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ccf87a No.86[Reply]

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ccf87a No.3643

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3bca89 No.1895[Reply]

Let's start with Lain.

>existentialist themes

>post-modern themes

>alienation themes

>cyberpunk themes

Plot:

>girl falls into the internet

>meets the God of the internet

>questions God

>questions ontology

>questions Epistemology/what is true vs what is believed

>questions wheter if enough people believe something it can become true

>questions [spoiler] how a God who used to be human could have become a God unless he was created by someone higher.

>realizes she made him and is actually the real God of the internet

>deletes herself from existence for the better good, so she won't be tempted to meddle with and harm a lesser species.

[/spoiler]

How would you classify Serial Experiments in Lain? Are there any other good anime for thinkers?

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64800e No.5463

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>>4803

>relevant in Lain since the creator hoped Americans and Japanese would come to seperate conclusions about it's the meaning behind Lain. The 2 cultures we're supposed to be turning american culture on l values but it didnt work apparently.

Apparently Lain wasn't deep enough to lend itself to very different interpretations. I don't see much Americans could interpret differently. Japs seem to understand Rosswell and alien phenomenon with about the same familiarity as Americans.


7d8d4f No.5466

To Love-る is pretty deep. It deals with the psychological struggles of a young maiden from a world far different from ours, whose powerful parents expect very much from her. She is young and wants to do as she likes, but needs to consider what is within the bounds of her parents' acceptance and what is within the bounds of reality itself. This is contrasted with the struggles of a fairly normal young man who has a knack for getting himself into Freudian trouble, when he mistakenly proposes to her. It examines the difficulties of cross-cultural relationships, human inadequacy, and future planning. Some Mormon themes are evident, though they are more cultural than religious. And to top it all off, the young man has a separate love interest of his own. It's quite thrilling! I watched the anime and then read the entire manga in about a week.


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I don't mean to revive a dead thread, but seriously, a 2 year old philosophical anime thread, and no mention of Legend of the Galactic Heroes? The entire series is Philosophy of History and Political Philosophy: The Anime.


f37502 No.6011

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Paranoia Agent is my all time favorite anime. Really zeroes into existentialism in Modern Japan

I haven't watched Lain but I really ought to. I've been wanting to enjoy some more manga/anime but I havent made the time with classes.


dec204 No.6059

>>6011

Try Paprika, Now and Then Here and There, Monster, and Homunculus.




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17f3df No.5993[Reply]

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Most Indian Gym don't allow opposite sex interaction.

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000000 No.6022

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Good luck with sex stalk!


699e2f No.6057

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>>5993

Is this pasta? A bot? Are pajeets this retarded?




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8ee877 No.545[Reply]

Your favorite 3 philosophers in order

1. Socrates
2. Nietzsche
3. Plato

pic related, that's Friedrich himself.
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aa0963 No.5972

>>5971

National-Socialism?


b459f1 No.5995

1. Krishna (i.e. the Chad manifestation of God)

2. Nietzsche

3. Heidegger


8f2719 No.6004

>>5970

You can be a politician and a philosopher, but being a politician does not make you a philosopher.

>>5972

And from which philosophical tradition does National Socialism come?


39cde5 No.6054

1. You

2. Alan Watts

3. Me


ea8189 No.6056

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>>6004

>And from which philosophical tradition does National Socialism come?

From which philosophical tradition did Thales of Miletus borrow his ideas?




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087bb6 No.5841[Reply]

is wrestling gay since it's a bunch of sweaty shirtless dudes hugging eachother?

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9f41ae No.5848

The range of what is and isn't acceptable as far as male interactions go has become very small today. Look at early photographs and you'll find that dudes touching each other wasn't considered homoerotic back then.


91d06f No.5854

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>>5848

Not directly philosophy related, but I've been thinking about this topic a lot recently. My main bets are on the Sexual Revolution, among with other reductive lines of thinking from the 20th century which have implied that free will does not exist and we are only chemical reactions.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/how-the-sexual-revolution-ruined-friendship


c5d6e1 No.5868

only if they become erect while doing so

if you become erect while they wrestle you are at least a little gay, but that dosnt make wrestling gay


46ed11 No.6049

Yes, and this makes both Abraham and Gilgamesh gay.


6d10d5 No.6055

>>5844

Correct. You can suck tranny dick and still be straight, as long as balls don't touch.




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50465f No.5981[Reply]

I’m trying to learn about Platonism. I started a list of major Platonic philosophers and their works, but it feels short. Could you guys recommend any other texts to help me with this?

>Plato - complete works

>Plotinus - The Enneads

>Proclus - The Theology of Plato

>Damascius - Difficulties and Solutions of First Principles

That’s about it. There must be more. I’m also looking into Pseudo-Dionysius and John Scotus Eriugena, but I’m more interested in pre-christian platonists

a2b83e No.6046

Plato - Complete Works

Aristotle - I'd go with the Complete Works but you have to read at least Metaphysics: it's full of references to the unwritten doctrines. He's also very useful to have an insight on the early Academy (Xenocrates, Speusippus, etc.). Moreover, some modern scholars consider him a Platonic philosopher.

Plutarch - Moralia. Essential readings are delphic dialogues (De Defectu Oraculorum, De E apud Delphos, De Pythiae Oraculis); On Isis and Osiris, On the Delay of Divine Vengeance, The Daemon of Socrates, On the Face of the Moon.

Plotinus - Enneads

Porphyry - Auxiliaries to the Perception on the Intelligibles nature (i.e. Sententiae: this is an essential text), On the Cave of the Nymphs and other things if you can put your hands on them.

Iamblichus - De Mysteriis, Pythagoric Life, and if you really feel like it the Theology of Arithmetic.

Proclus - The Theology of Plato, Commentary the Timaeus

Damascius - Difficulties and Solutions of First Principles

You can surely add something else by both Proclus and Damascius, but I don't know them as well as the others (I have reached the Iamblichus level of the list, more or less).

After that you can go with Augustine and Pletho, and after with with Italian Neoplatonists such as Ficino and (partly and if you are very interested in magic) Giordano Bruno.

At that point you should be ready to reach union with the One.


a2b83e No.6048

>>6046

Sorry, forgot another essential Plutarch that really helped me to understand the relation between matter and the Forms: De Animae Procreatione in Timaeo


3b3c9c No.6052

Just study mathematics. Everything else is just mental clutter.




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5b2491 No.6043[Reply]

Why aren't you and your friends >implying all living in friendship mansion yet?

000000 No.6050

Caves is better.


000000 No.6051

Derp.

Board rebuild postan!




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8f5a42 No.5816[Reply]

Why is the majority of modern philosophy so awful? I feel like this started around the 1700's, with madmen like Marquis de Sade being touted around as "philosophers". It only got worse in the 1800's with philosophers like Marx coming about and basing their entire ideals on scientific theories (i.e. primitive communism) which were since superseded.

In the modern era philosophy seems to be mostly centred on the self; reality doesn't exist, don't care about others, happiness is the only thing that truly matters, etc. If it's not on the self, it's on the culture or the people, as with Marxist philosophies.

Why does it have to be this way?

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2d3468 No.5946

>>5816

>Why is the majority of modern philosophy so awful?

Because you don't know anything lmao


956383 No.5955

>>5816

No it's not


db4022 No.5960

>>5816

when they ditched metaphysics shit got real


b76e6f No.5963

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>>5816

> Read history as well as philosophy so you know who the "philosophers" were and what their goals were rather than just reading about one mans life at a time. Many were Illuminati/Freemason so they all have a general philosophy that they based their texts on, which is why socialism, communism, fascism, and atheism became such an undercurrent with "modern" philosophy. Descartes whole goal was to attack the pope and Christianity, he started the Illuminati.


7288dd No.6045

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>>5816

>idk

KEEP PUSHING ON




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2f6e51 No.6012[Reply]

I want to get into Carl Jung lads. Where do I begin?

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47b52f No.6031

>>6028

Basically.

Anything Jung, Freud or any of them ever said that was correct is swallowed in a sea of lies and deterministic pseudo science.


47b52f No.6033

>>6026

Also archetypes are just Jung's attempt to bastardize general concepts into mythology, he did the whole thing through his career because he was originally going to push psychoanalysis but once his daddy Freud was discredited he combined psychoanalcyst with mysticism and repackaged it to morons so he could bank in the cash.

Fuck Freud, Jung and any retards who buy their bullshit.


2f6e51 No.6036

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>>6033

Wacky tobaccy magic? I always considered that as more of an anthropology thing. The archetypes, you know.


267902 No.6042

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>>6012

Red Book. Some general texts on Gnosticism(s). The Wotan Myth. Or his Zarathustra lectures (then read Nietzche's.)

>>6033

>Also archetypes are just Jung's attempt to bastardize general concepts into mythology

The brainlet is strong itt. Imagining a Europe where Catharism supercedes the Protestant Reformation, and native European cosmologies are less reified and coopted as we see with Catholic syncreticsm through the alchemical/hermetic metaphor.

>bare minimum, intellectual history significant in phenomenology's rise in Germany/Europe through late 19th through 20th century


4c7b0c No.6053

>>6042

>brainlet

Severe projection. Go back.




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e186b3 No.5998[Reply]

Excuses for browsing /philosophy/ and not looking like pic related go in here.

“No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.”

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600870 No.6016

>>6010

Why fuck your gf when I can fuck her better?


7ab78b No.6019

>Lifestylism


63e2b4 No.6038

(checked)

>>5999


1e8b79 No.6039

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>>6010

this


4a7d39 No.6041

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Literature and the martial arts both.




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b48dc4 No.5555[Reply]

What do you guys think of Jordan Peterson? The conservative who goes on about myths and the unknowability of truth while trying to blue pill the world.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2017/03/23/peterson-vs-harris-again/amp/

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d30f26 No.6023

>>5704

>you spelled someone's name wrong and disagree with my Lord and Savior! you must be a reddit SJW tumblr cuck BAAAAAAAWWWWWW

>academic marxists who had to bullshit after the discovery of the Gulags

USSR had a progressive prison system;

https://espressostalinist.com/the-real-stalin-series/gulag/

lol you're welcome, fag.

>>5726

>personal anecdotal evidence is not an argument

>What I think of him personally

>personally

Can you not read?

>>5806

>he has some good rebukes of cultural marxism

'muh kultural markerism' is a shit meme nazifags made up that replaced Hitler's "cultural bolshevism" garbage. Nazifags knew if they called it what they really thought, "cultural judaism" they would stop getting support from neocons.


c3c09a No.6029

>>6023

>this ideology which killed millions of people is bad

>my ideology which killed millions of people is better

I'm sure Nazis have nice things to say about Germany too. I mean, look at those animal welfare and environmental regulations.


fb2aa0 No.6037

>>6013

im sure you have really well reasoned arguments for all of these things you're saying


b00af3 No.6044

>>5638

>lol

It's tertiary insights for the moral/spiritual/physical bottom feeders in this end times of post-historical/capitalist/moder/whatever degeneracy.

>>6009

>He knows pretty much nothing about post-modernist philosophy, yet he insists on critiquing it.

Sokal Hoax is sufficient.

>>6009

>He's not a philosopher. neither is Sam Harris

They're on (((the same))) team


f11504 No.6058

>>5621

Is that sargon of akkad?




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6f2402 No.6030[Reply]

Describe this iconic Disney character

874ba1 No.6032

Literally who.


000000 No.6040

One too many dimensions, and not enough boobage.




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95aec6 No.5819[Reply]

What's /philosophy/'s opinion on stoicism? Is it good the way it is, or is it bad?

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5e566a No.6005

>>5819

made up by fags that did not want to interact with the real world


a67388 No.6014

>>5985

Shitting in the streets isn't "praxis", you little niglet. Next time off yourself before posting.


c5eca5 No.6020

>>5991

>Everywhere I see Stoicism is around

>Guys can you stop it's getting annoying

>No lol just get over it


50121e No.6025

>>6020

>Allowing yourself to get upset because you choose to

How's that lack of self-control working out for you?


c5eca5 No.6034

>>6025

Pretty good tbh.




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536aed No.5913[Reply]

I want to introduce my 7 year old niece to philosophical thought while her mind is still malleable. She is very bright and extremely thoughtful for her age, and I want to cultivate her intellectual side and develop her critical thinking skills before public school turns her into another drooling drone.

How would I go about doing this?

Surely there are entry-level philosophical conundrums I could ease her into.

Please give suggestions.

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8057e3 No.5976

>>5936

>Children, especially potentially smart ones are just smaller and stupider versions of adults

I wouldn't even necessarily say that children are more or less intelligent (as in, capable of reasoning and understanding) than adults, they are simply less experienced and less knowledgeable. But I agree that you can generally treat children the same way you would treat someone your own age.

Also don't you have to go to school :^)


679c9e No.5982

>>5974

>Sit down shut up method

You don't shut up, you work and learn at the same time.

>I vaguely learned economics

Have you sold out your stocks yet and cashed out on the market and bitcoin yet.

What production do you manage

How much do you make yearly

>>5976

k


65b27b No.5986

Riddles and logic games seem like a great way to begin teaching philosophy -- may I suggest Lewis Carroll's "symbolic logic"[0]? The text itself is a little dense but it can provide context to the puzzles themselves [1] that can be easily found around the net.

And Martin Gardner's puzzles have withstood the test of time. Being young she ought to be great at thinking outside of the box, and being able to solve riddles or puzzles helps set up a feedback loop that rewards critical thinking. There's also collections of logic puzzles intended for children [2].

If you think about it -- murder mysteries can be great teaching tools for deductive logic!

Sophie's World[3] is a children's novel that's also a gentle introduction to many schools of thought. Maybe give that a look.

[0] https://www.gutenberg.org/files/28696/28696-h/28696-h.htm

[1] http://www.math.hawaii.edu/~hile/math100/logice.htm

[2] http://kids.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Printable_Logic_Puzzles_for_Kids

[3] http://people.tamu.edu/~sdaniel/Sophie's%20World%201-184.pdf


245158 No.6015

>>5986

>tripfag

Kill yourself.


64ee1f No.6024

>>5917

Oh man I loved Aesop's Fables as a kid. Good choice.




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540f7b No.6021[Reply]

does such a thing exist? it strikes me as something that would be extraordinarily useful to any amateur looking to dip their foot in philosophy like myself, but the development of philosophy over time isnt something ive seen people make authoritative claims over, outside of the context of some specific narrative. i just want to understand some shit.



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