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“Cyberspace. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by billions of legitimate operators, in every nation.”

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Useful Websites

8chan (Unofficial) /cyber/ Steam Group:

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/8chancyber

Repository for various /cyber/ related content:

http://jinteki.industries

FAQ

>What is cyberpunk?

Cyberpunk is a subgenre of science fiction in a future setting, noted for its focus on "high tech and low life". It features advanced science, such as information technology and cybernetics, coupled with a degree of breakdown or radical change in the social order. - wikipedia

>What is /cyber/?

/cyber/ is a board on 8chan devoted to the Cyberpunk genre, setting, and ethos.

>I want to post "x". Is "x" cyberpunk?

Lurk for a bit and ask yourself if you think users here would like it.

>What are the specifications for banners and flags?

banners should be 300x100 png or gif. file limit must not exceed 750kb

flags must be 20x11 png. Flags should be clean and legible on a dark background.

>I want to contact the Oyabun!

I can be reached at monoelain @ tfwno.gf.

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Oh boy.

Sounds like Jinteki's friend is hosting a GNU Social website with a great userbase of 2 undertale fans!

Such a great usage of their servers, but when are they going to grab the server rack and drop it on their heads?




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 No.46626[Reply]

Does cyberpunk have to be dystopian or can it be antiutopian?

I've recently heard people claiming that Psycho-Pass is not cyberpunk, because the society in it isn't actually dystopian.

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 No.46723

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>>46658

Meh. The second season was weaker than the first.

Every time I see a Maxim 9 I remember the first season.

IMHO Psycho-PASS was pretty good. Maybe not classic. Maybe formulaic. But watchable.

If you idealize cyberpunk, you end up saying every piece of fiction that tries to be cyberpunk is crap, except for some small sacred list - probably starting and ending with Neuromancer.

Or you could just go reductionist and say all fiction is crap.


 No.46724

>>46723

for the most part psycho-pass hits alot of points towards it being cyber punk but its missing a heavy dose of

low life

that and the music score was a heaping pile of trash that did not fit AT ALL with the show

i watched only the first season and hated it by the end

lain, gits and bubblegum crisis 2040 are the anime that id say without a doubt being cyberpunk


 No.46727

>>46723

> If you idealize cyberpunk, you end up saying every piece of fiction that tries to be cyberpunk is crap, except for some small sacred list - probably starting and ending with Neuromancer.

it has nothing to do with cyberpunk, psychoshit is just shit as a standalone work, as a cyberpunk work, as everything really, it's just terrible.


 No.46743

>>46724

>missing low life

nigger, half the cops are ex-cons/people who would be executed in their own system if they weren't the cops

>captcha HKgun lolol


 No.46777

>>46627

>>46628

>Ghost in the Shell

>Not dystopian

nigga what?




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 No.46436[Reply]

Alright, /cyber/fucks, what kind of low cost bullshit do you do to spice up your wageslave lives with a touch of wannabe schway? I went all out, clearly. Ever so carefully taped printouts of stuff found here, and a few thrift store trips to nab blankets, pillows, and a TV to put under my elevated bed with my old PS2.

Give me your best/worst, chummers. Let's inspire eachother and our low-effort comrades.

(I've also got another TV with no input switch. Five brouzouf if anyone wants that piece of drek)

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>>46732

knit yourself a jacket, or make a rug.

>pic not related


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>>46734

>I wouldn't rob a dude thinking about killing himself, just rude)

top lel

>>46736

weird. reminds me of these shamfur disprays


 No.46741

>>46740

those hipsters are appropriating muh culture..!


 No.46746

>>46741

Maybe a gaymer would be triggered, but it doesn't bother my /cyber/ sensibilities. It just looks stupid.


 No.46776

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Minimalism and a small color pallet

Buy second hand or in sales

Be frugal

Use a straight razor or safety razor

Food prep, make all your meals and store them in fridge/freezer

Only buy what you need/will add something to your life




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 No.46540[Reply]

So much cyberpunk stuff seems to take place in cities. How'd things be going in rural areas?

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 No.46657

>>46544

I hope you starve to death when the system goes through a huge tilt.

I hope you lie, weak and more pathetic than you are now, consumed by your own body, as healthy and able Cletus prowls the empty city streets search for some scrap materials and some circuitry which wasn't fried.

He looks at you with pity mixed with disgust, as he knows you can't be helped

He adapted and survived, while you were blinded by your hate and false sense of superiority


 No.46689

Out where I live you already have cars, trucks, everything bristling with technology.

Tracks have several radios, HF, Satellite Packet, Trunking Networks, UHF local comms, mobile phone repeaters, the works.

The vehicles have computers that monitor everything from the temp of the water, the oil pressure to if the driver is tired.

Cyberpunk in Rural areas will look the same, just more advanced tech. As connectivity rises I imagine hidden server farms, data dumps and illegal internet activities. Just like with the drug trade now.

If its undesirable for the city as it will be around people, it will be in the rural areas.


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>>46544

>progressive namefag promoting UBI and shitting on "close-minded" rural people

ABSOLUTELY SHAZBOT


 No.46700

>>46544

>As the world pushes further into an eco-friendly green era

How many centuries before we start seeing even the slightest evidence that this is in the horizon?

Because, as it is, we're destroying nature more and more every year.


 No.46775

>>46549

I'd wager something like this would happen. Cities would have the most interesting and financial power to keep living standards up to some degree of "habitable" while smaller towns can't even hire lawyers to defend them, and since they don't represent that many people, even politically they don't matter.

Pollution and desertification would literally destroy everything not part of a city, where atmosphere can be controlled to some degree.

>>46548

Then again, this is also an interesting point. Big industries require a lot of people, which leads them to mass together but automation sorta solves that "problem". I still don't think that will work since people will just change jobs and industry staying close together does help them to some degree, plus the service industry is still a thing and it will favour big cities with monuments and landmarks to visit.

>>46555

>you can't be cyberpunk and a liberal at the same time

You can't fight against the interests of millionaire global corporations that want to control you by any means and hold the political belief that every man should be free to do live his life as he pleases as long as he isn't violating the rights of anyone else?

You do know that the opposite of "liberal" is authoritative, right?




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Help me understand why Blade Runner i held in such high praises, please. I watched it recently and there are a few points that I question "why would someone even consider this to be good?". Overall, it seems like a decent movie but I can't see anything there to make it stand the test of time at all, other than possibly having little competition in it's particular genre.

On the contrary, I actually got irked by a lot of details in it's world and how the story was told, the kind of details I'd expect fans of cyberpunk to really have a problem with.

I've told that, in terms of cinematography it's a very well shot movie and the visuals are amazing for it's characterization of the world and the characters. I'll agree here and this is definitely a good enough reason to see the movie, but this doesn't make up for these 2 problems:

1-Replicants make no sense in any way

Replicants seem to be biological to a great degree, considering they can bleed and the whole "rapid degradation" part of the plot, plus their need to eat or drink.

But this places them closer to synthetic humans than machines, despite being treated by the movie was androids. The ethics here are entirely different but the distinction isn't ever made properly.

Machines can indeed be treated as machines, they lack actual sentience.

Clones or synthetic humans are indeed humans and it's morally and ethically wrong to handle them like machines.

And yet, despite refering to Replicants as machines the whole movie, it seems that the idea is to think of them like synthetic humans instead, which makes little to no sense.

Even if they were handled as cyborgs, that's still an enhanced human and therefore still can't be handled as a machine.

Then there's the "implanted memory" bits. If there's the ability to implant fake memories in Replicants, what does this mean for their brain? Is it organic or synthetic? If its organic, the same technology could be used to implant memories in humans but this doesn't seem to be even considered in the movie, but if their brains are synthetic,Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.46766

>>46763

Le-you didn't read the post did you sad-sack, may.


 No.46767

>>46764

There is consistency in the androids freaking out seemingly for no reason, from the first to the last.

They stay under cover for as long as possible, not revealing any emotion until they know they have no choice and attack.

This is also in the book, which has quite a different tone and a lot of subplots, check it out for a more interesting story with far less action. It also has more political and moral questions than the film.

The film isn't perfect, but it is just a film. The line by Roy Batty in the end was supposedly come up with by the actor, the night before.

They don't really fit with the rest or the film, they barely mention the colony planets.

Very little is directly stated in the film, less is answered - quite a bit is shown by emotion or lack of it.

Mostly it is a film noir style with the basic plot from the book, nice music and visuals.

It succeeds at the emotional part, and I think that carries the point.


 No.46768

>>46762

To expand a bit, in the book - as a separate example, not that it is required reading, they give further situations where the androids are known to be totally normal and flip out suddenly.

Spoiler for the book:

Deckard is in the hovercar with a cop he was meeting, he talks to him and realises it is an imposter.

He states it openly, the android remains utterly calm. Talks about it matter of factly.

Tries to shoot Deckard with a laser, which doesn't work inside the hovercar due to a safety feature.

The android just asks Deckard "why won't it work?" - after having tried to kill him.

Deckard explains the dampened.

Android replies "then I guess I'll just have to break your pencil neck".

So, calm and hidden, revealed and no change, attempts to murder while still calm, can't and just continues as normal, then violent rage.

It seems to be how these replicants are.

Not understandable by human terms, odd in that appear so human, fool us, but are completely alien and unpredictable.


 No.46769

>>46766

>It does allow the viewer to think though. If that's a negative thing for you, avoid such films if you can.

Absolutely shazz


 No.46774

>>46767

>There is consistency in the androids freaking out seemingly for no reason

That's true for pretty much all of them but the first one. Deckard was just asking questions, and although he suspected her heavily and she might know it, he didn't tried anything at all, she shoved him against a wall out of nowhere.

>It also has more political and moral questions than the film.

Definetely gonna read it then, hopefully it's not as disapinting.

>It succeeds at the emotional part, and I think that carries the point.

How can it succeed and how can it carry the point if it never tries to make a point to begin with?

Like you said, they never show the colonies, barely mention them, almost nothing is stated about the Replicants with the introductory text being the most info you get and no care ever asks anything except for "did you ever retire a human by mistake?" or "did you ever took the test yourself?". That's as far as it goes in terms of "making a point".

>>46768

That's far better than anything else in the movie, TBH. Still have a problem with the movie talking about them as if they are machines when fundamentally their body is still organic and so is their brain.

But that's still not what I meant. Usually for stories like this, a few examples of synthetics living a regular life without flipping their shit are shown briefly before being shot by someone with Deckard's job, arguing that they can't take the risk.

It's a bit of a cliche but the idea is to make it plausible that maybe there's no need to kill them, that we could cohexist and we're kinda being assholes here.

Not presenting a similar situation and instead just presenting them as violent psychopaths just reduces the moral quandaries to self-defense. Of course you shoot them, thePost too long. Click here to view the full text.




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 No.46110[Reply]

Daily reminder.

8chan is no longer an open source project.

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>>46338

Yeah I figured, KR2000 would be more utopian, considering guns are derezzed and criminals get cryogenically "jailed"


 No.46342

>>46330

It's gonna take more than that for me to trust you, John. Sorry, but try harder.


 No.46365

>>46338

He's also wearing reebook shoes.


 No.46771

It is open source you shitheads


 No.46772

Here the repo u fuck as dumb retards

See /sudo/ yourself you retarded memejunkies

https://github.com/OpenIB/OpenIB




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>>46704

Are you going to keep it updated? If so, you should add cyberpunked.org and lainchan.jp/cyb/. I would scan for broken links as well.


 No.46707

>>46706

We should probably add your mirror and cyberpunked.org to the board sticky as well.


 No.46708

>>46600

>You all understand that cyberpunk is supposed to be a resistance movement, right?

Says who?

That statement sounds very similar to "Cyberpunk is left wing because of baddie Megacorps" or "Cyberpunk is right wing because is depicts the degeneration of society" both of which aren't in the least bit true because Cyberpunk is just a science fiction sub-genre.

This is something that can actually be said with some modicum of certainty because the first uses of the word Cyberpunk were to describe books like Neuromancer. Also note the "Punk" in Cyberpunk. Punk is the word used to describe a sub-genre of rock music. Punk rock bands are usually aggressive, loud and crude but, cannot be called left wing, right wing, authoritarian or anti-authoritarian. Take for example Nazi Punks. They are right wing and authoritarian but, still Punks.

In short Cyberpunk is a literary movement, a mood, an aesthetic or even an ideal but it is not a social movement. If you want a social movement based around the technological near future you might try Transhumanism or Crypto-Anarchism. Furthermore it is not a resistance movement. To be a resistance movement would require some kind of organization or cause. Cyberpunk provides neither of these things. If you want a resistance movement you might try WikiLeaks or Anonymous.

I would actually like to live in a Cyberpunk dystopia. If I could choose a fictional universe to live in, I would probably choose the Sprawl Trilogy, SEL, Blade Runner or GitS.


 No.46747

>>46708

>I would actually like to live in a Cyberpunk dystopia. If I could choose a fictional universe to live in, I would probably choose the Sprawl Trilogy, SEL, Blade Runner or GitS.

We already live in the cyberpunk dystopia of SEL. (Though I'd probably dispute the "dystopia" bit, but that's another debate.)

Leaving aside all the pseudomystical stuff, the only significant difference between the real world of 1998 (when SEL was first broadcast on TV) and the fictional SEL world is that everyone (even middle-school kids) has 24/7 internet-connected gadgets that fit in a pocket, and that those devices don't require any sort of formal technical training. A big chunk of the plot is about the consequences of that capability.

Everything "realistic" about the SEL world has already come to pass.


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>>46597

"Anything that can be done to a rat can be done to a human being."

As technology progresses that quote only becomes more and more horrifying. I am not looking forward to the future.




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 No.46744[Reply]

As someone who lacks the skill of programming, coding, and any of that are the Cyberpunk type work that can be done that is just as Schway? I was thinking PMC work as my time in the military is soon to come to a close, and I seem to lack a lot of the skills most people require in the increasingly digitized world? Is being a PMC cyberpunk? Sorry if this is confusing or sounds stupid just finding it hard how best to explain what I mean.

 No.46748

>>46744

Just become a manual labor wageslave. That's pretty cyber.


 No.46750

Musician maybe? Not very feasible though for most. You could count marketing if you wanna be on the "side" of the cooperations. Also there are jobs working with electronics that don't involve much programing. Bike courier could be kinda /cyber/. Really anything can be cyberpunk depending on how you approach it, for example in the comic Drugs and Wires the main character is /cyber/ as fuck and he's a removal guy.


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>>46750

I'm not a fan of the corporations, but I'd like a job I can keep fighting but also not be with the corporations. Maybe help train normal people or something, or provide security for a much more /cyber/ group.




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 No.33591[Reply]

Since theres a lot of doom and gloom about the low PPH on /cyber/, I'll contribute stuff about my videogame. (This is the hacking sim/strategy game, not the point and click adventure, which is >>26172)

Theres two modes to it, one being the command line hacking aspect, and the other being a city view where you direct your agents to different locations to perform different actions. Thats one thing I liked about Hacker Evolution, it gave a distinct sense of 'place', where your level was rooted clearly in some physical part of the world, like an office building or intersection, or more broadly a city.

>Why start this thread?

I'm hoping to harvest some of the passion /cyber/ has for this kind of thing. Story-wise, I lean towards a lot of the themes present in cyberpunk, such as corruption, haves vs. have-nots, and tech knowledge opening up doors that most people don't know about. But its more like this game brushes up against a lot of /cyber/ themes, rather than this being Cyberpunk: The Game.

Currently I'm focusing on programming the world views, systems, and content creation tools. There isn't really any content yet. Halfchan agdg has a demo day on Nov 8th, so I'm trying to have something for that. Until then, anon has made some schway music for the game, only one of them is on their soundcloud though:

https://soundcloud.com/strohfielt-1/surveillance

As for playable versions, I dont want to put up something boring and give a bad first impression, but when I do it'll go on vestigial.itch.io

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 No.46729

Nice. Those games look like they're coming along pretty well.


 No.46735

>>46729

Thanks friendo

Here are some more keys if anyone wants, they won't let you override the release date, but they're still free for my /cyber/ chummers

ZNGRN(-)QWBD5(-)AQ40R

E35Y6(-)7QMAH(-)ARDGB

HWD96(-)55J78(-)LJXWC

49FNY(-)0PJJ0(-)24PP2

Please don't sell them, even though it'd be the cyberpunk thing to do.


 No.46737

>>46735

Based, took 49FNY(-)0PJJ0(-)24PP2


 No.46738

>>46737

Didn't want to use a trip wtf


 No.46745

>>46735

>E35Y6(-)7QMAH(-)ARDGB

Got this key. Thanks anon!




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 No.32671[Reply]

post some good synth music shazbots

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 No.46613

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Slipping into goth territory with this one, but the drum machine fits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VuzkzlqP9A


 No.46614

One more. Can't embed for some reason.

https://youtu.be/hRzzF-WObYE?t=8m30s


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 No.46205[Reply]

title

i live about ~30 north of chicago. cyberculture is essentially non-existent

how find?

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 No.46661

Actually learn to hack. They'll find you.


 No.46691

>tfw no qt3.14 /cyber/ gf

might as well just kill myself now tbh


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>>46691

JDIMSA


 No.46722

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>>46205

>cyberculture is essentially non-existent

I have friends who love cyberpunk fiction but they can barely string two lines of code together.

Are they cyberpunks? I doubt it.

I have some technical skills, and I am familiar with cyberpunk fiction, but I am not a heavy hitter. I don't go to DEFCON.

If you want meatspace friends, try getting a job in the computer and network security business. You'll meet a lot of guys who deserve the title cyberpunk. They probably won't make good friends, but you'll be less lonely.


 No.46728

>>46722

>implying cyberpunk == code-bashing console jockey




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 No.21376[Reply]

Post 'em, fuckos.

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Ingot Rider. About one one man and his car, who can make a difference.


 No.46713

>rice

a verb

hahahahahaha!!!!11!!

I'm getting too old for this shit.


 No.46714

>>46712

windows pleb

have fun gettn your data locked


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 No.46720

>>46714

>implying GTA V, BeamNG 'n shit run on Loonix




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 No.15734[Reply]

Maybe we can even get one of those charts going, although I'm sure there's quite a few floating around. If you have one saved, please post it!
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 No.46687

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Are there any chemistry/drug based Cyberpunk fictions?

I see Deus Ex as very mechanical/biologically-based, and Neuromancer or Blade Runner, etc as computer/robot based (with other influences). But I haven't seen anything that is based around drugs/chemistry the way, for instance, Limitless is.


 No.46688

>>15802

>quality>quantity

>being at the top 25 is not important.

Do you still feel the same way?


 No.46709

>>46687

Limitless was based on a novel called The Dark Corridors if I'm not mistaken

Brave New World and the Doors of Perception by Huxley also come into mind regarding Chemical stuff


 No.46717

>>46709

>The Dark Corridors

>Doors of Perception

I'll look into them. I'm familiar with BNW, but never thought it was associated with cyberpunk.


 No.46718

>>46709

>>46717

Dark Fields. Corridors looks like a Japanese game.




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 No.46648[Reply]

Thoughts?

Looks too clean to me. Will likely ape on the success of Star Wars and be more of an action movie than a "what is human" cyberpunk-noir film.

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>>46648

Meh. Will be full with leftist SJW propaganda. Stronk wymyn and shit.

Fuck Hollywood.


 No.46674

>>46667

The trailer was visually impressive and I liked the music. I think it will at least do a decent job of capturing the first movie's atmosphere, and the Mars scenes gave me EYE-ish vibes. That being said I do have 3 major problems with it:

1. Gosling can't act for shit

2. It seems like they're retconning the "Deckard is a replicant" story, or they're going to hamfistedly explain it away in order to justify having Harrison Ford in it

3. Echoing what >>46672 said, I'm detecting a lot of leftist nonsense under the hood (e.g. bullshit like "Every civilization was built on the back of a disposable workforce"; implying an inherent association between security/order/borders with authoritarianism or oppression; the words "Soviet" and "Happy" literally appearing next to each other in an advertisement; etc.)

I expect it to be a visually compelling movie with a good OST, but I doubt it will carry the intellectual weight of its predecessor.


 No.46690

>>46674

>2. It seems like they're retconning the "Deckard is a replicant" story, or they're going to hamfistedly explain it away in order to justify having Harrison Ford in it

I'm still trying to figure out how they convinced Ford to be in it at all. He doesn't need the money, and by all accounts he disliked his time in the original production.


 No.46702

>>46690

Maybe he's bored. Maybe he just wants to do something before he dies.


 No.46703

>>46674

>the Mars scenes

Mars? Why do you call it Mars?




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