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Have you read Godel Escher Bach? It's about consciousness rising out of base matter using "strange loops". Formal systems that self reference turn into tangled heirarchies; their self-reference is the beginning stage of consciousness according to Hofstadter.

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Bump for interest and making me think very hard

I wake up dumb and go to sleep smart.

>>90
God I hope I didn't post that in a drugs-haze; I'm going to reply to it.

Have you seen my thread about Hofstadter and "I Am A Strange Loop"? He's done some really interesting thinking on the idea of consciousness itself, reaching to a very far out point. He make some statements that it's really hard not to just knee-jerk away from, but he's got a solid foundation to his mode of thought. "I Am A Strange Loop" is far more accessible than GEB; it's not written like a game, or a puzzle, but a man's simple telling of how he thinks thought works. It's pretty deeply moving in parts; he, at one point, references his dead wife and how that influenced his thoughts about consciousness. Strange loop, indeed.

Entropy.
Equilibriums, and how a stable state isn't necessarily static.
Orbits. They aren't constant; they are not forever.

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That's why I still play the game; it's the laws of thermodynamics given form. The eventual heat-death of the universe, writ in game form.

Any quasi-intellectual bullshit that gives me a temporary sense of superiority.

Anything that distracts me from the fact that I'm not currently having sex.