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File: 1c6ecc0a48f9012⋯.jpg (56.66 KB, 720x523, 720:523, frankly dear.jpg)

 No.7819[Reply]

"The absence of limitations is the enemy of art."

With the continued slide of what's acceptable on screen I feel that we've lost an important caveat to film making. The more brash and uncensored film making becomes, the more that I see it losing some of its basic creativity. Where as directors and writers had to pick and choose where they could put a bit of scandilous content, now they take it for granted. Violence, and dramatic moments in some newer films lack the bombastic impact that they did in the golden era.

This isn't an all new films are bad thread, cause that'd be a lie. What I'm saying is that the restrictions placed so that films couldn't constantly show what they wanted, forced film makers to get creative in ways that they wouldn't now. And it also gives moments that would have zero impact in one of today's films, a stronger hit, a real sense of feeling.

What those who haven't watched the earlier era of cinema tend to forget is how much weight little things can carry. How drastic the swing can be from moments that would never even touch the audiences heart in a film full of extravagant moments. In a way, we get further from an artistic purity as we get closer to seeing everything on screen.

How do you feel about this /film/?

 No.7824

Do you know this isn't exactly a new idea in any art?


 No.7826

File: 592f7fba20d3245⋯.jpg (59.65 KB, 450x254, 225:127, the_five_obstructions.jpg)

It's a well-known idea but still interesting. The Five Obstructions demonstrates this concept in action: https://uloz.to/!wf99VyiL/the-five-obstructions-jorgen-leth-lars-von-trier-2003-avi

As for other examples, I don't like neo-noir or proto-noir as much as regular 40s noir. The atmosphere just feels wrong without the Hays Code pushing out a lot of lasciviousness. I think the main characters were sleazier in the novels than in the films. Maybe that works better the page. In the films it can be too distracting.


 No.8095

This guy kinda does sound like a hipster though. It's not fair to compare todays work with stuff that was made decades ago. The technology of filmmaking is much more advanced, and it's run by corporations. Corporations don't give a fuck about art, all they care about is making $. Everything else is secondary.

Personally, art shouldn't have limitations and should always push boundaries. Who's fault is it that the majority of producers are creating lame shit with excessive sex and violence? People are buying it, so who's really to blame?




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 No.7596[Reply]

Does /film/ use film related social media sites like MUBI, Trakt, Letterboxd or IMDB?

I've found MUBI the best way to find new interesting films with following people with different tastes.

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 No.7600

File: 1469220850317.gif (988.4 KB, 500x360, 25:18, poet3.gif)

>>7599

>Final nail in the coffin for me were the custom pronouns.

Oh boy, it never ends. Who knew you needed custom pronouns to write amateur film reviews


 No.8050

File: a7d7d2d43e5c78d⋯.jpg (593.68 KB, 1159x771, 1159:771, ebolusyon002.jpg)

Mubi has retrospective for Lav Diaz this weekend: https://mubi.com/specials/lavdiaz

One film per month through the end of the year

> MUBI is proud to present the first-ever online retrospective of renowned Filipino auteur Lav Diaz, winner of Locarno’s Golden Leopard, and the Venice Orizzonti and Berlinale’s Alfred Bauer awards. His sprawling sagas of the Philippines’ tumultuous recent history and beleaguered but strong-willed and passionate peoples are epic in scope but bracingly intimate and direct in style. Challenging notions of storytelling and how cinema gives images and sound to stories unseen and voices unheard, no one makes movies like him. To give audiences the proper time to spend immersed in Lav’s cinema, MUBI will debut one film each month during the retrospective.


 No.8066

cinemos when


 No.8067

>>8066

what are they going to do? i haven't followed it


 No.8068

I really like RYM so it'll be cool to see what they come up with

The new name stinks tho




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 No.8042[Reply]

Recommend some films that are aware of their own artifice, I'll start with an obvious one

 No.8043

File: 8e47c0123993a3b⋯.jpg (184.04 KB, 1374x900, 229:150, Man-with-a-Movie-Camera.jpg)

meta films?


 No.8054

File: aafe8124a7f30e0⋯.jpg (30.43 KB, 400x566, 200:283, large_tsIrAQ7YkrHvTdMJIMaI….jpg)

F for Fake is all about artifice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIVgUjj6RxU


 No.8061

>>8054

I was going to post the same.

another big one is Funny Games by Haneke




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 No.6266[Reply]

BEST OF THE YEAR (2015)

What are the best new films you watched this year?

Or if you don't have access to a world class arthouse theatre, discuss the best old films you discovered in the current year.

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 No.7250

File: 1462805085956.jpg (266.06 KB, 900x1270, 90:127, 0Aodkc.jpg)

/film/, comment?

This is directed by Aleksey German, Jr


 No.7252

File: 1462822624678.jpg (40.92 KB, 1180x664, 295:166, descarga.jpg)

>>7250

looks nice, have you watched it yet?


 No.7254

File: 1462861241282.mp4 (4.31 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Under_Electric_Clouds_-_Ex….mp4)

>>7252

I have not

I didn't even know Aleksey German's son was a director


 No.7914

>>6273

I loved XXL too, one of my all time favorites by now. I've wanted to rewatch Phoenix for a long time now, I feel the main actress was fantastic with her eyes.

Fairly generic choice I guess, but Knight of Cups was my favorite from '15.


 No.8040

File: ad0aa90a35d350d⋯.png (302.48 KB, 960x540, 16:9, 1450976278761.png)

>>7914

>I loved XXL too, one of my all time favorites by now. I've wanted to rewatch Phoenix for a long time now, I feel the main actress was fantastic with her eyes.




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 No.2619[Reply]

So has anyone seen this yet? How is it?

I heard it's basically a character profile, which reminds me a little of Dirty Wars. In fact Dirty Wars was mostly style with not much (new) substance.

 No.2621

Decent thread on >>>/leaks/110 about how he's probably part of a limited hangout operation.

His wikipedia talk page is also full of people pointing out inconsistencies in the Snowden story.

For this reason I'm not going to watch this movie or the upcoming one directed by Oliver Stone. I'd like to hear what others think of it though.

 No.2622

Well, the limited hangout theories started as soon as he leaked. It may be true, who knows. All inconsistencies are definitely worth a look though.

For maximum impact, I think he should have leaked during the election season. He did it right afterwards. Not much has changed, although I am glad this issue is more visible.

Boiling Frogs Post has probably been most critical of Snowden and Greewald, but that site also has me wondering "who is the real controlled opposition." They have interesting content but also like to push fringe ideas, often from Corbett.

Don't know if I'll watch this or not. My main concern is the lack of real content. I don't much care to learn about Edward the human bean.

 No.2638

haven't seen it yet

 No.2672

> I heard it's basically a character profile

This review from a foreign policy website has essentially the same critique

http://fpif.org/citizenfours-personality-problem/

> Key questions go unanswered: How much information from Americans’ communications, Internet history, and location is collected by the NSA? How often was it accessed without a warrant? Did the NSA provide any data on foreign companies to those based in the United States? The NSA’s collection of this information alone is certainly cause for concern, even outrage, but greater clarity about these gray areas would have been helpful.


> A film might not be well-suited to capturing this nuance. About two-thirds of the way through the movie, Poitras displays some of the documents Snowden shared with the press. But without context or explanation, it’s hard to deduce much from them.


> Nonetheless, more might have been accomplished if the director were willing to focus more on investigation and less on personalities. For whatever reason, I don’t think Poitras was willing to do so. For example, she includes footage of Binney saying that after 9/11, the NSA started spying on everybody, and Appelbaum saying that the NSA actively attacks anyone it can if the agency perceives an advantage. But she neither challenges nor substantiates these claims, which seem likely to be exaggerations.


> The likeliest explanation for this shortcoming, to my mind, is that Poitras hoped to preserve a neater narrative — with clear heroes and villains — because that’s what audiences respond to most strongly.

 No.7877

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.




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 No.7604[Reply]

What torrent sites do you recommend for films?

With Kick Ass Torrents dead I'm at a loss for more commercial, art house or classic stuff.

Also, http://horrorcharnel.org/signup.php is now open for sign ups. Great place for horror, though the place is in need of a revamp.

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 No.7834

Look for invitation / account Karagarga, Cinematik, PassThePopcorn or The Horror Chanel.

Someone?


 No.7851

>>7834

THC should be possible next time they have open signups

Or go to their IRC and see if anyone is feeling generous


 No.7853

>>7851

TehConnection? I'm not >>7834 but do they have specific invite channel?


 No.7854

File: 06705763a08aaa4⋯.png (22.93 KB, 503x211, 503:211, JsQynP7.png)

http://torrentinvites.org/f36/avistaz-general-2016-review-146709/

avistaz.to/auth/register

> AvistaZ.to is a private BitTorrent tracker specializing in movies, music and TV Dramas from Asian countries such as Korea, Hong Kong, China, Japan, India and Thailand. Majority of the content uploaded to this tracker comprise of movies – Lots of action movies, martial arts and kung–fu flicks are freely downloadable from AvistaZ.to. If you are not from an Asian country and wondering about language barriers, have no fear. Most movies on AvistaZ.to come with English subtitles.


 No.7864

>>7853

THC = the horror channel

tehconnection shouldn't be too hard to get an invite. they are smaller and probably want users.




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 No.5528[Reply]

ITT: Academic /film/ related stories

I assume i wasn't the only person who was lucky enough to study Film/Motion Pictures in the pre SJW times. Did you ever experience anything interesting or have stories to tell?

e.g:

>When it came to auteur theory aside from the mandatory goth chick writing about Tim Burton i was the only person in the class that didn't write about Quentin Tarantino.

>When being shown jurassic Park during a period on the history of SFX a student who was a self professed fundamentalist Christian left in outrage at this "moral degeneracy", 4 months later he would be removed from the course for attempting to rape a Lesbian girl on campus to "fix here"

>One of the final exam live study films was The Happiness of the Katakuris and one student handed in a single piece of paper with "I DONT GET IT I JUST LOVE FUCKING STAR WARS" on it. Surprisingly he was not Rich Evans.

>More than half the class fell asleep during Citzen Kane.

>The surprise hit was Perfect Blue by Satoshi Kon.

>When moving onto practical work and placement in the industry health and safety forms had to be signed swearing there was no chance of meteor strike, volcanic eruption of nearby nuclear conflict.

>Started 130 in year one, down to 5 in year 4, was one of 2 that graduated.

What was your film school time like?

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 No.7681

Not really film school I took a film and literature class.

>Literally the easiest class I've taken since pre school.

>I was hoping it would be a class where we'd watch different kinds of movies and analyze them.

>Basically, we'd learn about a certain genre and all the tropes in it, then watch three movies per genre

>The tests were basically questions to make sure we payed attention to the movie, and nothing analytical

>teacher ends up being pregnant and we get a substitute

>We go overboard on the documentary section since the sub didn't know what to show, we even watched a history channel documentary about the spartans

>Start Shakespeare, read much ado about nothing and watch both movie versions

>my friends and I always read with British accents or something to make it more interesting, while the rest of the idiots in that class read it all monotonous and can't even pronounce half the words

>Our original teacher comes back two weeks before school is out and the final is analyzing a foreign film of our choosing

>I choose Fires on the Plain

>Teacher loves it, get an A.

That class really made me lose my hope in humanity. We watched some really good movies, but most of the class didn't like them because they "were boring". They were also extremely dumb. I was never the top of any class, but I was probably one of the three smartest students in that class. I just hope none of them ever choose to vote.


 No.7682

>>7660

>the professor said I would basically have to turn it into a morality "racism ==== wrong" story

What happened to avoiding cliche?


 No.7685

>>7682

Apparently preaching the evils of racism outweighs good writing.

Still might make it someday.


 No.7747

>>7660

>>7682

>>7685

You should still write it. With the way things are going, that could be optioned within a decade.


 No.7817

>More than half the class fell asleep during citzen kane.

Lord it hurt it hurts.




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 No.7686[Reply]

Hey /film/, Anyone in the same spot here?

>be 23 year old me

>Bussiness Developpment Manager at family owned consulting firm

>Good pay, get to boss around customers and be a lazy cunt

>boost the company's revenue

>father is ecstatic, wants to give me the commands in 10 years

>don't want to be shitty industrial managment consultant

>father gets GOAT idea and offers to pay more studies

>always pais studies on my own

>insists and wants me to chose, hoping for industrial managment shit

>gonna go for Ecole de la Cite Cinema et Television instead

Opinions /film/,do i let a bright future slip away and spend my last days in a ragged apartment just to do what i want or follow father's will and forget my selfish dream?

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 No.7698

>>7692

Thanks beautiful anon, guess that seeing it more as business and less as art is the way to go.

I learned that networking is the key to all business and might that road to achieve my goals

Thanks again friend-o


 No.7699

>>7698

I mean, don't just make a decision from what I said. make sure you carefully consider both options and try to see how each would pan out over the years compared with what your desires in life are. I'm just giving you some food for thought, it's what I would do. give yourself a lot of time to mull it over


 No.7712

>>7689

I like what one person said in that /tv/ thread

> Few things annoy me more than movies where there is a father depicted as an asshole because he's providing his son with a way while the son wants to be a flaky artist dreamer.

This trope might make a good story but I agree it's unrealistic - poor life advice. I'd rather see people with different occupational backgrounds making films. If everyone is a starving bohemian artist you'll see the same sort of ideas over and over.


 No.7748

Do not pursue film unless your dads spielberg. Go buy a camera, teach yourself to write and network with other people in your city. If you can make enough noise with a low budget approach, you'll get noticed a la Shane Carruth.

Unless this is something you just have to get out of your system and if that's the case, maybe your dad will hire you back in five years when you're broke and haven't done anything.


 No.7810

Just kill yourself and save me the trouble of making your life choices for you.




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 No.1156[Reply]

Did anyone ever catch this?

I saw it in the cinema during a festival, but I had trouble staying awake. Either that's the film's subject matter being very effective on me, or, the film was really boring.
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 No.1159

File: 1411608793644.jpg (30.47 KB, 375x500, 3:4, bueno.jpg)

It's nothing he hasn't done before but I didn't mind that and liked it nevertheless.

I would suggest you give it another try or check out Tropical Malady or Syndromes and a Century, although both are similarly slow.

 No.1167

I thought it was pretty unremarkable honestly, although I would be willing to give it another try as well as trying some of his other work.

 No.1475

This film is not meant for europeans.

 No.7806

>>1475

Neither is it meant for locals


 No.7807

File: 1471959788593.jpg (152.73 KB, 1280x688, 80:43, image17.jpg)

23 month bump!!

It's still the only thing I've seen from this guy. I'd give it a thumbs-up with reservations similar to what people mentioned here

>>7806

You're not a fan? What Thai films do you like?




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 No.1511[Reply]

Can we discuss Apichatpong Weerasethakul's body of work?

 No.1524

Sadly, I have only seen Tropical Malady so far. I thought its second half was absolute film wizardry, powerful moving bliss trascending language and experience as I have rarely witnessed in the cinema medium. My eyes were burning in a mindfuck of significant proportion. Shit was kvlt.

 No.1525

On-topic: I have no definite feelings for Weerasethakul's body of work. He seems like an interesting person to hang out with tough.

 No.1534

>>1524
He's very good at making his films seem transcendental. The weird, hypnotic mood of Uncle Boonmee was unlike anything I'd ever experienced. He seems fastinated by the idea of reincarnation, and UBWCRPL is probably the best film to encapsulate that. I'd definitely check it out if I were you.

 No.7805

Interesting




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 No.7728[Reply]

What do you guys think of the whole "cinema only lasted a century" opinion that seems to be common among many great directors?

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 No.7735

>>7728

dying people want to believe they were important when they weren't and are eventually forgotten

like those people crying of the youth or expecting ww3 any moment now


 No.7736

i'd say that a load of shit. perhaps hollywood died in the late 70s, but that's just about the time that independent film took off. i mean, maybe cinema "proper" as in a 2 hour film is winding down, but look at all the creativity pouring out on youtube or similar


 No.7750

>>7733

>who else

Godard, Greenaway, Rossellini, Kaurismaki


 No.7789

>>7728

"only"? A whole century is not that bad for an "invention without any future" as Louis Lumiere in 1896.

Anyway I don't think the cinema died. There's always been good and bad movies, it's as simple as that. Even nowadays there's still good movies.

As long as you have something to say...


 No.7790

>>7728

That's overblown to me, especially the 'technological is bad' kind of angle as >>7730 said.

More tech has the bad side of increasing needed resources for films, but more tech also has the good side of making it easy to get started or try newer things.




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 No.7541[Reply]

Is this still a thing? Do people still make these type of films?

Also post your favorites

 No.7544

File: 1467925486145.jpg (80.54 KB, 706x450, 353:225, festen 1.jpg)

I thought it fizzled out. The Celebration is quite nice but I never explored the movement very much. Come to think of it I haven't seen anything from Denmark in a long time.

I think it's more enjoyable to watch cheaply produced movies that aren't so self-conscious about their methods.


 No.7751

open hearts (great susan bier flick, she has some other great stuff too), the celebration, breaking the waves (spiritually but not technically dogma), celebration, mifune's last dream. the movement died out in the early 00's as the price of digital filmmaking equipment started to make filmmaking more accessible (one of the goals of dogma 95)


 No.7759

>>7751

Is there a style now that is similar to dogme?




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 No.7552[Reply]

If it's okay for me to just beg here, what are some films involving alien space? I might be okay with their being a bit lowbrow - perhaps I can't expect every recommendation to be Stalker or Solaris, but then I'm not exactly looking for something of a human philosophical space, anyway: The thing is that I wish to see a world fundamentally unlike our own (or fundamentally unlike what we would see to have made our own, anyway) rendered as vividly - as coherently - as possible. Think cosmic horror, perhaps.

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 No.7554

File: 1468204505477-0.jpg (15.11 KB, 250x419, 250:419, GNOFS.jpg)

File: 1468204505478-1.jpg (36.58 KB, 225x318, 75:106, Garzey's Wing.jpg)

It's hard to get a more lowbrow view of alien space than Gayniggers from Outer Space, a classic cross-cultural documentary on human relations. Similar in quality is the masterfully-directed Garzey's Wing, notable for its high-quality English dub and deep storyline told through distinctly Japanese cinematography instead of expository dialogue.


 No.7555

File: 1468210719661.gif (819.83 KB, 500x208, 125:52, forbiddenplanet.gif)

>>7553

>Technicolor

my mistake, the poster says Eastman Color

point is it's vivid and colorful


 No.7725

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


 No.7727

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 No.7741

>>7727

> Kin-Dza-Dza

Many creators who try to pressure the viewer into emotions with blatant drama and special effects should weep when they see it.

Also, while being /film/ material on the West, it is one of the most watched movies of general public in ex-USSR area.




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 No.7588[Reply]

Do any of you make films?

What do you watch for inspiration?

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 No.7593

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

i often carry a camcorder around and record things that i see that i think are worth recording. i edit together a video with this footage every now and again. in this case, inspiration is just observing the world


 No.7595

I remember some old topics

>>5654 a series of shorts

>>5495 a bunch of people here made music videos

>>4777 general film making talk


 No.7598

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>>7591

Gladly.

>>7593

That's a good idea, I should maybe do that with my phone

>>7595

Thanks anon, really helps


 No.7603

>>7593

Please aim for more. This is bogstandard millennial curating rather than creating.

I know you can do more.


 No.7653

>>7603

i can and do, but it's music. i just like to observe my own life from a removed perspective, i don't really share what i make with people most of the time

i don't really expect to make anything worthwhile for a while, i don't really have my shit together enough to even write a script. my life is about as interesting as that video so i don't much to draw on. i made that one to explain my job to my (two) friends




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 No.7489[Reply]

>it's a board for plebs that can't talk about movies on /tv/

 No.7490

As an outsider, I most say I'm probably more impressed of this board than any other on 8chan.

So keep up the good work, I guess


 No.7491

File: 1466487221191.png (543.91 KB, 720x540, 4:3, snsf.png)

>it's a thread for people who just clicked the topbar


 No.7493

we do miss out on a lot of quality 4chan memespeak, but everyone has their cross to bear




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