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A discord film club

for cinephiles

if you like

Bresson, Godard, Antonioni, Rossellini, Varda, Pasolini, Bing,Hou Hsiao-Hsien, Lav Diaz, Iosseliani, Tarr, Dreyer, Visconti, Rousseau, Farocki, Piavoli, Grillet, Rohmer, Kiarostami, Akerman, Sembene, Sokurov, Nemec, etc

you'll like the group

comfy people no trolling and deviant behaviour


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Gotta say I checked them out both and the first one seems only to be very unfocused casual conversation and shitposting with hardly anyone active while the second one is a very well-practised circle jerk between the same 7-9 people. Film discussion is rarely more than a few sentences.



>between the same 7-9 people. Film discussion is rarely more than a few sentences.

This is not true at all. More people than that have posted yesterday alone and there are longer posts in the #film-club channel than anything you will find on this board.



I got kicked out after first post.

Well, I scrolled the history of the #film-club messages over the past month and I couldn't find any "long posts". There are a lot of shitposts in the channels, I did not find any discussions at all, sometimes people asked "What do you think about %film_name%?", but nobody answered.



There were lengthy discussions about Syberberg, Pialat and Piavoli in the film club channel.



>I got kicked out after first shitpostpost.

Ftfy. There are plenty of long posts about Syberberg's films which was only one filmclub ago, so clearly you haven't scrolled too far.

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Welcome to /film/. I tossed up a few temp banners, but feel free to add yours here.

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We need new banners for 2018, so I have been adding new ones every few days. I'd be happy to add yours too. You can post new banners or banner ideas right here anytime.


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Yes, just like that. We needed more action oriented banners so I'm glad that's what you made.

The total is currently 60 banners so there's a 1/15 chance of seeing these.

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What are some right-wing (social) movies and documentaries? What are some of these /film/ endorsed movies? Bring it on!

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First time they met.



>if you criticize Obama you can't be a leftist

Correction: If you criticize Obama, you can't be a liberal. Leftists and liberals are not the same thing.

Us leftists despise liberals because they're apologists for capitalism and easily fall for identity politics. Associating them with us is downright insulting.




You've got good taste.



Do you know this guy's films? What else can you tell us about him?


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We the Living - censored, lost, rediscovered Italian adaptation of Ayn Rand's first book

<We the Living (originally released in 1942 as two films, Noi vivi and Addio Kira) is a film adaptation of Ayn Rand's novel We the Living. It was directed by Goffredo Alessandrini and stars Alida Valli, Rossano Brazzi, and Fosco Giachetti. It was made and released in Italy during World War II, then subsequently banned by the Fascist government and pulled from theaters. The film was lost and forgotten for decades, then found and restored with Rand's involvement. The film was released for the first time in the United States in 1986.


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Bear with me... Okay what individual or studio was labeled as the "Russian Disney?" I remember reading about these russian films based on fairy tales and they had elaborate sets. Anyone know what I am talking about?

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Thanks! Do you recommend anything from Melnitsa?



I dunno, I'm not big fan of fairy tales and I have not watched their cartoons for a long time.

They released interesting adult oriented adaptation of famous Russian poem ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_Fedot_the_Strelets ), but the poem can't be translated into other languages.


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Yes, that's it.

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Hey gang, I made an experimental short and want to submit to a film festival.

Unfortunately everything I've seen on Withoutabox wants me to upload video to Vimeo and send them the link.

Is there any other festivals I could submit it too where I can just mail a dvd?

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yes what is the source of that gif


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Nope it's not. Just something cool I picked up along the way.


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one more


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Sup guys, heard back from the 2nd film festival. I didn't get picked. They didn't list a reason, just a "thanks but no-thanks" canned response.



Too bad. How many are left to respond?

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So I'd like to do a thread of people I feel like got lucky. Either it was being in the right place at the right time, or being surrounded by talented people who fixed up their work and made them look a bit better.

So post a film maker who you feel got lucky. Explain why.

George lucas. While having the vision to create some things that a bunch of people loved, we all know that the original cut of star wars was a mess. Over and over again, through the countless efforts of great people he surrounded himself with, lucas reaped the benefits and by casual movie lovers, is considered a visionary. The truth of the matter is that I believe dearly, and truly that no one else managed to get nearly as lucky as lucas did.

But who else did? I know that there are more.

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Michael Bay is one of the most likely filmmaker to be called vulgar auteur in the cinephile community. Same goes for PWS Anderson. And tbh I would thoroughly think about it before simply disagreeing just because hating Bay/Lucas/etc. is the smart nerd's opinion.

Also how do you not know Richard Brody?



>PWS Anderson.

My man. Event Horizon has flashes of talent.



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I do think Lucas is the most overlooked filmmaker of our time.

Not in vulgar auteurism way, but in a "he's wildly imaginative and his movies have such a range of powerful images and a lot in the way of theming as well". Kind of way.

He's more than overlooked because of how much of a laughing stock he's become to people who haven't worked with him.

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What are your favorite Samurai films, /film/? I'm a huge fan of the genre, Harakiri is my favorite. I also like the Zatoichi series, all of the Kurosawa ones, Lone Wolf and Cub, and Sword of Doom. I'm looking for lesser known Samurai flick recommendations, so let me know what you guys's favorites are
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Why no mention of Shogun Assassin?



It's kind of the same thing as Lone Wolf and Cub


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I just finished Yojimbo, I didn't nearly like it as much as Harakiri, it felt more like popcorn entertainment than a film because of the goofy acting and awkward pacing.


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I was underwhelmed by Yojimbo too, probably because I expected something better. It was one of the first Kurosawa films I watched; it took a while for me to watch another from him. It's definitely nowhere near Harakiri.

For me, the Leone connection is the most interesting aspect of Yojimbo.



It was very lighthearted in comparison to other works, but i found the use of black & white in particular very, very good.

The use of rich textures and their respective light and shadow results to create dense-to-the-eye backgrounds is excellent, sometimes with movement too (flowing sake madness, the silly encounter in the middle of smoking the mansion, destroyed guard house).

Sounds pretentious but that kind of level of detail did impress me, especially when it was one of the first Kurosawa i saw too.

Sanjuro takes on a slightly more serious note but it's just as silly later on in terms of violence and some acting. It does retain the quality level in most aspects, it wasn't a shameless sequel.

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Post your ten favourite films and others in the thread give you recs based upon that list.

In no particular order:


>Parsifal (Syberberg)

>Nostos: The Return

>A Canterbury Tale

>The Leopard

>Die Nibelungen

>The Plea

>Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors

>Picnic at Hanging Rock

>Marketa Lazarova

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And to follow Daisies and Valerie I will recommend a couple more Czech films: Mala morska vila (The Little Mermaid) and Morgiana. Both of these are

If you are feeling adventurous you could also try The Deserters and the Nomads by Slovak director Juraj Jakubisko. This one has "surrealistic sensory overload" as imdb says. You may not enjoy it if you are just starting out, it's sometimes hard to follow, but I'd say it's one of the most interesting CZSK films of the late 1960's.



Sorry I don't know what happened to my comment "Both of these are"

Both of them will give you more flavours of the wonderful Czech New Wave aesthetic



You're on the right path if that's any encouragement. Check out Marketa Lazarova. It's often mentioned on /film/ and for good reason. Make sure that you're in the right mood.





Thank you for the recommendations, The Deserters and the Nomads seems the most interesting so I'll probably watch that one first. Marketa Lazarova also seems interesting since I enjoy stories about conflicts between pagans and christians, there are not enough of those. Also, the girl is cute.


You can't go wrong with either of those great films. Tell us what you think of them.

I posted medieval recs earlier in the thread too, in case you need some more. :P

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Can't slay the Gray! He did it again!

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>a movie about the brazilian city Z

Now that's interesting. I will take a look on this guy.


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>Now that's interesting.

yes it is!


even the name is enigmatic -- city of "Z"

i will be watching this

>I expect the ruins to be monolithic in character, more ancient than the oldest Egyptian discoveries. Judging by inscriptions found in many parts of Brazil, the inhabitants used an alphabetical writing allied to many ancient European and Asian scripts. There are rumors, too, of a strange source of light in the buildings, a phenomenon that filled with terror the Indians who claimed to have seen it.

>The central place I call “Z” — our main objective — is in a valley surmounted by lofty mountains. The valley is about ten miles wide, and the city is on an eminence in the middle of it, approached by a barreled roadway of stone. The houses are low and windowless, and there is a pyramidal temple. The inhabitants of the place are fairly numerous, they keep domestic animals, and they have well-developed mines in the surrounding hills. Not far away is a second town, but the people living in it are of an inferior order to those of “Z.” Farther to the south is another large city, half buried and completely destroyed.




rest of Gray's films are decent to good too


It's okay but not anything particularly good or great. Comfy watch though.


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That's how I felt. I thought it started quite good, then got muddled in the middle, but it pulled everything together for a strong finish.

This film looks absolutely gorgeous though. The cinematography is probably influenced by early 20th century depictions like Days of Heaven and Heaven's Gate. I like when beams of sunlight pass into a darkened room to show all the dust floating around.

They chose to make his wife some sort of feminist, as she objected to various societal conventions. She also begged to go on the jungle adventures and leave the kids behind. I don't know if these scenes were true to life, but it seemed rather Current Year and predictable. I read that the real Nina Fawcett was interested in mysticism. I think that would have been a more interesting character trait. That could have added a completely different element to the film, as Percy shared her interest. There's supposedly evidence that Percy's expeditions were partially guided by his desire to start an Amazonian spiritual commune.

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Can we have a thread dedicated to Carlos Reygadas?
Personally I've found that no other director can capture reality the way he does. His films Silent Light and Post Tenebras Lux are the hands down the two most beautiful films I've ever seen.
He also has the exact same philosophy on film and storytelling as I do. He's probably my favourite dorector of all time.
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Exactly how I feel about lots of modern movies and TV. Reygadas just got bumped the fuck up on my watchlist. Thanks!



I've known about Reygadas for a few years now and knew he'd be right up my alley but just never got to him. After reading this quote I think it's time I pick him up immediately.



I was going to tear him but he does seem to have a logical point, and i sincerely lack a ton of formal film theory reading.

Reminds me of the falling video game industry, where the top brass and known critics regard the media these days as a tool for telling stories via interactive context and lastly some specific mechanics, instead of the classic aficionados who believe the mechanics and their executions in a designed space are the objects of appreciation themselves.

Haven't seen his stuff, the confidence in the written delivery might seem a little pretentious so i guess he does deliver his ideas, but portraying visuals as the narrative, the wheels of the vehicle to call it in a way seems overly difficult in full time format (over 60 minutes).

The ancient "ideal" combination of audio, visuals and narrative MIGHT have taken place in some music videos, but those take at most 6 minutes, and "video art", stuff usually focused on visual experimentation ala Rybzynski, take 10 or 15 if they are self-indulgent.

It seems he needs to be checked out, and it really, really doesn't help he's a capital mexican from a certain sector known to be some of the biggest bullshit artists and pretenders in Latin America.



Do you have any favourite Mexican directors? Current or past.



tl;dr maybe Roberto Gavaldon, even with his musical segments out of nowhere. Luis Buñuel and Luis Alcoriza in the past and Mel Gibson in the recent time if we can count foreigners who lived a long time in the area.

Now i really don't like our cinema, like many of us, because of the extreme ratio between quick movies made purely for money in one-week budget-priced cinema tenures and interesting movies hidden between the mountains of hot trash, hence the lack of achieves and enthusiasts. I went to explain it but I got carried a little, went over the line and wrote 800+ words so i will spare you the eyesore.

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Is anyone familiar with the work of Vincent Ward? If you are, what do you think about his films. If anyone could suggest films that carry a similar aesthetic to his work I would appreciate that too.

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> every country has a different catalogue

Hm that makes sense. It's tricky to get licensing rights in different countries. I heard TCM is not very good outside of the United States because their catalog is much more limited.


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Vigil and Navigator are both excellent, both deal with spirituality, both contain many striking visual moments.

Vigil has a timelessness similar to films from Europe that take place in rural, isolated, or preindustrialized villages. The clothing in the film does not seem modern at all, making me wonder if kiwis actually dressed like that in the 20th century. Vigil places more emphasis on visual storytelling (or moodsetting) because the dialogue often seems incidental.

Navigator has plenty of dialogue and a clearly defined plot. Of course it's still unconventional compared to typical cinema offering. And Navigator probably has stronger imagery than Vigil, with many beautiful scenes like the one in this clip.

So certain aspects of Vincent Ward's early work reminds me of Bergman, Tarkovsky, Valley of the Bees, Witchhammer, maybe Hard to be a God as films with a similar aesthetic and content. That's the first things that came to mind, I'm sure there are other comparisons to be made...



nice webm for a great scene


I just saw the Navigator, I really liked the use of color in the film, honestly didn't think it'd look that good, and it was pretty fun seeing them discover the 20th century


I just view The Navigator and thoroughly enjoyed it. It is weak in many ares but still definitely more than worth a sit-through. I loved the acting, costumes, lighting, and cinematography. A friend let me borrow the DVD and now I'm torrenting Vigil.


I agree! The transitions from B&W to color were really well done. It didn't feel cliche or forced.

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and which did you like best?

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Dead Slow Ahead



Sauce on these plz



C:1, R:6

C:2, R:5


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ITT: Christmas films you're planning to watch / you like to watch every year / you think others should know about

I plan to watch the first animated TV special, Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol (1962). The UPA style is a lot of fun. Although it's had many home releases (including Blu-Ray), over the years it's been greatly overshadowed by the Grinch and Charlie Brown.

I may watch Blast of Silence or The Apartment too. Both take place during Christmas and they're both great for different reasons.

If I could find it I'd like to see the colorized version of It's a Wonderful Life, just for (morbid?) curiosity's sake.

A couple other interesting picks: Wake in Fright (easy to forget it takes place during Christmas) and Lady in the Lake (the POV gimmick is notable despite the film's flaws)

White Christmas … pretty much stinks.
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I might watch Bell Book and Candle. I hadn't really heard about it before this week.


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The Junky's Christmas

William Burroughs


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The Insect's Christmas by Wladyslaw Starewicz, who was a Polish Russian

This stop-motion animation dates back before the Revolution


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Just watched this...

Not my favorite.

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I'm thinking about spoiling The Last Jedi for game journalists ASAP on social media. You in?

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What is the spoiler? Force ghosts can be killed? Anakin is a fucking penguin?



>What is the spoiler? Force ghosts can be killed? Anakin is a fucking penguin?

Ideally, both



Or whoever you want.

Don't read unless you want to be like my parents, disappointed in me.

Star Wars Episode VIII Full Synopsis Spoilers:




Same. I just have a decade long vendetta against them. Gamergate and all that. You use this on whoever you like.


so how did this idea turn out

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What makes a film good in your opinion?
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I enjoy movies that take advantage of the emotional capacity of man. The director is supposed to also direct how you feel, which is a misunderstood concept in modern Hollywood. Take Jaws for example. This is one of the most well-crafted scenes that exists in cinema because the audience is in tune with Brody's emotions even when not focused on him. Brody is thinking about the shark, so uncertainty is carried throughout the entire scene with several false alarms that temporarily relieve the audience of constant stress and reminds them to be vigilant. The audience starts to doubt the notion that a shark will appear at all once the wife starts to reduce tension, that is until the dog goes missing. Then the music starts to play and the shark claims it's second victim with a shocking amount of ferocity. The audience, like Brody, doesn't fully process the situation until the most elegant dolly zoom I've ever seen. I could go on and on about how fantastic this scene is and how much I appreciate Spielberg for using the deaths as devices to progress the story rather than get emotionally mixed up in them or how useful emotional capacity is in conveying abstract ideas to an audience through experience rather than explaining it, but I've made my point. Literally every movie should do this regardless of whether it's for critics or casuals.


The best Wachowski film is actually Speed Racer.


No reason really. If I get something out of it I like it.


You're basically describing tension build-up and a resulting realization. Structurally it is impressive, especially for the time. I'm not a fan of Spielberg though.


A good film is a good film. A snuff film shot on 8mm film could be kino if it stirs a unique emotional response from the viewer.




I wonder if they're going to make a remaster of this movie in 4K or something like that, it would be a blast to watch.

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