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“The mind commands the body and it obeys. The mind orders itself and meets resistance.”

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 No.7623[Reply]

Since the board got formatted or something, time to reboot the 2020 game thread.

>What's this about?

Since late November, an IRC game of cyberpunk 2020 has been going on #nightcity on Rizon. We are using the Second Edition Rules.

>Can I join the fun?

Contact me either here or by email

>When do you play?

There is currently a game running Mondays at 20:00 GMT, but there is always the possibility of starting new/upcoming games on other schedules.

>I don't know how to play!

After less than a month, the players have gotten very knowledgeable about the rules, so you can ask in this thread and someone is bound to help you to get things started.
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 No.36529

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I am hosting a Bladerunner style Cyberpunk 2020 game on roll20. If anyone is interested, please send a request to this link: https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/34730/cyberpunk-2020-los-angeles

If you have any questions, post below or message my roll20 account.

Thanks


 No.38698

Fantastic analysis . BTW if others want a IRS 1023 , my husband saw a template version here http://pdf.ac/1DLGq8


 No.40928

>>35119

I hate it when that happens.


 No.42719

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>>35119

Things move along but I've never forgotten, chummer.


 No.45341

Is this still going on? I see that the IRC is still up.




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 No.36611[Reply]

So I'm about to be homeless. I'm in Europe. No family, no friends, nowhere to go really.

What is the most schway manner I can live my life?

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 No.45227

>>45224

I think the point of the info (or really most things) is to absorb it and only salvage what you consider valuable to you. Youre right and some of the doc made me cringe pretty hard but someone probably enjoyed it a bunch lel

>"Just do whatever works lol"

honestly though great advice.

If jazz taught me anything it's that people will praise the hell out of you if you're good at improvisation that night, no matter how well versed you are or how out of tune you were the last jam. Just delve into Chaos and do whatever keeps you afloat until you can make it look like Order.

Not saying that being homeless is all fun and games but seriously I really enjoy it at times. I honestly do like learning from and manipulating other people, and you're effectively thrust into the world and forced to invert a lot of what you've learned about your social structures to survive

Protip recall every stealth tactic you've learned through any type of media and you'll have a better time. From stealing food to evading hotel security. Just dont be an idiot like me and get caught sleeping in the Ballroom like i did this morning


 No.45234

>>44864

I think that is the joke. Since cops seems to love arresting him for shit that he didn't do, he might as well go profitably illegal.


 No.45241

>>45234

This pretty much.

I dunno about that dude but I grew up relatively innocent yet people liked to be really accusatory and impose their corrupt worldviews onto me. Now i sell drugs


 No.45292

File: 10c532b6b18608b⋯.pdf (6.86 MB, [Marc_Animal_MacYoung]_Str….pdf)

File: c33d62050b5c01b⋯.pdf (2.39 MB, Arrest Proof Yourself.pdf)

File: 75b65f99a9abf0a⋯.pdf (474.29 KB, StealThisBook.pdf)


 No.45322

>>36759

asking all the real hard hitting questions




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 No.14243[Reply]

We have a webm thread, how about a cyberpunk gif thread? Posting what I have. Bonus points if it loops seamlessly.
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 No.45226

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 No.45228

>>45198

The first 3 are from the 2nd Patlabor (anime) movie, the 4th is from short film which title I can't remember. I think I have the last one, but I'm not sure from where, obviously an anime (maybe Patlabor too?).

>>45225

What do those gifs have to do with DBZ?


 No.45231

>>45228

the hand is from the DBZ intro

>chala hed chala!

You don't seem to have had a childhood


 No.45233

>>45199

#1 is from GITS '95.


 No.45293

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 No.45207[Reply]

Ok, so how would you go about making a smartphone schway? I'm talking avoiding tracking/data collection apps, maximizing battery life, minimizing parasitic battery and data usage drain. Installing the most schway apps that enable "quick hacking" like getting into facebook accounts, viewing CCTV footage (Watch Dogs 2 mode, basically, but realistic), etc etc. Apps that let you find freelance ways of making brouzouf in your area, or other "off the radar" apps that most people may not know about but reveal all sorts of info regarding your area. Crime tracking apps, police scanner stuff. Apps that get you off "their" grid, help hide your phone or prevent you from being found out if you were messing around on, say a school's wifi.

I'm looking for stuff that DOES NOT require root. This is because I believe rooting your phone can open you up to far worse intrusion than running unrooted, OR it can cause fatal errors that a casual user would not be able to overcome. If I'm wrong about this, please educate me.

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 No.45269

>>45249

cmod's default messaging apps and such are made by google tho


 No.45273

>>45264

> use this Russian app that rolls its own obscure encryption and transmits to proprietary servers running closed source code

That sounds like a wonderful idea. WhatsApp, even though it's part of Facebook, literally does a better job than this piece of shit pseudo secure botnet built by math graduates with no knowledge of data security whatsoever.

And before you start arguing with that hack-our-security prize they have: that shit is rigged. Several weaknesses have been pointed out but they have some conditions that basically rules out any form of legitimate participation.

Better go for something secure and open source instead. Bonus points for having your own server.


 No.45277

>>45269

All of Android is made by google tho.

I suppose you could send encrypted SMS and encrypted VOIP, both of which are possible with apps available on fdroid. The problem however, is the same reason I don't use encryption over e-mail, because I want to be contactable but I can't convince others to use encryption. I just have a phone for talking to normie dipshits, but I don't send private information over non secure methods. That said, I still don't use proprietary software because I don't like being spied upon.


 No.45279

Don't forget about a built in voice scrambler that randomizes on every call so speaker recognition systems wouldn't be able to link your calls or link with outside voice data, like a video on youtube or microphones set up in the public.


 No.45290

I've heard that the app that's supposed to let you track police lets them track you, lol.

I'm interested in Redlaser, the app that reads barcodes, and the app that detects hidden cameras.




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 No.43625[Reply]

Why is there a cyber genocide?

lainchan cyb was shut down. It was the best (if slowest) cyb communities.

jinteki.industries also dead

Everything seems to be dead except this board, which is being overrun with "hello, fellow cyberpunkers, how can I act more cyberpunk in real life" crap posts.

Is cyberpunk dead for real now?

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 No.46024

File: fa3267e6f272b2b⋯.png (91.03 KB, 1070x865, 214:173, good_job.png)

>IIS

Shit nigger, what are you doing?


 No.46035

>>45956

If that's not a /cyber/ genocide, at least it's a /cyber/ butchery

RIP cyberpunk


 No.46073

>>46024

Part of the goal was to learn my way around wangblows server better, since it will eternally reign in SMB. When I'm less lazy (and less busy) I'll get around to setting it up on a nix box at some point, probably when I transition fully over to loonix on the desktop.

I'm pretty sure bindings are fucked if you're getting that, I think it's only serving to jinteki.industries. I don't have www set up. I'll do a wildcard bind for now.


 No.46074

>>46073

Fix'd. Wasn't bindings, the site had stopped entirely in favor of the default demo site that I never bothered removing. No idea why. Killed demo site, set wildcard bindings.

But you should still commit sudoku if you're unironically using www. in [current year]


 No.48357

bixing fread




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 No.42791[Reply]

I don't really know how to introduce this other than to say, "here's a terabyte of space for you to put all things cyber. Can be images, music, porn, anything at all.

Goes without saying.. keep it legal.

Also, sure, you can delete everything everyone has uploaded and be a dick about it.. but why would you?

The server I set up isn't super reliable, it's some shitty p4 system and a load of drives I acquired over time. But y'know. High tech low life and all.

Address: home.lemind.co.uk

user: cyber

(no pass)

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 No.45146

>>45140

added a couple of epubs.


 No.45152

>>44505

>>45076

Don't forget De Bruijn.


 No.45154

>>45140

Thanks bruv.


 No.45192

>>45140

Added some music.


 No.45252

~$ ftp home.lemind.co.uk

ftp: connect: No route to host

ftp> ls

Not connected.

~$ ftp home.lemind.co.uk

ftp: connect: Connection timed out

ftp> ls

Not connected.

What i can do with it?




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 No.32199[Reply]

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 No.45082

File: a70626b6e9d5586⋯.webm (11.78 MB, 540x360, 3:2, Pink Floyd - Welcome to t….webm)

WHAT DID YOU DREAM?

IT'S ALRIGHT WE TOLD YOU WHAT TO DREAM!


 No.45219

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 No.45704

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Atari Teenage Riot is pretty fucking /cyber//. I'm honestly surprised they haven't been posted in this thread yet.

https://youtu.be/EvnHn6S0FMo

https://youtu.be/U0u-OB7ztMg

https://youtu.be/m7-lYqq05l4

Also, Merzbow because why the fuck not: https://youtu.be/AguPH0XBxdw

And here's a healthy dose of 2 8 1 4 to top it all off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9L4q-0Pi4E

All of these links are pretty fucking /cyber/, actually.


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 No.45727

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anything but weeknd




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 No.21139[Reply]

So i found a site that lets you do some cool stuff to an image.

www.getmosh.io

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 No.45049

File: 968098ac37e0fb9⋯.png (7.21 MB, 2016x1512, 4:3, 2_1_low.png)

this one is probably my favorite, unfortunately had to bump the size down a bit


 No.45094

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 No.45184

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I like this thread


 No.45189

>>45047

>

>

>a couple self shots too

>>8713973


 No.45190

>>45189

>>>/pol/8713973




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 No.43754[Reply]

https://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/40-of-young-japanese-single-adults-are-virgins-poll

According to a recent pole, 42% of young Japanese single adults (men and women) between 18 and 34 (!) are virgins.

“They want to tie the knot eventually,” he told the Japan Times. “But they tend to put it off as they have gaps between their ideals and the reality,”

Does that mean that japanese young adult are in fact so much "virtualised"; I mean that the part of their life being into culture and internet is so huge that it's heavily conducting their behavior in the "real" life? In more concrete word, do they prefer to consume pornography, a false, unreal but immediate reward free of any heavy work than founding a home and having kids?

That's a little bite of a paradox; more sexuality would normally conduct to create more sexual interaction; but Japan show that the function governing this presents a valley; a valley after which you just stop having sexual intercourse and any relation with the opposite sex in favor of a deep individualism and lonely pleasure.

Moreover, a lot of people don't live their life at all; preferring to work so hard they just cannot raise children and pursue their carrier at the same time. Does that mean that they are marrying themselves to their jobs? to the big capital? How could anyone live like that?

Because we tend to forget that not having kids mean no more heritage (even if google have cryogenised the egg of their biggest woman workers, what a thing…).

Is that the future glowing into the dark? A future when we chose to have no progeny, no family, to the benefit of something such irrelevant as a carrier? as more money? I don't want that. I will never. I'm not the servant of the big capital.

I'm not a communist (suppressing private ownership is absurd), but some of them have described the hyper capitalistic world very well: "An employee is worst than a slave because when a slave is bought only once, an employee have to make himself bought each second".

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 No.45779

>>45127

Yes because blonde hair and blue eyes are totally not white-exclusive features.


 No.45780

>>45127

Nah, they look pretty white to me. Look at their big eyes.


 No.45797

>>45779

And what happens when a Japanese woman cosplays a Western character with blonde hair and blue eyes? She totally passes for white? OF COURSE NOT, YOU FUCKING RETARD. And tell me, what race has exclusive rights to purple eyes or green hair? Are those white features too? Fucking end yourself you moron.

>>45780

Yes look at those unnaturally large and shaped eyes that no real person has. Then look down the barrel of a shotgun and pull the trigger.


 No.45800

>>43812

Holy shit, try not to trip so hard over your own fucking fedora my dude.


 No.45822

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

How strong are the student movements currently?




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 No.44923[Reply]

Hello everyone,

There is a transhumanism/grinding discord server:

https://discord.gg/4GdJbxN

More information about it can be found here:

https://www.transhumanism.me/transhumanism-discord-server/

Discord is a text chat and voice chat so you can actually talk with people from all over the world which is a lot of fun.

Topics are:

* Futurism

* Longevity

* Upcoming science

* The Singularity

* Food Supplements

* Implants

* Economics of the Future

* Politic Systems of the Future

* Biohacking

* Cyberpunk and Sci-Fi

etc.

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 No.45105

>>45104

Tencent is a major investor in Discord. There is simply no way in hell that a successful mainland Chinese company isn't datamining the fuck out of anything they're even remotely involved in. Mainland Chinese companies do not give two shits about privacy.


 No.45108

>Tox STILL doesn't have the new group chats implemented

JUST FUCK MY SHIT


 No.45120

>>44923

Whoring yourself to commercial exploitation where open standards exist is the antipathy of everything cyberpunk. You should be ashamed of yourself.

>>44928

What options for IRC are there? The Freenode/Esper channel is dead, #Lainchan is home to a bunch of insufferable children and I refuse to acknowledge the cancer that is #Reddit-cyberpunk.


 No.45121

>>45120

There's #/g/punk.


 No.45841

>>45120

>#Lainchan is home to a bunch of insufferable children

Not to imply I disagree, as almost every cyberpunk community is full of insufferable children, but that's absolutely a ridiculous reason to use discord. There are far more insufferable 12 year olds with their mom's-credit-card gaming PC builds on Discord.




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 No.43658[Reply]

New cyberpunk board:

http://nextchan.8ch.tech/cyber

I'm suspecting that the new "revive" of the cyberpunk movement is in fact tied to a very insidious propaganda.

The goal of this propaganda is to first mix reality and fiction to be able to associate feelings with a possible future reality (like what is done in every holywood movie). The theme of the pure domination from plutocracy is very important, and the propaganda led it into a evolutionist vision of the world. I mean that if the richest people of the earth have built a very powerful system of dominance, it's because it's somehow in the human inner nature. They are discharging them.

The second goal of the propaganda is about consumption. Making the "younger generation" alright with the presence of robot, prosthetic, computer and massive surveillance in their every day life, in every aspect of their life. The material is now a true entity, not just tools anymore. Your own phone, your companion is telling hello to you each morning. The materialism is at his highest. There are of course a lot of nowdays new company selling totally useless stuff tied to cyberpunk, but the important part is not there.

It's about human augmentation. And I think that you really, but REALLY need to consider all of the implication of what human augmentation means.

Human augmentation is a pure humanistic ideology which exist since centuries. The first ideology was about an imperfect human made by an imperfect god. Here, the human have to enhance himself to achieve its true self, the true enlightenment, immortality (not only). This first ideology was of course an ideology against god. I'm not here to say if the true anti-god essence remain in the nowdays version of this ideology (it's your job), but this is where we are. The pro-transumanist propaganda is going stronger and stronger, promising enlightenment to every one.

I personally that this transhumanist ideology, if anyhow achievable, would only benefit to the plutocrat. Saying that the little servant for the supreme financial and corporative system would be allowed to access such a thing as immortality is absurd. The funny Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.43969

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>>43906

Billy was one of the best cyborgs ever.


 No.45065

File: 3fc7bc06e92faa3⋯.png (75.09 KB, 907x925, 907:925, Untitled.png)

Well I mean, it works. But no amber theme smfh.


 No.45071

Next is still a thing? I thought the feds closed it down.


 No.45079

File: d42ed777b951876⋯.jpg (177.68 KB, 1080x1920, 9:16, 57y76aB.jpg)

The board have been updated, and I wrote a new "the true cyberpunk culture" manifesto, if I can call it so.


 No.45086

>>45079

>manifesto

Into the trash it goes.




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 No.44974[Reply]

so, has anyone of you shazbots started designing decent GUIs for VR sets? How do you imagine the perfect environment for all your /cyber/ escapades? Most of the shit I'm seeing online is just goymer tier bs.

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 No.45032

>>44980

>>45015

So basically you idiots invented Microsoft Bob but with a weighty stupid headset?


 No.45033

>>45015

>>45015

>vr web browsing

how's janusvr doing novadays?


 No.45035

>>45032

If I remember MS Bob correctly, it was just a very convoluted way to launch some standart windows programs. Stupid peace of uselessware that tries to wrap desktop absctraction in another abstraction adding nothing and taking away all usability.

>>44980 (Me) is more about throwing traditional desktop abstraction away and showing different processes OS is running and how they interconnect with each other.


 No.45073

>>45035

>>45032

Microsoft Bob's no longer /cyber/? Fuck. I'm out.


 No.45075

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>>44980

Congratulations, you just invented Neal Stephenson's "Snow Crash" Metaverse.




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 No.43722[Reply]

Hey /cyber/ I got a few investors together, and a few hackers and I are starting a cybersecurity company. We're going to do penetration testing and consulting. Help me come up with a name that is /cyber/? What would you name the security megacorp of tomorrow?

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 No.43748

>>43747

This is a bully-free board.


 No.43749

Icebreaker


 No.43769

I've Got Something to Put In You Inc.


 No.43807

Neon Fiber


 No.45064

Jinteki Industries lel




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 No.38722[Reply]

What types of places would you find cyberpunks in the wild? Bars? Net cafes? Retro arcades?

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 No.45018

>>38722

>>38794

>>38812

> /cyber/ users: 3

> cyberpunks: 6

> scriptkiddies: 10

> fbi agents: 95

but hey, you guys have fun


 No.45019

>>39115

Wooooah. Hella bump. How goes your /cyber/space?

I wouldn't say there is, honestly. Then again, I personally mostly just stick to my pals when it comes to discussing /cyber/ shit. Don't want to get caught up in the wrong shit.


 No.45020

>>44893

I don't think it is one *yet*, but if it continues at the rate it's growing, we'll likely see a literal Cyberpunk 2020, in a niche and yet existent sense.

And when it does, we'll be the oldfags of the cyberpunk community, and look down at all of the losers that weren't even around for the rise of 8ch/cyber/.


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>>38845

A L B U Q U E R Q U E

N E W M E X I C O


 No.45051

>>45020

> oldfags of the cyberpunk community

> the "rise" of 8ch/cyber/

NEWFAGNESS.

noun

The property or state of being a newfag.

examples

45020's newfagness is glaring




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 No.44874[Reply]

Is the soon to be hit film Rogue One: A Star Wars story an example of contemporary cyberpunk?

I mean it's got this gritty realistic asian culture inflected setting, computer hacking, and the Rebels are the low-life fighting against the system.

There's even a cool robot!

Alright maybe calling it cyberpunk is a bit of a stretch, I know how rigid some people can be about that, but you gotta admit it's at least a "related work"!

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 No.44969

>>44956

>Shitting on Shadowrun

hoi cunt, Shadowrun is 100% cyberpunk, and you would know had you read the slightest little bit about it. Given I don't really like some stuff, like the fact that megacorps are their own nation states rather don't get me wrong, it's still cyberpunk, I just don't like that part, I gotta say the fantastic elements are just tacked on, and don't really blend with the cyberpunk parts.

>inb4 Gibson quote to prove it's not cyberpunk

You mean the same quote in which he admits he didn't read about it? :^)


 No.44978

>>44969

The fantasy stuff completely ruins Shadowrun as a setting.

It's not even just the presence of fantasy elements. They're just used uncreatively. Magic came and turned some regular people into dwarves, elves, trolls, and orcs! Who could have possibly thought that was a good idea?

Look at the way City of Heroes treated magic. There's a gang war in the lowbie zones between the Hellions and the Skulls. The Hellions are demon worshippers, and the higher level members are given pyromancy. The Skulls, predominantly black, get their power from voodoo rituals. Or the Tsoo, who get their powers from magic tattoos and ancestor spirits. That shit's cool and unique. But just "Hey, every fifth person in the street is 7ft tall and has horns" is lazy as fuck.


 No.44984

>>44978

I'm inclined to agree that the trolls, orcs, and elves shit wasn't necessarily thought of because it was good for the setting, and more because the authors at the time thought it was cool, but still, I think you're being too harsh. In your example, I assume you think what's cool about that is there's some intrigue, it's a novel way of exploring the dynamics of magic in a modern society but Shadowrun does that too.

Orcs only live about 40 years, not only do they face prejudice for being ugly and, overall, less intelligent. But they find it hard to actually get by in a society where it takes at least a dozen years to get an education, that's a quarter of an ork's life.

In Dragonfall there's a radical 'policlub' called Humanis which sees itself as looking out for humanity's interests as a whole. One of their pieces of propaganda brings up the fact than elf who acquires a high level position in a corporation is not going to retire for a few hundred years, and that's a good fucking point.

What I'm getting to is this: if we except the thesis that cyberpunk is, first and foremost, an exploration of the conflict our society would face (along with some stylistic flair just for fun) when pitted against various forms of advancement. Mostly cybernetic but also informational and in the case of Shadowrun, even magic. Shadowrun fits the bill, it is fantastical and eclectic and there are some parts of the setting that definitely weaken it like meta-plot stuff such as the horrors. But despite how busy it is it I think it works more than it doesn't.

It's an RPG system, so it's overwrought and not as elegant as a movie or a book can be but it's a fun setting. No it's not high literature but there's substance, despite it being quite goofy at times.


 No.44992

i wanted to invite some girl i know to rouge one, i never got around to it


 No.45042

>>44992

trust me, you did the right thing

even if she had sex with you it would not be worth it




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