/younglove/ - Pedophilia Discussion

damn it guy, quit sabotaging my post

theres nothing in what i said about large groups or public places or not using forums on the internet or normies.

your picture isnt helping ether

>>27278

And what have you done recently?

>>27262

>are there other places like /younglove/ that arent so much about preaching to the choir

That statement tells me you're looking for places where people gather that aren't pedos themselves. Otherwise, on boards with pedos, you're preaching to the choir.

>>27327

while it would be nice to be able to bring up and talk about pedophilia with other groups of people (its actually something i havent been able to do in ages and actually kinda miss,though it really doesnt amount to much for the cause and just leaves you looking suspicious, especially when you actually have something to be worried about going to jail for)…

what i meant with preaching to the choir is that alot of posts seem like they are looking for approval from other pedophiles or trying to convince them about stuff most of us are on page with. or are things alot of us are aware about. almost like they just discovered they were pedophiles or that others could be contacted

though,looking back at it, it was unfair to say "preaching to the choir" since those kinds of posts are noticeable but not that prevelant.

im sorry.

no one has named any other place. the thought that younglove is the best out there is despairing

>>27356

some of it is practice for if/when they talk to normies, a lot of it is desperate self validation where they're more trying to convince themselves than anyone else

a lot of posters are here simply to crowd-source their own egos

>>27357

You can try www.annabelleigh.net (AKA Girl Chat)

or

www.visionsofalice.com (AKA VOA)

>>27362

Girlchat is a bunch of old men circlejerking over their collective self pity. VoA is so super sweet it will give you a headache and diabetes. So it is true, /younglove/ really is the best that there is.

>>27388

Then it looks like there is no "perfect" site for you. If you're going to nitpick every other sites faults, start your own.

>>27396

op mentions only caring about pedophile movements, wanting less of a social support club for pedos and not being able to start anything himself.

things i guess girlchat and voa cant help with.

>>27403

There are no pedophile movements, all are dying or dead. Pedos are more concerned about getting their next source of fap material and trying to fuck girls under the table than actually gaining the rights to do these things legally. They have this flawed mentality that some 3rd party will come up and fight for their rights for them like what the homosexuals got.

>>27459

Actually, that third party exists.

Who is it?

The girls and boys themselves, who are buzy little bees, producing a tidalwave of CP, making first laws about possessing CP impossible to uphold (this has allready happened: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11174715/Thousands-of-paedophiles-will-escape-justice-crime-chief-admits.html), next impossible to maintain (happening: http://mjlr.org/2014/10/27/sexting-prosecutions-minors-as-a-protected-class-from-child-pornography-charges/), and finally, acceptance of minor sexuality.

Simply from the sheer amount of it all.

And god, is there a tonne out there.

A metric fuck-tonne, you might say.

So I don't worry, and spend my time on working at other things than direct pedo / hebe acceptance.

>>27459

younglove is kinda popular and 8chan is full of pedos apparently, so maybe we could organize here ?

>>27467

>So I don't worry, and spend my time on working at other things than direct pedo / hebe acceptance.

you, you are exactly the flawed person 27459 is talking about.

also, what other things? how can you not worry? unless you are already set with a kid i can't see how you couldn't. wouldn't you want to be able to legally court a girl while youre still young and able bodied?

also not being able to stop a prevent "crime" doesnt mean anything when it comes to legalizing it , look how long it too weed and weed is common as hell

kids taking pictures of themselves isnt doing anything ether. its no secret to anyone that they do sexual things even antis … while some how remaining strongly anti … acknowledge it.

we have a culture that takes pleasure in punishing kids for it, pride in restricting it and pleasure in thinking that they were cleaner than the new generation. which kids sexting would only encourage. now im not against them sexting ,they should keep at it ! but its stupid to think that them sexting is making any real difference.

>>27467

Those are not movements but related phenomena, none of the related individuals share a common cause that would lead to giving pedophiles rights. These just give loopholes that would lead to pedos becoming even more sedentary while still being under the mercy of the law, like how pedos in Brazil don't give a fuck because they can fuck girls illegally around every corner.

>>27504

Read the catalog, numerous threads have been made that just fizzle out. You can also have a look at >>>/youngtimes/ and >>>/pedotalk/, both evidence of pedo movements fizzling out. The problem is that the pedos that are motivated are just idea guys, while the pedos that have the skillset to make a difference fall into the "let someone else do it for me" category. If you're really into it, you can try making a new board or try reviving a dead movement.

>>27504

>how can you not worry?

I did explain that to you, not repeating myself to someone who can't bother capitalizing letters.

>wouldn't you want to be able to legally court a girl while youre still young and able bodied?

That's not going to happen, for a number of reasons:

1. I'm not really pro-contact

2. There are more important things in life than sex (although I'm more than good on that score, thanks)

3. I've got normie friends that accept me and that I respect and I don't want to lose them

4. I'm actually involved with work that makes this world a better place, and I'd like to focus on that primarily thanks

5. Best we can do for now, is push Prevention Project Dunkelfeld like approaches, and call for less condemnation of young pedos

The wheels of change turn slowly, but I'm quite confident that I can see changes in the future.

Then again, I live in an area of the world which is progressive, so.

Also stop thinking with your dicks and start doing something usefull for others for a start or nobody will have any sympathy for you and you can forget about acceptance from anybody.

> look how long it too weed and weed is common as hell

My point. Not going to happen in your lifetime, so let it go and work for something better that actually /can/ change in your lifetime - if you're not just a bleeding one-trick pony hypocrite thinking with your dick, of course.

> kids taking pictures of themselves isnt doing anything ether

Try reading links next time gg

> but its stupid to think that them sexting is making any real difference.

From the guy who hasn't even bothered to use the SHIFT key. Weak, man.

>>27467

"Simply from the sheer amount of it all."

Exactly. Everything's been criminalized so now they're going after everything, which means they're making it impossible to get anything done. Listen to Robert Steele talk about how agencies process info. Even if an agent is hellbent on playing hero if he shows up and there's literally a million things to check they'll quickly see the futility in even trying to sift through and most of it will get passed on to whoever's on the next shift, eventually swept under the rug or just forgotten.

When nobody can get through a day without breaking some stupid rule, it's time to change the rules.

>>27554

>stop thinking with your dicks and start doing something usefull for others for a start or nobody will have any sympathy for you and you can forget about acceptance from anybody.

implying that if you want to help pedos you cant help other people ? or that i don't because i care about pedophilia ?

>Not going to happen in your lifetime, so let it go and work for something better that actually /can/ change in your lifetime - if you're not just a bleeding one-trick pony hypocrite thinking with your dick, of course.

not with that mentality it wont! also once again whats with this idea that this is the only thing i care about in the world? we're pedophiles on a pedophilia board so of course its going to seem that way.

and im not just thinking with my dick.

you might be right, maybe i and the rest of the pedos could try to get something going and not change anything at all… but even then, we would have made it easier for the next group of pedos to come along.

change takes a while but it takes even longer when you give up on it and leave it to the seemingly enlighted progressive public. and giving up because you wont be able to enjoy it in /your/ life time is selfish.

>Try reading links next time gg

i did read the links. children aren't being charged with cp but should be taught that its bad and be punished for making it if possible. that was the first link. pedos are good at hiding porn and will get away with jerking off those vile monsters, was the second.

i guess the world wont arrest pedophiles anymore huh ? what did i miss?

>>27558

> implying that if you want to help pedos you cant help other people ? or that i don't because i care about pedophilia ?

You're not important enough to spend that much time on, to explain in detail.

> not with that mentality it wont!

Good.

> you might be right, maybe i and the rest of the pedos could try to get something going and not change anything at all… but even then, we would have made it easier for the next group of pedos to come along.

Not from what I'm seeing, you're just making yourself look focused on one thing and one thing only: Legal access to that sweet, sweet underage ponani.

Not gonna happen, and you are fucking up your own cause by going at it directly like that like some tard who can't think strategically or in nuances.

Here's a tip: Have a go at working for childrens rights to bodily autonomy in general, and their welfare and rights, and you'll be fighting the enemy where he isn't.

That's what's going to help, over time: Not treating children as property or mini-humas with mini human rights, but granting children full rights under the Convention of the Rights of the Child (http://www.ohchr.org/en/professionalinterest/pages/crc.aspx), the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/), and finally you can work on promoting the (draft) Declaration of Sexual Rights (http://www.sexology.it/declaration_sexual_rights.html) to be extended also to children such as in mandatory sexual education in school.

That's what will help over time - not your flailing your arms and screaming at the top of your lungs: "I want sweet kiddie pussy kids are sexual too waah!".

Come on, use the old noodle and look ahead a little.

> what did i miss?

You missed the fact that with minors having already become an exception to the law, and minors sort of tending to become adults over time, combined with how the authorities already cannot prosecute everybody sharing CP on the clearnet (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11174715/Thousands-of-paedophiles-will-escape-justice-crime-chief-admits.html), the legality of CP will gradually change.

AND, you missed the fact that with the video and picture evidence out there - massive amounts of it - of children and minors being highly sexual, the old victorian mindset about children being "innocent" and sexless, won't hold over time.

Now if you will excuse me, I'll go do a couple of hours volunteer work for causes relating to minors' rights.

It's becoming exponentially easier to track people downloading/sharing CP.

>AND, you missed the fact that with the video and picture evidence out there - massive amounts of it - of children and minors being highly sexual, the old victorian mindset about children being "innocent" and sexless, won't hold over time.

"those were victims groomed by abusers to act sexy on camera, ditto with solo girls on webcams, and sexting minors are the victims of our sexualized pop media and should be reeducated."

>>27581

>"those were victims groomed by abusers to act sexy on camera, ditto with solo girls on webcams, and sexting minors are the victims of our sexualized pop media and should be reeducated."

And even if that were convincing to the current adult population, it won't be for the next one.

Look ahead. The future is changing.

>>27588

Also, want to stand in the Hall of Fame?

Start by becoming an ethicist. Do activist work. Volunteer. Change the world in whichever way you can, find a cause in which you can make a difference, contribute mothafucka.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2XTsWgN0CU

Yeah, you can be the greatest

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You can be the King Kong banging on your chest

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You can move a mountain

You can break rocks

You can be a master

Don't wait for luck

Dedicate yourself and you gon' find yourself

Standing in the hall of fame (yeah)

And the world's gonna know your name (yeah)

'Cause you burn with the brightest flame (yeah)

And the world's gonna know your name (yeah)

And you'll be on the walls of the hall of fame

You can go the distance

You can run the mile

You can walk straight through hell with a smile

You can be the hero

You can get the gold

Breaking all the records they thought never could be broke

Yeah, do it for your people

Do it for your pride

How are you ever gonna know if you never even try?

Do it for your country

Do it for your name

'Cause there's gonna be a day…

When you're standing in the hall of fame (yeah)

And the world's gonna know your name (yeah)

'Cause you burn with the brightest flame (yeah)

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And you'll be on the walls of the hall of fame

Be a champion, be a champion, be a champion, be a champion

On the walls of the hall of fame

Be students

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Be believers

Be leaders

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Be truth seekers

Be students

Be teachers

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Be preachers

Be believers

Be leaders

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Standing in the hall of fame (yeah, yeah, yeah)

And the world's gonna know your name (yeah, yeah, yeah)

'Cause you burn with the brightest flame (yeah, yeah, yeah)

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And you'll be on the walls of the hall of fame

(Be a champion)

You could be the greatest

(Be a champion)

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(Be a champion)

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(Be a champion)

You could beat the war

(Be a champion)

You could talk to God, go banging on his door

(Be a champion)

You can throw your hands up

(Be a champion)

You can beat the clock (yeah)

(Be a champion)

You can move a mountain

(Be a champion)

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>>27562

>You're not important enough to spend that much time on, to explain in detail.

what are, things people say when they don't know what they're talking about

i didnt really get to this in my last comment but you have to remember that when you say or explain something here you're not just doing it for me but for everyone else in the board.

which it seems like you're aware of somewhat since you keep making generalized insults which could broadly describe the comunity and get peoples attention (though im being generous)

>That's what's going to help, over time: Not treating children as property or mini-humas with mini human rights, but granting children full rights under the Convention of the Rights of the Child (http://www.ohchr.org/en/professionalinterest/pages/crc.aspx), the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/), and finally you can work on promoting the (draft) Declaration of Sexual Rights (http://www.sexology.it/declaration_sexual_rights.html) to be extended also to children such as in mandatory sexual education in school.

^ like this mess of links right here. what is all of this saying. are these rights already recongized? are they pleads ? were you just linking them to remind us what rights exist.

like the whole fighting for childrens rights is something golden and im genunely interested! but the links dont help much at all.

>minors sort of tending to become adults over time

>the old victorian mindset about children being "innocent" and sexless, won't hold over time

you probably glanced over this but thats something i already addressed in my first comment to you

"its no secret to anyone that they do sexual things even antis … while some how remaining strongly anti… acknowledge it."

and

"pleasure in thinking that they were cleaner than the new generation" which would include not being as slutty

from psychologists who write books on how your child masturbating is normal to adults who gave head when they were in middle school. the problem was never that children were or werent ever sexual but

the myth that children being sexual with adults would harm them

and like how >>27511 said about the sexting and overwhelming amount of people with cp links you gave originally

>These just give loopholes that would lead to pedos becoming even more sedentary while still being under the mercy of the law

thats really all it is

>Now if you will excuse me, I'll go do a couple of hours volunteer work for causes relating to minors' rights.

when you come back maybe fill us in more on the giving children more rights ? is this really something thats a problem in the 1st world ? it might sound sarcastic say things but i genuinely had no idea

and i ask, at the risk of you getting mad and not answering any of my questions,how would these things effect socities acceptance of us who want to date a child?

i know you're probably going to make those insults again but it really comes back to that, no ones having their lives ruined from being a pedophile alone.. and while im not saying that everything should revolve around

,in your words "Legal access to that sweet, sweet underage ponani". it would be nice to know that your claim to child rights helping us over time actually does that, beyond any sort of vauge sense.

>>27591

1. Find your fucking SHIFT-key

2. No, I am not in the mood to be tripcode-discussing work that needs decades to come to fruition, on the clearnet.

Give me an invitation to whatever on the darknet, we'll talk these things over there

3. You honestly think children in the 1st world have perfect rights? Of course you don't. There will always be room for improvement, and yes, I can probably list at least a dozen without a moments thought, then another three-four dozen after that.

There's plenty of work to be done, and there's this about working for REAL change - it tends to be synergistic, and have unforseen consequences - side-effects, basically.

One of which, will inevitably lead us down the road to lowering AoC back to where it should be, 13 yo.

From there, the next generation will have to take over.

>>27592

Notice how this duder called a fight, and did not show up for it in a day.

i didnt ask for a fight and i have no idea how to darknet.

why cant you explain yourself here

>>27648

It is not I who have a problem "explaining myself", it is you who have a problem *understanding* what I say.

Because you are an idiot.

>>27649

*le sigh*

Maybe I'll do an explanation over the weekend. I'm not a patient man however, so sometimes I forget that I need to not make so many demands of others, and not assume that they know and understand what I know.

I don't actually mean to be offensive, and so please excuse me if I am. Sorry.