No.28346
Lets talk about mobile hacker gear.
No.28448
>>28346
>that fourth pic
Fucking schway.
No.28512
Not mine, but pretty schway.
What's the point of those "cyberdecks"? They look cool, but I don't get the purpose.
No.28513
>>28512
They just resemble Gibson's vision of the future. They dont have the purpose to be of practical use.
No.28514
No.28516
>>28512
This is pretty schway. Seems like an ideal way to carry a gaming set up to a lan party.
No.28517
That 3rd pic sort of calls to me.
>tfw you'll never be able to punch deck like Case.
No.28518
>>28512
Why are they so schway?
maybe i have been reading too much Gibsons works.
No.28529
>>28517
you too can make one of these user. Its literally regular computer components in a gutted musical keyboard with a typing keyboard glued on and a strap attached. Make it nfc enabled and you can use it with a vr headset for maximum cyberpunk.
No.28543
>>28346
Source on pics #2 and #3?
No.28551
The goal here is to find a balance between utility and inconspicuousness. Here's my idea for the ultimate mobile wizard:
It's all in the backpack: a fanless low power PC, camelbak for hydration, some high density snacks; change of clothes; UPS attached to an umbrella with a solar sheet top (sit down to use for "shade" to not look like a madman). Ultimate schway if the umbrella can deploy/retract by lever, similar to a recliner couch. Backup power using an arbitrary number of AA batteries.
The PC - sound via bone conducting headphones; monitor via (doesn't exist yet but) VR/AR headset (probably Oculus Rift CV2); custom keyboard that fits inside front pockets, works like the Datahand; CLI only as AR overlay on a FLOSS OS.
The clothes - cargo pants and a techy t-shirt that "explains" the setup (a shirt promoting VR or whatever). If it could be pulled off, wear whatever looks least conspicuous.
Everything else - keep work online; do not own anything that you cannot carry on you; do not have a permanent place of residence; keep a taser; use only prepaid debit cards or bitcoin; and finally use something small or quick for long distances, like a skateboard, skate shoes, or just a taxi.
No.28559
No.28566
>>28551
>VR/AR
You could already probably pull off a cli-only headset that's inside a pair of sunglasses.
>use something small or quick for long distances
>skateboard or skate shoes
just buy a fucking bike, you can knock off 100 miles in a day with a good bike no problem, and you can go really fast too. The only problem is if it gets stolen, which shouldn't be much of a problem if you lock it properly.
No.28567
>>28566
for maxiumum schway you can lock your bike with a rfid implant detecting ignition switch.
No.28574
>>28512
looks like a great way to scratch your mobo.
No.28693
>>28559
Thanks, I'm seriously contemplating making this my winter project.
What would you put into deck for this incoming first generation of VR HMDs? According to Oculus, here are the minimum specs required to run things in vr without getting simsick: https://www.oculus.com/en-us/blog/powering-the-rift/
Intel's been making a big push for integrated graphics support for VR; AMD has been getting there in the same vein with their APUs as well. I'll probably go with an intel mini-itx board with something like an i5-4590 to keep the wattage low as well eight gigs of whatever memory sticks I have lying around. I wanna avoid any off-the-shelf case because that just wouldn't be schway. But for storage the case would probably have a couple ssd storage slots for easy swapping and 60-75% mechanical keyboard soldered on.
Discrete graphics seem to be the only viable solution in the immediate future. I fear any GPU that is more than six or seven inches in length would be just as cumbersome as the deck shown in the instructable. A mini GTX 970 is capable of playing games at 1080p, 60-70fps and that's without having it display an image to each eye; I'd love to have something that averaged at 90fps but that would end up being costly as shit. Speaking of which, I hear that AMD's R9 Nano will have great price-to-performance ratio thanks to its HBM, too; so I'm not sure what I could go with.
This is something that I'd want to use while on the go so it needs to be capable of running without wall power. The only way I can do this would be to probably find a picoPSU with 500w output and connect it to one or two 12v external rechargeable batteries. Do you users think that would work?
No.28696
>>28693
GPUS typically come with a very cumbersome case. You can try carefully shaving off some of the case to reduce it in size. Alternatively, consider getting 2 small gpus instead of one big one.
No.28715
>>28696
>GPUS typically come with a very cumbersome case.
Both mini GTX 970s and the upcoming R9 Nano brush over six inches in length; I'd end up installing either of them horizontally to save space. I don't think I'll have to swap out any of their heatsinks for the sake of reducing size.
>Alternatively, consider getting 2 small gpus instead of one big one.
Then I'd have to get a micro-ATX board which would only increase the size of the deck; having a single gpu to render each eye would be great but that just wouldn't be feasible in terms of portability.
I'm more worried about the power supply. Computer PSUs that are designed to take 12v DC power as input exist; they're typically used by people who are in the market for setting up a computer in their cars, boats or solar-powered shacks. You could easily give power to the components of a mini-itx board for as long as the battery lasts. The only problem with this is finding a way to monitor the state of the battery itself; 12v external batteries aren't very cumbersome, don't you think? I can't find much information on mini-itx machines running on these kinds of PSUs so I can't really say that it's worth it, but I can say that it is possible to make it portable while still keeping it somewhat lightweight.
No.28716
>>28715
>The only problem with this is finding a way to monitor the state of the battery itself
Not really. The real problem is supplying the required current, because a 12V battery is not anywhere near 12V, necessarily. Monitoring the batteries can be done the same as anything else with batteries.
But you're right, the PSU is the problem. There's a lot of information on mini-ITX machines and picoPSUs but very few have massive GPUs and high end power requirements. This project is largely in it's own class as far as power goes.
Most laptops use low-power processors and few of them have AC adapters over maybe 150W. Most picoPSUs are smaller than that.
No.28718
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No.28724
i posted a badly drawn design some time ago in either /tech/ or /g/.
It had a wearable keyboard, a googleglass-like peripheral and the computer itself was in a backpack. Sadly i dont have the pic anymore
No.28730
>>28726
cannot wait for cicret
No.28736
waiting for this thing to come out
and I might keep shilling for it as long it didn't
No.28745
>>28730
>implying the company is not just scamming everybody
No.28747
>>28726
>>28730
what if you have hairy arms?
No.28748
>>28747
>the future
>being some stoneage monkey
No.28749
No.28758
>>28747
like this anon pointed out >>28748 , its the future, replace your skin with enduretaniumum exoskeleton.
No.28812
I've been wanting to make a helmet like this.
Played around with a few designs and ideas.
The problem is finding something to use as the shell. I was thinking one of those disco lights, but I can't find one big enough anywhere.
No.28813
>>28812
Just make the shell yourself.
Alternatively create a 3d model and find someone to print it for you.
No.28814
>>28812
this thing looks like a planetarium device. Have fun spending some million dollars on it. You better make it by yourself.
No.28829
>>28812
all the tech aside, isn't it just a helmet on his face?
No.28832
Fucking awesome potential for this, I want to see modded Thync receivers that can do more intense feelings.
http://www.thync.com/
(pic unrelated)
No.28833
>>28812
What would this thing even do.
No.28846
>>28512
>all that trouble just to run Windows or OSX
No.28847
>>28832
>$299 for a tDCS device
>$20 for ten-piece electrode packs
lol no, it'll be doa; I bet most of the funding they received went into that shitty-looking app they're shipping with it because doing tdcs is as simple as two sponges coupled with a 9v battery.
No.28849
>>28832
It's amazing how fucking close that it is "theync."
They really need to choose a different domain name.
No.28860
>>28847
not to mention that its ugly as fuck
No.32155
No.32156
>>32155
I think it is raspery pi. They turn into this a game console with lunix.
No.32158
>>28512
Nothing schway about running non-free software.
No.32163
>>32158
>non-free
>software
I know what those words mean individually but when you say them in a sentence like that it just doesn't make any sense
No.32169
>>28512
>not using windows 10 with botnet disabled
wew lad
No.32170
>>32163
head on over to https://fsf.org and discover what it's all about
No.32175
>>32170
But that's free software
I'm pretty sure free software isn't non-free software
Sorry if that puts a damper on your whole "have you heard the good news" shtick, I know you've probably been waiting all day to pull that out
No.32191
>>32175
Some drugs weren't meant to be taken but some children were born to die in the womb.
No.32192
>>32175
>not understanding opposites
did you pass the third grade? Because I have yet to see evidence of it.
No.32222
>>32169
>implying it actually disables
No.32236
>>32192
>Literally arguing that opposites are not opposites
>And calling other people retarded for thinking opposites are opposites
No.32245
>>32222
If you look very carefully, I mean squint like jack sparrow having a fist in his asshole, you can see in your outgoing connections that nothing is going to microsoft.
No.32569
>>32245
Yes but how do you know that they aren't disguising it as other outgoing traffic. How do you know they aren't downloading when you aren't looking. Don't trust software you can't modify buddy.
No.32586
Google glass a corpcuck, any other AR tech available? I know there's a how-to for making a RasPi into a wearable eye-projection computer.
No.32587
>>32586
Microsoft hololens
No.32589
>>32587
But user, that's even more corptastic
No.32620
>>28833
>>28829
Looks to me it's a full computer he's wearing. The things over the back of his head look like drives of some sort, and I'm sure there are plenty of displays under the dome. I imagine it's got a camera(s) in it. Either he uses voice to operate, or there are controls in a pocket somewhere or something.
No.32646
>>32569
Nothing is stopping me from modifying windows files at all. I can edit them by take ownership, then text editor. What you're talking about is full tinfoil hat shit.
No.32692
>>32155
open pandora is my guess
No.32706
>>32646
Gee I wonder if I can edit the source code of the Windows Kernel. Oh that's right the source code is CLOSED SOURCE which means that I CAN NOT EVEN LOOK AT IT. Also you post makes little sense, I suggest you git gud at English before posting retarded shit.
No.32753
>>32245
post proof and I'll install Windows 10 on all of my computers.
No.32900
No.33488
If the goal wasn't to jack in to a VR gaming headset, and just have a deck-style computer for average use and ricing, what do you chummers think would be the best way to build it? Go with separate parts and build a desktop in a deck or go with something like a Banana Pi and have room to embed a screen, keyboard, and mouse pad?
Also, what are all the alternatives to the Raspberry Pi? I remember seeing a chart once but I can't find it.
No.33491
I've been looking at the Pandora and it's successor the Pyra and I was wondering why their performance lags so far behind say, modern smartphones, which also contain shit like cameras and accelerometers?
And on a related note, wouldn't the best starting point for a cyberdeck be a tablet PC? I don't know how easy that would be to modify, but the specs of, say, the Jolla are pretty damn good and an open project like that shouldn't be too hard to work with.
Also, I came across this board which I think has potential.
https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/open-source-hardware
Another issue is input. The obvious choice would be a physical qwerty keyboard, but these are fairly bulky and really require a flat surface to type on, which isn't ideal. Another option would be a touchscreen interface, which is very space efficient but not very schway these days. Voice input is cool but you will look like an idiot.
Some sort of chorded keyboard similar to pic related could be suitable, and would also allow fast one handed typing, although assuming one key is used per finger only 31 characters could be represented (no 00000). This could be easily integrated into a glove, and when typing with both hands up to 1023 characters would be possible, which could mean superfast typing in eastern languages.
My idea is to have a glove (fingerless, obviously) with sensors to detect movement of the fingers, which should be very simple. If it could detect both downwards and upwards movements, 242 characters could be typed with one hand which is more than enough for coding and leaves options for window management and other shortcuts. Something a bit more solid like the second pic could provide delicious clicky tactile feedback and make typing much faster and easier, since one would only have to make very small movements.
No.33897
Anyone recommending a high end PC as a cyberdeck misses the point. Something like a smartphone with a VR headset would be pretty damn close to the classic Gibson Ono-Sendai - a "toy" computer with a huge portion of its limited compute power dedicated to fancy outputs and network connectivity, with the real magic happening in the Matrix/Cloud. In the Matrix/Cloud you can build your own little fiefdom with one or more systems, be they physical hardware or (less secure) VMs/VPSes on somebody else's hardware.
Keep in mind the original system that inspired the concept of portable cyberdecks was an Apple IIc.
No.33898
>>33491
>I've been looking at the Pandora and it's successor the Pyra and I was wondering why their performance lags so far behind say, modern smartphones, which also contain shit like cameras and accelerometers?
It turns out that a megacorp's economies of scale and willingness to use proprietary tech give it a leg up on a bunch of amateur free software nuts in enhancing a system's performance/price ratio.
>And on a related note, wouldn't the best starting point for a cyberdeck be a tablet PC?
Sure, as long as you go with something hacker friendly (read: x86 or something with 100% upstream kernel support on Linux). Those cheap $50 tablets with locked bootloaders won't do you a bit of good.
No.33968
>>33897
So set up a pi to basically be a mobile terminal for a server back home? Go somewhere with wifi and work like you're on your own computer.
Hell, I did this with my smartphone for a while. Used an SSH app to do stuff on a ~club.
Too bad my phone's a piece of shit, I woulda done more otherwise. Maybe when I get one that isn't terrible.
No.33978
>>28726
Very usefull when you fapping at bathroom.
No.33986
>>33968
Yeah, a ~6" phablet with USB OTG Host support docked into a keyboard+batterypack cyberdeck would be pretty schway if you can't do the goggles yet. VX Connectbot is the best of the Android SSH clients for using full sized USB keyboards if you go that route.
No.34700
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
I'm thinking that something like embed, but in 3D w/ head tracking could mean that the deck could be less keyboard-focused and more focused on more space for protection/ventilation/power.
No.34787
>>34763
this is spam. someone with javascript enabled please report.
No.35023
>>32163
Smelly dumb newfag scum.
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No.38233
>>32620
No no. Look at it. It's literally a helmet worn on the front of his face.
You can find old kevlar helmets from milsurp shops online for like 100bucks.
Figure out a way to rig a vr phone into it and you could make that pretty schway.
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