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 No.30302

Anyone know about IPCE Positive Memories?

It seems legit, but any faults in any of the cases?

 No.30305

Why hasn't this been shilled all across the internet? Not a single review or reddit post calling it out on google. First time I'm hearing it and it seems like a holy grail of anecdotal evidence(which is much more credible for a topic with which there is practically no research) for the average PIDF.

Other than people who dismiss anecdotal evidence entirely, and people who question the credibility, this tome is great argument material. Share it far and wide.


 No.30308

>>30305

>Other than people who dismiss anecdotal evidence entirely, and people who question the credibility

so basically everyone then. i admit i've only read a few but they all certainly read like completely bs fapfics to me.


 No.30309

A lot of them seem to come from pedophile forums, so that does increase the odds of some of them being real, since they attract certain types of people - pedophiles.

Some of them seem a little too good to be true though.

What do you mean by fault?


 No.30310

>>30308

The girls-men stories are incredibly slutty, talking about fucking other guys and turning into whores after the first encounter in most of them. This is against common male fantasy, guys don't like writing about being cucked, so it's hard to say those are fapfics.

The thing about people who outright discredit anecdotes and refuse to believe certain things is that these people are also susceptible to strawman arguments. You can ask them to provide evidence of consensual encounters that did have a bad effect on the child, toss out any mentioned event that's not "consensual", and then roast them about having no evidence when they can't bring up a convenient book on consensual encounters that turned ugly.


 No.30315

To be honest, only one of them needs to be true for the entire anti narrative to come crashing down. It would no longer be all children and the idea that sex could be a positive experience if handled correctly would be proven.


 No.30316

What do you guys think especially of Girl-Man #9 Hannah? If you read it you'll why I'm asking. What should a truly, good example look like?


 No.30320

>>30316

I don't know man. She seems to live in a world where there are no parents, every other man is a pedophile, and where she has talked to dozens of former little girls who had relationships with men and not found a single one that was abusive. Even if the core is true, I bet that this is full of exaggerations and cherry picked samples.


 No.30322

What about the other cases? But what SHOULD a good example of pedo relationships look like?

>>30320 Also, what if that's all true?


 No.30328

>30320

Didn't she say that she came onto a lot of men, but pretty much none of them responded? A few red faces and the occasional hug?


 No.30332

>>30328

Yea that's true


 No.30333

>>30310

>This is against common male fantasy, guys don't like writing about being cucked, so it's hard to say those are fapfics.

That's a really awful supporting argument. Like, really awful.

>susceptible to strawman arguments.

your ENTIRE argument is a strawman of people who don't believe these stories. there is zero hyperbole or exaggeration when i say that, every last word you typed in your second paragraph is creating a strawman of what people who don't believe these stories are supposed to think.

>You can ask them to provide evidence of consensual encounters that did have a bad effect on the child, toss out any mentioned event that's not "consensual", and then roast them about having no evidence when they can't bring up a convenient book on consensual encounters that turned ugly.

I think you just indirectly stated no consensual encounters exist. I'm not sure if that was the point you were trying to make.

I'm not talking about any negative encounters, I'm talking about these stories being very obviously written by pedophiles, for pedophiles.

>>30322

Yea it would be nice if it was true. It would be nice if I had a million dollars.


 No.30334

the guy wrote these has credibility. his name is Titus Rivas, and some f the experiences really seem real. I even looked for some of them which originally were on pedofilie.nl before he found them and asked the author


 No.30335

>>30333

No, that entire post was a suggestion on how the book can be used as a resource for arguments. The second paragraph had a strawman, because I literally said that a strawman should be used against idiots who outright discard evidence.

Not surprising you can't make that out with your level of shoddy reading comprehension, considering the only point you used to discredit both the book and the post was calling it awful.


 No.30337

these cases seem slutty…


 No.30338

just read them btw


 No.30339

>>30335

>The thing about people who

That is called the beginning of a strawman. For talking about someone's intelligence you happen to have a pathetically juvenile capability for lying.

Your only defense on record so far was that the stories don't fit some narrative you made up on the spot, and the book has to have some level of credibility first in order to be discredited, you delusional shit.


 No.30340

>>30339

Talk about being a passive aggressive little shit. For someone putting on airs of intelligence and maturity, you don't hold back with emasculate insults and wild accusations at all do you?

Before you continue on pelting another load of insults in a discussion that you can only perceive as some sort of playground name-calling dick contest, at least try to pretend you have some sort of basis to the horseshit you're spouting.

Instead of just making statements that x is a strawman, that I'm "lying" about something you won't even mention, and that the book has no credibility because you deem it so, why don't you try to tell me why any of these points piss you off, or why they possibly might be wrong? Continuing off as you are, you're only making yourself look laughably stupid and petty.


 No.30341

>>30340

>Talk about being a passive aggressive little shit.

"Not surprising you can't make that out with your level of shoddy reading comprehension"

> putting on airs of intelligence and maturity

read your own post, i mean jesus christ this is a doosie

>you're only making yourself look laughably stupid and petty.

talking about what's laughable, i have never seen this level of laughably embarrassing projecting butthurt, holy shit.

>that the book has no credibility because you deem it so

the site has no credibility because it's literally a collection of random stories that all literally source back to erotica sites like http://www.femmerotic.com, ERP forums, or have no sources at all beyond "i got this from a website that no longer exists." unless you count kate winslet and the girl who fucked david bowie, both of whom were teens when their encounters started. as far as PEDO credibility is concerned, your darling collection of fapfics has zero.

cry some more for me you pathetic sniveling little faggot. fucking lol.


 No.30342

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>>30341

You're doing a terrible job pretending the last post didn't affect you emotionally, what with putting half of your post into a analhurt tirade of shitty insults. Did that take you long to write, friend? Was it worth proving you're an insufferable idiot who can't control his temper?

>the site has no credibility because it's literally a collection of random stories that all literally source back to erotica sites like http://www.femmerotic.com, ERP forums, or have no sources at all beyond "i got this from a website that no longer exists."

Attacking the source, I see. Where the posts came from is irrelevant. The credibility in the posts lies in the content, of which the crux of your denial lies, your insistence that these are all fapfics simply because they come from fapfic sites. A fapfic is meant to be fapped to, to be read for entertainment. There is very little erotica in many of these, they are described in events, , much like a greentext post. whether or not the sources still exist, these are messege/communication format writings, very hard to duplicate, especially with the diverse variety in writing styles. In short, these texts came from a third party source, highly unlikely to be fictional.

You have to realise that theres nothing on consensual encounters at all. No research, no studies, no papers, nothing. When your data consists of anecdotes or assumptions/theorys, the anecdotes become the hardest data there is. And with multiple dozen cases, that's a considerable amount, considering the shit the "victim" gets for revealing this, evident by the "I do not support adult child sex" precautions in many of these, and the remarks of the respective users gaining disapproval.

>cry some more for me you pathetic sniveling little faggot. fucking lol.

I can taste the tears in every word.


 No.30343

>>30333

>I'm not talking about any negative encounters, I'm talking about these stories being very obviously written by pedophiles, for pedophiles.

That doesn't imply it is false though. A female pedo can have experienced positive sexual interactions with adults as a loli, and be writing about them there. Ideally, they wouldn't be pedophiles for PR purposes, but beggers cannot be choosers.

Also, the internet is a big place, full of all sorts. Even if only 0.1% of girls had a positive experience, we could fill this entire board with their stories.


 No.30344

>>30343

Pretty much a lost cause trying to hammer logic into him, he's just a contrarian faggot who gets angry when his precious personal opinions aren't being fellated in a circlejerk of agreement. The self hate must be so strong that he now righteously attacks sources that have the slightest benefit for pedophiles, evidence and credibility be damned.


 No.30350

First time reading these…so much information…


 No.30360

No. I have not. Never did, and never shall.


 No.30361

No. I have not. Never did, and never shall.

JK, I have and they seem real.


 No.30388

>>30316

Interesting story that one. It seems that most of it is okay except the part where he finds her by laying down naked and fapping where he knows she'll find him. Holy shit, that's fucking creepy, what the fuck.

The rest of the stories seem pretty okay. Some are probably written by pedophile women, but that's fine. The stories are about sexual relationships that didn't turn out bad, not ones for good experience for non-pedophile adults.


 No.30399

>>30388 The guy who got those stories together said somewhere in those pages that he found experiences of people who weren't pedophiles to counter the usual belief that most "molested" people become pedos as adults.


 No.30475

Here's an interesting story. Woman reflects on a relationship she had with an uncle.

http://www.psychforums.com/paraphilias/topic163385.html

And for posterity, archive here of Papergirl's posts here: http://pastebin.com/q73XPDUf

Thoughts?


 No.30510

>>30342

>The credibility in the posts lies in the content

> your insistence that these are all fapfics simply because they come from fapfic sites.

> these texts came from a third party source, highly unlikely to be fictional.

there's no way a conscious human being sat down at a computer, typed this out, and meant it. this is a joke. everything in your post was written as a joke.


 No.30511

>>30475

>Although the incessant touching felt “wrong” to me, I allowed it because I felt it was a form of “barter” for the attention I so desperately craved.

>Jimmy was quite adept at child psychology. He knew exactly how to suck me deeper and deeper into this mysterious “barter”. He knew there was a second cousin of whom I was jealous named Claire. Whenever he wanted to escalate our “barter” another notch, he would tell me he likes Claire because SHE lets him do whatever it is he wanted to do with me.

that is not what consent is. that is explicitly manipulation. are you sure that's the kind of story you want to push?


 No.30513

>>30510

Did you wait more than one week so you could have the last reply? That's really fucking pathetic. What a sore loser.


 No.30515

>>30513

yea because i made sure to sage like you did, you know, so no one would notice the reply. if you're so ashamed of your retardation why don't you hide the thread? because holy shit you're an embarrassment.

>The credibility in the posts lies in the content

> your insistence that these are all fapfics simply because they come from fapfic sites.

> these texts came from a third party source, highly unlikely to be fictional.


 No.30518

>>30515

>off topic reply saged because the thread is already dead

>you should've obsessed over a post for more than a week like I did

>p-pls respond

Keep going, this board can only get worse.


 No.30528

The thread is not dead, you want the thread to be dead because you are embarrassed at how insanely retarded you've been and having to actually admit these are stories written by pedophiles for erotic lit sites, but we should believe they are true accounts anyways because literally "that's all we have".

evidence being hard to get doesn't excuse you from having to actually get evidence.

cred·i·bil·i·ty

the quality of being trusted and believed in.

the quality of being convincing or believable.

"the book's anecdotes have scant regard for credibility", what an amazingly appropriate example. what about an erotic story written by a pedophile for other pedophiles to masturbate to on a pedophile forum comes across as being convincing or believable to you as true? you can''t even contact the authors because all these websites are defunct.

i'd also love to read your train of logic that makes third party sources somehow "unlikely to be fictional." do you know what third party means? because it doesn't mean you got a third party to investigate if a story was true, it means you're a guy who heard something from a guy who knew a guy.

something you seem to be having trouble understanding through your desperate clinging is that trying to prop up literal actual porn stories written by porn authors as true events hurts us. it turns our efforts into a joke, just like you. you're a joke.


 No.30530

>>30528

Did that load of nonsense take you long to type, you autist?


 No.30534

it's sublime




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