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 No.16400

Is anyone here ever worried about using Windows 8 or 10, that it's not safe for your video / picture collection?
Like, maybe it automatically uploads your entire thumbnail cache to OneCloud or whatever that bullshit is called, it's impossible to know. What would you do to prevent it?

 No.16406

Don't keep a pic/vid collection. Also never use any type of account, especially with your real identity.

 No.16410

Windows operating systems are insecure. You should not store any files on a networked Windows machine that you wouldn't feel comfortable showing to your neighbors or a friendly neighborhood police officer.

 No.16411

>>16400
You can disable the whole automatically upload images from camera thing.

 No.16414

>>16411
govnt/microshit/whoever can just turn it straight back on without you knowing about it

 No.16415

>>16414
If the government is watching your activities that closely, then uploaded images are the least of your concerns.

 No.16416

>>16415
who says they have to actively be watching you?

 No.16418

>>16416
If they compromised your computer's security just to turn OneDrive's automatic uploading on, they must be investigating you or they wouldn't have bothered.

 No.16420

Windows 7 -> Virtual box -> Debian -> truecrypt

 No.16453

>>16418
>implying that they don't do blanket spying

 No.16457

>>16453
The feds don't have unlimited resources.

 No.16459

>>16457
they apparently have enough resources to passively spy on 100 mil+ of us

 No.16460

>>16459
If they were really that good, there wouldn't be any domestic terrorists.

 No.16464

>>16460
It's hard when the FBI keeps giving homeless people drugs and bombs to justify it's own existence.

 No.16480

>>16464
…wut?

 No.16498

>>16400
Learn to use GNU/Linux.

You can easily dual-boot while you are getting starting and reset back into windows if you need to do something that you cannot do yet in a unix environment.

Also if you are very worried, try practicing whole disc encryption or just storing your photos on an encrypted drive.

 No.16542

>>16498
This but don't bother dual-booting, as they could spy on the hard drive as a whole and find something that you would not give out. Use GNU/Linux friends it cares about all your freedoms unlike the microshit lackeys.

https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
https://fsf.org

 No.18582

Noone's really answered the question throughly. How safe are you from OneCloud spying (as long as you stay away from using it intentionally?)

 No.18590

>>18582
You can disable automatic uploading, so completely safe unless you are a paranoid fuck who thinks the government will turn it back on again.

 No.18599

>>18582

>How safe are you from OneCloud spying (as long as you stay away from using it intentionally?)


The question has already been answered: not safe at all.

Microsoft has a deep and longstanding relationship with U.S. law enforcement and intelligence.

They were the first company to partner with the NSA in PRISM (earlier than Google, Facebook, or any of the others)

They hand over discovered vulnerabilities in their software to the NSA long before releasing any patches to customers, so that Microsoft software can be exploited.

When they bought Skype, they restructured the network so that all Skype communications go though Microsoft servers and are unencrypted there. They also intercept and check all links sent through Skype.

They also collaborated with the FBI on software that continually scans their cloud services for material of interest to law enforcement.

Last week, it was reported that the government can recover private keys for Bitlocker disk encryption from the TPM.

I'm not aware of any instances of Microsoft having pushed an update to turn on cloud services against the user's wishes (though that doesn't mean it hasn't happened), but that's really beside the point. The point is that Microsoft has repeatedly, proactively, and illegally (without a warrant involved) cooperated with U.S. law enforcement and intelligence to compromise its users' data, privacy, and security.

If there's something on your computer you don't want MS/U.S. LEAs to see, don't use Microsoft operating systems. Period.

 No.20965

Don't use any Linux distro that uses systemd, it is not safe either. Its purpose is to introduce remote root exploits into linux via it's incredible complexity.


 No.21009

No.


 No.21010

Seriously. Why would anyone keep their shit on a hard drive IN you computer. When you get V& that's the first thing their going to take and examine. Hidden Micro SD cards are your best friend


 No.21011

>>21010

and if only you encrypt on top of that…


 No.21042

>>16480

FBI entraping hoemless people with plans for bomb making skill san doften pressurign them heavilyi nto doing it.


 No.21055

>>18599

And last month we got word that the NSA has an exploit integrated into the firmware of HDDs of virtually all manufacturers, which allows full access to everything regardless of OS.

But certainly, Linux is much safer than Windows.


 No.21058

>>18599

You're gonna need some new bait.


 No.21067

>>21058

Unfortunately, it's not bait, Special Agent.

I can see why you'd be concerned about people switching away from MS products, though.


 No.21075

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>>21067

>people switching away from MS products

You would have to be seriously deluded to think that's ever going to happen.


 No.21076

>>21075

Nice job trying to change the subject, but nobody said that large numbers of people were going to stop using Windows.


 No.21082

>>21076

Pretty much everyone uses Windows.


 No.21089

>>21067

>not disproven bait

>muh NSAKEY

>1999+15


 No.21092

>>21089

It's 2015, not 2014.


 No.21096

>>21082

That may be true, but nobody said otherwise, and it is totally irrelevant to this discussion.

>>21089

Nobody said or implied anything about NSAKEY, fag. This information all came from the Snowden leaks or stuff that Microsoft has admitted itself (e.g. its collaboration with law enforcement in scanning its cloud services).

Shill harder. You're doing a terrible job.


 No.21117

>>21096

You said

>I can see why you'd be concerned about people switching away from MS products, though.

Which isn't happening.


 No.21126

>>21096

Everyone cooperates with law enforcement. Why are pointing out only Microsoft?


 No.21128

>>21126

>Everyone cooperates with law enforcement. Why are pointing out only Microsoft?

Because this thread is about Windows and MS cloud services. Read the thread before you reply to it next time.


 No.21132

>>16400

>What would you do to prevent it?

Do not use Windows 8 or 10?


 No.21133

>>21132

Not OP, I store SFW and borderline 2D loli (but not actual porn) on OneDrive and nothing wrong has happened. Microsoft doesn't forbid it anyway.


 No.21136

>>16400

Install gentoo


 No.21142

>>21128

Yeah, but

>its collaboration with law enforcement in scanning its cloud services

is something reasonable you would expect everyone to do. It's not like Windows is automatically uploading random files to the cloud or whatever paranoid nonsense is being spouted here.


 No.21161

>>21142

There's a difference between passive cooperation with law enforcement (e.g. responding to warrants), which all companies do, and active cooperation with law enforcement. You're suggesting that all cloud services do what Microsoft has admitted to doing, which is actively scanning user content and contacting law enforcement proactively.

I assume you have a citation for that, which we will all be eagerly awaiting.

Your shilling is improving, but you're still not going to catch any but the dumbest people. Keep trying.


 No.21175

>>21161

Google, the other major IT company other than Microsoft, certainly does. If you need a citation for that, you must live under a rock.


 No.21182

>>21175

I figured you were just making shit up, and now you've confirmed it. Thanks.

Also, whether Google or any other company follows the MS model of enthusiastic, proactive cooperation with law enforcement is really irrelevant to the topic of this thread. Windows is still a closed-source, user-hostile operating system developed by a company with a track record of cooperating with law enforcement and intelligence agencies at the expense of their customers' security and privacy.


 No.21184

>>21182

Someone really needs to start taking their meds.


 No.21191

>>21184

Indeed, you should start taking your meds.

Meds aren't going to fix your inability to stay on topic or provide evidence for your assertions, but we can hope that they'll blunt your compulsion to shitpost.


 No.21192

>>21191

epic :^)


 No.21204

>>21182

>figured you were just making shit up, and now you've confirmed it. Thanks.

I'm not making anything up, Google is actively seeking out child porn and people who upload it and that was something they publicly announced, so it's not bullshit.

>Windows is still a closed-source

Who cares?

>user-hostile operating system

No, Windows is user-friendly. Unlike Linux, which is pretty ugly looking even if you use Ubuntu or similar Windows-like distro.

>developed by a company with a track record of cooperating with law enforcement and intelligence agencies at the expense of their customers' security and privacy.

Also company that pretty much everyone codes for, so unless you want to run everything through WINE, you are going to use Windows. Also, again, every major company works with LEAs. Plus you can't boycott a company just because they sometimes hurt their customers and are evil, you wouldn't have anyone to buy from.


 No.21208

>>21204

>I'm not making anything up, Google is actively seeking out child porn and people who upload it and that was something they publicly announced, so it's not bullshit.

If they publicly announced this, you shouldn't be having so much trouble coming up with a citation.

In addition, even if it's true, it's still totally irrelevant to this thread. This thread is not about Google, it's about Microsoft, and nobody is recommending Google cloud services or ChromeOS as an alternative to MS. And poor behavior on Google's part does not somehow make Microsoft okay.

>Windows is still a closed-source

>Who cares?

Anyone who doesn't want law enforcement rooting around in their computer with impunity.

>No, Windows is user-friendly. Unlike Linux, which is pretty ugly looking even if you use Ubuntu or similar Windows-like distro.

Windows is user-hostile because Microsoft flagrantly disregards its users' security and privacy, not because it's difficult to use. Go back in the thread, read slowly, sound out the words, and try to understand what's being discussed here.

>Also company that pretty much everyone codes for, so unless you want to run everything through WINE, you are going to use Windows.

There are Linux alternatives to the vast majority of software that the vast majority of people use the vast majority of the time. Apart from professional graphic artists, hardcore gamers, and a few others using very specialized software, Linux is a viable alternative these days. It's not 1998 anymore.

This is all irrelevant still, however, because this thread isn't about Linux marketshare or people switching to Linux. It's about whether Microsoft operating systems are trustworthy and can be relied upon to safeguard their users' security and privacy. They are not, and they cannot, and no amount of your trying to change the subject changes this fact.

>Also, again, every major company works with LEAs.

Totally irrelevant to the thread. Also, go back and read again slowly, since reading comprehension is apparently tough for you about the difference between passive and active cooperation.

>Plus you can't boycott a company just because they sometimes hurt their customers and are evil, you wouldn't have anyone to buy from.

That's a silly thing to say.


 No.21215

>>21204

>No, Windows is user-friendly. Unlike Linux, which is pretty ugly looking even if you use Ubuntu or similar Windows-like distro

"I have never used Linux in my life"

You are a fucking retard. Linux is MUCH more user friendly than Windows ever was. Windows is bloated, horrbile customized, the terminal is useless and ricing is barley possible.

And Ubuntu is the ugliest Linux you can get.

Faggot


 No.21217

>>21208

>>21215

FSF shills pls go


 No.21224

>>21208

>This is all irrelevant still, however, because this thread isn't about Linux marketshare or people switching to Linux. It's about whether Microsoft operating systems are trustworthy and can be relied upon to safeguard their users' security and privacy. They are not, and they cannot, and no amount of your trying to change the subject changes this fact.

No, it's about whether Windows "automatically uploads your entire thumbnail cache to OneCloud," which it doesn't.


 No.21225

>>21208

>Anyone who doesn't want law enforcement rooting around in their computer with impunity.

Being open source isn't going to prevent that from happening.


 No.21228

>>21224

>OneCloud

*OneDrive

Apologies for the error.


 No.21229

>>21228

It doesn't matter what they call it, the fact remains that you can shut off ignore Microsoft's cloud service and still use Windows. It's not like you are forced to upload anything. You don't need to switch to another operating system just because you are worried about that.


 No.21237

>>21224

>No, it's about whether Windows "automatically uploads your entire thumbnail cache to OneCloud," which it doesn't.

No, learn to read. It's about whether Windows 8 or 10 is "safe", and the thumbnail cache upload to OneCloud was an *example* OP gave.

Microsoft's track record amply demonstrates that Windows operating systems are not "safe" if you value your security and privacy.

>>21225

>Being open source isn't going to prevent that from happening.

Don't be dense. Using open-source full-disk encryption software on an open-source operating system prevents unauthorized individuals from accessing your data and decreases the likelihood of an intentional backdoor lurking in the software.

>>21229

>It doesn't matter what they call it, the fact remains that you can shut off ignore Microsoft's cloud service and still use Windows.

The law enforcement community is thrilled with your support.

What happens when law enforcement exploits one of the security flaws that Microsoft tells them about (that they don't tell you about, or patch) to turn on cloud services, or works with Microsoft to push a malicious update to your machine, or snags your Bitlocker lol Bitlocker key to decrypt your HDD?

>Windows is gr8 gaiz totally safe! Trust Microsoft they keeping u safe!


 No.21241

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>No, learn to read. It's about whether Windows 8 or 10 is "safe", and the thumbnail cache upload to OneCloud was an *example* OP gave.

And if you don't upload your illegal photographs to the cloud, it's fine.

>What happens when law enforcement exploits one of the security flaws that Microsoft tells them about (that they don't tell you about, or patch) to turn on cloud services

What if Microsoft turns my keyboard into a bomb? Pointless paranoid rambling. Did it ever occur to you that you need to sign up for OneDrive and you can simply bypass that part of the when you are setting up Windows? Oh, no Microsoft is going to automatically sign you up for their services, then proceed to download and then upload child porn because they secretly want all their customers in jail.

>or snags your Bitlocker lol Bitlocker key to decrypt your HDD

My hard drive isn't encrypted. If they wanted to, they could just pull it out and read it. I tend to rely on the better method of CCleaner and shredding anything illegal people sometimes post.


 No.21243

>>21237

>What happens when

It doesn't, you're just paranoid and anything that confirms your beliefs no matter how fake is evidence.


 No.21249

>>21241

>>21243

Edward Snowden.

That's really the only thing that needs to be said to you shills.

For anyone reading the thread who's not in the employ of Microsoft or a LEA, check out Citizen Four. It's a very informative documentary, and you can download it for free.


 No.21255

>>21249

What does Snowden have to do with the conversation? I can't believe just few posts before you were complaining about me changing the subject and then you pull out this nonsense. Unless Snowden found that Microsoft is forcing people to sign up for their cloud service or there is a current security exploit that you are vaguely hinting at.


 No.21268

>>21255

>Unless Snowden found that Microsoft is forcing people to sign up for their cloud service

This thread is still not about MS cloud services. It's about whether Windows is "safe", and involuntary cloud upload was provided by the OP as one hypothetical example.

It remains the case the Windows is not safe for users that care about privacy and security.

If you don't know what bearing the Snowden leaks have on that assessment, you either aren't familiar with the leaks (in which case you should read about them and watch Citizen Four), or you are deficient in basic reasoning. I suspect the latter, but I can't help you with that.

Now, if I stopped here, this is where you'd continue to repeat your two or three talking points and say again "B-but you don't have to use the cloud services" or "B-but other companies do that too!" in yet another attempt to derail the thread, shift the topic of discussion, and somehow diminish the impact of Microsoft's practices on the security and privacy of Windows users.

You're just going to keep repeating the same few things argumentum ad nauseam. They aren't any less irrelevant or fallacious than the first time you stated them.


 No.21278

>>21268

>Now, if I stopped here, this is where you'd continue to repeat your two or three talking points and say again "B-but you don't have to use the cloud services" or "B-but other companies do that too!" in yet another attempt to derail the thread, shift the topic of discussion, and somehow diminish the impact of Microsoft's practices on the security and privacy of Windows users.

You're just going to keep repeating the same few things argumentum ad nauseam. They aren't any less irrelevant or fallacious than the first time you stated them.

So are you going to not stop here? I'm waiting for the argument you promised.


 No.21280

>>21268

>>21268

>you either aren't familiar with the leaks (in which case you should read about them and watch Citizen Four), or you are deficient in basic reasoning

I know you are talking about PRISM, but I don't see why that's such a big deal as you are making it out to be.


 No.26703

What's this talk about a Windows 10 "keylogger" ?!? What is it that's going on?


 No.26716

Odd how supportive people are of cp which depicts sex acts on kids but actually doing those sex acts is wrong. So I should make cp and then you all would support me? :p


 No.26718

>>26703

That was part of the technical preview so they could get information from the testers. It's mentioned in the privacy statement (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-privacy-statement)

>when you input text, handwrite notes, or ink comments, we may collect samples of your input to improve these input features, (e.g., to help improve the accuracy of autocomplete and spellcheck).

Microsoft said that it was not included in the final release.


 No.26770

>>21241

>My hard drive isn't encrypted.

Hahahaha have fun time in prison!

RIP 19XX-2015 Anon


 No.26774

>>26770

Did you miss the CCleaner part?


 No.27189

Why don't you do all of your ontopic activities in a Linux based Virtual Machine?


 No.27190

laziness and im not doing anything actually illegal, just embarrassing to be exposed


 No.28763

>>16400

>What would you do to prevent it?

Do not use Windows 8 or 10.

It is really this simple.


 No.28764

>>28763

Doctor it hurts when I sleep.

Stop sleeping.


 No.28765

>>28764

Because for some reason you absolutely need to use specifically one of those two operating systems to live?


 No.28779

>>28764

Using Windows 8 or 10 as important as sleep to you?

Maybe you should see a doctor.


 No.28782

>>28765

>>28779

If you want to use most computer programs, especially games, yes, you need Windows. You might as well be using a tablet otherwise.


 No.28799

>>28782

Don't play games. Stop being a loser.

All other software has a mostly equivalent replacement on Linux\BSD\Mac\whatever, unless you need to run some exotic medical spacecraft engineering program that was only produced for you and requires a VDX driver written for Windows ME installed in a special compatibility wrapper for XP in a wrapper for 10 to be installed, the you should just use a VM.


 No.28811

>>28782

Dual boot with encrypted linux sexup. Or a separate device.

Just because you need a windows installation to play computer games you do NOT need to browse lolis with it.


 No.28813

>>28811

Or you can just turn off a couple of options in Windows and not have to constantly reboot your computer.


 No.28828

>>28813

>Or you can just turn off a couple of options in Windows and not have to constantly reboot your computer.

>turn off a couple of options

Which options in Windows do you have to turn off to get effective FDE? Which options in Windows do you have to turn off to open the source code so it can be scrutinized for law enforcement/intelligence backdoors?

I guess maybe a better question is which options in Windows do you have to turn off so that you're not a fucking moron anymore? But that's a not a question for you, since you obviously haven't found those options yet.


 No.28854

>>28828

Did the OP ask for full disk encryption? Your own needs aren't the needs of the person you are supposedly trying to help. If you are just worried about having a potentially embarrassing image being uploaded automatically, you don't need to start acting like you are a criminal on the run from the government. Just turn off OneDrive.




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