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Tarkovksy inconnu 08/14/15 (Fri) 06:59:11 No.5421

What would his style had been like if he grew up in America?

Do you think he would've found any success?

inconnu 08/14/15 (Fri) 15:03:44 No.5422

Would he still have heavy rusian influences in his life. Such as his family friends etc.

inconnu 08/14/15 (Fri) 15:17:29 No.5423

Yeah, nature vs. nurture comes into play. Does this question involve simply placing his soul and DNA into some US family?

If he worked in Hollywood in the 60s, maybe he could make a better version of The Killers than Don Siegel's.

inconnu 08/15/15 (Sat) 20:23:46 No.5430

>>5422

Let's say yes. Let's imagine that he had the same upbringing but moved to America to make the American version of Ivan's Childhood.

>>5423

Have you seen his shorts? I think the first one he ever made was called The Killers. Was Don Siegel's flick based off of Tarkovskys?

inconnu 08/16/15 (Sun) 01:45:56 No.5433

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>>5430

He would've been fuck out of money to make a film and would've moved back to Russia to make it.

If he was exactly the same, but was only trying to make a film in America, this is the only result. He wouldn't have compromised his vision. The much more interesting question would be what he would be like if he were raised an American. Less eastern spiritual, more centralized vision on Christianity. Parajanov's profound influence on him wouldn't have happened. Who knows what he would've drawn inspiration from. He probably wouldn't have known about Dovzhenko. Chaplin would've been his main silent film influence. I'm not sure if he would've known about foreign film, particularly early in his career. It's somewhat likely he would've heard about Bergman.

His predicament shifts from putting up with the Moscow Board and the censorship to not having any funding. I see him fizzling out after his first film bombs and is unable to get more funding for future projects. Probably says fuck it and writes poetry, maybe goes to theater.

Speculation

inconnu 08/16/15 (Sun) 04:54:13 No.5434

>>5433

You praise Russia and the east too much. Westerners were very aware of the talent from other countries, especially Bergman.

I agree with your last part where he'd secure funding for one film and it'd be a wreck.

inconnu 08/16/15 (Sun) 05:55:07 No.5435

>>5430

> Was Don Siegel's flick based off of Tarkovskys?

Both come from the Hemingway short story, but the Siegel version barely resembles it. It's really just a bad TV movie (not that there's anything wrong with that).

I'd like to think American Tarkovsky could find some way to work outside the studio system to maintain creative control. Independent filmmaking became more common in the mid 60s. His output would be infrequent but he could still insist on a singular vision, even if his influences were completely different. Perhaps a cult hit or two with the midnight movie crowd.

inconnu 08/16/15 (Sun) 09:19:03 No.5438

>>5434

I honestly don't think Dovzhenko or Parajanov would've been known in America.

inconnu 08/16/15 (Sun) 17:17:29 No.5441

>>5435

Sounds about right. I wonder if the American Tarkovksy would've been interested in an animation? That would be kinda wild to see what he'd be capable of.

>>5438

Probably not Dovzhenko but Parajanov was definitely known. Didn't Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors receive a bunch of awards from the international community during it's release?

inconnu 10/20/15 (Tue) 22:21:39 No.6060

>>5434

Bergman is literally the biggest name they know. Probably because he was nominated for Oscars quite a few times.