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I am currently considering starting to study magik, but I keep telling mylesf "nahh thats bullshit". Can somebody give me some personal mystical experiences you had so I can make a decision?

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Society to me is just as it is. Trying to force it to my will or trying to confirm to it is a truly stupid waste of energy. I've played that game before and it's just a miserable experience.

That doesn't mean I don't care about my family or that I lack empathy. It means my focus is on what's actually in front of me and what's within my power to sincerely impact for the better. To slave away for anything else is ideology, it's psychic poison and it's not based on real empathy anyways. Therefore, appeals to "society" and "reality" from anyone but those specific people are going to be wasted effort.



You will have to adapt this to your own methods, but what worked for me was to go into relatively undisturbed woods and focus on either inhibition of my social or human-specific habits, or excitation of more primitive impulses. It helped to have a lot of Terence McKenna talks about the gaian mind running around in my head a bit beforehand, though not so much as to totally color it. An object symbolic of the immediate biome works best as a focus.

Humans are animals. We do some unique things but we're mammals, we are not so removed from the impulses that motivated our distant ancestors. Those impulses are still in there, and there is value in giving a voice to an older model of the planet as a mother-destroyer, birthing the world that she also consumes, ouroboros-like. Consider Kali as a model. Invocation of Gaia involves placing one in a more primal state until this pattern becomes internally manifest as felt experience rather than flat theory. You will know which ecstatic techniques have the most distinct effect upon you personally. Go with that, Gaia or whatever you want to call her will show if you can run with your instinctive responses.



>many of them are so positive as to not even be stories since they lack conflic

honestly those are my favorite stories.

I was in a dramatic writing class where the teacher was talking about stories need conflict to be interesting but I disagreed in my head at the time.

anyway, cool story. I'm not sensitive enough to hear all that stuff consciously, yet.




I bought a watch last year.



>Humans are animals. We do some unique things but we're mammals, we are not so removed from the impulses that motivated our distant ancestors.

Our aim should always be to transcend our animal being and evolve and move the fuck outta here. Our bodys, our biology and our animal side is just a burden, a prison. It's shit. Likewise Gaia is shit. She is part of the demiurge, a sadistic whore who keeps us trapped here as animals and in the end kills us. "Mother nature" is shit. What's natural is shit, because what's natural is mostly demiurgic prison. Earth is the lowest element there is, and physical earth is basically the botton of the shitbarrel. In my humble oppinion we should not strive to earth but strive upwards to the higher dimensions where the vibrations are higher. Gaia is only another hindrance. Nature and earth are overrated beyond belief. Just like sex and procreation. It's actually shit to bring children into this world, all you do is summon souls into the demiurge matrix. You bring children, those poor souls into the lowest and shittiest realm possible. Likewise all nature spirits are mere tools, those fairys and dryads and whatever are not as amazing as everyone makes them out to be. If earth was completely nuked and Gaia was massacred, nothing of value would be lost, in fact only the prison with it's foul goddess would be broken and we all would be free. No more souls would be summoned here to get tortured.

I am not really thankful to be here. It takes more than fresh air or beautiful forests to manipulate me into thinking nature and gaia are so amazing. I definetly feel that my home is somewhere else and that I am a mere vsitior here, or more like prisoner. When I see the cruelty of nature and how harsh earth is, how brutal animals and humans likewise behave it only makes me sick. I doubt there is a place more degenerate than this in the universe. Everything good and worthwile here was created by man, man had literally to pick up the shit lying around and use his godgiven ability to will and to create and make good stuff from the shit. Man made protections against Gaia, against the beasts and the weather, man started to kill Gaia and cosnume it in order to survive. Maybe man is not an animalPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



Send my regards to the gnostics in that case, when you warp out of here. I find it palatial, you consider it a prison, fair enough. I won't keep you buckled into this life, and I have no reason to bother you unless you give me one, which would be a waste of time for us both.

If your methods lead you to unity with Aeon Sophia or whatever your goal may be, more power to you. My route to liberation was phrased differently but by hook or by crook, you'll get there in the end. Thanks for your input, I'll keep it in mind.

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I searched the catalogue and found no threads for Tantra. ITT we discuss tantric texts, rituals, deities, experiences, etc.

I recently picked up my first book on tantra, the Mahanirvana Tantra, translated by Sir John Woodroffe. Probablt the most sensational part is when it describes the vamacara (left hand path) panca-tattva (five elements) ritual in which five forbidden things; meat, fish, parched grains, alcohol and sex are used ritualistically. Each corresponds to an element and have symbolic meaning. The text does warn against the consumption of alcohol for non-ritual purposes, as well as over-consumption. The text also says it should be done between a man and his wife. This doesn't seem to stop some Aghori however. The rituals are still done by the Kaula sect. The goal of the panca-tattva is the attainment of Brahmajnan or gnosis. Thoughts?

You can read the Mahanirvana Tantra here:


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Do not be worried pige, from regular meditations your tongue will not pop out and your eyes will not be open. Do energy work, do meditation on empty mind, do visualization and imagination exercises. Keep it real and stay with the good old useful meditations, be a good piggy. I personally do not recommend this tantra bullshit where your tongue pops out while you get posessed by some faggot indian rape spirit.



Ah, ok thanks, that is a relief to hear, except the pige part.

I told you i'm NOT A PIGGY!



That's no possession though. More like donning a mask. Basic tantra is essentially about that - visualizing yourself as a certain "deity"/"buddha" thus gradually gaining its knowledge and power.



>I told you i'm NOT A PIGGY!

I am sorry you feel this way. I think it's better I go now. Farewell pige.

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Continuation of this thread: http://archive.is/XqeXn

1) Pledge an amount of time. Preferably a number of weeks. Post it in this thread.

2) If you break your pledge, you must also confess your transgression in this thread.

3) If you keep your pledge you may reward yourself… with more time pledged!

4) For purposes of this thread, "masturbation" is defined as touching your genitals for purposes other than basic hygiene and expulsion of wastes.

For those of you who have entirely transcended physical sex but who use succubus and so on you can also make pledges here to control your sexual thoughts and try not to evoke or meet any entities to have sex with.

Remade the thread since the last one was very popular and hit the bump limit and many of you want use your generative powers for a higher purpose than mere wasted moments of hedonism.

Post any techniques for the transformation and proper use of sexual energy here also.

Personally I feel that stage one should be to completely stop with touching or physical stimulation of sexual energy and learning to take that desire and drive and focus it mentally into thoughtforms. If you are going to entertain lustful ideas at least don't be a silly mundane about it when you could be using thoughtforce to telekinetically get yourself off or something similar. Straight up fapping is for mundanes.

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Would that make them… celib-mates?



Theres these weird asexual women who have zero sex drive, sounds like a perfect match for Anon. They could live together so they don't look weird for being forever alone, split expenses, and maybe even enjoy the tax benefits of marriage. They could become close friends, do greenpilled stuff together, while never even holding hands once.



I guess. I converted my girlfriend from being functionally asexual to being perfectly sexual, so long as it involves the two of us, so I assume one might be able to perform the same operation in reverse. Sounds like a solid business partnership, like when gay guys would marry lesbians for the benefits. Smart thinking.


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Your girlfriend is fucking someone else and you know it.

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Many people argue that binaural beats work for biokinesis,but TBQH I think images are more effective.

programs such as


allow you to flash images while you browse.

LOA and some scientist agree on this;the eye,i think,is more proper than the ear to influence the brain.

what do YOU think?

whats the best biokinetical method?

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I hope that you like this.

I have some good resources. The 4c threads this was on were suddenly archived or just deleted.

This video here, https://youtube.com/watch?v=CpH_rXGHX1w , is a remote "soft kill shield" for targeted individuals of all kinds. It will work to destroy many harassments. This other, https://youtube.com/watch?v=OZCgOoGSLdQ , is the second version of the targeted individual scatter frequency. I hope that they help."

"Dive deep within yourself, speak to your Higher Self (read Why I am no longer a Lightworker 1 and 2, by Cameron Day), enter your Akashik records, and you shall Know. We are One with the All (Infinite Source) as the All (Infinite Source) is One with Us. If you need more guiding, read from Bibliotecapleyades and Montalk. Finally, listen to the following videos https://youtube.com/watch?v=RQIO9cqwgcE [Embed] , https://youtube.com/watch?v=pSyUT2p4H24 [Embed] , https://youtube.com/watch?v=feilxGTQkow [Embed] , , https://youtube.com/watch?v=XvyPscRD1ss [Embed] , (commas are flying so they do not become part of the link).

Each has instructions, and the last one is particularly important; only watch it 1 time per day for 5 days, then rest for 2, Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


How would you guys go about changing ones eye color.

I figured this woul be the easiest way to confirm this is real.

I've been using the subliminal messages program on the OP for a couple of days.

What are the best settings, by the way?

I've got it in 10ms every second.

Also, when using binaural beats, is there a special way to go about it, or do I just find a video and listen to it?



Why should I take your word for it?



Quadible Integrity makes eye changing subliminal binaurals.


Because of a lot of experience in the topic?


I want to learn biokinesis.

I have on question. If you can do biokinesis then what would be stopping you from ageing? You could not keep ageing at bay ultimately could you? Surely it would eventually catch up with you?

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I have been wondering for a while, I thought I could find more information here. Forgive me if this isn't allowed here.

I noticed something really strange and noteworthy when I tried making a tulpa. And no this isn't a /x/ copypasta where it turned malicious. After a month when my tulpa was a hazy form in progress, I decided to draw her a second time after I first planned her out. A few months passed, and I lost free time, I had to take a break from working on the tulpa and she just kinda disappeared. I'm sure I would be able to start again anyways since she wasnt fully sentient or complete.

Eventually, I was writing some dreams down from when I was a kid, and all the sudden remembered that I had a dream about a woman that looked identical to the girl I forced myself into seeing.

In dream my mom got hit in the head with something (brick?) and my Dad ran away from home in anger and my mom started to cry and transform into this weird figure with just two black eyes, no mouth or nose. She looked almost identical to the tulpa. This was around 10 or 12 years beforehand.

So that lead me to wonder if these figures really live in your subconscious and aren't subject into our world until we allow it. Or is there more to tulpas? Are they archtype figures of a sort? I actually am starting to think they're familiar spirits as a possibility.

Is there any reading I where I can look into this sort of subject or concept? And is there any similar reports?

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I would like to clarify here that the entities are real in the sense that they exist in your mind and can influence your psyche, but not physically real, and can only influence the world through the permissions that you give them.



Huh, funny I see your post after just seeing an angel physcially turn on the lights in the room I was in. I’m glad you have a choice yourself, but given my experiences I cannot become a skeptic while remaining a rationalist. Many will dismiss me as trolling but I would like you to consider what you would believe if put in my position.



What you suggest possible is telepathy by means of an astral servant of some sort then yes? I have not progressed deeply down the path of astral projection, and mostly studied meditation and esoteric alchemy as part of my understanding of cognition and theology As well as some Ericksonian hypnotic techniques. If I were to perceive such an occurrence I would need to replicate it and perform it in another's presence to to verify whether it is real or delusional.



I did not think a mental construct could physically turn on a light switch.



Well I can't say I remember too Much about why the dream Happened, since I was young. But it might of been during a time where I didn't have many friends. And there seems to be a "mood" between occurences, emotional mood, if that makes sense.

As for why, I mainly wanted to create someone as a partner, I get lonely and wanted someone to talk to or spend time with. I also wanted to test my abilities of meditation and focusing. Also, maybe even get to know myself a little better. I know she's real in my plane of thought, and it's nothing bad, I believe it's just that I'm learning more about myself.

That's all I can really say for now, things seem a little fuzzy still.

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You know them.

>gmo safety

>msg caution

>fluoride caution

>vaccine safety


>healing autism, adhd, diabetes, heart disease, schizophrenia, anxiety, and other mental, and gastrointestinal and autoimmune illnesses

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Honestly, you'll have to seriously debate heavily and actually convince people with scientific proof about GMOs, fluoride, vaccines, homeopathy, and "healing" autism, ADHD, and other mental illnesses.

And mind you all of these topics are handled by professions with years in training who have read and probably produced scientific journals on such.

That being said, I say people of /fringe/ should stick to non-scientific topics rather than these topics, lest they be doubted for BOTH beliefs, since you may be able to prove these scientific subjects correct, but it would be hard to prove the existence of Karma, God, and other spiritual topics (even if they're all together from different regions with different cultures and religious beliefs).



GMOs are banned in Europe tho. It's the americans who think that shit is ok.


Well yeah, they are fringe for a (((reason.)))




It should really be common knowledge at this point that the elites are black magic practicing devil worshipers/pedophiles but unfortunately we live in a world where people have such a poorly integrated concept of the shadow that the cartoonish levels of evil going on right in front of their faces are so outside their framework of understanding that they quite literally can't see it. I'm convinced at this point that an HD video of Obama, the Clintons, the Rothschilds, Soros and all of their ilk raping and drinking the blood of babies would fail to wake a good portion of them up.

Sometime over the next couple of months I plan to go through the qu'ran with a highlighter and mark all of the times it calls for the subjugation of women and murder of non-believers and scan the pages into a pdf. I'm curious to see how the leftists on various social media sites will try to explain it away.


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ofuck yea the new new age translation right? \ while ur at it, download the bible kidz bop translation off your customized interwebs and send me some "quotes" and … evidence ha if you wanna use that word.

> twentee a.teen

> "lefists"

this is tragic… instead of encouraging you to jump out a ffuckin w indow i figure some heart will do me good..

love you … i guess :/ pic completely unrelated . not sure what'll pop up

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Reality Creation 101

I'm writing this thread because I see a lot of confusion and even worse, disempowerment floating about here. Thus, It might be time for a refresher on reality creation. Now, there are an infinite amount of models on how the universe works. We're going to leave that out of this because I have mine, and I'm assuming you have yours. What this inevitably boils down to is one question; How good are you at getting what you want? Magick can be thought of as "The applied science of manifesting your will into reality." So let's get real here. How good are you at it?

If you can shoot fireballs out of your dongus, but can't find a loving girlfriend… Then you have failed as a mage.

If you can levitate your balls off the floor with the power of your mind, but need to wipe your ass with a crusty rag because you can't afford toilet paper…Then you have failed as a mage.

If I were to ask you "Do you have limits?" and you were to answer with anything other than an immediate and empathetic "Hell NO" then…eeyup. You have failed as a mage.

We live in a universe where you really -do- get to have everything. You can think of the universe a …cosmic chef. When it asks you "How would you like your desert" you're more than able (and entitled to) say "On the sweet side please!" the trouble is that most mundanes (and even some of the neophytes here) say "Just deep fry some pig shit for me thanks." and then endure eating it with all of the stoicism of a cow standing in the rain. Is this you? Well no more. I know you. I know you are better than that. So we're going to set out to changing your order.

Heres a sample of what we're going to learn in this thread.

A. Why the law of attraction sucks donkey balls.

B. How to use emotional resonace to create the reality you want, along with two simple tools and a discussion of how to select the right one for the job.

C. A brief discussion of the energy source we're working with and how to goPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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For direct influence it should go about the same creative process. Visualize yourself cuddling/touching her or whatever as if you were really doing it. Try to incorporate all five senses with especial focus on the physical sensations. The more vivid the image you manage to churn out is the more likely it is to strike her mind. You should see changes in behavior if you do this diligently. It bears mentioning those changes are not only limited to increased affection. For example, if she's generally uncomfortable/shy with sexuality, she may try to keep some distance at first. This shall pass if you work on gaining her trust and/or you visualize her being more open to more "lewd" affairs. If you can imagine it, it is possible.



So with this you can attract a specific girl or at least make it easier to "reconnect" with her again (using the sniper method)? Wouldn't that manipulate the destiny of the other person (in this case, a specific woman)?



All right, thanks lad.

I'm feeling very confident about this.



Checked, also, if it works to attract her, in what way is that more manipulative than all the other mundane techniques used to attract a mate? Hell, even going to the gym could be thought of as manipulating your romantic outcomes, and nobody thinks of that as wrong. It's not like you're forcing her to like you against her will, just setting up events in your favor.

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You can get the magic from the occult tradition that gave birth to the vampire myth right here, in this thread. All you need to do is contact me telepathically, or express clear intent in your mind, and the automated function I set up for this purpose will cast the spell on you. It includes a few different adapted versions of the the original magic as well as a back up spell for enlightenment along the path I walked myself before making this discovery.

Historical background

A number of years ago I was contacted by a spiritual being, or so I thought. I interpreted him has the being behind the vampire myth. At the time I thought there was only this one being, and that there were no physical vampires. I got a demonstration of his strength when he helped me defeat four strong demonic beings. After this I didn't see him again.

Jumping ahead a bit I started realizing my first understanding was wrong. I noticed I was being stalked by someone and through a series of events found the real existing community of physical vampires. They are all very old and experts in their own field of occultism. By "very", I'm not talking along the lines of what is described in pop culture. After connecting with their minds through telepathy and being allowed to look into their pasts, I found them to be 1000s of years old. By their tradition anyone younger than 1000 years is considered a "hangaround" and not yet a full member. This is the result of a number of failed versions of the original magic being passed around, all resulting in the person dying at around 1000 years of age. To distinguise between the real deal and the fakes, they made this rule.

The creator of the tradition is the spiritual being I first met. He left the physical plane around 180000 years ago and lives in a library he created in the 9th physical dimension. He passed the magic onto one follower who also left the physical plane but who didn't get beyond the 3rd dimension. The current matriarch of the community is around 130000 years old and can move freely between dimensions but hasn't yet found a permanent residence in a plane beyond the human world. The same goes for all newer recruits.

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It looks like the outer field has a circle form now. How deep it goes I can't tell but it means you are going to make it, like 99% chance. (I don't think it's possible to fuck up if you made it this far but I can't say for sure)



>no fringebay.com

Feels bad, man.

@travis3090 on Wire

I have noticed all the shadow stuff that started bubbling up when I was initiated starting a couple years ago has finally ended. I used to have lots of gore visions, fucked up dreams, thoughts and astral visitations, weird synchronicities… I'm way more stable mood-wise as well. The thing is all these things can be chalked up to the end of my Saturn return and my pathworking and other work.

There is something, though. Last night I swear I could feel my energy channels flowing, opening up. This afternoon as well. I could feel as if I had been doing heavy energy work. Even now if I concentrate I can feel it. This could, theoretically, be related to something else, but not really.

I'm sure everything is synchronistically tied anyway.



OP, my astral/whatever senses seem to be amped up to eleven (compared to how they usually are for me). At the same time it feels like all the spirits have fucked off. It feels cleared and calm. I seem to be "alone"? My life is still good.

Anyway, can you check me out please? Could you also teach me to look at my own personal so that I don't have to bother you or depend on you?

I think I'm the only one who has used this flag here.

Thank you.


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Your image is dominated by the red/white pipes depicted here


and it looks like your body is generally opened up well, energy flowing.

There's usually one thing taking over the image because it's in focus right now and then it's difficult to tell what the other parts are like.

Looking at yourself is a bit different, you can't really look at yourself because you are looking out from a center so you can't fully see yourself. It's a blind spot. You can look at your surroundings and at your future and past and what things look like close to you. But those are the relevant parts, because you already know you are alive and what your situation is like, so what's about to come is the interesting part anyway.

When starting this you need to find a place where you can really sense things. It's going to be vague, weak and far from relevant at first, but you'll be able to interpret it if you maintain the idea that

>everything in the world revolves around me

so if you see world events in the news, you should think

>why did this happen in relation to me, what is the universe telling me by letting this happen?

Mundanes think this is an absurd idea, but this is how you start noticing things. You can also look at clouds outside, someone has been showing me very accurate messages in the clouds. Don't try to understand how, but there are guiding spirits who can do this if you are aware of it.

But going back to the energy signatures, you can start by this exercise and see if it has any effect


use the color scheme from here, it is accurate

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Now as an example, if I focus on the background energy where I'm at, it tends to be a pink field with a black field beneath it. It's a pretty thick field and going by the tone it's a combination of supportive energy and some which seems supportive but is actually supporting laziness (false comfort). Looking at the deeper layers there's an orange field which I assume is created by the cabal magic. Above this is a yellow/white field which has to do with what people believe in, some of which is created by me after interacting with people and making them trust me. Faith tends to be yellow. There are also some white small clouds spread out, those are harmful substances, toxic, and may be the reason I get headaches. White does not mean toxic in itself, the kind of white determines what it is. White is just white to mundanes but there are different whites. There is white for virtue as well, it's a different color.

All of this will make sense when you can see it. Similarly there is black as sin, and black as in endurance, they're different blacks.

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Hey guys,

I don't know a lot about the occult or magick, but I'm desperate. My social anxiety is only getting worse, and honestly it's probably gonna cost me my job and eventually my life. The constant feel of terror, awkwardness and humiliating scenarios i end up manifesting is literally killing me.

I've been on several medications and they don't don't help, which is why I'm here, I'm that desperate.

Is this something the occult could help me with somehow without having to sell my soul to the devil?

Sorry for the rant and if this is the wrong place for this. I'm in a really dark place, anons.

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You need to start thinking positive stuff. Download a bunch of self-improvement books and read them. I know most of them are shit and they are just repeating each other but if you have really bad social anxiety it probably means your thoughts are messed up. You need to start let's say "hanging around" some better thoughts. The way to do it is by welcoming them into your head, either by thinking them up yourself or by reading them from a book.

What exactly is your problem? Do you not know how to make friends?





What? Neither of these replies makes much sense to me.


>it probably means your thoughts are messed up

For sure. I'm not shrink, but it probably stems from a fear of rejection, wanting to fit in, stuff like that.

>Do you not know how to make friends?

Not really, I have friends and I don't have a hard time making new ones. It's just that I am extremely uncomfortable in social situations. I'm always second guessing myself and thinking that others are constantly judging me. It's like a perpetual parallel inner chain of thought.



1. Read Grant Morrison's Pop Magic! and specially the parts on invoking the gods

2. Instead of invoking a god, invoke a demon that personifies your social anxiety.

In the ritual separate yourself from this demon, and dramatize a performance in which you control it.

3. Profit.

The rationale behind this is that you detach a part from your own brain (your social anxiety personified as the demon) and control it through the dramatization that the magickal ritual consists of.

This magick doesn't necessarily have a supernatural component so it'll be easy to carry out even if you're a skeptic, given that you dedicate yourself enough to it.


Join an intentional community. That's what worked for me.

A really cool thing happens when you live in the same place with the same people working towards a common and wholesome goal for an extended period of time; you're pretty much guaranteed to endear yourself to them eventually unless you're just awful. Once you've got a group of people you spend every day with who love you social anxiety evaporates.




And these places tend to attract socially awkward people so you won't be the only one

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Im very scared of being mislead.

People on here talk a lot about how there are many corrupted traditions and paths in mainstream spirituality today, perhaps such as new age, wicca, or normie oversimplified hindu-buddhist doctrines, various occult authors who are jews etc.., but they rarely highlight what specifically they mean as far as I know.

well I'm going to assume the people who say these things, have direct experience of actual truth, and can recognise what is false.

So please share, what are the problems with these things? Which ideas are wrong that 90% of common books on magic/yoga/meditation promote, and how can you tell if an idea is false or authentic to reality anyway? How do you know if you are being misguided or not?

Would anybody more wise than me, help us understand what are common half-truths, or lies supposedly floating about in the esoteric world?

What are some examples of obviously wrong teachings in new age / buddhism / hinduism / occult?

Besides all the books that are 'kosher' on the fringe reading list, what are some authentic hindu, and buddhist paths / traditions that you reccomend to learn from? If I were to learn Kriya yoga from a local western ashram, how do i know if it is legitamate teaching, or if there is disinformation in these schools? How can I choose a suitable path other than an arbitrary decision??

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What does it mean to universalise?


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Never accept as "truth" anything you haven't confirmed yourself. Even if you've seen it by yourself, question your own judgement.

What is important to you might be totally trivial and useless for others. The opposite is also true.

Also, there's really only one thing you must do: Find your guide that is a greater yourself you'll perceive as an external entity and let it guide you.

Also what this anon said



That's bullshit and your own mysoginistic obsession/neuroses.



>That's bullshit and your own mysoginistic obsession/neuroses.

That's reasoning and logical thinking together with observation of real life and facts. That guy is not the first one to observe this and won't be the last. Any thinking men will eventually come to this conclusion, unless he is cucked and brainwashed beyond repair.



If you think "spirituality" revolves around feminism and unveiling the natural evilness of women like that buddhazero.com website you have an unhealthy obsession there.

Good luck ascending to the spiritual-est levels of MRA until you reach menirvana.

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I hope that you like this.

I have some good resources. The threads this was on were suddenly archived or just deleted.

This video here, https://youtube.com/#/watch?v=CpH_rXGHX1w , is a remote "soft kill shield" for targeted individuals of all kinds. It will work to destroy many harassments. This other, https://youtube.com/#/watch?v=OZCgOoGSLdQ , is the second version of the targeted individual scatter frequency. I hope that they help."

"Dive deep within yourself, speak to your Higher Self (read Why I am no longer a Lightworker 1 and 2, by Cameron Day), enter your Akashik records, and you shall Know. We are One with the All (Infinite Source) as the All (Infinite Source) is One with Us. If you need more guiding, read from Bibliotecapleyades and Montalk. Finally, listen to the following videos https://youtube.com/watch?v=RQIO9cqwgcE [Embed] , https://youtube.com/watch?v=pSyUT2p4H24 [Embed] , https://youtube.com/watch?v=feilxGTQkow [Embed] , , https://youtube.com/watch?v=XvyPscRD1ss [Embed] , (commas are flying so they do not become part of the link).

Each has instructions, and the last one is particularly important; only watch it 1 time per day for 5 days, then rest for 2, and then you may repeat it. Beware that sometimes channels will try to brainwash you; the ones I have listed are safe. Reclaim your Divine Sovereignity, Fight the Parasites, STS/Duality Low Vibration/Frquency/Density Beings and the different Matrix Control Systems.

Remember always, do not go into the light when you die."

Demons and archontic parasites absolutely hate the last video!

Also merging one of my other comments:

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hmm, yes


Videos found! First, we have ESTABLISH DIVINE ORDER, to establish the Order of Divinity in your Life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ajExBhR55E

Second, we have The Interconnection of Everything, to help you realize how Everything is Connected in the One (and thusly, your Own Divinity): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KQhfz1Wg14

Thirdly and lastly, we have the complement to the Interconnection of Everything, the Realize the True Self of Others, to help you see the Divinity in Others: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feilxGTQkow




The first video is made by the DrVirtual7, and the others are made by Sapien Medicine.



>if you want to be ridden of contracts and other funky stuff more easily, there's this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ5KlTHcE2Y it has an insane amount of declarations of "I Refuse <X>"

hmm they're worded "I do not consent" which I thought that universe doesn't recognize "not" so wouldn't that make one consent to it?

"I refuse" is definitely what he should have gone with. Suspicious


and debt is spelled dept. @_@



>the "morbid curiosity" bit where you convinced yourself to disempower yourself and feed a parasite is to what I was referring.

Yes, I kept seeking out "safe lies". Lies that you sucker into and nothing too bad will happen from being suckered into them. If you're a procrastinator, then the lie of "having enough time so it's okay to put it off for later" is a common one.

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The Jews Blow The Whistle On Themselves

There is a reason the Talmud warns that to reveal the nature of the Jewish religion would be the end of the Jews. The real Jewish religion is Kabala this is the fourth and highest level of Judaism. And it shows that the Jewish "god" is false and the Jews are criminals abusing occult power liberally for their own gain at the cost of the Gentiles.

The Jewish Rabbi's state that the 22 letters of their Alphabet are the 22 resonances of the Jewish soul and each letter is designed to fit into a pattern with the Jewish soul specifically. This is further shown as the 22 paths on the Jewish world tree which relate to the map of the Jewish soul.

The message in Kabala is that "God" didn't write but engraved the Ten Commandments into the two tablets. This is code for engraving the letters into the soul. The Two Tablets represent the three pillar's of the world tree the left, right and where they meet in the middle. The Ten Commandments also represent the ten worlds on the Jewish Tree of Life. The other message is there is 613 laws of the Torah are summarized in the Ten Commandments and 613 this adds to Ten. There are also 600,000 letters in the Torah.

This is showing the Torah is kabala as the Kabala states. But each Jew is stated to have their own special letter in the Torah. The point of this is the entire Torah is literally connected into the Jewish soul. This is why the Torah is shown as the Kabbalistic Tree of Life and called the body of their God…..The Jews simply have created a matrix of energy that ties into their soul to bring about their own agenda.

There are Kabbalistic stories that show the most important are the first Ten Letters of the Hebrew Alphabet as this relates to the letters of the Ten Worlds. Which "god" creates with. God here is code for all the chakra's. Each world and its pathway also relates to specific Hebrew letters that "god" the adept uses to create according to the properties of such.

In Kabala the Jews admit their "god" is just a matrix of energy they have created with the use of Hebrew mantra's such as the Torah which is called the longPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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I dont know much about reiki but i have a friend that practices angelic reiki and he did a session with me once and i can tell you that it worked for me.

I'm mainly a practicing buddhist of karma kagyu lineage and he managed to heal my throat chakra that was somewhat blocking me and also helped me to open my heart chakra also I went into a past life which i will not discuss. this helped me with my buddhist meditation a lot and i also got some very good information on what i need to work with to improve overall

during the session i was like a fireball of love and energy and my heart chakra was so bright. The only time i had a similar experience was with dmt (which i very rarely got to use) where a 'female' spirit poured love into my heart that created an aura that was felt past my chest area for 3 meters.

That being said; as a buddhist I work with negative emotions to progress. im of the idea that nothing can truly harm me when I have bodhicitta. everything is love; everything is bliss; there is no duality. conscious creates pain but pain is only relative to an ego or identity so its only illusion.

What im trying to say is that there is no need to be scared. Supposed negative spiritual practice cannot harm you if you dont let it.



Thank you. I've been reading up on it and your sources are a nice addition.

All I can say is that I would never recommend being initiated by someone else, because there is no telling what they are connected to, regardless of what they claim to be working or not working with.



>also I went into a past life which i will not discuss

That caught my interest. Why wouldn't you want to talk about a past life? Shame? Fear of identification?



>All I can say is that I would never recommend being initiated by someone else, because there is no telling what they are connected to, regardless of what they claim to be working or not working with.

Agreed. I am particularly weary of anyone claiming to work with "angels", "ascended beings/masters" and benevolent ET's/Alien intelligence. In 25 years of reading every piece of occult literature I could get my hands on I've found that these beings have nothing to offer that is new or even non normalfag-tier. In fact I've found them to be quite devious, offering mainly good energies and feels littered with messages about how special you are which incidentally is what most people reaching out to these beings want to hear. So many dupes out there who think they are spiritually evolved because they block out all "negativity" and only think happy thoughts. It's like they're on spiritual Xanax. All the best to them but no thanks.



Well, yeah. Higher-level aliens and Tryptamine others operate on a serotonergic system responsible for recognizing conscious others in the absence of a material stimulus. Of course it's you you're talking to. Such is the nature of invocations. Why would someone do magic if it's just going to suck ass and all they're going to meet are cosmic d-listers? Hard enough to summon up anything half believable. I'd hope I'd summon something with a little charisma! Nobody wants to how down before an ectoplasmic hikki spirit.

As for being told weird shit, just ask and you can be told all sorts of neat stuff to make you go nuts, if that's your thing.


Do not start threads just to ask a question; post your questions in a pre-existing thread instead. Previous thread: http://archive.is/dUYqP FAQ: https://8ch.net/fringe/faq.html Mewch: https://mewch.net/fringe/res/1.html

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May The Adversary not reem your ass too hard in these coming times. Either you're a shill or just gullible but either way, change is coming my friend *tips fedora*


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Please don't ignore me this time.

I'm trying to do the first exercises of Liber Null and that one guide from some artist (Psychonauts manual, I think it's called?)

It says I need to be completely still for at least half an hour, am I allowed to swallow the saliva in my mouth? I can handle the rest but the saliva gathers in my mouth obviously.

Next question:

About how long will the introductory stuff take me? Now don't come with that "the journey is never over" BS, you'll just call yourself a noob.

I put a screenshot of the part I'm wondering about most.



Don't pay any attention to it, swallow when absolutely necessary.

Over time, you will stop being consciously aware of it, so it should stop being a problem, but you will probably start drooling.


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>lucoa is a supernatural entity that talked to the author of the manga



sure whatever. those 2 helped me raise mine tho. or at least ganesh did. the archetypal gatekeeper of kundalini.


I never did it but I wouldn't bother with the complete stillness of anything other than the mind. I'd still minimize movement.

I can get into a trancey state of lifelike imagery but with difficulty/not usually intentionally. I haven't put in any practice with that in mind, though.

Also I'm surprised that guide doesn't say breathe into the third eye rather than exhale out of it. Maybe they're trying not to have people overload it with energy.

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