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The King is dead! Long live the King!

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Can we get a Monarchist reading list?

I'll start with some:
Dante's De Monarchia
De Maistre's The Generative Principle of Political Constitutions
Filmer's Patriarcha
Kuehnelt-Leddihn's Liberty or Equality
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Welcome to /monarchy/. I'm editing this top post in order to condense things. This is now the only sticky and a general meta thread. There has been no change in BO, I'm just trying to clean things up a bit more. I may delete out posts in this thread just because I would like keeping the >>1 post for tradition's sake.

Rules: https://8ch.net/monarchy/charter.html

About/Links: https://8ch.net/monarchy/about.html

More specifically, if there is a new BO or volunteer of /monarchy/, it's announced here. If there is a change to the rules, it is promulgated here. This is also a thread I'll use to be a little less aloof and talk about minor and meta stuff: general feedback, complaining about troll threads, accepting submissions for flags, banners, moderation, and rules, etc.. A court, if you will.

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Trying to bring in more traffic.

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Bees are the monarchist insect, but ants are communist pests.

<as Joseph d'M*istre states:

>“If sovereignty is not anterior to the people, at least these two ideas are collateral, since a sovereign is necessary to make a people. It is as impossible to imagine a human society, a people, without a sovereign as a hive and bees without a queen: for, by virtue of the eternal laws of nature, a swarm of bees exists in this way or it does not exist at all. Society and sovereignty are thus born together; it is impossible to separate these two ideas. Imagine an isolated man: there is no question of laws or government, since he is not a whole man and society does not yet exist. Put this man in contact with his fellowmen: from this moment you suppose a sovereign. The first man was king over his children; each isolated family was governed in the same way. But once these families joined, a sovereign was needed, and this sovereign made a people of them by giving them laws, since society exists only through the sovereign.

>Everyone knows the famous line,

>“The first king was a fortunate soldier.

>This is perhaps one of the falsest claims that has ever been made. Quite the opposite could be said, that

>The first soldier was paid by a king.

>There was a people, some sort of civilization, and a sovereign as soon as men came into contact. The word people is a relative term that has no meaning divorced from the idea of sovereignty: for the idea of a people involves that of an aggregation around a common center, and without sovereignty there can be no political unity or cohesion….”

What are your animals, /monarchy/?


Every hive has its queen, folks.



Bee queens exist primarily for reproduction, far as I'm aware. Also, what does that quote have to do with anything?



what a narrow minded person









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This is a no-anime zone. Post high-quality aesthetic paintings and quotes of historical or fictitious kings and monarchists. Bonus points for realistic depictions of medieval (or fantasy) knights.

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I still miss them


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The ultimate affront to all ideologies is being an imperialist.

They all hate the legacy of empires.

This is not the imperialism of colonial empire, but the long-spanning imperial domain of ancient civilizations and the imperial domain of holy ranks and great emperors. Emperors were once a strong symbol.

Monarchies are not only afraid of going extinct. Empires are. True empires. I am not referencing "pseudo-empire" and those who point to Zionist hegemony or the current state of the Commonwealth. What the nationalists refer to "globalism" is not the imperialism I love. The glory of imperialism could be as national and local as it is powerful. Emperor is the rank above king. It is the ultimate status.

Before anyone whines about colonialism, I'm going to point out that an anti-imperialist is basically an anti-monarchist. Look no further the 20th century and the most prestigious monarchies were empires. The British Empire. The Austro-Hungarian Empire. The German Empire. The Russian Empire. The Brazilian Empire & 2nd Mexican Empire. The whole basket of great imperial regimes. The only Emperor left in this world is in Japan.

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Are Czechs slavified Germans?




You are Germans in denial, Karel. Just admit it.



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Remember that the political animals are all breeds of ideological charlatan. If they subscribe to an ideology, they are a political animal; a political animal is somebody who chooses to be other than man; he chooses to become an partisan or idealist. They see everything through the lenses of their -ism and think highly of plain things. Political animals destroy each other, lavishing to take any mantle of authority. They are dogs in the mud, trampling over each other.

Don't become a political animal. Think of authority, not anarchism. Think of people for who they actually are, not what they "should" be or what party. Be loyal to someone and not an ideal. Don't aspire for power and control, but become somebody of action and authority. Find strength, not slander of opponents. Think of honor, not false chants of liberty; because liberty is honorable and before people are truly free they must become responsible first. Before anybody has any liberty, they must find duty, or else they seek to have liberty without any responsibility – that is a demagogue's tyranny.

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Robert Filmer dissecting the tyrannophobia business.


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Yeah, that's not true. Not all monarchies are tyrannical, and tyranny isn't even exclusive to government. Hell, depending on how you look at it, tyranny isn't even exclusive to humanity. The natural world itself is tyrannical, in a way, depending on your religious beliefs.


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> depending on how you look at it, tyranny isn't even exclusive to humanity. The natural world itself is tyrannical

What horrible revelation is this?

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>Hermit crabs and sea anemones share an unusual and intimate underwater relationship. Young hermit crabs will often pick up a young sea anemone to attach to their shell and they become partners for life. They even grow at roughly the same rate. When hermit crabs outgrow their shell, they often take the sea anemone with them to the new one. Some sea anemones have gone so far as to cover most of the surface of the hermit crab’s shell so when the crab eventually outgrows the shell, he doesn’t have to move. The relationship of the hermit crab and sea anemone serves both a multitude of purposes.

>Hermit crabs and sea anemones have a symbiotic relationship, meaning they live in harmony together. It’s a stable connection that sidesteps the typical prey and predator relationship found in nature. The type of symbiosis they engage in is called commensalism. Commensalism means one organism benefits and the other organism isn’t harmed by the partnership. Neither the hermit crab nor the sea anemone is negatively affected by their symbiotic and commensalistic relationship.

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And allow it to be dominated by false faith? Marxism? Do not dismiss human nature. Preserve natural patterns and tendencies. Restore the Reactionary Trichotomy, return it that of one which exhibits stability and balance. Do not allow your view of human action to be tainted by that of Marxist ideology.



Only if you think free market means literally no regulation.



Recognising that the inventive system capitalism is formulated around required occasional nudging to keep things acting as capitalist theory describes doesn't make someone a leftist.



I personally do think that, it's in fact because of this belief, not in spite of it, that I contend monarchy and the free market are not only compatible but mutually beneficial to one another.

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Absolutism only appeals to aesthetics-fags and semi-reformed fascists. It is better than democracy, but worse than the monarchies of the middle ages. It has created a worthless class of nominal aristocrats in France, and forever tarnished the name of aristocracy. It has directly spawned democracy; you couldn't reform a society in the middle ages to be democratic, as the sovereignty wasn't vested in a single entity to begin with.

Absolutism appeals to authoritarians and totalitarians, and to esotericists who imbue the state with spiritual forces. Their views are historically unjustifiable, as absolutist governments were still very liberal for modern standards, but they are still hard to get rid off, as these kinds of people don't care for facts so much as for narratives and aesthetics. We will have a hard time getting rid of people who think that absolutism is just upgraded fascism as long as we fawn over every guy with a silly beard wearing a 19th century military uniform. Let's face it: Monarchs can be mediocre, too. They can be progressive, and they can be heretical. Kaiser Wilhelm II was a zionist and esotericist tool, and to drool over him for the sake of aesthetics is ridiculous. I'd take him over Merkel any day, but "better than Merkel" is not a sign of great quality. And don't get me started on Frederick II, who was most likely gay, and who was definitely influenced by Voltaire.

Society is supposed to be symbiotic and organic, and it was during the middle ages. Not so much during the era of absolutism. Again, absolutist government, in the grand scheme of things, was still a fine form of government. It is also most exemplary of monarchy. However, we should be very careful about advertising it too much. It might be effective for attracting people, but that won't be of much use if half of them end up as buffoons who talk of "liberal ontology" like it means something and cannot think of people as anything other than subjects to a king.

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so you like feudalism op?



Meh. The ideal sounds good, but the historical situation was often different. On the one hand, kings had more power in the High Middle Ages than they are sometimes given credit for, but on the other, land ownership seems to have been more common than people seem to think. I'd still call myself a medieval enthusiast, the time had a lot of good to offer, the arts, the general spirit, and in some ways, it was even more libertarian.



there is great lecture on medieval roots of free market but it is in polish

do you know polish?



Sadly not, I don't know if I ever will but Polish doesn't sound like a bad choice. Can you send me a link or so? That's a topic that would interest me, and if I cannot read it myself, maybe I will in the future. Or if not, I can at least send it to Polefags.


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you are a burger arent you?

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Contribute music, preferably monarchy-related.

Marches, songs, and contemporary music.

WebM, mp4, and Youtube.

Music inspires.

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what god do they believe in?



Hell, I don't know.

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Post ITT every time you visit /monarchy/, so that we can generate more activity on this board.

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All right, you ready for this?

My mother is Russian Orthodox and so is the rest of my family.





Women use sex to gain wealth and power. White men are still a better source than other men. It's not hard.



No one disputes that. Women chase after attractive men, and white men are the most attractive. That fact wasn't what was being questioned, it was the NEETSoc's moronic "hurr all white whamens are trash" cuck fantasy.


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>abloo bloo bloo, muh poor Germanic people!

Nggers and psychopaths are also very stable, up until the moment they start robbing and killing people around them, no difference with your shitty fascist states.



I guess I was expecting semi-inspiring C.S. Lewis "I found God behind the couch" kind of deal, but nothing wrong with that straightforward approach too.

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American imperialists took away the power of my blessed monarch, the emperor of Japan.

We Japanese will rise again. Our rightful clay will be returned to us plus more.

Japanese Empire thread

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shintoism is a polytheist religion like indianism and hellenism

it has no place in the world we christians want



im not christian


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It's closer to animism than polytheism. Christianity is no stranger to coexisting with belief in the existence of nature spirits and such. Hell, in Romania and Ukraine, there at least used to be a tradition of putting painted Easter eggs into rivers to let underground ratmen know when it was time to celebrate Easter. As long as people aren't worshipping them, it should be fine, far as I'm aware.



i was baptised as catholic yearsa ago thought

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Do so many monarchs end up endorsing liberalism (European meaning of the word, not American) and liberty to the point of cucking themselves because they get exhausted? I mean exhausted in the sense of, "I HATE this job, is there any way I can reduce my workload in any way possible?"

Pedro II is the ideal example that I'm sure a lot of you might be thinking of by this point in the post, but I also mean something much more subtle than that. It seems to be what happened to the British monarchy. They kept delegating more and more of their job not because of some ideological political stance, but because they already had so many other things to do and would just rather not be bothered with them–especially if they're just going to get criticized for any little thing. Until now it got to the point where they just do the ceremonial, and even that's fucking exhausting because even that is under a goddam microscope of analysis and you end up getting someone like Prince William. The Spanish monarchy seems to have undergone this process incredibly quickly.

Did this process not happen as vigorously in the past or in poorer countries today because media, the economy, and society as a whole was/is so much simpler?

Why are so many modern monarchs cucks?

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>TFW you live in the most corrupt republic on the planet specifically created out of a peasant revolt against the british crown, which no claimants over the entirety of the modern country's territory whatsoever, and who's only claimants over certain parts of it are a ceremonial british hag and a deposed Hawaiian cheiftain

Fellow burgers of /monarchy/, how do you cope with your beliefs in such a society where monarchism is completely alien? Is the Mad Monarchist correct in the assertion that we all should just give up hope or move back to the Old World?

I myself am a Russian descendent from White Immigrants (grandfather was a minor noble who fought for Monarchists in the Russian Civil War)- and considering the fact that I can't seem to find any legitimate American Monarchist organizations- should I just get the hell out of dodge and join the Monarchist Party of Russia?

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Honestly, there's no good candidates for monarch, and not enough for other positions of nobility.


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This is a lot like procrastination, it's like in today's totalitarian democracies where we can't even choose a new president for our countries because we are essentially giving someone so much power that everyone sort of becomes paralyzed with indecision and the elections start to feel like the start of a civil war.

The solution, and the number one goal of any American monarchist should be this: to decentralize the US into a thousand sovereign realms united by a loose confederacy that prevents civil war. It's easier to pick a minor lord to rule your city than it is to pick the king of the whole country, the further you decentralize, the easier it gets choose your ruler. For all intents and purposes, it's still a hereditary monarchy, the nobility will just have to compete and cooperate for the higher ranking titles and territories until you end up with a proper hierarchy of knights, barons, counts, dukes, and even a king.

Don't play the democrat's game, don't think like republicans, instead of arguing and banging your head against the wall trying to figure out who will be the best candidate-elect for the God-Emperor of all North America, do a bottom-up approach and figure out how this system of ranks and titles will work so that so that natural selection can (preferably peacefully) take place instead of a bureaucracy that would prevent the best of the nobility advance in rank. If you can't figure this out, you will always be handicapped as a movement, even if you would get quite popular, you will still be playing by liberals rules, trying to prove not only to outsiders but also to other monarchists that your specific candidate (assuming you even have one) will be the best choice for a long-lasting American dynasty.



As I said, I don't think there's anywhere near enough good options to fill out the lower levels of the nobility. Any competition would inevitably have to be formulated by bureaucrats or run the risk of devolving into the very kind of civil conflict you're talking about avoiding.


Reposting question from another thread:


What should be done with America? In an ideal world.

Would you have a Kingdom of America? What religion or culture would the monarch be from? Would it be a centralized realm or very decentralized like the HRE? Elective monarchy or hereditary? Would it have to be cut into multiple kingdoms? (Say Kingdom of Dixie, Kingdom of California, Kingdom of Texas… some ideas maybe).

How do you deal with the clusterfuck of religions, races, and ethnicities on this continent basically? Or do you just nuke it from orbit? Have fun with this thought experiment.




Depends on what you mean by ideal. On a certain level, an American monarchy would have existed pretty much from the country's independence.

>Would you have a Kingdom of America? What religion or culture would the monarch be from? Would it be a centralized realm or very decentralized like the HRE?

Who to make monarch is by far one of the biggest issues of modern American monarchism. Regarding culture, an American monarch is non-negotiable. As for the rest, a hereditary monarch reigning from DC over a union of American Principalities would be ideal. Some of the bigger and more populated states should probably be broken up, but otherwise the states are probably fine as the Principalities. Maybe a bit of merging of the really tiny ones on the east coast, but they tend to be much more densely populated so maybe not.

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What should be done with America? In an ideal world.

Would you have a Kingdom of America? What religion or culture would the monarch be from? Would it be a centralized realm or very decentralized like the HRE? Elective monarchy or hereditary? Would it have to be cut into multiple kingdoms? (Say Kingdom of Dixie, Kingdom of California, Kingdom of Texas… some ideas maybe).

How do you deal with the clusterfuck of religions, races, and ethnicities on this continent basically? Or do you just nuke it from orbit? Have fun with this thought experiment.


Please see






Preferably >>824 , since that one is not bumplocked.


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>another burger thread

This board really is our personal purgatory.

legit; low quality/repetitive threads lately


Everyone wants to try and fix us. We can't be fixed.



Reposted your question here: >>7891 and will answer it.



How do you think an Imperialist party would do in the Uk. With support for the monarchy at a high whilst they do nothing, how do you guys think a party that supports an imperialist agenda would go?


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>popular in the current year

<also, political parties


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idk but what if we get pol (and other young autists, maybe even zoomers) into imperialism? it's more aesthetic than fascism



we are governed by the objective dictates of conscience rather than subjective loyalty to our nation and people.

imperialism could never flourish. we can't even stand up for the right of our people to exist.



…maybe not a bad idea. It's a step up from fascism, at least.

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