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Day shall come again!

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 No.138[Reply]

Nice board. What are you fucks going to about shit-tier literature such as GoT overshadowing your favourite work(s)?

Shit-taste normies are ranking GoT above LOTR, and they're getting away with it. How do we restore supremacy?

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 No.279

>>277

Yes.

The movies played heavily on Tolkien as a whole rather than a self contained story to sell themselves.

Funny enough that means the story of the book itself was terribly adapted.


 No.322

GRRM will die before he finishes asoiaf and LotR will continue to reign supreme.


 No.323

>>162

Wheel of Time is my favourite series. Hard to believe that its story only takes place over the course of three years.


 No.336

>>323

I'm starting the fifth book and Rand seriously gets on my nerve.

I would gladly put a collar on Moiraine, if you know what I mean


 No.340

>>336

He gets a little better. Him turning into an asshole as he gains power is actually a plot point, and it gets rectified when he has this fact thrown in his face.

I know exactly what you mean Those books were how I found out that BDSM was a thing I regret nothing




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 No.298[Reply]

why are you celebrating tolkenism and tolkien based fantasy

instead of wishing it to end and die

we need to revive the fantasy genre

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 No.328

>>298

Tolkien was essentially trying to recreate some of the lost religion/mythos of the Celts, Scandinavians/Germans, and Anglo-Saxons (a Germanic branch). Which is funny, because he was a Catholic and you can blame the Northern Crusades for the destruction of that heritage… and so much more.


 No.329

>>317

>>328

Meant this for you.

This is why I always want to play the Germanic Pagans in CKII, and pawn the Christians and Muslims. What originally attracted me to Japan was the fact that they were never conquered by Semitic religion. Not the aesthetics of the people, or even the natural land itself.

The destruction of the druids in Albion, is especially grievous to my mind. What art and knowledge was lost?


 No.330

>>317

What about the Eldar Scrolls world?


 No.331

>>298

Fantasy in the modern world is hard.


 No.339

>>328

>you can blame the Northern Crusades for the destruction of that heritage.

Most definitely not.

In fact, what little we know of those mythologies and folk tales was written down by the Christian converts. It's thanks to the Christians we even have a record of that part of our history at all.

>>329

Druidism and Celtic paganism wasn't destroyed by Christians. The Anglo-Saxon invaders didn't convert to Christianity until after they had driven out the native Brittonic people.




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 No.221[Reply]

Post some mother fucking maps!

Also assuming all anons are the Noldor in exile, which boards are which realms

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 No.289

>>288

10/10

I've never seen some of those.


 No.296

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>>259

>>224

>Endor

Excuse me?


 No.335

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>crack open my old copy of The Hobbit

>look at the map

>for some reason I decided to highlight a bunch of shit in red marker

>it bled through a bunch of pages

I don't even know what the fuck I was thinking.


 No.337

>>335

>writing in books without proper planning.

Did you do it as a kid?

I have a few books like that.

My kid self was a shitter.




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 No.133[Reply]

Does /arda/ lift, excercise. or train a martial art?

Your lifting has Tolkien-related reasons?

I'm a Catholic Tolkiendil so my reasons are mainly religious, but I've always considered one of my motivations the physical mastery that the heroes of Arda needed to accomplish their great feats of valour and sacrifice.

By now I am in my third year doing a weightlifting routine in a push/pull/legs split. I'm training to join the Intelligence agency of my country of origin (wich is not an english-speaker as you can see).

Also general thread to discuss routines or anything Tolkien /fit/-related.

 No.135

>>133

I generally just try to keep a decent looking physique. So mainly I do cardio and a little bit of yoga. I don't specifically do it for Tolkien, but I do, however, do it out of respect for who I am. I do it for white people, for men, for Christians, etc.


 No.202

>>133

I really ought to get off my ass and get fit so I can go out and have more adventures.


 No.206

I've been lifting for years. I took up boxing about nine months ago. I never explicitly connected it to Tolkein. But now that I think of it, it makes sense.

I often draw on scenes from Tolkein to psych myself up for big efforts. You wanna fight Morgoth, kid? You better lift this weight. Worried about this fight? You know who wasn't worried? Fingolfin, and he fought someone way tougher.


 No.207

>>206

You ever listen the Time Stands Still before a fight?


 No.332

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>>133

When i train i strive to be a warrior of Evropa, i Do BJJ(Brazilian Jiu Jitsu with a bit of MMA on the side) 4 times a week with Strong lifts with some body-weight movements (I dont do nonfunctional strength, i train for power and speed), i do that 2-3 times a week.

I will train everyday excpet sunday, which is the sabbath day were i will rest and go to church.

On the side i will read and study Striving to be Ubermensch/Christian With the use of Tolkien, Hellenic, National Socialism, European pride motivation




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 No.307[Reply]

Wow, this board started advertising the minute I actually had a question about the hobbit. Anyone I was watching some clips from the Hobbit last night and a thought came into my head.

What would of happened if Smaug killed Bilbo got a hold of the ruling ring?

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 No.319

>>309

>it's worth to note that he couldn't order Durin's Bane.

Really?


 No.320

>>319

Yes. In the book it isn't stated that the balrog doesn't necessarily obey Sauron, he merely allows his plans/minions to run about.

The orcs/goblins follow Sauron.


 No.321

>>320

Goddamn it fuck my double negative

>it isn't stated that the balrog necessarily obeys Sauron*

There we go. Fixed.


 No.326

>>319

>>320

A personal theory I have about the "pecking order" on the remnants of Morgoth's forces, is that balrogs are the most loyal to Morgoth. They saved him from Ungoliant, and every task they have been given they have accomplished it. Meanwhile Sauron got his ass kicked by a half-maia, lost his fortress and then willingly surrendered when Morgoth fell. It's no wonder they have little respect for him and would not follow his orders.


 No.327

>>326

>Meanwhile Sauron got his ass kicked by a half-maia

Who was also a woman.

But to be fair, she also bested Morgoth himself in a contest of wills, so Sauron had an excuse at least.




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 No.78[Reply]

I first read JRR Tolkien when I was 13 with my father. As I grew up, I developed the same philosophy of my father and the love for Aryan literature.

As an Aryan American voting for trump, I think we owe it to Tolkien to post Aryan American beauties that reflect his fiction.

>vid related, the Princess of /pol/

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 No.220

>>219

It is not the last epic, because whatever may come to pass in the coming years, the last epic of our peoples will be told.


 No.294

>>78

>>160

>>219

>sullying tolkein's good name by associating him with your disgusting ideology

Kill yourselves


 No.306

>>294

Don't be so butthurt. You're gonna find a lot of NatSocs on this board. Tolkien attracts traditionalists a lot.


 No.310

>>306

nnationalist socialism has nothing to do with traditionalism.


 No.318

>>310

It has a lot to do with traditionalism, even if it also differs in a lot of ways.

Also even if it didn't, you'd still get NatSocs as Tolkien's world is very Germanic and pagan, even if tempered with a lot of Christian theology as well.




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 No.168[Reply]

>>Eru Illuvatar is a lie.

>>Only Azathoth is real, kept in a state of dreaming by the sound of lutes and cymbals.

>>That is not dead which can eternal lie,

And with strange aeons even death may die.

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 No.197

>>195

Befora Ea was created Melkor was the one who wandered the void alone. Who's to say who corrupted who first.


 No.198

>>197

In the void there was nothing

I mean in the darkness of Ëa, not in the dark voids outside the Timeless Halls of Eru.


 No.295

>>168

I would love to see a tolkein/lovecraft crossover.


 No.297

>>295

I would hate it.

Tolkien is too dignified for silly shit like crossovers.


 No.305

>>295

As it was mentioned by

>>194

There's already plenty Lovecraft in Tolkien. And remember that Lovecraft was before Tolkien. Considering how well read he was, maybe he read Lovecraft too.




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 No.238[Reply]

So guys, I have this copy of the Simarillion that I kind of want to turn into a small little "bible" of Tolkien texts, mostly poems not featured on it.

To do this I'd have to write on it. Naturally I'm intending to practice and I'll using a dipping pen, but I'm kind of straining with the idea of writing in a book. Was always thought never to do such things besides in schoolbooks.

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 No.275

>>253

If I'm gonna do it, I'll do it myself.

Although the paper my Silmarillion copy is printed on would never work for it.

I'm crazy enough to get actual manuscript paper and actually hand copy the entire thing. I just need to find it.


 No.290

>>275

>I'm crazy enough to get actual manuscript paper and actually hand copy the entire thing. I just need to find it.

That would take a long ass time. Its a big book. But if you ever get around doing it, please, post pictures of your progress.


 No.291

>>290

I couldn't find any manuscript in shops around me. I have zero idea where to find it besides ordering online, which is a hassle.


 No.292

>>291

Art ateliers usually have them. Is there none in your area?


 No.293

>>292

Not that I know of. I can try asking someone.




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 No.281[Reply]

o-oh my

 No.282

>Not pronounced Ainur correctly

Instantly turned off.

My autism can't handle that.


 No.283

>>282

>ayynur




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 No.189[Reply]

Post your favorite Tolkien related music.

Stuff from movie or game soundtracks, recreations of songs that are in the books, songs that mention Tolkien characters, etc.

Here is Tolkien himself singing "Namarie" (Galadriel's Lament in Lorien)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkuHrD_xlJY

For those that haven't heard of it, check out "The Road Goes Ever On" song cycle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_Goes_Ever_On

>With Tolkien's approval, Donald Swann wrote the music for this song cycle

>The sole exception is the Quenya song "Namárië," which was based on a tune by Tolkien himself

Led Zeppelin famously has a few references to Tolkien's work in their songs. "Ramble On" being the most obvious one with it's mentions of Mordor and Gollum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0NFaQcTJsg

Billy Boyd's "The Last Goodbye" he wrote for Jackson's shitty Hobbit movies is gorgeous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8ir8rVl2Z4

And I love the soundtracks to the LOTR movie trilogy so much I'm actually having trouble choosing a track to post.

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 No.243

>>242

Okay, Anon, just for you:

>The time has come again, the mau'rûng marches to the fields

>Brings death into your lands, brings hate into your world

>With steel in our hands and hatred in our hearts

>It's too late to run away, here comes the pain!

>There is nothing that can stop us, no god, no army

>Because the gang's everything, the UB is everything

>And you don't fuck with the gang, shara, you better not

>Leave everything, take your people and go home

>Either you march with us or you march to your death

>Because every one of our uruks would die for our cause

>Every dude a sick psycho; Shira, Azshag, Throqush, Shapog'Gûr or TBK Azzlack

>We are looking for a fight, we don't forgive, we don't forget

>One one look from you and you get the knife

>Forget everything you know about fighting, you little bastard

>Because we don't wage war, we celebrate massacre

>The gang's everything, Kulat-ûr nûrzum

>Ushtarak Bûrzum, Ushtarak Bûrzum

>Run, shara, run, kulat-ûr nûrzum

>Ushtarak Bûrzum, Ushtarak Bûrzum

>The gang's everything, Kulat-ûr nûrzum

>Ushtarak Bûrzum, Ushtarak Bûrzum

>Burn, shara, burn, kulat-ûr nûrzum

>Ushtarak Bûrzum, Ushtarak Bûrzum

>You better step aside when you cross the army's path

>Stop your shenanigans, what's "road toll" supposed to mean?

>You come into our camp and want tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


 No.244

>>243

Shara is Orcish for Man right?


 No.245

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>>244

Yes. Mau'rûng means something like "war steamroller", pâra is probably copper. Golnug means elf, dverga means dwarf.

Oh, and Ushtarak Burzum means "Army of Darkness"


 No.273

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Got another one for you, embed related.


 No.274

>>273

God that's cool.

Still I can't help but think of that old addendum about people turning to Morgoth for worship. I know it's music in good fun, but reminds one of the New Shadow business.

Still great piece.




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 No.43[Reply]

Nice board, admin!

I know it's generally a sore topic, but let's talk video games. Specifically, why there hasn't been a single good Tolkien video game ever, or at least since War in Middle Earth (circa 1988).

I think part of the problem is that almost all vidya is very action-oriented these days, and while someone who's only seen the movies might think Tolkien is good vidya material for your run-of-the-mill AAA game, anyone who's read the books knows that it's not in the least bit suitable for your average formulas. But neither is it really good for a walking simulator, because Middle-Earth is very big, and dangerous in many places. Magic is far too subtle and rare for the tastes of your average gamer, and Tolkien hated war, so a good game would require a very tricky balance.

Early Tolkien games were much better than what we get now, even if they were far from flawless, and strayed from the books.

All that said, do you guys know of any good Tolkien games or mods? I know the Mount&Blade mod is supposed to be good, although it's certainly going to be action-centric. There was a total conversion mod for Skyrim called MERP that was looking great until Warner Brothers shut it down.

And, of course: What would your ideal Tolkien game be?

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 No.268

>>258

While we're on the subject, I looked into it and apparently The Last Days of the Third Age hasn't been in development since 2011. There is another LOTR-themed mod for Warband, it's called Blood in the West. Do you have any experience with that? Can you recommend it?


 No.269

>>153

I love FATW. Love how Herumor is the Mouth of Sauron. On that topic, has any part of The New Shadow been made public? Would be interesting to read, even if it's just a few pages.


 No.270

>>268

Last Days is much better, IMO.


 No.271

>>269

As in a game? Or the original concept?

All we know about it is in the book "Peoples of Middle-Earth", chapter of the same name.

http://www.tolkiengateway.net/wiki/The_New_Shadow


 No.272

>>270

Why is that?




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 No.215[Reply]

A few years back, I decided to make it my tradition to reread The Lord of the Rings around this time of year, when the weather turns cold. I'm making my way through book two of the Fellowship now. And what has struck me now are the bits of poetry and song throughout the books.

Now, when I first read the books as a kid, I really glossed over this stuff. I've never had a good feel for rhythm, and I've never been able to appreciate poetry. But I feel like I appreciate it a lot more now. Not only is it a neat way that Tolkein adds depth to his world, and gives us snippets about the deeds of the elder days, but it says something about the characters who compose and recite them. It seems like everyone can recite these poems from memory at the drop of a hat. Bilbo spends his retirement composing and reciting poems for the entertainment of the elves. Even Sam can quote verse about the fall of Gil Galad in the last alliance.

I’m sure this stems from the influence Tolkein took from the epic poems of the eddas and the Finnish Kalevala and such.

I thought I had a point when I started writing this, but my mind has wandered. I just like the view of a society that values poetry, and makes it such a basic part of their culture.

 No.216

Anyway, I'll leave you with a poem Gimli recites about Moria. I agree with Sam's reaction. I like it, and want to learn it.

“The world was young, the mountains green,

No stain yet on the Moon was seen,

No words were laid on stream or stone

When Durin woke and walked alone.

He named the nameless hills and dells;

He drank from yet untasted wells;

He stooped and looked in Mirrormere,

And saw a crown of stars appear,

As gems upon a silver thread,

Above the shadow of his head.

The world was fair, the mountains tall,

In Elder Days before the fall

Of mighty kings in Nargothrond

And Gondolin, who now beyond

The Western Seas have passed away:

The world was fair in Durin’s Day.

A king he was on carven throne

In many-pillared halls of stone

With golden roof and silver floor,

And runes of power upon the door.

The light of sun and star and moon

In shining lamps of crystal hewn

Undimmed by cloud or shade of night

There shone for ever fair and bright.

There hammer on the anvil smote,

There chisel clove, and graver wrote;

There forged was blade, and bound was hilt;

The delver mined, the mason built.

There beryl, pearl, and opal pale,

And metal wrought like fishes’ mail,

Buckler and corslet, axe and sword

And shining spears were laid in hoard.


 No.217

>>216

Unwearied then were Durin's folk;

Beneath the mountains music woke:

The harpers harped, the minstrels sang,

And at the gates the trumpets rang.

The world is grey, the mountains old,

The forge’s fire is ashen-cold;

No harp is wrung, no hammer falls:

The darkness dwells in Durin’s halls;

The shadow lies upon his tomb

In Moria, in Khazad-dûm.

But still the sunken stars appear

In dark and windless Mirrormere;

There lies his crown in water deep,

Till Durin wakes again from sleep.


 No.218

>>216

>>217

This is probably one of my favorite Tolkien related pieces.

The stanza that starts with "A king he was on carven throne" is brilliant.




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 No.203[Reply]

Any oldfags out there who can speak to Tolkien's role in counterculture in the '60s and '70s?

I know he hated the hippies, calling them a "deplorable cultus", and I think I once heard of him referring to them as his "misguided children" (though I can't find sauce on that right now), but I'd like to get some perspective from someone who was around back then. The only perspective I currently have is from my Dad, who was a non-degenerate halfway-hippie, the kind who appreciated Tolkien from his Catholic background as much as for its anti-industrial and anti-war themes, and who carved "Frodo Lives" in the walls of shelters in the Adirondacks during week-long backpacking trips instead of spray-painting it in the cities.

And, perhaps even more importantly, what role does Tolkien play now in counter-culture? It seems like /pol/ embraces him, despite his hatred of nazi ideology, simply for the purity of his Anglo-Saxon mythology.

 No.205

There is, unfortunately, no separating the 60s counter culture from Tolkien.

There is a subsection of his fans that tried their best to fight it. Tolkien Society for example is a product of that.

>What role does Tolkien play now in counter-culture

He's as important to the alt-right as he is to new left. Different is the new left feels the need to insert PC racial equality everywhere, while the alt-right can't help make analogies that Tolkien didn't welcome.




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 No.85[Reply]

I saw your ad on /a/.

There are loli elves in Tolkien's works, right?

 No.87

Well, all the elf-maids that you see were lolis at some point or another.

So you've got Lúthien, Galadriel, Aredhel, Idril, Finduilas and Arwen that were, at some point, lolis.

Also there's only one elf-maiden you see as a kid during the narrative that I can think of, and that's Elwing.


 No.99

Those are adorable op.


 No.179

Get out.




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 No.5[Reply]

After a false start and a long, index hopping slog through reading the book I have decided that listening to The Silmarillion is far superior to reading it because the names are all pronounced for me and the visualization of the poetry is way easier when listening than when reading.

I'm not sad I read it first though. Knowing the characters was important, and I had help with websites that have family trees and such. Very fun, but listening is such a joy.

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 No.10

Sweet board guys.. here's to hoping it spawns some good discussions though I'm not entirely too hopeful seeing how even /auto/ is pretty dead with 20 some users.

Anyways, here's the reading by Martin Shaw. I've read the text and listened to them and I prefer the audiobook solely because of the way Martin reads it. If it was anyone else I'd probably prefer the text.

https://archive.org/details/J.r.r.Tolkien-TheSilmarillion


 No.11

>>10

Yeah, I was waiting for /pol/ to have a thread so I could shill the board.

The other board about this is totally dead.


 No.13

>>11

Were you posting in that "non-degenerate media" thread? I was the one in there that posted about the Silmarillion audiobook in there.


 No.14

>>13

Nah there was an actual Tolkien thread.


 No.119

I treat this like a bible




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