/zoo/ - Zoophilia

Hello fellow Zoo-friend

I am from Germany and I'd like to talk with you about anything related to zoo.

central south britbong here. whereabouts are you OP?

Another britbong from the north. Plenty of horses, never had the courage.

>>6953

OP here. South-east england.

Also, does anybody know a good chat room, maybe an IRC? a /zoo/ irc could definately be useful as long as it's secure

>>6971

>good

no. and they tend to come and go.

>>6935

You ever thought about asking around in the furry communities? I'm in the US, and I belong to both of the communities in a sense, and I'm sure there a lot more people out there that are as well.

Furries in general are pretty open about stuff like this (not the mainstream furfags everyone actually hates), and there are definitely places you could meet people in the fandom that you could try to casually drop that into a conversation.

>>6973

This is a bad idea. I've hung around furry "communities" for nearly a decade, and if there's one thing that incenses them, it's being conflated with zoophiles. I'm sure there ARE plenty of them that are both furries and zoos (I am, too), but as a whole, they're pretty desperate to rid themselves of the bad reputation the public has of them.

It would be like going up to a bunch of lolicons and talking about legit pedophilia. Not going to work.

>>6974

No worries, some good thinkers will already be eager to make your life miserable : https://lulz.net/furi/res/3252769.html

>>6973

Horrible idea. I Know how furs behave and identify as other species, but lots are not zoo friendly. I'm part of both communities and with what i have seen in the fur community i find it odd how some are anti'zoo. It would be awesome to find some new zoo friends via a secure manor. I have few i talk to online. would be awesome to have some zoo friends via real life though.

>>6973

furries are not attracted to animals.

sounds retarded I know, but it's true. after all the furry fandom is retarded.

they only want the human form. The more special retarded snowflake human you can get the better, but it still have to adhere to the human form.

>>6980

>furries are not attracted to animals.

a) humans are animals

b) furries are attracted to anthropomorphized animal/human hybrids

c) there are a lot of feral furs out there and there is a lot of feral yiff (yiff depicting quadrupedal animals)

d) there is a lot of zoophilic/bestiality yiff as well. (yiff of an anthropomorphized bipedal furry doing/being done by a feral quadruped)

>after all the furry fandom is retarded.

this is ambiguous. what do you mean by "furry fandom"? do you mean what the fandom is about, or the people who are in it?

>they only want the human form.

no they don't. see above. they want to appear to only want the human form as that is better PR for the fandom.

>>6980

>furries are not attracted to animals.

a) humans are animals

b) furries are attracted to anthropomorphized animal/human hybrids

c) there are a lot of feral furs out there and there is a lot of feral yiff (yiff depicting quadrupedal animals)

d) there is a lot of zoophilic/bestiality yiff as well. (yiff of an anthropomorphized bipedal furry doing/being done by a feral quadruped)

>after all the furry fandom is retarded.

this is ambiguous. what do you mean by "furry fandom"? do you mean what the fandom is about, or the people who are in it?

>they only want the human form.

no they don't. see above. they want to appear to only want the human form as that is better PR for the fandom.

I hate furries. And im 100% zoo.

>>7006

I live near Brighton if that's any help. Not gonna say the exact place but that's close enough.

Meeting up could be an issue. Best to chat first, the best thing I can think of would be via IRC. If you have any suggestions for a IRC room go ahead.

Also, the main problem is determining whether the other is the police or not.

>>6980

they don't want human form so much (although some do). they mainly expect human intellect from their characters.

I can bold words all day too

>>7004

why is there so much hate on this planet? its so irrational.

live and let live

>>7008

>they don't want human form so much (although some do). they mainly expect human intellect from their characters.

not the ferals, which is basically where furry and zoo overlap

>I can bold words all day too

good job. you should be proud of your accomplishment.

>>7012

what distinguishes furry feral from zoo is the intellect. if you remove the intellect (which is proportionally rare), it's just drawn zoo porn.

thank you I put a lot of work into it

(the intellect and associated anthropomorphized features as visual cues)

>>7007

a bit of a trek but not too bad. I'd be up for it to meet another zoo.

I've got a shitton of history somewhere else to basically prove I'm not police/crazy fuck. Im staying anon on this place though.

I'll let you know if I can think of a way to sort something out without telling the whole internet.

Does anyone hate themselves/this part of them for being into this but so so badly want to give it a try?

PA, USA. Would really like to talk to someone about this.

>>7043

why would you hate yourself for being into this?

there's honestly no reason.

>>7043

>Does anyone hate themselves/this part of them for being into this

no, why? can you elaborate what troubles you?

>but so so badly want to give it a try?

sounds like you are still young, and are struggling with acceptance.

>PA, USA.

where abouts?

>Would really like to talk to someone about this.

sure thing, that is what the community is for.

>>7044

>there's honestly no reason

correct. well, there is no real reason for this.

but many people don't realize that.

>>7020

IRC's are the best thing. I'm using tor so a lot of places automatically ban me when they detect it so that is an issue.

Once the IRC is chosen we'd just need to post our chat names and we can PM each other.

>>7044

look. I've had to deal with this part of myself for years (I've felt this way since I was around 13/14). At first I hated myself for it and I couldn't stand the idea of people knowing so I kept my mouth shut.

But I kept on thinking about this shit and the thought wouldn't go away and that hurt so much because I knew there was nobody to talk to and no way I could even try and experience something without the risk of destroying my life.

I know that if I was ever caught that I would end up killing myself. I'm not going to live a life where I'm not free and have people attack me in the streets. I wouldn't even be able to go to people in my fucking street and say "I have to legally tell you I fucked an animal and got caught", I'd end myself before I got to that point.

And yet there is still the fact of the matter. I want to do stuff even with the risk. And the question is, why?

Because if you live with yourself for so long, having something just out of your reach but you know you can't get it, and you have to deal with this knowledge for years of your life you are going to get to the point where you have to reach out, even if it is only a one time thing and with the risk of your life being over.

I've had so many opportunities to do stuff. There is a farm nearby with horses that I could sneak into at night. There is a farm with sheep that are left out at night that I could go to. I could do dog walking for people and find an empty/alone area. I could even do dogsitting for people. I've gone round friends houses and had time alone with their pets. I went on holiday and the owners of the land let their dog walk around freely so I could have always done stuff with it. I used to do horse riding/grooming so I could have easily done stuff when a mare is in her stable.

Yet I never did anything sexual with those animals in my life and I know I could have. And when I actually think about it, I'm on the fucking edge because there are so many people who are living the life I want to in this regard.

And yet society would still call me a monster if I owned up to having an attraction to animals. For something I've never even tried. That's why I keep my mouth shut

So it doesn't matter at this point whether I have sex with an animal. People will hate me either way. Trying something that I've had the ability to try for all this time will end up with people hating me and my life being over. Society still hates me for who I am, even if I've never done something like this.

I know I'm probably going to kill myself one day, that's just how it is when you've have to live life, like this. Being abnormal and seen as a freak.

I might aswell try and live the life I want and risk the consequences, the result is the same in both regards.

>>7044

oh shit, >>7048 was meant for >>7043

>>7046

1. Basically its guilt that I'm into something thats actually fairly disgusting and if anyone ever found out I would probably be cast out of my family and hated as a sick fuck. Plus animals are gross, they don't wash their hands after pooping. On top of I feel bad about the act itself, like I would be taking a part of the animals innocence from it or at the very least changing the way I viewed that animal.

2. Early twenties and this is just one of several fetishes I have or thats how I view it.

3. Central PA

4. I'm probably to shy to talk about it out loud but I feel in person out loud would be the best way for me to cope. Online just seems to pointless.

>>7048

I can definitely identify with that. I have no interest in doing other peoples animals though without permission atleast. It just seems wrong to me.

I just wish I had someone close to safely share this. Even if we ended up just shoving Bad Dragon toys up each others orifices that would be enough for me I think.

>>7053

>On top of I feel bad about the act itself, like I would be taking a part of the animals innocence from it or at the very least changing the way I viewed that animal.

holy shit. I know exactly what you mean. My family have a dog and I couldn't even begin to think about doing stuff to her because I'm worried of her 'hating' me after.

>>7054

Not only that but the risk of getting caught or going to fast because you are in a hurry or just in general changing the way you view the pet internally.

I think I would rather have a happy loyal pet then a mentally damaged and untrusting one.

>>7055

I wouldn't do anything with her for that reason anyway. I never planned on doing stuff with her and I don't plan too.

>>6974

>>6979

>>6980

Makin' my point of "mainstream" furfags and actual furries. As a whole, community is pretty open about it, but those assholes like to speak for the rest of us.

>>6991

This, and try maybe talking to people in U-18Chan's /feral/ about it (although that board is pretty dead).

OG furries recognize these points and accept it, newfags ruin it for everyone, like usual.

My intent is to say, there's a lot more furry communities in the UK than zoos obviously, so you're best chance to actually meeting a zoo who is also a furry is likely in those circles.

Also, just pointing out, that it's not illegal to want this or think about it. Your thoughts are your own, and sometimes laws are made that are meant to protect a small group at the expense of the larger whole, so maybe in the future there will be change about this.

tl;dr

STFU newfags, practice critical thinking, and lurk moar.

>>7048

I recently told my roommate about some experiences I had with a dog when I was younger, and he confided in me later that he also had made sexual contact with his dog when he was in his teens.

Sometimes saying this shit out loud is the best thing we can do for ourselves, as it frees us from thinking we're in between a rock and a hard place. Find someone who actually gives a shit about you, and see if they can take that information. Or not, who knows. The only person that needs to be okay with this is you.

Of course, if you're trespassing to do it, that's another story. If you weren't comfortable with having random sex with an animal when you could have, that only means that you have a sense of personal restriction to know that may have gone against your nature. I've made those decisions myself, and sometimes I just ignore that feeling because it's not somewhere that may be safe for me, or the animal.

And hey, if you wanna kill yourself, do it, faggot! Otherwise, you'll want to learn to live outside your comfort zone just a bit to take the chance that others out there feel the same as you do, then seeing if that's what it's gonna take to feel better about yourself. The world isn't going to stop just because you admit you like fucking animals, and whether that's just admitting it to yourself or others, is entirely up to you.

>>7053

I'm sure no one would even think that animals are innocent if humans didn't totally dominate all animals to begin with. Just like I'm sure that all of us would be fucking each other's brains out if social norms would permit it (find the "bushes" at a nude beach for a tame version of what that would look like).

The only perception that will matter is your own, so if you feel these boundaries are ever present, they will stay ever present. I'm not saying go buck-wild and fuck in public, I'm saying that you'll need to take chances and step outside your comfort zone to get these kinds of experiences.

>>7054

She's only gonna hate you if you hurt her while messing around (unless she already hates you). Do some cunnilingus on her to start, that is usually the best place to start for females in my experience, also the safest.

>>7055 and >>7056

Have you ever seen dogs fuck? Not exactly the most relaxing at the start, especially with a bitch just in heat and unaware of the knot :P Practice makes perfect, just don't shove shit places that may be too big.

>>7061

>If you weren't comfortable with having random sex with an animal when you could have, that only means that you have a sense of personal restriction to know that may have gone against your nature

It's not that I wasn't comfortable (maybe it was, but it doesn't feel like that). It's the fact that I knew I had control. I knew I shouldn't do it for some arbritrary reason of it being "morally wrong". Plus in most times it was during the day and around other people so there was a huge risk.

>Otherwise, you'll want to learn to live outside your comfort zone just a bit to take the chance that others out there feel the same as you do, then seeing if that's what it's gonna take to feel better about yourself.

Maybe I'm just being retarded but I don't quite get what you mean by this.

>>7063

From what I've read, it seems like if you say anything about it, that you would lose control of your life, which I'm gonna say is only as much as you wish it to be (I'm not sure if it was you, others have said it and I'm just clarifying). For me, this part of me was found out by my sister, and she told it to my Mom to get back at me (maybe, she's just a bitch in general), and yeah I got some shit for it, but I wasn't outed and disowned.

It's not the end of the world to let people know about this side of you, but I can understand your feelings towards whom you actually say this to, which is why I think it may be easier to say to an audience more accepting like furries.

That last part, may have been an over assumption on my part, seeing as I was drawing lines where you would rather kill yourself than let people think what they already think about this subject.

For me, I had to step outside of what I believed about myself to know that, I don't give a shit about what other people think of me, and that it's a real challenge to actually do. I'm still struggling with that fact about being gay, being a furry, and being a zoosexual (I like that term for what I feel I have with animals), and I realized that I personally need to be okay with these things, as my opinion of myself is the most important.

Most important, though, is to make sure you're safe with whom you talk to about this, as there may be people who can become violent or hurtful with this type of information. If you ever decide to be more open about this, that will be on your time to decide.

>>7064

>From what I've read, it seems like if you say anything about it, that you would lose control of your life,

My life wouldn't be over but it'd screw me up. I'd rather not live with the fact that somebody who hates zoos knows I'm a zoo. The only people I want to know that I'm a zoo are other zoos and people who are pro-zoo. I just want to minimize the stress of something that is stressfull enough.

When I said about killing myself, it was an over exxageration. I have life goals and I'd rather not have them stepped on because I 'came out' and an employer or whoever found out and denied me something. Plus if I ever wanted to "become important" as soon as people dug up the information that whole thing would be over.

If I was ever arrested, I'd probably kill myself. I'd rather not live that life.

Hell, I even had a risk of being caught with animal porn on my computer (some of my shit was gonna get ceased for a crime where I was a victim). it's a long story that doesn't need to get told here but I was ready to OD. I got lucky and nothing happened (and still hasn't happened. Fucking cops can't do shit).

I'm bisexual so I partially know the struggle of acceptence (thought being bi is 50% easier than being gay cause I can stil have a straight relationship). I'm furry too but I've never bothered to get involved with the community. As for zoo stuff, zoosexuality does work for me, but I've never needed to use it because I don't need to give myself a name for something nobody knows about. Once I get to a proper stage I'd probably adopt the name.

I wouldn't even know whom to talk to. I don't have enough close friends who I could say this too, family is a big no. The only option is people online who I wouldn't even know how to properly contact.

It's not like I can just ask another zoo on the internet for their email. Nobody is gonna leave their contact info on somewhere like /zoo/

>>7065

I'd say I'm about 85-15 in terms of my bisexual status (mostly male, goes up more for females with zoo). I wouldn't say it's easier for me (because people don't believe me usually), but I'm learning to not care what others think in terms of that, and only explain it when I want to.

Again, I'm merely answering the question >>6935 asked about how to meet zoos in his area (not sure if you're OP, so I'm just putting that there). Just about every furry I've met IRL has had some thoughts of doing zoo stuff, besides the ones I thought were furries to belong to a group (aka "mainstream" furfags). Your mileage may very, be cautious about whom you chat with at cons; make sure the person or persons you talk with can be trusted to some extent. This is of course all up to you, if you wanted to find someone IRL that may be interested.

Not sure the cops could lawfully search your PC without a warrant, but that's US law, unsure if UK works the same. I know in the states that it's not illegal to own it, but it is to produce it, and I don't know dick about UK law, so sucks if that's not the case there.

I wouldn't mind talking more about this, but yeah, anonymity about this is why I'm posting so much here. If anyone's got a link for an anonymous PM client, I'd appreciate it. Otherwise, if you want, there's always volatile email like 10 Minute Mail or GuerrillaMail.

>>7061

>Sometimes saying this shit out loud is the best thing we can do for ourselves, as it frees us from thinking we're in between a rock and a hard place. Find someone who actually gives a shit about you, and see if they can take that information. Or not, who knows. The only person that needs to be okay with this is you.

This is completely true. I used to feel like >>7048

until I started meeting other zoos online. I realized I'm not alone, and instead of hiding it, I started embracing it. I still don't tell everyone, obviously (although I became a furry because it's basically /zoo/ lite), but my two zoo-neutral friends know, and they're fine with it. They were more curious than anything, and i've actually grown closer to them after that happened. Being a zoo is wonderful, and I wouldn't trade it for the world.

>>7068

> I became a furry because it's basically /zoo/ lite

I had the same response to it when I found out about it (this is >>7061). I had gotten introduced to furry thanks to going to TLKFAA when I was still into that, then seeing other art that was kind of a bridge between what I already liked as a zoo, and this art that was like a "what if that was a thing?" type of situation. It took off for me from there.

>>7062

If anything I guess innocent in my own eyes. Like a parent views a child. Which makes sense since most people raise pets from kittens or puppies or whatever. Its how I view my cats atleast. Not that I have any perverse attraction to cats, they are just so cute sometimes when they arn't pissing me off.

But if social norms were islamic here we would be stoning people to death. I don't see your point. Theres a definite degenerative effect that I can see from either. The reason we arn't screwing in the bushes is because its not good for your health, mentally or otherwise.

Honestly I would rather stay a virgin forever than lose it to an animal. Thats just kinda sad to lose it to an animal.

>>7080

I dislike things about me that would hold me back from goals I want in this life.

Most Zoo/Beast people I have seen do not lead a very happy life even if they get to satisfy their degeneracies.

>>7066

I don't know any PM clients that work (idk what you are using, but I'm using tails for my OS) but the volatile email thing could work.

25b2he+cr7sb1q697na4@sharklasers.com

not sure how we can talk on this and be fully anonymous but it's worth a shot

>>7066

>>7083

found this link which could be good for a anonymous PM client. just use pidgin which comes with tails

https://www.reddit.com/r/sohhlz/wiki/index/tails-pidgin-dukgo

>>7084

for anyone who wants to message me in this way, email me at

mvwrqros@sharklasers.com

I'll reply with my username which you can message me on

>>7085

Actually, fuck it. I had to make a new tor identity and guirellamail gave me a new email address so I can't access that one.

For people who want to message me, my pm username is: horsing-around@dukgo.com

use: https://www.reddit.com/r/sohhlz/wiki/index/tails-pidgin-dukgo

if you want to set up an anonymous pm chat thing.

>>7090

> I can't access that one

meant to say can't access that old one

anyone know of an anonymous chat room to use ?

>>7097

https://www.reddit.com/r/sohhlz/wiki/index/tails-pidgin-dukgo

if you're not using tails then you really shouldn't be posting here. Though if your using tor but not tails then you are probably somewhat safe.

If you are using tails, open Pidgin and follow that guide.

Once you've done everything, I've got the username: horsing-around@dukgo.com

so feel free to add me

>>7097

btw, that's a fully anonymous chat room. but if you decide to install pidgin on windows and use this to chat you can go fuck yourself.

don't use anonymous shit on windows EVER because they fucking spy on you regardless of what you are using on your computer to be anonymous.

>>7047

god, IRC, I have basically no idea how that actually works. used it a few times but I dont really get it.

I mean, we could just use PGP encryption over email, the real problem lies in the fact that I cant tell if you are actually you or just someone pretending to be you.

I'll check out tails anyway and try to stop being paranoid.

The easiest way to chat used to be simple Torchat. But last I checked it hadn't been maintained properly in some time.

A standard messenger setup is Jabber/XMPP (Pidgin) with OTR over Tor: https://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/05/17/tutorial-xmppjabber-otr/

Works on most platforms though sometimes bugs in Pidgin.

For one-time messages, the easiest remaining is probably Bitmessage.

Ofc there's always irc.

Lots of suggestions on the tech board and sites like https://prism-break.org . Friendly reminder to beware of suggestions you read on zoo sites. They are frequently bad.

>>7084

>>7098

Btw, just so people are aware, you can register a jabber/xmpp account with any other provider, doesn't have to be Duck Duck Go.

>>7129

The successor to torchat is ricochet afaik.

https://ricochet.im/

>>7137

you got any good ricochet-adresses?

Here am i, sitting alone and wondering if theres any sort of community like this in Norway. Its been about 3 years since i lost my anal virginity to a German shepard and havent been quite able to get the thought of being fucked by a dog or even a horse out of my mind ever since. If theres anyone from norway here id love to know...so i might have someone to talk to etc etc.

furry conventions, look for the ζ memorabilia

A few days ago I found out that my gf is into this, and even had a couple of experiences.

I strongly believe that a lot of people like this, but they feel bad and they wouldn't talk about it with anybody.

>>8502

30-something year old norwegian here, living near oslo. nobody knows that i used to fuck my female dog. (she's too old now, sadly)

Yep.

>be 15

>in English class (in America)

>read Dante's Inferno

>teacher writes the numbers 1-9 on the board

>everyone is asked to categorize crimes based on which "level of hell" the sin er in question would be sent to

>murder averages at the 3rd level of hell

>"having sex with animals" is ranked at the 9th (worst) level

Right then is when I learned to keep my mouth shut. I'll never try to meet with anyone online, but if I randomly stumble across one, I would be willing to talk.

>>7048

If I was this dependant on being in people's good graces I would kill myself

Hey! New neighbor here, courts tell me I gotta tell you I am zoosexual. Not violent or anything, just trivial court stuff. I also got grass, if you want to hang sometime

>>8553

When I was a kid our teacher told us that money, the stupid paper that was asked about, moves mountains. Every single night to this day i dream about getting up, going to his face, and saying, "No, people move mountains."

Texas friend here. Would love to meet a nice person anonymously for some fun times.

>>9070

>redneck wants to meet someone anonymously

>>9070

Texas too it'd be nice to talk with someone in person.

>>9081

same. Meeting with folks is tough as everyone is paranoid as fuck in TX about being ratted on. I just want to have some fun and make love is all.

D'yall have accents?

>>9090

Kinda

>>9084

I'm in east tx right now

>>9070

>>9081

>>9084

>>9113

West TX here, would be nice to meet up but I never will, ESPECIALLY not with people from a chan, for reasons already mentioned ITT.

>>8553

>"murder" averages at the 3rd level of hell

>"having sex with animals" is ranked at the 9th (worst) level

1. This judgement tells us a thing or two about the nature of normies.

2. I wonder which circle of hell will the murderous majority of normal people go to.

3. This is why the West needs ISIS. Those "liberal" Western people literally think that death is better than pleasure (three times better)... And they continue to think that they are liberal and Islam is oppressive...

Maybe pedos and zoos should form a separate political alliance after the historical betrayal by LGBT, and reclaim the meaning of liberalism hijacked and distorted by those fakes.

>>10627

Not even a chance. LGBT is powerful because people and businesses fear discrimination lawsuits. Who fears retaliation from pedos and zoos?

What the heck...

Norfolk, England, F

Not even sure how I'd meet someone here but I figured I may as well let you know there's another Brit here.

>>10619

You do know that Dante Alighieri's magnum opus work was titled "The Divine Comedy"?

I'm wondering, in regards to meeting other zoos, are there any discreet symbols that can be worn to signal to other zoos? Obviously not a shirt saying 'I love dog dick', and it'd have to be easy to dismiss as something else. Living in a rural area, I could probably take the chance.