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"A future is not given to you. It is something you must take for yourself. "

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 No.28346

Lets talk about mobile hacker gear.

 No.28448

>>28346

>that fourth pic

Fucking schway.


 No.28500

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

 No.28512

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Not mine, but pretty schway.

What's the point of those "cyberdecks"? They look cool, but I don't get the purpose.


 No.28513

>>28512

They just resemble Gibson's vision of the future. They dont have the purpose to be of practical use.


 No.28514

>>28512

Inconspicuous


 No.28516

>>28512

This is pretty schway. Seems like an ideal way to carry a gaming set up to a lan party.


 No.28517

That 3rd pic sort of calls to me.

>tfw you'll never be able to punch deck like Case.


 No.28518

>>28512

Why are they so schway?

maybe i have been reading too much Gibsons works.


 No.28529

>>28517

you too can make one of these user. Its literally regular computer components in a gutted musical keyboard with a typing keyboard glued on and a strap attached. Make it nfc enabled and you can use it with a vr headset for maximum cyberpunk.


 No.28543

>>28346

Source on pics #2 and #3?


 No.28551

The goal here is to find a balance between utility and inconspicuousness. Here's my idea for the ultimate mobile wizard:

It's all in the backpack: a fanless low power PC, camelbak for hydration, some high density snacks; change of clothes; UPS attached to an umbrella with a solar sheet top (sit down to use for "shade" to not look like a madman). Ultimate schway if the umbrella can deploy/retract by lever, similar to a recliner couch. Backup power using an arbitrary number of AA batteries.

The PC - sound via bone conducting headphones; monitor via (doesn't exist yet but) VR/AR headset (probably Oculus Rift CV2); custom keyboard that fits inside front pockets, works like the Datahand; CLI only as AR overlay on a FLOSS OS.

The clothes - cargo pants and a techy t-shirt that "explains" the setup (a shirt promoting VR or whatever). If it could be pulled off, wear whatever looks least conspicuous.

Everything else - keep work online; do not own anything that you cannot carry on you; do not have a permanent place of residence; keep a taser; use only prepaid debit cards or bitcoin; and finally use something small or quick for long distances, like a skateboard, skate shoes, or just a taxi.


 No.28559


 No.28566

>>28551

>VR/AR

You could already probably pull off a cli-only headset that's inside a pair of sunglasses.

>use something small or quick for long distances

>skateboard or skate shoes

just buy a fucking bike, you can knock off 100 miles in a day with a good bike no problem, and you can go really fast too. The only problem is if it gets stolen, which shouldn't be much of a problem if you lock it properly.


 No.28567

>>28566

for maxiumum schway you can lock your bike with a rfid implant detecting ignition switch.


 No.28574

>>28512

looks like a great way to scratch your mobo.


 No.28693

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>>28559

Thanks, I'm seriously contemplating making this my winter project.

What would you put into deck for this incoming first generation of VR HMDs? According to Oculus, here are the minimum specs required to run things in vr without getting simsick: https://www.oculus.com/en-us/blog/powering-the-rift/

Intel's been making a big push for integrated graphics support for VR; AMD has been getting there in the same vein with their APUs as well. I'll probably go with an intel mini-itx board with something like an i5-4590 to keep the wattage low as well eight gigs of whatever memory sticks I have lying around. I wanna avoid any off-the-shelf case because that just wouldn't be schway. But for storage the case would probably have a couple ssd storage slots for easy swapping and 60-75% mechanical keyboard soldered on.

Discrete graphics seem to be the only viable solution in the immediate future. I fear any GPU that is more than six or seven inches in length would be just as cumbersome as the deck shown in the instructable. A mini GTX 970 is capable of playing games at 1080p, 60-70fps and that's without having it display an image to each eye; I'd love to have something that averaged at 90fps but that would end up being costly as shit. Speaking of which, I hear that AMD's R9 Nano will have great price-to-performance ratio thanks to its HBM, too; so I'm not sure what I could go with.

This is something that I'd want to use while on the go so it needs to be capable of running without wall power. The only way I can do this would be to probably find a picoPSU with 500w output and connect it to one or two 12v external rechargeable batteries. Do you users think that would work?


 No.28696

>>28693

GPUS typically come with a very cumbersome case. You can try carefully shaving off some of the case to reduce it in size. Alternatively, consider getting 2 small gpus instead of one big one.


 No.28715

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>>28696

>GPUS typically come with a very cumbersome case.

Both mini GTX 970s and the upcoming R9 Nano brush over six inches in length; I'd end up installing either of them horizontally to save space. I don't think I'll have to swap out any of their heatsinks for the sake of reducing size.

>Alternatively, consider getting 2 small gpus instead of one big one.

Then I'd have to get a micro-ATX board which would only increase the size of the deck; having a single gpu to render each eye would be great but that just wouldn't be feasible in terms of portability.

I'm more worried about the power supply. Computer PSUs that are designed to take 12v DC power as input exist; they're typically used by people who are in the market for setting up a computer in their cars, boats or solar-powered shacks. You could easily give power to the components of a mini-itx board for as long as the battery lasts. The only problem with this is finding a way to monitor the state of the battery itself; 12v external batteries aren't very cumbersome, don't you think? I can't find much information on mini-itx machines running on these kinds of PSUs so I can't really say that it's worth it, but I can say that it is possible to make it portable while still keeping it somewhat lightweight.


 No.28716

>>28715

>The only problem with this is finding a way to monitor the state of the battery itself

Not really. The real problem is supplying the required current, because a 12V battery is not anywhere near 12V, necessarily. Monitoring the batteries can be done the same as anything else with batteries.

But you're right, the PSU is the problem. There's a lot of information on mini-ITX machines and picoPSUs but very few have massive GPUs and high end power requirements. This project is largely in it's own class as far as power goes.

Most laptops use low-power processors and few of them have AC adapters over maybe 150W. Most picoPSUs are smaller than that.


 No.28718

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:^)


 No.28723

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 No.28724

i posted a badly drawn design some time ago in either /tech/ or /g/.

It had a wearable keyboard, a googleglass-like peripheral and the computer itself was in a backpack. Sadly i dont have the pic anymore


 No.28726

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 No.28730

>>28726

cannot wait for cicret


 No.28736

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waiting for this thing to come out

and I might keep shilling for it as long it didn't


 No.28745

>>28730

>implying the company is not just scamming everybody


 No.28747

>>28726

>>28730

what if you have hairy arms?


 No.28748

>>28747

>the future

>being some stoneage monkey


 No.28749


 No.28758

>>28747

like this anon pointed out >>28748 , its the future, replace your skin with enduretaniumum exoskeleton.


 No.28812

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I've been wanting to make a helmet like this.

Played around with a few designs and ideas.

The problem is finding something to use as the shell. I was thinking one of those disco lights, but I can't find one big enough anywhere.


 No.28813

>>28812

Just make the shell yourself.

Alternatively create a 3d model and find someone to print it for you.


 No.28814

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>>28812

this thing looks like a planetarium device. Have fun spending some million dollars on it. You better make it by yourself.


 No.28829

>>28812

all the tech aside, isn't it just a helmet on his face?


 No.28832

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Fucking awesome potential for this, I want to see modded Thync receivers that can do more intense feelings.

http://www.thync.com/

(pic unrelated)


 No.28833

>>28812

What would this thing even do.


 No.28846

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>>28512

>all that trouble just to run Windows or OSX


 No.28847

>>28832

>$299 for a tDCS device

>$20 for ten-piece electrode packs

lol no, it'll be doa; I bet most of the funding they received went into that shitty-looking app they're shipping with it because doing tdcs is as simple as two sponges coupled with a 9v battery.


 No.28849

>>28832

It's amazing how fucking close that it is "theync."

They really need to choose a different domain name.


 No.28860

>>28847

not to mention that its ugly as fuck


 No.32153

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 No.32155

>>28736

What is that?


 No.32156

>>32155

I think it is raspery pi. They turn into this a game console with lunix.


 No.32158

>>28512

Nothing schway about running non-free software.


 No.32163

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>>32158

>non-free

>software

I know what those words mean individually but when you say them in a sentence like that it just doesn't make any sense


 No.32169

>>28512

>not using windows 10 with botnet disabled

wew lad


 No.32170

>>32163

head on over to https://fsf.org and discover what it's all about


 No.32175

>>32170

But that's free software

I'm pretty sure free software isn't non-free software

Sorry if that puts a damper on your whole "have you heard the good news" shtick, I know you've probably been waiting all day to pull that out


 No.32191

>>32175

Some drugs weren't meant to be taken but some children were born to die in the womb.


 No.32192

>>32175

>not understanding opposites

did you pass the third grade? Because I have yet to see evidence of it.


 No.32222

>>32169

>implying it actually disables


 No.32225

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>>32222

QUADS HAVE SPOKEN


 No.32236

>>32192

>Literally arguing that opposites are not opposites

>And calling other people retarded for thinking opposites are opposites


 No.32245

>>32222

If you look very carefully, I mean squint like jack sparrow having a fist in his asshole, you can see in your outgoing connections that nothing is going to microsoft.


 No.32569

>>32245

Yes but how do you know that they aren't disguising it as other outgoing traffic. How do you know they aren't downloading when you aren't looking. Don't trust software you can't modify buddy.


 No.32586

Google glass a corpcuck, any other AR tech available? I know there's a how-to for making a RasPi into a wearable eye-projection computer.


 No.32587

>>32586

Microsoft hololens


 No.32589

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>>32587

But user, that's even more corptastic


 No.32620

>>28833

>>28829

Looks to me it's a full computer he's wearing. The things over the back of his head look like drives of some sort, and I'm sure there are plenty of displays under the dome. I imagine it's got a camera(s) in it. Either he uses voice to operate, or there are controls in a pocket somewhere or something.


 No.32646

>>32569

Nothing is stopping me from modifying windows files at all. I can edit them by take ownership, then text editor. What you're talking about is full tinfoil hat shit.


 No.32692

>>32155

open pandora is my guess


 No.32706

>>32646

Gee I wonder if I can edit the source code of the Windows Kernel. Oh that's right the source code is CLOSED SOURCE which means that I CAN NOT EVEN LOOK AT IT. Also you post makes little sense, I suggest you git gud at English before posting retarded shit.


 No.32753

>>32245

post proof and I'll install Windows 10 on all of my computers.


 No.32900


 No.33488

If the goal wasn't to jack in to a VR gaming headset, and just have a deck-style computer for average use and ricing, what do you chummers think would be the best way to build it? Go with separate parts and build a desktop in a deck or go with something like a Banana Pi and have room to embed a screen, keyboard, and mouse pad?

Also, what are all the alternatives to the Raspberry Pi? I remember seeing a chart once but I can't find it.


 No.33491

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I've been looking at the Pandora and it's successor the Pyra and I was wondering why their performance lags so far behind say, modern smartphones, which also contain shit like cameras and accelerometers?

And on a related note, wouldn't the best starting point for a cyberdeck be a tablet PC? I don't know how easy that would be to modify, but the specs of, say, the Jolla are pretty damn good and an open project like that shouldn't be too hard to work with.

Also, I came across this board which I think has potential.

https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/open-source-hardware

Another issue is input. The obvious choice would be a physical qwerty keyboard, but these are fairly bulky and really require a flat surface to type on, which isn't ideal. Another option would be a touchscreen interface, which is very space efficient but not very schway these days. Voice input is cool but you will look like an idiot.

Some sort of chorded keyboard similar to pic related could be suitable, and would also allow fast one handed typing, although assuming one key is used per finger only 31 characters could be represented (no 00000). This could be easily integrated into a glove, and when typing with both hands up to 1023 characters would be possible, which could mean superfast typing in eastern languages.

My idea is to have a glove (fingerless, obviously) with sensors to detect movement of the fingers, which should be very simple. If it could detect both downwards and upwards movements, 242 characters could be typed with one hand which is more than enough for coding and leaves options for window management and other shortcuts. Something a bit more solid like the second pic could provide delicious clicky tactile feedback and make typing much faster and easier, since one would only have to make very small movements.


 No.33897

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Anyone recommending a high end PC as a cyberdeck misses the point. Something like a smartphone with a VR headset would be pretty damn close to the classic Gibson Ono-Sendai - a "toy" computer with a huge portion of its limited compute power dedicated to fancy outputs and network connectivity, with the real magic happening in the Matrix/Cloud. In the Matrix/Cloud you can build your own little fiefdom with one or more systems, be they physical hardware or (less secure) VMs/VPSes on somebody else's hardware.

Keep in mind the original system that inspired the concept of portable cyberdecks was an Apple IIc.


 No.33898

>>33491

>I've been looking at the Pandora and it's successor the Pyra and I was wondering why their performance lags so far behind say, modern smartphones, which also contain shit like cameras and accelerometers?

It turns out that a megacorp's economies of scale and willingness to use proprietary tech give it a leg up on a bunch of amateur free software nuts in enhancing a system's performance/price ratio.

>And on a related note, wouldn't the best starting point for a cyberdeck be a tablet PC?

Sure, as long as you go with something hacker friendly (read: x86 or something with 100% upstream kernel support on Linux). Those cheap $50 tablets with locked bootloaders won't do you a bit of good.


 No.33968

>>33897

So set up a pi to basically be a mobile terminal for a server back home? Go somewhere with wifi and work like you're on your own computer.

Hell, I did this with my smartphone for a while. Used an SSH app to do stuff on a ~club.

Too bad my phone's a piece of shit, I woulda done more otherwise. Maybe when I get one that isn't terrible.


 No.33978

>>28726

Very usefull when you fapping at bathroom.


 No.33986

>>33968

Yeah, a ~6" phablet with USB OTG Host support docked into a keyboard+batterypack cyberdeck would be pretty schway if you can't do the goggles yet. VX Connectbot is the best of the Android SSH clients for using full sized USB keyboards if you go that route.


 No.34700

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

I'm thinking that something like embed, but in 3D w/ head tracking could mean that the deck could be less keyboard-focused and more focused on more space for protection/ventilation/power.


 No.34787

>>34763

this is spam. someone with javascript enabled please report.


 No.35023

>>32163

Smelly dumb newfag scum.


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 No.38233

>>32620

No no. Look at it. It's literally a helmet worn on the front of his face.

You can find old kevlar helmets from milsurp shops online for like 100bucks.

Figure out a way to rig a vr phone into it and you could make that pretty schway.


 No.38271

>>28718

>2012


 No.41589

https://imgur.com/a/Y4iLt

Raspberry Pi deck.

You could make these pretty tiny if you combined it with a one-hand keyboard, Rift or a >9000 monocle for a display, and put most of the RAM on the cloud…


 No.41594

>>28829

>>28833

>>32620

>>38233

I don't think that's supposed to be an old kevlar helmet. It's covered in what are presumably sensors.


 No.41599

>>41589

>put most of the RAM on the cloud…

u wot m8. That's now how RAM works. It's a cache for virtual memory. Tying it to the network would make it slow as balls.


 No.41626

>>41589

wait, is that a notebook keyboard?

How do you connect it to rpi?


 No.45485

>>32153

Ah, I remember this guy. He made a 2nd version with directions on /diy/


 No.45486

>>28718

I just realized that photo is recursive.


 No.45501

If you have the brouzouf you can work something easily off the ODroid UX4. Makes the Raspberry Pi look like an 87 Honda.


 No.45511

>>45501

I still want one of those chinese monocle displays.


 No.45514

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>>28736

I had a phone like that back in 2000.

>pic related


 No.45525

>>45514

Oh shit, I had that too.


 No.45555

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>>45525

I never grokked predictive text on candybar or clam phones. Still can't. Though I use swiftkey on my Android these days. ALWAYS went for full QWERTY phones. I had a 5510 too once.

Hell, I had a Sharp Zaurus with custom rom for wardriving back in 2003-2004. THAT was cool.


 No.45556

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>>45555

>pic related

Dead tech now though.


 No.45576

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>>45555

Checked!


 No.45624

>>28567

>ignition

pretty sure we're talking bicycle here. low cost, quiet, easier to stash, no license/tax.


 No.45625

Can we have some tech that is 2000+ and NOT a disaster waiting to happen?

Then again that might be a troublesome category…


 No.46350

File: 99e40b5423ed6c8⋯.jpg (959.67 KB, 1202x1346, 601:673, 04937c8c-74c8-40e9-b9d4-cc….jpg)

DIY Punk Cyber-headphones


 No.47650

zsfvf Fszv fSD faFa F


 No.47655

>>45625

>>46350 didn't listen


 No.47656

>>45556

Schway as fuck. Do those things really don't exist no more?


 No.47658

>>47655

He's listening … to the future!


 No.47662

>>28747

just shave or wax your arms then lol


 No.47706

>>32170

>>35023

You don't have to know much about technology to like/be cyberpunk. There was a poll on the r/Cyberpunk subreddit asking users how good they were with computers and the majority of fans were there for the aesthetic and mood of cyberpunk, not the in-depth technological aspect. Even William Gibson is actually pretty poor with computers, he writes his books on a typewriter.


 No.47707

>>47706

But in-universe his characters were all technically apt.

Similarly, in-universe, we should be technically apt. Go learn.


 No.47732

>>47706

Oh, well if /r/Cyberpunk, the biggest shithole on the internet, says so …


 No.47734

Imagine turning the old powerglove into a portable computer, That'll look nice and I suppose it'll hold some function to it.

Most likely already been done though.


 No.47735

>>47734

I don't think anyone has made it into an actual portable computer … yet. There have been several projects to turn it into different, much better, controllers.

If you wanted to make it into a computer, I imagine a Pi-zero, or similar SBC for around $10 could be used. it wouldn't be very hard.

Where would you mount the screen? Maybe it should run up a cable to a pair of glasses and use a micro-display, like old Cyberpunk drawings.


 No.47741

>>47735

Yeah that isn't a bad idea actually, When I find some time I'll give something of the sort a shot, Will create a thread if I succeed.


 No.47749

>>47741

Create a thread with drawings, and update it as you make progress. This place could use someone actually doing something.


 No.47880

I've been wondering about tablets. While they have little in the way of attachments, they seem powerful enough by themselves. Wifi scanner, onboard battery, outlet rechargable. It's basically wearable tech, or can be carried in a binder. But what I'm wondering is about "what ELSE can it do?" If the Power Pwn can fit on a Power Pwn, then it's software set should be able to bit on a tablet. When there's nobody to ask, then it's up to yourself to see what on the other side of someone's system. Just harmlessly, mind you.


 No.47898

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>>47732

I just went there to see what's new, and they had a thread about a female android concept made for Hyundai, and all 140 comments were just jokes and nervous laughter about sex robots.


 No.47901

>>47880

Making a tablet into a useful computer would be huge just on its own. Slashdot for example is always losing its shit over them being content delivery devices instead of tools. Provide a new means of input that can actually compete with a physical keyboard and you just invented the new age of computing.


 No.47902

>>47901

You don't need better input devices, you need better utilization of existing ones.

The problem with tablets is entirely in programming.

But both major players on the market are more interested in selling you shovelware through their app stores than making usable devices, and everyone else is trying to ape their business model without thinking.


 No.47916

>>47902

I thought someone might say something like this. Android and iOS suck, but even if you installed a Linux-like OS on a phone, there's nothing that makes it worth using vs. a laptop. Lugging around a portable keyboard and propping your phone up against your leg to program doesn't strike me as easier or better than just bringing a laptop.


 No.47917

>>47916

I believe it is possible to make touch screen interfaces work, we just need a paradigm shift or something.

Installing linux is just a first step on a long path towards it.




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