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Use this for cross-dimension shitposting https://nerv.8ch.net/trek/trekgenrl/1701/strek/streak/startrek/furtrek

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f60f01  No.1614[Reply]

reminder that we're in the hunger games tonight at 8pm EDT

>>>/sudo/44368

if you p'toks aren't cheering, you'll be stripped of bloodwine for the next month

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4e36c6  No.30397

…… p'taQ




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77791a  No.2[Reply]

Accepting banners here

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beb745  No.31041

>>30686

very nice.




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e0dc6d  No.30353[Reply]

Since last one is at bumplimit and we can't have STD staying on top.

Last thread >>28217

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ac8b90  No.31076

>>31056

It was a typical predictable epsiode overall but that point did setup for some interesting things next season I think. I wonder if they will make it a big plot point? Which worries me if they do the whoel VOY-ENT Temperoal Cold War thing and fuck it up


d0d28b  No.31077

>>31074

>Shit, was this the last of the season?

One more next week. From the description it sounds like a direct follow-up to this episode, so they'll probably patch up the timeline and we'll be back to status quo by the end. This is a MacFarlane gig after all.


59dbe1  No.31084

>>31074

>Shit, was this the last of the season? What a shame.

The season finale is for next week. I wonder if they can pull a Mirror episode with this one.


e9ee4e  No.31087

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>>30405

It's not that I didn't think it was funny. I just want to be able to meme the show to normies and I just can't suggest gay porn to my parents for some reason. I dunno. A bridge too far, i guess. All the other Mocclan episodes are obviously their attempt to build a firewall against cancellation. They're trying to build-up goodwill among liberals who will see the show as "too important to cancel" since it's effecitvely memeing gayniggers into pop culture and they're trying to draw a contrast with STD which is going guns a blazin' with yass queen slay but isn't really making much social commentary (or actually getting a chance to reach a mainstream audience). I don't like either of it, but I kinda can appreciate the strategy, i guess. In the meantime, we get a handful of decent episodes and guest appearances (i can't believe they're still getting so many, so often… like ted danson). S2 is not the vast improvement I was hoping for and was a step-down in a lot of ways, but in some ways it did get better - like vfx - and i'll obviously stick with it. I'm still rooting for the show, even though it pisses me off sometimes and I really wish i could just watch a show and enjoy it. I would proably have to quit image boards for that, though.


4ace86  No.31088

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Overall this was a fairly decent episode, for yet another fixing muh broken past relationship hour. Young Kelly was surprisingly sweet, and it was good to see Gordon trying to stop Mercer from doing the exact same mistake twice.

That said, I was hoping that by now the show would have wound down on the "let's do this thing Trek has done before BUT" move and started to do its own thing. Especially the ice trick shouldn't have worked. It's one thing for military-minded aliens to miss a small shuttle hiding in the ice (and then proceeding to blow apart any pieces large enough to hide them), and another for super-advanced AI people to miss a full-on starship hiding on a chunk of ice not all that much larger than itself, then wandering off. The alloys and whatever quantum mojo juice they're using as fuel alone, never mind a still-active artificial gravity field, ought to have given them away.

>>31060

Best part of the episode, right there.




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d9f6bb  No.30945[Reply]

If the federation is such an enlightened utopia why did one of her colonies degrade into a sate where planet wide roaming rape gangs made the rules the moment the replicators started malfunctioning?

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b4980d  No.31058

>>31036

I'm not suggesting that they should just build a single huge, orbital, replicator and print ships out in one piece (that would be about as awesome as it was OP, even if it took a few days to print a ship), you'd think that they could make a ship from replicated pieces though and 'assemble' it more than construct it.

>>31048

Considering that FTL in any form is just a type of time travel … not really.

>>31049

If they've cracked relativity and quantum uncertainty then how is there any problem in the universe that stumps them? That's a level of power that can only be described as 'godlike'.

>>31035

>The Romulans had the right idea

So much this, you also get to save a lot of time and hassle with some of the other systems.

>Excuse me subcommander, but have you thought about the problems we've been having with waste disposal and plumbing on our new design of Warbird?

<Just drop the rubbish and the shit into the engine, we can always use more fuel.


9b8e74  No.31064

>>31058

>>31035

>Literally dump shit into a singularity loo

Could you imagine if they encountered a race of space pajeets? It'd be poo without end!


02b88b  No.31071

>>31048

The black hole isn't massive enough to cause any significant time dilation effects. You only need a tiny black hole, just big enough to keep hawking radiation from shrinking it faster than you can dump matter into it. IIRC, you only need like 500,000 metric tons of matter to make the black hole. That's the amount of soybeans china processes into oil every day. It would have a Schwarzchild radius of something like an attometer. That's a like a billionth of a nanometer or something. Tiny tiny black hole. I could google all this, but I don't wanna.


6520b9  No.31082

>>31058

>Considering that FTL in any form is just a type of time travel … not really.

In TOS they did time travel pretty much at will. Which raises quite a lot of questions. Starfleet might have regulations against too much fuckery with the time line, but how about everyone else? You'd think every instant would be saturated with First Contact style pre-emptive strikes.


b4980d  No.31086

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>>31082

Well, the type of time travel you'd get from going FTL is forwards only (as far as we're aware at the moment nothing can send you back in time) so that might account for it.

>TFW there's a few thousand rowdy Klingons from their first warp speed test due to break out into the 29th century ready to deliver some ancient tech and very confused violence.




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b243e9  No.30617[Reply]

IT'S DEFCON LEVEL FUN!

Looks like we hit the bump limit, so I'll bite the bullet and invite the shitposting to continue here.

Previous threads for the masochists:

>>29040

>>20468

>>18500

>>8287

>Season 2 Status Report:

Starfleet sends the USS Fidget Spinner to investigate seven mysterious red energy bursts and a creature called the red angel. These phenomena are somehow connected to Spock, but he's in the space nuthouse so nobody can ask him. Also, everyone is sad. Michael is sad about Spock and later she's sad about practically fucking everything. Stamets is sad that his boyfriend died, but then he comes back to life, but that doesn't work out so he's sad about that too. Dr. Culber is sad that he came back to life, then he gets angry about it, then he gets sad again. Tyler is sad that he can't be with either of his stronk wimmens (the Klingorc emperor and Michael) and he's sad about having to send his newborn son to Klingon Tibet. Pike is sad that he keeps getting cucked at every turn and that nobody takes him seriously. Tilly is sad because her imaginary spore parasite friend had to go away. The only person who's not sad is Saru who uncovered an evolutionary lie about his entire species and turned into a Chad overnight (but not really).

As the investigation goes on the ship encounters a giant space brain which uses its last moments of life to download all of its memories into Discovery's computer. Meanwhile, Spock escapes the loony bin and Michael has some Family Drama (TM) with Sarek and Amanda, then goes off to find Spock on her own. She takes him to Talos IV where the Talosians fix his mind, but not his autism. He explains that he met the red angel and it shPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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9f41c4  No.31078

>>31039

There was a DS9 episode too where they got an undetonated torpedo into the Defiant, I don't remember how it was called but it was basically influenced by a submarine fight. Quark and some alien ambassador of the week disable it.


207487  No.31079

No one besides me cared, but the only thing I am "glad" about is them remembering the Discovery actually has a CMO who isn't the gay guy. Mind you, it took them about 10 episodes, but this is a Alex Kurtzman lead show we're talking about here.

>>31046

>Mikey leads Discovery through the time wormhole thing to 900 years in the future (we don't see them arrive there) while Georgiou kills Leland in the spore drive cage. The whole point of taking Discovery to the future was to hide the sphere data from Leland, so I'm not fucking sure why they bothered going through with it if they killed him in the first place?

my question is why did no one think to use magnets to neutralise Leland when apparently it was pretty easy to do? And you raise a fair point, why did the Discovery have to fuck off if Leland AI was killed? It feels like these two storylines (the Red Angel and the rouge AI) were different ideas that someone meshed together but didn't think it should also make sense. Right now, I still have no idea how these two stories relate to one another.

I guess at least we saw nuSpock 2.0 shave his dumb beard.


628f70  No.31080

The suit is ready. Burnham and Spock then have a long, emotional goodbye in the shuttle bay, while it's clear that every second they delay, people are dying. How very logical.


c78727  No.31083

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>>31079

>I guess at least we saw nuSpock 2.0 shave his dumb beard.

He somehow manages to look worse without it.

The medical officer is Dr. Pollard according to memory alpha (where this show doesn't belong), but she's not identified as the chief. I guess that makes sense considering in addition to a CMO the ship also seems to lack a chief engineer.

I liked how even in the heat of battle when Pike told her to do her best despite the lack of resources she still found time to offer some backchat like "No, now's when I'm going to slack off" or some shit. Or Janet Reno telling Saru to get off her ass after being ORDERED by a SUPERIOR OFFICER to hustle up.


207487  No.31085

>>31083

>The medical officer is Dr. Pollard according to memory alpha (where this show doesn't belong), but she's not identified as the chief. I guess that makes sense considering in addition to a CMO the ship also seems to lack a chief engineer.

I could've sworn the black lady was the CMO. That just confuses me more. Did Alex Kurtzman not know (yes) that Trek shows typically have a CMO (yes) as part of the main cast (yes)? And that he actually has an important role on the ship (yes)?




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13e565  No.30878[Reply]

Fuck you O'brien

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f00992  No.30972

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764dfa  No.30977

>>30972

That scene was actually quite sweet. I thought they were trying to revive the Kirk-Bones-friendship here, despite O'Brien being a vastly different character than Kirk it kinda plays off similarily. Scenes like that have helped me to get through the first two really boring seasons.


a56c0d  No.30984

>>30977

They are both good actors. Supposedly they were bros off set as well.


6c6787  No.30991

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Originally drawn for a thread over on /co/ a while back. Don't remember whether or not I ever posted it here.


d7df5d  No.31081

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>>30991

It's been posted before, but it's a nice image.




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702bd5  No.30012[Reply]

"Ever since I was a little kid, I wanted to join a gym and get /fit/!"

Welcome to the Swoleverse anons, I presume you are already acquainted with great gains?

Here is a recap.

https://readcomicsonline.me/star-trek-tng-mirror-broken

https://readcomicsonline.me/star-trek-the-next-generation-through-the-mirror

https://jkwoodwardart.blogspot.com/

Apparently there are is more Swole out there, including a Jelico comic. Be wary of the Soyverse though, as it tries to seep the Swole away.

Last Thread: >>12568

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54d2d1  No.30483

>>30480

It was more that Cal Arts strikes again.


76998d  No.30488

>>30483

they changed it that much? I just remember the few issues I saw didn't have the trademark traced heads weirdly placed on drawn bodies


d5f65d  No.30514

>>30488

They changed to the horrid tumblr eyesore style that everyone draws these days.


913cbd  No.30712

So if J.K.Woodward does swole, what other stuff of note has he done? Where can I read it?


ae1ed7  No.31075

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>>30488

They made everyone much less swole. Also the writing sucked.




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eecc3c  No.30327[Reply]

Congratualtions! I have the feeling he will outlive Picard simply to prove he's the greatest Captain.

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366806  No.30620

>>30611

John Flynt lives in constant terror of Mac Tonight.


000000  No.30621

>>30603

Well fuck. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

I don't trust his math (not that he didn't just pull those numbers out of his ass) and he completely dismisses the necessary engineering (not that he has any knowledge of the subject to begin with), but what he says is basically correct. Of course, it's about like saying "fusion bombs work by mashing hydrogen together to make helium" and then attacking anybody making hydrogen on an industrial scale. The premise is factual, but the application is stupid.

Rick Robinson's First Law: An object impacting at 3 km/sec delivers kinetic energy equal to its mass in TNT. Consider the terminal velocity of a rock falling out of orbit. Then figure out how big of a rock you'd need to match the yield of a conventional nuclear weapon. Add a margin of error to compensate for ablatement during reentry. Build a mass driver on the dark side of the moon, facing roughly retrograde. Launch rocks on a return trajectory to earth. Include some form of active guidance for mid course correction and re-entry control. Drop rocks on your enemies your enemies with kinetic energy best measured in kiloton-TNT equivalents.


a61df7  No.30624

>>30621

Well like you I can't be assed to look up the math, but his whole "complaint" is retarded; firstly, no state has broadly recognized "ownership" of any part of the moon, so the moon (like everything else) effectively belongs to whoever has the will and capability of claiming and defending it (which is no one for the foreseeable future), so there's really no civil authority who can control what a company could do there except at where they would be launching from earth.

Secondly, any "company" with the will and capability to deploy hard military powers like shooting down satellites or releasing orbital kinetic impactors is a de-facto state actor in itself, so the idea of "legislating" what a corporation like that is "allowed" to do is nonsense (they have access to nuclear weaponry equivalents and are going to listen to what congress cucks want if they're not in agreement? Not likely).

Thirdly, big business already gets basically everything it wants out of every western government anyway (aside from small quibbles, but realistically trustbusting and laws constraining international capital and the financial sector are extremely lax, massively biased against smaller competitors and local business), so why should they care if it is the U.S. government who de jure controls the moon when they de facto decide how it would be used anyway?

Overall it's the nonsense worry of the type of guy who would cut his dick off and change his name to Brianna tbh.

Also LOL at calling guided orbital connetic impactors "dropping rocks", what a retard


403009  No.30986

>>30603

socialists scared of capitalist moon rocks


11a457  No.31073

>>30621

>kiloton-TNT equivalents

That's the real issue here, in order to outbang a conventional nuke you'd need a fucking huge rock. The tsar bomba had a yeild of 50 megatons, that's a 50 million ton rock at 3km/s. Sure, the rock is gonna be going a lot faster than that since it's got the whole distance from the moon to accelerate, but you'd still probably need a rock with a mass of tens or even hundreds of thousands of tons, and then you've got to build something that can launch it off the moon.

It would be far, far easier just to use nukes, and you don't even need to be on the moon to do that.




274252  No.28816[Reply]

"Ever since I was a little kid, I wanted to join Starfleet."

"All I ever heard growing up was how great Starfleet was."

Does everyone in the future just work on space ships or something?

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f5e763  No.30975

>>30806

Cry harder. I can't hear you yet.


7d8b81  No.30981

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>>30975

NIGGERS GET THE GAS


7b2be8  No.31000

>>28892

>The Canadians expended a lot less blood doing it

I'm not familiar with estimations of the tribal populations in each country, but I expect the Iroquois et al were significantly less well armed and organized than Southern tribes which had been raiding the mexicans for many years. As well Canada also ended up with a significantly larger intransigent underclass of Indians than the US (although not to be outdone, they imported and released an even larger and more intransigent underclass from Africa). In fact the Indians served as the primary members of the progressive coalition for white genocide in Canada until their numbers were eclipsed by chinks and poos over the previous decades, while propaganda has shifted more towards the vanilla Americanized "muh poor niggers".


ba49dd  No.31052

>>28888

Checked, do you by any chance play Star Fleet Battles, and although your taste is Patrician, why do you bring up the beauty that is Shoggoths here?

>>28890

Almost all the ranks we see on screen in Next Generation are commissioned tho.

>>29990

The death toll in the hundreds of billions in the Yesterday's Enterprise timeline does not support this estimate unless there are a lot of colonies or unless they started cloning people or something in that timeline after the point of divergence.


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>>28816

<"All I ever heard growing up was how great Starfleet was."

>be me, promising ensign

>work hard all the time

>never do anything to endanger the ship or it's crew

>never be allowed on the bridge

>never be part of an away team except when they expect one of us in the wreckage

>never mentored by the captain or any first officers

>never get any private time on the holodeck

>never assigned any special projects

>nobody cares if I get into the academy or not

>not related to a senior officer

Who else on this ship feels like there is a club and we're not in it?




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a863f7  No.27566[Reply]

How different would Star Trek have turned out if it premiered today instead of in the '60s? Would it still be recognizable as Star Trek, or would it just not be the same with the current zeitgeist?

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b1a615  No.30808

>>30803

>there's something that looks suspiciously like a spare warp core

Actually that's just Janeway's coffee grinder.


9feb3f  No.30810

>>30803

>Because they took the antimatter out of the spare and used it to make new torpedoes.

Then why did they ever kvetch about having a limited supply of them in the first place?


3e3d3c  No.30974

>>30808

>Janeway's coffee grinder is powered by anti-matter

Seems legit. But here's a question: do you suppose there is any difference between coffee that is replicated directly, and coffee that is made in an actual espresso machine with grounds made from replicated beans?

>>30810

They were worried about running out of torpedoes but didn't want to sacrifice the spare warp core, until the time came when there were simply no more torpedoes (or not enough to ensure they wouldn't run out in the middle of a battle) and so had to dismantle it. It's always nice to have a backup, but surviving the current situation takes precedent because if you're dead the backup does you no good.


53dcaf  No.30985

>>30974

>do you suppose there is any difference between coffee that is replicated directly, and coffee that is made in an actual espresso machine with grounds made from replicated beans?

They had a whole hydroponics deck dedicated to coffee beans anon. Do you need to ask that question?


0596f4  No.31050

>>27566

The megacorps would never let another thing like Star Trek happen in a million years.




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209f56  No.17775[Reply]

What is /strek/'s take on The Expanse and the book series its based on?

The villians logic.

The tech.

The ships.

The deliberately turning scientists into high functioning sociopaths to avoid moral scruples with their work.

The politics between belters, Mars and Earth.

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8102e1  No.30987

>>30357

It failed because it's:

A) Not interesting

B) Has badly written characters, plot, and setting

C) Pretends to be realistic to get the dumb person pretending to be smart audience

D) It's basically black hole theory version of star trek


c05e74  No.30990

>>30357

No, it's coming this year on Amazon Prime.

>>30987

>Not interesting

How is it not interesting? It explores solar system politics and hard sci-fi concepts while dealing with a grim-dark alien presence lurking behind everything with unknown implications.

>Has badly written characters, plot, and setting

1. I agree Holden, the Asian dude and Naomi are a bit vanilla, but the rest are absolutely fucking entertaining characters.

2. The plot isn't bad. It's laid out on a series of books and planned from the beginning, it dives deep into interplanetary conflict.

3. How the fucking is the setting bad?!! It's sets are absolutely beautiful.

>Pretends to be realistic to get the dumb person pretending to be smart audience

You don't have to watch it because of "I fucking love science". The fact it actually tries to be realistic instead of giving up any such notion as a premise is now a bad thing? That's not what carries the show anyway, and it's not supposed to. It's a character, plot and exploration driven space opera.

>It's basically black hole theory version of star trek

No.


8aa8d2  No.30992

>>30987

It's a good show but it has the same issues as Game of Thrones: there are too many characters and so little time to allow them to grow.


8102e1  No.31006

>>30990

>How is it not interesting?

>Holden, the Asian dude and Naomi are a bit vanilla

Those are the main characters, you just answered your question. The other characters might not be "vanilla", but they are undeveloped in the story arc, they're ornamental peacocks meant to strut in and grab your attention for a second before leaping back out of the story.

As for the science… it itself isn't the focus, the point I'm making is not that scifi even hinges on science, but that this story PRETENDS to be realistic. That's the bad part, the pretending, not the science. A good scifi is generally a drama or a tragedy written in the classical sense with character development driving the story, the science is the setting of the scifi, it's not the content itself. This show basically has no story arcs in it, the science is the story, and it's crappy nuscience to start with. If your response to "the setting is bad" is "how the fucking is the setting bad?!! It's sets are absolutely beautiful" you may want to look up what "setting" means in terms of story, because that was fucking embarrassing.

>It's a character, plot and exploration driven space opera.

The only way you could possibly say this is if you've never read a space opera. Mostly I feel bad for you because you've clearly been deprived of the best scifi has to offer… but I'm a bit annoyed that you're calling a prius a sports car. Read this:

https://www.amazon.com/Praxis-Dead-Empires-Fall/dp/0743461118/

Then compare it to Duh Espans.

>>30992

The book itself was badly written, only a very good director could have made it work on screen.


e67886  No.31044

>>26724

>sliders

>hard scifi

>objectively better than Trek or Swars.

if sliders didn't do an episode where magic is literally real, I'm honestly surprised




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7e84a2  No.31016[Reply]

>"How do you allow Klingon peta'Q to walk around in a Starfleet uniform?"

>"Remove this tohzah from my sight!"

damn i didn't know raimi wrote TNG episodes too

7d9ce1  No.31017

Only a Varul would use such language.




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5f7172  No.30837[Reply]

I'm just finishing up my re-watch of DS9. Meaning of course I watched up to the penultimate episode of Season 6, then watched Siege of AR-558, It's Only a Paper Moon, and a couple filler episodes that I like. I think most of us here will agree that the plot-advancing episodes of Season 7, and the last part of Season 6, became very retarded very quickly. But, while what needs to go is pretty clear, what would you replace it with? Some starting points:

>S6: Waltz

Sisko and Dukat stranded together is an excellent concept for an episode, and the first part of it is set up well. Even the second part could mostly be kept as-is, if the end of the episode includes a bit of self-awareness. Rather than it being nothing more than the baste black guy heroically outsmarting the crazy hallucinating evil alt-right bigot, make it more clear that all Sisko really did is exploit and manipulate a mentally ill man for his own indulgence, going far beyond what was necessary for him to secure his own safety. Also, when Sisko discovers that the beacon is really offline, it would be far more in-character for Dukat to off-handedly apologize, briefly explain his reasoning, then continue on with the conversation, instead of chimping out.

>You really must forgive my duplicity in this matter, Captain. But, I think we should consider this a blessing in disguise. If you had known the transmitter was off-line, we wouldn't be having this enlightening conversation right now.

<Sisko visibly prepared to nog rage

>Have no fear, captain. As soon as we have concluded our little chat, I fully intend to re-activate your transmitter, and your friends can pick you up in good time.

After he's gotten what he's needed, or it's clear that Sisko isn't talking, Dukat will activate the transmitter while Sisko sleeps, then leaves in the shuttle.

>S6: Reckoning

Remove this episode and replace it with some filler episode from the cutting room floor. Kosst Amojan is stupid, the anime-tier battle of the energy beams was stupid, there's nothing redeemable to be found in the script. The Pah-wraiths shouldn't appear at all after The Assignment. In fact, letPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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806062  No.30989

Reminder that DS9 turned into literal Indiana Jones in the end, because bajewrans just can't resist living their demented fantasies of everyone else being hellspawn.


0f75cd  No.30994

>>30971

I liked the idea that underneath all the fanaticism she actually did mean well, I mean what did she do wrong REALLY


79dcd3  No.30995

>>30994

>I mean what did she do wrong REALLY

She didn't believe in her ideals enough to get her hands dirty. In the first episode in which she was introduced, she found a useful idiot wrinklenose to make the bomb and kill Bareil for her, and take the fall when she was caught. And in general, whether it was the treaty with Cardassia, or the Kai election, she was consistently very careful to make sure other poeple took all of the risk while she captured as much of the credit. You could make the argument that that sort of shameless realpolitik is admirable, and to an extent I would agree. But in answer to the question "what did she do wrong" you can plausibly say that she wasn't willing to take the risk she made her lackeys take, which is a character weakness.


3f836f  No.30996

>>30995

She also tossed Dukat out when he was blind and poisoned him.


862314  No.31009

>>30996

They never really explained how Dukat got his sight back. My bet is that he banged every Bajoran woman out there until blood went from his dick to his eyes.




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8e5e7b  No.30842[Reply]

Here's the trailer for the DS9 documentary.

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1fa882  No.30938

>>30842

The 1 second glimpse of Nana shows she still has it.


6f238a  No.30978

>>30907

Nana Visitor's child on DS9 was the child of Siddig.


69bcf7  No.30979

>>30908

Avery Brooks thinking he's actually a Federation Captain trapped in a hallucinatory fictional past that's been crafted to make him suffer would explain all of his unusual behavior.


aed917  No.30982

>>30908

They never told him it was an episode. They just dropped him on-set and rolled the cameras.

That's the real reason some of the cast said that during his nervous breakdown they started getting worried for Avery's mental health.


641f6d  No.30983

>>30982

Sounds too good that it must be legit.




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7d6d36  No.25046[Reply]

I thought we gonna have a thread like this. Buckle up for my hot takes:

- most of the dialog on ST is really clumsy and I find this to be irksome. While there are certainly good monologs, dual exchanges in ST always feel awkward and awfully infantile. It's like every character is constantly in exposition mode and the audience is never required to pick up on clues.

- Let's be honest, besides very fee exceptions like "The Visitor" most of the non-story episodes of DS9 are a snoozefest and filler. There is also zero exploration despite the station being situated next to a wormhole carrying them to the other end of the galaxy.

- despite being a boring movie, ST:TMP was the most Trekish movie, especially with its aesthetic.

- there is never going to be another "real" Trek series, ever. DS9 and even VOY despite its flaws were the last ones. This is because of the industry. Shows these days are all about "personal drama", superficial core issues, Chinese fortune cookie wisdoms in dialog form, massive pressure to have the ratings after season 1, constant SJW quota fullfullment, fast pace so the consumerist audience doesn't get bored. The only chance ever for another decent Trek series would be a completely independent project, non-profit, with crowdfunding. However, you'd catch Aids nonetheless due to the retarded Trekkie community, which would have the main influence over the show.

- post-First Contact uniforms are the best ones. DS9 would be way more enjoyable from the beginning if Avery Brooks shaved his head and got that uniform from the beginning.

- Also, Avery Brooks is a horrible actor.

- despite being left-liberal in tone, there are plenty of episodes that are quite American with neoconservative undertones. In the Pale Moonlight is basically a justification for a false flag to start a war. Old Klingons resemble the Japanese. ST VI was about the end of the Cold War with the Klangs selling out their own country for a Pizza Hut like Gorbachev.

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39e98b  No.30541

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>>25046

>Unpopular Opinions

You wouldn't know it from this subreddit of zoomer poseurs but those are all fairly popular opinions. On every other trek board I've ever used (with the exception of the hyper-autismos on those 'trek vs wars'-type forums) people generally acknowledge that most trek series are mostly drek, with the 5%-10% of good episodes being such gold that it makes up for everything else. It's always love/hate.

>>30525

You're the worst poster on this fucking board and it would be fine if you left forever. I really wouldn't mind.

You can't fucking invoke time travel to somehow be right when someone posts a valid counter-argument to your bullshit, dude.

TOS had more to do with the cold war than anything else and there are a million interviews with the creators that confirm this.

The Vietnam war in particular was ~kind of a big fucking deal~, and the propaganda of the time was informed by, yes, some residual WW2 japan bullshit, but largely they were a mainland "yellow horde" with echos of hundreds of years of the exact imperial rivalry that TOS went out of its way to reflect. Mongols are a much more logical counterpart to Space Romans and that IRL history is absolutely central to the development of european imperialism and the circumstances leading up to the World Wars themselves. That east vs west paradigm is crucial to western history and is largely what framed perceptions of the japanese in the first place, right down to the pointy tails.


0687fb  No.30551

>>30541

>You wouldn't know it from this subreddit of zoomer poseurs

>>30541

>You're the worst poster on this fucking board and it would be fine if you left forever. I really wouldn't mind.

well aren't you a sourpuss


314e42  No.30552

>>30541

I'm well aware of the fact that TOS was heavily steeped in the Cold War, and I have not at any point contradicted this claim. This does not change the fact that, in the formative parts of their worldbuilding–including the TOS films, in which their uniforms were very reminiscent of feudal Japan–the Klingons were made to resemble the nips.


9a3ab4  No.30567

>>30551

>well aren't you a sourpuss

yes


972874  No.30980

>>30511

Pretty sure it has been.




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