/younglove/ - Pedophilia Discussion

>>16701
FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKING GODDAM SHIT BOARD GO TO HELL YOU FUCKING BASTARD, NOT FUCKING UPLOADING THE PICTURE I ATTACHED DAMN YOU!!!

>>16701
You haven't really given enough of an understanding of the situation or people to work off. Sorry.

>>16708
What's missing? When I tried posting it on /hebe/, it was tl;dr.


>>>/hebe/26355

>>16710
If it's like that, the best thing to do is go aggressive. Her mum's hurting her, and you should confront her over that. March up to her, tell her that she's hurting her daughter, demand that she stop. Be pissed off. Tell her that you don't have to see her daughter yourself, seeing as you think that you're the cause of this, but that she shouldn't cut her daughter off from everyone else as well. The quickest way to end this is to show her mum that what she's doing is hurting her daughter. Say that (whoever these friends are) are going to visit her (without you) just to cheer her up, and make it clear to her that turning them away does nothing other than hurt her daughter.

Make sure not to make it about you. Be clear that you won't be in the picture. Make her focus on what she's doing to her daughter and, if she's half-way reasonable, she'll stop. You might not be able to see her again in a long time, but that's of secondary importance, right?

>>16710
> I don't know what happened, but I have to make it right.
That sounds very difficult for as long as you truly don't know what happened. How was your relationship with the girl?

>I could have told her ahead of time, don't tell anyone else.
I don't necessarily believe 100% in it, but… "If you're in a relationship that has to be kept secret: you shouldn't be in it.". If your relationship with this girl was of a quality that required secrecy, then the consequences of the broken secrecy is on you because you knew the risks.

I'd say you have to find a way to be completely open about this. Anything you say or do with a girl, you have to be able to stand by it and say "Yes, that happened". Try to make it clear to her parents what your relationship is actually about, and that it isn't a bad or dangerous thing. You need her to trust you… But right now, it sounds like your status is that of a liar.

>all I would have had to do to stop this from happening would have been to have just warned her at some point that it's imperative to keep it a secret from everyone else.
Totally the wrong outlook to have. You want her to keep secrets from her own parents that, if revealed, would have these consequences? You should be striving for a relationship that the parents will support.

Anyway, why do you think she has no friends? And why do you think she's being isolated from everyone else, too?

>>16714
>Anyway, why do you think she has no friends? And why do you think she's being isolated from everyone else, too?
In his post on /hebe/ he said that her other friends couldn't contact her either.

>>16715
Yeah, that's super weird. How old are those other two friends? How big is the age difference between all of you? And still, what do you mean she has no friends? Does she not go to school? How did you get to know her?

I feel like there's a lot here that needs elaboration to even remotely understand what's going on.

>>16712
>>16715
Gotta correct that detail. It's not a hundred percent accurate. Apparently, one person got a text in. But, let's face it, that relationship won't ever be the same. I'm the only one who's likely to seek continuation of friendship with these people.

Without getting too specific, we used to hang out somewhere, but I fucked up in some way, some misunderstanding or new knowledge came up on the mom's part, they stopped coming to this place, I got exiled from it, they're likely not seeing anyone from there at all.

>You might not be able to see her again in a long time, but that's of secondary importance, right?
I honestly am at risk of death by accident or suicide every single day. No, I need to fix this. I need my best friend back. My life is at stake. The longer I have to wait, the less likely I survive.

>>16714
I never lied, nor did I make an effort to keep anything secret. Hell, I fucking hit on her in front of both of her parents and they didn't say shit! But then I hit on her or something later on and suddenly I'm some raper or some shit? What the fuck?! Did they not think I was serious before and did more recently? Why the fuck didn't her mom say something to me if she wanted me to back it up or something?! People are such trash!

>>16716
The other two friends are twenty and twenty-one. She doesn't go to school. She has maybe one or two friends in her neighborhood.

>>16719
>Hell, I fucking hit on her in front of both of her parents and they didn't say shit!
Hah, awesome!

>She doesn't go to school.
Why not? It sounds like there's a lot more weird shit going on with this family regardless of your involvement?

I guess you have to wait until you get some information about what the hell is going on. How sure are you that it has anything to do with you and her? Do you have any idea why your two friends didn't want to help you? I mean gee, it sounds like a conspiracy. I do hope you get some information soon so you can get this resolved.

>>16721
She's home schooled. It's a common thing. I respect it. It's probably part of the reason she's the innocent little angel I love so much, but at the same time, there are less people for her to talk to, especially since she just had a whole pool of people yanked. She also happens to not be so good around other people for the most part. And now, neither am I. I can't be around many other people or I'll start to pass out. That's just one of the many physical and mental side effects that this is taking on me.

>How sure are you that it has anything to do with you and her?
It would be bizarre if it didn't. That would involve some very big coincidences. It's possible, but unlikely. I mean, maybe I could have just directly pissed off the mom, but I don't think she'd react so strongly to something like that.

>Do you have any idea why your two friends didn't want to help you?
These two are a couple that I helped make happen. I regret that decision severely.
Girl: "I don't want to get involved. I might get in trouble."
And then when I try to ask the guy for help, she tells him not to. And he's such a fucking douche who favors her over anyone else so goddam much that he just went with that.
Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I don't want to forgive it. I have to, though, because forgiveness is the only thing that can save me here, and if I can't forgive others, I can't expect forgiveness for myself. Even still, I'm so angry. It makes me so angry to think about it. I'm sure I haven't heard from them in a week, too… I could try to meet up with them today, but do I even care? Leaving the house isn't even a thing that I want to do.

>I mean gee, it sounds like a conspiracy.
My entire life has felt like a conspiracy against me. I finally, finally had happiness in the form of this girl, and then this had to happen. What's even more conspiratorial is that some unknown asshole has said shit about me to other people from the place that I don't understand the origin of at all, but it leads me to believe even more that evening crumbling down on me has to do with the girl and I. But these horrible people are seeing something that's not there. They're taking something innocent and making it dirty.

I don't post a lot nowadays. I figure this will happen to me eventually…

Whatever you do discuss matters in person never using phone/email/letter.

>>16723
sounds like you have a few issues you should be working out before you go back around this girl anyway

>>16726
Not paedophilia. Hebephilia. You know, that thing that's actually completely normal.

>>16744
Don't let it happen to you. Keep your guard up. Stay logical. Control the flow of information.

I don't see much problem with phone, but the other two, of course. A letter would definitely have to be an anonymous dead drop, preferably typed. All I've done recently with the phone, of course, has been try to call and get ignored.

Yeah, I mean, I do think just going up to the front door may be the best course of action, though I do fear having the door shut in my face.

>>16760
>>16791
I hate myself because I'm a villain in my own story because of this failure. Trust me, once this gets fixed, I won't be nearly as codependent. No pain could be as bad as this. If I can just fix the matter and get rid of this horrible pain, everything is fine.

Also, her age doesn't mean shit to me. She'll still be the same girl. All her getting older means is that I can marry her. I actually wished she was older from the very beginning, because of shit like this.

>>16793
Fuck off, asshole. She's the one responsible for the two friends knowing. She told them. I told my mom because she pulled it out of me, like she always does. You'd ask questions, too, if your son was basically bedridden with depression.

>>16796
>I actually wished she was older from the very beginning, because of shit like this.
Then why didn't you wait until she was legal first before you started dating her?

>>16793
Non-contributing post.

>>16796
>Not paedophilia. Hebephilia. You know, that thing that's actually completely normal.
Overt shitposting.

>>16800
>Then why didn't you wait until she was legal first before you started dating her?
Is this a pedo board or not?

>>16806
We have all kinds of users here…

>>16800
Because I fell in love with her, and love makes you drop your guard. I realized she was everything I'd always wanted. And I had also figured out that she liked me back. She liked me the whole time, in fact! My logic went out the window, okay? I should have told her to wait until I could get a better read on her parents. But love makes you more trusting and less logical.

>>16821
> I would have just droped her
*You

>>16821
First of all, she already has tits, retard. Secondly, fuck you. Thirdly, she'd never claim anything like that. I bet she's just waiting for me to come to the rescue. And finally,
>implying I'm the only one suffering here
She is surely suffering as well.

So go to Hell, you exclusive-pedo worm. I don't have a problem with people like you except when you push your bullshit on everyone else just like a fucking fag.

>>16825
As a different exclusive, this guy's right. Don't just presume that everyone here would drop a girl as soon as she hits puberty.

Even those who do think of themselves as exclusive tend to stay attached, in practice, since they've already fallen for her.

>>16821
I'm an exclusive. There's a girl I've known since she was 8, and I've had a massive crush on her for a whole damn long time. She's 12 now, and has grown breasts a bit. Sometimes, when I see her, it's almost like she has gotten even more beautiful. Almost like she is warping my attractions into hebephilia when it's her. I'll get back to you in a few years and tell you if I suddenly stop liking her, in the meantime please quit your blatant prejudice - you don't know jack about anyone's feelings other than your own.

>>16825
>She is surely suffering as well.
How do you know she is suffering? What do you know about what she has said? Really it seems like you don't know anything about what's going on, so I think you should try to gather information before assuming anything at all.
Do you know anyone at all who speaks to the family at all? They must have some connections that you can contact.

>>16828
>Love is the result of sexuality, not vice versa.
Love arises from sexuality, and further sexuality arises from love. If you fall in love with them when they're younger, you'll still find them attractive even if they grow a pair of tits. A girl who you wouldn't usually be attracted to can often get a far better score if you love her already.

>>16827
>Do you know anyone at all who speaks to the family at all? They must have some connections that you can contact.
The only two would be the two "friends" I mentioned who won't help me. I could try talking to neighbors or something, but that could be asking for trouble. And at that point, might as well go straight to the people I really need to talk to.

>>16828
>You basicaly came out to your friends, which is bad.
They knew without me having to say anything.
>Think, why hasnt she tried to contact you?
I believe that she has, actually . I have two calls from "Restricted" that I missed like a fucking idiot. Their timing indicates to me a fairly strong likelihood of being from her.

>Are her parents conservative control freaks or pretty cool guys who just care about her?
Unknown, but given the situation, I now believe the former is more likely.

>How was she acting during the last weeks of your relationship? Has anything occured?
Everything was normal between us.

>For your own well beeing, stop before you ruin yourself even more. Love is a bitch, you will get over it.
Bite me.

>And for the sake of god, dont do anything stupid like abducting her.
I won't. I'm going to fix this without breaking any laws.

>Leave it be, at this point, you can only loose.
Fuck you. To give up is to die. I won't go down without a fight.

>>16806
>Is this a pedo board or not?
Waiting until she becomes legal is a good way to see if it's true love or just pedophilia talking. That's why I'm still single and not in jail.

>>16832
>I believe that she has, actually . I have two calls from "Restricted" that I missed like a fucking idiot. Their timing indicates to me a fairly strong likelihood of being from her.
Restricted doesn't mean a number that has blocked you, it means a number that refuses to give their number out for caller ID. Usually telemarketers. If you don't believe me, then why didn't she leave a message?

>>16850
It's not as biased as it is presumptuous. He hasn't explained his situation in an anywhere near clear enough way that you can make any of the statements that you just made. In fact, it seems pretty much like you're trying to bait him into a shitflinging fight by blatantly throwing out arbitrary details where at least a couple of them are bound to be false.

>>16837
Sounds like a questionable decision.

>>16840
I doubt I'm blocked. Just ordered to be ignored. Weak willed girl, methinks. Only I was ever able to pull her true feelings out. Sadly, a lack of ability to question authority is always a bad thing. In this case, it's much to my detriment. She probably just bottled it up and went with it.

>>16851
Anything else you want to know in particular?

I'm still depressed as fuck, but I have learned some genuine self confidence for the first time in my life, I think. I believe that I can do this. I believe that I can fix this. If I'm unlucky, it will take more time. If I'm lucky and skilled, I can hopefully fix it before the month is up. But I've done some good work on myself. I think I've found the right balance where I'm still miserable, but I'm not kill-myself miserable, I'm motivated miserable.

>>17882
there's nothing questionable about following the law or seeing if your love can survive at least puberty.

>Only I was ever able to pull her true feelings out
how conceited can you get…

>>17883
You're not doing anything illegal so long as you're not doing anything sexual.

>how conceited can you get…
I have to keep myself going somehow. Don't be a tit.

>>17884
if you don't want to be jeered at don't say outrageous things

>>17885
All I did was say something that might be an exaggeration.

Going to bed for now. Hoping I might see something more constructive when I get up.

Before this board was wiped, I posted a story about being investigated by the authorities for my relationship with my niece. What led to the investigation was an unrelated lapse in judgement, but the authorities latched on to information reported to them about me and my niece. Unlike you, I was inappropriate, but, like you, I never kissed her, and I didn't touch her genitals or chest. When the authorities finally contacted their family, her mother was disgusted with me and frustrated with her sister, my wife.

I denied everything, was never charged, and a number of years passed before I saw the parents again. The story ends well, with the parents and daughter spending a couple days with me and my wife during a reunion. We're all friends now, though not as close as we were, sadly.

Here's the thing. I know a part of the hell you went through. The first few days after the authorities knocked, I was more scared than I'd ever been in my adult life. That wore off as I came to terms with the (most realistic) worst case scenario which was, in my mind, prison and/or other legal consequences, divorce, loss of work, and, also, probably the dissapointment of my mother.

What was harder and longer lasting than my fear for myself was knowledge that my relationship with my niece would never be the same again and worry that she might be traumatized by her family and/or the system. For about a week, even after worry for my own safety had mostly passed, I had never been so miserable.

I don't need to explain how it felt since your situation was worse. At least I was already practically across the country from my neice and used to only seeing her maybe once or twice per year. When our time ended after my last visit to her family, I went through serious withdrawal and depression. We'd been closer during that week I spent with her family than we'd ever been (and that had been part of the reason I crossed some lines). I can only imagine what hell it has been like for you not only to lose contact with your love for what sounds like the first time after you were so close, but also deal with the social consequences and worry for her at the same time (even if she is adolescent and not a child as in my case).

After not hearing anything for 2 weeks, the weight on my chest, the expectation that the authorities would contact their family, began to ease. After a month, I could sleep normally. After 6 months, I'd thought I got off lucky, having never heard anything from either the authorities or my neice's family. Unfortunately, it was then that the authorities finally contacted their family and reopened that (partially self-inflicted) wound, and I went through almost the exact same process all over again once more.

If you want to be with your girl rather than move on as I was compelled to, I can't offer you any relevant personal experience, but, if that should happen not to work out, and, for whatever reason, you can't save your girl like I couldn't save mine, I can encourage you to stay positive. My niece appears to be happy as ever and growing up fine. I don't know what impact the investigation had on her since I couldn't bring myself to broach that topic with her parents, and I didn't want to go asking her questions directly without knowing what had happened or whether she'd even been interviewed. All I know is that her mother had refused to allow a pelvic exam on her 9-ish year old daughter.

Whether or not you manage to fix your situation, I can assure you, you're not alone, and, no matter what happens, if you keep living your life, it will get better.

Children and adolescents are resilient, more so than adults. If your girl's parents really love her, she'll be alright.

As for yourself, if you don't have the great (and maybe unlikely) fortune of making amends with her mother and reuniting with her or at least seeing she's okay (like I did), then give yourself time. It will hurt for a long time. If you let it hurt and don't deny yourself the time to grieve, if you can grieve in healthy ways, then you'll be able to move on faster. I recommend researching grief coping if you're not sure how to go about it.

In the mean time, I'd like to offer a sympathetic ear to talk to, but I'm not on here often. If you want to talk, however, that can be arranged… I think.

>>17892
This is the most understanding post anyone has made about this. Thank you. I'm glad everything worked out for you. I think that, ultimately, the very worst that can happen to me is an incredibly miserable time until she's eighteen and her parents have no legal control over her. Of course, I don't want that, as it would be a very long and very miserable wait. Any parent with even a shred of reasonability probably wouldn't keep me away that long.

>>17898 My best to you! It may really be a lonely wait until then. If that's the case, then, hopefully, you and she will grow fonder of one another and each prepare yourselves for a relationship when you finally reunite. If she only grows up to be happy with somebody else, I hope you find another sweetheart, not to replace her, but to create the same happiness the two of you had.

Glad I could help.

>>17913
>I got a "like" on Facebook
inb4 it was just a misclick.
^if they needed to they could use that justification and it would put you back at square one.

In all it's cute how giddy this post seems.

or maybe someone just didn't get the memo that you were on the shitlist

>>17962
Even if that's the case, it means that attention was being paid to me.

>>17963
Nah, that's impossible.


I feel like this is close to getting better. I really do.

>>17969
Attention was always being paid to you. If it wasn't they'd have most likely blocked you on Facebook the first chance they were reminded of you.

Worst case scenario is they haven't because they want to keep tabs on you.

Worse case is that they aren't technologically-interested enough to block you.

Better case is someone just gave you the like because of whatever content you contributed rather than because it was you.

Best case is they want to accept you back but don't want to risk their own social standing by doing so.

>>17990
>Worst
And that would be okay, because that would gradually show them that I'm not so bad.

>Worse
Possible, but unlikely. They're savvy enough.

>Better
Liking anything involving me is good, though.

>Best
>social standing
I feel this is reasonably likely. But they don't know all that many people to begin with. And nobody has to know anything. When I think of it this way, there are surely solutions.

*sigh*
Still really hard to know what to do, though.

>>18005
>nobody has to know anything
If only that was "nobody else will ever find out. Then they would probably be less reluctant to risk things.

>that would gradually show them that I'm not so bad.
You hope so, but confirmation bias is a rather tricky thing. All the not so bad things you do will just get brushed off as meh, but let some bad thing pop up and they're all over that.
"Oh, you graduated top of the class in college?" meh
"Oh, you got a position at a prestigious job?" meh. probably even jealousy.
"Oh, it seems you are talking with some other underaged girl" They'd be the first to "warn" that other girl all about you.

>Still really hard to know what to do, though.
Yeah, that's why a lot of us are here. The next steps are a mystery to us all. Just continue being good that worst case scenario could just turn out in your favour.