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The King is dead! Long live the King!

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Welcome to /monarchy/. I'm editing this top post in order to condense things. This is now the only sticky and a general meta thread. There has been no change in BO, I'm just trying to clean things up a bit more. I may delete out posts in this thread just because I would like keeping the >>1 post for tradition's sake.

Rules: https://8ch.net/monarchy/charter.html

About/Links: https://8ch.net/monarchy/about.html

More specifically, if there is a new BO or volunteer of /monarchy/, it's announced here. If there is a change to the rules, it is promulgated here. This is also a thread I'll use to be a little less aloof and talk about minor and meta stuff: general feedback, complaining about troll threads, accepting submissions for flags, banners, moderation, and rules, etc.. A court, if you will.

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Monarchies come and go. If you view of history is the last span of 50 decades, sure, but what a short view of history.

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Can we get a Monarchist reading list?

I'll start with some:
Dante's De Monarchia
De Maistre's The Generative Principle of Political Constitutions
Filmer's Patriarcha
Kuehnelt-Leddihn's Liberty or Equality
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Shit's so fucked up bruhs. I'm not certain we'll be able to see anything like it happening in the near future unless Varg is right and some apocalypse will save us.

Me, I kinda have a small plan, we know that there are certain factors that turn people into leftists, like big cities and especially colleges where by their first year people are already turned into braindead leftists. Now what do we have that has the opposite effect on people and drastically converts them into traditionalists? I think if we can figure that out or at least start with wrestling the universities back from the leftists and educating kids the RIGHT way, we might have a chance eventually, but it will still take some time to undo the leftist damage and social engineering.

What else is there? Revolution? I think this is also a viable option since we can safely ignore the opinion of 80% of the population, but it should only be done when the right-wing is more organized and in a more favourable position, I personally don't believe in the whole -

>revolutions are bad and always make things worse

thing, this is a really lazy argument, revolutions themselves aren't necessarily bad, it depends on who wins them and what they decide to do after.

Any other ideas?

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Prove it.



You can start by cleaning your mouth, filth.

Second, the only monarch you will get is something akin to Caesar Augustus. Then you might get a Nero or Marcus Aurelius, we'll see or rather, time will see, for we'll be long dead.


I think we need to get rid of cucked monarchs and start over by having a brilliant leader lead a coup and start a new dynasty with his son being crowned the king.

>Norwegian Crown Prince marries a single mother

>Britbong prince marries jewish mysterymeat used goods

I just don't get it, is it jew brain washing? Is it retardation?

If I was a crown prince I'd look for a virgin in from a respectable upper class family, preferrably a 16 year old (AoC in Norway)



If the flag's name is a reference to that song, it's wrong, but why? Is there a reason, or was it just a mistake?




>I just don't get it

It's egalitarianism. It was bound to happen as soon as they made marrying commoners acceptable more and more.

These problems aren't sourced in the royalty. It is the same problem with many people. They're more susceptible because private tutoring is becoming less an option, because the state of academia, and because society is in decay. Before that can be fixed, you have to take care of many problems first.

Likewise, if you want ordinary people to become better, you couldn't simply just exterminate them all and call in new people.

I'd agree how the royals are mostly lacking, and I'm skeptical the same way. I'm treating it like growing pains, hoping that monarchies will grow out of it if they don't bastardize their dynasties anymore.

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I haven't seen a discussion thread about anything regarding The Journal of Neoabsolutism, so I'll get one started.

>What is Neoabsolutism?

I don't know what distinguishes it from regular absolutism other than this being new and absolutism being old, however there is most likely a definition on the two websites that the ideas come from. The two wordpresses where the term "neo-absolutism" comes from are The Journal of Neoabsolutism (https://thejournalofneoabsolutism.wordpress.com/) and the earlier wordpress which preceded it, Reactionaryfuture (https://reactionaryfuture.wordpress.com/).

This thread will be for the discussion of the ideas on these two sites, a good place to start is the "Absolutist and Anarchistic Ontology" (https://thejournalofneoabsolutism.wordpress.com/2017/05/02/absolutist-and-anarchistic-ontology/). This section of the site is a good place to start for any new monarchist and will get them to stop thinking like republicans and more like monarchists.






You're voluntarily holding yourself back, there's a great amount of information here that I don't see in too many other places.

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Bring in the most iconic pictures.

Let's have a content dump for all images we cherish.

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>tfw no heptarchy

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Opinions on bourgeoisie and in general wealthy merchant/business strata?

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Destroying socialists and their friends and families, then erasing them from history, is simply a objrctively good deed. You're a leftie, so you are insane, stupid and psychotic by definition. And of course, there was the tired tirade of "not real socialism" again. Anyone observing lefties, such as you, knows the correct course of action with them.



Yeah, yeah, I know, anon.

I'm just playing off republican banter about DPRK being a monarchy.


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How do you cope with it?

The democratic people who would see us reactionaries, from left and right, will deter us for being too reactionary and not radical enough. Those who worship democracy as the perfect government perceive us through their lenses as idiots. The others will boast about the decline of our civilization and gleefully admit the world is much better off without imperialism, monarchies, and leadership. The rest of us watch from a somber distance as the world collapses, waiting for the aristocratic elements to re-assert themselves; we wait for the roots to grow back, but the corrosive elements of democratic thought and radicalism threaten us everyday.

How does the monarchist feel about dealing with them? The anti-reactionary elements, the demagogue-wannabes, and the radicals who spout among the ruins, they're all dissenting against us.

Just share your feels. It's okay.


>The story of Isaiah might have something in it to steady and compose the human spirit until this tyranny of windiness is overpast. I shall paraphrase the story in our common speech, since it has to be pieced out from various sources; and inasmuch as respectable scholars have thought fit to put out a whole new version of the Bible in the American vernacular, I shall take shelter behind them, if need be, against the charge of dealing irreverently with the Sacred Scriptures.

>The prophet's career began at the end of King Uzziah's reign, say about 740 B.C. This reign was uncommonly long, almost half a century, and apparently prosperous. It was one of those prosperous reigns, however — like the reign of Marcus Aurelius at Rome, or the administration of Eubulus at Athens, or of Mr. Coolidge at Washington — where at the end the prosperity suddenly peters out and things go by the board with a resounding crash.

>In the year of Uzziah's death, the Lord commissioned the prophet to go out and warn the people of the wrath to come. "Tell them what a worthless lot they are." He said, "Tell them what is wrong, and why and what is going to happen unless they have a change of heart and straighten up. Don't mince matters. Make it clear that they are positively down to their last chance. Give it to them good and strong and keep on giving it to them. I suppose perhaps I ought to tell you," He added, "that it won't do any good. The official class and their intelligentsia will turn up their noses at you and the masses will not even listen. They will all keep on in their own ways until they carry everything down to destruction, and you will probably be lucky if you get out with your life."

>Isaiah had been very willing to take on the job — in fact, he had asked for it — but the prospect put a new face on the situation. It raised the obvious question: Why, if all that were so — if the enterprise were to be a failure from the start — was there any sense in starting it? "Ah," the Lord said, "you do not get the point. There is a Remnant there that you know nothing about. They are obscure, unorganized, inarticulate, each one rubbing along as best he can. They need to be encouraged and braced up because when everything has gone completely to the dogs, they are the ones who will come back and build up a new society; and meanwhile, your preachiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



Thanks, anon.

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>TFW you live in the most corrupt republic on the planet specifically created out of a peasant revolt against the british crown, which no claimants over the entirety of the modern country's territory whatsoever, and who's only claimants over certain parts of it are a ceremonial british hag and a deposed Hawaiian cheiftain

Fellow burgers of /monarchy/, how do you cope with your beliefs in such a society where monarchism is completely alien? Is the Mad Monarchist correct in the assertion that we all should just give up hope or move back to the Old World?

I myself am a Russian descendent from White Immigrants (grandfather was a minor noble who fought for Monarchists in the Russian Civil War)- and considering the fact that I can't seem to find any legitimate American Monarchist organizations- should I just get the hell out of dodge and join the Monarchist Party of Russia?

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>Changes in sovereignty will require changes to the dominant economic system.



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>Russian descendent from White Immigrants (grandfather was a minor noble who fought for Monarchists

Leave USA before your bloodline gets pozzed beyond salvage.


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We're proposing a solution to the most corrupt republic and its cultural marxist hegemony. If anyone is interested in a Monarchist solution that is.

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What do you guys think about the Japanese royalty? Are they as cucked as European monarchies?

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>the Japanese had a racialist ideology

>So did the Americans. Most peoples do.

Yes, hence why the Americans collected skulls of Japanese, and executed more Japanese leaders than German ones.

>only ill treatment of PoWs

>What about the interment camps?

Those were a thing. I am not denying that.

>How about we stop pretending everyone is an innocent bystander in a war.

I don't. There's wars that are more or less civilized and just. The Bangladeshi Liberation War, for example, came very close to being a just war, with few civilian casualties, and the aim being to stop a democide (even if not for completely altruistic reasons). In WW2, you are correct that there were no good guys, so to speak, or at least not among the major players. I could sing a song about the cruelty of the Allies, even without taking the Russians into account. The atomic bombings set a precedent even in the era of total war, there are reports of Jewish intelligence officials torturing Germans to illicit confessions, there have been war rapes and shellings of unsympathetic villages, and so on.


Oh, I take it you are the same guy as above?

>Am I against proper conduct in warfare? No; it is wise to deter from savage behavior, but that is the exception and not the rule

That, I fully agree with, except I am perhaps a little more optimistic, but that's only a slight matter of degree.

Very good post, I fully agree with all you wrote here.


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>tfw the anon who still believes in allied lies has to remind the nu/pol/lite niggers that Japan is in a lot of trouble right now



Nobody denies Japan is in trouble. It's plain as the sky being blue.


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Again, if you can make a revisionist case, I am happy to hear it. Wouldn't be the first time for me. I used to believe Leopold II was responsible for the Congo Atrocities, too. (His only crime was not keeping the nigs under his command on a tighter leash. In fact, that is what contemporaries mostly blamed him for, I was told. And the number of ten million he is supposed to have killed is certainly too high.)

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Contribute music, preferably monarchy-related.

Marches, songs, and contemporary music.

WebM, mp4, and Youtube.

Music inspires.

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There's no way these guys aren't right wing. Not with an album like this. Plus they evoke the classical and operatic traditions, so they should be inclined to our way of thinking, simply by disposition.


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General thread for discussing Thomas Hobbes. He is, after all, the monarchist thinker that most people have heard of. Or rather, there are far more, but he's the one everyone thinks of when you say "monarchist philosopher".

I've always had a weird respect for Thomas Hobbes, weird because I disagree with him on almost everything, from his view on human nature, to his epistemics, to his contract theory. What impressed me in Leviathan, however, were his stringency. He carefully laid down all his premises, answered all the obvious questions he knew his reader would have, and argued with care and precision. This is why it's so easy to point out just where he went wrong. I can't say the same for many other philosophies.

What relatively few critics of Leviathan understand is that Hobbes is essentially an individualist, not a collectivist and not a totalitarian. He even acknowledged a right of resistance, said that the state should further the commonweal by protecting society from crime instead of trying to run society, and he never made any claims to the effect that individuals are merely cells of some greater whole. It would go too far to call him a classical liberal, but really, he wasn't so bad.

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Political constitutions under a constitutional monarchy strike me as Hobbesian. A time ago I read the Meiji Constitution and it struck me as Hobbesian to a degree. Perhaps monarchies with constitutions owe Hobbes for laying such a foundation for statescraft of monarchies and conceptualizing their powers so well.


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Why does the far left concern itself with Hobbes? I'm curious because they read into him more than other social contract theorists. I've lurked on /leftypol/ and noticed they would pick on a few titles

If /leftypol/ is lurking, come out and explain. Does Hobbes give you insight on revolution because of what he said about the state?



But Hobbes never treated the social contract that way, from what I know. He did gave people a way out of the social contract. The downside would be that they could be killed or subjugated. He saw it as an exercise of choice to be subjugated, too, because after all, you could just keep resisting and be killed. That you didn't showed you valued your life more than not being subjugated.

It's not a very nice conclusion, but more honest than most political philosophers. This kind of stringency is why I like Hobbes despite disagreeing with him on everything.



The only language they understand is violence. It applies to every government. The thing they leave out is that violence is met with violence.

I'd like to know how someone could leave a system. If you know where in the book, tell me. I think the best you can do is emigrate or socially isolate yourself. If you commit the worst crimes in the realm, even if you didn't consent to the laws, it is sensible that someone would subject you. I don't think what Hobbes presents is too far-fetched than it's received.


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Dumping read caps. Planning to simplify them.

I think I'll look into what Hobbes thought. We should look into other thinkers like Filmer and Maistre, maybe even make them a thread to discuss. For now, I'm going to prolong my study on Hobbes.

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Is it not true, that whichever man is married to the most beautiful woman, is the true alpha of the society and most worthy to be King?

Man's nature is to marry the most beautiful woman he can manage, and whichever man manages the most beautiful woman must have the most worth according to her. It may seem odd to count on this woman's appraisal so much but it is far more comprehensive than any other measure.She will have measured not only his looks, though they are important, but his wealth, his demeanor, his social ability etc.

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>Bringing authority is an accomplishment.

Maybe so, but this doesn't mean accomplishments automatically generate authority. It seems to me you have made a category error.


>The anglo would rather some random whore choose

The woman isn't choosing the monarch directly, we are counting on her choice of mate to be a reflection of who we ought to choose for King.

>instead of God

And how would you get God to choose? I thought the thing about God was, He doesn't interfere directly in world affairs like that (some would say, conveniently).



You need to lurk more until you understand divine right and get the big gay out of your head


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I'm not the other anon, but… where are you going with your natural selection idea if accomplishments, deeds, and virtues don't matter? They don't get you authority, this is correct. They help along the way. Authority comes from sovereignty. What I meant about the variables of that office is that an authoritarian can be tyrannical, killing or subjugating a people to rule, or a ruler can be benevolent and take the weight of the law of a pre-existing system. How it initially starts is obscure. I would be willing to agree with you about natural selection and a steady growth of hierarchy and leaders within a community. My point is a leader is definitely someone who acts, that being the one who chooses.You're correct that the leader can set down the first principles of the monarchy and establish the tradition.

>modern society

I don't know what to tell you. If you're powerful enough to defend, nobody is going to remove you. Look at North Korea and the desire to have a nuke.

>and how would you get God to choose?

As far as I know, God allows; all power of choice is simply a gift of grace and monarchies rule by grace. What God does with providence is another stoy. The relationship between God and monarchies is giving and receiving. God gives power, and monarchies -recognize- their authority they presumably have already. It's the same for every other government that doesn't recognize God, except they simply don't know what grace they act upon and they don't recognize it.

>The woman isn't choosing the monarch

Yes, mating process isn't traditionally who chooses. A consort comes along and fulfills a role and the monarch can choose other concubines.

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>where are you going with your natural selection idea if accomplishments, deeds, and virtues don't matter?

I never said they didn't matter, I just made the point that achievements don't result in a monarch. Nobody makes aspersions towards power on the back of achievements and neither would modern society allow them to take it.

>mating process isn't traditionally who chooses.

I know, I just came upon it as a natural, external way to choose a monarch. It doesn't involve any politics. And it makes sense to the primate brain, if we're being reactionary anyway and all that


Daily reminder that Anglos are worse than jews

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I want to request a favor for the board's sake. We need to get a monarchy-chan, a qt imperialist waifu for all the anons. This would be a cordial service.

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Very good. I appreciate your work!


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You must be new to the site, then. I visited this place a couple times years ago, and that's not how thing were done.


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New art.

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The Empire will return…

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That is unfortunate for Brazil.


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Portugal should return to being a kingdom rather than a republic. It would take it closer to the rank of an imperial government. Of course I don't view that Portugal will return to imperial status soon. If it wants to aspire, it should.

Nobody said it will happen, only a desire. We all hope for the best.


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Brazil was never officially a colony. We were a state in Portuguese documents, and thanks to Emperor Dom João VI who's escaped from Portugal to Brazil during the Napoleonic Wars, the state of Brazil became a full-fledged empire. He brought his royal library and riches with him, greatly contributing to the nation's growth. Even after Napoleon's defeat, João VI remained here for many more years because he absolutely loved the land and its people. Due to the corrupt kike courts of Portugal (at the time responsible for yet another economical crisis in their own country) who wished to remove him from power and exploit Brazil, he was forced to return, leaving his son Dom Pedro I to guide the newly forged empire he loved so much.

Under Pedro I's reign, the nation prospered in ways no other nation had. Despite being royal Portuguese blood, he loved Brazil as much as his own father, and strove to maintain its territory and population at peace. There were many struggles, and our people had their tensions, but when shit went south and the nation was in peril, they united. Natives, Africans, and Portuguese descendants born in Brazil, despite their differences, always fought together as one people throughout its history. Such was the case when the Dutch invaded the northeastern lands to attempt colonization, and when the Uruguayans attacked our southern borders.

This, too, was the case when those same people were fed up with the Portuguese minorities who, despite living in our country, were still loyal to their homeland in the old world, and were strongly in favor of its control over Brazil. The Portuguese loyalists often opposed any decision from our emperor Dom Pedro I to maintain our autonomy, and when the decision for independence from Portugal finally arrived, those kiked loyalists were promptly dealt with and expelled like the traitors they were. The war that followed against Portugal was tough, but our navy was successful in keeping them at bay and securing our sovereignty. We fucking kicked you out.

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Brazil and Portugal have problems of their own, but maybe the same solution among many problems.


I miss the Spanish empire

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Post ITT every time you visit /monarchy/, so that we can generate more activity on this board.

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>European Union

No… Scrap it. No EU. The EU is no friend of sovereignty.


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Theocrats aren't Monarchs, and the (((EUSSR))) is pure cancer. Burn that shit to the ground and give it to a real monarch like pic related


If we want a unified Europe, I say bring back imperial dynasties. Although a political impossibility today, it might start somewhere.

Maybe a confederation of kingdoms is acceptable too.



>Maybe a confederation of kingdoms is acceptable too.

The old German kingdoms used to have customs unions, didn't they?



Europe is not homogenous. Every language deserves It's own state.

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