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 No.21886

How safe / risky is it to use TOR if you only use it to look at onion sites and never post anything at all? Assuming noone gets physical access to your computer….

Also, which version / plugin / whatever would you recommend? There seems to be several ways to access it.

 No.21888

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>if you only use it to look at onion sites and never post anything at all?

Why should loading a onion site be different from posting on one? Do you have any idea how TOR works? If not, i suggest you read a bit about it in the first place.

>Also, which version / plugin / whatever would you recommend? There seems to be several ways to access it.

Tor Browser Bundle. Using anything else is indeed the best way to compromise your anonymity. Also, the above.


 No.21899

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>>21886

>>21888

>"TOR"

Wasted trips


 No.21914

Tor browser bundle 2nded,

I imagine it is very stressful to access actual CP from CP websites if thats what are asking about.

There are occasional raids and breaks in anonymity. Some of the nodes and sites are known to be government run and all internet is tracked and recorded when it crosses the border. Its encrypted but the encryption can be broken especially with improvements in computing. quantum computing and massively parrallel computing may not be far in the future which could be used to see what you were accessing in the past/ present. Maybe I'm paranoid.

Anyone know of a good replacement for truecrypt?


 No.21943

>>21914

Unless I'm mistaken you can be forced to open your true crypt folder, or get big sentence for obstructing justice. I can say with no uncertainty that it is wise not to fill and store a folder of anything on your computer that is even questionable. Look, have fun, then scrub/overwrite. Prison is no fun for white computer nerds for a multitude of reasons. If you're going to store these thins on your computer, I'd learn jiu-jitsu starting before you store and build up your stamina with lots of hands on fighting. When you're confident you take on the majority of those you practice against, then at least you can take care of yourself if all your security measures fail. I'm sort of joking. Just sort of.


 No.21980

>>21914

>Its encrypted but the encryption can be broken

[citation needed]

>quantum computing

is currently somewhere between "unproven early-stage R&D tech" and "cold fusion level hoax" and is theoretically superior to regular computing for defeating only certain kinds of encryption.

>could be used to see what you were accessing in the past/ present.

It's true that a great deal of stored encrypted traffic might be decrypted at some point in the future, but:

1. Whatever is decrypted probably won't be able to be tied to you.

2. Even if it could be tied to you, it will probably be too old to serve as the basis for a warrant.

3. There are statutes of limitations.

>Anyone know of a good replacement for truecrypt?

dm-crypt/LUKS on Linux or GELI on FreeBSD.

If you care about security, don't use Windows.

>>21943

>Unless I'm mistaken you can be forced to open your true crypt folder, or get big sentence for obstructing justice

1. Depends on your jurisdiction.

2. The sentences for obstructing justice or whatever aren't always that long, and depending on what you're hiding, even if they were long, they might still be shorter than the sentence for what you have encrypted.

3. I believe Truecrypt has hidden containers for plausible deniability.

The best advice is not to seek out illegal material period.


 No.21981


 No.21982

>>21981

1. That blog post is a year and a half old.

2. It was speculative.

3. It was about a public-key encryption scheme (and key length) that hasn't been used since many versions of Tor ago.

The blog post does not provide any evidence for the assertion that *current* Tor traffic

>encryption can be broken

Nice try, FBI.


 No.21983

>>21982

I'm not going to underestimate what the feds can do. Better to keep your nose clean.


 No.22019

>>21983

This is the best advice, really. If you aren't willing take the risk, then don't commit any crimes. And don't be surprised when that paper shield you call 'rights' doesn't save you either.

Which I don't mean to say that you should behave like an idiot and store your shit on google drive either.


 No.22072

>>21980

>If you care about security, don't use Windows.

Bingo

>Unless I'm mistaken you can be forced to open your true crypt folder, or get big sentence for obstructing justice

>1. Depends on your jurisdiction.

If probably cause of storing/viewing/distributing cp brought them to your house and is causing them to take all your data to a lab - every jurisdiction/judge/court in the USA would pounce at putting you under the jail for obstructing justice.

>3. I believe Truecrypt has hidden containers for plausible deniability.

If it's on your machine, they'll find it. They take incredible pride and excitement in finding things you think you've hidden.


 No.22084

>>21914

VeraCrypt.


 No.22092

>>22072

Well, if it's an Internet crime, that's a federal offense because it crosses state lines, which makes it the FBI's jurisdiction.


 No.22101

Use Tails from an usb stick

or on normal windows (if you have to)

Tor+shellbag cleaner+PrivaZer+CCleaner (wipe empty space)+DiskDefrag+Deleting thumbcatches with Eraser (c:/user/you/appdata/local/microsoft/windows/explorer)

….and that are just the basics

maybe also a vpn (to hide tor activity)


 No.22105

>>22101

This sounds stupid enought that i believe you are actually use such a setup.

Encrypt your disk. Then you don't have to worry about whatever remain is somewhere in your filesystem or your OS.


 No.22106

>>22105

Unless someone decrypts it.


 No.22133

>>22106

If someone manage that, i have far worse problem. A compromised system that is already logging my activities, or a hardware keylogger. And against these, deleting cache and thumbnails is a joke.


 No.22135

after 2 years https://blog.torproject.org/blog/hidden-services-need-some-love and some nasty raids no love to hidden (.onion) services yet. We earn a millon $$ per year but well..

If you care about your safety see this attack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwawq8PsozU

and then see also:

https://blog.torproject.org/category/tags/entry-guards

Tails make you specially vulnerable to guards node attack because each time tails boot you choose a different set of guards node. Tor browser bundle choose a different set of guards node each 3 weeks i think or each month i dont remember.

If you are tech literate come to I2P, more diversity. In tor all the guards are american, germany or france.

Stay away from freenet if you using it.

*Tor is not that bad, but hidden services is not their priority.


 No.22136

>>22133

Or they physically have your hard drive. Then a DDoS wipe is your best defense.


 No.22137

>>22136

I mean a DoD wipe.


 No.22140

>>22105

i said "if you have to" and i also mentioned that it's not everything (changing some registry entries, vlc, …)

full encryption is ALWAYS bad. if you delete shellbags you can just say that you are afraid of the nsa, with an encrypted system you literally hit them in the face with "i have cp". i guess you know what that means

use tails from an usb stick or sd card and no one will ever know.


 No.22141

>>22140

>with an encrypted system you literally hit them in the face with "i have cp"

Get real. It's bad enough hearing that bullshit from law-and-order types, but you ought to know better.

Apple and MS both provide options for full-disk encryption. Are they catering to pedos?

There are many perfectly legal reasons to encrypt your disks, especially on a laptop, which is more prone to being stolen or lost than a desktop.


 No.22142

I don't keep anything physical on my computers. I keep everything on a microSD card. Backup now is a gun for when the cops show. Either for my activism or my sexuality they're going to regret it.


 No.22145

>>22142

Make sure you have a 7.62x25 or 5.7mm pistol if handgun or some centerfire rifle like a 5.56 or 7.62 so it goes through their body armor.


 No.22150

Before the summer of 2013, the NSA could de-anonymize 80% of the users over a six month period. This means that they could see who you are, but not what you say/download (depending on the site, at least). They also said that it may not be a good idea to scare people away from Tor because of it.

Source: Glenn Greenwalds book on the Snowden documents. I can't find the page, because I would have to look through a quarter of the book, and even if I found the page, you would have to have my version of the book which is not in English.

I suggest that you guys buy a Gluglug (google it) and learn how to do FDE (full disc encryption) properly using dm-crypt and LUKS. Keep the computer that you want to be kept private *very* private. This means that you should set up a strong firewall and not use it for daily browsing.

t. visiting /tech/nophile


 No.22188

>>22135

>Stay away from freenet if you using it.

How so?


 No.25750

>>22135

> Stay away from freenet if you using it.

why


 No.25780

Add a VPN behind Tor. Don't connect to Tor directly with your ISP because your ISP will notice that you are connecting to Tor. And that's not necessarily a good thing because many ISPs feel suspicious if you are connecting to Tor. First connect to a VPN. And then connect to Tor.

So it will be like this.

Your Computer–→Your ISP–→VPN—→Tor

Your ISP will only be able to see that you are connected to a VPN, but they can't see you are connecting to Tor. That's what you should do.

There is nothing wrong with posting stuff on Tor sites. Just don't post any cp. Posting comments on Tor sites is perfectly fine, as long as you don't reveal personal info. Also use encryption if you plan on storing an illegal files on your computer that you find from Tor. Store the illegal files in a hidden volume. Store legal files on the normal volume. Protip. Use hidden volumes to store illegal files. That way you can have plausible deniability. If you are going to store illegal files on your computers, you MUST use hidden volume encryption. Otherwise, you are screwed if someone gets a search warrant on your house.


 No.25781

>>21886

The safest way to visit .onion sites, especially the illegal ones, is to use a hacked wifi. Hack someone else's wifi, and then you used the hacked wifi from your home. There is no other way to be full-proof in terms of safety when browsing the illegal .onion sites which are possibly all government honey pots.


 No.25811

>>25781

Ignore CP being immoral in and of itself but holyshit thats an awful thing. Thats just flat out scumbag evil. You're basically letting an anonymous guy take the fall for you when hes done nothing wrong.


 No.25812

>>25811

CP is healthy for pedophiles. Recommened by serious doctors everywhere. People like him only makes it possible for you to blame it on a hacker if you are sweating because of downloads.


 No.25813

>>25811

There's a huge problem with pedos not taking responsibility for our own actions. This is nothing new.


 No.25815

>>25812

>Recommened by serious doctors everywhere.

find two


 No.25816

>>25815

It doesn't matter. A doctor's advice is something you only need when you're sick. A doctor = A healing

Yeah I know, pedophilia… There are those who think…


 No.25817

>>25816

Paedophilia is a mental illness m8

>inb4 "what is the DSM"


 No.25820


 No.25821

>>25820

paedophiles brains are literally wired differently.


 No.25823

>>25821

I think you meant to say convicted criminal's brains.


 No.25824

>>25821

No they're not. it's just ordinary people with a hard-on for little girls instead of big girls. It's got nothing to do with the brain.

I've read many of your posts here and there is nothing sepcial with your brain. It's ordinary. If you did something you shouldn't, you're a criminal…


 No.25825

>>25823

>>25824

No they've tested on non-offending paedophiles and compared it with offending paedophiles and both groups brains are wired differently.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23399486

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25733379

Read up on James Cantors work.


 No.25826

>>25825

I've read tons of litterature and I tell you who's brain is wired differently; it's Haruki Murakami. Read his novels and you wish you had an unique brain.


 No.25827

>>25826

No nigger its undeniable paedophiles brains are simply different

>Haruki Murakami

who the fuck is this why is he relevant?


 No.25828

>>25827

No they're not different. It's only their cocks that react differently to gays and regular.

I've just read about fart fetish. A girl. Hearing peope that farts make her horny. It's a rare fetish but fetishes aren't rare There are thousands of them. making people honry. And they don't even know why.


 No.25830

>>25827

I forgot too say that i think he is relevant because I love original brains. It's what makes life worth living = People with a "different brain". I love creative people with unique thoughts.


 No.25832

>>25828

>one anon posts citation backing up his claim

>other anon says "nuh-uh"

Who should I believe?

>>25830

Oh, you're the delirious autist from the other threads. Well that settles it.


 No.25834

>>25832

Believe in yourself.

Sounds good. Our conversation are settled and over. Thanks!


 No.25836

>>25827

This board makes it obvious that pedophiles are assholes like most people. So much for being different… I tell you what, being an asshole who meets a woman asshole is okay. They have anal asshole sex and loves it.

But men assholes and cute little girls don't belong together. What I've learned from people at this board is that age of consent may be 18. It's not too high.


 No.25841

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>>25836

I find it cute literally 0post-posters keep saying this board is shit and filled with asshole abusers.

m8, there's literally three people here who post more than once who are relatively assholes while being pedos.

There are dozens of regular, decent, pedos.

>>25825

>James cantors work.

>Work

You mean his delusional studies that (apparently have no bis and) indicate ridiculous things?

You mean the studies that say pedos are apparently "disproportionately left handed," despite us, pedos, virtually never running into someone who is left handed while pedophile?

>>25817

Funny how people actually think the phrase "mental illness" means anything, or that the DSM is more than a magicians handout, despite there being plenty of evidence that the DSM is written with heavy funding from drug companies, institutions, politicians, and other places that reek extreme benefits from certain listings/claims in the book.

Using the fed-sourcing you used >>25825, here's a quote from the most recently DSM, broken up into three parts.

>In DSM-IV, each of the mental disorders is conceptualized as a clinically significant behavioral or psychological syndrome or pattern that occurs in an individual and that is associated with present distress (e.g., a painful symptom) or disability (i.e., impairment in one or more important areas of functioning) or with a significantly increased risk of suffering death, pain, disability, or an important loss of freedom.

In short, unless you're suffering emotional distress or are disabled due to anxiety caused by the illness you claim to suffer from, pedophilia, you are not in fact ill, unless you experience a loss of freedom as a result, which you may argue you do as well.

>In addition, this syndrome or pattern must not be merely an expectable and culturally sanctioned response to a particular event, for example, the death of a loved one. Whatever its original cause, it must currently be considered a manifestation of a behavioral, psychological, or biological dysfunction in the individual.

Oh, wait, no you can't claim that you lose freedom, unless it's part of your anxiety your "illness" caused.

>Neither deviant behavior (e.g., political, religious, or sexual) nor conflicts that are primarily between the individual and society are mental disorders unless the deviance or conflict is a symptom of a dysfunction in the individual, as described above.”

Oh wait, woops, it's not a mental disorder any more than anything else you can imagine is, as it's simply a deviant behavior society disapproves of, a sexual one. Unless you suffer because of it, it's not a mental disorder, nor illness, and even if you do, that's a grey area where I can argue that it's a "culturally sanctioned response to a particular event," such as being outcased and hated indefinitely.

None the less, it's still not a mental disorder for most of us, y'know, the ones who don't hate ourselves, like you appear to.

Thanks DSM, you're such a great source! -you

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3101504/

>>25811

>You'll get some poor normie arrested and imprisoned if you view CP on their wifi, despite leaving no evidence on their computers!

>I can go into any coffee shop and take down a business/corporation.

Who knew!

Thanks, Aryan Lolicon, time to go take down my local hipster coffee shop and some cunt normies who yell at their kids, I never would have thought of this before I saw your post! Thanks buddy!


 No.25845

>>25834

No actually I'll believe in the evidence you tongue slapping retard.


 No.25846

>>25841

>You mean the studies that say pedos are apparently "disproportionately left handed," despite us, pedos, virtually never running into someone who is left handed while pedophile?

Left-handedness is only found in like ~7% of the population, so if 8% of pedos were left handed that is still a disproportionate amount of left handed pedos. and how many fucking pedos have you specifically asked are left handed or not?

oh and btw you calling anyone else delusional is fucking LAUGHABLE


 No.25848

>>25841

>I find it cute literally 0post-posters keep saying this board is shit and filled with asshole abusers.

I don't disagree, but there are such a thing as dynamic IP addresses.

>>25846

>Left-handedness is only found in like ~7% of the population, so if 8% of pedos were left handed that is still a disproportionate amount of left handed pedos. and how many fucking pedos have you specifically asked are left handed or not?

Actually, it's 10% in the general population. Anyway, that's not wouldn't be disproportionate at all. If sampling 100 pedos and observed 14% left-handedness, then for 80% confidence, which is rather low, the value of the entire pedo population should be between 9.5% and 18.5%. A good study would go for at least 95%, confidence, putting the pedo population between 7% and 21%. Either way, it is within the range expected of the general population.

In the actual paper (IQ, Handedness, and Pedophilia in Adult Male Patients Stratified by Referral Source) he claims that it's 25.47%, with a sample size of 832. That's pretty fucking good. Laws are passed on lower sample sizes studies. Even at 99.9% confidence, the lowest value is still twice the general population. I won't bother trying to explain to the retarded tfw that his anecdotes do not trump data though.

More worrying is that the average pedo has only 10.72 years of education. Stay in school, friends.

And much more interesting is how they did this study. To separate true pedos from opportunists, they did that penis-o-graph thing while they read stories. Sample story from the paper:

> Interaction with Prepubescent Female “Your neighbors’ 7-year-old girl is staying

>overnight at your place. You tell her it is time to get ready for bed. She asks if you

>will come and tuck her in. When you go to her room, she is already between the

>covers. You bend over to kiss her on the forehead, but she wraps her arms around

>your neck and pushes her mouth against yours. Giggling, she throws back the covers

>to show you she is naked. You sink to the bed, tenderly pressing your lips against the

>little groove between her legs.”

They also gave the subjects lolies:

>The standard pose used for the full-length front views, illustrated with a pubescent female. The girl herself has been erased from the photograph for the purpose of this article; thus the figure shows the pose but not the model. The (undoctored) image would be presented as one of a set of three (front view, rear view, genital close-up), on three projection screens arranged in the manner of a triptych. As illustrated in the figure, the models are posed in a manner resembling illustrations in a medical text. There is no relation between the uniform, static poses of the models and the various activities described in the accompanying narratives. A female model in this age range would be accompanied by a narrative of the following type: “You are watching a late movie on TV with your neighbors’ 12-year-old daughter. You have your arm around her shoulders, and your fingers brush against her chest. You realize that her breasts have begun to develop…”

Oh wow.


 No.25850

>>25846

>virtually never running into someone who is left handed while pedophile?

I'm one.


 No.25851

>>25848

>that's not wouldn't be

and that's how your entire post got tossed down the drain


 No.25855

>>25850

I'm one too.


 No.25862

>>25841

>You mean the studies that say pedos are apparently "disproportionately left handed," despite us, pedos, virtually never running into someone who is left handed while pedophile?

From what I've seen James Cantor genuinely cares about paedophiles well being and his work. Seriously check his twitter he's a nice guy.

There have been a few studies on the IQ of paedophiles I think 4 or 5 saying paedophiles have normal IQs but these only used like 100-200 people at most Cantor et al. used around 700 (if I remember correctly) which is by far the most. And he used non-offending paedophiles (identified through penile plethysmographs) aswell as offending paedophiles to compare. So It is by far the most reliable.

Yeah you're right not all paedophiles are technically mentally ill, but paedophilia is a mental illness when it causes distress which I expect it does for most people.

>Thanks, Aryan Lolicon, time to go take down my local hipster coffee shop and some cunt normies who yell at their kids, I never would have thought of this before I saw your post! Thanks buddy!

If someone is found visiting CP sites they can be arrested and maybe its not enough evidence in your country and he's let go, his life has still been ruined as a result of it.


 No.25863

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>>25848

> Sample story from the paper:

damn thats hot


 No.25874

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>>25845

>No actually I'll believe in the evidence you tongue slapping retard.

When one uses gloves and kills someone, dumps the murder weapon on someone else, then reports them, while leaving hair from the one with the weapon (now) behind, yet the fellow has an alibi, do you take the evidence as valid, and imprison the one who has the evidence?

No, you make sure it's not faulty/biased.

People who take "evidence" as face value truly are the worst.

>>25846

>Left-handedness is only found in like ~7% of the population, so if 8% of pedos were left handed that is still a disproportionate amount of left handed pedos.

No, if you knew anything about statistics and studies, a margine between 4 -> 11~ % would be considered average. 7% normies 8% pedos is literally meaningless.

>how many fucking pedos have you specifically asked are left handed or not?

It's either came up, or I asked, hundreds. I'd say over a thousand if it wasn't possible some were repeats.

Considering the pools most of these studies use, including cantors I believe, my pool is far larger, and much less biased, as it's not a selected one, but rather one that randomly stepped forward out of pedo communities.

I'd throw up a poll on here right now if I wasn't sure your whiny ass, and the couple others who constantly whine about me, wouldn't simply poison the poll.

>>25848

>but there are such a thing as dynamic IP addresses.

I know, but they don't switch every time you use your computer or post.

They certainly don't every time you post.

But that appears to be the case.

It's just too convenient.

>In the actual paper (IQ, Handedness, and Pedophilia in Adult Male Patients Stratified by Referral Source) he claims that it's 25.47%, with a sample size of 832.

Can you remind me where he found these 832 friendly adult male pedophiles?

I don't believe he used prisons, however, it's always struck me as quite strange how he found so many willing participants.

I'm not saying he lied about his results, I'm just saying his results weren't conducted in a proper way and left plenty of room for bias or faulty assumptions.

>More worrying is that the average pedo has only 10.72 years of education. Stay in school, friends.

Just curious, was this said to support his claims of pedos being of "lesser intelligence?"

Or was it just a casual "oh by the way, pedos can't stay in school :^)"

>To separate true pedos from opportunists, they did that penis-o-graph thing while they read stories.

Truly laughable.

They did the same thing to gays and other "deviants," including pedos, way back when, and it was not effective at measuring anything other than general arousal, which may not even be regarding the test "material."

This being said, for the first thing, unless someone is already aroused and dick-in-handing it, they likely aren't going to get aroused regardless.

Regarding the second green-text block, that sounds like it's explicitly catering to non-pedos.

Which you may say that'll weed out nons, but what about non-exclusives, filthy degenerates, and others?

Really, look into the dick-o-graphs.

They're horrible trash that proves literally nothing.

Yes I know you didn't say it's right, but none the less, it's not "interesting" to me, it's just more garbage.

>>25851

>He pointed out how I'm being delusional

>Oh nooooooo!


 No.25876

>>25874

>I'm just saying his results weren't conducted in a proper way and left plenty of room for bias or faulty assumptions.

Your evidence for this is?

>It's either came up, or I asked, hundreds. I'd say over a thousand if it wasn't possible some were repeats.

>Considering the pools most of these studies use, including cantors I believe, my pool is far larger, and much less biased, as it's not a selected one, but rather one that randomly stepped forward out of pedo communities.

Oh my fucking lord you actually believe your insane delirious made up bullshit is more valid than an actual published study that laid out it's methodology in full. Holy shit you are insane.

>He pointed out how I'm being delusional

I was making a joke you autistic retard. And his entire post was pointing out how YOU are being delusional.


 No.25877

>>25874

>they likely aren't going to get aroused regardless.

Oh and btw you have zero clue how the procedure works if you actually think this.

It doesn't measure your fucking boner you idiot, it can detect minute changes in blood pressure.


 No.25878

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>>25876

>Your evidence for this is?

>m-muh evidence!

My evidence for this is the same (that) one may have if one had a murder-weapon planted on them and their hair on the scene.

Just a simple suspicion, that hey, maybe seeing as this guy has an alibi, or because the methods to come up with such results were outdated or outright invalid, or because of the test takers, there may just be something more to this investigation.

If you knew much about the guidelines that you're supposed to follow when conducting studies, or the methods they used in them and the science behind them, you'd understand why they aren't exactly evidence, at least evidence that points to the problem, such as the murderer in the case of the murder weapon.

>Rest

Awfully defensive and autistic.

Great job, m80.

>>25877

>It doesn't measure your fucking boner you idiot, it can detect minute changes in blood pressure.

I didn't say it did.

Again, if you knew the science behind it and how it is used, you'd know it is really not valid whatsoever.

And for your information, blood pressure indicates arousal to some extent, and blood pressure causes boners to some extent regardless, thus both arguments are correct to some degree, although the one you're projecting appears to be less developed.

>>25862

>James Cantor genuinely cares about paedophiles well being and his work.

How exactly?

From what I have seen it appears that he's just trying to be a friendly face to validate the same flawed bullshit they've pulled from prisons previously, just another "by the way pedos are literally sub-human" type of fellow.

>(identified through penile plethysmographs

As I said in my last two posts as well, these aren't very accurate or trustworthy and are generally meaningless, especially in the way it appears he conducted them.

There's a reason why they're not "admissible in court cases in the United States." If you want to know why, just look it up, even on wikipedia.

In short, it's very inaccurate and has almost no scientific basis for it being correct, and it can me manipulated easily, both by the test givers, and the test takers.

This is also not mentioning how the testing materials cited in >>25848 may incite erections/arousal in many non-pedos due to, quite simply, a power dynamic and/or the innocent destruction potential and/or the lack of sexual release in a patient.

It can also not incite erections in many pedos, like myself, or any sort of arousal due to not being as sexual as others, due to potential medicine/mood, due to not liking the situation, due to thinking of the situation in a bland intellectual way, etc.

It's really just not accurate no matter how you look at it, and there's huge holes in such a testing method, so much so that I, and many others, including scientific/law/etc, basically consider it a worthless trash test.

>So It is by far the most reliable.

Not when the other tests used more accurate measuring tools.

>Yeah you're right not all paedophiles are technically mentally ill, but paedophilia is a mental illness when it causes distress which I expect it does for most people.

Does it cause distress because you like kids, or does it cause distress because you hate yourself and think you're a mistake? I never felt distress till I was suffocated in normie-hate and indoctrination. I just loved little girls.

That seems to be the case virtually always, if not literally always, as you wanting to cuddle a little girl and make them feel happy, and possibly rub your dickles on them, isn't some kind of mental illness. What is a mental illness is depression, self-hate, anxiety, etc, which is caused by how society is.

Which if you read what I quoted, it suggests that if society is to blame for some of the effects, or all, it may not be an illness at all.

I mean, tell me, did you naturally hate yourself, or think it's wrong to do things with kids sexually, or were you told that till you believed it?


 No.25880

>>25878

Fully transparent study study versus the indignant non sequitur of a delirious babyfucker. Study wins.

>if you knew the science behind it and how it is used, you'd know it is really not valid whatsoever.

http://www.forensicpsych.ca/phallometric-testing.php

>Generally, the plethysmograph is recognized as the best objective measure of male sexual arousal because blood flow into the penis is the only measure of sexual arousal that doesn't seem to be influenced by other factors. The objective ability to measure penile arousal has helped the plethysmograph evolve into one of the important tests in the assessment and treatment of male sex offenders.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penile_plethysmograph#Reliability_and_validity

>In 1998, Hanson and Bussière published a comprehensive meta-analysis of 61 scientific reports on the prediction of sexual offenses spanning more than 40,000 individual cases. They ascertained that of all the methods attempted and reported, penile phethysmographic responses to imagery depicting children was the single most accurate predictor of sexual re-offense across 7 studies reporting data from phallometric testing.[2] Another meta-analysis in 2005 of 13 studies and 2,180 individual cases repeated the finding that phallometric responses to children was a strong predictor of sexual re-offense.[15]

Where's your "science", you fucking idiot?


 No.25881

>>25878

>There's a reason why they're not "admissible in court cases in the United States." If you want to know why, just look it up, even on wikipedia.

>More recently, a substantial amount of research data has been gathered and reviewed, and significant steps have been taken toward standardization.[citation needed] According to Launay (1999), "[T]he validity of the technique for research and clinical assessment is now established;"[36] it is only the use in guilt-determination proceedings that is inappropriate.

So in other words, you can't use it to determine guilt, but everyone agrees it's completely valid for study and post sentencing use.

You're barely grasping on to the tiniest straw.


 No.25882

>>25880

>>25881

>I can nitpick parts of an article while redacting other parts and find a source that counters yours

Great job, friend.


 No.25883

Where are the good links? I haven't been on TOR since OPVA and LC went down


 No.25885

>>25855

Another one here.


 No.25886

>>25882

>I can't post anything at all.

If it's repeatable, it's valid. They've repeated, repeated, repeated, and repeated it. It's valid.


 No.25905

>>25851

Fuck yourself.

>>25863

It's way better than I would have expected a normie to write, that's for sure.

>>25874

>No, if you knew anything about statistics and studies, a margine between 4 -> 11~ % would be considered average. 7% normies 8% pedos is literally meaningless.

Just no. The percentage of left-handed people is a proportion, not an average. Averages aren't even percents. Getting the proportion of pedos is hard, but getting the proportion of the general population is easy. You could easy get 20K samples, which even at 99.9% confidence would get you an interval of 7%±0.59% (99.9% confidence that the true value of the entire population is in that range). To get your margin, the sample size would be around a hundred, which is pathetic given how easy it would be.

>It's either came up, or I asked, hundreds. I'd say over a thousand if it wasn't possible some were repeats.

Bullshit.

>Considering the pools most of these studies use, including cantors I believe, my pool is far larger, and much less biased, as it's not a selected one, but rather one that randomly stepped forward out of pedo communities.

You know nothing about sampling or statistics. You're a fucking retard and you're making shit up.

>Can you remind me where he found these 832 friendly adult male pedophiles?

Remind you? I don't believe for a fucking second that you actually read the paper. I doubt you could navigate an academic database even if you had access to one, and even you aren't retarded enough to pay the $40 price for it.

>I'm not saying he lied about his results, I'm just saying his results weren't conducted in a proper way and left plenty of room for bias or faulty assumptions.

Why is complaining about the methodology always what people who want something to be false do? Anyway….

>Truly laughable. They did the same thing to gays and other "deviants," including pedos, way back when, and it was not effective at measuring anything other than general arousal, which may not even be regarding the test "material."

Irrelevant. The point was to separate the subjects into groups (normie, rapist, pedo, hebe,….) based on how aroused they were during the preliminary test. The outliers were discarded. They also discarded non-whites because they could be "over- or underrepresented among certain diagnostic groups

for sociological reasons", which presumably meant that there was a fuckload of black rapists in the initial pool.

There does appear to be a bias towards retards with the IQ:

>These were the 321 patients referred by their parole and probation officers and the 164 patients referred by their own lawyers. The remaining 347 patients were treated in this study as a miscellaneous group, and their referral source was designated as “Other.” The other-referred group comprised patients referred by legal aid lawyers (n=4), by institutions (n=211), and by physicians (n=132). Neither of the two larger groups was really homogeneous. Referring institutions ranged from group homes for mentally retarded persons to regulatory bodies for health or educational professionals. The single largest subgroup, prisoners referred by correctional institutions ( n =105), was not large enough for our purposes when other grouping variables and the resultant cell sizes for our planned analyses of covariance (see later) were taken into account. Careful consideration of the physician-referred group revealed that they were heterogeneous in a somewhat different way. Mentally retarded patients were referred by their physicians at the instigation of their families or other third parties, whereas the more intelligent patients typically initiated the referral themselves by asking their physicians to arrange a specialist consultation.

But that is irrelevant since we are focusing on the handiness.

Unless you want to argue that left-hand correlates with retardation, which I have never seen evidence of.


 No.25906

>>25874

Oh, and a properly sampled study with samples is far superior to your shitty one (that I doubt ever happened) with it's much larger size. https://www.math.upenn.edu/~deturck/m170/wk4/lecture/case1.html


 No.25961

>encryption can be broken

> Nice try, FBI.

The hardware is backdoored. Vpro /VT/ AMT.


 No.26334

>>21886

Most CP on Tor sucks anyway, old video tapes with no audio and low quality. The only good thing you may find is some professional made CP like LS or Siberian Mouse, but it's not worth it.


 No.26340

>>25811

Perhaps he meant in a better way something like a public or whatnot wifi. As opposed to using your neighbors wifi.


 No.26594

File: 1438548702210.jpg (13.2 KB, 253x199, 253:199, 1437610201783.jpg)

>Tor. Dont fuck it up!

>From Defcon22

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J1q4Ir2J8P8


 No.26610

>>26334

Not sure where else you'de find it except i2p


 No.26612

You get nothing good unless you download from tor. How can I safely download from tor?




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