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Idk i just want her to be my friend and lover all my life…ive jad the thoughtform for years and everyday i seem to be getting clser. I just want to be ambitious for her and give her a decent place to live in with me.

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Is there any way to completey rid yourself of being a social animal?

All I want to be is isolated however my animal needs to socialize come back out…

Ive tried tulpamancing extreme interest in hobbies. I honestly do not know how to comoletely rid myself of the need for humanity. Ive made it my lifes goal to figure it out..

There has to be a way..

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Rule 2 is a good one. hiding


For me, I don't fully comprehend my mind until I've tried to explain a chunk of it, and rubberducking has never worked at all. (I forget what I'm saying to a rubberduck, or where I am in what I'm saying.) I don't know how to replace that need yet. Or, if I do, I don't know that I know how to replace that need.





Is that the rule where you post in questions thread?

I have like 3 unanswered questions since the threads so dead.



Coyote Shaman path might be something you'd like to look at. It's a combo of a couple of disciplines.

- ranger

- hunter

- wizard

- healer

- detective/shamus

- lawyer of sorts

- recluse but able to do a little travelling in cities or the outskirts of them.


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>Is there any way to completey rid yourself of being a social animal?

>There has to be a way..

Spend a couple of months with a self identifying narcissistic psychopath.

Allow yourself to be completely immersed in their reality.

Don't defend your boundaries when they cross them.

Allow yourself to be completely destroyed.

If/when you finally free yourself of them you will need a long while of self isolation. This will be instinctive, based on primal survival mechanisms and not surface personality.

I would advise having magical remedies already in place in advance, because you will be like a burn victim after, and extremely vulnerable to things.

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Continuation of this thread: http://archive.is/XqeXn

1) Pledge an amount of time. Preferably a number of weeks. Post it in this thread.

2) If you break your pledge, you must also confess your transgression in this thread.

3) If you keep your pledge you may reward yourself… with more time pledged!

4) For purposes of this thread, "masturbation" is defined as touching your genitals for purposes other than basic hygiene and expulsion of wastes.

For those of you who have entirely transcended physical sex but who use succubus and so on you can also make pledges here to control your sexual thoughts and try not to evoke or meet any entities to have sex with.

Remade the thread since the last one was very popular and hit the bump limit and many of you want use your generative powers for a higher purpose than mere wasted moments of hedonism.

Post any techniques for the transformation and proper use of sexual energy here also.

Personally I feel that stage one should be to completely stop with touching or physical stimulation of sexual energy and learning to take that desire and drive and focus it mentally into thoughtforms. If you are going to entertain lustful ideas at least don't be a silly mundane about it when you could be using thoughtforce to telekinetically get yourself off or something similar. Straight up fapping is for mundanes.

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Guys I channeled some powerful loosh and basically I achieved the end-game of all this sex shit but now I just feel burdened and locked down. Probably going to leave everything behind to wander around and focus my energies elsewhere. Women are a distraction from more important matters. I feel like Buddha right now when he left his family.


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I will here on only masturbate with one week minimum in between. Porn is no-no.


I pledge 555 hours



Lol, something more reasonable, 168 hours



I failed.

Pledging another week.>>105177

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So, with the world immersed in a second cold war and so many other things going on, I guess it would be just natural that wizards had some visions of what's going to happen. So I made this thread to test and polish our skills, but also acquire some extra awareness.

I used to be fairly clairvoyant with important events, but I stopped practicing and it's been years since last vision.

What have you seen so far? If you haven't actually seen anything, why not try it now? This thread is not only to post visions of the future you've had, but also to encourage clairvoyants to see what lies ahead in these turbulent times as well as some tips for beginners, or for those who forgot how to do it. Make it interesting. Good luck to you all.

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A reader had a vision of middle america, IOWA was made mention of. Stated that something that should never leave, left. All with bad emotions and a feeling of dread



So did the win?



I'm going to come here whenever I'm wondering what won't happen in the future.



Anyone else tried these? How long before results?

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UPDATE: I have given the board over to one of the mods from /pol/ and he is adding several other /pol/ mods, this will ensure that the board is in good aryan hands, I have told them though to ban rule 7 breakers for 2 weeks, and everyone else for 15 minutes per offense, hopefully they moderate fairly…

My youtube account and my gmail account have both been shutdown. I was using them both for many years and they have very suddenly today been locked down faster than I could react to salvage anything. My Samsung Galaxy Tab S which runs Android (Google shit) has stopped working and been locked down, I think it's about good for nothing now, or I have to put a new operating system on it that isn't android maybe to be able to use it again for anything. My board is being raided over and over incessantly by people skilled in social engineering who are trying to overthrow me, besmirch me, etc. and put an end to my mission to provide an uncensored outlet for occult information and discussions with their endless onslaught of spam. I am unable to post in the Order of Fringe Wizard's chat on Skype and some unusual fuckery is going on with that and I have a lot of problems with Skype in general, including leaks of private conversations and indications that my Skype account has been compromised. I have had my steam account hacked by IPs coming out of Russia and also because I just lost my gmail account I now have no way to recover my steam account, it is fucking toast. The games I paid for I will never be able to play because (((they))) can just disable my account and since everything is tied to the account and there's no way to keep a CD or something like back in the day the situation is fucked.

Although I have decided not to talk about it at all until now; I keep getting approached in real life by people from the military and undercover police and uniformed police, all of who regularly talk to me and "check up on me" and make me nervous sometimes how they seem to drop hints to me that could be concealed threats. Besides that I also keep encountering psychics everywhere with unusual powers that always recognize me right away, maybe by my aura or some other way, that there is something about me that is unusual and merits their attention and their open use of powePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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I emailed smileberg and he hasn't responded. https://8ch.net/4chon/res/204407.html That's gay. I just wanted the password.



Kill Assad, Nuke North Korea, Praise Trump.





You autistic faggot manchildren don't know what's coming to you.



You will die on dotr kike. Hail Trump.



Fucking 4Dchessfags, Trump will not solve your problems for you and he will not be your savior. Unless he gets America un-kiked and ushers in a Golden Age of prosperity by removing Israel, that is. Also this is shitty bait.

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How do you manage to have any dignity when you live in fucking Canada?


asians love canada

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Have I Mastered my Craft?

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Continual recycling of the Mercurial principal. re-mastery, over and over again of the masculine and feminine principalities.



I like how you included me in the drawing (I'm that gray squiggle in the background right?)



Its a little bird lol



but what does it mean?



What does it impart to you?

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How do i cure my moms husband of his traumagenic system?

He got gangstalked from his tumblr and they called him hus deadname and tgreaterned to rape and murder him just because he didnt go along with a plagiarized autistic pedophile endigenic abdl ddlg communities demands.


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I want to give a little introduction to thoughtforms for those that don't understand what they're about and how to use them. If anyone has anything to add in addition to what I'm going to say in summary in this post, reply in the thread, and later on we can have a page created for all of this. I will try to give also a breakdown of the many different classifications of thoughtforms but will appreciate others input in this task of defining the different classes of thoughtforms as described by various authors and traditions.

Introduction to Thoughtforms

Thoughtforms are created by imagining any given form you wish, concentrating on them, and using the emotions to strengthen them.

Thoughtforms are created out of loosh (emotions). The more loosh you can part to them before getting too drained, the stronger they are.

A thoughtform can be very simple or complex and sentient. Your own mind is composed of many thoughtforms and your auric substance, when seen clairvoyantly, can be seen to gather in spots you concentrate on and parts of your aura to break off there.

During emotional shock, your aura goes really thin, and lots of the auric substance is lost; transformed into various thoughts and absorbed into a memory.

Every day we naturally create many thoughtforms all the time. A wizard however does it purposefully and intentionally.

There are many different exercises concerning thoughtforms to strengthen your ability in working with and creating them.

To begin with, you should imagine all manner of geometry, as well numbers and letters, simple shapes and objects… note every detail you can about them and also note that many details FILL IN without you thinking about them at all. Automatically, certain textures, colours, etc. you didn't give any thought to will appear. There is a secret in this observation that allows you to do many amazing things with thoughtforms!

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etc…. the fuck is all this?



Just some faggot looshing for digits.



Chad Warden


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>this entire thread


Would anyone happen to have a compendium of the most popular egregores? I know of Kek, Thoth, and Eris obviously because /pol/ wont shut up about them, but do any of you have a patron that you interact with often? I knew this one occultist who would often talk about a particular demon he would feed loush to in exchange for secret insight.

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Previous /fringe/ Music Thread: http://archive.is/ZMwz1

You've never heard music like this.



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Ozzie Ozzborne - Mr. Crowley


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David Bowie's Tulpa "The Thin White Duke" - Station to Station


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Jimmy Screamerclauz - Mutwa

(Whole album is /fringe/)

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I do not want to be a slave to utility bills, rent, or debt. It is insane to think that most people are wasting their lives slaving away to pay bullshit like that all because conventional homes in Canada are all built in an inferior and wasteful way that completely ignores the requirements of building in harmony with this environment. Who the hell wants to work every day of their life just to pay never ending expenses like that? How do we advance forward to better things if we intentionally build millions of homes and sell them for a half million dollars each at the minimum and enslave the people to debt and all those homes are fucking shit and falling apart in just 30 years and the people still haven't even paid the mortgage off yet and they need to repair their energy-inefficient nonsense homes?

I am buying some land that happens to be surrounded by national park. I have about 10 acres that is my land and then on all sides it's surrounded by endless trees; so I basically have 10 acres to build on but then the benefit of being surrounded by thousands of acres of trees. The water is so pure here that you can see very deep into the water also I drank it without boiling or filter and at first I got a little sick (still could work and stuff, just felt a little odd in my stomach) but I kept drinking it and after a period of adjustment my body adapted and now I can just drink the water and be perfectly fine. Doesn't even matter if there's some mud or what have you in it. That said I'm planning to make a well and have a proper water filter and all that. I just wanted to take my chances and see if I'd die drinking the water or not and I lived; I saw a dog drinking it multiple times and thought to myself if a dog can drink it then I'm a sorry excuse for a mammal if I can't do the same.

I have for a long time been wanting to live off-grid and researching different building styles. I will have about 30k, maybe more like 20k, to build a house here. There already is a "house" of the exact style as in the youtube video I have posted for this thread. It however uses glass bottles for letting light instead of big windows and it has a sPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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I need to find houses built in swamps or under water to figure out some designs that will last forever that aren't undermined by wetness.



Sweet Fedora.



The romans used volcanic ashes and mixed the concrete with seawater to get very durable sea tolerant concrete;



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Reality Creation 101

I'm writing this thread because I see a lot of confusion and even worse, disempowerment floating about here. Thus, It might be time for a refresher on reality creation. Now, there are an infinite amount of models on how the universe works. We're going to leave that out of this because I have mine, and I'm assuming you have yours. What this inevitably boils down to is one question; How good are you at getting what you want? Magick can be thought of as "The applied science of manifesting your will into reality." So let's get real here. How good are you at it?

If you can shoot fireballs out of your dongus, but can't find a loving girlfriend… Then you have failed as a mage.

If you can levitate your balls off the floor with the power of your mind, but need to wipe your ass with a crusty rag because you can't afford toilet paper…Then you have failed as a mage.

If I were to ask you "Do you have limits?" and you were to answer with anything other than an immediate and empathetic "Hell NO" then…eeyup. You have failed as a mage.

We live in a universe where you really -do- get to have everything. You can think of the universe a …cosmic chef. When it asks you "How would you like your desert" you're more than able (and entitled to) say "On the sweet side please!" the trouble is that most mundanes (and even some of the neophytes here) say "Just deep fry some pig shit for me thanks." and then endure eating it with all of the stoicism of a cow standing in the rain. Is this you? Well no more. I know you. I know you are better than that. So we're going to set out to changing your order.

Heres a sample of what we're going to learn in this thread.

A. Why the law of attraction sucks donkey balls.

B. How to use emotional resonace to create the reality you want, along with two simple tools and a discussion of how to select the right one for the job.

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>I can control my emotions just fine

Then make them feel genuine.


>No namefaggers rule broken.

Meeeow we're talking.


My name is Mr. Jay Falcon.

Now we've gotten that out of the way. Questions?


Three questions today..

1. Perhaps loss/deprivation is sometimes useful in realizing value/need. There is some talk about how doing x before y is reckless and unsafe, but what is occult danger? How can a person get into trouble relating to occult practice? Specifically we would ask for the kind of trouble that has atleast some aspect that's interesting or spectacular.

2. Consider a person that is suicidal.. Isn't it more accurate to say that his/her ego, or some other component depending on which "psychospiritual" model we use, is suicidal. Can we consider the concept of ego-suicide? If the ego is creating pain and is aware of that situation, the ego might be willing die so that the remaining creature might be free of pain, perhaps substituting another ego. Is it possible then for the current ego to enter non-existance in a form of ego-suicide that is apart from physical suicide?

3. Another thought..

If we suspect that the consequences of a deliberate physical suicide are undesirable and do not solve the issues that brought it forth: Can we consider manifesting accidental death? In other words can we intend to die accidentally and manifest it like we might conventionally manifest good fortune, wealth, love, e.t.c.? What would be the consequences of such a death, would they differ from those of a deliberate suicide?

Sincere thanks for those who read, consider, and/or offer input.



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Can we have a thread to discuss the implications of quantum mechanics? To begin with, some things which are widely accepted in the theory

>things can exist in superimposed states, in which they are neither one thing or the other, but the two at the same time

>the evolution of these superimposed states is deterministic and given as a solution of the Schrödinger equation, except…

>…if you try to measure something, in which case the wave function collapses the system presents to you as one definite state

>this gives rise to the "measurement problem", which is a hole in the theory that one could interpret as placing conscious beings apart from the physical reality

>the act of measuring can also change the past of a particle, even if you are observing a photon which has been traveling for billions of years before reaching you (see Wheeler's delayed choice experiment)

All this seems really odd to me, like it's pointing towards something transcendent about reality. And if that wasn't enough, one could argue: why do we ourselves always assume definite states? If other things require conscious entities to look at them in order to take a state, then each of us has to be constantly observed by an external consciousness in order to exist, which could be what people have always recognized as "God".

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Can you explain to me in more detail why speaking your intent would destroy your magic?



Quantum mechanics makes it possible to build a time telegraph

Then you can use it to receive the plans for a more complicated time machine.



It's an observation, not a hypothesis. I have no idea why that is. It just does.




Because it is spoken. The thought ceases to exist only in brainwaves/ether and begins to exist in physicality. As mentioned, letting a thoughtform become a known entity subjects it to everyone else's view on reality. If its secret then the only rules or potentialities it has to occupy are between you and your higher power.

Breath carries the energy necessary to turn on words and your body the place for that energy to take on form or intent.

Being quiet about your workings doesn't make them more potent, only less diluted.


Some things you can predict with certainty, other things you cannot. The difference between science and metaphysics is very simple: for science, the end is contained in the beginning; for metaphysics, the end is open. Let me explain this because it is a valuable concept to understand.

When you can predict what will happen at a particular moment in time, that event might as well have already happened. Throw a ball in the air at a given velocity and a physics formula will tell you when and where it will land. Its landing spot is decided the moment it leaves your hand; the beginning contains the end. This is what science strives toward: to study nature in order to predict it, to predict nature in order to control it.

But science encounters a little difficulty in the quantum domain. It’s known as the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, which explains that you cannot completely nail down the behavior of reality at the subatomic level. For example, the more you know where a subatomic particle is located, the less you know where it’s going and vice versa.

Position and momentum, these are like the opposite views of the same cube. In one view we see three sides, in the opposite view we see the other three sides. The more we see of the first, the less we see of the second and vice versa. Yet all six sides exist simultaneously as part of the same cube.

The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle is simply a clue from our Creator that 3D space and linear time are illusory, that everything is happening in the Infinite Here and Eternal Now. Existence is an unchanging holographic fractal; the only thing that moves and changes in this fractal is the focal point of our consciousness. The “future” is an endless zoom into the fractal.

While science says the Uncertainty Principle is limited to the quantum domain, this is actually not so. Like leaves floating swiftly along a river we sense no immediate motion around us and falsely conclude the river is still. In truth, quantum principles are in full effect even on the macroscopic scale, but since our experiences through “linear time” are products of these effects, we are oblivious as leaves in a river.

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Blake K's Greenpilled Fitness & Nutrition Library


Previous thread here; http://archive.is/tr1ew

What is fitness? Being fit means…

>Competency in biomotor abilities (strength, endurance, power, flexibility, balance, speed, agility, coordination) in relation to needs or goals

>Muscle size, body composition, and activity level that matches needs or goals, not societal definitions or pressures

>Mobile joints & relaxed muscles

>Natural spinal and body alignment fostered by strong bones

>Effortless nasal, diaphragmatic breathing

>Youthful respiratory quotient)

>Efficient digestion and elimination

>Healthy heart and good circulation (strong pulse and warm extremities, tip of nose)

>Rarely experience sickness

>Excellent sleep, libido, and fertility

>Relaxed yet focused mind

>Positive outlook

Fitness is an essential part of proper initiation. While bodybuilding is not necessary, (and bodybuilding can easily become an egoistic pursuit for "a beautiful body" and not good health!!), proper exercise connects us to our physical vessels, giving us more conscious control over them. And as the cliche points out, "A healthy mind in a healthy body"; a well oxygenated brain strengthens our consciousness, fends off mental haze and sluggishness and improves psychological functions such as memory.

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Hey /fringe/,

I want to take up a greenpilled diet soon which will consist of alkaline foods.

Now I already did some vegan semi-fruitarian diet once and made kinda bad experiences, so please tell me this:

My main problem that always occurs on a diet change is a feeling of cold and also cold sweat. I tense up and don't feel comfortable.

Is this a lack of calories? Am I not eating enough?

As I see it, to avoid this I'd have to eat huge amounts of veggies/fruit in my meals - this is overeating, kinda bad. Or I'd have to constantly chew on something throughout the day - this would constantly engage my digestive organs, which is kinda bad too, right?

I'm pretty unsure on how to deal with this issue.

Also is there a reliable meditation/breathing technique for acquiring prana instead of eating?

I've tried some things already (and also that one technique from that one forum that gets linked here constantly - it was shit) but none seem to work. I ended up living on my pre-birth qi for a while, but it was a very flawed experience and no way I'd call that a success.



Your body is weak as fuck. You need more Jing. Boost your mitochondria too. Get big eat big train like you're in hell (start with purgatory then move onto the first ring of hell all the way down to the seventh). If your body is fucked by weak shocks, you need to be doing something else dude.


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I have an idea that exercise both absorbs qi and turns it into jing into physical shit. Tao -> Ling -> Shen -> Qi -> Jing -> Body. It ?ascends? into the body from that more energetic tao shit.



It's true that I haven't been working out lately but I'm not sure if this is the reason. Back a few years when I was in top notch fit condition, I didn't try the vegan diet so I guess I'll have to start working out again to verify. I think I'm just not eating enough tbh.

Anyway, Isn't the usual energetic routine that one is born with pre-birth qi and uses this up gradually by sustaining manifestation. The additional qi from food also helps to sustain this one.

So the conclusion really is that you have to eat bigger to manifest stronger. If working out and not eating big, the pre-birth qi gets depleted faster instead, aging will occur. At least that's how I experienced it.

I don't think that exercise absorbs qi, it's probably more like you are breathing more intensely during exercise and thus gathering more qi.






I recommend ultra-bulking with coconut oil (some sort of oil), whole milk if you aren't worried about it, meat and potatoes.

Once you learn how to process the shit out of heavy dense foods, you'll be able to maximize your ki. 1000 extra calories a day, so, 3000 calories if you workout light, and 4000 if you workout heavy. Add a lot of fermented foods, and strengthen your stomach and spleen ki with some very specific and rigorous earth cultivation.

Isometric work is appropriate for Earth training. Horse stance, plank, handstand, bridge, superman, planche/pseudo planche hold, reverse plank, and whatever else you can think of.

When I do the earth version of squats (yin earth specifically), I focus on slow, even, consistent time under tension. Same tension, same time, taking all the weight off of the joints and just receptively meditating through the motion, learning the biomechanically superior method. This requires moving quite slowly of course, spreading the weight through the feet, relaxing, and adapting your body to the movement.

After probably 15 reps, my legs were shaking all throughout. Felt like a house falling apart in an earthquake. Then my upper body was shaking as well.

By the end of it I felt like delicious, spicy beef jerky.

So yeah try an Earth cultivation month.

The pre-birth qi thing just seems like a dumb idea to me. Boost your vitality and surpass your limitations. Qi gong can allow you to live to 150+; I hear bone marrow washing is one of the techniques that permits such a long lifespan.

For reference, the Wood element (Liver and Gallbladder) is considered the most vital element, and is responsible for expanding and cultivating the Earth element..

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