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A WARNING TO ALL NEW USERS IF YOU ARE NOT A HIKIKOMORI I WILL BAN YOU!! People who are going to work or school are not Hikikomori There are many people on here who can not leave their home Please choose your topic with consideration IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN AT HOME INSIDE YOUR ROOM FOR AT LEAST 6 MONTHS OR MORE THEN DON'T POST HERE!

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0fa9ba  No.6218[Reply]

Board owner here i decided to make a brand new meta thread because the other one was old. Feel free to leave any suggestions comments complaints criticisms or concerns you may have about the board.. I will try to respond to every post as possible thank you all once again for your feedback.

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16cf5a  No.7241

>>7226

>He made a thread on our /pol/ about his plan to attack and he gave a link to his facebook livestream:

Oh shit yeah he's a faggot for bringing normalfags here fuck him to be honest protip if you are gonna commit a mass shooting announce it on 4chan or reddit not 8chan.




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52a28e  No.1[Reply]

Welcome to /hikki/ a place for reclusive adolescents or adults who withdraw from society.

What is allowed on this board? What is its purpose?

On this board you can discuss and request or give advice regarding the Hikikomori lifestyle anxieties and social or mental issues arising from these conditions of living and also post general hikikomori discussion If you're content with being a hikikomori that's ok, and you won't get in trouble for saying so.

What is not allowed on this board?.

Rule 1. Please do not encourage anyone to become a hikikomori

Rule 2. Do not bully or harass someone simply for being a hikikomori

Rule 3. Keep trolling to a minimum (No flames)

Rule 4. Do not help others to plan or commit suicide suicide threads are fine but it is better to give advice rather than to lead the person on.

Rule 5. No topics not related to this board please

Rule 6. Encouraging any kind of drug use

Rule 7. Giving or requesting advice on how to enter the Hikikomori lifestyle

Rule 8. No Shitposting please be respectful and be genuine with your post /hikki/ is a slow traffic board for true hikikomoris to have a place to talk and nothing more.

Rule 9. Always check he catalog before creating a new thread, do not create a new thread asking for things that simply don't deserve a whole new thread dedicated to them

Rule 10. You must be a hikikomori or have been a hikikomori to post here

And All 8chan global rules apply

1: Nothing illegal under US law.

2. No suggestive images of rePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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52a28e  No.10

PLEASE READ

WHAT Does HIKIKOMORI MEAN?

The term Hikikomori ひきこもり or 引きこもり is a Japanese word that when translated into English it means “pulling inward, being confined”,acute social withdrawal “) in context of a person the term refers to a shut-in who stays home and does not leave their room for very long periods usually for about 6 months or more.

WHAT IS A HIKIKOMORI?

Hikikomori is a social condition in which the affected individual isolates themselves from society at home in their room for a period exceeding six months however contrary to popular belief some hikikomori go outside but only for necessities or emergencies. The Ministry of Health, Labour, and Welfare of Japan defines hikikomori as those who have lived in isolation in their bedrooms for at least 6 months do not attend school or leave to go to work have no physical injury or mental disorder as the cause of their isolation have no close friends or few friends (If any) and do not communicate with people besides the people they live with such as family members.

So A NEET?

Most hikikomori are neets and are supported by their parents or get money from the government however if you work or take classes online at home while still not going outside you are still a hikikomori but not a neet and a neet isn’t necessarily a hikikomori nor vice versa. You could be a hikikomori neet. But if you are a neet that does spend a moderate amount of time outside your house you are still a neet but you are not a hikikomori

DO HIKIKOMORI GO OUTSIDE?

Yes and no contrary to popular belief most hikikomori actually do go outside for example to buy food but are still completely isolated socially and spend nearly everyday or almost everyday at home in their rooms however some hikikomori live in extreme conditions and never leave the house at all.

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dc2a8a  No.3913[Reply]

Since the majority of us on here are currently living as hikikomoris and most hikkis spend most of their time online i thought we could have a thread where we share any interesting links we have come across recently.

ITT Share any interesting links you have came across recently books movies music whatever Rules 3. and 8. still apply as well as all 8chan global rules.

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312df7  No.7257

>>7249

>>7253

psychology is so inefficient it's unethical.


119229  No.7269

Exercises for hikikomori. Just something I've had bookmarked for a while.

https://ask.metafilter.com/213615/Exercise-for-the-hikikomori


c93c8a  No.7289

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610,000 middle-aged people between 40 to 64 living as hikikomori in Japan.

http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201903290056.html


9cc420  No.7342

>>4185

Is there a version of Hikikomori News in English? Chrome Translate is all over the place.


c93c8a  No.7365

>>7342

>Is there a version of Hikikomori News in English? Chrome Translate is all over the place.

Yes

http://www.hikikomori-news.com/?cat=38




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fae0d3  No.4889[Reply]

Do any recovering hikkis on here go to therapy?? if yes does it help in any way??.

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a98c97  No.6395

I have twice and both times it was just him going over generalized stuff that I could have googled, it was a good experience i guess

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d509a3  No.6398

>>6395

Sounds kinda boring anon.


000185  No.6434

I recently quit talk therapy again. The only thing i go to anymore is to the mental health clinic to get more refills from the "prescriber". I wouldn't even do that but they only give me 2 refills per visit and will cut me off if i dont call and make an appointment. The meds make me functional enough to where i can think about things realistically. Talk therapy is shit. All it ever does is either make me worse when i let them in my head, or its just a waste of my time and an annoyance when i just humor them. This last time i was given the "go to therapy or get out" treatment by my uncle because of course normalfags think talking to some bitch for an hour will solve my psychosis. I take anti-psychotics, not ADHD meds and my fucking family still acts like i'm going to recover or something. I'm done, man. I'm going to drink and jack off a bit more but this is nearing the end for me. I won't be the sad empty-headed cunt who occasionally ends up in the psych ward for walking into traffic or otherwise making a fool of himself. I'm ending this while I still have a sense of self. Though, I don't think I have the energy to run away like i always planned so i can hide my body. Not sure what i'm going to do.


107c0c  No.7352

Seems like this thread is pretty dead but I thought I'd contribute anyway

Ive been going to a therapist for a few months now. I've seen several therapist over the years but they all seemed to kinda not be sure what to do with me and our appointments would get less and less frequent until id just stop going entirely. This new one though still insists on seeing me every week and he isn't really entirely nice at me. The sessions actually make me pretty anxious and uncomfortable but I guess there's no point in getting help from someone who's just going to tell you whatever you want to hear. I'm not sure if anything about this has helped or will help at all though. I kinda feel as if I am beyond the point of that being possible. Although I do appreciate the effort and I think this therapist is probably better than any of the other ones I've had. I'm sure in some situations a therapist can help but maybe you just need the right one. I've also been on a bunch of different SSRIs but never really noticed any effects beyond pretty minor side effects so I still don't really know if those had ever been worthwhile.


3adf86  No.7363

I've found some success with therapy, though it takes fucking forever. I've worked with 4 different shrinks now and three of them weren't remotely close to useful. My current therapist has been helping me make some progress regarding dealing with my extreme self hatred/anxiety, but the progress is extremely slow and expensive.

tl;dr it helps me but it isn't exactly a solution i would globally recommend




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32621f  No.4347[Reply]

Are you content with being alone? Do you have any online (friends/)contacts which you occasionally talk to? If not, is it a conscious choice or is it more like you're unable to find someone? What are you all doing against loneliness? It gets tiring when you've nobody to talk to for long periods (1 year or more). The things you do are just repeated that you've did already at a previous point in your life ad infinitum, i.e it's a hopeless cycle without escape. That brings me to my next point, have you considered killing yourself because of that, to escape this damned cycle? I just wish my life wouldn't be boring, anime, movies and other things get old very fast because you've seen the best already and at a later point even "hidden gems" my seem boring due to you knowing of a similar scenario already. Even if I had the perfect live, I probably still would feel dissatisfied… There's just no fun in the world like in fiction.

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eeaf5b  No.5116

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OP here again. It seems there are many people who want a friend? Why not write me an email, I might be a bit more social online, but it's usually quite hard for me in RL…. and I'm a very kind and caring person!


594f34  No.5118

>>5113

>I never know how to maintain friendships. I don't know when to call/text/email a person, or if I should bother at all because I always think to myself "If they really wanted to talk to me, they would probably just contact me themselves instead of waiting for me to contact them. Maybe they don't want to talk to me anymore."

I can relate to this all too well and this is probably one of the reasons why i lost all of my irl friends a long time ago i don't care to make new friends to be honest.

>I dare say that you've come to the right place. As far as internet users go, I doubt it gets more anti-social than us. Most of us have few or no friends (I have none) and we avoid doing things like joining discords or posting pictures/personal information of ourselves.

This is true.

>That's basically how this place operates on a daily basis. We all try to be kind and understanding to one another because we're all hikikomoris and social outcasts, so the discussion is always pretty comfy because we're in a board of like-minded individuals.

You got it anon probably one of the most comfiest and friendliest boards ever on 8chan.


c8713c  No.7301

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>Are you content with being alone?

For the longest time, I used to be. I've been this way for almost 12 years now and, for about 7 of those years, I was largely at peace with my isolated existence and, in fact, never once got lonely. I essentially had no concept of the sensation whatsoever. Funny how, at least back then, I pretty much thought of myself as being immune to any kind of loneliness. "I could spend the rest of my life living on Mars, never speaking to or interacting with another person ever again, and be utterly unphased. Hell, I'd probably enjoy it! I'm beyond such needs or desires and hold loneliness, and those who are plagued by it, in contempt.", being one such common thought. Yeah well, so much for that. Guess I wasn't so special after all. Turns out, I'm just as susceptible to it as anyone else. A fact that I'm still greatly disappointed with myself over, frankly. I truly envy those who can maintain that similar kind of immunity to loneliness I seemed to momentarily possess, except extended through their whole lives. Then again, people like that might very well just be lying to themselves and are still suffering on the inside, whether they want to admit to it or not. Either way, I thought I was one of them once, but I guess I'm not. I'm not really sure what changed. Declining stimulation from video games and the general anhedonia that followed, was probably the turning point, I think. I wish I could just go back to feeling that way and have hoped I'll just wake up better one day, but since my discomfort in this regard has only seemed to deepen in these passing years, I doubt I ever will.

>Do you have any online (friends/)contacts which you occasionally talk to?

Nope. Never. I've also never entered any sort of chat rooms, or anything similar to them, because openly messaging people in real-time like in an exposed environment like that would be far too anxiety inducing. Overall, such places are way too social for me and, not to mention, I have nothing to say, anyway. Being honest, I'm also not really one for message boards or forums either. I only use them because I'm desperate and have a very tangential history with them in general and have no real "good" or "fun" times to speak of while using them. I've always feltPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


c8713c  No.7302

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>>7301

(cont)

>have you considered killing yourself because of that, to escape this damned cycle?

Boy, have I. Not a day goes by where I don't think of it at least once. I'm very deeply embedded in suicidal ideation and all my most common everyday fantasies are suicide related. I'm too cowardly too kill myself however, as much as I want to, so I'm left just impatiently waiting to somehow die unexpectedly for now. Definitively speaking, I don't want anything out of life. Not friends, not love, nor anything else. I might dream about such things, but I know better than to be foolish enough to wish for them to appear in some form in the aggressive, cesspit of the real world. It's all futile, rotten and of no value and I'd rather just fade back into non-existence.

>Even if I had the perfect live, I probably still would feel dissatisfied… There's just no fun in the world like in fiction.

Exactly. I'd much rather just be rid of it all for good. No matter the circumstance, the world is a deeply hollow & disappointing place that's simply not worth getting invested in. People are ugly, selfish letdowns that will always leave you unfulfilled and vice versa to them. Anything else always leads to dead ends & boredom. My dreams are my only consolation, but even that itself is worthless. Eventually even those dreams would become stale & unwelcoming. I suffer in the absence of poisonous things that aren't worth having, in a wretchedly dull world that isn't worth living on. And it's all quite a predicament, really.

>and at a later point even "hidden gems" my seem boring due to you knowing of a similar scenario already.

I wish I played more "hidden gems", since, in my case, I usually enjoy them. I finished Arx Fatalis for the first time a number of days ago and had a bit of fun with it, as an example. It's just so hard to find the motivation to sit down & play something. Feels like all I can do, or wantPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


2abd40  No.7362

>>7301

>>7302

Your post made me tear up, it was very well written. It's probably because I can heavily relate to a lot of your thoughts.




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ecfa99  No.3123[Reply]

I met a guy a month ago playing Fortnite. At first I thought he'd just be another guy I'd play with sometimes, nothing more. But then he started to try to get to know me and shared some of his personal life to me, like his health issues, religious and political views, etc, things that "friends" would begin to share, I suppose. But he came off as clingy, as he showed me this MMO he was trying to get more friends to play with. I told him it looks interesting and that I might buy it in a week and then he went off and gifted it to me.

It was a nice gesture but now I was obligated to play it with him. And I already started feeling obligated to hang out with the guy with him telling me of his failing liver, and other personal shit. I just don't want any of that. I don't have any friends IRL, and the "friends" I do have online I'd like to keep as just "people I play with", nothing more.

But shit, I've decided to delete my account and move one once again. I don't have the heart to just delete people so I often create new accounts and start fresh again. Maybe this time I can be really cautious about the people I add. I'm glad I have the ability to "start again" infinitely online. No wonder people are miserable IRL with friends and the "complexity" of their relationships.

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ec04da  No.7042

>>3123

I know what you mean, most "friends" are like that, almost like having a piece of bubblegum on the soles your shoes.

There are though some good, old friends though I really value a lot. That doens't mean that I'm going to spend every 2nd day with them either. Most of the time I check my phone just for the relaxing reassurement that no one wants something of me. There's nothing worse than the feeling that someone wants something of me today. It's like I can't lose myself in anything I put my mind because I always know that I either potentially have to get ready to go outside or at least the hassle of cancelling a meetup.


6828e5  No.7043

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I can't stand being alone, but I also can't stand other people. There are exceptions, I mostly just hate normalfags, but I will never meet people that I like (well, people that are as horrible as I am, in similar ways, and pretty fucked up in the head, I suppose), and I fear human interaction even online if it's not impersonal. Even when I had the chance to befriend people that I talked to anonymously, I wasted every chance because I don't want to end up being hurt or hurting someone else. As long as I lie to myself that I like being alone, it's possible to avoid feeling unbearably bad, so that's what I do.


b046e6  No.7347

>>3836

same. I only use IRC and Mumble to communicate with anyone.


f91f34  No.7355

I've completely given up on the concept of friends at this point. I find people insufferable and I can't deal with their shit, online or offline. I tried the discord meme but it wasn't worth it and social media is horrible so I deleted all of my accounts there. I did have a friend online that I was in contact with for a longer time but I was tired of hearing of his own problems and it just felt like a massive drag that I had to deal with, so I just moved on. I also can't stand normalfags.


b3601b  No.7361

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>>3123

this resonates with me on a deep level.

i'm happy i'm not the only one with these sorts of feelings, i feel so restrained and suffocated by people after a point, even if they mean well and i truly do like them.




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eaae21  No.7312[Reply]

What was your life like before you became a hikikomori /hikki/?

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d169c2  No.7332

>>7331

(cont)

I'm post #7080 & #7111 from the below thread, by the way. That provides a bit more detail on my situation, such as it is.

https://8ch.net/hikki/res/5370.html

I'd still maintain the claim that I never "really" had any friends, frankly. My formerly alive cat & my mother are still the only two people I've ever known whom I could feel 100% completely comfortable and at ease with. There was such a palpable distance & discomfort to all of my encounters with others beyond my immediate family that to call them friends is a bit of a stretch. It also all happened pre-Grade 6 and, since that point, beyond some rare & very brief moments during Grade 8/9, I've remained completely isolated & alone. I also may as well have dropped out of everything after the first semester of Grade 9, since, while I still attended school to some extent during the second, the writing was already on the wall of how things were going to play out. Still never had any online friends and, at this point, I doubt I ever will. I also have a fairly good relationship with my father, even in despite of him being such a rotten bastard in the past. Age has mostly pacified him in a sense, and thus, he's a lot more personable & understanding than he used to be. I am worried that might turn in the years to come, since the prospect of dementia for him is quite likely and is something he's already showing a few signs of.


83736b  No.7348

>>7330

>This is it, I think—the source of every hikki's problems. Even in kindergarten it's been like this for me too. I remember entering the classroom on the first day of kindergarten and seeing everyone sprawled across the floor, playing. I had a desperate urge to join them, but each time I would tried, I would just stand there at the edge, paralyzed. It felt like I was choking on something invisible, stuck in my throat. It wasn't something that could be struggled against with effort—it felt like there was something absolute and final that forbade the struggle itself, as if there was some cosmic moral law I would violate by doing so.

You've described it perfectly.

Everytime I'm in a similar situation it's just an echo of when I was a kid, that same invisible wall.


1a5e81  No.7356

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>>7312

It was pretty awful. It's better now in many ways, since I don't have to interact with the world much, but I still don't like it, and I have never quite recovered from my past. I don't think that ever goes away, so I don't feel exactly better than before. Most of the time, I can ignore that being alone is terrible, but it's still bad. Still, I have never liked the people that were available, so it's better that way. My family has always been pretty fucked up, though none of them realize it. I think there are a lot of mental issues here, that everyone has inherited from one side of the family in particular, but it doesn't seem to manifest consistently. Everyone is crazy in a different way. Not that this is all that uncommon today.

Considering that I have always barely been able to tolerate life and other people, ending up like this was kinda inevitable. Even before I knew anything about hikikomori, or had an understanding of other people in general, all of my plans and goals in life involved isolation. I wanted to be a programmer since my early teens because I thought that it would be a good way to avoid other people. I always wanted to hoard a lot of money so I wouldn't have to leave the house again. My obsession with efficiency probably comes from not being able to deal with people, live in society, and rely on others.

Of course, all of my plans failed completely. I dropped out of college after just two or three months. High school was pretty tolerable. Some people tormented me even then, early on, but after beating some of them up, it just stopped entirely. And it was really easy as well. I learned a lot of things on my own back then, and my intelligence developed very quickly at that point, so my grades got a lot better. If I didn't want to do something, then I just didn't do it, and there was nothing to worry about, because my grades made up for all of that. And I wasn't completely alone, because I had a reject or two that talked to me for some reason. I never made any friends myself in my entire life, but that just kinda happened. People that didn't have anyone to talk to just naturally talked to me.

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1a5e81  No.7357

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>>7356

The difference is that my family is shit, and talking about my family history would require another post or two. Just mentioning dropping out was enough for things to be even worse at home. It basically lead to violence, or it would have if I didn't dodge everything without countering. My only choice at that point was to pretend to still be going to college. I did that for the rest of the year, and then tried accounting (because again, people said that being an accountant doesn't require being social), and failed again for similar reasons, but it was even worse. It lasted longer, and my grades were absolutely phenomenal, but horrible teachers, stupid school shit and being around other people eventually got to me again, so that wasn't enough, even though I was the best student there, as far as tests and practical stuff go. Teachers don't care at all about actually teaching, and about your actual knowledge. They just want you to jump through hoops for no reason so they can feel like their fake jobs are important somehow. The better teachers actually liked me quite a bit, though, because I actually cared, unlike everyone else. But if I knew that the bad ones were trying to waste my time, I refused to do what they wanted me to do, and I barely even showed up for their classes.

Since I couldn't stay home, I was just reading books, playing games on my laptop, watching anime and sleeping, in not so nice parts of the city, but it was quiet, and I wasn't afraid. I had a bowie knife with me at all times, that I wasn't reluctant to use since I had nothing to lose, so it wasn't really a problem. I guess it was a good mindset for someone that was expecting to eventually end up homeless. After a long while, they found out (someone that they know saw me) and I was allowed to drop out, and now I have been a hikikomori for quite a few years. A little while after dropping out (maybe a year after that), I decided to go to a therapist and get diagnosed so they would leave me alone. I knew that I was pretty autistic already, but my family is way too dumb to see the obvious, so they never even noticed that I wasn't normal and couldn't communicate and understand other people (I only learned how to do those things in my early twenties, thanks to the internet, so now I underPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


72e746  No.7360

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I was always reclusive as I could not connect deeply with any clique.

i can talk to and generally get along with anyone from any background but i can never truly feel at home or "one of and the same as" any particular circle. i am both too autistic and not autistic enough. i prefer to stay to myself and even find making online friends tedious and generally not worth it as these days your life can be made complicated just as easily online as offline.




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542c9c  No.5282[Reply]

Well it's coming to up to that time of year where I will wake up in a pool of sweat every morning and have asshole neighbors blasting their horrid music while they get drunk.

What time of year do you dislike the most hikkis? for me it's definitely summer with the armies of bugs that will invade my house the sleepless nights due to the heat and the idiots who go into overdrive as soon as it gets hotter.

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bc0b76  No.7084

I hate summer. I don't like all the grass leering at me from outside. "look at hiki he still has to forage for food, while we just sit around and pickup tasty rays", the blades of grass whisper. Dam those organisms. While they sit and do what as I and they, their rich glowing straws are warm in the sun. They aren't running down in need of hunting.

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5e9c91  No.7097

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Summer. I fear that my dog might not make it through this coming one, the last one was almost too much for him. He's so old already and my companion for 10 years now.


efc1a7  No.7098

The worst time of year has got to be my birthday. I don't want to know I'm yet another year older.


36519b  No.7346

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>>7097

Dammit whya re we alowwed to have pets, only to suffer when the only true friends we ever had die?


2664fa  No.7359

I like the heat of summer which makes time move faster.

Proximal, shrieking, womanly noise is constant year-round from my teenage sisters

They go out during summers so I like that season better than others.

Fall with its crappy holiday TV, or if not TV they always bring Halloween, Christmas and new college students online every fall, and two family gathering holidays in a row.




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587532  No.7351[Reply]

So after failing highschool at 19 i became a hikki. Now 23, i have wasted all those years on games and youtube. There's nowhere to go, and nothing to do or look forward to… I just wake up, eat, get on the internet, sleep. Same cycle every day. I eat only once a day to save my mother money, hoping that she would somehow see me less of a leech that way. I have been diagnosed and prescribed meds for OCD at 15, which i took initially but ultimately abandoned treatment. Also i am fairly certain i have social anxiety too. Despite learning about OCD, i just can't seem to tell with certainty that i have it. Gone to psychiatrists twice, they were of no help. Each just sat there eyeballing me, expecting me to tell them everything without screening. Social anxiety kicks in, i forget what i wanted to say, and by the end of it i doubt his opinion and competence. So, i have been wondering for a year now Do i have OCD or do i not? What should i do? Each day not having reached an answer i carry over the problem to the next day.

I don't… Anyone going through similar situation or is it just me??

99cf81  No.7358

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>>7351

Some similarities here and there. I only have been to one therapist, though. Because of everything that I heard from other people, I already had no respect for doctors when I went to one. Mine is pretty decent, at least, but I can't trust anyone. In my case, I just wrote everything down and talked about what I wrote. Mostly just read it the first time. After that it got a little easier because I got used to it, but I still take notes every time. Whenever you think about something that you feel you have to say, just write it in a text file and save it for later.

My first visit was specifically just to be diagnosed officially so my family would give up on trying to force me to be normal even though I'm clearly incapable of that. I had read and seen enough about autism to be pretty sure that it was my case, so everything I wrote was related to all the 'symptoms' that I found over time. I have almost all of them, so there was little doubt in my mind. The therapist agreed immediately that I am on the spectrum. Still, I'm pretty sure that there are other things going on in my brain that I don't know about, because I feel a little too close to insanity for that to be the only thing going on. OCD might be one of them. I have quite a few obsessive behaviors and ticks and crazy shit, so that wouldn't be surprising, actually. And my anxiety got so out of control that I ended up needing medication to stay alive, even though I wanted to avoid that as much as possible. My brain just can't release the stress well enough on its own, so it was unavoidable. It did help, and it doesn't seem to be bad for me, so it's fine. Might not be strong enough, though. Maybe I need more of it, but it's fine as it is most of the time. It helps me sleep as well, but I still have issues with insomnia. Just not as much as before, because of the reduced anxiety.




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a50e26  No.2045[Reply]

I am reading Scott Adam's Win Bigly book and I chance upon this section:

> Evolution doesn't care if you see the world for what it is. It only cares that you make more of yourself.

I ended up typing this "hypothesis" but I am not sure if you guys would agree or disagree.

"If you twist it around, you could say hikikomori communities produce hikkis anyway despite someone living an isolated lifestyle and even for those who stay offline - the lifestyle would theoretically create a tug of war between people who want more people to socialize so they will "free" the hikikomori or they will look down upon the hikikomori so that they can "judge" the hikikomori among peers (increasing companionship which increases the chance of mating and being seen as successful) or the hikikomori can succeed and the people who know about the hikikomori's success can be influenced to tolerate/communicate/mate/join the hikki thus the isolationist lifestyle actually leads to a more truer and purer social friendship than the friendships and mating rituals developed by the common outside world which has been diluted by social media and walled societies. Just a hypothesis of mine."

I haven't fleshed out the idea that's why I am searching for criticisms or agreements regarding the concept.

As to why it interests me, I sort of wonder if this is a clue to curing the depressed days of a hikki.

That there's some evolutionary purpose to why we chose this lifestyle. That it's not as many feel "an unnatural way of living".

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40c06b  No.2466

>>2461

>i hate his pronounciation

Same here but he does have some good points to be honest.


009ff8  No.2480

>>2460

motivational speech tier


5b16e1  No.2481

>>2460

Judging from the thumbnail, it's some normie garbage. Am I right?


40c06b  No.2495

>>2480

>>2481

Pretty much yeah but like i said he does have some good points.


239990  No.7345

Hikikomori is a distinct psychiatric condition. It's not like it's just another lifestyle. I actually hate the word lifestyle because it's not a lifestyle to be trapped living with someone who passive aggressively sabotages your ability to be successful while simultaneous saying, "Fool, why ain't you successful?" The word lifestyle implies that individuals have some kind of choice inherent in their current situation. Which if your situation sucks and you are mostly trapped, perhaps though no fault of your own, then you know that such a idea as lifestyle is inherently a product of self-righteous narcissism.

>>2045

> Evolution doesn't care if you see the world for what it is. It only cares that you make more of yourself.

Also I think you misunderstood the quota. Evolution is a organic process for adapting to your surroundings so that you can create more of yourself so their progeny can go on to adapt to their surroundings. I'm using surroundings as a short-hand for environment because humans specifically have been masters of the natural environment meaning earthquakes and forest fires, and floods, and things that want to eat us for a very long time. When the past Mega year has probably been gregariously over felon with is the psycho-social environment, meaning that we have been adapting to how to manage relationships with other humans. I'm not trying to make out that relationships are some kind of goal, but Homosapien, relative to Neanderthal-man, perceive the feeling of each-other and their consciousness more than the latter. It's the difference between having a complicated funeral and just throwing away your dead like a broken toy; Homophones and Neanderthal-man respectively. The quota actually means that their are many spices that are very good at procreating and staying alive generation to generation. Having a fancy big brain, such as our selfs, does not inherently make us any better at procreating then any other organism that has survived this long. Just because us humans have fancy big brains that make us better at making nuclear power plants doesn't really matter if, in the human case, women don't want to have sex with people (men) because they are good atPost too long. Click here to view the full text.




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b91a74  No.7340[Reply]

Ive always wanted to be a filmmaker but i recently i dont see a point in doing anything anymore. I dont really desire anything anymore besides not starving or being tortured to death and i basically have those two. i feel like im jus being endlessly entertained with no stop and its so boring and makes me sick and i feel like i have to do something worthwhile.. but i dont have a reason to is what Im saying, say i exercise to stay healthy, eat good, talk to friends, maybe volunteer to help some people (feels kind of masochistic in a way wanting to work but thats beside the point kinda), write a screenplay, even get a gf to fuck everyday, i think id still feel like im missing something in life

088562  No.7341

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>>7340

Your not missing anything. That's just life. There is nothing behind the corner everyone keeps feeling for the edge of; a blind person navigating a hall way. Welcome. There is nothing more than that which is.

Basically: same. You've come to the right place. –This is all we are and all we'll ever be.




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2fb562  No.652[Reply]

do any other hikkis wish you were girls? i do. i wouldn't be a hikki then.

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64d284  No.7314

These types of threads need to be purged before this board is overrun with trannies


ab2636  No.7321

>>7314

You don't need to be a tranny to want to be a girl.


3317dd  No.7327

>>7314

I agree


379a05  No.7337

young female relative is an absolute tyrant. she's probably going to grow up to be a child murderer. she's being raised by a single mother who wildly vacillates between spoiling her and verbally abusing her, but in modern society where telling a girl no is abuse I don't see what else anyone can do.


cdb509  No.7339

>>7337

are you the guy with the fat neice from /b/




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3c650e  No.176[Reply]

I just found this documentary from the early 2000s on YouTube about Japanese hikkis i think the narrator is kind of a dumbass tbh.

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84eb95  No.6926

>>6921

I wonder if the people who recovered really recovered all the way. I'm having a hard time imagining them not bottling up their isolation like the guy who died alone.


4ad441  No.6979

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4ad441  No.7281

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Hikikomori and the Lost Decade


497198  No.7282

Daily Life of 引きこもり

youtube play list all videos

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLADFE6FAE8A91986B


4ad441  No.7333

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HIKIKOMORI, A DEAFENING SILENCE




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533acd  No.2187[Reply]

It's as if the past ten years never really happened. It's like I've just been sleeping - dreaming through life, and now it's all just a hazy, disjointed memory. I can remember things prior to 2007 with near autistic precision, but everything beyond that is just a sparsely populated void. Nothing to remember, because there's been nothing 'worth remembering - nothing except all of the things I'd rather forget.

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8bdd82  No.7286

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It's weird how I can recall some things quite clearly, but, for the most part, the past, my whole past really, is an impenetrable haze filled with nothing worth the mental storage capacity it would take to keep. I'm actually glad it's just a haze, to be honest. Having a photographic memory of all the empty days I've endured & trudged through would, I guess, be rather unpleasant. I'd imagine I also have a lot in common with those in solitary confinement as far as how fragmented the mind & memory end up becoming. It's a bit of a laugh to think on how in all the years I've been a hikikomori, my brother has lived a pretty varied life and has went to many places around the world and done many different things, whereas I've just been sitting here living out my own personal Groundhog Day on repeat (sleeping, sitting around in my underwear & playing video games). It's just funny that he's probably packed in more life in just these past 10 years, then what I've even experienced up till now, or will ever experience going forward. To a lot of people, he'd be the only one they'd consider to be actually alive & living a life, whereas I'd just be seen as merely existing/surviving, eking by as a reclusive ghost. Then again, he'd probably kill himself if he were forced to exist the same way I do. Doubt he'd even last a year, frankly. Maybe there's a unique sense of strength I posses there. I don't know.

I'm just glad I began keeping a list of the various games I finish, or have in backlog, because, otherwise, I wouldn't even remember 90% of it. Looking back over my list, and thinking back on what I was playing at the time, can help me recall my amorphous past a little more easily in some respects. Not only that, but if I don't have a way to remember what I finish, then I can't help, but wonder what the point was in even playing it in the first place. To put it simply, a list stops the experience from crumbling to dust in my mind. Keeping a record gives a little bit of continuity & purpose to it all, at least to me anyway. By contrast, I don't keep a list of the films I've watched, mostly because I watch so few which, in its own way, makes it easier to remember what I've watched. I'm sure I've forgotten a ton though, which is depressing and makes me wish I had started a film list of some kind.

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072338  No.7300

I never even bother trying to remember anything. What is the point.


c30806  No.7303

>>6994

What is the tracking software you're using?


465fae  No.7316

>>7286

>neurogenesis is dependent on new experiences and that maintaining the mind's overall neuroplasticity leads to greater cognitive ability. Couldn't help, but laugh since, naturally, sitting around in the same sterile, unchanging environment for, in my case, 12 years, would have essentially the reverse effect.

Changing your environment and having new experiences in the context of neuroplasticity doesn't imply necessary leaving your room. A chess player can go from being a beginner to being very good without ever leaving his room once, but his brain would've gone through a lot of strain and plasticity in the process.

>>7300

>I never even bother trying to remember anything. What is the point.

There are many reasons to bother. The two post above mention two:

> if I don't have a way to remember what I finish, then I can't help, but wonder what the point was in even playing it in the first place. To put it simply, a list stops the experience from crumbling to dust in my mind. Keeping a record gives a little bit of continuity & purpose to it all, at least to me anyway.

>to avoid the uncomfortable situation of being very old and not knowing what happened in my past

I can give you another. Apparently human beings are very bad at remembering their past accurately, and their memories seem to usually be distorted in the act of remembering to reflect the bias of their present self, rather than what actually happen. If you keep track of what you do your future self would have a harder time trying to distort the past which can be beneficial.

>>7303

>What is the tracking software you're using?

timewarrior. I used manictime for some time but timewarrior fits my interests much better. I also use websites Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


208bd9  No.7325

>>7316

>Changing your environment and having new experiences in the context of neuroplasticity doesn't imply necessary leaving your room. A chess player can go from being a beginner to being very good without ever leaving his room once, but his brain would've gone through a lot of strain and plasticity in the process.

Yes, you're right, of course. The problem more lies with me, if anything. I have no desire to learn or do anything which is the bigger reason why my brain is a rotten lump and not so much as a result of the isolation, even though it has compounded it in my case. Either way, having or developing a sharp & keen mind certainly isn't dependent on going outside or interacting with others. It can help I guess, but it's not required, like you say.




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d4dfa8  No.343[Reply]

What video games do you play /hikki/??.

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32ce39  No.7177

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i quit videogames when i left a gaming discord like a year ago and havent played anything since because without anyone forcing me into it i simply have no motivation to play. my daily routine is slowly becoming mind numbing stale and i really want to get back into videogames but im not sure where to start. i was thinking maybe an mmo because the level up grind is enough to motivate me to continue playing. what kind of mmos are good right now? i played wow and trying to decide between private vanilla server or retail, or maybe a totally different mmo altogether, like maybe elder scrolls online. anyone here play any mmos or should i look into other games like the witcher series? im also open to broading my horizon with types of games i never played so far, like visual novels or hidden gems.


8ce1b3  No.7185

>>7177

i've played alot of wow private servers. there are a few good ones out right now, but none of them are "fresh". Which basically just means the servers have been out for a while and the populations have dwindled down. The most popular one you can play right now is netherwing TBC. Blizzard will release classic this summer, which will be a huge event.

I'd recommend playing single player RPGs until offical wow classic comes out. Divinity Original Sin 2, Witcher 3, Kingdom Come Deliverance. these are just three RPGs that have came out recently that are a blast to play and easily pirated.


53c9bc  No.7204

>>7177

I'm currently playing on the most popular WoW vanilla private server Northdale and have been since its release.

It's really fun and sort of brings some structure to my hikkineet life as it forces me to have kind of normal schedule to raid twice a week.


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Man, I just want an FPS that captured my interest like when I was 12 with CoD and I could play for 15+hrs straight a day. I'm on PC and I've tried Siege, Pubg, CoD, Destiny 2, Quake, tf2, Fortnite and still nothing captures my interest. Siege comes the closest but I can only play for like 8hrs a day before I get frustrated. I remember the good times I had in old cod, playing SnD for hours on end, grinding out levels/prestige. God, I wish I could just re-create those times, when grind was fun as hell. I think the only game I haven't tried on PC for FPS games is CS:GO. Guess I'll be trying that.


5c653d  No.7311

BO here if anyone is interested in playing this game i found called Vikings War Of Clans here is the link.

https://plarium.com/




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