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"Allah is but one God. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs." [4:171]

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1c7181 No.21874[Reply]


A thread for everything about memorizing al Quran al Kareem.

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3d533c No.22056

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There are three seasons of Traveler With The Quran on youtube. The show is hosted by Sheikh Fahad al-Kandari. He travels the world to visit huffadh. He has another show where he travels the world to visit reverts.

This is a clip from him in Mauritania explaining why we memorize.

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1e1e09 No.11001[Reply]

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

This board is the 8chan Masjid and should be treated as such. It is a place for Muslims to gather and discuss Islam and not intended as a place where Muslims must defend themselves or their religion from outsiders. If you would not do it in a real mosque in the real world, then don't do it here.

Deliberate trolling/baiting and personal attacks will not be tolerated. /pol/-like behavior can stay on /pol/.


Useful Links

If you'd like to suggest links or tips for this sticky, be sure to let me know!

http://sunnah.com/ - The Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

http://quran.com/ - Read and listen to Qur'an online.

http://www.inter-islam.org/Seerah/ - Biography of the Prophet Muhammad( عليه السلام‎)

[email protected] - Board Owner email

Current Volunteers: Two (Vol1 and Akhi)

Useful Tips

Obviously from time to time someone will come to this board and they wish to discuss a portion of Qur'an or the life of the Prophet(عليه السلام) or the tribal practices of certain people(s). There is nothing wrong with questioning and questions should never be shunned. All answers lay within Qur'an.

Taqiyya (تقية) is the Shi'a practice of concealing one's religion when in a life threatening situation and is unheard of in Sunni fiqh. It is NOT a license to spread misinformation or lie about Islam to non-Believers. Anyone who believes that everything you say, regardless of how well sourced, is a lie, then there is nothing you can do. Don't argue with them. Just smile Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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9784c3 No.21985

The recent rash of Christian immigrants from /christian/ are absolutely welcome on this board and we will happily discuss our common love of Jesus(pbuh) and our shared histories. However, keep in mind a few things:

1] Deliberate trolling, spamming, and disrespect will be met with deletions and bans. Visitors are welcome, but they are expected to behave. If you cannot enjoy a nice conversation like an adult, then you may return from wherever you came.

2] We do not LARP. This is a Muslim board for Muslims. Nobody here is ISIS/al Qaeda/Taliban and treating us as such will not be tolerated.

3] Keep it to a couple of threads. There is no reason for every thread to turn into "Christianity vs. Islam". We are not enemies. If you believe us to be your enemy, then you may return to whatever board you came from.

4] Keep it civil. If you cannot discuss without being insulting or acting like a /pol/tard, then we don't want you here.

That's it. Enjoy!

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56f827 No.11002[Reply]

We need to take steps to ensure our privacy. Do not let them pull the "if you've got nothing to hide" card; that's like saying we don't need freedom of speech because "I have nothing to say." I have nothing to hide. I am not a terrorist nor am I interested in helping terrorists, but my emails and such are mine and I refuse to lay down and let the government walk all over my freedoms. So, if they want to exploit me, I'll make them work for it. So should you.

Important Tools:

https://piratebox.cc/openwrt:diy - Make as many of those as you can afford. It's like a private local cloud where information can continue to be shared.





Favorite Linux distributions:

https://tails.boum.org/ - Security anywhere you go on any computer.

http://www.backbox.org/ - I personally use this OS.

https://www.kali.org/ - Offensive defense.

http://www.ubuntu.com/ - The most common and user friendly OS.

https://trisquel.info/ - Based on Ubuntu but without added software.

https://www.torproject.org/ - Not useful by itself, but should be used in tandem with othPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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ab0fc8 No.22299[Reply]

The "Islamic House Of Wisdom", inspiration from the actual state in Baghdad, Iraq, is the unofficial multi- answering, questioning, and chatting general for the 8chan Masjid.

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// What is your stance of the ruling of Apostasy in the modern world? Should it still be allowed and prove Hadiths wrong?

Opposing sites:



//Why do Jews, historically, have much higher status in science and technology than us Muslims? Is there a philosophical turn point that stops Muslims from enduring in Judaism's science-related nature? If so, how can we Muslims exceed top in Scientific fields? Is it contradictory?

Opposing Sites:




- Saudi Cleric Flat Earth ( Explanation (?))


- Nouman Ali Khan Woman


- British Muslim Takeover Britain ( Explanation (?))


- Meccan Cleaning Doc.


ab282f No.22300

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what the hell is this?

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7569d7 No.19586[Reply]

Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread:

post all such queations here. I'll start with a few of my own.

As a non-Muslim (non-religious period) I wonder about the notion that God (Allah) "wants" things from us. "Wanting" to me feels like it implies a kind of inferior state, as though one was lacking something. Does Allah "want" things from mankind? To follow certain rules perhaps? Or is it not a matter of "wanting" but something else?

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5f42bf No.22274

What does it mean when the Quran says that Isa, aleyhi salam, is a Word from God?

54ae60 No.22284

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>She said, "My Lord, how will I have a child when no man has touched me?" [The angel] said, "Such is Allah ; He creates what He wills. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, 'Be,' and it is.

5f42bf No.22296

Does anyone know any good books/resources/videos on Islam geared specifically toward addressing/convincing a Jewish audience?

84fc64 No.22297


Sadly the website is currently down but it's still browseable here


84fc64 No.22298

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066d63 No.22290[Reply]

What are some contemporary Sufi orders and what are they like? Which are legit and which to be avoided? What do ya'll think of Shaykh Abdalqadir as-Sufi and the Murabitun? Anyone here knowledgeable on contemporary Sufism?

fa3af0 No.22291

AbdalQadir was doing some weird stuff involving Hitlerism in the 70's and 80's but it seems like he straightened out since.

Nuh Ha Meem Keller was doing great work in years past, now former students say his compound in Jordan is a full on cult. Check him out for yourself though.

If you go to most mosques, especially desi ones you could get involved with tableeghi jamaat. I've spent a lot of time with them, they're definitely legit.

Some wellknown and transparent/respected sufi orgs are in California led by Hamza Yusuf and Habib ali Jifri's middleeastern projects. Also, you should contact Timothy Winter (Abdal Hakim Murad) on twitter. Sheikh Abdal Hakim might answer you, I imagine. You could also try to contact Mohammed Ghilan on twitter or even Zaid Shakir.

066d63 No.22292


>sufi orgs are in California

cool, any info on Cali based stuff is highly appreciated.

066d63 No.22293


Any book reccs to get adequately informed on the topic?

fa3af0 No.22294


When I rolled with tableeghi jamaat we read Quran obviously and also read daily from a book called Hayyatus Sahaba.

And Sheikh Hamza Yusuf has an online bookstore: https://sandala.org

066d63 No.22295




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a1fd37 No.20806[Reply]

>And it will not be possible to be and not to be the same thing, except in virtue of an ambiguity, just as if one whom we call ‘man’, others were to call ‘not-man’; but the point in question is not this, whether the same thing can at the same time be and not be a man in name, but whether it can in fact. – Aristotle, Metaphysics

>Numbers 23:19 “God is not a man, that He should lie, nor a son of man, that He should repent; has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?”

>1 Samuel 15:29 “And also the Glory of Israel will not lie or change His mind; for He is not a man that He should change His mind.”

>Job 9:32 “For He is not a man as I am that I may answer Him, that we may go to court together.”

The concept of trinity disagrees with both the scripture of the Hebrews and the logic of the Greeks – the two very things Hellenist Jews wanted so desperately to combine when they contrived Christianity.

The laws of the excluded middle and contradiction do not undermine monotheism, they demand it. They undermine the trinity which is rank paganism. Logic can be seen as negative theology (what God isn’t) while revelation is positive theology (what God is). Monotheism can only be undermined when the imperfect reasoning abilities of men are placed above revelation – which is exactly what the trinity doctrine does.

Divinity can be seen as “irrational” in the sense that the human mind alone cannot be expected to properly quantify it, hence the need for revelation from above. If we accept the premise of unrevealed divinity and its “irrationality” then monotheism is less irrational a priori than polytheism. In this same manner Unitarianism is less irrational than Trinitarianism. Then if we accept the premise of revealed divinity along with the veracity of Abrahamic scripture we find that monotheism is more veracious a posteriori than polytheism; similarly Unitarianism is more veracious than Trinitarianism. Trinity is subrational whereas Tawhid is (supra)rational; Trinity is extra-scriptural whereas Tawhid is scriptural.

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db81f4 No.22235

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Based Rabbi Toviah: I'm Glad Muslims Enjoy my Work. Muslims are Targeted by Christians and if a Muslim Becomes a Christian he Becomes an Idolator and That's a Disaster.

e2a9ef No.22252

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Trinitarian Apologists: Useful Idiots for Islam

ebd0c1 No.22256


This apparently garnered its own thread on /christian/. They literally cannot stop talking about us.

e2a9ef No.22259

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We have them on the run.

vid related.

dbe350 No.22289

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4848ca No.22261[Reply]

If you would start a new Muslim Caliphate judged by all Muslims in the world, where will its capital be, how will its government work and what fiqh is it going to follow? + how big is its borders and how is going to be ots diplomacy to the world?

Fantasize or give convincing arguments/opinions if you like im this thread.

Note that this thread is only about The caliphates, government, and relations etc.

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79a29a No.22276


Why would it be haram? If followed properly it's basically someone who spends all his time perfecting his deen, combatting inner forms of shirk, and performing dhkir. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

bc5870 No.22279

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As long as you're a sunni muslim you can call yourself a sufi and associate with others who refer to themselves such. It's perfectly fine.

c6041c No.22282

Khilafah constantly expanding, capital should be obviously mecca or medinah, but if that wasn't the case, Sana'a should be the capital. It should start in Yemen and expand to the Levant, Africa, Andalus and to the east all the way to Indonesia. Then from there, the world

809a1d No.22285





decentralized shura council


all valid schools


all countries with muslim majority


enjoin the good and forbid the evil

it would be like the OIC but with gold currency, united army and a shared islamic constitution that allows some degree of flexibility depending on the fiqh school

950ece No.22288

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Londonistan and Birmingham ash-Shareef


King Charles and Prince William, absolute Islamic monarchy


Hanafi deobandi


Former british empire, former ottoman empire, former rashidun caliphate


BDS, Islamifying India, skirmishes against USA, containing China, toppling Bashar Assad, toppling Iranian regime.

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3b0e5e No.22239[Reply]

ITT: Post nasheeds. Every nasheed you got. Just post em.

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f3b5ee No.22272[Reply]

How do posters here feel about perennialism in general―basically the belief that underlying the world's varying traditions is one universal and ultimately incommunicable (in its essence) Truth? This is a bit oversimplified of a definition and could use quite a few conditions and caveats to moderate it, but it's basically the idea. I ask because I'm very sympathetic to Islam and I've come close to converting before but I'm worried about what the reception of some of my views will be by other Muslims (unfortunately I don't know any personally). I'm quite averse to any extreme form of "exclusivism" (i.e. only we are right and everyone else is going to hell).

Hopefully this thread will turn up some interesting conversation, and you guys can help clear my doubts insha'Allah.

19e9b0 No.22277

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Allah says in the Quran every nation was sent a messenger. We accept that and any authentic hadith on the topic - but beyond that is just individual speculation with no basis in our religion. We say, Allah knows best.

If you uphold the five pillars of Islam and six pillars of Iman then you are a Muslim.

Muslims are of course allowed to hold some ideas others may view as eccentric. But if they do, then they should be prepared to defend them since there is always passionate debate going on in the community.

f3b5ee No.22278


How come following the sunnah of the Prophet, sallalahu aleyhi wasalam, isn't among the pillars―isn't that also an essential part of being a Muslim? Or is it basically implied since, for example, you can't really perform salat if you don't know the correct way?

19e9b0 No.22280

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>Or is it basically implied since, for example, you can't really perform salat if you don't know the correct way?

Exactly. In The Quran, Allah awj tells us what to do and Muhammad asw shows us how. The Prophet asw did all those things he taught us, they are part of the Sunnah.

f3b5ee No.22281


What about sunnah that don't relate to any of the other pillars? Like sunnah about how to groom facial hair and so on. Are they obligatory and if so why?

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There is a scholarly consensus that gives guidelines for grooming. It's beneficial to adhere to as much as you can.

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869b6c No.21777[Reply]

For not being /fit/?

Is it because you don't have a based muslimbro as your personal trainer on-call 24/7? You don't have his brother - a halal nutrtionist muslimbro on-call 24/7? Those excuses are gone.

The stronger believer is better than the weaker believer. We're all gonna make it brahs. Checkout Champion Method - the Muslim fitness program.

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3917c1 No.22253


Pride/Vanity is a sin.

748f6d No.22254

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>being low test is cool and if you say something about it, you're sinful.

3917c1 No.22255


Calling people "low test" because they don't work out is nothing short of pure ignorance. As a matter of fact, the buzzword "low test" is meaningless.

I don't work out. At all. I find it a useless practice that would take time away from more important pursuits. Does that make me "low test"? Hardly. I'm harry as an Irish cow and have sired children, so my "test" levels are just fine.

The only reason people force the "dyel" meme is because of their vanity, which is a sin.

748f6d No.22257


That's not true and its not for you to judge someone else's motivation for discussing this topic.

Low-T is a common thing among middleaged men and often a topical testosterone cream helps the patient achieve a high quality of life - where otherwise anti-depressants would be prescribed.

t my grandfather was diagnosed as depressed and put on happypills but switched to test-boosters and is now doing great

3917c1 No.22258


If it weren't true, then why do the people who talk about lifting accompany it with images/videos of oiled up half-naked men?

>common among middle-aged men

I'm 45. Any more personal anecdotes you want to use to claim are hard data?

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a96119 No.21889[Reply]

Anas (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Prophet (ﷺ) forbade us from drinking while standing. Qatadah reported: "We asked him: 'What about eating?"' He said: "That is even worse, (or may be he said) more detestable."

“The Prophet (PBUH) never criticized any food (he was invited to) but he used to eat it if he liked the food, and leave it if he disliked it.”

“Nothing is worse than a person who fills his stomach. It should be enough for the son of Adam to have a few bites to satisfy his hunger. If he wishes more, it should be: One-third for his food, one-third for his liquids, and one-third for his breath.”

“Do not drink in one gulp like a camel, but in two or three (gulps). Mention the Name of Allah (i.e., say Bismillah) when you start drinking and praise Him (i.e., say Al-hamdu lillah) after you have finished (drinking).”

iv) Imam al-Sādiq (a): the Noble Prophet (s) used to lick his fingers after he ate.

[10]: It was also reported that he said, “I do not eat reclining.” [13]

Helpful links:

>Foods of the Prophet


>Unani Tibb:


>General Health Advice



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b4aa2b No.21981


Ibn Sina's Canon of Medicine

Talks about elements and humors

b4aa2b No.22238


Allah has mentioned milk to us, saying, "Rivers of milk the taste whereof does not change" (Qur'an 47:15). And again He said, "Pure milk, easy and agreeable to swallow for those who drink" (Qur'an 16:66). The Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.s.) is said to have remarked that milk is irreplaceable and that he himself loved milk.

Said the Prophet (s.a.w.s.): "Drink milk, for it wipes away heat from the heart as the finger wipes away sweat from the brow. Furthermore, it strengthens the back, increases the brain, augments the intelligence, renews vision, and drives away forgetfulness."


" The Prophet (s.a.w.s.) reportedly said that one who does not eat meat for forty consecutive days will waste away, whereas to eat meat for forty consecutive days will harden the heart. In other words, one should moderate the intake of meat.


Allah has said: "There comes forth, from within [the bee], a beverage of many colors in which there is a healing for you."

The Prophet (s.a.w.s.) once said, "By Him in whose hand is my soul, eat honey. For there is no house in which honey is kept for which the angels will not ask for mercy. If a person eats honey, a thousand remedies enter his stomach and a million diseases will come out. If a man dies and honey is found within him, fire will not touch his body [i.e., he will be immune from the burning of hell]." The Prophet (s.a.w.s.) himself used to drink a glass of honey and water each morning on an empty stomach.

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3df642 No.21671[Reply]

I know we have a lot of baby /islam/ics. MashaAllah. Got an 8 month old here.

Tips, tricks, resources, sharing struggles/triumphs, questions…

School: public or Islamic?

post'em here.

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0ed8a5 No.21750


other than perhaps Evola, none of those men were lovers of God or even seekers of God, but sought their own glory and earthly repute and loved their will-power above all.

And they don't apply to OP's question about what is good for small children.

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Why do you say that?

b43ddb No.21756

I wouldn't call myself a Muslim, so I apologize deeply if I'm intruding, just wanted to give my two cents. I think that expressing yourself creatively or learning useful skills is very positive for children, so I would recommend starting them on writing, learning another language, drawing, singing etc. while they're still young, when they absorb information more easily. Also, diet is imporant for children. Too many people have grown up with an 'eat everything on your plate' mentality. I think we need to make sure that our children do not overeat and develop poor eating habits. Let them stop eating when they're full, food isn't that expensive, and encourage them to eat more slowly, and smaller portions.

3df642 No.21757



Very good points. Thank you for your suggestions. Especially the language suggestion. We started with English, Arabic, and French from day one. I wonder what language her first word will be :P

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My baby loves this. It's a free HD baby song channel on my roku and probably other similar devices.

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07987c No.22228[Reply]



>And We certainly sent into every nation a messenger, (…)

>And if We had willed, We could have sent into every city a warner.

They SEEM to be contradicting. But there is no contradicting in book of Allah. Can you explain to me why they don't contradict? I asked this question in an Islamic internet forum and they were like "hurrr durrr how dare you question Qur'an?" so please don't bully and just answer my question.

8c518f No.22229

"Nation" - Ummah means a civilization/meta-ethnicity

"City" - Qariyya which actually means a small town.

So Allah swt could have sent a prophet to every small town, but instead He sent at least one to every nation. And by the way some of these prophets (pbuh) had NO followers. But Allah sent them because he wouldn't judge a people without sending them a warner - such is His justice.

07987c No.22230


Good point. On the other hand city state models were relevant in old times. Mecca and Madina people were like different nations in the past. If that's not the case for Mecca and Madina it was the case for different nations like ancient Greeks or Hittite. You know what I mean.

07987c No.22231



Prevalent I meant.

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3c03a8 No.21589[Reply]


I like this old .exe athan program more than the islamicfinder one and all the new ones in the windoze store. Mostly because it lets you set up either a Bismillah or Quran (including Ayatul Kursi) to be recited by Sudais whenever you startup your computer.

Please only post and discuss apps in this thread that you've actually used. Eid Mubarak.

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ab3abe No.22139



That's a great one and in my rotation. I keep it random and have multiple go off simultaneously. The best athan is the one in the masjid you're in. ;-)

The best athan I ever heard in my life was called by a Saudi brother from tablighi jaamat at the King Fahad mosque in Culver City. Video related is not that athan but it's when the Sheikh Muadhin (hafidahullah) of masjid al-haram came to the same masjid.

ab3abe No.22140

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whoops heres the vid when the sheikh came to call athan.

ab3abe No.22141

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Man I found another athan from my old masjid. SubhanAllah only now do I realize this place has - routinely - the best calls to salah, I've ever encountered in the US.

e744d6 No.22224



Those are excellent. Will download as mp3.

ab3abe No.22226


If you use the app in the OP you can create folders of adhan .mp3s and the program will randomly choose a different .mp3 for each athan.

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