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So Infinity Next is pretty much over (...for now). The software still does not work properly and HW had a falling out with the developer Josh: https://twitter.com/HW_BEAT_THAT/status/691419336775368704

Here's the stream of HW addressing the situation if you want more details (skip to 3:45) - http://b.1339.cf/engxndg.ogg

There's a sitewide poll ( http://poal.me/1kvhve ) about what people want to do moving forward -- fix Vichan, try Lynxchan ( http://lynxhub.com/ ), or attempt to salvage Next. Fix Vichan is currently winning.


I don't know of other film imageboards, either realtime or not. Realtime was suggested for Next but most people didn't seem to like it.

Board Watch is a similar feature I wish we had though. You'd be notified of new posts on designated boards without checking them.

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One more note to follow up on something mentioned above: I've set up an experimental alt board here:


You can use the board as a bunker in case this one goes down for maintenance, upgrades, DDoS, etc. You can also use it as a direct download hoster for files up to 350 MB. I'm using it to become familiar with Lynxchan, which might be the software that 8chan uses eventually:

<capone> how much work we put on vichan until we try the next option
<~copypaste> lynx will be tried after that
<~copypaste> i won't struggle with vichan for longer than a month
<~copypaste> before trying something else





Whole thing is even more messy if we read the recent installments of the saga, with HW denying everything in >>6610

All i know is that ∞chan is completely compromised in almost all fronts, and in case of (total site) crisis there's no permanent place other than xyz, and who knows if they want us.


Thankfully Infinity Next didn't work out. I hated it.

HW was last seen complaining that he didn't have enough help as admin. Perhaps that's true, but he didn't care very much either. He was barely around toward the end. And worse, he was dumb enough to put the whole site in Josh's hands.



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Here we go! Submit your favorite /film/s for the 8chan Top 250. We'll use this thread to discuss films that should and should not be included. Generally we want the list to reflect the nature of this board, so let's try to avoid mainstream titles. If you liked a recommendation from an old thread, or if you have a new suggestion to add to the list, now is the time to speak up.



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And what are your films? You never answered that part.


Peter Weibel, Endless Sandwich (1969) - cascade of technical difficulties

Peter Campus, Three Transitions (1973) - brilliant use of bluescreen

Herbert Pierre, Around Perception (1968) - epileptic madness

Woody Vasulka, Art of Memory (1987) - cheap 80s video effects make for a retrowave jaunt through history



>Three transitions.

Nicely done. I didn't think this list would get any better but you did it.

Art of Memory and the rest are meh though.


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>Virtually unknown as public screenings were prohibited by law



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Harvest was produced by the United States Information Agency to advertise US agriculture to foreign markets. For some bizarre reason USIA content could not be shown within the country.


Of course there's no good reason for the US government to use public funds to produce advertising for select industries which are perfectly capable of advertising for themselves. Morally dubious and totally inefficient use of money. Maybe this kind of stuff was done to keep the lobbyists happy.

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I'm looking for more of this type, particularly similar in style to those of the films in the images and funeral parade of roses.
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nevermind I guess, totally forgot about monoskop https://monoskop.org/images/8/87/Vogel_Amos_Film_as_a_Subversive_Art.pdf


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I think that pdf is not so good because it comes from html rather than a scan of the pages. It's like reading a 1990s website. While it's better than nothing, it needs an upgrade.

The actual book was surprisingly rare last I checked. Hardcover pretty expensive. It's not the greatest writing in the world, and the descriptions of each film are rather brief. But I'd still like to find a physical copy in good condition. It's a significant exploration of films outside the mainstream.



>not the greatest writing in the world

totally agree

I know why I don't read americans. I was sceptic a lot after discovering he's actually Vogelbaum and New Yorker, but didn't expect it to be sometimes more painful than cringey/funny. Anyway it's interesting to see that in '74 he seemed more than optimistic about collapse of capitalistic regimes

>a significant exploration of films outside the mainstream

it still is

I still can't find any reason whatsoever how could film devolve into video and further into shit.


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Don't tell me you forgot about Themroc?


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This thread reminded me of the Viennese Actionists. Their performance art is rather distasteful and I could only stand to watch for a few minutes when I first heard of them. My memory is that naked people were flopping around slapping chicken meat on themselves.

Maybe I'd feel differently about watching this garbage now, who knows.

I remembered the name Otto Muhl, so I decided to read about the man. Wikipedia says, "Otto Muehl (16 June 1925 – 26 May 2013) was an Austrian sex offender and artist, who was known as one of the co-founders as well as a main participant of Viennese Actionism and for founding the Friedrichshof Commune." Sounds like a class act.

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This thread should serve the purpose of the sharing and discussing of new and upcoming films. I'll start with the film November.

>In a Medieval Estonian village, a group of peasants use magic and folk remedies to survive the winter, and a young woman tries to get a young man to love her.

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Is this as bad as it looks? The retro poster got me interested and M83 does the music. But the trailer looks repulsive.

The story is about women making gay porn in the 70s. That sound ridiculous. Why would women make gay porn?


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Sunset (2018)

directed by László Nemes

A Hungarian historical drama set on the eve of World War I

<"Sunset is about a civilization at its crossroads," Nemes said Tuesday in a statement issued by the Hungarian National Film Fund. "In the heart of Europe at the height of progress and technology, without being written in history, the personal story of a young woman becomes the reflection of the birth of the 20th century."



> the personal story of a young woman becomes the reflection of the birth of the 20th century

That sounds a lot like My Twentieth Century


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Walking in Darkness (2019)

directed by Tang Tang

A grim thriller from China. I don't have a plot summary because there is not much information about this film yet. But the trailer is intense,



>Why would women make gay porn?

Not to fag the thread up but a lot of gay porn producers are women, or pioneering women aka trannies.

Seems like they had the vision to make movies most men would find uncomfortable to film, and it seems no gay was smart enough to operate a camera, find crucial contacts, publishers and warehouses/rooms to do the banging, homos just did all their action spontaneously.

Also you need a somewhat respectable public image to do all that bidding, even in porno market, and women usually look more respectable than a strong dude with an overly silly lisp.

At least that's what i understood after reading Sharon Kane and Chi Chi LaRue stories, 2 important characters in a famed gay porn company known lately for appearing in edited joke videos about bad acting in gay porn movies. That's for the early years, nowadays it's a whole 'nother story.

I-i'm not gay, i just watch the joke vids for laughs at times. The poster looks quite pretentious, but who knows.

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Post your /film/ related webm here!

OC is best … but share any clips that you find mindblowing, funny, bizarre, unique, etc.

I think the only limit imposed by the site is that files must be < 8 MB.
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whoa nice clip

I wonder how often they cheat on shots like that. It seem like they could seamlessly paste footage together if they wanted.


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Let's have a thread specifically for longer content.

I don't watch television series since I'd prefer spend that time on, say, 10 completely different films. But I'm open to watching mini-series, a format situated between regular feature films and TV series. (It's just rare that I actually do it.)

Has /film/ seen any good mini-series (or old serials)? What long films have you seen, did you watch them in one day, and were they worth the time?

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>Ken Jacobs - Star Spangled to Death (2004)


I'm all in favor of revealing uncomfortable truths about our society, but this is really enraging. It demands a detailed rebuttal. I don't know if I'm up to the task but first I'll have to force myself to finish watching.



>long kino thread

>no heimat

>no berlin alexanderplatz




>no berlin alexanderplatz

read the first reply


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Looking for films with an archaic or medieval kind of setting. Any recs?

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he's Slovak, oops


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This dignified and stylized film, set in the Middle Ages, follows the exploits of Sir Perceval, a legendary exemplar of knightly chivalry and one of the champions of King Arthur's Round Table. The story is based on the verse tale Perceval ou le Conte del Graal as recounted by the 12th-century French belletrist Chrétien de Troyes. While living with his widowed mother, the young Perceval (Fabrice Luchini) is much impressed by the grandeur of the knights he sees, and he undertakes to become one.



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DeMille gives a positive account of the Crusades with exciting battle scenes for the time. This was 1935 so I wonder when public perception on the Crusades shifted to be more negative, as it was when I first learned of them.


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Yuri Ilyenko's Legend of Princess Olga takes place in Kievan Rus' as Christianity replaces paganism. On his deathbed in 1015, Vladimir the Great is haunted by the enigmatic life of his grandmother Olga of Kiev. Her life inspired many legendary tales, ranging from tragic lost love to heartless acts of cruelty. Vladimir wants to separate truth from myth - if it's even possible for him (or us) to know for sure.

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Excluding new releases, which films do you want to watch but cannot find?

I'm intrigued by Once, an allegorical dialogue-free feature that premiered at Cannes in 1974. The film could be fascinating or boring as hell, but the soundtrack of lo-fi ambient electronics would make it worthwhile to find out.


It's reasonable to assume the film still exists somewhere. Hopefully it becomes publicly available eventually.
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The Cuckoo Clocks of Hell is a lost horror film. It's been said that the film is so graphic and violent that is caused mass hysteria in the theaters where all the viewers were attacking each other in their moment of insanity. Because of hysteria, the film got banned and it was toned down and cut from 3 hours to 78 minutes under the name "Last House on Dead End Street". Rumor has it that the original film still exists in New York's film archives.



Assuming this isn't just a marketing stunt, theoretically where would you need to go to find this movie in New York? There are dozens of archives here.


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> the soundtrack itself is astounding.

yeah it's worth a spin. I wonder why there's no movie



Pinocchio 964

Can't see it online for some reason. (Free)



It can't be lost if it's on Amazon. If you want links you should try the request thread.

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>ITT: favourite war films from.


Lawrence of Arabia
Schindler's list (fuck off I like it)
Apocalypse now
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What do you guys know about Jerzy Hoffman? He made a lot of historical war epics in Poland

Colonel Wolodyjowski (1969) aka Pan Wolodyjowski

>In 1668 Polish colonel Michael Wolodyjowski, who recently retired to a monastery, is recalled to active duty and takes charge of Poland's eastern frontier defenses against invading Tatar hordes and Ottoman armies.

The Deluge (1974) aka Potop

>During the 1655 war between Protestant Sweden and Catholic Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth some Polish-Lithuanian nobles side with Swedish king Charles X Gustav while others side with the Polish king Jan Kazimierz.

With Fire and Sword (1999) aka Ogniem i mieczem

>An epic story about the Ukrainian uprising against the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth magnates in the 17th Century.

Army of Valhalla (2003) aka Stara basn. Kiedy slonce bylo bogiem

>In the 9th century, a tyrant oppresses pre-Christian Slavic tribes living on the Polish lands. They must unite for the common future.

Battle of Warsaw 1920 (2011) aka 1920 Bitwa Warszawska

>The First Polish 3D Feature Film! Poland's winning battle against Soviet Russia as seen through the eyes of two young protagonists, Ola and Jan. She is a Warsaw cabaret dancer, while he is a cavalry officer and poet who believes in socialist ideals.

The last two have poor ratings but I'd like to see the others



I don't watch Jewish films.



But didn't you just suggest The Cremator in the top 250 thread?




>Matthias Scheisshöfer

Erbärmlich uezs.

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Does anyone here listen to film podcasts? What's good?
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I listen to Funhaus movie podcast, they're cucks and plebs but it's entertaining



>I went into Reddit, expecting them not to act like Redditors.



I like Blank Check with Griffin and David, but I've learned which episodes to avoid. Basically any movie with mildly political themes or anything with a female guest is guaranteed to be liberal bullshit, which is a shame because the episodes that are just the two of them are pretty funny. Not super insightful or in-depth, but there's some really funny episodes mixed in with all the pozzed virtue signaling crap.



Hey the america cinema foundation ones are good. The host is conservative but he isn't preachy and he does't reeeeee about anything left wing. He sucks the godfathers dick at every available opportunity at every opportunity. The episodes with paul cantor are great and interesting. He made me like breaking bad even more than I already did. Hes very knowledgeable about Shakespeare as well. Give him a shot. I learned about it through this thread and have been loving it



I meant to say at every available opportunity despite it being very left wing

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I want to get into this. Are there any good websites to follow? Film festivals?

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>Francoist Symbol

Definitely /pol/


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There's an amazing photo in that video. I'd never seen it before.


Also during the Spanish Civil War section, there seemed to be a gringo reading news in Spanish. I wonder what that was about?



Gondola webms


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There's a big DVD collection of video art called Surveying the First Decade. I've seen some but not nearly all of it.

http://www.vdb.org/titles/surveying-first-decade-volume-1 +


This comprehensive anthology on the history of experimental and independent video is an essential tool for teachers, libraries, and researchers. Volumes 1 and 2 include over 16 hours of historic video on eight thematically curated programs, exploring conceptual, performance-based, image-processed, feminist, documentary and grassroots community-based genres.

Program 1: Explorations of Presence, Performance, and Audience

Performer/Audience/Mirror, Dan Graham, 1975, 22:45

Selected Works (Dog Duet, Used Car Salesman, Dog Biscuit in Glass Jar), William Wegman, 1972, 08:44

Baldessari Sings LeWitt, John Baldessari,1972, 03:38 (excerpted from 12:50)

Undertone, Vito Acconci, 1972, 09:15 (excerpted from 37:20)

Vertical Roll, Joan Jonas, 1972, 19:37

My Father, Shigeko Kubota, 1975, 14:46

Exchange, Robert Morris, 1973, 36:02

Program 2: Investigations of the Phenomenal World: Space, Sound, and Light

Black and White Tapes, Paul McCarthy, 1970-75, 06:30 (excerpted from 33:00)

Stamping In The Studio, Bruce Nauman, 1968, 05:00, (excerpted from 1:01:35)

Double Vision, Peter Campus, 1971, 14:22

Boomerang, Richard Serra with Nancy Holt, 1974, 10:27

Island Song, Charlemagne Palestine, 1976, 16:02

Cycles of 3s and 7s, Tony Conrad, 1976, 02:51 (excerpted from 30:54)

The Children's Tapes, Terry Fox, 1974, 29:36

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Program 5: Performance of Video-Imaging Tools

Calligrams, Steina and Woody Vasulka, 1970, 04:00 (excerpted from 12:00)

Illuminatin' Sweeney, Skip Sweeney, 1975, 05:00, (excerpted from 28:38)

Video Weavings, Stephen Beck, 1976, 04:06 (excerpted from 28:00)

Five-minute Romp through the IP, Dan Sandin, 1973, 06:34

Triangle in Front of Square in Front of Circle in Front of Triangle, Dan Sandin, 1973, 01:40

Video-Taping, Ernest Gusella, 1974, 02:41

Exquisite Corpse, Ernest Gusella, 1978, 08:23

Einstine, Eric Siegel, 1968, 05:22

General Motors, Phil Morton, 1976, 10:25 (excerpted from 1:00:00)

Merce by Merce by Paik, Nam June Paik, 1978, 27:27

Crossings and Meetings, Ed Emshwiller, 1974, 04:04 (excerpted from 27:33)

Complex Wave Forms, Ralph Hocking, 1977, 04:11 (excerpted from 05:00)

Pictures of the Lost, Barbara Buckner, 1978, 08:04 (excerpted from 23:00)

Video Locomotion (man performing forward hand leap), Peer Bode, 1978, 04:56

Music on Triggering Surfaces, Peer Bode, 1978, 03:06

C-Trend, Woody Vasulka, 1974, 07:19 (excerpted from 09:00)

Switch! Monitor! Drift!, Steina Vasulka, 1976, 03:48

Program 6: Decentralized Communications Projects

Mayday Realtime, David Cort and Mary Curtis Ratcliff, 1971, 10:27 (excerpted from 1:00:00)

People's Video Theater (Women's Liberation March NYC, Gay Pride March NYC, Young Lords Occupy Manhattan Church, Native American Action at Plymouth Rock), People's Video Theatre (Elliot Glass and Ken Marsh), 1970-72, 28:22 Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Whose visual style is most appealing to you (and why)?

One of my favorites is Vittorio Storaro, pic related. I never knew the name until I started watching early 70s gialli, particularly The Fifth Cord and Le Orme. Those films (and his work with Argento and Bertolucci) had a strong impact on me, more than his later movies that everyone has seen. I love his chiaroscuro of vibrant colors and deep blacks, the repeated use of parallel lines, and the scenes enveloped in light blue haze.
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Darius Khondji was DP on Delicatessen, Se7en, Amour, Funny Games (2007), The City of Lost Children, The Lost City of Z, Alien: Resurrection, Stealing Beauty, Okja.


To get familiar, an excerpt from a new book of interviews with him: https://ascmag.com/articles/book-excerpt-conversations-with-darius-khondji

And a general career overview: https://mubi.com/notebook/posts/the-cinematographer-is-in-jordan-mintzer-s-conversations-with-darius-khondji


When you take on a project, how do you begin to visualize it in terms of the framing, the lighting and the overall look you want to give the film?

I would say that’s one of the hardest things for me as a cinematographer: finding the key that unlocks the film in a visual sense, that will illuminate the story so you’re inspired and excited about shooting it everyday for a long time — because when you decide to do a movie it can take anywhere from three months to a year of your life. When I find that key, it ignites what I call the “big bang.”


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Cinematographer Cameos

<This fun montage screened during the 28th Annual ASC Awards ceremony in 2013 and includes onscreen cameos made by cinematographers in a variety of motion picture and television projects.



I had always thought that Tron was filmed entirely in 65-mm.



Yes it was, but 65mm is the width of the film

That chart shows the focal lengths of lenses

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-Terrence Malick is the best filmmaker so far IMO. His recent work is really in it's own territory. Knight of Cups is something special.

-David Fincher is just the best example of a technically air tight film constructor. Never seen something from him that wasn't extremely well constructed. Very clinical.

Sometimes the scripts he chooses seem beneath him though.

-George Lucas appeals to me personally, as I identify with him and the themes of his six films (Growing up and letting go vs. failure to do so. His first three films deal with characters being able to move on, and his last three deal with someone who can't, and who is consumed by his fear instead of overcoming it.)

He is a technically poor/uneven filmmaker, but he is like Grant Morrison for me, where his concepts excite me so much that the execution is of secondary concern. If that makes any sense.

And yes, I am aware that these men are "entry level", not euro, etc.

But unlike other boards, I would expect this place to nonetheless respect that the people i've listed have made great films (before you shout about Lucas, watch THX 1138), no matter how popular they are.

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>It's almost like negativity goes uncontested more than positivity online.

I'm sure that's true

With directors I have a hard time listing favorites. I like so many of them that I don't know when to end the list and I'm bound to forget a few

The directors that I dislike are few in number so they stand out more




Snyder is anything but shallow. He's one of the most faithful directors to the "show, don't tell" rule I've ever seen. One thing he never resorts to is spoon-feeding the audience. He makes them actually think and engage in actively watching his films, as opposed to passively watching, like with most capeshit. The way he illustrates practically every frame with a smorgasbord of unique color suited to the mood of the film and imagery that's poignantly and tightly connected to the narrative at hand is second to none. It's a stimulus of which is absolutely unparalleled in modern cinema. I have yet to see anyone actually replicate his distinct style.

>2 hours of talking

>implying that's not every movie ever


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I'm pretty happy to find this video feature on Bill Morrison. It only has 245 views! I'd never seen an interview with him, much less an exploration of his background and his work.



whoa, Decasia was intended for 3 screens at once


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No man before or since has ever understood the strengths of film to his level, and the way that popular film ought to be made.

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Post 'em if you got 'em

But maybe not the same Star Wars images that always show up
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Stan Brakhage shooting in Pittsburgh, 1975


Letting aside some mainstream shit, this is the best thread of the board.

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Welcome to Letterboxd general. Post your Letterboxd profiles, follow others, call them pretentious assholes, and discuss movies.

What's everyone watching today, /lbg/?
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Exactly the type of reply that's to be expected from you. It essentially displays your entire vocabulary.


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Let me know what I should get to next on my watchlist: https://letterboxd.com/cameraman_one/watchlist/

Attached are movies and miniseries I've given a perfect 5/5, although I've weighed cutting one or two out of this group.


Does it use a thumbs up/down system as opposed to 0-5 stars on Letterboxd?


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Yes, ICM lets you fave or dislike what you have watched. If you have no strong feelings, you just click on the checkmark and move on. While there is not much focus rating and reviewing films, the site is more competitive than lbx because you are ranked against all other users for what you have watched.

As for recommendations I see you have some Cagney and Muni gangster movies in your watchlist. So I'll recommend my #1 film from each actor: White Heat (1949) and I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang (1932).


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Right, thank you for the recommendations. As luck so had it, I saw the original ‘’Scarface’’ just yesterday along with the other Howard Hughes classic, ‘’Hell’s Angels’’, and loved every bit of both.

>Yes, ICM lets you fave or dislike what you have watched.

I wish that was a mandatory thing on Letterboxd, actually. The attachment shows how I use the like button to denote what I’d recommend, but use of it like that is pretty much up to the discipline of the user.

>While there is not much focus rating and reviewing films, the site is more competitive than lbx because you are ranked against all other users for what you have watched.

So I’d be ranked in the amount of films logged or by some other metric? That sounds interesting, I ought to give that a try.



On ICM you get ranked for how many films you've watched on Official Lists.


There are 190 official lists, some for the obvious (IMDb Top 250) and others for more interesting exploration (Jonathan Rosenbaum's Essential Films). There are lists by decade, by country, by genre.

You win awards as you get closer to completing a list.

It's handy and kind of fun.

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