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Stars and Bars Anonymous 05/01/25 (Thu) 12:55:53 No.10 [Open Thread]

The Confederate Flag seems to fit in with the Catastrophist model too. The theory goes that something very like it was visible in the night sky well into Medieval times.

One bar, the Lighted Zodiac. The plane of the Solar system filled with space dust and grit, reflecting Sunlight in the night sky. I have read this was visible as late as the 1840s. Every planet shines on this line, also being confined to the plane of the Solar system. Also called tbe Ecliptic.

The other bar is the Earth's equatorial ring. Presumable a set of real rings anciently (assuming the Flood of Noah caused Saturn's rings and sprayed Earth) but by Medieval times likely faded away to near nothing. But with space grit, remaining water and any orbiting asteroids that would have made a diagonal line crossing the ecliptic due-south in the Northern Hemisphere. With asteroids making stars.

Must have been spectacular.

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Anonymous 05/01/25 (Thu) 16:27:35 No.11

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One thing I see is really as late as the 1920s there was a retained cultural understanding of legendary shapes in the sky. People "thanked their lucky stars". Distinctive shapes like the Confederate Flag still had a residual understanding. The dogma of a static Solar system was not firmly established and people did not talk glibly of 4.5 billion years ago as they do today.

If such sights were residually visible into tne 19th Century they would be on the edge of living memory still. The painting by Campi showing the Passion of Christ (attached and used as banner for this board) was recognised as that being what the Ressurection looked like. It is still described as the Ressurection by art historians but none could explain today why that was so.

There will be other cultural memories from the futher past that were still understood in the 19th and early 20th Century that I will post as I find.

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Anonymous 05/01/25 (Thu) 16:36:10 No.12

Another example is that God and Heaven was firmly placed in the sky. Only really with the Space Age of the 1950s and 60s does God and His place in Heaven start to become immaterial instead and not in the sky.

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Anonymous 05/01/25 (Thu) 16:36:42 No.13

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There is a tantelising reference in Comyns-Beaumont's Mysterious Comet to an actual sighting of the Antichrist over Canada in the 1920s. People knew what that looked like then but sadly he left no drawing of it and it is not certain now what that means. A red plasma man over the North Pole is my best guess, resembling this laboratory-produced image.

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Anonymous 05/30/25 (Fri) 14:51:21 No.27

Thanks for the effortpost at 4chan, anon. And the link to your underworld of knights errand.

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Anonymous 05/31/25 (Sat) 21:40:28 No.28

>>27

You're welcome! I think conceptually all this stuff is really starting to take off.

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Medieval Passion picture appearing to show planetary Mars Anonymous 05/20/25 (Tue) 12:45:04 No.23 [Open Thread]

This picture in the Getty museum attributed to perhaps Andre d'Ypres, suggested 1425-1450AD

https://www.getty.edu/art/collection/object/103REV

Isn't that planetary Mars off to the right wreaking havoc?

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Anonymous 05/20/25 (Tue) 12:46:49 No.24

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Similar to the picture used as banner here, with a very planetary Mars this time raising Jesus to heaven.

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Anonymous 05/20/25 (Tue) 12:48:28 No.25

Same theme of smoke and fire and a round shape at the bottom.

The horns would be any planet on a close pass making a crescent in the sunlight

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Project Orion, declassified KGB document from 1985 Anonymous 05/12/25 (Mon) 22:09:13 No.20 [Open Thread]

Best current Youtuber "Anachonistic Affliction" has a great little series up looking at this KGB document called Project Orion, from 1985:

https://youtu.be/MAs0xF14uAo

This is the archive link for it:

https://archive.org/details/proekt-orion-translated/Proekt_Orion_Translated/mode/1up

Lots and lots of interesting things therein. The motivation seems to be that they got wind of the Americans expecting a major catastrophe in 2012 and wanted to understand why.

They had access to the captured German research from the late 1930s as well as Tibetan manuscripts and made some very up to date conclusions about the role of electromagnetism and planetary dynamics. The odd thing is the hypothesized the existence of a massive "Iron Planet" that induced all these electrical effects that would be explained today with Birkeland Currents through space and the plasma physics that came later.

The other odd thing is the scope of the work, going back half a million years and suggesting alien origin of humanity, based on the Sumarian clay tablets describing their Creation myths. Not the last few thousand years favoured today.

I have only glanced at it so far but it looks excellent. Lots of things wrong with it of course but lots seems right and is a remarkable thing to put together in the 1980s. They were after all the number one intelligence-gathering operation at the time.

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Anonymous 05/12/25 (Mon) 22:25:28 No.21

I am working my way through "Anachronistic Affliction's" series on it. There is a really interesting comment posted in the second podcast, which I will repost here.

https://youtu.be/mbMbys7BnLk

""Hi, I came across your two videos that are about the subject of the KGB file discussed here. I admire your attempt to present the shocking content of one on video.

I am also familiar with it now and came to this through my own research, completely independent of what you refer to. However, after my personal, in-depth interpretation of the information presented in the document, I come to somewhat different conclusions. This is not the place to discuss all of that here, but I want to emphasize one thing very clearly here, namely that the file was not simply released as 'declassified'! After the fall of the USSR, the file came into the hands of KGB general MERKULOV who was responsible for its management and research. He published many related photos on the internet for money that could then be purchased. The text remained unpublished. I therefore do not think your position on deliberate disinformation is correct. (We could discuss that separately) So also the associated word 'lies'. That really hurts me I must admit. What I also do not find in your analysis is the question 'How did the Russians come to compile this file?' My own research clearly points in the direction of the Second World War when the Soviet army took over the German headquarters (OKH) in Berlin, where they found files of the "Ahnenerbe" organization. This Ahnenerbe is therefore mentioned several times in the file, as well as anonymous 'German scientists'. The research results of the Ahnenerbe and their Tibet research in 1937-38 form the basis of this entire KGB file! The Russians were so surprised by the accuracy of the presented facts that they have carried out the entire research again, now with modern insights and techniques. This re-investigation is presented in the file. What should also not be forgotten is that the Tibet expedition under "Schäfer" contains a great deal of information that they received from the Tibetans and the Dalai Lama himself! This information goes back to the time when the Tibetans still knew about a "Tibet by the Sea"!!! How far back their knowledge of cosmological knowlPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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