No.143
I've been thinking about the purpose of this board. What is your opinion:
Do you think this should be a place to talk only about "high cinema", with words like "movie" or "director" forbidden (there are only "films" and "auteurs") with no "capeshits" and blockbusters and allowed,
Or, a place for discussion about every single film with no prejudices, as long it is a film and there is a discussion, not spamming pictures of Aiden Gillan. (there's
>>>/tv/ for that)
Discuss, state your mind.
No.145
>>143I'd say it's a place for discussion of all film, but in an intelligent way for people who have legitimate interest and knowledge in (or want to gain such things) cinema.
No.146
>>143So really I think that it should be open to discussion of all film, since closing off some would be a bad idea imo, but certainly a focus on the more artistic "high cinema" as you called it.
No.147
>>143Talk about all film, but intelligent.
Not just "4U XDDDDD LELELELELELE EPIC MAYMAY'Z!" but taking the posts cereal, this will stop people who just want to have a bunch of fuck nuts go "yuh its gub" and will encourage the talk of fine films, and docs.
Since people will view this place as a well "that place that talks about books but with films and don't like lepicmaymay'z that much", this will end to people who want to talk about films talking about them.
Sorry if I write like a retard have not had any sleep for some time now.
No.148
>>146I agree. If you start to label what is allowed and what isn't then it will attract people who will constantly try to ride the line. I think that the thread will naturally attract "high cinema" because those are the films that allow more discussion to be produced because there is more depth to them.
No.149
It's a relief seeing that most of the people think alike. I was worried that some of the folks will try to shift the focus off the more mainstream films, considering them "pleb" or something like that. All films are worth of the discussion.
No.150
>>148>>149these are pretty much straight on the money.
No.151
>>149It could very easily pose a problem in the future if traffic increases and blockbuster discussion drown out obscurer topics.
Food for thought.
No.152
>>151it could end up problematic at some point, but for now at least I think just allowing film conversation to flow is the right way to go.
And if any people come on with their stupid bullshit showing them to /tv/ or something like that could be the way to go.
No.154
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>>152Alright, cool
Also what's the board consensus on nitrate goddesses?
No.238
>>151>>152So far, there's not much traffic on this board and I think we should worry about it when it becomes a problem. As of now I think we should consider allowing tv series threads, because of similarities in this media (some TV series can be as entertaining and well written as best films), and the alternative is
>>>/tv/ that consists, as of now, of retarded memes - not only baneposting, but the rest that made /tv/ a shit place.
If
>>>/film/ was a place for discussion about everything film/documentary/tvseries related, and
>>>/tv/ for random posts, that would be the best solution, I guess. For now the board is too small to diversify mutual community.
No.290
All film but absolutely no generals of any sort. We shoud try to focus on art films though.
>>154impeccable
No.291
I agree wholeheartedly with all posters so far. To my eyes, the distinction between high cinema or art cinéma is somewhat artificial. As much as I hate capeshit, I think any film in existence should be open for discussion. But, most importantly, we must cover the subject of how we'd like these lines of discussions to be. I say we shouldn't be too cheeky on encouraging deep and insightful film debate, deprecating the rest.
No.301
>>291agreed, I think it should just be a fairly relaxed open forum for discussion of films. Not being snobbish but not being too silly either (i.e. not being /tv/)
No.303
>>291Agreed. The discussion is the focus, not the content, as long as the content is film.
No.312
Also, I think it'd be cool (if browsers are eager to) to program film-related activities, the most essential of which would be watch-alongs, placing a thread after the viewing for further discussion. I actually did this in other internet forums; it turned out to be great.
No.313
>>312sounds like it could be an idea once we've grown a bit but at the moment, considering how small we are and time zones and all that might be a little tricky, certainly a good idea for the future though.
No.314
>>312We need a sticky with general guidelines, and later we should start weekly discussions after watching specific film or something like that.
No.317
>>314agreed, a weekly discussion would probably work a bit better too because it removes the problem of when people have the time and stuff like that.
No.318
>>317Yes, though I absolutely adore the idea of watching some film together (on stream eg.) and commenting it live or shortly after. It would be very interesting albeit hard to pull off.
No.319
>>318yeah it would be absolutely great if we could do it but until we have the numbers to make it plausible a weekly film would be good.
No.321
>>314This sounds great! /lit/ had a book club or whatever you want to call it that did the same thing. Would be a nice addition.
No.324
Watching films together on an image board isn't the easiest. Time zones and scheduling will pretty much fuck it up for everyone. Either people will have to make the sacrifice of being awake or else people won't participate. Also what do we do about availability. Some poor sods will cry out that they're not on private trackers or something. Really all depends on what we decide to watch, but maybe pastebin tracker links?
No.326
>>324As you say the timing will be a big problem and that's why I think the suggestion of just doing a film club from
>>314 would be the best idea.
So just selecting a film every Sunday say and then everybody watches it over the week and it's discussed the next week.
No.327
>>324As someone suggested a weekly discussion. You have a week to watch it, then join us for discussion. That correct? Someone should handle those threads, like last week movie, this week, next week with the dates. Then a DL link or something.
No.328
>>327sounds like a plan, but we'd need to find someone to run it, I'm too much of a lazy fuck to do so.
No.330
>>328What's more important, we need a way to choose said film, sort of a poll. It's oing to get really annoying after time when only one person will be choosing films.
No.335
>>330Maybe we could choose by genre as well? Or maybe that's too limiting
No.338
Here are my thoughts.
While I liked the old /tv/ model of no sticky, this board is a bit different so it would be nice to give people some introductory guidelines. I'd still like to keep the initial page-stretching to a minimum, so I was thinking we could make a brief "/film/ guide to film" pastebin/webpage and simply link to it in a single line of text. That way there's less scrolling for regular visitors.
I'd hoped to keep tv discussion elsewhere, but we'll see if another board fills that void as 8chan develops. Unfortunately /tv/ seemed to turn into a shithole immediately.
MOTW would be great if we figure out the logistics.
No.339
>>335>>330Just setup a strawpoll every week, have whoever ends up organising it selecting a few films (perhaps do a genre each week?) and then we vote on which one to watch.
No.342
>>338So we need to set up some vague guidelines and things for the /film/ guide.
So I'd say to set up the ideas of focus on discussion of film, mostly the more artistic stuff, but just having it as an open forum about film. And then have some links to things like TSPDT for those new to the board trying to get in to cinema, and maybe some list of directors and worthwhile genres.
No.348
I'd say we should discuss any type of movie as long as it has some "substance" to it. But I'd prefer if we didn't talk about "capeshit".
No.349
>>342Guidelines should be "Discuss films, explain your opinions, be nice to others", pure substance.
As for introduction to other users, there's infographics thread, but we may do certain lists (by genre? by country? by year) of entry level films. I remember /lit/ had once a wikia set up for that purpose, it was nice and clean. What do you think?
No.351
>>349Those are some good guidelines, I think explaining opinion and generally being polite are quite important with something like this if we don't want it to devolve into flame wars.
That sounds like a good idea too, link to TSPDT and then a list of films by country and one by genre, I think by year might be a bit unnecessary, list of important directors (relatively short one) could be good too.
No.357
>>348>implying substance isn't more than an abstract convention in art>implying films don't resonate differently to different viewers, leaving space for free interpretation>implying form and technique cannot be substance>implying capeshit can't be interesting No.362
>>357you've got a point but nonetheless I think it would be nice to try to talk about the more artistic things if possible. Obviously we should be open to all films but would be nice to have a focus on the more artistic stuff.
No.385
>>143I think every film should be considered, as every film has merit to some. I'm just afraid I f the board being flooded with capeshit/blockbuster worship like /TV/ always was. A place for cinephiles to gather and discuss genuinely good movies would be nice for a change.
No.391
>>385This is the #1 worry. But unlike halfchan we shouldn't have to wait for fucking ever for a change to happen. Should just play it by ear.
No.394
>>391But the good thing is that the majority (with Board Moderator) has agreed on future course. If any of the negative scenarios will come close to realizing, there will be no problem in changing and enforcing new rules.
No.460
1. Take away flags. Pointless, counter anonymous
2. Make default anonymous name Anonymous
3. Discussion of films only
4. No threads dedicated specifically to an actor or actress
(e.g.
Disallowed:
Who is your favorite actress?
What are John Doe's best films?
Recommend me films starring Jane Doe.
Allowed:
What is your favorite actor/director duo?
)
5. No memes, flavor of the month phrases, memewords, or buzzwords not limited to but including
ay lmao
FOR YOU
What is that a scar?
pleb
patrician
durn to ya
lel
kek
top lel
reddit
SJW
cuckold
No.462
I'd suggest the same thing as I did to /mu/, no prejudice. No resorting to pleb/patrician name calling and classification of films.
I'm happy to discuss blockbuster films if it is an open and honest discussion and people have an open mind and can accept that whilst a blockbuster movie (like Terminator or whatever) might be a really entertaining film, there are other films that do other things better.
That means that you can't stop people from talking about capeshit, as long as it is an actual discussion or even something as basic as talking about your favourite moments from it, quoting lines etc. But no meme posting.
Also forced anonymous, no flags
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No.470
>>460this minus pleb/patrician
also make me moderator, not that I would do anything with it, I just need an incentive to make this board good
No.475
>>469disappointing.
I have an eclectic film taste. I've only really been deeply exploring films since January.
http://letterboxd.com/sjamesturner/films/Tell me I'm a pleb again if you want.
No.476
>>470pleb/patrician are pointless terms used to needlessly categorize people and art based on personal opinion. It is used to circumnavigate actual discussion.
Also words that should be wordfiltered/disallowed:
alpha
beta
capeshit
No.478
>>476I disagree, e.g.:
Korine is objectively pleb
Syberberg is objectively patrician
plus you cannot take the fun away completely, don't worry there'll be plenty of serious discussion even if I have to make personally sure of it
don't care about any other buzzwords being banned
No.481
>>478The problem is the connotations of the word and of using the word is more relevant than the conversation you're trying to have. They are buzzwords because they have no concrete meaning they are just words that bear connotations that stifle open conversation. No one likes being called a pleb or having the films they like being called pleb, and there's no way to come back from it. You're better off just using more intellect to describe specifically why you think a film is 'plebeian', due it's writing, shallow themes, appeal to emotion over intellect etc.
No.482
>>475not too bad for a pleb, pleb
pro-tip: i'm a pleb too .don't be ashamed No.483
>>460>Disallowed:>Who is your favorite actress?>What are John Doe's best films?>Recommend me films starring Jane Doe.>Allowed:>What is your favorite actor/director duo?You must be fun at parties, dude.
No.486
>>481you don't have to explain this to me, I know what you mean
I barely use the word pleb myself, but allowing these words doesn't exclude what you're talking about. I can call someone a pleb in one post and have a long winded discussion about serious topics in others
>>483I think what he means is that 'actress' threads on /tv/ have always been (no so thinly) veiled waifu threads
I've never seen anybody talk about, say, Isabelle Adjani or Jeanne Moreau's filmography, but if that was the case here then it should be allowed
No.487
>>483This is a board meant for film, no?
Not a board to celebrate celebrity culture.
No.489
So do we have a date in mind for the film club? I'm rather excited about that
No.490
Hello dutch :^)
No.491
hi polish :3
No.494
This board looks kind of promising, although there already seems to be some pole shitposting, I'm slightly concerned.
No.524
>>460>SJWDo you really want to open this board up to politics shitposting?
No.525
>>524Surely that's why it's on the list.
No.532
>>143Stanley Kubrick is a good director
No.540
dubs
No.550
>>487Actors and actresses are integral part of film culture, and discussion about them should be allowed. The question "What is the best Steve McQueen film?" or something similar is valid. As long as it's not posting high res photos of celebrities' feet. There's a thin line between these two.
>>494>there already seems to be some pole shitpostingThat's why we can't have nice things, przyjacielu.
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No.552
I think all the russian IPs should be banned by default.
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No.556
>>552That's racist bro, don't be like that for our rusfriends.
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No.560
NO CAPESHIT
I AM GROOT
No.563
>>552TopKeK
Silly Russians you are not apart of europe, you are just white Asia :^)
No.564
>>562Why are there so many Poles here? Are you all cinephiles in Pooland?
>>563Fuck off paki
No.565
Doctor Pavel, I'm CIA.
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No.576
>>574Why did my name go?
$$huh$$
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No.581
Told you, russians are shitposters extreme.
No.586
>>584Tell me about poles, why do they have such supreme film taste.
No.592
>>586Why do their directors sexually abuse children?
No.595
>>592Shouldn't you be drinking yourself to death, Anatoly?
No.598
>>595When did I say I wasn't drunk?
No.600
>>598You are a good person.
No.601
>>600check'd
upboat for a classic meme
No.602
Stop fighting you guyssss.
Weee neeed to beee frieenddddsss.
No.621
>>617
nice OC friend :^)
keep 'em coming
this one is my favorite, a very daring synthesis :-)
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No.635
>>489I think for now that's being postponed and we're probably at some point going to just have a weekly film that we'll discuss every Sunday say.
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>>580>>584>>592>>598>>601>>602>>607>>617>>621I think we should make this the shitposting thread just so everyone can get it out of them.
contribootin'
No.647
>>475and to be honest one could incredibly easily call you a pleb from all those films, they're almost without exception mainstream american films (whether they be old or new mainstream) but as I said calling you pleb before was indeed a joke and your opinions are nonetheless valid.
No.651
>>640weehehehhhhehhehehwhwheheheheh[
I second your proposal, good sir.
No.657
Shitposters are here. Board is kill
Can we get our own IRC channel and no not /film/ @rizon.
No.659
>>657you may want to note, that the shitposters are all doing it jokingly in this one thread, at least me and I think the polish guy have been here damn near since the beginning.
No.662
>>635Why is it postponed, though? It'd be clever to start off as soon as possible, even if there are only a few of us among the board. We may not have another chance.
>>647There is no need to be ashamed for being a pleb. Once you accept the inalienable fact that you are, in truth, another pleb, you are set free to trascend the pleb-patrician dichotomy. Self-projected fear breeds denial (or affirmation, for the same matter).
lrn2 b chill m8s
No.663
>>659it's the pole and his IRC buddies. hence why you should avoid #film on Rizon. hi pole :3
No.665
Anyway, am I right to assume that the other polish guy is the admin of this board?
No.666
>>663Wow, that other pole has shit taste, I'm genuinely offended you think that I'm him.
No.667
>>662on the first point, just cos I don't think any of us can be bothered to set it up, I'm too lazy, we should do it as soon as possible, but who will do it?
On the second point, yeah that's pretty much right.
No.668
>>666confirmed for satan.
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No.670
>>669>tfw I'm probably getting banned now No.672
>>670He does it for free :^)
No.675
Anyway, what will this film club constitute as?
Is it just going to be a sticky with a film poster where people casually discuss the movie from OP throughout the week or some bullshit stream like previously on /tv/?
If the former I can just make one with a movie I was going to watch today :^)
No.677
>>675not sure yet but I say we start setting up the film club now to see what does or doesn't work
No.678
>>677Yeah, that sounds like a plan, the idea of a genre every week with a strawpoll up for a day or so of some films in that genre to vote for what to watch and then have a stickied thread to discuss it over the week seems like the best idea to me
No.679
>2014>still trying to start a film club>>677nice
No.680
>>675A casual discussion is probably better.
I wouldn't be averse to a stream but I find that if you're all watching it at the same time and talking it can lessen the experience. When we have a smaller userbase we could have some pretty good conversations over the course of days.
>>679>Rule 1, do not talk about film club. No.681
>>678>genreI thought the point of film club was to broaden one's cinematic horizons and not watch genre films.
No.683
>>681I suppose that is a good point, could do by director I suppose? But that presents the same problem there are obscure one off films and directors with small cinematographies. Maybe we should just choose someone (the one who we think to be most knowledgeable on cinema) to choose a film each week that he thinks we should watch and discuss said film over the week in a stickied thread.
No.685
>>670>>670It was nice having you here, my Pole shitposter fellow. I don't ever want to forget you —and I truly mean it. I wish I could guarantee sucess in my endeavor, but casual users from the internet —specially 4chan anons— pop up in my mind as meaningless information, drifting pictures condemned to an instantaneous oblivion, which is kind of analogue to unconscious relationships that big city non-related inhabitants have.
Enjoy your vacation.
No.687
Is discussion of soundtrack acceptable, or is that too off topic/attractive to /tv/ sorts?
No.689
As the self proclaimed film expert on this board I suggest we watch Les enfants du paradis by Marcel Carne for this week's film club.
No.690
>>683Maybe shortlist it to five films or something and have a vote? I wouldn't want it to be some kind of situation where we have one person telling everyone what we're watching. I think that goes against the whole anonymous vibe of the chans.
No.691
>>690If we vote then the most mainstream film will always win, and the people who voted on others won't watch it.
No.692
>>681I wholeheartedly agree with this point.
>>683I'm guessing we could do several cinema cycles by director, but as well by theme (ex. neo-noir cinema), movements (Czech-Slovakian New Wave, Dogma '95, minimalism, whatever), or countries (ex. a special cycle of Chinese cinema). I don't think choosing a single delegate that decides what to watch is such a good idea. I'm more inclined to
>>690>>687Totally acceptable.
No.693
Can I just say that reading through this thread has been the greatest thing for me all week (excluding the shitpost madness towards the middle). Reasonable debate. Sensible opinions carefully explained. An accepting attitude of different types of cinema. If /film/ stays like this I'm never leaving.
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No.697
>>694I'l abstain from voting as I have no knowledge of the directors. I'm just along to learn.
No.699
>>694Why French poetic realism?
people will vote for Renoir, he's the most "mainstream" of the bunch No.700
>>692agreed there.
>>697I too am quite new, I think the idea being as
>>692 suggested, we pick a director/theme/movement then compile a shortlist of films in that category and have people vote.
No.702
>>700700 get (piling up the gets here, notably got 13, 100 and 200 thus far)
No.704
>>699moje proxy > opinia ludzi No.707
>>704O ty kurwiarzu, nie prościej wyłączyć flagi ty niepatryjoto. Dlatego zewnętrze ankiety = gówno>>700We could first divide films in categories such as "country", "decade" and "genre", not necesserily by director.
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No.710
>>693What is your actual life like? Question exclusively conceived out of curiosity,
No.712
>>694nonono
we pick a theme together than different people come up with different movies as submissions, then we vote on the 2 top ones (one plebbier one more patrician) and we go from there
basically like old film club but without deschi controlling the votes
No.714
>>710Heh. Pretty good actually. My statement was a bit hyperbolic.
No.716
>>712That film club sucked dongs though.
No.718
>>716that was because of deschi and because the suggestions were terrible
here we're among knowledgeable people and the picks would be top-tier
No.721
>>716I was there every viewing…it was actually a lot more fun than people realized.
Especially On The Silver Globe was great viewing together.
No.722
>>718I actually appreciated Deschi years ago. He was one of the few devoted posters in
high —I hate this term; it sounds too pedantic— film threads, permanently passionate about cinema. He made good points from time to time. He opened my mind to new perspectives and interpretations. What happened to him?
>>721I'm meaning to watch On The Silver Globe ASAP. Been on my backlog far too long.
No.723
>we're among knowledgeable people here
>deschi opened my mind to new perspectives
No.726
>>723He did, as hard as it is to believe. He introduced me to a bunch of auteurs like Tarr or Antonioni, convinced me to re-watch Otto è mezzo and read through a couple of filmmaking book. He was a nice guiding figure, for a period of time.
No.733
>>726You're Deschi a shit, spain, for shame!
No.741
>>665>>666So far I've counted four different Poles here for now.
Przejmujemy ten board No.747
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No.774
>>769Dutch pls, it's no use hiding your flag.
No.777
love how this has legitimately ended up as the shitposting thread
No.779
>>774Nie mowie po polsku, serdecznie dzie
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>>777I read that as 'SyphiliticBrit'.
No.833
>>784So just a regular Brit??? kek
No.836
kill the flags. this isn't /int/. Also Renoir? I mean i don't mind as i still need to see his earlier films but there are other less known interesting directors.
No.837
>>552holy shit, you're right polski
No.839
>>836>>837Why are there so few North American cinema connoisseurs? Look how many European flags have posted and there's you two poor souls in murrucan time…
Do Americans only watch capeshit??
SINCERELY, GROOT No.844
>>839kek. Everything is available in America but the only things marketed are capeshit and blockbusters. I hate it too. I just go to my local arthouse theatre, alone, and watch whatever or I just torrent. Europeans do have better taste than us, I won't lie. Also we have a lot of poser/special snowflakes who want to be "cinephiles" but their favorite movie is The Fellowship of the Ring.
No.849
>>839The American movie scene since the 80's has been dominated by pop culture for the most part.
No.850
>>844>>849Most people I know who appreciate cinema pretty much dislike the whole pop culture thing we got going here.
No.857
based polish
No.862
>>844I see. Thanks, burgerbro! :3
Check'd
>>857HI :^)
No.863
Czy wspominałem już o tym, że czuję się trochę nieswojo w związku z ilością polaczków na tej desce?
No.866
>>863Yeah, there's certainly too many of you cockroaches here.
No.868
>>862no problem
>>863yes. less polacks pls :3
No.977
i wouldn't want to post here if it was restricted to "high cinema." especially because i don't know how that would be defined / who's running the show here and with some snobs you end up with the "all the masterpieces are in museums" syndrome.
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YOU FELLAS ARE SAVIORS OF CINEMA. FUCK /TV/ OI!
No.1020
god damn this board is slow. seriously need some people in here. like half the point of using anonymous imageboards is that they're faster than regular forums.
No.1021
>>1020board was made 4 days ago
No.1072
Looks like this board is getting off to a good start.
No.1164
so am i allowed to call you plebs "plebs" or not
No.1165
>>476I agree, there really is no point in continuing the "pleb/patrician" meme here
No.1166
>>844>Europeans do have better taste than usThere's no need to be so ingratiating.
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No.1172
>>476>words that should be wordfiltered/disallowedfuck off back to reddit, faggot
No.1173
I think we should be able to spam the fedoracore chart as well as fedoracore images and post *tips fedora* in every thread
If you disagree, reddit is that way
No.1177
>>1174I think we should ban words altogether and make this a true imageboard.
No.1178
>>1176pls stop projecting
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No.1180
>>1178you realize that doesn't work for everything right? you're clearly a mad autist pleb.
No.1181
>>1180pls stop projecting
No.1182
No television. No flags. That's it.
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No.1193
>>1182>No flagsI somewhat agree with this. I've been posting on /int/ for just over a year now, and that board is full of people who will simply attack you based on your flag. They can't refute your point or debate you, so they'll just end up replying with something like "lol OK, mohammed al-britani", or "paki lelz"
I'm afraid that once this board takes off, we'll have something similar which will detract from the main focus of the board
inb4 "you just can't handle the banter"
No.1199
>>1193There is an option "Don't show my flag" in the posting box on the very top.
No.1200
>>1199It doesn't save the option…also, it's not available in the quickreply, correct?
No.1203
Flags are by far the coolest addition to the board, and I'm not saying that just because I have a special one click proxy addon just for shitposting.
No.1204
>>1203no you don't. You're just another polish shitlord.
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>>1204Your mum is a shitlord.
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>5 posts/hour
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>>1212>>>/tv/if you care more about the number of posts rather than their quality
No.1294
>>1202No, every single European does not have better taste than every single American, that just sounds like brown-nosing
No.1295
>>1294I know it's tough to accept the facts.
No.1297
>>1295WHO DA FUCK ARE YOU SUCKA
No.1393
the posting of red letter media or any shitty youtube "critics" that appeal to the lowest common denominator is an automatic ban offence
No.1440
>>1294I implore you, mod of /film/, please remove flags and adopt poster ID in it's stead as flags in a way interfere with the anonymity of posters. It is very annoying to have ones opinion dismissed or getting shitposting because of ones country of origin. What I write should be all that matters on here and not whether I'm european, american or from anywhere really. This is a board for films not politics. If we allow flags we continually invite shitposting.
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>>1440>implying anything like that has actually happened in non-shitposting threads No.1448
>words like "movie" or "director" forbidden
please be bait
No.1450
>>1443What's the point in even creating the possibility? How does having flags benefit this board?
No.1452
No.1453
>>1450You have an option to hide your flag if it bothers you, flags are interesting because they show what kind of approach to cinema people from various countries have.
No.1515
>>1453How exactly is that interesting to people who want to talk about films (again, not politics)? I can hide my flag but other users will still resort to ad hominems at times against one another and the flags give them an easy target. It is one of the reasons we are anonymous. Example here:
>>1452 No.1516
This is another example:
>>1437What does this have to do with cinema? We are only muddying up the board with this nonsense. If we really aim to have quality posts this sort of crap shouldn't have a place here.
No.1518
>>1516>We are only muddying up the board with this nonsense. For you.
No.1519
>>1515>>1516Nobody cared about this shit before you started whining. If someone uses ad hominems because of your flag just ignore the retard. And if you're using this
>>1452 to support your case then you have no sense of humour :^)
A little bit of international banter is never a bad thing.
>What does this have to do with cinemaIt's impossible for all posts to be exclusively about cinema. And they don't have to. Just gtfo with this rulecuck mentality.
Maybe there's another reason for your behavior? Maybe you oppose flags on this board because Germans are brainwashed into being ashamed of their country and flag? Fucking Jews, man.
No.1521
>>1519>Maybe you oppose flags on this board because Germans are brainwashed into being ashamed of their country and flag? Fucking Jews, man.I was staying in Germany a month ago. It's truly disgusting. Political correctness has completely polluted its ideological atmosphere to a verge where folks feel ashamed and renegate from their own national identity. No trade of ol' German honour, but unrecognizable masses brainwashed by media and State corps to believe in progress and globalization.
No.1522
>>1519>>1204>>1294>>1182I didn't even mention it before all of these comments. I appreciate international banter (I grew up in a international community) but it simply doesn't belong on a board where the idea is to seriously discuss cinema. It's a distraction and an excuse to insult. I really don't understand why you would so vehemently defend this. What's the point? It's not about rules. It's about absolute anonymity. I don't want anything distracting from what is being written because the content of what you say should be all that matters and not where you are from.
Good on you for the ad hominem. I'm sure someone is laughing at your "joke".
No.1523
>>1521Not about cinema and your opinion is that of someone who has never lived abroad or traveled enough to know that first impressions are extremely superficial. Why are we talking about germany?
No.1526
>>1522Oh no, 5 posts out of 1500 are insults based on flag ;_; It's like another shoah!
That's just not enough to turn off the flags. If they seriously interfere with good discussion then I will support your position.
Also, I'm under the impression that our admin enjoys having flags on this board so it will be hard to convince him to remove them.
>Good on you for the ad hominem. I'm sure someone is laughing at your "joke"The thought about that warms my heart and gives a reason to exist.
>>1521How the mighty have fallen!
No.1527
>>1523I'll concede you that point. My opinion is a blatant generalization based on a few, fragmentary impressions of a short-timed experience; therefore, it's worth nothing. I guess I just like talking shit mindlessly to forget about my stagnated, depressive reality. Were I living abroad, I wouldn't really be here.
>Why are we talking about germany?Don't be so cheeky m8. You don't have to jump at the mere sight of off-topic reference or discussion.
No.1529
>>1527That's fair. We all forget sometimes. I'm just annoyed about this discussion being derailed and my country of origin(not my home country even). My point is that having flags just gives another way for cancer to enter this board and feel at home. Aren't we trying to achieve quality posts and sensible discussion over shitposting and such? I will hide my flag in future should things not change but there is a good chance that sooner or later this sort of thing will attract or at least encourage idiots on this board. The quality of debate is already appalling at the moment if I consider:
>>1526I just don't want another /tv/.
No.1530
>>1529Can't handle the banter, Fritz? Go create /film2/ without flags then and stop whining.
No.1531
>>1530Please go to /tv/ with your attitude. You talk like a 12 year old.
No.1532
>>1531Please go back to reddit with your delicate ladylike sensibilities.
No.1533
>>1532I'm not the one who seems angry about all this. I've been trying to talk sensibly about whether we should have flags or not and you keep trying to get a rise out of me. I don't know why you seem so offended by my opinion.
No.1536
>>1533I am not angry or offended m8 and not trying to get anything out of you. Idk where you got all that.
No.1538
Think long term.
Of course right now we are for "high cinema", but who knows what this board will be abused for in 2, 12 months?
Capeshit should be forbidden, because judging by the old /tv/, it tends to swamp out everything else for about a month around a major release (so, almost the entire year). That is the very least we can do. The board would instantly improve. Just like Disney movies go on /co/, so should capeshit.
No.1539
Should all Russians be permabanned?
http://strawpoll.me/2664153 No.1541
No.1542
can't we all just get along?
No.1545
>>1539No, but the shitposter underneath you should. Also flags are a stupid idea.
No.1546
No.1549
>>1541>implyingIf I wanted to post that I would have used a proxy.
Also, it's cute how some German guy who hasn't even posted in any film related threads is so concerned about the quality of this board.
No.1552
>>1549Who's the other Russophobe here then?
No.1553
>>1552I'm sure there are plenty of shitposterphobes here.
No.1555
No.1556
>>1555Damn, I'm the man!
>>1444 No.1557
>>1555And it would be better if countries full of cancer weren't allowed to post.
No.1558
>>1557Can you provide some examples of countries full of cancer?
No.1562
>>1558Russia, I haven't seen a single film related post from a russian IP on this board.
No.1563
>>1562You should probably get your eyes checked, m8.
>>1509 No.1564
No.1566
>>1563If a namedrop of a movie is the best you could come up with then your country should really be banned.
No.1571
>>1566You just keep making up excuses to ban Russia. Face it, you aren't concerned about the quality of the board. If you were you would've just said something like this "Monsieur Connoisseur should be banned from /film/ for he doesn't contribute positively to discussion" (an opinion I don't agree with but still). Instead all you talk about is banning Russia. Your agenda is quite clear.
No.1573
>>1571The agenda is clear, if all posts from a certain country are shitposts then it would be for the benefit of the board if posting from that country would be disabled.
No.1574
>>1573>more Russophobic nonsense>Canadian flag>Ukrainian Canadians: 1,251,170 peopleOpinion discarded.
No.1575
>>1549I have posted previously. In the GOAT documentary thread for example among many others. However because I have a life I am not on here as much as others. I was also involved in the discussion about the movie of the week etc. In any case it's not really relevant. My opinion stands on it's own. If you don't agree give reasons instead of pretending that I don't participate here. Judging by how this thread has progressed in my absence I feel my point has been more than proven. Where is the rational cinephilicbrit guy when you need a voice of reason.
No.1577
>>1575Flags are good because:
They prevent blatant samefagging.
They help you identify shitposters over multiple threads unlike the ID.
They improve the overall quality of your posts because obviously you don't want your country to be recognized for just posting garbage.
They provide another dimension to the opinions about movies, you can see how for example a Spanish film is being viewed by people from Spain and how by foreigners.
Your main arguments for removing it seems to be that people will shitpost because of flags, but guess what, if somebody wants to do it, he will regardless of whether they are there or not.
No.1580
>>1577>They help you identify shitposters over multiple threads unlike the ID.That will only work as long this board stays small. There are, for example, multiple germans here already. That will only end with people shitting on one, or another country because of one bad apple.
>They improve the overall quality of your posts because obviously you don't want your country to be recognized for just posting garbage.That seems to be disproven by the russian shitposter in this thread. Personally I don't care about germanys reputation. I think there are plenty of anons who think similarly especially if they are the kind of indifferent moron that would shit up a board just for fun.
>They provide another dimension to the opinions about movies, you can see how for example a Spanish film is being viewed by people from Spain and how by foreigners.This could be interesting, however one could simply state ones country of origin in a post to provide that dimension to the discussion but I do see your point here now.
>Your main arguments for removing it seems to be that people will shitpost because of flags, but guess what, if somebody wants to do it, he will regardless of whether they are there or not.I am aware fools will be fools regardless but my worry is that flags will be an easy target for them. A lot of people then care enough, because they love their country, to fall into the trolls trap which disrupts the conversation.
In the end I suppose only time will tell. Of course I hope I am wrong but other boards on halfchan and their use of flags seem to indicate that as a board grows flags quickly become a nuisance.
No.1581
Does this thread help, OP?
No.1583
>>1580Why you gotta be so rude? ;_;
No.1585
>>1580Shitposters will still shitpost, without flags they will just call you a pleb or a pretentious hipster instead of a dumb German or a nazi.
Thanks to the flags people who visit the board often enough will learn to stop responding to people like that russian or that other shitposter from chile.
No.1587
>>1583I hate russians so god damn much
No.1589
>>1587Can someone explain to me what Tyrones deal is. I simply cannot get a grasp on who, what, where and how anything…
No.1590
>>1587>EstoniaWell you kinda have to somehow justify your otherwise meaningless existence.
No.1591
>>1589There's some site where you can pay people $5 to say something on video
Someone used that black guy and posted it on 4chan, it blew up and he became famous, then more people started using him for their maymays
No.1592
>>1590I justify my existence by beating up russian shits off the streets of my city during night time.
Every time I enter a bus during night time, i see a russian smelling of piss and beer on it. You people really are a disgrace.
No.1593
>>1585I don't believe you read what I wrote….
>I am aware fools will be fools regardless but my worry is that flags will be an easy target for them. A lot of people then care enough, because they love their country, to fall into the trolls trap which disrupts the conversation. No.1594
>>1591Thanks for that. I watched a video he did about how he supposedly makes a lot of money and all I could thin was: Is this guys some nigerian prince?
No.1595
>>1592Yeah, that was very funny :D
No.1597
>>1593I have read it, if you posted with the second sentence in mind I have not responded to it because you contradicted it earlier in your own post by the statement about people not caring about their countries.
So far I haven't seen a single instance of flags turning up in legitimate discussions so all your arguments are being based on what you think might happen instead of what actually is happening.
No.1598
Regarding flags: I think we should give it time until we have more posters/posts, then see what to do after. This board is still tiny compared to others. Speaking of which, how can we get more posters?
>>1594That would make a funny plot for a movie.
No.1600
>>1597I chose my words very carefully so I would not contradict myself. I chose to use the term indifferent morons because there are two kinds of people in this. The quality posters who might be offended and engage trolls and the trolls themselves who do not care about anything other then getting a rise out of someone. If it came across as me generalizing in either statement then that was not my intention.
As I've said in the end only time will tell, however I am basing my prediction on experiences on other boards that have had flags for a long time. Again it might be fine and I am hoping I will be wrong but history tends to repeat itself and I am a cautious person and like planning for all possibilities.
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No.1604
>>1600From what I recall there have been polls regarding flags on other 8chan boards and majority of the posters were in favor of them so clearly they can't be this much of a nuisance.
I think we can all agree that shitposting will exist with or without them, so the solution to the root of all problems is ignoring shitposters (something the flags might actually help with) and not removing features of the board because they might be used for trolling.
No.1605
>>1604He just wants this to be a hugbox where all posts are strictly on topic
No.1607
>>1604The majority isn't automatically right but fair enough (I meant halfchan anyways). As you said for now it isn't a problem. As for ignoring shitposters I will begin immediately by ignoring the post right after yours. Cheers.
No.1608
>>1607No need to be passive aggressive about it like a little bitch.
No.1609
>>1604Another great feature would be ID's with the included option to hide all the posts from that ID in the thread you're in.
No.1610
I think /film/ should have an upvote/downvote system so we can hide posts which hurt our feelings.
No.1621
>>1609Recommend me good estonian films please.
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No.1624
>>1621Püha Tõnu kiusamine
No.1633
>>1610This guy confirmed for being aware of Ernst Zundel and historical revisionism …?
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No.1668
All I want to do is make Pacific Rim threads, so yeah, I'd prefer if more mainstream movies could be discussed.
Fucking banefags and other bandwagon meme-spreaders ruin shit like this, I swear.
No.1811
>>1453Not really. Someone from Britain could be posting from America and vice versa, plus it's not like everybody has been living under one flag their entire lives.
No.1905
What should be the /film/ self moderation guide?
>No capeshit tolerated.
>No Nolan discussions or memes.
>No baneposting.
>No waifu/cunny threads.
>No fedoracore.
>No anime discussion besides anime movies.
>No celeb discussions or gossip.
No.3938
I've unlocked and reactivated this thread since the bump limit has been increased (to 750).
There's been no board discussion for a while, so here's the place to do to leave ideas, complaints, or suggestions if you have them. You can also see what people were thinking as the board was just getting started.
No.3971
We could maybe create and sticky a thread for people who are new to the board. A thread with suggestions, film lists (from letterboxd, mubi, etc.) and advice (trackers, media players, etc). This would stop threads like
>>3826 No.3974
>>3971Yeah, it might be helpful to have a thread for beginners with introductory information and related Q&A. I'll see about starting something later today.
No.3987
A board for "high" cinema/ obscure, art films and discussions.
No.5135
>>3987
Go create your board for high cinema and enjoy the 3 people that post there. You sound so pretentious it's nauseating.
No.5140
>>460
These are mostly good. I wouldn't be too hard on actor discussion though. Obviously Chlomo and waifu threads contribute nothing, but if someone wants to discuss an actors work in the medium then I'd say it should be allowed.
No.5142
>there are only films and auteurs
That sounds like a horrible idea.
No.5146
>>5142 agreed
>>145 agreed
>>149 agreed
>>303 agreed
No.6371
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Hey guys, have a look at the new /film/ board on 8chan beta: http://beta.8ch.net/film/
Post anything you want over there because it's just a temporary board until the site fully transfers over. The design is still under construction. Let me know if you have ideas for improvement.
I'm also looking for banners for the new site. (Banner editing has been disabled for months here.) You can post your submissions in the thread here >>46 or on the beta site.
> Banners must be < 500KB and have image dimensions 300px x 100px
No.6409
>>5135
/film/ already is that board and it's been great. I don't care if it's slow, I've had more in-depth discussions here with more intelligent posters than I've ever had in an cinema forum before.
>>5146
This open arms mindset is naive and asking for trouble. Imageboards are fragile communities, every imageboard that falls from an early point of high quality discussion does so because they lower their basic social guards against "cancer" - in quotes because its definition is particular to each board and in a lot of ways the topic of this thread. You can't just accept anything goes and cross your fingers that stupidity won't proliferate, you have to real standards with a community actively self-moderates to enforce them.
Yeah, pretentiousness can be annoying, especially obscurity for obscurity's sake, but on the other hand you have total amateurish non-enthuisasm which the rest of the internet accommodates so heavily and has already long existed in the english imageboard framework as /tv/. There's also a pull towards the cinephile's otaku-style databasing but it's not something that lends itself to imageboards
What's the value in a board that is 90% threads we've seen before on movies we're all familiar with? If someone makes a thread on The Dark Knight, I'm going to tell them to fuck off/lurk and all of you should, too. When the newfag OPs start to cross their arms and sit on the floor saying "I have just as much right to be here as you do!", hoping to enable any lurking cancer to engage in shitposting with, the board is lost.