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"A future is not given to you. It is something you must take for yourself. "

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Am I the only one here who thinks Neuromancer was complete ass?

Gibson's writing style felt like an ADHD twelve year old on meth. My eyes nearly fucking popped out of my skull trying to follow him from one point to the next.

Why do you guys suck its dick so much?



I actually haven't read it. Even checked it out of the library, just sat on my dresser, ha.

What do you like OP, any recommendations?



Personally, I enjoy it. The writing style does make it difficult to follow at times, but world and character building are brilliant.

I'm still reading it and I find myself getting used to the style.

Got any recommendations, OP?


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I sort of agree. I read it many many years ago and liked it, though it was a bit hard to follow at times as I wasn't used to the style.

Then, I revisited it a couple of years ago. There I was, sitting on a train between Tokyo and Chiba, reading Neuromancer and it struck me: Gibson is basically writing up his notes about a holiday in Japan. He's thrown together observations about Japanese city life and a bit of technobabble. Boom! Neuromancer.

Kind of ruined it for me.

This bit?

>Friday night on Ninsei.

>He passed yakitori stands and massage parlors, a franchised coffee shop called Beautiful Girl, the electronic thunder of an arcade. He stepped out of the way to let a dark-suited sarariman by, spotting the Mitsubishi-Genentech logo tattooed across the back of the man's right hand.

>Was it authentic? If that's for real, he thought, he's in for trouble. If it wasn't, served him right. M-G employees above a certain level were implanted with advanced microprocessors that monitored mutagen levels in the bloodstream. Gear like that would get you rolled in Night City, rolled straight into a black clinic.

>The sarariman had been Japanese, but the Ninsei crowd was a gaijin crowd. Groups of sailors up from the port, tense solitary tourists hunting pleasures no guidebook listed, Sprawl heavies showing off grafts and implants, and a dozen distinct species of hustler, all swarming the street in an intricate dance of desire and commerce.

>There were countless theories explaining why Chiba City tolerated the Ninsei enclave, but Case tended toward the idea that the Yakuza might be preserving the place as a kind of historical park, a reminder of humble origins. But he also saw a certain sense in the notion that burgeoning technologies require outlaw zones, that Night City wasn't there for its in habitants, but as a deliberately unsupervised playground for technology itself.

Sounds a lot more like Yokosuka.

>pic related


Because most of us read it between the ages of 15 and 18, and had no trouble at all following the narrative, as we are of average or higher intelligence.



if you were of average intelligence, you'd see that no one is critiquing the narrative, we're insulting his writing style




>My eyes nearly fucking popped out of my skull trying to follow him from one point to the next.

>The writing style does make it difficult to follow at times

>it was a bit hard to follow at times

Yeah, all you geniuses had no trouble following it at all, except when you admitted that you all had trouble following it.

Most middle school kids make similar complaints about Shakespear, arguing that it's out of date, that the speech is unnecessarily complex, etc.

You might have enjoyed it more if you could follow it.


I agree that it's ass, although for different reasons. True Names by Vinge and Vurt by Noon are far more integral to my idea of cyberpunk.



> Shakespear

140 IQ in action

to dumb it down for you a little, it's like asking a crackhead about how his day went. sure, maybe all he did was go to the park and play on the swingset, but that's not how it's going to come pouring out of his mouth.



No one here claimed to have a 140 IQ, and everyone said they had trouble following it.

If a crackhead tells me about his day, and I don't find it interesting or engaging, that's a fair point.

That's not what people said. They said they're having trouble following it. All of them said that.

So how are you here trying to argue that they followed it just fine, but didn't like the narrative structure? They didn't say that. They said they had trouble following it.

I've never heard anyone who enjoyed the novel complain that they had trouble following it. I would suggest that people who have trouble following the novel naturally don't enjoy it as much as people capable of following it.

It's not exactly a stretch.



Pointing out a spelling error online should be called the 'autistic checkmate'.


I guess it's a case of first not necessary being the best situation.


Honestly it is kind of weird I was really expecting to like it a lot, I'm a huge fan of Neal Stephenson and I was expecting more stuff in that vein, but I came away not liking Gibsons writing at all. For what it is worth, I haven't really enjoyed any of Bruce Sterlings writing at all either. I just keep wishing that their stories/settings were written by a different author the whole time.

If anyone can recommend me some writing similar to Neal Stephenson I'd appreciate it.



>tfw to smart

t. you



Uh, you should have used " instead of ' and therefore you're wrong, gg.

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