really excited to get some dream snatch.

So finally I'm tethered and lucid in a nice relaxing dream. I'm following a trail through some sort of empty high-rise office building and I knew that at the end of the trail there would be a beautiful dream woman for me to get fuckin freaky with (I would have rather had a shota tbh, but dreams are weird like that). So, I finally reach the end of the trail and, lo and behold, a sexy dream temptress is waiting for me. We make out a little bit, which feels nice, but I didn't come all this way just to get to first base.

The girl starts going down on me. Because this is a lucid dream, it's almost like she's following my thought commands. I don't even remember taking my pants off or anything but suddenly she was all over my cock. It felt alright, almost like having my dick tugged through my pants. Of course, I'm not willing to stop here. I push the girl back onto her bed and grab my now hard ramrod. I take my time to appreciate the situation before I enter her. I've been waiting for this for months, to unlock the gate to the all-you-can-eat sex buffet of my dreams. I slide into my dream girl and stop briefly to savor the moment before I start pumping away. All my erotic fervor begins to subside as I realize that this is not what I had expected. It does not feel like real sex. It feels like humping air. I try that much harder and begin feeling some friction, although certainly not the warm, wet silkiness of a vagina. As I'm valiantly trying to will this into feeling something like sex, the reality of the situation slowly dawns on me. I've spent months trying to master imaginary fucking and now here I am humping my bed like I'm thirteen again. I continue thrusting half-heartedly as the dream fades. I wake up groggy, myself and my cock unsatisfied and raw from a night of dream sex.

Although I occasionally gaze wistfully at my rubber band and dream journal, I've never again attempted dream sex after that night. That sad realization as I lay with my dream lover has forever turned me off to the experience. A few weeks after this episode, I ended up ordering a fleshlight that looks like a butt and it's been a far better investment, sadly.


 No.22557

>>22526

At the same time, it is so controversial that it's bound to draw a crowd everytime a pedophile book gets published. Look at Lolita, the 5th (i think) most read book in the world. Sorry if i don't use many big words, but i'm actually Polish : ) It's true, that writing something like that gets the edge off, and forces you to look more objectively at the loli's not just as an angel on earth but as a rel person. But maybe that's what so enthralling about them, wondering what they have that (adultivety?) being grown up takes away from them. Honesty, purity, and unspoilt minds, that's what i love best about lolis.


 No.22558

>>22557

>Look at Lolita, the 5th (i think) most read book in the world

Not by a long shot.


 No.22559

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 No.22560

>>22558

>>22559

sorry, some time ago i've searched for a list of objectively best books nd stumbled upon such lists

http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/2681.Time_Magazine_s_All_Time_100_Novels

13th place

http://www.modernlibrary.com/top-100/100-best-novels/

4th place

and so on. Anyway it has 50 million sold copies, and due to the controversy and hate of pedophiles its unbelievably popular


 No.22562

>>22560

Pale Fire was also highly popular, people just like Nabokov.


 No.22666

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>>22559

Fixed the graph because the book sizes make it look skewed.


 No.22668

>>22559

>>22666

Wouldn't the quran, jewbook or some other religious script have a bigger piece of the pie?


 No.22706

>>22668

The Jews read the first part of the Bible, nigga. It is called the Old Testament.

Not many towelheads can read, so the Koran doesn't figure anywhere, except as an excuse for hatred.


 No.22710

>>22706

It would be funny to by copies of it and leave it in hotel rooms like the Gideons do with the Bible.


 No.25482

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Dear anons, I, OP, am pleased to inform you that I have now attained lucidity several times. What started as two brief dreams separated by many months quickly picked up in frequency. Both last week and the week before, I experienced the same wake-initiated dream, falling (literally, it felt) into a lucid dream.

In the latest one, upon entering my dream world, excited, I tried to summon a loli. No dice. So I went outside, into a dream version of my apartment complex. I decided to enter an apartment in which I knew a young girl lived because at this point, fuck real-life morals, I'm going to be proactive!

Unfortunately, upon entering, the apartment was dark and quite scary, and my hopeful erotic dream turned into a suspense film. I quickly woke up.

I'm not discouraged, though. With the amount of times lolis and hebes have shown up in my dreams, it's only inevitable that it should happen when I am lucid. I can't wait. In the meantime, I am enjoying my journey. Will report back.


 No.25699

>>22706

Except that's bullshit. The quran is the most read book in the world. This infographic probably just looked at america


 No.25700

>>25699

Nothing wromg with the koran, or the bible. But many want to see what's necessary and reads all kinds of shit into it. Just like with pedophilia. People only see the negative aspects instead of taking the positive with the negative. Everything in this world is hot and cold, night and day.


 No.25722

Nothing is better than sex in dreams. I think if one had actual sex with a loli it would be even better for her than for you, beacuse a child's fantasy, smell and skin sensory is so strong.

If you did it all soft and cuddly, she'd love you forever. She'd look back on it is a dream.


 No.25727

>>25699

That explains the quotations from Mao. Communism is really popular in America.


 No.25729

>>25727

The problems with America is that they are strict to the point where you can't breathe and as a self self-appointed world police they force their freedom-hating laws, politics and "moral" on the rest of the world.

It is a nation obsessed with norms. And if you are different, you deserve only to die.




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