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Anyone seen this?

>Venerated filmmaker Sergei Eisenstein (Elmer Bäck) travels to Mexico to shoot his new film after being shunned by Hollywood. There he has a sensual experience that becomes a significant turning point in his life and career.

>Dir. by Peter Greenaway

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I saw it at a festival. It's the best thing he's done in like... twenty years.



that sounds encouraging

I missed my chance to see it but I'm glad you guys seem to like it


sd & dvd versions are on KG


>gay communist on vacation

Isn't this a required viewing in Swedish schools?


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I think it could be a good idea to start this board off with some OC, what do you think?

I've made this, it's a work in progress and I think it should be a group endeavor to include the most diverse tastes, so if you think something should be edited/added/removed feel free to contribute.

I've also made a template if someone else feels like making their own grid (I'm also looking for suggestions on other themes), you can download it here:

It's very easy to edit: I've grouped the titles and the posters together, to add a poster (or a screenshot if the latter is not available) simply copy the image, select the grey rectangle with magic wand and paste into (Ctrl+Alt+Shift+V) so you don't have to worry about them being aligned.
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How many of them did you order?

I'm the guy who didn't like it. I think it was the third Fassbinder I saw, so maybe you heard correctly. It was slower than expected and I got impatient with it.


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I ordered 4 different collections of his:

Fassbinder on Melodrama:




Fassbinder on Terror

-Mother Küsters Goes to Heaven

-The Third Generation

Fassbinder on Society


-Chinese Roulette

-Satan's Brew

Fassbinder: The Gangster Films

-Love is Colder Than Death

-Gods Of the Plague

-The American Soldier

and The Merchant of four seasons

Haven't touched his stuff before, but heard it was worth it-

I've approached entry and mid level art house films by country- I started with Japan (Kurosawa/Ozu/Nakagawa) now I'm heading down German way hence the purchase




Why would you buy all his works without even trying if you like any of his films or not first?


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Well firstly there is a small part of me thats intrigued by Werner himself, I find his destructive lifestyle interesting and I want to know more about hime through his films

But the main reason is the availability of films here in Australia is trash. Obtaining this stuff legally is hard to do, our main outlet is Madman Entertainment who provide a lot of great stuff but it's no where near as expansive as say the criterion collection. So i figure the more support I can give to fuel their expansion the better.

On top of that I pirated a lot of stuff and I feel like making amends.



from what I've seen he's great anyways, you have nothing to fear

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Anyone know where i can find and download the original cut for Salò?


Do you mean the BFI version? I remember hearing that Criterion omits a little bit



I think there are three versions, but I'm not sure about one.

The one i picked from the library is 110min, i think criterion's is 116min and Wikipedia mentions that the original cut is 146min, that's the one I'm looking for, thing is i don't know if it could be found somewhere, if that's the case then I'll have to go with criterion's.



You're right. Here are the current releases:


I can't find much useful information about the missing footage. It was cut and now it's lost.



Well fuck, thanks anyway.

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never seen this before

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I guess it takes Italian film makers to mention Jews in a film about American slavery. Never ever seen a film that ever mentions them in connection to slavery of africans.



hmm, i wonder who makes the slavery movies


i've never seen a movie about the slave trade itself. how was it handled in Roots and Amistad?


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Can anyone identify what film this still is from? I know it's James Coburn in the picture, but besides that I have no idea. Reverse searching got me nothing.



My guess is the photo was taken around 1973. Nothing in his filmography seems to fit. Are you sure it's from a movie?

Maybe this person on fb knows more about it


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If any of you have seen The Wild Angels, why does Blues let himself get arrested in the end?

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I like this Dennis Hopper documentary The American Dreamer. It was filmed on Hopper's land in New Mexico while he was trying to finish post-production for The Last Movie.

The documentary was a VHS-only gem until a month ago. I'm very interested to watch it again with this new release.

The Last Movie is not very good though. Jodorowsky told him to experiment narrative and editing, but the result is mostly a mess.


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There are times when you'll wonder whether there is a plot being followed. They're a gang who embody bestial nihilism, even towards each other at times.

I was first attracted to by their usage of swastikas, and wondered whether that symbol had any place in any sort of pre-war, pre-60's leftism counter culture.



It must be to rustle jimmies, make society mad, show your group's edginess.

I guess punks did a similar thing in the early 80s. In the 90s zine culture was fascinated by Nazis (along with serial killers and other crazy shit).

And now anti-establishment corners of internet have their turn with the FUCK YOU swastika fetish.



It's a fuck you to the establishment. I don't think a lot of guys even looked at it as a racial thing back then, more of a fuck the system, we're edgy and we like to get fucked up.

Something like that.


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What kind of movies did you enjoy as a child, and do you still think any of them have merit?


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Under 10? Mostly cartoons ... not too many actual movies aside from live-action Disney. Def not anything like Lawrence of Arabia.

I think those movies have merit for kids. I'm guessing the classics (made before I was born) are better than new kids movies.

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The Deserter and the Nomads

The Hypothesis of the Stolen Painting

Entranced Earth

The Counterfeit Coin

Electra, My Love

La Terra Trema


Burying Old Alive

The Temptation of St. Tony

Let’s Go with Pancho Villa


Black Cross

Alexander the Great


what exactly are you going for here



I don't know either, maybe it belongs in the Jodo thread?



i haven't seen any of these, but reading a few quick summaries that seems reasonable. might check some of these out


what movie is the first still from. looks promising


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Krzyzacy AKA Black Cross (1960)


it's actually in color. i don't know if that makes it better or worse.

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Cinema's most important aspect is the aesthetics.

It's the logical axiom of cinema, the first and therefore absolute truth to the medium. Meaning that, in a rough manner, sounds and storyline coherence are secondary to the will of aesthetic.

Following the systematic distribution of categories within cinema, it's logical to affirm that the diegetic structure of the mimesis is what matters the most, as it's closely vinculated to the roots of the medium itself.

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Do u hav autism fam?


You remind me I've always wanted to translate 10k words long interview with German. It goes on painfully slow so cheer me up.




Do you speak Russian? I've done amateur subtitle translation and it can be a difficult task. The best way I've found is to make sure you keep your momentum -- do a little each day and don't break the routine. If you take to much time away from the job, it is harder to restart.



I can't force you to do it, and I can't promise any payment for your work, but I can assure you that I'll give it a read.


i remember when i was a noob

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We pitch a premise for a short film. Preferably something that won't take a lot of production and can be done with few to none extra-resources.

>character is trapped into a room with a ghost

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That reminds me, I love Japan



that would be cool but....

muh psuedo anonymous image board



hm? a bunch of people here made music videos



I'm working on a short film right now. I'll let you all know when it's done.

Remember: if you are making a short film, make it as refinished as possible; the most important aspects to emphasize are the montage and the execution of mise-en-scene to engross the possibilites of mimetic exegesis of the work.



Cool I'll be watching. I agree with >>6186 about the OC people have posted here.

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Where can I buy Guido's glasses?


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Huh, I took it for granted that those iconic glasses would be easier to buy. Can't even find a picture of the (unconfirmed) model.


> Our best guess — with the help of Allyn Scura — is that MM's glasses are a Safilo frame from the early '60s.

Supposedly the 8 1/2 sunglasses are Prada SPR07F

These Persol 649s are kind of cool too, even if you barely recognize him

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>The film uses slower speed frame rates with the camera shutter open more (to show the “flashes of light”) to create a dream-like motion with all the blurriness.

I'm looking for films that make use of this same technique but in a more throughout manner. Thank you.


Well silent comedies are usually undercranked a bit. But that creates a different effect: to heighten the action when the film is played back at normal speed.

Aside from other WKW or Christopher Doyle films I can't think of many that use this dreamlike slow shutter more effectively than Chungking Express. Maybe some big budget action movies have a scene or two that resembles it...Gladiator, Saving Private Ryan?


Fallen Angels is similar enough but with a bit darker tone.

that aesthetic in particular seems resigned to the early to mid/late 90s and I don't think anyone pulls it off quite like Wong Kar-wai.



Try Days of Being Wild

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I thought it was aesthetically efficient. I liked the offbeat tone and the disregard to standard filmic narrative. I also liked the combination of a sterile and gritty dreamlike Paris (devoid of any charm and magic) habited by marginal and borderline grotesque characters, going opposite to what is often being promoted by the media. But at the end of the film I realized it was nothing to write home about. A very simplistic and carefully constructed story done with occasional doses of flare and passion, surprisingly never losing the diegetic ground for unconvenient mistakes that might've prejudiced viewing immersion. A precise film.

I'd like to hear what you folks thought about this one.


I liked it, simplicity and all. I'll grant you that the ending didn't amount to much, but up to that point it kept me guessing. I thought we'd probably see beautiful Paris, and perhaps there would be more conflict between Jules and Jean (the boat love triangle trope). Vigo's writing and Michel Simon's acting were both sharp.

It also had several silent movie sequences. Most people probably don't even think about it, but the wordless montages of characters wandering around the streets is a silent era construct. It's fun to spot these silent sequences in sound films; John Ford is another director who used them a lot.

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For me, is the fade away. It is useless. Other than expressing a relation of brief temporal/spatial shift between a two determined events (A and B) it is succintly limited and archaic as a form of communicating ideas.

A fade away inside the current filmic system is bound to failure. A modern hollywood film averages 2000-3000 cuts. In this case a fade might even break a film's diegetic reality.

A filmmaker that indulges with this technique is deriding the medium, attempting to prove something by asserting a domain of montage which he clearly does not retain. Thus the use of this technique should be energetically disencouraged.

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Outdated or not, I wish closeups were used much more sparingly. If there's only one or two per film suddenly the closeup has more power.

I guess actors want to be seen and audiences want to see them. But it's not very interesting to look at one face, then another, then back ... continuously. There are many other unique things to do with visual composition. I'm hoping larger TV screens help trend away from this overused shooting style.



that's just lazy 'talking head' technique. i think that's been pretty constantly present in films where the creators don't really care that much about being 'artistic' or whatever



Agree with this 100%. Taking away other character's reactions to the conversation and their environment removes complexity and creates boring scenes.



I think the close up can be used quite well, like that one in one flew over the cuckoo's nest where the camera just seemed to linger on nicholson's face for what seemed like an eternity.



Close-ups can be very effective when combined with a good work on the montage. I agree with you though, today filmmakers are more focused on using it as a quick and cheap method of building up tension rather than forming a coherent filmic language.

Truth is, they pander to the short span of modern masses. This generation of mainstrean moviegoers grew up watching television and video entertainment - bad entertainment - more than any other, and this fact unfortunately reflects on the overall state of cinema today. It's quite sad.

Well, anyway, I prefer a tracking shot with a precise and dynamic blocking rather than an abrupt zoom in a subject. Of course that's just me.

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whqt movies made you laugh without using comedian actors
just plain old good writing
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Well, just start a thread for streams and post there (next time). It works better to add to a stream thread than this one.



I will run They Live, starting 15 minutes after the end of Plan 9 From Outer Space, over at:


This is in addition to tomorrow's warm-up show.



30 minutes until the first movie starts, meatbags!



A Matter of Life and Death is absolutely sex.


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Miquette et sa mere is like watching a funny play. The actors play it big. But I just read that

> Audiences at the time favored Claude Autant-Lara’s superior Feydeau adaptation Occupe-toi d’Amelie!

so that's worth a look too. The title sounds like an inspiration for OP's film don't you think?

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Why do so many people seem to dislike Tom Cruise films?

I realize he's a terrible person and a Scientologist, but he's a great actor and is fantastic to watch on the screen.

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Because outside being popcorn movies they're not much else.

Oblivion's best parts are the cinematography, M:I was a De Palma ride, Minority Report is messy trash.


me me i'm a tom hanks man


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How do you feel about Collateral?

I've heard it described as a "Tom Cruise movie for people who don't like Tom Cruise"

I still loved it though.



I don't like it that much, I had higher expectations after seeing Heat, Miami Vice and Insider.



>and a Scientologist

This is pretty much the only reason for people. Aliens froze your emotions is apparently so much more retarded that it offends the tricky snake forced an apple crowd beyond respecting anything he does as an actor.

That being said, he's functionally been out of it for a good while. Valkyrie was the last thing he did that I'd consider /film/ tier and Eyes Wide Shut was definitely his peak.

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