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d4f528  No.29721[Reply]

Wonderful guide on how to pray in the way of Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta’ala) posted in the QTDDTOT thread. I thought it deserved a sticky of its own since it is the first thing taught to new Muslims.

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a0675a  No.30287

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1c7181  No.21874[Reply]


A thread for everything about memorizing al Quran al Kareem.

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852ab7  No.31115

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Surah he was presenting.

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964dfc  No.23797[Reply]

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته وسلام على المرسلين والحمد لله رب العالمين أما بعد

A couple of days ago someone mentioned starting a thread for learning Arabic, I thought it was a good idea so here it is. My thought is that we can share resources and ask each other questions about the language.

I'll start off with two great resources that'll take you quite far. They're aimed at someone who knows the Arabic script but not anything else. After these you should be at a level where you can start studying Arabic in Arabic.

1. Madinah series, which is used at the Islamic University in Madinah and very beginner friendly(as said above you just need to know the alphabet). It consists of three textbooks in Arabic, along with three in English explaining the grammar of each lesson, and an answer key. There's also a lot of complementary material in form of grammar summaries etc. Everything can be found for free(no copyright) at


2. Simplified Arabic by Arthur Upson. Another great book available free(copyright expired). It's layed out in terms of 200 chapters each accompinied by translation excercies with answer keys. Ideal for self studying. It can be found at https://archive.org/details/arabicsimplified00upsouoft

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1e1e09  No.11001[Reply]

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

This board is the 8chan Masjid and should be treated as such. It is a place for Muslims to gather and discuss Islam and not intended as a place where Muslims must defend themselves or their religion from outsiders. If you would not do it in a real mosque in the real world, then don't do it here.

Controversial topics of discussion are permitted, but deliberate trolling/baiting and personal attacks will not be tolerated. /pol/-like behavior can stay on /pol/.


For the purposes of this board, and until otherwise proven absolutely haram, tasteful non-lewd images of people, nature, and animals will be allowed.

We are not for the comparison of the various world's religions. There are many, many other boards for that. Use them.

Useful Links

If you'd like to suggest links or tips for this sticky, be sure to let me know!

http://sunnah.com/ - The Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

http://quran.com/ - Read and listen to Qur'an online.

http://tanzil.net/#trans/en.arberry/ - The Arberry Qur'an (not included with quran.com)

http://www.inter-islam.org/Seerah/ - Biography of the Prophet Muhammad( عليه السلام‎)

islam@8chan.co - Board Owner email

Taqiyya (تقية) is the Shi'a practice of concealing one's religion when in a life threatening situation and is unheard of in Sunni fiqh. It is NOT a license to spread misinformation or lie about Islam to non-Believers. Anyone who beliePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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871126  No.31152

I have placed Qur'an locally for those not wanting to use third part sites. If you want a translation into your own native language, use quran.com or similar.


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56f827  No.11002[Reply]

We need to take steps to ensure our privacy. Do not let them pull the "if you've got nothing to hide" card; that's like saying we don't need freedom of speech because "I have nothing to say." I have nothing to hide. I am not a terrorist nor am I interested in helping terrorists, but my emails and such are mine and I refuse to lay down and let the government walk all over my freedoms. So, if they want to exploit me, I'll make them work for it. So should you.

Important Tools:

https://piratebox.cc/openwrt:diy - Make as many of those as you can afford. It's like a private local cloud where information can continue to be shared.





Favorite Linux distributions:

https://tails.boum.org/ - Security anywhere you go on any computer.

http://www.backbox.org/ - I personally use this OS.

https://www.kali.org/ - Offensive defense.

http://www.ubuntu.com/ - The most common and user friendly OS.

https://trisquel.info/ - Based on Ubuntu but without added software.

https://www.torproject.org/ - Not useful by itself, but should be used in tandem with othPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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16e659  No.29019


Use Etcher or UUI to install it on the USB stick quickly and easily.

UUI: https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/

Etcher: https://etcher.io/

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280141  No.31181[Reply]

I'm interested in how you came to convert and if it was a gradual process with ups and downs, or was it a moment of insight that just transformed you? What were you before? What figures (outside the Quran) influenced your thinking?

How did you go from having a theoretical faith to actually declaring it, getting circumsized, going to masjid regularly and living halal in general?

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0e1703  No.31222


Buddy you have to remember where Christianity started. By that same analogy every Jew/Christian is larping as a middle eastern person. Being a newcomer to the faith is hard, especially showing up to Wahhabi mosques as one of the whitest non-Arabic speaking guys there. But no matter which mosque I go to, people are (usually) more than happy to talk to you and help. It really helped when I converted from hardline atheism seeing how simple congregation was and it wasn't long and boring like regular church service. It was a huge relief for me and I pray Allah makes it easier for you.

7f1679  No.31223


>showing up to Wahhabi mosques

There's no such thing as a wahhabi mosque. There may be people at the mosque who follow the teachings of al-Wahhab; but that doesn't make it a "Wahhabi mosque".

0e1703  No.31224


Fair. I only said it that way because I told my grandma which mosque I went to and she gasped and said in my native language "WAHABI?" When I had no idea. It's p normal around here because although there's no such thing as a specific mosque, the locals have decided which mosque belongs to what sect/ethnicity

7f1679  No.31225


Oh ok, yeah I understand that.

d84350  No.31226

Disclaimer I think I’m more of a deist.

I don’t talk about religion to anyone and most people assume I’m a Christian or something.

Because I don’t talk about any of it I feel justified in being a deist since it’s not like I’m betting in the way of anyone. I want all religions to be correct. But I don’t want to practice any of them.

It’s difficult because I love religion and the morality but I see things more in a historical sense.

So I think Mohammad is definitely a prophet of God (since people regard him to be) but I don’t really believe in doomsday stuff.

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140ae4  No.22523[Reply]

What does /islam/ think of Linda Sarsur? Is she a good spokeswoman for the Muslim community?

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545e8f  No.31177


15 years in satan's domain.. and you still succeeded that is amazing, by the will of Allah you will keep up the fight until the end ameen

12fdf3  No.31178


The verses you quoted don't support what you want them to support. The people in hell that were saved allegedly 'did no good deeds' in their life, simply taking shahada is a good deed, if anything the verse is specifically about non-muslims.

>I have to, since I don't know what's in their hearts

A person is born a muslim, with a sense of God built into them, you don't know if they lose their sense just like you don't know which muslims are actually kuffar.

And anyway it's God who judges people, not you.

>Maybe a difference in the level of punishment, but you will need to prove that from the quran.

The hadith you quoted earlier already support my point and disprove yours. None of them say that the people Allah saved in hell were muslims, but that they did no good deeds in their life and had an inkling of monotheism in their hearts.


I'm very lucky I had nerdy friends who shunned alcohol and partying growing up. I never acquired the taste for it. I've tried it a few times and find it gross. Unless the taste is masked with fruity soda or something, but either way I will pray for you to continue winning against it

764a2d  No.31196




Oh, I had nerdy friends too. I was chess club president in high school and Latin club vice president. Not exactly a "chad". I didn't party at all. My father died when I was 16 and I was angry about it for many, many years and that's what allowed me to fall into alcohol and let its claws dig deeper and deeper into me over the years.

545e8f  No.31214


>allegedly 'did no good deeds' in their life

It's a hyperbole, other uses of 'no good deed' in hadith are:

<the Prophet (ﷺ) told us of a man who never did any good deed but he used to

lend money to people to help them through their troubles; Allah (ﷻ) forgave him as a result.

<the Prophet (ﷺ) told us of a man who never did any good deed and asked to be cremated; when asked why, he said he did it out of fear of Allah (ﷻ) [but was ignorant] so Allah (ﷻ) forgave him due to that fear.

<the Prophet (ﷺ) told us of a man who never did a good deed but removed a thorny branch from the road [protecting people from harm], so Allah (ﷻ) forgave him because of it.

As you can see, they actually did a good deed, after living a life of no good deeds. That's what is meant here. It just means a sinner who believes in tawheed.

>A person is born a muslim, with a sense of God built into them, you don't know if they lose their sense just like you don't know which muslims are actually kuffar.

They are born muslim as babies, but then follow their parents/society's misguidance. It's true that I don't know whats in their hearts, so that's why I have to judge with the outward actions and sayings. And we can say generally, christians and jews will go to hell, pagans will go to hell ect.. as the quran states.

Denying this makes you a kaffir.

>And anyway it's God who judges people, not you.

The final judgement is for Allah (swt), but everyone needs earthly judgements for practical purposes, for legal matters in islamic life.

>The hadith you quoted earlier already support my point and disprove yours. None of them say that the people Allah saved in hell were muslims, but that they didPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

545e8f  No.31220


This is the understanding of the ulema not random laymen.

What is proven in the verses of the Qur’aan and the Sunnah of the Prophet, and on which the righteous salaf was agreed is that these – the sinners among those who believe in Tawheed (the oneness of Allaah) – fall into three categories:

The first category: People who have many hasanaat (good deeds) to their credit, which outweigh these sayi’aat (bad deeds). Allaah will forgive them for their bad deeds and admit them to Paradise. The Fire will never touch them, as a kindness and blessing from Allaah.

The second category: people whose hasanaat and sayi’aat are equal, so their sayi’aat are enough to keep them away from Paradise, but their hasanaat are enough to save them from Hell. These are the people of al-A’raaf (a wall with elevated places) whom Allaah says will stand between Paradise and Hell as long as Allaah wills, then they will be granted permission to enter Paradise, as Allaah says after telling us of the entrance of the people of Paradise to Paradise and the people of Hell to Hell.

The third category: People who will meet Allaah persisting in committing major sins and acts of immorality, so their sayi’aat will outweigh their hasanaat. These are the ones who will deserve to enter Hell in a manner commensurate with their sins. Some of them will be seized by the Fire as far as their ankles, some up to mid-calf, some up to their knees, and for some only the mark of sujood will be spared. These are the ones whom Allaah will permit to be brought forth from the Fire because of the intercession of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

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7569d7  No.19586[Reply]

Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread:

Post all such questions here. I'll start with a few of my own.

As a non-Muslim (non-religious period) I wonder about the notion that God (Allah) "wants" things from us. "Wanting" to me feels like it implies a kind of inferior state, as though one was lacking something. Does Allah "want" things from mankind? To follow certain rules perhaps? Or is it not a matter of "wanting" but something else?

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2dc6e4  No.31184



Give me one Quran verse that states women cannot be imams. And before you reply, please reread my challenge.

ff4de0  No.31191


Qur'an doesn't address it and the only hadith mentioning it considered weak. I suppose it's more about tradition than anything else.

91c993  No.31212


>security cameras and desalination equipment for salt water.

That's better then other stocks as you explained.

>I find some of the things Yasir Qadhi says questionable in general. He says that most of the funds of the Memphis Islamic Center are in the stock market.

that guy is pretty shifty in both aqeedah and dealings

91c993  No.31213


Women can lead other women in prayer, but not men, since mixed gatherings are not allowed and a woman could be distracting the men from salat, especially during rukuh and sujood.

91c993  No.31219

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Some anon explained scientifically how the universe was created in actual 6 days due to time dilation. Since we also believe that it was in 6 days I found it interesting.Thoughts on this thread?

(7:54) Surely your Lord is none other than Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and then ascended His Throne; Who causes the night to cover the day and then the day swiftly pursues the night; Who created the sun and the moon and the stars making them all subservient to His command. Lo! His is the creation and His is the command. Blessed is Allah, the Lord of the universe.

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a1fd37  No.20806[Reply]


Allah, The Unmoved Mover

>And it will not be possible to be and not to be the same thing, except in virtue of an ambiguity, just as if one whom we call ‘man’, others were to call ‘not-man’; but the point in question is not this, whether the same thing can at the same time be and not be a man in name, but whether it can in fact. – Aristotle, Metaphysics

>Numbers 23:19 “God is not a man, that He should lie, nor a son of man, that He should repent; has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?”

>1 Samuel 15:29 “And also the Glory of Israel will not lie or change His mind; for He is not a man that He should change His mind.”

>Job 9:32 “For He is not a man as I am that I may answer Him, that we may go to court together.”

The concept of trinity disagrees with both the scripture of the Hebrews and the logic of the Greeks – the two very things Hellenist Jews wanted so desperately to combine when they contrived Christianity.

The laws of the excluded middle and contradiction do not undermine monotheism, they demand it. They undermine the trinity which is rank paganism. Logic can be seen as negative theology (what God isn’t) while revelation is positive theology (what God is). Monotheism can only be undermined when the imperfect reasoning abilities of men are placed above revelation – which is exactly what the trinity doctrine does.

Divinity can be seen as “irrational” in the sense that the human mind alone cannot be expected to properly quantify it, hence the need for revelation from above. If we accept the premise of unrevealed divinity and its “irrationality” then monotheism is less irrational a priori than polytheism. In this same manner Unitarianism is less irrational than Trinitarianism. Then if we accept the premise of revealed divinity along with the veracity of Abrahamic scripture we find that monotheism is more veracious a posteriori than polytheism;Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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0baa12  No.31208


Why does God allow heretics and false revelations to exist? To test them, to test us. But his scriptures remain preserved through history. His word is never corrupted and never needs reconstruction like you are taught, it is always an option for seekers. The Injil is the gospel, it never disappeared, neither did the torah. This upsets you because you were taught that God's revelations get overpowered by man for hundreds of years and he has keep repeating the message because he failed to preserve it. He lost the Torah and the Injil? No.

If he couldn't preserve it in the past he can't preserve anything.

268b31  No.31209


>formulating a simple creed that is easy to memorize

>memorizing creed and not understanding it instead

big mistake

30af58  No.31210


>His word is never corrupted and never needs reconstruction

except the bible did and likewise your creed so you're a dishonest liar incapable of defending christianity against the same "arguments" you try to use against Islam.

0baa12  No.31216


This tactic would only work on Mormons who share your false teaching that God fails to preserve revelation. Our view is internally consistent. Our scriptures are preserved throughout history. Our creed expresses our beliefs and comes from the gospel.

Your view is internally inconsistent since you claim previous revelations were corrupt, like a Mormon would, hence your God is unreliable. This is the implication of your own view, regardless of the external facts about textual criticism, your view eats itself logically before any empirical analysis is needs to be done.

And you know it since you have absolutely no answer for my question, only deflection.

Who told you God fails to preserve his own revelation? And why did you believe this logical absurdity? Ponder it.

268b31  No.31218


We DO have actual historical instances of fabricated verses in the bible, such as the prostitute protected by Jesus and the poison drinking verse.

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00fb38  No.27851[Reply]

Why are muslims in Sweden and i guess most other European countries so unfriendly towards presumtive converts? They peole in the mosques here generally act like they don't want the outside world to even know they exist at all, and definitely don't want any ethnic Swedes or people of any other background to try and join them.

I can only laugh when i read crap about some think Muslims are supposedly "trying to take over the country and force everyone to convert to Islam", when if anything most Muslim immigrants seem to think Swedish and all other people are unworthy of becoming muslims. What should one do, how could one become Muslim in such an unfriendly enviroment?

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3af724  No.28119

Because every single person in Sweden is corrupt as the country itself is corrupt to the max.

d7507c  No.28807

Because once in their life these Outsiders are actually not welcomed with open arms, but put under scrutiny and scepticism. It's western degeneracy that you have to always welcome anyone, who wants to join your team with a red carpet and OH NO, Drama, if you dare to even make the slightest demand on them proving themselves and adapting to you.

Most Swedes are degenerate. I don't know, but I can imagine that a lot of them think about converting just to feel some sense of identity, because they destroyed theirs through cultural marxism. Or a general attitude of "look at these diverse foreigners"

9612cc  No.28963


It's also un-Islamic. Didn't the Prophet (pbuh) say that no ethnic or racial group is superior to any other, and that it's only piety that matters? smh

8e5e0b  No.30241

why don't you just go to your local mosque and talk to the people there? I'm sure they will be friendly.

I also live in Sweden, by the way, and I don't recognize what you are saying as true.

0de630  No.31217


I'm guessing you live in one of the biggest cities? Because here, and most other places, the mosques are completely ethnic, and you can hardly find anyone involved with them who can even speak Swedish. In fact, many of them seem to be run by Saudis who don't even live in Sweden.

I don't think there are any other ethnically Swedish muslims here, and very few outside of the biggest cities which are the only ones to do anything to invite converts, and they seem to be pretty despised by the local Muslims here.

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cdd029  No.31141[Reply]

Nothing is impossible with God


With You can do All things with God

Learning How to Build Faith


You need to learn things, step by step.

Stay grounded in truth, learn from the bible.

Base everything you do on what you learn from the Scriptures.

Honestly apply what you've learned.

-earnestly, and consistently attempt to do this.

You will make mistakes…But

Proceed humbly following direction from God.

Keep Trying, Learn from mistakes…Avoid repeating them

Brave and Courageous, Not Afraid, and Disheartened. Be Lionhearted!

Learn from those who teach you.

Respect those who would teach you.

Do Not Set it down…

Just Pick the Right Direction, Go Hes Got You.

Meet them half way. Stay with God.

-Love and Trust…

-He's not gonna Freak out, about it Don't You freak out about it.

-Brave and Courageous, Don't fear, your past.

-Don't get discouraged and despair.

Try to respect others, in everything you do…

-Slow to anger, and forgive quickly.

#Responsed to Faithfull Thought #!!!

(Immediate response, not faltering, 1st thoughts= Definitely a thing, and God responses to it. But not the only things he responds to.. Do not feel he will let you be forced, in an unnatural way.)

(Not trying to get just what you want, be calm, at rest, focus on other things, what God is like, what he would want. What is Holy and Good.

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6a5d44  No.31202


You're still just parroting irrelevant nonsense and not addressing any of my points. Answer me why you say that God allowed the gospel to be corrupted and likewise the trinity for centuries until the divinely inspired church corrected it?

366128  No.31203


You keep hand-waving my answers away without explaining how they are irrelevant or "nonsensical", I don't know what you want if you keep making vague accusations. I give you specific answers and you just shrug your shoulders and deny them with no explanation.

>Answer me why you say that God allowed the gospel to be corrupted and likewise the trinity for centuries until the divinely inspired church corrected it?

you should post this in the christian thread. Otherwise this conversation will get deleted very soon by the mods. The short answer is that people misinterpreting the scriptures and spreading false doctrines is not the same as the scriptures themselves being corrupt. The Church did not "correct" scriptures, but correct people's misunderstanding of it by formulating a simple creed that is easy to memorize, and it's grounded in scripture itself anyway.

6a5d44  No.31205


>you should post this in the christian thread

So you pose a problem to me that you can not even answer yourself?

>that people misinterpreting the scriptures and spreading false doctrines is not the same as the scriptures themselves being corrupt.

Then what does it mean for scriptures to be corrupt? You're just making up stuff as you go along. We say that corruption means: some people lied and said this was revelation when it wasn't. You say: some people lied and said this was revelation(from Jesus) when it wasn't. So there's no difference.

6a5d44  No.31206

So after all this time the idolator still has not answered any of my question:

Why did God allow christians to be duped by false gospels and false creeds for 2000+ years and still counting?

Why did God order women to be stoned to death unless they can display a bloody bedsheet from their wedding night?

Why does the bible contain incest porn?

ebe8df  No.31211


yeah.. umm very "spiritual"


if stick enthusiasts start proselytizing bans will be handed out until they turn back into the containment thread

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6cc204  No.31130[Reply]

Salam. I read an article a few months ago regarding the permissibility of certain sexual acts in Islam. The article brought up the story of Lot offering up his daughters to the sodomites. They then included the opinion of a certain scholar/imam(unsure) who said something along the lines of this scholar arguing in favor of sodomy with the rationale of "Lot knew what they actually wanted".

I am not arguing that sodomy is okay, but the article had several other questions and answers for. I am moreso trying to find this specific scholar for more research. Thank you.

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6cc204  No.31144


Because i thought his full statement was hilarious.

6cc204  No.31153





Found it:

"(Narrated) al-Hussain bin Ali Yaqteen said: I asked Abdul-Hassan [as] about the permissibility for the man to have anal sex with women, he [as] said It was made halal (permissible) in the book of Allah, when (Prophet) Lot said: 11:78 Here are my daughters, they are purer for you and he knew it was not the vagina they were after." Tafseer al-Ayyashi, vol.1, p.157; Bihar al-Anwaar vol.21, p.98; Tafseer al-Burhaan vol.2,p.230

0e1546  No.31154


The absolute state of ☻ism

9e3ad2  No.31171


I wonder which genius fabricated this narration.

0e1546  No.31175


clearly someone with malicious intentions towards women

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3b0e5e  No.22239[Reply]

ITT: Post nasheeds. Every nasheed you got. Just post em.

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d0ccde  No.30199


I found a video with subtitles:


The lyrics are a poem by a famous poet called Abul-'Atahiyya.

544e1c  No.30288


wow jazakam Allahu kharyn, i really really like it. thanks for telling me the origin too, this board is very well cultured.

d0ccde  No.30289


wa iyyak. I liked it too so thanks for sharing.

>this board is very well cultured.

To be honest I just googled it.

550506  No.31012

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contains the daff , [cc] for translation

550506  No.31142

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90c39a  No.31029[Reply]

Am I still allowed to like sam harris as a muslim?

I like to listen to his lectures especially about free will.

I know he is anti islam but its not like he is shaking hands with drumpf like MBS

not a troll thread

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b68833  No.31104


That's true, my counter argument is that although sam harris is a kafir mushrik crusader against islam, so is MBS.

09c524  No.31108


My biggest problem is you using "rafidhi" like it's somehow an insult. This board is for Shi'a, too. If you want Sunni only, there is a board for that. Throwing around insults needs to stop.

f89010  No.31120


Sunnis dont invite David Duke to their country or Louis Farrakhan

b68833  No.31128


They are more heretical than the quranist (which are banned)

b68833  No.31129


Louis Farrakhan was invited and did umrah in 1998.

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a0b1c6  No.31073[Reply]

Is the presence of bayanis allowed here?

If so, do you even lift the cause of the Essence of the Seven Letters?

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a0b1c6  No.31117



95c283  No.31124


It's equally heterodox and equally a modernist invention.

3460ce  No.31133


Your breaking board rules


3460ce  No.31134


Though it was an islamic sect. never mind sorry.

e09130  No.31156


>the next step of every shaykiyyah follower

you should not follow deviants, follow the quran and see for yourself

>being part of something so small also gives me a sense of righteousness that is not found in anything else

that's not an argument, hindus also feel righteous, if you use religion for your ego then it's not religion

>thats what you think

It's historical FACT. A branch of rafidhism.

>in the eyes of the renegades,

You are the renegade, since I can prove everything I believe from the quran unlike you.

>even so you do not care, for there is no reason to care about the opinion of the wrong ones

I care because you are posting on our board.

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