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HAPPY FOUR YEAR ANNIVERSARY #GAMERGATE!

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cc04eb  No.331897

Saw a thread on AMD on /v/ and that just kinda reminded me about this sort of shit.

I feel that a thread should be made on this sort of thing, as what GG should be doing now that journo's influences have been vastly diminished, is convincing people to become ethical consumers. To be vocal with companies that they are middling in their feelings towards, to not buy anything from a company that has thrown away their goodwill, and most importantly to support companies that are willing to be ethical, and/or support gamers and GG. Other good attributes:

>Anti-censorship

>Anti-DRM

>Quality products

>Ethical behavior

>Supports communities and fanmade projects

>listens to actual consumers, doesn't give SJWS any quarter

and whatever else you can think of. If its a limited market, just say why you should support the alternatives, or at the very least why you shouldn't support the biggest (and oftentimes most unethical) taker of said market. I'd recommend providing archives for claims that not everyone might not be aware of.

I'll start with my own general set-up, let's try to keep this gaming, internet and gaming-tech related to keep the focus narrow for now; other mediums can wait till we've established something good here:

Storefronts and Retailers

>Itch.io

Basically just an indie store that has no significant issues as far as I'm aware. No real problems. Good enough, worth keeping in your rotation of stores to check out.

>Humble Bundle

Now owned by IGN. Not the best, but it seems to be okay(?). No significant issues besides that but (like anything else on this list) if any anons wants to point out something wrong with it or why it might not be worth using be my guest

>GoG

Basically a Steam alternative. Not great, but DRM-free commitment and a lack of shovelware makes them better than Steam, and much less censorship present as well, though heavy curation is involved there. Best large alternative to Steam as far as I'm aware, as many other storefronts just sell Steam Keys.

>Play-Asia

Anti-censorship attitudes along with actually supporting Japan, they also seem to lean more towards GG and actually pander towards gamers. High-ish prices though, but they're worth using.

>Mangagamer

Basically the GoG of VN storefronts and whatnot. They are staunchly anti-censorship and have a better relationship with Nippon and fanslators than Sekai Project and other places. They also give larger cuts (citation needed) of the money than other alternatives like DL-site which is known to be hyper-jewy (but DL-site is the second-best one in this regard afaik)

Don't use Steam if you can avoid it -

<They have their own DRM

<They have censored numerous titles

<They have pushed for paid mods

<They have incredible amounts of power in terms of online gaming storefronts, you'd be contributing to a near-monopoly

Try not to use Amazon for obvious reasons

<Jeff Bezos is a slimeball

<Amazon owns WaPo which is aGGro as fuck and part of the media conglomerate

<largest online storefront, don't contribute to near-monopolies

<anti-Trump (not a real reason but its more of a litmus test in this case)

<up to general sketchy shit and takes over small companies all the time, like the online space's equivalent of a Wal-Mart

Ethical and/or Good Web Browsers

>Pale Moon

Doesn't track you, is open-source, isn't SJWFox who fucked up functionality with Firefox quantum and basically gave the middle-finger to their power users.

>Waterfox

Literally a fork of Firefox before quantum that works with all plugins and add-ons and whatnot. It uses Ecosia and is open-source

>Iridium

Don't know shit about it but its supposedly an unpozzed fork of Google Chrome(?)

Sketchy.

Don't use Chrome if you can. Google needs no explanation at this point if you can't figure this one out.

Don't use Firefox, they're on a quick and slippery slope down to SJW hell. Quantum and update 57 fucked over countless users and they don't give a flying damn about it.

Search Engines

>Searx.me

Good enough search engine, respects privacy, is open-source, no major issues found.

>Ecosia

Supports tree-planting. Uses Bing infrastructure which is kinda sketchy, doesn't datamine outside of what is pretty much required for a search engine to operate, seems reliable and "good enough" again.

>Startpage

basically anonymized google, use it if the others don't give good results. Good enough results.

Gaming Tech and Peripherals

Gonna need some help filling out this one, since I don't keep up with all the companies.

A lot of the situation with these are unknown for me, if anyone has more information on MSI, AMD Asus, Acer, EVGA, Nvidia, Razer, Intel, Dell, etc. it would be helpful.

(cont. in next posts because of the shit text limit)

cc04eb  No.331898

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Gaming Tech and Peripherals

>AMD

similar to a GoG situation of being the best of the worst. They've pandered to GG during times when it was not popular at all to do so I'd give them credit for that at least, but its more of a "best of a bad lot example here". Considering how cancerous so many of these gaming tech companies are though, including AMD, it might be best to just buy your shit preowned in general.

>Nvidia

Not much to say here. they don't seem to be anti-GG or pro-GG as far as I'm aware.

Use your judgement between them since both aren't that great and performance is important.

Don't use Dell. They participated in the Gamers are dead attacks, or in this case, Gamers are worse than ISIS.

I'd personally recommend against Lenovo myself but their infractions aren't terrible compared to the worst of theindustry. They are a chink company known for inserting bad shit into their products (look up Superfish and crapware installs) and their product quality isn't ideal.

Don't use Intel. They gave Anita and Fem Frequency $ 300M. Far too big a sum for anyone to ignore period and they teamed up with numerous unethical media outlets and conglomerates such as Vox Media and Polygon to "fight online harassment".

EVGA, MSI, Acer, and Asus might as well be considered okay for intents and purposes. I use a combination of parts from these companies. Not enough is known in that case so feel free to provide information for or against using certain companies.

Localization companies

This is an especially hot and controversial topic as of right now so I'll try my best to be even more reasonable and fair to both sides.

>Atlus

Directly translated well enough. Didn't take shit from the localization clique, people are happy with them and they're still putting out good enough products.

>Sega

They do a good enough job when they want to. No significant problems outside of Denuvo which is more of a publishing thing on account of their size, rather than something that can directly be attributed towards localization

>Nintendo of Europe

They seem to be good? No big problems found. Not much to say here.

>Xseed

Best of the worst situation. A bit risky with an SJW environment, but for now they do good work for the most part. I'd recommend being vocal with them as I don't think they're beyond redemption but that's my personal assessment, use your judgment

>Spike Chunsoft

New American branch has potential. Keep an eye on them and support good habits and be vocal when you see something you don't like

>Idea Factory International

Now that Nick Doerr is gone, they seem to be okay. Not much to say here since they're pretty small though.

And of course support any and all fan translations and fan translation groups (preferably non-SJW and anti-censorship ones) you know.

Don't support:

>NIS America.

(IMO) They are beyond redemption. They are known for ruining games and butchering translations and have been doing so for years. Their product quality is known for being consistently poor. Its better to pirate or avoid playing their games, but if you think they have a chance of redemption go ahead; its just very unlikely given the circumstances

>Aksys

Less extreme than NIS America. They aren't known for the level of depth in terms of game and localization ruining, but their memes and god-awful translations are legendary when they do come out. Use your judgment here if you will support them, at least make sure to be vocal.

>Nintendo of America/Treehouse

In my personal opinion, they are beyond redemption. Their horrific handling of Fates and general censorship should tip off anyone that they are bad news, and they sent people over to Japan to attempt to ruin XC2's localization at the source.

They didn't seem to accomplish this, but I personally believe it to be a fluke. If you think they're supporting, again be vocal, send an email or something but I think they're beyond hope.

>8-4

Not as bad as some of the others here, but still bad. They seemed to have done good with Fire Emblem Echoes outside of a minor character being turned gay when he wasn't in the original game iirc.

>Sekai Project

… there's a lot more good companies than bad here I feel, getting tired listing them so it'd be easier for anons to ask threads and mirror information they find here, I'm only one anon.

http://otakuspirit.com/2018/04/why-ill-never-support-sekai-project-again/

cont.


cc04eb  No.331899

>>331898

goddamn the formatting of that post is ugly. Reposting (unfortunately I can't delete because of password fuckery, thanks codechimp)

Gaming Tech and Peripherals

>AMD

similar to a GoG situation of being the best of the worst. They've pandered to GG during times when it was not popular at all to do so I'd give them credit for that at least, but its more of a "best of a bad lot example here". Considering how cancerous so many of these gaming tech companies are though, including AMD, it might be best to just buy your shit preowned in general.

>Nvidia

Not much to say here. they don't seem to be anti-GG or pro-GG as far as I'm aware.

Use your judgement between them since both aren't that great and performance is important.

Don't use Dell.

<They participated in the Gamers are dead attacks, or in this case, Gamers are worse than ISIS.

https://archive.fo/mCrJe

I'd personally recommend against Lenovo myself but their infractions aren't terrible compared to the worst of the industry.

<They are a chink company known for inserting bad shit into their products (look up Superfish and crapware installs) and

<their product quality isn't ideal.

Don't use Intel.

<They gave Anita and Fem Frequency $ 300M. Far too big a sum for anyone to ignore period

<they teamed up with numerous unethical media outlets and conglomerates such as Vox Media and Polygon to "fight online harassment".

https://archive.is/XCqwW

EVGA, MSI, Acer, and Asus might as well be considered okay for intents and purposes. I use a combination of parts from these companies. Not enough is known in that case so feel free to provide information for or against using certain companies.

Localization companies

This is an especially hot and controversial topic as of right now so I'll try my best to be even more reasonable and fair to both sides.

>Atlus

Directly translated well enough. Didn't take shit from the localization clique, people are happy with them and they're still putting out good enough products.

>Sega

They do a good enough job when they want to. No significant problems outside of Denuvo which is more of a publishing thing on account of their size, rather than something that can directly be attributed towards localization

>Nintendo of Europe

They seem to be good? No big problems found. Not much to say here.

>Xseed

Best of the worst situation. A bit risky with an SJW environment, but for now they do good work for the most part. I'd recommend being vocal with them as I don't think they're beyond redemption but that's my personal assessment, use your judgment

>Spike Chunsoft

New American branch has potential. Keep an eye on them and support good habits and be vocal when you see something you don't like

>Idea Factory International

Now that Nick Doerr is gone, they seem to be okay. Not much to say here since they're pretty small though and mainly do Nep games.

And of course support any and all fan translations and fan translation groups (preferably non-SJW and anti-censorship ones) you know. There's others I can't think of, feel free to suggest them here.

Don't support:

>NIS America.

(IMO) They are beyond redemption. They are known for ruining games and butchering translations and have been doing so for years. Their product quality is known for being consistently poor. Its better to pirate or avoid playing their games, but if you think they have a chance of redemption go ahead; its just very unlikely given the circumstances

>Aksys

Less extreme than NIS America. They aren't known for the level of depth in terms of game and localization ruining, but their memes and god-awful translations are legendary when they do come out. Use your judgment here if you will support them, at least make sure to be vocal.

>Nintendo of America/Treehouse

In my personal opinion, they are beyond redemption. Their horrific handling of Fates and general censorship should tip off anyone that they are bad news, and they sent people over to Japan to attempt to ruin XC2's localization at the source.

They didn't seem to accomplish this, but I personally believe it to be a fluke. If you think they're supporting, again be vocal, send an email or something but I think they're beyond hope.

>8-4

Not as bad as some of the others here, but still bad. They seemed to have done good with Fire Emblem Echoes outside of a minor character being turned gay when he wasn't in the original game iirc.

>Sekai Project

… there's a lot more good companies than bad here I feel, getting tired listing them so it'd be easier for anons to ask threads (in this case, the Visual novel threads on /v/) and mirror information they find here, I'm only one anon.

http://otakuspirit.com/2018/04/why-ill-never-support-sekai-project-again/

There are more I can't remember, feel free to suggest them here.


cc04eb  No.331926

in the wake of Steam's shittery, jastusa seems like a good additional alternative for VNs in addition to MangaGamer

I find it pretty hilarious that the steam shittery happens literally 2 days after I make this thread


419ced  No.331931

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>>331898

Here's updated version of infograph.


cc04eb  No.332114

Just found out about Aquaplus.

They seem to be a good localization company as far as I'm aware, and they deserve support.


5c95dc  No.332350

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fd813e  No.332366

>>332350

>Gameranx

Weren't they one of the cancers involved during Gamergate?

Based Gamer was a scam company

N4G is just a content aggregator and they've been revealed to have some sketchiness

Dualshockers should probably be moved towards the middle

Honeybadgers isn't really relevant to gaming, nor is Kiwi Farms or ED.

The rest are good though as far as I'm aware.


fd813e  No.332367

.So I made an attempt at some compelling reasons towards using some alternatives for Steam and figured I'd copy-paste it here

Playism

>DRM-free and proud of it

>helps out indie developers with debugging, localization and whatnot and works with nipponese and english developers alike

>Japan-based and created by them with good relationships

>responsible for publishing some good indie games (Cave Story, One Way Heroics, Kero Blaster, etc.)

http://playism-games.com/

Gamejolt

>Has their own client (still in beta though but good enough)

>DRM-free

>A shit-ton of indie and passion project games (but basically no curation)

>No known censorship problems so far and overall good-sounding

>established community

https://gamejolt.com/

And of course MangaGamer and JAST for your lewd shit from nippon:

>localizations are improving over time

>they work with the nips closely and are good overall

>also offer physical products for some of their games

>DRM-free

>Staunchly anti-censorship in the case of MG and JAST offered a place for some of the developers getting censored by Valve right now

https://www.mangagamer.com/

https://jastusa.com/

GoG

>Staunchly anti-DRM

>offers some major titles that Steam used to have as exclusive; might be a viable competitor at some point in the future

>acted as a refuge for numerous VNs and small devs during the waifupocalypse

>lots of support for old games

>high-quality curation overall, and is improving over time

<not as trustworthy as the other alternatives because of Sean's firing and the way they handle social media

<curation is opaque as all hell and good games get lost in it

They're less recommended now than the others, but still better than using (((Steam))) if you have to.

>Itch.io

>DRM-free

>choose what you pay to the developers (can be up to 100% afaik, ensuring that their actions as a middleman can be limited unless that changes)

>lots of support for indie developers

>no known instances of censorship; unknown if curated at all but presumed not to be

<Lead people in charge of it are known to be pro-censorship, making them not entirely trustworthy, one should be wary and cautious when using them

J-list

>Sells general good from Japan, from food to manga to figs to vidya

>sells adult goods from Japan, little worries about them censoring

>works with publishers like JAST to sell games

>Very pro-Japan; is an importer

https://www.jlist.com/

>Right-Stuf Anime

>Recommended by operationrainfall and other generally good sources

>is an independent distributor and publisher of video and whatnot

>offers vidya options and other shit as well

>no real problems found

https://www.rightstufanime.com

Play-Asia

>Staunchly anti-censorship; even going so far as to mock Sony's censorship policies on their social media platforms

>anti-SJW and pro-GG

>imports everything from adult goods and vidya to other assorted things, overall solid and they're improving all the time with a wide selection

>excellent customer service

>also recommended by oprainfall, nichegamer and numerous other pro-GG and good neutral places; sometimes works with them for giveaways and whatnot

https://www.play-asia.com/


5c95dc  No.332375

>>332366

yes this is here to be updated




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