/islam/ - 8ch Masjid

>>11423

Oh wow! Thanks for posting this.

Fortunately for me, I don't use Cinnamon. But this is a bit disturbing. I'll be careful in the future.

>Muslims are not only in my country, but in my autism as well

Go back to your goats mohamadden heathens

>>11187

>goats

clearly we prefer ponies

>>11188

Digits confirm pony superiority

>>11500

> I am not accustomed to Islamic rituals

Well, you're in luck! You've thought about becoming Orthodox Christian, yes? Well, compared to O.C., Islam is practically devoid of ritual.

A few very simple prayer positions and, since you'll be surrounded on all sides by brothers in Islam, then you can easily watch and follow their lead.

Muslims are very, very welcoming of new people. Just go to the mosque and say, "I'm new." and they will instruct you and show you the ropes. There will even be a brother who becomes sort of an instructor who will personally take it upon himself to guide you.

>there is no way back

Well, yes, you can always renounce Islam; but why would you want to join something with the thought of wanting a way out?

>parents hostile to Islam

Part of Jihad is the struggle against what others may think of you.

>>11500

We already have a thread like this, stop spamming them.

I think a better idea would be to find someone from this board to walk you through the basic stuff and you can ask them. Since you said you are afraid to ask in real life you can always be anonymous and ask.I am sure if you everyone here is willing to help. (btw I am talking like be friends on steam/skype/facebook which is a more direct approach )

>>11502

Wait what?

>>11482

>>11483

"And of His signs are the night and day and the sun and moon. Do not prostrate to the sun or to the moon, but prostate to Allah , who created them, if it should be Him that you worship." - Quran 41:37

>>11482

It's clear you are here to cause trouble, we caught you, now go back to /pol/ and leave us alone.

al-lat has no connection to Allah. Several idols and temples to this false goddess were destroyed, and is even exposed as nothing in the Quran, here:

"So have you considered al-Lat and al-'Uzza? And Manat, the third - the other one? Is the male for you and for Him the female? That, then, is an unjust division. They are not but [mere] names you have named them - you and your forefathers - for which Allah has sent down no authority. They follow not except assumption and what [their] souls desire, and there has already come to them from their Lord guidance." Quran 53:19-23

Board owner watch out for this guy he is here to cause trouble.

>>11495

Wow I didn't catch that there, good eyes brother.

>>11490

Nor do I believe they're right about everything either, Just like Jews may be right about Tawhid at least to a degree doesn't mean they're right about everything else either, if you see what I'm getting at.

>>11491

>they are not in the wrong for taking slaves

I have to say that is at least half wrong. Islam treats slavery like a social illness, and some social illnesses can't be abolished outright. Take slavery here in America as an example, when it was suddenly abolished it caused social issues and resentment that still exist today (and I'm not saying slavery should still exist here in america, it never should have existed in the first place, raiding the coast of africa for slaves would have not been permissible under Islam.) Islam sought to fix the problem of slavery gradually so it imposed several restrictions on taking new slaves and gave out several opportunities and rewards for releasing slaves, along with rules and regulations on owning and taking care of slaves. I think it is safe to say that Islam recognized slavery as a bad thing and sought ways to get rid of it gradually.

>>11493

I do agree it's better to release a slave there are many rewards for that in the afterlife, but you can also see how slavery if practiced properly can allow for the opportunity to learn about and embrace Islam. If you look through history you can see how slaves who were captured in war by Muslims, turned around and became some of the biggest supporters of Islam. Such as the Mamluks who started as kaffir slaves from Turkic and Slavic tribes but then became Muslim and saved the Muslim world from the Mongol invasion.

>>11494

There were some benefits long ago, and that is why I don't think it was abolished outright like alcohol eventually was, but I don't think it applies today's world and society.

I do think there is a degree of arrogance in a man that desires to own another human being, especially when it is no longer common place. And as good Muslims we should avoid arrogant acts.

>>11452

>>11453

Oh I see you banned him (a little harsh of a reaction, but you do your thing because I get you can see stuff we can't, such as past posts)

=BUT=

I was all ready for his response though, he was going to say something like drawing images is haram and I was going to say it's okay (at least from my understanding and research) that cartoons are fine because they are not meant to depict real people and the more abstract the cartoon is the more okay it is. The only thing I found that might count as haram is wasting your time with cartoons/anime when you could be more productive, or that some cartoons/anime that depict haram things or behavior.

We could also turn this thread into a discussion about why certain drawing are okay, cartoons and nature drawings, and certain drawing are bad, real life people and animals. From what I understood it was trying to copy the image something that had a soul? (I could be wrong about that). Or the more realistic it is the more it's trying to copy the actual creation of God.

It's interesting to note that Islam allows toys and dolls and statues of trees but not real life statues of people. There was a hadeith that talked about the angel Gabriel coming to Muhammad and telling him he was not allowed to visit with him when he was around a statue of a person and if he removed the head of the statue it could be counted as a statue of a tree (thus making it abstract) and he could visit him in that place again.

>>11455

I can't be bothered to deal with people who can't tell the difference between Sunnah and Hadith.

But, I gave him 48 hours. Mostly because it is his one and only post on this board in the entire history of this board. Doesn't bode well.

>>11458

>I can't be bothered to deal with people who can't tell the difference between Sunnah and Hadith.

All he said was that anime is haram though…

>>11459

Right … and I'm sure he'd pull the hadith against images out of his ass. But to remind him that hadith aren't necessarily sunnah shouldn't be needed.

If he were Muslim, which he is clearly not.

Anime is not haram by Qur'an or Sunnah, so it is not haram. He came to troll and I can smell a troll like a fart in a car. Give them an inch and they'll think they're a ruler.

>>11419

Well, at least I'm literate.

I have asked this hundreds of times but no Muslim has ever been able to answer me.

I wish to read the Quran and the Haddiths. I do not speak Arabic or Persian. What Quran is right for me if I speak English?

>>11456

lurk more, there is a thread about this >>11250

*explodes*

>>11461

Great … now we need a mop.

This is a very strange thread.

Something makes me think this thread is a ruse, but for what purpose? If not, OP should talk to someone about their problems, maybe the imam at their mosque?

>>11434

If you think you have a problem, either physically or mentally, then you need to see a physician. Muslims have understood illnesses of the mind and body for centuries. There is nothing of which to be ashamed.

>>11280

Horny little rat

>>11334

Please don't call me that.

>>11392

Forgive our simple minded /pol/ friend. He has not learned yet how to comport himself in civilized company.

I will apologize on his behalf.

>>11393

That's so sweet of you, thanks.

Modesty requirements are for both men and women. Because of culture and politics requirements tend to be strictly enforced for women but loosely for men but this is culture not religion. In truth both men and women must dress modestly but full coverings like the burka or niqab are completely unnecessary. Men's clothing must be loose and while most say that it must only cover from knees to naval but unless you are laboring outside I would argue true modesty would entail covering the legs down to the ankles the full torso with long sleeves and preferably a hat or other head covering so basically the same requirements for women. But I am not a scholar that is just my opinion.

As for most other issues women do have many rights under Islam virtually all gender discrimination in "Muslim" countries is culture and politics separate from or even directly opposed to Islam. In fact there are some areas where women are meant to have more rights than men. Women are allowed to keep the money they earn separate but men are required to use their money to support their family.

>>11403

>we can't obey Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم) anymore because he is dead

When someone leaves behind instructions and explanations, then yes we can. Do you honestly believe you have any original questions to ask that the Prophet didn't hear in his day?

The Sunnah is part of Qur'an. That is immutable fact, ordained by Allah. If you remove Sunnah, then you are removing part of Qur'an.

This makes you worse than a non-believer because you claim to be Muslim, where the non-believer does not.

>>11404

>The Sunnah is part of Qur'an. That is immutable fact, ordained by Allah. If you remove Sunnah, then you are removing part of Qur'an.

>The Oral Law is part of the Torah

>The Church is part of the teachings of Jesus

All this [foul language] has ALWAYS been used to corrupt the deen of God (swt) by man made garbage

>>11405

I brought my proof, from Qur'an itself. If you deny Qur'an, then you deny Islam. If you deny Islam, then you deny Allah.

If you deny Allah, then you have no reason to be on this board.

>>11406

The evidence is strong enough in Surah An-Nisa alone. Not only do they not understand the science of hadith, they can't justify their case with the Quran, apart from pulling a tiny handful of ayat unrelated to the Sunnah.

>>11415

Some of the greatest scholars of Islam were non-arab. Imam Bukhari is a great example.

>>11359

>infidels

Yeah its very clear you are not a real Muslim, go roleplay somewhere else.

>>11359

>make islam great again

>infidels

The stink of /pol/ is thick here.

>>11379

It's most likely Donald Trump come here to troll us.

>>11381

If we could convert Trump to Islam, that would be a great victory indeed.

>>11387

Hey that idea is not too far off, remember what people said about Umar bin al-Khattab before he converted to Islam.

Umar used to be one of Islam's worst enemies and people would say his donkey would convert to Islam before he did, but he ended up converting anyways and ended up becoming one the greatest and most pious Muslim rulers in history.

I love Umar's conversion story too.

OP Bro don't be an idiot. This is a bad time for muslims. According to hadith prophecy millions of muslims will be killed by people of other faith. This was foretold and there is nothing that can stop this. Just be who you are, be safe and help muslims(if you want).

>>11239

But Saudis give quran translation for free. Send a letter to saudi embassy in your country, you'll get one.

Translation is not forbidden. You just need to acknowledge it would never as good as understanding it in arabic.

>>11023

It's sad to hear that many ethnicities isolate themselves like that. If you live in a big enough town there should be a more cosmopolitan islamic centre.

>>11328

I'm starting to realize that anyone who uses the term "Wahabbi" doesn't care about facts or reality. It is a scapegoat for people who follow innovations and secular ideologies.

>>11339

I used to use the term "Wahabbist" to refer to Salafi Jihadists, but this board actually taught me that Wahab was a scholar and teacher, not a movement.

>>11380

Alhamdulillah, I am glad you understand now. We all mistakes, myself especially.

That is part of the problem too. This term is so actively used now, people associate it to a certain group not even knowing what it means. I have read blogs from Muslims using this term and I am shocked at how strong their opinions are with how little they know.

>>11365

I don't think there is a person here that believes you are a real Muslim (unless they are new to Islam or a non-Muslim visitor).

And I'm pretty sure when you change your IP to something different we will still be able to spot you.

And just to let you know if you decide to say or do anything illegal, proxies won't help you, the FBI caught Joshua Goldberg and he supposedly hid behind 7 proxies.

>>11383

He could be what we call a "cultural muslim". Someone raised in Islamic traditions, though without the benefit of a Muslim education.

A lot of Pakistani Shi'a and Indian Sunni are like that. Muslim in name only.

>>11383

Who is this Joshua Goldberg?

FBI will arrest you for being a terrorist recruiter. I hope they do. No offense. Why do they give visas to terrorists like you?

>>11389

>Joshua Goldberg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Ryne_Goldberg

Nobody here is a terrorist recruiter.

>>11389

Someone else who thought it would be funny to pretend to be Muslim. It didn't turn out too well for him in the end, thanks to the FBI.

>>11386

He uses the word "infidel" (along with other things only people pretending to be Muslims would say) he is definitely not any kind of Muslim. And it's pretty easy to change your IP so you can get a different country's flag on here, I've seen it done on other boards, in fact I saw someone go through all of Africa's flags in one thread and it was clearly the same guy because of what his posts had in them.

>>11330

>What am I supposed to answer if a non-muslim asked me this?

Nothing. We don't worry about what non-Muslims think. Allah will steer who He wills, not us.

>>11330

Its clear from your other posts on this board you are a non-muslim and are just pretending to be Muslim because you are pathetic and have nothing better to do. We've dealt with posters like you before and are used to it.

Pot calling kettle black. May Allah restore your dead braincells.

We were having nice conversation and you just had to jump in and ruin it! Not nice. I will never forgive you and keep you from entering jannah.

>>11362

>I will never forgive you and keep you from entering jannah.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't work like that.

>>11362

>I will never forgive you

Your forgiveness is neither asked for, nor required, by anyone.

>keep you from entering jannah

That's a power you'll never have.