No.29255
When and why did clean minimalism become part of what people view as the cyberpunk aesthetic and how do we stop it?
Minimalism is for trendy shazbots
Dirt, grit, technology, clutter, actual utilitarian structure (not ugly useless minimalism) et cetera make a livingspace cyber
Pic related, real cyberpunk living spaces
No.29268
>>29255
Where are you getting this from, User?
No.29283
>>29268
That minimalism is popular among a minority? From other cyberpunk communities, not here or USENET or IRC or anything but modern surfacenet forums that I accidentally follow links to
That minimalism isn't part of cyberpunk? It isn't, even most modern cyberpunk novels and art emphasize grittyness which is why it's even more puzzling that some people find minimalism is anything but trite sterile futurism, just like skeumorphism
No.29286
>>29283
when you make a coffee…do you strain it first? like before you drink it?
No.29291
Seems to me like the term 'bare-bones' would fit cyberpunk better than 'minimalist'.
No.29293
I agree wholeheartedly OP and have seen the same trend in battlestation threads
It used to be that a battlestation was cluttered and chaotic, filthy and dilapidated; you got the distinct sense that someone lived and worked there. Now most of the ones shown are sterile tryhard art museum exhibits, like they were put together just to show others.
No.29295
>>29293
If it makes you feel any better here's my battlestation.
No.29299
>>29295
get some fluorescents, or paint your lightbulbs red for better night vision.
No.29301
>>29293
My whole room is my battlestation. I got a two gamecubes on my desk, the fucking schway Sega Nomad, a PS2, and two XBoxes. My Desk has a pretty big Tube TV on it, with a fan on top, and the desk is covered in games. As for the rest of my room, I have books on the floor, and LPs stacked on my dresser, books on a bookshelf, games too, and in my closet there's a bunch of old computers and laptops.
I would take a pic, but I don't have a camera and pictures are security risks and I'm paranoid.
No.29302
>>29301
Usually just the desk is considered part of the battlestation.
No.29303
>>29255
I agree that minimalism is bullshit. I build my environment to fit it's purpose, and it's purpose is not to have photos taken of it to post and fit in with trendies.
No.29304
>>29255
What characterizes minimalism in your mind? When I read what you said at first I was picturing your third picture.
Besides, neat-freaks would exist in any future, and there are neat-freak cultures in the world right now.
No.29306
We don't give a damn about cyber punk aesthetic, cyberpunk, before everything, is an "reflexion & action" subculture.
No.29309
>>29293
>>29295
Spent a few years scavenging for this humble setup, hoping to move onto better things soon enough. Schway or nay?
No.29311
>>29309
>Microsoft Windows
Not schway
No.29312
>>29293
>Now most of the ones shown are sterile tryhard art museum exhibits, like they were put together just to show others.
The setups on /r/battlestations/ eventually start to all look the same, and people there probably base their setups on what other people have done. These two are the most interesting ones I've seen there. They're actually used for something.
Bonus images: probably the most /cyber/ battlestation in my collection.
No.29314
>>29309
Really hope that keyboard isn't the clicky jew.
Neat little figure on the monitor tho.
No.29318
>>29312
Does anyone know where the last two pictures are from ? This setup is amazing
No.29320
>>29306
Not a very minimalist flowchart tbh
Could've done better
No.29323
>>29304
Ugly non-functional rooms owned by rich shazbots who have everything done for them and can afford to live in an art exhibit. Useless rigid furniture, overuse of white, stupid shit ideas like "everything I do I can do on my phone, no need for a computer" and "the fewer objects I possess the more modest I appear to be, despite the fact this apartment costs more in rent a month than the average person makes in a year" basically anything that's inherent in the ideas of minimalism as a philosophy and a lifestyle and as an art movement. It's a plastic aesthetic for plastic people
>>29306
I don't what train of thought you had here but that's either written to be purposefully vague or you can't write, it doesn't actually make any sense at all.
Also:
>.jpg
No.29324
>>29255
Keeping it simple is totally what cyber is about ~ amidst the chaos of the web the /cyber/punk struggles onward! Minimalism doesn't then conjure simplicity… Here is my set-up minus a turntable + my CANON 360 typewriter ^~^ apologies for the shitty res my phone is an older gen android. (I have a Toshiba T5100 on the way as well!)
No.29327
>>29324
That's clearly not minimalism as he views it, he's probably thinking of those "minimalism=life" shazbots who post on fashion sites and aren't cyber in the least.
Cyber isn't fashion conscious at all, clutter, no clutter, it doesn't matter
No.29335
blast from the past
need to have at least one CRT to make it legit
No.29338
>>29335
Now THIS is /cyber/
No.29339
>>29299
>red for better night vision
I'd always thought it'd be best to go with violet, since that is the color that human eyes are the most sensitive in low light environments?
Source?
No.29340
>>29306
>punk is about equality
"Things I made up" by anon.
No.29341
>>29309
>>29312
"Corpcucks, on MY /cyber/?"
It could be more likely than you think.
Click here to find out more.
>>>/gentoo/
No.29342
>>29341
What are you talking about?
No.29344
No.29351
>>29255
OP is a shazboot
minimalism, barebones, efficiency, and make it look cool.
No.29352
>>29255
>that feel when users don't realize OP is a shill
>users argue and agree with shill
SHAME ON YOU
No.29354
>>29312
if we're gonna start throwing subreddits around (which you ought to know is a rather unpopular thing to do around here) let's mention r/shittybattlestations , it feels 90% more cyber than r/battlestations
No.29361
>>29351
Active minimalism makes no sense. Putting in an effort to minimize the things you have (i.e. getting rid of useful tech) is the most shazbot thing imaginable, you should have dozens of computers and even more monitors crammed into your 20th floor study in a bad part of town. Nice artsy shite is for shills
No.29362
>look up cyberpunk
>no minimalism anywhere
Sure generic near future stuff emphasizes minimalism and clean energy and garbage like that but that's not cyberpunk, that's fantasy, idealism, cyberpunk is realism and is already happening
No.29377
>>29344
Again, what are you talking about?
>>29354
>LE REDDIT BOGEYMAN REEEEEEEEEEE XD
Have you ever considered suicide?
No.29381
>>29377
>have you ever considered suicide
I personally have no issue with reddit, but people here get bitchy about it for some reason. Sidenote.
No.29384
>>29255
Because having shit everywhere doesn't look cyber. It makes you look like a slob and it's embarrassing to bring people over to your room.
No.29403
It seems proper to keep living spaces multifunctional(ie having a section of wall that folds out into a desk or an extra couch or whatever) and paring down on the shit you don't need in the world seems to make sense with that. Keep your electronics, but learn to take care of yourself and keep things clean. A clean living space keeps you healthy, and that means less brouzouf spent on medical shit, and more brouzouf spent on technology. Having less clothing and clutter helps keep a living space clean. Again, less brouzouf spent on clothing and medical shit means more brouzouf spent on storage and technology.
At the same time, it seems neccessary for a living space to feel organic and lived in, while a workspace should feel a little cold and technical. Essentially, yeah, have your electronics projects and shit, but keep that stuff all in its' place. If you have a room for it, keep that mess in that room. If you don't, dedicate a corner of your apartment to it, maybe section that shit off with a partition. Whatever. If you keep some sense of organization, it allows you to get shit done.
Then again, this is coming from someone who's fucking awful at organizing anything that isn't his alcohol collection or file system.
No.29404
>>29314
Afraid to tell you it is the clicky one. I like clicks. It's clicky. I bought it.
>>29311
I've only recently taken an interest in cyberpunk and tech in general, you could say I'm still a normie, I'd agree.
Honestly I'm scared of using linux or any other OS I'm extremely comfortable with windows as it is and have no current reason to not be spied on, I honestly don't care if the FBI (etc.) knows I like women with cat ears and thigh high socks.
This said though I'm not sure about the difficulty of learning, or rather transitioning to a linux OS. If it's not too much of a hassle for me and it presents advantage i may consider. That's up to you to do though.
No.29405
>>29404
It's not hard to install the beginner distros. Just download and burn Linux Mint onto a flash drive, boot off the flash drive, and the installation is really straightforward from there. Using it isn't hard either, because on Linux Mint, or Ubuntu or the other "beginner" distros, the complex internals are all there but you don't have to use them. I reccomend at least trying it, it's a fun learning experience. Especially once you move onto things like Gentoo where you really get your hands on the internals, you completely control your computer at that point. It's awesome.
No.29406
>>29405
I will attempt it on Sunday after work. You would recommend Mint then?
No.29407
>>29406
For a beginner, yes.
No.29418
>>29384
>he has people over
Weeeew shazbot
Mostly joking but you should know there's a difference between computers and other tech laying around and pizza boxes and stray chuckles and half drank cans of cola
No.29424
>>29314
>mechanical keyboards are bad
Shazbot luser go home
No.29428
I understand what OP is trying to say, but all of his pics are unrealistic imo. If you really are High tech and low life you would have the means to repair and build tech.
This is my bedroom, complete with:
>4 computers
>basic electronic salvaging/repair tools
>4x6x8 feet of shelves dedicated to parts/tools/scrap
>a bed.
Everything piece of tech i own has either been bought broken or dumpster dived, with the exception of most of my HDDs, main pc motherboard, TV (which i inherited) and headphones.
No.29429
>>29428
with night lighting on.
No.29434
>>29428
Yeah he obviously doesn't mean that small living spaces aren't cyber or that buying a bunch of useless non-tech is, it's more an attack on insipid cyberprep, clean white shit that's becoming increasingly popular unfortunately
No.29435
>>29429
Why red? Blacklight allows for the most heightened night vision and doesn't distort colors as much and is in general more comfortable
No.29437
>>29435
Because I cant just put a bag over a few leds to make it a blacklight.
No.29441
>>29377
>Again
That was a different shazbot, but I think he meant to respond to me.
>>29342
You're using windows. You're a corpcuck.
Enjoy the indian tech support cock in your ass.
No.29442
>>29381
>for some reason
Because redditors act like >>29377 this.
No.29444
>>29441
>You're using windows. You're a corpcuck.
Tryhard kiddie. Just because you installed Ubuntu doesn't mean you're now some super hacker.
>Enjoy the indian tech support cock in your ass.
What the fuck are you talking about?
>>29442
How am I a Redditor? Even if I did post on Reddit, what difference does it make?
No.29449
>>29444
>"Even if I did post on Reddit"
Redditors are a stereotype, and you fall under that stereotype.
No.29459
>>29449
Yet you can't explain how.
No.29463
>>29323
Like that Iron Man house which gets destroyed in Iron Man 3?
No.29464
>>29463
I mean, his house minus the laboratory.
No.29465
>>29444
It's about freedom. If you use Windows, you are not free.
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
No.29470
>>29465
>The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose.
I haven't had any issues with this.
>The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish.
>The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others.
I'm not a programmer, and even if I was I'd have better things to do than go through the source code of an operating system.
>The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor.
My "neighbors" can help themselves at the nearest pirate site.
No.29473
>>29470
>The "I'm not a programmer" defense
Microsoft can legally modify your computer without your consent, and you would have no legal way to stop them. If they wanted to they could bust down your door and get you put in prison for 5 years for pirating windows.
You don't have any problems with that?
No.29474
>>29473
>The "I'm not a programmer" defense
It's not a "defense."
>Microsoft can legally modify your computer without your consent, and you would have no legal way to stop them.
FOSS operating systems can do the same.
>If they wanted to they could bust down your door and get you put in prison for 5 years for pirating windows.
It's not pirated.
No.29478
>>29474
FOSS programs can't legally modify your computer without your consent, and more importantly the people who made it can't legally bash down your door and put you in prison for 5 years for modifying it.
Additionally, a FOSS operating system can be reviewed by *anyone*, not just the people who made it. That makes them much less likely to contain malicious code and more likely to have very high-quality code.
No.29479
>>29478
There's no legal difference between the two.
>the people who made it can't legally bash down your door and put you in prison for 5 years for modifying it
How am I going to reverse engineer an operating system when I can't even program a hello world? Sounds like you don't know any programming either.
No.29483
>>29479
The difference between FOSS and proprietary software is a legal difference.
On Windows, there may be a backdoor allowing the NSA to spy on you (some say it surely exists). On a free operating system, if there were such a thing, independent computer scientists can check the code and alert the consumer and they can even fork the program to remove/correct any malicious/buggy code.
No.29488
>>29473
>>29478
>>29483
Is another's use of windows a threat to your personal security? Most likely no.
Is it theoretically possible that windows is better suited to the needs or tastes of some within the cyberpunk community?
Yes, though most will prefer linux.
C'mon people let the poor bastard have his blue pill software… these constant OS arguments are giving me cancer.
No.29519
>>29483
That isn't a legal difference.
>some say it surely exists
But can't find any evidence and must eventually resort to demanding people to prove there isn't one.
No.29530
This thread has inspired me to hunt for red, purple, blue and green lighting this weekend. Should I go for LED or CFL bulbs?
No.29535
>>29530
LED, uses a lot less power which is a common enemy of cyberpunk.
No.29546
>>29519
>That isn't a legal difference.
The law is here to allow or forbid you to do stuff.
You do not have the right to freely redistribute proprietary softwares (you can only redistribute it under the conditions given in the license terms of use). It is illegal.
You do not have the right to study, modify, or redistribute modified versions of proprietary softwares. It is illegal.
If Microsoft wanted so, it could change the license of Windows and make it a free software. It is just a matter of changing the license (and releasing the source code).
No.29553
>cyberpunk is an aesthetic
Kill me this board sucks.
No.29555
>>29530
CFL if you want an actual black light
LED otherwise
No.29557
>>29553
>cyberpunk aesthetic does not exist
No.29558
>>29557
That's not cyberpunk aesthetic. Not even similar.
But Lain isn't cyberpunk at all, so it makes sense.
No.29559
>>29558
'twas a reaction pic.
No.29562
>>29255
I'm pretty sure the sleek and minimalist aesthetic stems from post-cyberpunk. Deus Ex: Human Revolution has much more of a post-cyberpunk style than a cyberpunk style.
No.29567
>>29335
That is an abomination. You're sacrificing efficiency to appear hip and trendy with the /cyber/ kids.
No.29570
>>29567
That's not his but it looks pretty functional to me
No.29605
>>29546
You're changing the subject. Earlier you said this:
>FOSS programs can't legally modify your computer without your consent.
>The difference between FOSS and proprietary software is a legal difference. On Windows, there may be a backdoor allowing the NSA to spy on you (some say it surely exists). On a free operating system, if there were such a thing, independent computer scientists can check the code and alert the consumer and they can even fork the program to remove/correct any malicious/buggy code.
Now you're suddenly talking about piracy and modifying the source code.
No.29606
Yeah, late to this post, I know.
But, in my qualitatively useless opinion, the whole 'clean minimalist cyberpunk' aesthetic trend is a reaction to the setting when thought about in a non-aesthetic way.
Cyberpunk is essentially science-fiction, but with one key difference (well a hell of a lot more than that but just one that I'm going to ramble on about).
In traditional sci-fi, today's problems are presumed to be solved or no longer applicable, important or stressed over. Modern issues are comfortably distant.
Cyberpunk is the opposite. Today's issues are uncomfortably close, and that's often the key part of fiction taking place within the setting. If sci-fi is simplified down to 'suppose _', Cyberpunk is similarly reduced to 'How would modern society react to __'.
And yeah, before anyone says anything I did basically steal all of that from MrBtongue.
So why is this relevant? Well, in the 80's and 90's when Cyberpunk was reaching it's peak in popular culture (if it's level of exposure can really be described as such) the relevant author's vision of the future was cluttered, dirty, utilitarian. Now that Apple and Google own everything, people's vision of the future is smooth, minimalist everything with off-white textures and rounded edges.
People with a lack of respect for Cyberpunk's aesthetic trappings took a look at modern society's and modern futurism's role in Cyberpunk as a setting, and decided to alter their interpretation of the setting without altering the name.
No.29607
>>29605
No, you misread me. Technically speaking I can write a FOSS malware, but as any competent programmer can understand what it does, it soon becomes publicly known that it is a malware. Some /tech/ guys can even fork my malware, remove the malware part, and make a useful program out of it. Legally.
For instance, some people don't like some version of Ubuntu because it sells personal information to Amazon, but there are forks of Ubuntu that don't do that stuff.
Proprietary softwares cannot be audited without the authorization of the developer (because its source code is the propriety of the developer), so it may do bad stuff without anyone else knowing it. And if you realize that a proprietary software does bad stuff, you cannot modify it.
For instance, if you think that Windows 10 invades your privacy too much, the only thing you can legally do is stop using Windows 10 and try another OS. Well, you can toggle some shit in the configuration menu, but it doesn't solve much. There is no "Windows 10 without the annoying parts" distribution. All of this because you cannot legally hack Windows (and because noone has managed to steal the Windows 10 source code).
Free software is all about hacking stuff legally, actually.
No.29624
>>29607
You clearly said that Windows can legally have NSA backdoors but FOSS cannot, and that FOSS programs can't legally modify your computer without your consent but Windows can.
>Proprietary softwares cannot be audited without the authorization of the developer (because its source code is the propriety of the developer), so it may do bad stuff without anyone else knowing it.
This isn't even true and is just a popular freetard myth (which just goes to show how little freetards make use of any their precious freedoms). The behavior of proprietary programs can be observed. If for example a program is sending data to somewhere it shouldn't, the traffic is visible.
No.29625
>>29624
Dude how retarded can you get?
No.29626
>>29283
what's your beef with skeumorphism?
No.29627
>>29488
Your high-minded above-the-fray conciliation is giving me cancer.
No.29628
>>29562
Did you even play the game?
Yeah, there's always going to be rich people in a cyberpunk setting who have sleek stuff. But most people are going to live in the Detroits and Hengshas.
No.29631
>>29625
Not as retarded as freetards who think malware can't be identified, analyzed and reverse engineered if it doesn't have its source on Github.
No.29636
>>29624
However, the content of that traffic may be obscured and the destination may be a co-opted legitimate location such as an update server.
No.29638
>>29636
If somebody has taken over the legitimate destination of the traffic, how exactly is FOSS going to help?
No.29641
>>29638
In this case, it won't. Just meant to note that the traffic being observable didn't necessarily help all that much.
No.29643
>>29255
I usually like to clean my work spaces once in a while, makes it look nice and organized, plus it's just easier to find shit when I need it. and like >>29291 said think more like, Bare bones and clean. I do like the lived in aesthetic, just because it looks comfy as fuck.
No.29651
I own dozens of computers and tens of thousands of dollars worth of electronics, parts, and test equipment ranging in age from nearly 40 years old to just bought last month that I've collected over a decade and more or less still find uses for, even of that's just using them for the sake of using them, like for games and software that has other, more modern versions but for one reason or another I don't really need any of the modern features (like I still legitimately use VisiCalc and it works for small things or that I make grocery lists using a 90's POS machine with receipt printer, perfect size so why not). That said, I have one plate one bowl and one of each piece of silverware. My apartment is still decorated how it was when I moved in with the exception of a few posters. I don't buy really anything that isn't tech. I keep organized buy my apartment still looks like a lab, albeit a well organized one. I guess that's that's a kind of minimalism
No.33048
>>29255
Sure kid. Clean is 'trendy'.
Maybe you're just a disgusting neck-beard, schway.
No.36532
>>29631
Free malware:
>suspicious.c
>send(data, "bot.net");
>remove
Proprietary malware:
>tens of hours looking at the traffic, because it only sends the data on Monday at 17:43
>7F D9 C5 87 3A B4 C9 B5 A8 73 92 CD E5
>"huh, that looks like an update query"
No.36554
>>29324
I don't think minimalism isn't cyberpunk because it is simple. tbh simplicity is incredibly cyberpunk, simple and DIY.
Minimalism however often sacrifices simplicity and extendability. For example the new mac books with only one port, minimalist yes, Simple maybe, useful no…
Minimalism is only cyberpunk when it's useful, and as an aesthetic I think minimalism can be a lie when the outer simplicity of an object was created to hide(or dumb down) the inner complexity.
No.36556
>minimalism is not schway
>the third image posted is minimalism: neon night edition
Make up your mind OP.
>>36554
This guy gets it.
No.36560
>>29311
If you think a certain OS is schway, then you're too into the aesthetic. Nothing in cyberpunk culture says you must use linux.
No.36564
you can probably blame Mirrors Edge for that
No.36565
>>29404
If you just want to learn and experiment.
Get virtualbox and install some beginner friendly distro on it, like Linux Mint.
And regarding being spied on, who knows what can be used against you in the future.
No.36566
>>36564
Tᴏ ʙᴇ ғᴀɪʀ, I ʜᴀᴠᴇ ɴᴏ ᴘʀᴏʙʟᴇᴍs ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴏsᴇ ᴘʟᴀᴄᴇs ɪɴ Mɪʀʀᴏʀ's Eᴅɢᴇ ʟᴏᴏᴋɪɴɢ ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴛʜᴀᴛ, sɪɴᴄᴇ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴀʀᴇ sᴜᴘᴘᴏsᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ʙᴇ ᴜᴘsᴄᴀʟᴇ, ʜɪɢʜ ᴄʟᴀss/ᴄᴏʀᴘ ᴇɴᴠɪʀᴏɴᴍᴇɴᴛs.
No.36567
>>36566
yeah, but even the sewers are amazingly clean, the govt has OCD
No.36601
>>36564
>>36567
It was a game released in 2008, back when everyone was still using XP (XP has stacks of gradient colours). I doubt minimalist was what they were after. They were pronbably trying to work with the console limitations the best they could by cutting on the thorough design of the places (not making the sewers filthy to make sure there's less to load).
No.36608
>>29255
>Dirt, grit, technology, clutter, actual utilitarian structure (not ugly useless minimalism) et cetera make a livingspace cyber
I think what you're looking for covered partially by Maximalism.
Maximalism has a neat appeal. It's shows a societal attitude towards, even a dependence on, hyper-consumerism and a general lack of space caused by over-crowding but an architectural awareness of it as well. At least to me, I like those as part of a cyberpunk setting.
Although it's commonly co-opted by visual arts rather than home design, so finding examples of it tends to be tough. What you do find doesn't really take into account cyberpunk aesthetics, either. Unless it's a battlestation.
No.38087
>>29335
Why the space exploring fuck would you need 10 motherfucking CRTs, AND 3 laptops. You need 4 at most, 6 if you're insane.
>>29404
>Install mint
>learn basic linux shit
…?
>install gentoo
>rtfm
>ascend to a higher plane of existence.
>>29459
Reddit doesn't share our culture, see. Which is why they fuck up, and instead of lurking moar, like they should, they shitpost until a board is all reddit and ruin it.
No.38520
I think it's just that neo-brutalist architecture is just easier to render, lol.
Le Corbussier 45 and 90-degree angles and Frank Lloyd-Wright pre-fab blocks favour dev tools.
No.38562
Kids, as you grow up eventually you learn that having wires all over your room for the sake of it isn't necessary and is impractical. So you think to yourself, "should the megacorps storm my room would I be able to wipe everything without scrambling to find stuff? Will I make a successful getaway with everything all over the place?". You have to think practicality instead of aesthetics sometimes. That's why minimalism works for most people. Unless you're in a secret underground bunker with a lifetime supply of food and water then hang all the wires and monitors up all you want.
No.38607
>>29295
>4:3 monitor
my man
No.38936
>>33048
This.
OP is just too lazy to clean his room and wants his mom to think he's cool.
No.39039
>>29255
Because Tech Companies like Apple and Google don't want to present their products as what they are.
Hear me out.
I'd like to think everyone here as at least opened up a computer once in their life and taken a good hard look at it. We are diggers, problem solvers, autists, shitposters. Sheets of silicon and metal. Circuits, Boards, Chips, datastreams, that's just part of our everyday life and a part of it we at very least accept.
The normies though don't see that. To a few they see something magical and may one day join the hordes of shitposters, but everyone else just sees an open, ugly mess. Like a gaping wound, they desperately seek something to bandage it or seal it away.
Apple, Google, Microsoft, always put on a clean friendly face with the public. Corporations made of meat and flesh, hiding behind polished steel along with their creations and this makes the user happy.
But we've cracked open enough cases.
We know what they are.
Deep down, the sleek designd oesn't hide the buggy software, the cheap, poorly made parts, the glitchy interface.
A minimalist "design" doesn't represent the end products quality, merely it's presentation.
And though to the average person, these companies are friendly happy faces they see everyday, we've cracked open their rotting carcasses, and seen the rubber covered worms seething beneath their plastic pallor.
Much like this anon >>36608 said about Maximilism, the sudden resurgence of minimalism is due in part thanks to the corporations trying to put on a fresh face and present themselves as anything but the hyper-consumerist disaster they are.
Im still kind of okay with minimalism, but it's so fucking overused
No.39044
No.39083
>>29255
the megacorps love minimalism. ESPECIALLY right now everything looks like it was designed by kids in paint
No.39091
>>29607
> you cannot legally hack Windows (and because noone has managed to steal the Windows 10 source code)
There was a guy on 4chan who helped program the windows 10 system, and he created a thorough script to block all the spyware and tracking/telemetry shit in the system. Are we honestly not going to address the fact an ex microsoft employee gave us a script to block all the issues everyone has with windows?
No.39108
When I discovered the internet on our w95 a new world opened for me.
There was so much to do and there was so much different content to find with different people. Also the technology behind it was so interesting, I ended up getting some grads and I thought I had found my life goal.
No.39109
>>39108
>Fast forward 10 years
Internet became shit, even TOR started dying. Everything is controlled and it basically became a medium of social status. Desktops are replaced by smartphones, tablets and laptops which are thrown in the trash after a few years.
My whole world was dying and it was not the world that I loved anymore.
No.39110
>>39109
I still don't have social media or a smartphone, I'm sitting here at my desktop thinking what the fuck to do with my life now all my dreams collapsed and I gave up my job a few months ago because the passion is totally gone.
No.39111
>>39110
My world is gone and I'm sitting here waiting for something to happen that is gone forever.
No.39114
>>39111
Sounds like you already think that your previous aspirations are gonna have to change to workable, because the framework in which they were formulated is gone now.Either find a different community in which your dreams fit, or find new dreams for your current community.
>>29255
As for OP, I think that true cyper aethetic is organic; if something is minimal and clean, give it a few years of being lived in and stuff accumulated to see what happens. Maybe it's clean at the end, maybe not.
No.39119
>>39091
That sounds amazing, would you mind linking me to this script that downloads the OS source and makes it POSIX
No.39142
>>39108
>our w95
You refer to computers by their operating system?
No.39149
>>29309
>draw me like one of your figurines
No.39150
>>29341
same shit happens on xfce/mate occasionaly
No.39151
>>39091
>"all"
thats pushing it, just because someone worked on it doesnt mean they saw everything going on
No.39161
>>29465
This guy is right.
LET'S KILL ALL WINDOWSFAGS !!
No.39163
>>39161
whens the next rally?