/islam/ - 8ch Masjid

>>11423

Oh wow! Thanks for posting this.

Fortunately for me, I don't use Cinnamon. But this is a bit disturbing. I'll be careful in the future.

>>11500

In the same situation as you, I wish you look and the blessings of allah (swt) on you.

>>11536

Why should I become a salafi? They kill other muslims because they disagree with their doctrinal thought. The shahada is very clear in this, in my opinion; There is no God but God and Mohammed is his messenger. That's it.

>>11543

Mashallah, thank you brother. May Allah (swt) guide you to the right path as he will guide me. And hopefully, brother, one day we will see eachother when our paths cross.

>>11551

There isn't really much of a difference between normal Sunnis and Normal Salafis, we all follow the same Sunna.

>>11558

This is true. A lot of the difference comes in how the religion is practiced. Most Sunni are casual, cultural Muslims. They're Muslim, but don't really strictly follow the Islamic way of life.

Salafiyah tend to be much more orthodox, following the letter of the law and adhering strictly to the Islamic way as per the teachings of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab.

>>11559

>Salafiyah tend to be much more orthodox, following the letter of the law and adhering strictly to the Islamic way as per the teachings of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab.

Wouldn't that be Wahhabism?

There is a very nice wikipedia article about Ibadi.

In short: They are neither Sunni nor Shi'a. They follow the Prophet as closely as possible to how he lived during his lifetime, rather than based on his successors. Same 5 pillars, same sunnah.

The biggest difference between Ibadi and Sunni/Shi'a is Ibadi believe hell is everlasting, eternal punishment.

>>11538

I'm pretty sure they're are an offshoot of the Kharijites that decided to settle down if I'm correct. Then their leader brought them all to Oman or something like that, so there are a ton of Ibadis there.

>>11540

This brother is right they're still pretty close to the Sunna unlike the Shia, so they're alright I guess.

>>11545

>I'm pretty sure they're are an offshoot of the Kharijites that decided to settle down if I'm correct.

They were a very settled down version. They also avoided all the radical beliefs that Kharijites had.

I'm not a Ibadi myself but I think they are in a good position currently to serve as mediators between Shia and Sunnis in the middle east.

>>11538

Nice read…

https://islamqa.info/en/11529

>>11548

He hasn't said anything illegal to merit a visit by law enforcement; but he did violate the rules of the board.

>>11552

Still he needs to be on a watchlist.

>>11553

The FBI already watches this board and this website. If they see something they need information on the user for, then they will subpoena the information from the site admin.

>>11553

If you're a Muslim you're probably watchlisted already, but that doesn't seem to stop much anyways.

>>11557

Nah, not really. Just being Muslim isn't enough to get on a watchlist. Most people know that only a small sect of Muslims are the guys going around causing all the ruckus and that the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful, regular folks just going about their day to day lives.

Nobody here supports ISIS. You need >>>/islamicstate/

>>11495

>>11486

>al-lat

I meant to write allah, it was a typo. I didn't even know about the Alat.

>>11499

And I'm not causing trouble. Anime can be haram. I mean I guess it depends.

Either way I have been abstaining from fap and misguided things studying my copy of the Quran that I bought.

>>11542

> I have been abstaining from fap

Why? That's not necessarily haram.

>>11544

Its an unhealthy habit of mine and I feel that it is dragging me away from Allah (swt). Also the fact 80% of it is not straight is an afront to the lord.

>>11499

I guess you were right about the anime thread, good call.

>>11216

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYedKXpb5mo

>>11404

>The Sunnah is part of Qur'an. That is immutable fact, ordained by Allah. If you remove Sunnah, then you are removing part of Qur'an.

>The Oral Law is part of the Torah

>The Church is part of the teachings of Jesus

All this [foul language] has ALWAYS been used to corrupt the deen of God (swt) by man made garbage

>>11405

I brought my proof, from Qur'an itself. If you deny Qur'an, then you deny Islam. If you deny Islam, then you deny Allah.

If you deny Allah, then you have no reason to be on this board.

>>11406

The evidence is strong enough in Surah An-Nisa alone. Not only do they not understand the science of hadith, they can't justify their case with the Quran, apart from pulling a tiny handful of ayat unrelated to the Sunnah.

>>11415

Some of the greatest scholars of Islam were non-arab. Imam Bukhari is a great example.

Islam allows apostates to live under the condition that they do not attack muslims when they leave as >>11233 stated.

>Muslims are not only in my country, but in my autism as well

Go back to your goats mohamadden heathens

>>11187

>goats

clearly we prefer ponies

>>11188

Digits confirm pony superiority

>>11504

the bottom one is the phonetic arabic spelling of rarity ra ri ti

the top say short mare literally: the mare that's short

my arabic is rusty though

Probably, but it's a very complex issue. If it does happen, it will be over the course of several decades; and I'll be long dead.

>>11008

NAK has been disappointing lately. Fabricating a story around a hadith, which lead to lying on the messenger and belittling the importance of Aqeedah were bad moves. Those that actually listen to scholars have called him out on this, which he doesn't apologize for or correct. I still remember him posting on Facebook that he wasn't knowledgeable in Hadith, yet he continues to give tafsirs. It would be one thing if he was translating Tafsirs from actual scholars, but to make his own, this is where errors come in.

>>11013

Any story/khutbah in particular you can think of?

>>11049

He has been called out for not citing any reference to this story surrounding a hadith (I still haven't seen any source for it):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bws53iOsDis

He made a statement on Facebook after being called out for this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYoXqtIjkH4

His statement (find it on his FB page) did not apologize for it but told a story about his experiences with the many Masjids he has visited and division among the Ummah. Cool story bro, but irrelevant.

He made a statement on FB about not being qualified to be asked about Hadith's about a year - 2 years ago. You can probably find it. I don't follow him anymore. This disqualifies him from giving Tafsirs, which include his own methods.

If anyone has found a response to these things, please share. I just do not trust the guy, and he is not a scholar. People are paying to learn from him, and he doesn't correct or admit his misguidance's.

>>11490

Nor do I believe they're right about everything either, Just like Jews may be right about Tawhid at least to a degree doesn't mean they're right about everything else either, if you see what I'm getting at.

>>11491

>they are not in the wrong for taking slaves

I have to say that is at least half wrong. Islam treats slavery like a social illness, and some social illnesses can't be abolished outright. Take slavery here in America as an example, when it was suddenly abolished it caused social issues and resentment that still exist today (and I'm not saying slavery should still exist here in america, it never should have existed in the first place, raiding the coast of africa for slaves would have not been permissible under Islam.) Islam sought to fix the problem of slavery gradually so it imposed several restrictions on taking new slaves and gave out several opportunities and rewards for releasing slaves, along with rules and regulations on owning and taking care of slaves. I think it is safe to say that Islam recognized slavery as a bad thing and sought ways to get rid of it gradually.

>>11493

I do agree it's better to release a slave there are many rewards for that in the afterlife, but you can also see how slavery if practiced properly can allow for the opportunity to learn about and embrace Islam. If you look through history you can see how slaves who were captured in war by Muslims, turned around and became some of the biggest supporters of Islam. Such as the Mamluks who started as kaffir slaves from Turkic and Slavic tribes but then became Muslim and saved the Muslim world from the Mongol invasion.

>>11494

There were some benefits long ago, and that is why I don't think it was abolished outright like alcohol eventually was, but I don't think it applies today's world and society.

I do think there is a degree of arrogance in a man that desires to own another human being, especially when it is no longer common place. And as good Muslims we should avoid arrogant acts.

>>11452

>>11453

Oh I see you banned him (a little harsh of a reaction, but you do your thing because I get you can see stuff we can't, such as past posts)

=BUT=

I was all ready for his response though, he was going to say something like drawing images is haram and I was going to say it's okay (at least from my understanding and research) that cartoons are fine because they are not meant to depict real people and the more abstract the cartoon is the more okay it is. The only thing I found that might count as haram is wasting your time with cartoons/anime when you could be more productive, or that some cartoons/anime that depict haram things or behavior.

We could also turn this thread into a discussion about why certain drawing are okay, cartoons and nature drawings, and certain drawing are bad, real life people and animals. From what I understood it was trying to copy the image something that had a soul? (I could be wrong about that). Or the more realistic it is the more it's trying to copy the actual creation of God.

It's interesting to note that Islam allows toys and dolls and statues of trees but not real life statues of people. There was a hadeith that talked about the angel Gabriel coming to Muhammad and telling him he was not allowed to visit with him when he was around a statue of a person and if he removed the head of the statue it could be counted as a statue of a tree (thus making it abstract) and he could visit him in that place again.

>>11455

I can't be bothered to deal with people who can't tell the difference between Sunnah and Hadith.

But, I gave him 48 hours. Mostly because it is his one and only post on this board in the entire history of this board. Doesn't bode well.

>>11458

>I can't be bothered to deal with people who can't tell the difference between Sunnah and Hadith.

All he said was that anime is haram though…

>>11459

Right … and I'm sure he'd pull the hadith against images out of his ass. But to remind him that hadith aren't necessarily sunnah shouldn't be needed.

If he were Muslim, which he is clearly not.

Anime is not haram by Qur'an or Sunnah, so it is not haram. He came to troll and I can smell a troll like a fart in a car. Give them an inch and they'll think they're a ruler.

>>11419

Well, at least I'm literate.

I have asked this hundreds of times but no Muslim has ever been able to answer me.

I wish to read the Quran and the Haddiths. I do not speak Arabic or Persian. What Quran is right for me if I speak English?

>>11456

lurk more, there is a thread about this >>11250

*explodes*

>>11461

Great … now we need a mop.

This is a very strange thread.

Something makes me think this thread is a ruse, but for what purpose? If not, OP should talk to someone about their problems, maybe the imam at their mosque?

>>11434

If you think you have a problem, either physically or mentally, then you need to see a physician. Muslims have understood illnesses of the mind and body for centuries. There is nothing of which to be ashamed.