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 No.13968[Reply]

Post the last book(s) you have read. It would be nice if you add a synopsis or review as well, but it's not a requirement. Just seeing a snapshot of what other image-board anons are reading is itself awesome.

New feature for 2018! This thread is set to Cycle mode. Here's to a forever book reading thread.

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 No.16289

>>16268

You don't. It's kind of underwhelming.




 No.15832[Reply]

Book clubs never work!

Why this is going to work

I'm seen book clubs started on different boards and they always fail, which is why I created a reading club instead. No one wants to read a whole book of questionable interest every week, and no one can blame anons for not wanting to. My solution for this is to focus on short stories and novellas, so that plenty of anons have the time and will to finish.

You need more material to talk about than that

Thats a valid point and will be taken into consideration. If it proves to be true my plan is to include multiple shorts by the same author, so that we can discus him as well. This will allow anons who don't want to read a whole novel to participate, while still allowing a depth of conversation.

==The White People== =

by Arthur Mache

E. F. Bleiler wrote that the narrative in the Green Book "is probably the finest single supernatural story of the century, perhaps in the literature", and Michael Dirda has stated: "If I were to list the greatest supernatural short stories of all time, I would start with Arthur Machen’s 'The White People,' about a young girl’s unknowing initiation into an ancient, otherworldly cult." S. T. Joshi has called the diary "a masterpiece of indirection, a Lovecraft plot told by James Joyce", and H. P. Lovecraft himself wrote that "Machen's narrative, a triumph of skilful selectiveness and restraint, accumulates enormous power as it flows on in a stream of innocent childish prattle". I copied this off of Wikipedia, since I don't want to give away to much. I'm going to read it again before I write what I think.

RULES

Use spoilers if what you say requires them.

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 No.16288

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FUCK JON PAUL SOT AND FUCK DISCORD TRANNIES




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 No.908[Reply]

Greetings fellow /lit/erati!

Here are the rules:

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2. Try to keep things literature related.

3. No spamming.

4. No illegal content.

Guidelines and FAQ: https://8ch.net/lit/oddsandends.html

That is all.

Let your minds and fingers roam free!

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 No.15444[Reply]

What book will make me stop hating women?

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 No.16233

> trapped in a crowd inexorably decrying Montherlant

do you know, you're the first person I've ever come across who's even heard of Montherlant, let alone read him …

but my original point in mentioning him was that laughter is an infinitely more pleasurable emotion to experience than hating … truth can be expressed in all kinds of ways. Comedy does not have to be false to how we view the world, and whether or not one is a misogynist or not is quite irrelevant to whether the words evoke a smile.

Lysistrata remains a powerful statement …


 No.16273

I would rather not. They have become memes to me and that won't change

Also

>50% of the population

They're more like 60% tips at least and still there are men that don't get laid. Even good looking by objective standards ones. Nothing really makes sense about them and they're better off as comedic relief in the Kierkegaardian manner than treated with any notice.


 No.16326

>>15958

hey tranny, time to dilate before joining the 45%


 No.16327

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>>15974

not easy to find free online


 No.16330

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>>15444

Gone With the Wind

The Private Life of Helen of Troy

My Twisted World




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 No.14438[Reply]

recommend me cool podcasts that talk about literature. It doesn't have to be the main topic of the podcast as long as it's brought up often.

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 No.14694

>>14691

Is he still going or is it going to be a biannual event when he releases a podcast?


 No.14696

Bookworm with Michael Silverblatt is alright. Basically what you'd expect from an NPR Jew.

I'm not sure if they still do it but Lapham's Quarterly had a podcast that was great, covering history and literature in a way only the truly erudite can.

New Yorker has some podcasts about books, but it's about what you would expect from a New Yorker Jew.


 No.16249

if you're familiar with everybody up until Hegel, half hour Hegel is pretty good. sadler mostly just talks, although he writes some important stuff to drive home certain points so listen carefully.


 No.16328

>>14438

i love that guy but his podcast is paywalled


 No.16329




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 No.15344[Reply]

I'm genuinely baffled by the adoration for him. I've read his stories and don't understand the appeal. Could someone explain it? Brainlet here.

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 No.15375

>>15372

>The way he writes is not really good.

except it is


 No.15379

>>15372

Lovecraft was standing on the shoulders of giants of his time. His only innovation was he basically combined a lot of contemporary sci-fi work to his own. Then he got memed by newspapers. To call him innovative is to call Robert Jordan innovative by adding S&M fetish into his version of Lord of the Rings.


 No.15978

The short attention span faggots probably feel quite accomplished and proud of themselves for actually finishing a Lovecraft short story, so they imbue a virtue upon the work that is entirely unjustified.


 No.16313

Read Stefan Grabinski


 No.16325

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>>15344

according to schnoebelen (bill) a large part of current western occultism is lovecraftian

in other words the man wasnt just a writer, he also ushered in an era of commerce with spiritual entities and realms heretofore unexplored or not so focused upon

Bill mentions as an example contacting other universes, becoming God in them and drawing power from them

if you look at current technobabble they are talking a lot about alternate universes lately, notably in the field of quantum computing (and A.I.?)

TL;DR: way more real than you want to know unless you're into high level hardcore satanism




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 No.15140[Reply]

Let's just do it. There's not gonna be a better time, anyway. No hurry, obviously.

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 No.16315

>>16306

thanks for the well-analyzed criticism anon. how do you think i could improve apart from writing more, practicing, and refining technique? do you think working off a stronger outline would help? i basically just started writing with a vague image in my head and went from there, which i know isnt a strong way to start, but like i said, i wanted to prove to myself that i could finish a story. from your second to last paragraph i think i should definitely flesh out the characters before i even get to starting to fill out the story.


 No.16318

>>16315

I can't really offer any general advice that isn't an oft repeated platitude like "learn to read like an author" (which really is good advice). You already have the basics of a good story in terms of lucid prose that can keep the story moving, you just need to turn the images into an interesting aggregate.

Some further observations, though. After the midpoint my expectations were painted by the similarities I thought I started to see to Lovecraft. There's the rather nondescript first person narrator, a basis on American folk lore (real or created for the convenience of the plot, though HPL would have quickly expanded the scope), but the main thing was that after the night time drive, the story seemed to assume the unfolding mystery investigation structure utilized by (but, granted, not unique to) HPL. The deepening of that mystery with layered and possibly more unreliable narration (the fireman's story; it has the narrator telling about the fireman talking about the police hinting to what they saw/knew) worked well to pique at least my interest, but the story disappointingly ended before that build-up got anywhere. An outline would help and it was part of the advice HPL gave about these kinds of stories: first write down what all that happens chronologically including outside the time frame of the story itself, and then write the story itself from the chosen point of view, time and place. That way you can keep the main mystery act straight while hinting to relevant and irrelevant stuff to create excitement and sense of a deeper world. Just pick up your own literary obsessions instead of trying to copy Lovecraft's.

One good trick for short stories is to pick a theme, no matter how lowbrow you are aiming for. If several separate aspects of the story tie into each other thematically, it creates an aura of a deeper purpose, even if there really isn't much meaning to any of it. It also makes the writing process easier, as when you struggle coming up with anything, you can consider what would further the chosen themes and build up from there. And you can always ditch the initial theme if you come up with something better. It's not like you need to explicitly tell the audience what the themes arPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


 No.16321

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>>16311

its been updated


 No.16322

any criticism would be fine, btw.


 No.16324

>>16322

Essays aren't quite my thing so I can't quite give objective feedback that forwards you as a writer, but I'm reading through it.

Generally, what I don't like is an abstraction from data and the observations presented based on Preface, Chapter 1, and Chapter 2. But that generally extends to my POV on essays. Suppose you were to convince me of your stances, which I guess is the intent. I can't concretely defend your beliefs should I debate them because the data is not there. The language is florid and references Greek myths, but that's not quite defensible in a modern debate.

e.g

>To kill useless people, to create

>chaos, so that maybe, just maybe our world can reduce the number of consumers and

>providers to a small minority so that humans can actually "live life" instead of just

>merely existing.

There's no demonstration or proof that this accomplishes the goals in mind. Who are the useless people, and how would you distinguish the useless from people who are slackers, demoralized, but otherwise useful (i.e the case of unrecognized talent)?




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 No.16316[Reply]

I'm currently reading "The Blank Slate: A Modern Denial of Human Nature" from Steven Pinker.

It was published on 2002, so is it still worth reading today? Is it scientifically dated? Any better book on human genetic/biological determinsm of human nature, race realism etc?

 No.16317

Pinker is an idiot, he despises Hegel and is a liberal wanker




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 No.16314[Reply]

https://pastebin.com/twkVs3r0

Anyone wanna give feedback on my creative writing?

 No.16319

>search url

>he posted it on cuckchan as well

wtf op, if you're so desperate for input you may as well post it on r*dd*t at this point.


 No.16323

>>16319

>Shill appears

>Posted their shit on cuckchan too.

Everytime.




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 No.12183[Reply]

What's the best place to start exploring this great school of thought?

>inb4 muh Cultural Marxism

I'm not interested in your anti-intellectual bourgeoise conspiracy theories, /pol/.

I'm in for the pursuit of truth.

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 No.16304

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 No.16305

>>16304

That's one of the worst ms paint faces I've seen yet.


 No.16310

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>>16304

>Fuck you for not listening to my argument

>As such I will not listen to yours

Perfect reaction indeed.

Get the fuck back to

>>>/reddit/

>>>/leftypol/

Any good leftist would listen to fascists then disarm their argument, only defeatists who constantly are told and regurgitate "Don't argue with fascists" don't.


 No.16312

I use their theories against them. Go to the writers thread




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 No.16299[Reply]

This is a dead board. Hello there!

 No.16300

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I dont think this one will work, and i dont know why but whatever. Here


 No.16301

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>>16300

>>16299

Jee check out of these DUBS nibba hehe




 No.16298[Reply]

I'm looking for a book that guides you on how to survive the galaxy or even just earth. It would be really cool to find a mans guide to earth or the galaxy.



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 No.16287[Reply]

Mediterranean nonfiction literature.

>topic

Post about it, recommend things.

Can be from any era BEFORE the fall of Rome in September 4, 476 AD

Can be about anything but preferably no christcuckery or pagan retardation, lets keep it simple - wars about pure greed are always good.

 No.16297

Imperium by Robert Harris was really good.




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 No.8458[Reply]

http://www.parentherald.com/articles/17911/20160128/the-winds-of-winter-release-date-update-george-rr-martin-book-nowhere-near-finished.htm

Hello everyone, I am a lazy fatass fuck. It takes me 7 fucking years to write a penny-dreadful, film-script based "novel". And it doesn't matter that it's my full time fucking job, literally the only thing I'm required to do, or that I jack off at 67 years of age by taking bum fuck vacations all over the world to live off the prestige of my now stagnate series that I can't fucking finish, that I'm constantly giving interviews and bullshit for the industry, and that I'm writing OTHER books that literally no one gives a fuck about. That's right, I'm not writing for the series that is the sole reason for all my fame and which everyone wants, no, I write other books that are truly shit and no one gives a fuck about. And when those that gave me all this money call me out on this shit, the best I can do is twiddle my fat fingers, flip them off and then whine on my blog about how ashamed I am of being a lazy fatass fuck. Oh, did I mention that I waste time playing videogames? I have all this responsibility, I'm 67 fucking years old and I waste time playing videogames, because that's really going to get the job done and get all these people off my back. Did I mention I'm a lazy fatass fuck?

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 No.16136

>>15929

Pretty much every character in ASOIAF is fucking low quality, anon. If it wasn't for all the sex tacked on, nobody would've even cared about the books, let alone the show - it's for people who think they're too mature for orcs and elves all the while it's got the substance of an emo tween's diary entry hating his parents for telling him to mow the lawn. GOT is literally the most overrated show ever made, and any other writer would've used said overratedness to their advantage unlike GRRM, who's too busy whining about an irrelevant franchise like the NY Jets than actually, y'know, writing.


 No.16248

it's all up to the fatman now.


 No.16251

>>16248

It is going to be shit anyway, it will end in the same way as the show ended.

I hope people use this chance to create high quality fun fiction.


 No.16262

>>16248

He all but confirmed that the book will be finished for the Hugo Awards in New Zealand next year, but yeah, it is too little too late. Especially after GoT's last few seasons.


 No.16296

Why is Gregory R.R. Muffin so fat? How do people get this fat? Does he stuff his face with food to research medieval royalty?




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 No.15851[Reply]

if people were deprived of individuality and ambition, the world could become a better place. There could be a world government that he

would provideto the world of stability. People would be happy without ever wanting something they could not get. Having a similar worldview and mentality, ride

the same cars, living in the same homes or apartments, having the same entertainment, living in a state of blissful ignorance about

passions and strong emotions could be so conditioned that they would practically be unable to act otherwise than they should.

When reading the book "Brave New World ", I always wonder: what exactly is wrong with the world described there? Wars, hunger and diseases have stopped.

Social hierarchy still exists, but those at the bottom are genetically designed so that they do not bother them, they even enjoy what they are. Blessed soma

it is enough for everyone, there is a joyful consumption and freedom of manners. Few visionaries get deported, but so what? New ideas, books or inventions

they would only destroy the previous harmony built with such difficulty. It does not sound like an dystopia, rather the opposite of dystopia.

If our goal is universal happiness and security, the individual's freedom seems to be a temporary, unsuccessful experiment that is an obstacle to his reached.

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 No.15868

>>15866

I, for one, welcome our new Chinese overlords.


 No.15968

What did you space this like an asshole? Also if you can't see whats so bad about the world they live in you didn't read it. All the main characters suffer for different reasons. One of them saw what the world really was and knew it was all bullshit. his date had a mental break down just from watching water crash onto the beach. The other thought "oh brave new world" and couldn't wait to see it, well we both know how that worked out for him

.


 No.15971

Lol did you keep word wrap on


 No.16293

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>If our goal is universal happiness and security

The entire point of this book is that it challenges this very goal.

The utopian projects of the modernist experiment have all been criticized because 'they don't work/are impossible'.

Here Huxley shows it to you, and it's shown for what it really is.


 No.16295

I think in BNW people are engineered to be happy with their situation, it is only the few errors in the system that rebel (the protag, who turned out ugly even if being of higher caste, the other guy, who is so perfect that got uninterested in sex and soma, thus bored with society, and the Savage, who grew up with religious shame of pleasure).

The thing is, in real life, we are all errors in the system. We all have our little particularities and neurosis, we would never become that homogenous society if a BNW-like system was imposed on us. It doesn't matter what kind of social engeneering "our chinese overlords" come up with, without pre-manufecturing peoples very core, to a biological level, their perfect society would never work. I mean, people could conform, as they do in totalitarian regimes in the real world, but only to a superficial degree. It wouldn't be the perfect society described in the book.




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