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 No.26054

Are you in the pro or anti contact camp when it comes to loli's?

Pro = All consensual sex should be allowed.

Anti = No sexual contact should be allowed regardless of if the loli wants it.

Personally I'm pro contact.

 No.26057

Pro all the way. There are antis here so get ready for their rage lol


 No.26061

No touching.


 No.26073

>>26054

Atleast half the board is pro-contact, antis make up a mere fifth of the board while the rest feel consent belongs to some third party


 No.26076

>>26073

I seriously seriously doubt half or even a quarter of the posters here think you should just be able to do whatever as long as you can manage to get the kid to say yes.

The majority of the board is pro for some but not all consensual sex, and even then only with MEANINGFUL consent. OPs post is basically asking if you're ok with fucking any child from age zero, as long as you get them to "consent" which could be anything from a baby mindlessly nodding its head to getting a 7 y/o to say yes to a brutal anal gangbang in exchange for money or gifts or something.


 No.26077

>>26076

just quoting the poll results from some weeks back:

>>25185

>>25747

>>25751

consent is a variety of things to different people, vague as OP's post makes it, any form of "consent" could apply


 No.26090

>>26077

That was a multi choice poll, meaning the people who chose by child's consent also almost certainly chose one or more of the other choices as well. Obviously most people here think you at least need the child's consent, so everyone who is at least slightly pro child sex is going to pick that choice, and conversely the only people who wouldn't choose it are the complete antis, or possibly people who misunderstood how the poll worked.


 No.26091

Anti 100%.


 No.26092

anti


 No.26095

Neutral.

Some, ideally, should be allowed and not shamed or punished or anything, but not all.

And it'd depend on what type of consent, if any (as you don't mention it), you receive.

Shit like >>26057 shitposts about wouldn't be allowed, ever, in my opinion, or rather, shouldn't be. Little girls don't like being pseudo-raped and choked, sorry, they just don't, naturally at least. That's not how they are 99.9% of the time.

But light touching and/or licking or rubbing of any sorts, in general, in a relationship, should definitely be allowed in my opinion. That is, once society changes to be more "kind" to lolis about sex.

>>26076

>as you can manage to get the kid to say yes.

This, manage, a key word.

I'd say less than 1/10th of the posters can, really likely 1/20th knowing the amount of users here.


 No.26097

>>26095

>But light touching and/or licking or rubbing of any sorts, in general, in a relationship, should definitely be allowed in my opinion.

I still think you should make sure the child knows what the relationship really is.

Society being paranoid about child sex or not, it's definitely not fun regardless of age to think you have a genuine relationship with someone only to find out they either weren't being honest with you about why they were touching you, or they were just flat out lying to you in order to bust a nut. I think a lot of pedos would just assume the child understands and is actually consenting when they're really just complying with sexual advances because they want to make their adult friend happy.


 No.26129

>>26057

Yeah I know there's anti's here, and people who feel any pedo that would do something with a loli should be shot even though they are pedo's themselves. I never understood that logic.

>>26076

>I seriously seriously doubt half or even a quarter of the posters here think you should just be able to do whatever as long as you can manage to get the kid to say yes.

No, I don't think a simple "yes" is all that sexual activity should be based on. They should also be capable of physically handling it.


 No.26131

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Penetration could be very damaging. But I think kissing, rubbing, tickling, oral sex, finger/hand pleasure, kink play, and relationships themselves should be fine if the loli wants it and isnt being coerced (which is the biggest problem).


 No.26132

>>26129

You should also use fair and honest judgement to determine how the activity might emotionally effect them later in life.

>>26131

Like I said, a lot of pedos would probably think to themselves that there isn't any coercion going on when there really is.

Like if the girl initiates contact that isn't an instant go-ahead, you should make sure she knows what she's doing (for real) and that it isn't the after effects of prior abuse.

And also, let's face the elephant in the room here, if you're ugly or even not that attractive the likelihood of the girl growing up to be ashamed and feel hurt by what she did with you rises significantly.


 No.26134

>>26132

The thing is, in my case im actually pretty good looking all around and not gruff or intimidating. I have tact and compassion as well. Im pretty perceptive to when someone is uncomfortable.

For me it would be a very slow process starting with deep emotional connections and trust. Most if not all stuff we would do would not even be necessarily sexual. Like cuddling or tickling. Honestly even that would be enough to satisfy me, especially if I didnt feel she could progress past that.

The problem being, a huge percent of ped/hebs are not like that. and they just decide to randomly whip out their dick to their cousin or something.


 No.26135

>>26132

This isn't science, man. Or statistics. It's love, and lust. Let's say that you sit on the couch with a little girl and things start to happen. You can do it or cancel it. Now or never.

Maybe she will love you or hate you. Things runs through your head… Yes, No…


 No.26137

>>26135

Go be a fucking cringy autist somewhere else holy shit.


 No.26139

>>26095

WTF? I don't choke little girls. Psuedo rape? Shit some of you make up things. Do you even talk to girls IRL? I doubt it. Some of them have seen porn (not because of me), i don't rape them. I don't ever incite anything, they come on to me. I find it arousing when they come on to me. I like them being in charge, I must do as they ask…

Everything i do they tell me what they want. You guys have such weird ideas of little girls. Culture differences perhaps. You think every single little girl is the same? No variation? That all have to deal with the same thing? Brown girls mature faster, I've seen this first hand. I have limits and turned down advances. Odd the self hate here. It is like heterosexual who act like sex is supposed to be their way and other ways is immoral

If consent is involved and no medical issues nor damage happens what is the problem?

Also why are you telling them what they want? If you believe kids can consent yet back off and act like that can't which is it? It can't be both now.

>>26129

I am surprised by the amount of antis here. What do they want? I'm sure that if it is not sexual or child brides then what they want is legal. Besides true consent is there then shouldn't we be on the same page? Our sexual orientation seems more policed. I personally don't believe our sexuality is worse than any other. Besides most child molesters aren't even pedophiles they are just rapists.

Perhaps my name offends the antis here.


 No.26140

>>26137

I'm sick and tired of you. You're more often here than the pedos. It's like I should spend twelve hours a day on a gay board to tell them that I'm not gay and dislike their sex.


 No.26142

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>>26139

yea it does offend people here because it makes you come across as a psychotic child rapist.

our sexuality is potentially worse than others because children are more delicate than adults and the social stigma compounds any negative outcome. consent is more than just saying yes, you need to understand the reasoning behind it. if she's just going along with it to impress you, that isn't true consent. if she's initiating contact herself you need to figure out if she's only doing it because she was abused and thinks affection or love = sex.

>>26140

yea why don't you go fucking do that, because everyone else here is fucking sick and tired of you. you're the exact stereotype normies have for delusional autistic pedos.


 No.26171

>>26090

Each choice is independent of the next, as per >>25808

But even if there was overlap, there's no arguing that over half the board agrees that consensual sex with kids is alright. And if atleast half the board is pro, and 1/5 is anti, what could the remainder possibly be? Definitely not anti, they would have increased the anti score if they were.


 No.26178

>>26139

>I am surprised by the amount of antis here. What do they want? I'm sure that if it is not sexual or child brides then what they want is legal. Besides true consent is there then shouldn't we be on the same page? Our sexual orientation seems more policed. I personally don't believe our sexuality is worse than any other. Besides most child molesters aren't even pedophiles they are just rapists.

You would think we'd all be on the same page but that doesn't seem to be the case. Some pedo's think a child should have the same knowledge an adult has when it comes to sexual activity or it shouldn't be allowed. I don't base such activity on societies belief that there's a magical arbitrary age where a day before that age sex is bad, but after that, sex is good.

Besides that, do girls in different parts of the country mature faster than others? In one state, the AoC may be 15, while in another it's 18. Why the disparity?


 No.26181

>>26178

Yeah then they name call. They have so much self hate. They believe the media hype that we are inherently evil. Most pedophiles actually care for the kids. Hell my great grandmother was 11 when she started having kids. She turned out fine. Plus i think parents should be involved if the antis are so worried. If her parents say she is ready at 11 are we going to name call and insult them too? What if the girl went to doctors, went to talk to sex therapists…..is she ready now?


 No.26200

>>26171

>Each choice is independent of the next

most of the pro choices logically include the child consent choice as a prerequisite, do you really think anyone clicked on parental consent without also clicking on child consent?

like i said, most of the board is pro SOME kind of consensual sexual activity, but i'm also sticking to my guns that most people here aren't ok with being able to do absolutely whatever as long as you can get the child to "consent".

>>26178

all of the states AoC are still well above prepubescent. when someone becomes a responsible adult is muddy, but all the normies understand completely crystal clear that they dont want prepubescents having sex.

>>26181

>Hell my great grandmother was 11 when she started having kids. She turned out fine.

you're a fucking imbecile. your grandma put herself an an extreme health risk and would have been better off NOT having kids at 11. that is a fucking medical fact, you dipshit.


 No.26202

>>26200

There was a guy who advocated fathers being the only one who should decide who their kids marry, and there are also some solid hurtcore types here as well, not to mention incest and allowing parents to fuck their kids was more accepted in the poll than boyfuckers. There's a significant bunch here who think the consent belongs somewhere else, not the majority but atleast as much as antis.

Refer to >>25808 again. Everyone sees the poll, everyone reads all options. If people were really against child sex they'd select either of the bottom two anti choices and either of the two anti scores would have been higher. But they're not, they're just a fifth of total votes. You're a minority, deal with it.


 No.26204

>>26202

>There was a guy who advocated fathers being the only one who should decide who their kids marry

one poster

>and there are also some solid hurtcore types here as well

no there weren't, there was a guy with hurtcore fantasies. that doesnt mean he would do it irl

>There's a significant bunch here who think the consent belongs somewhere else

i disagree, from my experience there's basically no one here who thinks consent doesn't matter, and the ones who think that are al;most certainly trolling shitposters, but even if i do give you the benefit of the doubt thats still just a few posters.

and im not an anti either you fucking retard holy shit you are so fucking stupid. you have zero fucking reading comprehension.


 No.26207

>>26204

>and im not an anti either you fucking retard holy shit you are so fucking stupid. you have zero fucking reading comprehension.

Did your grandmother die in the time it took you to learn how to read basic stat charts? Or did you take it yourself to look like something went up your asshole?

Whatever else you said doesn't matter, the poll results speak for themselves, the prevalence of vocal minorities such as yourself, irrelevant, no matter how much you want to justify it with your anecdotal samefag detector.

As long as each result is independent of the next, the measure of anti options and the measure of the consensual child sex option's results determine the overall demographic as there's little overlap between the two. 52%+22%=74% If you don't agree to consensual sex, and you don't agree to no sex at all, then what the fuck could the missing 26% be? You don't need to be a mongoloid to know the math.


 No.26210

>>26207

>the poll results speak for themselves

yea they do, they say that only just over half the board is ok with any type of sexual contact at all, and most of that 50% want more requirements than just the child saying yes. unless you are so astronomically fucking stupid that you think the people who chose chose child consent didn't choose ANY of the other options,. although you clearly are since you think the choices are independent of each other when they're all included in the same fucking poll where anyone reading one choice would also be reading the other choices. you are so fucking disgustingly stupid, you seriously believe 30% of this board thinks parents should be able to rape their children without the childs consent.


 No.26211

You're seriously trying to imply that 26% of the poll respondents support literal child rape.


 No.26221

>>26097

>it's definitely not fun regardless of age to think you have a genuine relationship with someone only to find out they either weren't being honest with you about why they were touching you, or they were just flat out lying to you in order to bust a nut.

Well of course not.

Personally I think such "relationships" shouldn't be allowed regardless. If someone uses some kid, in my opinion, they should get some of, if not, the largest punishment/"treatment."

I don't think those relationships are good despite your age, and people will nearly always regret them, not to mention they're almost entirely due to society's degeneration over the years and a sex-based culture becoming the norm.

>>26134

>they just decide to randomly whip out their dick to their cousin or something.

I really have begun believing they aren't pedos.

I'd take a hard look at these people and really try to figure out if they are pedos. What I've seen is that they nearly never are. They're usually just classic degenerates or normies with fetishes that went out of control, rather than genuinely just finding the girls attractive physically (or emotionally).

Hebes are somewhat like that, but usually to non-related girls. Pedos aren't from what I've seen, as we still have parental instincts that prevent us from being as vapid about sex.

>>26135

You should love her enough to say no while being nice to her about it, as to not risk the relationship you two have.

If you don't, you shouldn't be around her.

If she starts doing whatever the hell you consider an advance, say, getting on your lap and rubbing back in forth and trying to kiss you, kiss her, give her a big hug and tell her we can't.

She shouldn't be upset. You shouldn't be upset.

>>26139

Seeing as you didn't get what I said, you clearly aren't a native English speaker. I'm guessing you're south American based on how you speak and describe.

Yes, there are cultural differences in such a case, down there little girls, or soon-to-be teenagers are taught to dance in a sexual way and generally try to be arousing to normies. I think it's disgusting personally, I hate south American culture, specifically Brazil, in this sense.

As I said though, the vast majority of girls aren't like that anywhere - wanting to be hurt. Not all are the same, but that 0.01% that like being hurt, if even that, likely aren't that way naturally. They were abused, like you described.

That doesn't mean you should continue that abuse, it means you should try to heal it and be gentle to them, to get them to see there's more than just pain that they think they either deserve or can only be pleased by.


 No.26222

pedos like to cry about antis lumping them all together, but i think most pedos here lump all antis into one category themselves. there's a lot of different stupid and maybe not so stupid reasons to be anti

a lot of antis probably dont think sex is intrinsically bad, but think too many adults would abuse legal sex with children to make it worth it for the few who dont abuse it.


 No.26235

>>26222

If someone has sex with loli and loli moans and loves it, you can call it abuse or whatever dirty words you can find, it doesn't matter becasue it's none of your business. You weren't invited to watch and have an opinion about it.

Get a life! Of your own…


 No.26238

>>26235

When you commit a crime, you don't hurt just one person, but the entire country. It is everyone's business.


 No.26251

>>26238

Just because something is illegal does not mean it is just and vice versa. Owning slaves slaves was legal just like lynching and hate crimes were legal. It was illegal for slaves to read and write or illegal for Blacks to go to "white only" places. Gay marriage was illegal. Gay sex was illegal. Etc. The law is not always moral, fair and just.


 No.26252

>>26200

If that was true then i guess humanity should have died off. Girls have babies in their teens they turn out fine. People need to stop acting like girls are fragile and weak.

>>26221

Nope not USA and White!!! You sound racist as hell. Not just dancing but Black girls and girls mixed with Black sexually mature sooner. Biological they are different.

I don't need to insult you or any culture to make point. You miss understand me as well. I'm not hurting any girls. Why do antis speak for girls they don't even know (or in your case when you have racial/culture hate for them???). I don't mess with abused girls, nor would i continue it. They aren't in pain. You are speaking as if you are their social worker when you don't know them. Besides it rare that "rough" sex happens and its not rough but naughty.


 No.26259

>>26238

You are not an example of anyhting good in this world. You're just a moron who think you are.

Dissappear from the face of the earth and let life enjoy your non-existence. You are dead inside already.


 No.26261

>>26210

Are you actually fucking retarded or do you think being incompetent in basic math gives you points? You can't make 1+1=3, you can't make 3/4 become 4/4, and you sure as hell can't just wave away a 26% gap because of your feelings. You have to literally fail middle school to not understand independent options, you fucking tard. If you have 10 yes or no answers lined up in a row, and you can only answer "yes" or "no" to each of them, then you have '''10 independent choices". The percentage of each point does not fucking affect the next. A braindead kid could understand that.

It's understood that half the board wants to fuck kids with consent. It's understood that 4/5 of the board isn't a fucking anti. Since antis would definitely not support fucking kids in the first place, they wouldn't choose any kid fucking options, which is why the overlap between retards who chose both these options is negligible. Which is exactly why their results can be fucking tallied up. And since theres a fucking 26% gap excluding both, way over a negligible percentage, you'd have to be digging real deep into your morals and feelings to convince yourself to look like a complete idiot. Go back to kindergarten. Start over before you forget how to breath.

>>26211

I'm trying to teach a numerical retard something he should have learnt when he was 15 years younger by pointing out that 26% agree to neither fucking kids with consent, nor not fucking kids at all, meaning they believe in fucking kids by some other metric, consent be damned.


 No.26263

>>26238

We can all speak on behalf of everybody / nobody. If YOU don't have something interesting to contribute to a discussion, please leave…


 No.26268

>>26252

Having high maternal mortality rates isn't going to kill off humanity, but it isn't good either. Over the past years, that number has dropped dramatically, in no part due to the idea that teenagers shouldn't have children.


 No.26269

>>26268

That is due too poor medical care, better education and medical care means less death. Not saying all 11 year olds or all teens should have kids.


 No.26303

>>26269

Less death? There can only be more death… because more people are born to the world and everything that lives will die.


 No.26306

>>26303

Yes, in the end everyone has to die, but with education, medicine and technology we can decrease the rates at which people die. Just because you have to die doesn't mean you can't live a long and happy life.


 No.26308

>>26306

I'm exited about how the human body and brain will be in 20-30/50 years, after a life in front of computers and screens.

I'm afraid of doctors who can keep me alive with techology, while my life is a hell and I wished i was dead.

Getting old is no holiday. Unless you want to sit in a diaper and wonder where you are.


 No.26310

>>26306

I bet in the future technolgy will be more restricted. One can aldready see damages from the computer life. But it's still very new. I bet in 30 years time computers and cellphones will be treated like cigarettes are now.

Not because it will make verything better. Iy never does. Change only pave the way for new things and new diseases.


 No.26321

>>26261

>It's understood that half the board wants to fuck kids with consent.

That's fucking odd because the poll also says only 28% want the right to have sex with children at all

>Since antis would definitely not support fucking kids in the first place, they wouldn't choose any kid fucking options

read the fucking post of the guy who made the poll you worthless fucking piece of shit

"Also, it's quite possible for someone to agree with stances for and against, and people are quite hypocritical. If you thought, "I don't think an adult should ever have sex with a kid unless it's by the parents decision and that alone", then you could easily choose both "by the parent's decision" and "I don't believe adults should have sex with children", because the latter represents your general stance, while the former represents an exception you believe in."

the poll is fucking broken. if you clicked child consent but didn't click fucking kids at all, you broke the poll. if you clicked that you're an anti, and also clicked any of the other options, you broke the fucking poll. the creators hypocrisy argument is fucking stupid and doesnt work. you never create a poll that says "no unless" you only create a poll that says "yes if". anything else is fucking broken.

you're an imbecile and the poll is garbage. 26% of the board does not support literal child rape. kill yourself.


 No.26357

>>26321

Great, so you've proven that you're a bona fide idiot through and through, and definitely place in the autism spectrum IQ as well.

>it's quite possible for someone to agree with stances for and against

Use that tiny brain of yours to read, Quite possible=/=quite likely. There wouldn't be a huge 26% overlap between the two, there wouldn't even be a fucking 5% overlap between the two. A 5% difference would imply there were 8 numbnuts dumb enough to be complete hypocrites, while 26% implies 42 people are both antis and would still fuck children. You can't understand numbers, you don't have the grey matter to achieve that.

> says only 28% want the right to have sex with children at all

>if you clicked child consent but didn't click fucking kids at all, you broke the poll.

>"Righs to have sex with children"

You mean the option that implies, "I as a pedo deserve to fuck kids nomatter what"? Congratulations, you just pointed out that as many as 28% may want to fuck kids without consent. As long as you can't submit data without selecting anything, the poll is solid as it should be. You're a fucking idiot who doesn't know how polls work, and you have nothing to defend yourself but your incorrect opinions.

>you're an imbecile and the poll is garbage. 26% of the board does not support literal child rape.

And what imaginary data do you have? Your incorrect gut feelings? Your blind insistence? The poll has more truth than anything you could think up in that daft head of yours and you're just mentally incapable of reading basic statistics. Castrate yourself, remove yourself from the gene pool, you don't deserve the sweet mercy of death.

Saging to avoid a reply too, eh? Getting scared of humiliating yourself further?




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