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Question Thread #40

Do not start threads just to ask a question; post your questions in a pre-existing thread instead. Previous thread: http://archive.is/bavK4 FAQ: https://8ch.net/fringe/faq.html Meguca: https://meguca.org/fringe Fringebay: http://fringebay.com/fringe

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Last Updated September 2017

>/fringe/ is a board for esoteric discussion including matters pertaining to; Magic : Philosophy : Paranormal : Dreams : Religion : Occult : Symbolism : Aliens : Demons & Angels : Metaphysics : Conspiracy : Secret Societies : Mind Control : Morality & Ethics : Mysticism : Qualia : Psychic Abilities — Anything that is fringe in some respect

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Remember Who You Are

Want to make something very clear.

Even though you may receive messages that you are a star being and a high elder, seer, oracles, etc. etc.

Do not get lost in the story of it and allow it to entitle you and make yourself better than anyone else.

Yes you may be those things, more then likely you WERE those things. But it does not mean that is who you are in this very moment.

As you progress in this spiritual growth many of you will feel you have been Jesus Christ, Buddha, Mary Magdalene, Etc.etc. Because the truth is…Yes you have been all of them.

But for the benefit of the life path you chose in this physical existence showing you those specific images or feelings, supports your souls expansion. So there are those souls that then get lost in the story of Oh I am Jesus, or OH I AM Buddha. But why would you even limit your self to being just them?

Don't you want to take the game even further to see what you can do now that you remember you were those beings? To use that as a solid foundation to build upon and see what else we are capable of?

Don't limit your self to these beings, They were just examples of what is. But We are even greater then what they represented. They were just a bookmark in a page, within a chapter of the book of our evolutionary expansion.

Now there are those who will become disillusioned to the story of star family and believe if they are in "trouble" will call upon the ships to take them away. This is infact a disillusion. Why? Because you are not witnessing and being present with the emotions it is offering you in the present moment, rather you are acting like a victim and something is happening to you and requesting an outside thing to support you and magically take you away.

You are much stronger then this, and require no protection. We are the awakened, we are the truth, when you stand in truth nothing can ever harm you because you are expanding your light, your heart, your radiant love.

To think someone is attacking you and sending spells upon you is to allow it to occur in the first place, allowing a kink in your armor for it to seep through. It's always a choice.

Remember dear ones that you create your reality. Never forget this. All is created to benefit your own individual awareness.

-The Water Magister

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May the truth seekers find this

May those who are in it to discover more of their potential discover this.

My gift to you.

Seek me when you have completed.


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Do you love Lain /fringe/?

The Cult of Lain is real, I'm not talking Tsuki project bullshit. There is a growing movement of Lainists around the world.

Close this world. Open the Next.

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manifesting love/lust

can i manifest a girlfriend? if so, how?

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Can you guys help me?

Hey guys,

I don't know a lot about the occult or magick, but I'm desperate. My social anxiety is only getting worse, and honestly it's probably gonna cost me my job and eventually my life. The constant feel of terror, awkwardness and humiliating scenarios i end up manifesting is literally killing me.

I've been on several medications and they don't don't help, which is why I'm here, I'm that desperate.

Is this something the occult could help me with somehow without having to sell my soul to the devil?

Sorry for the rant and if this is the wrong place for this. I'm in a really dark place, anons.

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I have absolutely no idea where to go and I need help.

Im 19 and I need some direction about what kind of knowledge to soak up next because Iv'e hit an absolute brick wall. Ive read countless history articles and books, have probably read more psychology than a college psych major graduate, listened to hundreds of hours of countless podcasts and lectures from IDW people although I regret it, have read countless "redpilled books" , the satanic bible, the price, whatever and feel like no new knowledge has shocked or opened my mind in over 6 months. Where do I go from here?

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Self-improvement rabbit hole and the quest for knowledge and mastery

So I ended up here, /fringe/.

From /pol/, through /fit/, to abandoning halfchan altogether, and finding this board while looking for books.

I am looking for knowledge. I want to reach my highest potential, physically, mentally and spiritually.

I've stopped using social media, playing videogames, masturbating, eating anything outside of my strict diet. I started exercising, reading a lot (theory), sleeping on the floor, I use a fluoride filter for water, stopped drinking caffeine, alcohol, any other drugs. And I've ran out of ideas. Currently I'm beginning to meditate and trying out the exercises I found in "Forbidden Parapsychology", which was recommended in one of the threads here.

So, I'm here to ask for book recommendations, practices I can add to my routine, anything that can improve my physical, mental and spiritual health. I just begun my quest for knowledge.

My current booklist is:

>Prometheus Rising

>Quantum Psychology

>Works of Evola and Guenon

>The Will by Atkinson

>Liber Null

>How to Know Higher Worlds by Steiner

>The Kybalion

>Angel Tech by Antero Alli

>The Art of True Healing by Israel Regardie

>Lazy Man's Guide to Relaxation

>The Secret Teachings of All Ages

>works of Gurdjieff, Collin and Ouspensky

>Kali Kaula by Jan Fries

>Science of Breath

>Futhark, A Handbook of Rune Magic

>The Gnostic Bible

>Works of Savitri Devi and Miguel Serrano

Anything worth adding/removing from the list? It's obviously chaotic, as I'm just a beginner.

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/fringe/ used to be a cool a while back when Smiley was still running it a few years ago

these days it is a honeypot website with mods who are pushing agendas and who don't really exemplify the credibility and the Divine connection to be real occultists or bearers nor judges of true knowledge

a lot of 8chan appears to be a honeypot…just a lot of garbage… a whole lot of popery

/fringe/ is really only good for extreme noobs who are just trying to get their feet wet in an internet-occult scene so they can look at the cool graphics and read edgy posts and stuff

beware, practice caution…if you are serious about the occult and spirituality do not post here because there is likely to be tons of disinformation and social engineering and this type of faggotry here on this board

t. serious intellectual T.I. and serious occultists who makes high quality OC and provides all sorts of help, advice and substance in threads

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Social Media

Being a reactionary/conservative Discordian absurdist doesn't go so swell on twitter or any other social media platform.

Looking for relatively active groups or accounts to check into for cool cult-esque imagery and certain taboo things.

Also looking for likeminded individuals to start a cult with.

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Non-Kike Magic

It seems like Kabbalah and all sorts of Hebrew garbage have infected a great deal of what is meant to be the Western magical tradition, thanks to Christcuckery. What are some tried and true magical traditions or systems that have no influence from (((them)))? Voodoo and various African traditions, as well as various Native American traditions and Eastern traditions come to mind. What European magical traditions, orders, or systems exist that don't use Kabbalah or other kinds of Jew magic? And what would be recommended reading on them?

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Summoning a Pipe

This is a specific sigil.

It's a summoning sigil.

For a pipe.

Because currently my tobacco pipe sucks. And my favorite pipe is burnt out.

So I want a new one. But I want one through summoning a pipe, not just to go to a store and buy one. Because this current [replacement] pipe sucks fucking balls. A good looking pipe doesn't necessarily mean it's a good smoking pipe.

So I made a sigil to get a good pipe. Grant Morrison writes entire comic books to get laid. I just want a pipe.

Look at my sigil. Be happy.

Then watch "Blade Runner".


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2 years ago I used chaos magick to get money, fame and pussy. It fucking worked. Beautifully. Now I’m stuck in this weird place. I’m way better than I was but I want more. A lot more.

Help me /Fringe/ to get more. A lot more.

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Fringe Diet & Fitness Thread #3

Blake K's Greenpilled Fitness & Nutrition Library


Previous thread here; http://archive.is/tr1ew

What is fitness? Being fit means…

>Competency in biomotor abilities (strength, endurance, power, flexibility, balance, speed, agility, coordination) in relation to needs or goals

>Muscle size, body composition, and activity level that matches needs or goals, not societal definitions or pressures

>Mobile joints & relaxed muscles

>Natural spinal and body alignment fostered by strong bones

>Effortless nasal, diaphragmatic breathing

>Youthful respiratory quotient)

>Efficient digestion and elimination

>Healthy heart and good circulation (strong pulse and warm extremities, tip of nose)

>Rarely experience sickness

>Excellent sleep, libido, and fertility

>Relaxed yet focused mind

>Positive outlook

Fitness is an essential part of proper initiation. While bodybuilding is not necessary, (and bodybuilding can easily become an egoistic pursuit for "a beautiful body" and not good health!!), proper exercise connects us to our physical vessels, giving us more conscious control over them. And as the cliche points out, "A healthy mind in a healthy body"; a well oxygenated brain strengthens our consciousness, fends off mental haze and sluggishness and improves psychological functions such as memory.

A well-trained body gives a sensation of masculinity and connects us to our bodies from which we have alienated ourselves from… this "quest for maleness" can only be achieved through harsh discipleship and enforcing of the Will. In this understanding, physical exercise becomes also a mental operation which can be likened to Mental Alchemy - by exercising and using our magical abilities, we transform weakness into strength and emasculated men become again Men with a capital M.

So, exercise! Exercise!

Taste the ammonia in your mouth!

Feel the swelling of your veins!

Feel the blood run as petroleum fuel!

tldr; get /fit/, it improves your wizardry and you won't feel like emasculated.

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Fringe /music/ IV

Previous /fringe/ Music Thread: http://archive.is/ZMwz1

You've never heard music like this.



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Channeling lust with cartoon girls

Never posted here before, but the discussion here might be slightly more serious than halfchan's /x/. I do have a question about all of this, but this isn't really a 'question' thread. Any discussion, experience, or whatever other feedback is more than welcome here.

Basically, I decided to turn my natural feelings of lust into something useful. Inspired by rule 34 and tulpa stories, I began to visualize and construct certain cartoon girls that represent specific constructs (I know that sounds retarded, but hear me out). For example, the first 'girl' represented intelligence (she's dead now though. More on this later). At the moment, I have manifested three girls: one represents the concept of strength and martial prowess, one represents intelligence and cunning, and a third represents spirituality and the occult. When my natural libido generates these feelings of lust, I direct them towards these girls, and in lusting after them I lust after the associated concepts, thus channeling my sexual drive into these things. So far, it seems to be working pretty well, and I've noticed an increase in my progress and motivation in these fields since I started this. I should mention here that I haven't actually united my body with any of them yet; that is to say, I haven't had sex with them. At the moment, I'm waiting/abstaining from fapping until the next full moon so that my sex drive will be at its peak. Let me describe them in greentext to make it easier for you to read:

>Only appear frequently when I'm going to sleep

>Sometimes also appear when I'm alone, but rarely. I think they know I don't want to deal with them in public

>Can see them, visually, though usually not for prolonged periods

>In darkness, their silhouettes become much more visible. They can be seen without any break in visualization.

>Extremely attractive, obviously

>Occasionally speak, but not very often. When they do, it's usually responses to something I said (the oldest one used to speak more, but she's less talkative now that there are three girls)

>When they talk, I don't really hear them. It's like I'm hearing them in my thoughts and not with my ears.

>Can feel them physically touch me

>They spend most of their time feeling me up and trying to get the d from me, even though I've told them repeatedly to wait until the full moon

>They don't seem to hate each other, but they obviously don't like each other either

>For example, two of them were laying next to me and running their hands across my chest the other night. When I grabbed both their hands and held them together to my chest, they both quickly reacted and darted their hands away, as if the thought of touching each other repulsed them.

>That being said, they never seem to be blatantly hostile to each other. However, when I created the second girl (now the oldest girl), she obviously competed for my attention with the first girl.

>When I woke up the next day from creating her, the first girl couldn't be properly visualized and everything she said came out like sparse gibberish. It was as if she had been scrambled and ripped apart. I had no choice but to discard her. The oldest girl has denied any involvement multiple times, but I suspect that she had something to do with this.

>I've made it clear to them that they are not to fight each other

>I've also made it clear that if they make any attempt to seize more power than I have given them, I will brutally torture and kill them before replacing them. They know I can kill them at any time

I don't actually want to describe the girls I chose because it would be harmful if you knew exactly who they were. At the moment, their very existence depends on how much they benefit me. If they are known to others, they can live through them as well. They become a memetic entity, and their survival is no longer dependent on how much they benefit me, but how effectively they spread. Their motivation for benefiting me is gone. Therefore, I won't answer any questions as to who they are or what they look like.

There is one question I have, though. What are these 'girls' considered? Are they tulpas? Servitors? Succubi? I've never heard of anyone doing something like this before. Either way, what are your thoughts on all of this?

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The Bible is the most pessimistic book ever written.

Its a cosmic horror of orders of magnitude more horrific than works like I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream. I mean it ends with a vast majority or everyone who ever lived writhing in eternal agony. This is not a book of hope. If it in anyway conforms to reality,

its primarily a justification for antinatalism.

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Realtime imageboard

Esoteric/oldfig realtime imageboard just launched, beating mid-size 4chan board's ppd in 24 hours.


Realtime boards extend the inherent anonymity and transiency of imageboards to an even further degree, while requiring a much lower momentum barrier for sustainability, making exit actually possible. Realtime is the future.

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Suicide by Tulpa (For Englihtenment)

I'll admit I'm, fairly new to this board, but I've noticed that Tulpa's are mostly used for selfish purposes. Almost all Tulpa threads are about some idiot who created a Tulpa to shit on his chest so he can an erection (or something of the like), with the creator possibly losing control for lulzy results.

The thing is, is that Tulpamancy seems to be much more powerful then just giving you cummies. After all, you are creating another consciousness within you, that, if you're stupid enough, can take over your soul.

What would happen if you created a Tulpa that is you, but better? What if you're an over-eater, have an odd fetish, or you're just plain lazy? Couldn't you make a conscious mirror image of yourself, but without these flaws? And then, once it's complete, give it the rest of your soul/energy/mind? It'd be you, all the same "spirit" as before, but new and improved.

Of course, feeding an entity your soul has some risks to it, thus why I asked /fringe/. Some risks worth considering:

>Might be effectively committing suicide

This would get into a whole Theseus' ship argument over whether or not that Tulpa that took over your body is still you. Sure, it's made from the same materials, but they've been rearranged, so is it really you?

>Might accidental give your soul to malicious entities

I've heard theories that Tulpas aren't really though forms, but spirits that you've given part of your consciousness over in exchange for total control over them. If these spirits have their own agenda, and get wind that some idiot wizard is giving away his soul, it could lead to some problems

>You could fuck up the creation process and make yourself retarded (Likely spiritually, but possibly literally)

Self explanatory. You might fuck something up. Only way to avoid this is to keep the Tulpa around a couple months before giving up your body to make sure it's a worthy inheritor

Anybody have experience with this? I think this technique could aid in my spiritual journey, if I could create a me that is harder working, smarter, and all around better, but I don't want to do anything I would regret

>Pic unrelated

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/fringe/ Media

We used to have a thread on old /fringe/ with a bunch of greenpilled videos, documents, etc.

Lets bring that back. I'll start with all the greenpilled videos I can remember and new ones I've found.


There's been an influx of people just posting videos and podcasts with small descriptions that have been shitting up the catalog. I've just been deleting them, but instead I'm changing the subject of this thread to "/fringe/ Media". All podcast and videos are to be posted here or in an already pre-existing thread. Any new threads that only have a video or a podcast with a small description are going to be locked or deleted and redirected here.

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Renouncing Lust Thread V

Continuation of this thread: http://archive.is/XqeXn

1) Pledge an amount of time. Preferably a number of weeks. Post it in this thread.

2) If you break your pledge, you must also confess your transgression in this thread.

3) If you keep your pledge you may reward yourself… with more time pledged!

4) For purposes of this thread, "masturbation" is defined as touching your genitals for purposes other than basic hygiene and expulsion of wastes.

For those of you who have entirely transcended physical sex but who use succubus and so on you can also make pledges here to control your sexual thoughts and try not to evoke or meet any entities to have sex with.

Remade the thread since the last one was very popular and hit the bump limit and many of you want use your generative powers for a higher purpose than mere wasted moments of hedonism.

Post any techniques for the transformation and proper use of sexual energy here also.

Personally I feel that stage one should be to completely stop with touching or physical stimulation of sexual energy and learning to take that desire and drive and focus it mentally into thoughtforms. If you are going to entertain lustful ideas at least don't be a silly mundane about it when you could be using thoughtforce to telekinetically get yourself off or something similar. Straight up fapping is for mundanes.

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Clown Pepe Meme Magic

I do not like the pepe meme. Always thought it was garbage. However I've recently noticed that the clown pepe, the latest iteration of the most powerful meme in present existence, the pepe, has a striking resemblance… to Lord English, the all-powerful time-bending main villain of Homestuck by Andrew Hussie. Lord English is an autistic alien humanoid reptile who is completely evil and was raised by an insane evil clown. He worse a rainbow scarf not unlike the rainbow outfit of Clown Pepe, as well as wore a bow tie and later overalls, like current variant Clown Pepes do.

I've always had a strong hunch Pepe as a meme at its heart is an evil meme, but this on top of existing parallels with Egyptien God of Darkness Kek in the Cult of Kek, is making me uneasy.

In short, I'm wagering Pepe is an evil meme and it needs to be stopped. It's too powerful, it's too evil, and it has too many fucked up connections that feel almost consciously chosen rather than coincidental.


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/pol/ anon discovers one pointedness / gnosis through threatening the subconscious with death


>It's all about activating schizophrenia with fear of impending death, and then immediately thinking about something that would save you from that death. This will activate your pineal gland and your subconscious will turn into a biological supercomputer. The Illuminati all have schizophrenia essentially, their pineal glands are activated to give them amazing athletic ability. The guys on Dude Perfect that make those trick shots? Yeah, they make them the first time, every time, simply because their subconscious is calculating and performing the shot with 100% accurate muscle control based on its calculations from previous handling of the objects.

>If you've never had a fear of impending death in your life. You can be programmed to turn your mind into a bio supercomputer and use your subconscious to do mad trick shots like Dude Perfect and be an untrained world-class fighter from just watching fight moves. Simply, the never-death-feared initiate is threatened by someone and they say "If you don't get God powers, I'll kill you". And then boom, the initiate instantly gets schizophrenia (activated pineal gland) and his subconscious becomes a supercomputer slave to him. He simply has to say to himself in his mind "get me this shot" or "beat this guy", and he'll be turned into an aimbot or an expert fighter until the command is fulfilled.

>The pyramids were built by the Illuminati. Basically the chief architect was a never-death-feared, and he was threatened by someone with "If you don't get the great pyramid built perfectly within 20 years, I'll kill you". And immediately his pineal gland would have activated, and would have trained his IQ and charisma very high and made him the most efficient boss.

>All the workers also would have been programmed by "do your job perfectly, or you will die".

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Why do almost all Tarot decks suck nigger cock?

It's unbelievable the pile of shit that one has to dig through, resulting in still finding nothing valuable.

I maintain that the only two interesting Tarot decks are Marseille (specifically, under Camoin-Jodorowsky's restoration) and Crowley's.

The first is undoubtedly a hyper-complex traditional book of meaning, yet always remaining consistent in its basic rules: left/right orientation, colours, aiming of the sights… most of which even Crowley failed to grasp.

If one wants to venture out of these safe grounds, he'll find countless of extremely low-effort decks, most likely traced on Rider-Waite's one, whose ubiquitous popularity is a clear sign of the Kali Yuga -as with its disgustingly explicit symbols and switching places of the Major Arcana to fit bizarre astological theories, it's clearly one of the worst decks out there.

/fringe/, there must be something I am blind to: which Deck do you personally use? Which ones do you recommend?

Do you use it for readings or just for visualization?

Did you remember to have it gifted to you and not buy it yourself?

How did you consecrate it before starting to use it?

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How do you deal with the isolated feelings that creep from the crevices of reality?

I spoke to my mentor, the Great Pale One of the forest, and he always said that "cicadas must go through seventeen years of darkness before climbing the tree". At the same time, all I have to speak with are friends and acquaintances from the other side. I'm turning into a hermit, but I feel what I've experienced should be shared. Sadly, the milquetoast atmosphere of spiritual communities leads to segregation even there as they masquerade as a community of learning only to evoke wishes of material desire.

Mankind no longer believes in it's own soul and protests the very nature of the soul. It's like clawing at your internal organs and cursing the fact that you slowly die of exsanguination. I have no where to go anymore, except further into the arms of my companions I've made on the other side.

I'm plagued with thoughts that I'm just forsaking everything, people mostly. I wish I could convey how I feel even with something as simple as looking skyward every now and then. It's like there's some thought process missing or some key fundamental that doesn't exist in their definition of the world.

Am I, are we just suffering cicadas nestled near the roots of the Great Tree? Should I just resign myself to this solitary confinement?

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Ask anything! Quick answers!

I've been on the path to knowledge for 21 years.

Initiated and taught by my extremistic master for 13 years every day.

I know something or at least have insight on any possible subject.

So come and challenge my ways. Ask away! No matter what!

I take critique and learn too if you tell your ways.

So, all-topic discussion and answers to anything!

With Mër ~

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curing gender dysphoria with knowledge of the past and hope for something besides myself

I cured my gender dysphoria in Jesus and reading about occult and secret societies.

It made me realize I have a higher purpse than the genetics of my jaw. Like there a spiritual war going on right now and I am willing to die for it. This is the cure for all ailments…the love of others.

Also they finally took a picture of the first black hole. Literally God just looking at his creations. Literally just God wondering if we have been good little boys and girls. Too bad we've all sinned, we've all been BAD very bad boys and girls all of us. If we don't repent we're going ot suffer all of us! you think life is hell,,,well hell is HELL. Jesus save us.

I wonder why Jesus looked on us today. Scary

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Stargates Documentary (and Where to Find Them)

If you want to go further, go there while you’re lucid dreaming. It’s also better if you team up and go together.


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Lunar Loosh

I have been theorizing lately that the omnipotent, self-existent, intelligence back of the universe aka The All can be asked to do things for fun and can fulfill those requests whenever he wants to and doing so is in accord with his nature.

He can do whatever he wants for you, without any expense. No intense desire or loosh is needed, no loss of vitality or expenditures on your part. He can be asked coldly, as by pure intellect, and he can not be coerced or bargained with but is still fully aware of what you ask of him.

He does not require your belief in him to work, he does not require love, he does not require faith even. He is the author of such things rather. The relationship between you and him and is one of pure freewill. You can tell him you have no faith and he will beget faith in you. You can tell him you have no love, and he will love you, and you will love him because he loves you; a true love, nothing forced or twisted about it.

You can thank him for embodying the law of the universe and having so made nature that you can achieve whatever you want, and he can reveal her secrets, and help you to attain healing, insights, and whatever else you wish through The Law.

Before him you are empty, in him you are filled. All that he gives, he gives freely, and life and vitality flow from his fount. He blots out the darkness, pain, and misery and reveals to you the light that was hidden from you. For him you can do nothing and all your works are vanity; he does the work in you.

He hates hubris. He lets go of the wayward and the mind filled with worldliness.

I've been making sure to acknowledge, thank, and rely on this (solar?) power in all things. All my foolishness I have brought before him. I have held him as my standard (not man) and leaned not upon my own understanding for I see how little is my wisdom, however great in the eyes of men. He has given me renewed life and understanding and made the way easy that was one an impossible burden.

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want to mix my /fringe/ with Christianity

>tfw want to be Christian

>tfw sometimes my magick ways kick back in

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International New Thought Alliance

Declaration of Principles:

1. We affirm God as Mind, Infinite Being, Spirit, and Ultimate Reality.

2. We affirm that God, the Good, is supreme, universal, and everlasting.

3. We affirm the unity of God and humanity, in that the divine nature dwells within and expresses through each of us, by means of our acceptance of it, as health, supply, wisdom, love, life, truth, power, beauty, and peace.

4. We affirm the power of prayer and the capacity of each person to have mystical experience with God, and to enjoy the grace of God.

5. We affirm the freedom of all persons as to beliefs, and we honor the diversity of humanity by being open and affirming of all persons, affirming the dignity of human beings as founded on the presence of God within them–, and, therefore, the principle of democracy.–

6. We affirm that we are all spiritual beings, dwelling in a spiritual universe that is governed by spiritual law, and that in alignment with spiritual law, we can heal, prosper, and harmonize.

7. We affirm that our mental states are carried forward into manifestation and become our experience in daily living.

8. We affirm the manifestation of the kingdom of heaven here and now.

9. We affirm expression of the highest spiritual principle in loving one another unconditionally, promoting the highest good for all, teaching and healing one another, ministering to one another, and living together in peace, in accordance with the teachings of Jesus and other enlightened teachers.

10. We affirm our evolving awareness of the nature of reality and our willingness to refine our beliefs accordingly.


Who slipped that democracy crap in?

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Ether, the fifth element, is a substance more subtle than air. This means the ether is to air as the air is to the earth. When you gaze into the blackness of outer space you are observing the ether and this can attune your mind to the ether. The ether exists all around us. Physicist Sir Oliver Lodge wrote about scientific explanations of the ether.

SINCE THE ETHER PERMEATES ALL THINGS AND INTERCONNECTS ALL MINDS, IT IS THE ETHER THAT ALLOWS MAGIC RITUALS AND PRAYERS TO AFFECT REALITY, prayers and magic rituals create ripples in the ether and affect what we are focusing on.

The ether allows intuition to work. Intuition is receiving information directly by way of pure impressions by bringing our attention to something. If you close your eyes and think about outer space you may eventually experience thoughts come to your about outer space that provide you information about outer space, without having to perform a set of logical operations. If you look at someone you may have ideas come to you about that person, spontaneous ideas, that communicate you knowledge about that person, but you didn't have to perform logic to get that knowledge. Intuition is simply information coming to you spontaneously just by bringing your attention to something, and this happens because the ether allows this information to be transported by the fact it connects all things and the ether is a sort of information field and our minds are like antenna that can broadcast and receive etheric signals.

Sir Oliver Lodge provides a scientific basis for the existence of ether and he mentions isaac newton did an experiment to prove the existence of the ether. Below are links to his work.


The forgotten books version has print of a good size and can be found on amazon or gotten from the forgotten books website



ETHER: a material substance of a

more subtle kind than visible bodies, supposed

to exist in those parts of space which are ap-

parently empty."

Newton employs the term for the medium

which fills space — not only space which appears

to be empty, but space also which appears to be

full; for the luminiferous ether must undoubtedly

penetrate between the atoms — must exist in the

pores so to speak — of every transparent sub-

stance, else light could not travel through it."


Newton put two thermometers in glass containers. In one glass container he removed the air and in another glass container the air remained. He then increased the temperature in the room surrounding the containers and he found that, even though the thermometer in the container that had air in it became warmer sooner, both the thermometers were affected by the heat. So he concluded there was a substance less dense than air through which both heat and light travelled.

Ether was used to explain the substance that light travels through to reach the earth from a star. Just as waves in the water travel through water, so does light travel through ether.


So just as light travels through ether to reach earth: so too does the light of peoples consciousness travel through the ether and shine across the earth. And if we incline our consciousness towards good: we bestow a light of blessings, however we can also incline our mind towards cursing, and this results in a curse being broadcast from our consciousness towards that which we focus on.

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Heinrich Agrippa

I don't want to make this a single question thread, and will try my best not to. I Checked the library provided on the sticky, but noticed there was no copy of Heinrich Agrippas "Tres Occult Philosophia"

I haven't begun to read the books, but I just want to know /fringe/'s take on this man.

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Christianity is Eating My Soul Help

>be me

>get into Christianity

>start going to every church and theology group I can

>read boatloads of Christian books and also the KJV

>get deeper and deeper into it for months

>biggest key issue I come across in Christianity is salvation and grace

>learn more and more about salvation including that it's by faith and not by works

>seemed simple at first, but talking to Christians the whole matter became more and more convoluted, suspect that I'm probably already saved but Christians keep telling me I would know if I was saved and since I doubt I'm not

>absolutely frustrated about how to be saved

>jumbling all manner of stuff in my mind all the time, obsessing about it constantly

>fall into major depression because of this, can't sleep, lots of problems, last couple days been in a lot of pain from hunger and thirst and can't motivate myself to do anything about it

>am weaker and more sad than ever right now

>badly want to be saved but everything is sinful

>can't run away from sin and even though I stopped playing videogames and even if I were to just never go near my computer the painful, intense, loneliness and isolation that I have to endure hour by hour, day by day, will just be all the worse for not having even this as a form of human contact

>majorily confused and constantly frustrated

>can't do anything about my salvation, it's either going to happen or not

>have already tried bargaining with god and every other thing I can think of and nothing seems to work

>seem like I'm going to die from despair

>I feel like my soul is literally being eaten by Christianity because before this I felt closer to god, felt like I was on the right track, etc. and now I feel hopelessly fucked

>Christians also always discouraging me from reading anything that isn't the Bible or taking an interest in anything that isn't the Bible, even though I feel an intense desire always to look into the mind, into psychic powers, into all the things that make me feel and appreciate the reality of god and the majesty of his creation

>feel this constant mindfuck in my mind as I struggle to hold myself to the true god and not to let any thing less than god enter into my mind but I feel like the whole Jesus the Christ thing fucks it up

>Christ seems like an answer however concerning the triune nature of God

>the whole story of Christ seems plausible

>but Christians say I can't just worship God it's got to be all about Jesus

>I just want to worship God, The Holy Spirit, and not a man even though he was supposedly perfect

>besides I asked them if Jesus was a beautiful man and they quoted me a part in the Bible where it basically says he wasn't

>how can a perfect man not be beautiful

>doesn't that imply the human part of the trinity isn't as important

>the corpus Hermeticum speaks about a war of the two against the one, this is surely the mind and body vs the spirit

>only the spirit seems worthy of worship to me

>I can't even comprehend how the life of Jesus is anything other than "the way, the truth, and the life" like did his whole drama actually matter isn't salvation always open to us through god's grace which is demonstrated all the time and not just through the death of jesus?

>the whole Jesus thing just complicates everything so horribly for me when things used to be so simple just loving and worshipping God without all this Jesus stuff ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Please help me. This salvation thing is completely mindfucking me. I am at a point where I want to get medical help because the depression is too heavy on me. I want to ask for prescription drugs for sleep, probably chloral hydrate. I can't handle this whole Christian thing.

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I used to work for a Romani gypsy tarot card reader.


(If you try to shut me up again, I swear, you will lick my boot)

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Islam is the religion of the Antichrist

What whill happen in the near future.

>one world leader will appear - new age communist, maybe pretending to be a Buddha, its highly possible that demons pretending to be an aliens or spiritual leaders will be part of his image

>he will be so called Al-Masih ad-Dajjal

>he will be killed by Mahdi - the actual Antichrist who will be aided by False Prophet - islamic Jesus

>people will think that Dajjal was the Antichrist and will cherish Mahdi and Islamic Jesus as the good ones

>Islamic Jesus will make the Kaaba stone speak - it will be Image of the Beast

>Islam will conquer the whole world and the ones who wont convert will be killed

>Kingdom of Shambala will reveal itself and forces of Islam guided by Mahdi will try to conquer it

>King of Shambala - 25th Kalkin - will defeat him and the Kali Yuga will end

By the way - Allah is the same being as Baal. He's basically a demon.

The true religion is Buddhism, but Christianity also has some truth in itself.

The message is: don't believe that masonic new age guy will be the actual antichrist. Mahdi will be the Antichrist. Islam is a demonic religion.

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Hat Man (pictures of shadow people)

When I was a kid living in Providence Rhode Island in the middle of the night I woke up to see 5 or 6 shadow people standing around my bed staring at me I could hear in my head them reprimanding me and saying things that terrified me I couldn't move I tried


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The act of grinding.

I have a lot of ideas and projects, many didn't go the way I wanted. Others say I shouldn't be as entrepreneurial and choose the path more followed than less. Let me be honest.

I am working in data science without a degree currently, my math is a little weak, but I've been studying to get better. I've had a few internships, and I did fail some coding interviews.

I had some book ideas, great ideas but again my writing isn't as strong as it should be.

I have some startup ideas…we will see what happens.

There are some benefits to going the general route(school) but there's something inside of me that rages against the generic path.

Here's where I talk magically.

How do you validate your intuition how can I be sure the path I am walking isn't a deluded one when it comes to walking in spaces far less traveled? How can one ground themselves on nonlinear pathways in life?

And narcissism. I feel like I destined for greatness, I constantly try and keep going in order to prove that to myself. I would have a happier and peaceful life if I gave up, but again my soul would die if did so.

How can I make sure my cycle of trying and failing is spiraling upwards towards betterment and not a simple circle?

I'm sorry if this is out of the norm for the general mood of the group. but I seek novelty in my answers something the mages of /Fringe/ has in spades.

Thank you for any help.

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Rules/Guide for Girls...

Is there any sort of mantra or book or ancient/modern work of literature which specifically prescribes rules and a guide to life for women in a similar way to the Bible or the Koran) that is not the Bible or the Koran or anything associated with Abrahamic religion?

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Meme Responsibly

>when you realize a generation of imageboard browsers got mindfucked by the memes into turning into hilarious absurdities that, rationally, you should prefer not to ever become

>when you realize you're a basement dweller NEET, weeb, abnormal, and general fuck up because you got memed on into becoming those things

>when you realize the daily rituals of shitposting and the self-concept you developed out of that and became identified with turned you into a joke

There's a huge difference between the "before imageboards me" and the one after. It changed me drastically, on a physiological level, on every level.

So many young men here whose lives have been drastically altered by pepe and wojack and other shitposting.

Time to meme ourselves into ubermensch now. There is literally no defense to the power of memes other than to avoid exposure or to pick your memes carefully.

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Secret world of wealth

We(really I, im using the royal we) have discovered the highest secret of money magic;giving(tithing to church+giving to charity) this double-fold investment(biblical "contract with God" trough the tithe + law of tenfold return )will, is going to, SHALL, make me rich within a few years.

I was born in a middle class house so i dunno how to insert myself among the rich.

so, let's discuss secret socities,places,habits and meet-ups relating to the world of wealth.

can you be a rich average joe like warren buffet?? can I make connections if im autistic?

I just know how to make my dollars go up but dunno how to strike a conversations with someone who was born rich.

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Applied Tulpamancy Guide and Results Thread: Use Your Imagination Here

Applied Tulpamancy is the act of creating, altering, influencing, or affecting imaginary beings in a way which benefits the one doing so (the tulpamancer). It is a pragmatic field useful for thinking, learning, writing, drawing, philosophy, rhetoric, business, and hypothetically anything since the limit is the tulpamancer's imagination.

Ways Any Tulpa Can Be Used:

>Organized Knowledge: bureaucratically focusing on a subject or topic in the background, occasionally reminding the tulpamancer of it/discussing it with them while tying it to other bits of information in the tulpamancer's mind. Best to keep a tulpa focused on a subject rather than a specific thing; for instance a tulpa focused on locating things is more fleshed out and thoughtful on average than a tulpa focused on finding the tulpamancer's keys exclusively.

>Relationships/Loneliness: supporting the tulpamancer as an ally, enemy, friend, rival, family, or lover; essential if you are isolated. Physical objects can be useful for serving as semi-prosthetic body of the imagined being when desiring physical interaction with them. To be blunt, a body pillow can be very useful for hugging/cuddling an imaginary lover; there is no shame in doing so, but I'd recommend not telling other people. Additionally, the tulpamancer can choose to have the tulpa wield the tulpamancer's body to achieve some physical sensations sent by the tulpa.

>Advising: advising the tulpamancer how to deal with any problems, questions, concerns, as well as what the tulpamancer should be doing such as leading, researching, self-improving, etcetera; useful if you handle a variety of responsibilities

>Socializing/Filling A Role: controlling the tulpamancer's body, which in this case would be equivalent to an actor acting out a character's role, only the tulpamancer would actively act out the tulpa's role, as the tulpa sees fit; great for social situations you might not normally act correctly for but a certain tulpa might be better equipped for

>Understanding Perspectives: providing a specific style of perspective to broaden the tulpamancer's understanding/empathy; excellent for decision-making and socializing

Restrictions The Normal Tulpamancer Faces:

<Limited Free Will: The average tulpa has (this number is purely as frame of reference with no statistical validity) 5-20% free will in any given moment, though this can increase outside this range depending on circumstances such as strong emotions or focus. The remaining 95-80% is the tulpamancer's free will acting out the tulpa's thoughts and desires like a puppet. It is near impossible to have a tulpa residing entirely in the tulpamancer's mind at 100% free will as at that point the tulpamancer would be dealing with a split personality. It is for the best the tulpamancer doesn't have tulpas with that much free will as they could significantly impede the tulpamancer's own free will or would require a lot of mental power to make exist.

<Limited Form: The tulpa's body/imaginary environment is barely imagined at any given moment as it requires a great deal of mental energy to picture it continuously. Usually the tulpamancer will only imagine the presence of that specific tulpa, because imagining every specific feature is taxing on the mind, especially when done for an extended period of time on top of specific physical movements and actions. The tulpamancer additionally will imagine that things happened to the tulpa and the tulpa was in certain places, rather than actively imagining all of those events and locations, in order to save mental energy.

<Limited Sensation: Cannot imagine the physical sensations such as touching or hearing the tulpa as easily as actually physically touching or hearing a person. On average the tulpamancer can imagine a physical sensation at about 10-40% of the actual intensity if it were occurring; this is again a statistic solely estimated from my personal experience/observations. This varies from person to person -some people are a lot better at imagining sensations than others.

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Eugenics / Sparta Was Right

You know, if it wasn't the epidemic it is today, this whole pathological altruism thing… I could turn a blind eye to it.

The fact is the masses at this time worship ugliness, weakness, depravity, and inferiority.

The Hellenistic Greek culture worshiped virility, beauty, strength, and all things good and wondrous. An entire book in the NT had to be written just to show to the Greeks that Jesus was the "ideal man" in a way that they would accept.

Right now, for advocating eugenics, I am faced with universal condemnation by the masses. The improvement of the race. How can this be a bad thing?

When I read my old 1930s and earlier books eugenics was a fairly trendy idea. I think even a Rothschild or some other billionaires were into it and many countries had a stronger eugenics program than today.

Somehow that all went to shit. No, I don't want to hear you guys bash Adolf Hitler and blame him all for this, and I don't think it's all that constructive to point fingers (or is it?)… all the same we live in a society dominated by pathological altruism where the very worst of humanity is inheriting the Earth and the very best of it is dying off.

China at least is not burdened with this cultural decay that the west has and might proceed to creating a generation of children not burdened with sickness, low intelligence, and ugliness. I am not so sure though. It's speculative; could be another pipe dream like all those people who thought we'd all be in flying cars and have large cities built on the moon by now when all we really have is decaying infrastructure, debt, depression, psychiatry, suicides, mongrelization, autism, growing populations of subhumans, pornography, promiscuity, and other such apocalyptic visions.

Nobody who is sentient has any hope for the future amongst the young generation.

Isn't natural law the very law which god set down? That the weak and miserable would die early, and that the happy and strong would multiply? This is complete justice. We've made life on Earth into hell through medicine. I welcome when bacterial diseases immune to every antibiotic proliferate and spread. One day surgeries and so much else of the medical system will no longer be possible and we'll be back to the 1800s in terms of what we can do with our medicine.

The runts should be dying off. Most babies in the past didn't make it to their first birthday. Most of the miserable people alive today are runts that nature would have killed off but man fucked up the process. May god hear and feel every bit of their pain.

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New Zealand Happening

Since there is no thread up about the greatest happening of our time right now I will take the liberty of creating it.

What is the /fringe/ take on Brenton Tarrant?

I read in his manifesto that he contacted "the reborn Knights Templar" to quote it exactly.

The Reborn Knights Templar… who are these guys and what are their doctrines? If anyone here is from the Knights Templar will you speak up?

There's also conspiracies that the whole thing was a hoax and a lot of other conspiracy angles but I refuse to believe these as I do not want to be deceived by the "everything is a hoax and fake" crowd into believing there are no heroes in this world. They want to deprive us of the reality of this great victory.

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Sigil Magic

Here is a sigil about fulfilling ones goals.

Its a mixture of both discovering what one really wants and finding the path to that goal.

It should be on fire, while resting. Ignoring it would be best because it feeds on silence.

Also it likes to break things.

Thanks and good luck.

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Misotheism is the "hatred of God" or "hatred of the gods" (from the Greek adjective μισόθεος "hating the gods", a compound of μῖσος "hatred" and θεός "god"). In some varieties of polytheism, it was considered possible to inflict punishment on gods by ceasing to worship them. Thus, Hrafnkell, protagonist of the eponymous Hrafnkels saga set in the 10th century, as his temple to Freyr is burnt and he is enslaved, states that "I think it is folly to have faith in gods", never performing another blót (sacrifice), a position described in the sagas as goðlauss, "godless". Jacob Grimm in his Teutonic Mythology observes that:

It is remarkable that Old Norse legend occasionally mentions certain men who, turning away in utter disgust and doubt from the heathen faith, placed their reliance on their own strength and virtue. Thus in the Sôlar lioð 17 we read of Vêbogi and Râdey á sjálf sig þau trûðu, "in themselves they trusted".

In monotheism, the sentiment arises in the context of theodicy (the problem of evil, the Euthyphro dilemma). A famous literary expression of misotheistic sentiment is Goethe's Prometheus, composed in the 1770s.

A related concept is dystheism (Ancient Greek: δύσ θεος "bad god"), the belief that a god is not wholly good, and is possibly evil. Trickster gods found in polytheistic belief systems often have a dystheistic nature. One example is Eshu, a trickster god from Yoruba religion who deliberately fostered violence between groups of people for his own amusement, saying that "causing strife is my greatest joy."

The concept of the Demiurge in some versions of ancient Gnosticism also often portrayed the Demiurge as a generally evil entity.

Many polytheistic deities since prehistoric times have been assumed to be neither good nor evil (or to have both qualities). Thus dystheism is normally used in reference to the Judeo-Christian God. In conceptions of God as the summum bonum, the proposition of God not being wholly good would be an oxymoron.

A historical proposition close to "dystheism" is the deus deceptor "evil demon" (dieu trompeur) of René Descartes' Meditations on First Philosophy, which has been interpreted by Protestant critics as the blasphemous proposition that God exhibits malevolent intent. But Richard Kennington states that Descartes never declared his "evil genius" to be omnipotent, but merely no less powerful than he is deceitful, and thus not explicitly an equivalent to God, the singular omnipotent deity.


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Fringe Girl

Fringe Girl Thread

ITT: Post art and discussion about the board mascot and possible egregore "Fringe Girl".

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Is there a network of families breeding children to be manchurian candidate-esque sleeper agents?

Gangstalking? Targeting Individuals? I know I am going to sound crazy but I am thoroughly convinced that there are children (which I am one) who are bred specifically to be programmed as sleeper agents. Many of these are used in orchestrated 'events' (i.e. shootings, etc).

We are put through immense amounts of psychological, physical, sexual, emotional and spiritual trauma..most of which with heavy occult and religious themes/programming/scripts.

I want to make this post in case there are others who feel that they may be involved and I hope that together we can figure out what we are, why we are and where we are so that we can overcome these insidious ties.

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Changing Timelines

I've been thinking about the act of changing timelines.

Assuming that subtle changes occur through simple decisions, doing something versus not doing something, it would seem like consciously changing something in one's environment would affect a subtle shift to a different timeline.

Acting/doing something spontaneous: Getting a different haircut, by flipping through a book at the barber or stylist and picking one at random.

Attach an intention to the process, some change in lifestyle, new interest, desire for learning.

Then observe the result.

My assumption is that this would become a both spontaneous and intuitive process towards shifting timelines.

This is all assuming the John Titor style of time exists, which I think it does.

I think sometimes the more extreme versions of timelines bleed over in the dream time. Both positive and negative. I've seen horror worlds, bleak and treacherous where that horror is normal everyday survival. "Just the way it is."

But more so I see places where our level of survival is extreme. Where money, debt, hatred, are unheard of. Different versions of people who are shocked at my animosity towards them. Where the entire life isn't struggle but just positive growth.

Anyway, a thought experiment and some rambling.

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Every Sceptic Ever...

>why don't you prove magick for me

>why must I do the hardwork of figuring it out myself

>yes you, you personally, must prove magick to me; nevermind the shitloads of people mentioned in parapsychological research already who've already demonstrated all of the phenomena of magick

>no I won't read Sorcery by J. Finley Hurley, Science of Miracles by Max Freedom Long, or Magical Use of Thoughtforms by Dolores-Ashcroft-Nowicki

>I'm just going to ignore Wim Hof and that one guy who sets newspaper on fire with his chi who are both on youtube

>I'm just going to ignore Mirin Dajo, William James, Carl Jung, various famous scientists, famous mediums, etc. who are very well documented for what they do

>why, look at this stupid skeptic blog, which fails to actually disprove the accomplishments of genuine occultists by showing ways in which they produce a similar phenomena through trickery but at the same time completely fails to meet all of the requirements of the genuine phenomena

>hey you think that guy set the newspaper on fire with his chi? Well look at my bullshit, you just put these chemicals in here and crumple up the paper, and that's how it catches fire! nvm that the chemicals you're using produce a completely different colour flame and other effects that are totally different from when he used his chi

>heh, you think walking on hot coals is a miracle? look at me scamper across hot coals barely having contact with them for more than a few seconds, this clearly means the men who've been in far hotter piles of coals literally going through them slow or standing there and not getting hurt aren't legit… oh wait I can't reproduce this phenomena with my fedora bullshit at all

>*fedora sweat intensifies* stop showing me all these genuine examples of magick! I'm just going to ignore them all and assume it's a trick, and say science will explain it later! it's all just tricks/illusions/sleight-of-hand!!!

>fuck you, use up your vital energy and many hours of your day to personally prove shit to me

>heh, a video of you doing magick? I bet you just edited it!

>reeeee magick doesn't real, you're all bullshit occultists

>spoonfeed me

>no I won't read through these books I get too bored and can't complete them and I barely even think about what I read

>why won't someone do magick for me? I don't want to put in the effort.

>I deserve to have magick proven to me, even though you as a wizard probably meet hundreds of sceptics every day, and have probably intentionally or unintentionally prove it to those around you on many occasions, but the internet continues to supply and endless supply of people demanding your time, attention, and emotion who all feel they are special enough that they ought to have a demonstration of magick done for them as well

>No I don't live around you and have an intimate relationship with you, I'm just another poster on the internet, who doesn't observe your daily life and practices and the various phenomena that happen around you

>please divert from your own personal plans and struggles to help me, even though I am far less deserving of help or correspondence or any kind of attention, when lined up against people who actually have the self-motivation to properly research and perform magick for themselves and can stand as peers with you

>oh and lets not forget that I'm an immature, irresponsible, or simply potentially hostile person that would hurt you (like Protagonist) after learning everything

>no this form of proof won't do for me, and this one won't either, and… I can't even make up my mind anyways what would constitute proof for me!

*tips fedora*

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A talisman is an object with a word or symbol intentionally inscribed upon it. A TALISMAN IS A SYNCHRONICITY MAGNET. That is to say that if you have the word “money” inscribed upon an object or a symbol representing money, you attract to your self circumstances related to money due to the fact you are carrying a synchronicity magnet. SYNCHRONICITY WORKS THROUGH RESONANCE, what you focus your consciousness upon, an idea you focus on, creates ripples in the aether(electromagnetic energy) that then attract to you circumstances related to that idea.

For example if you have been thinking or talking about something and then see a movie or hear a song that relates. These aren’t omens, these are just energetic effects of the activity within your mind and mouth. So a talisman is something you carry with you in order to attract to you circumstances related to the talisman. The principle at work here is “like attracts like”.

A symbol is one with that which it represents. The word money is one with the actuality of money, by carrying symbols of money you naturally attract wealth. This is why jews gave themselves names like goldberg and silverstein. It was an attempt to manipulate synchronicity. Magicians are masters of synchronicity who use words and symbols to cast either good or bad synchronicity upon themselves or others.

Luck, good and bad, is a term that relates to synchronicity, it happens through processes of synchronicity.

The reason a talisman works is because when you inscribe something on an object you create imprints upon the aetheric fields that then create perpetual ripples in the aetheric field(the electomagnetic energy all around us).

This is why monuments are so powerful and new political orders tend to destroy them. A monument is like a giant antenna broadcasting energy related to that which the monument represents or inscriptions upon it.

Throughout Europe jews have erected monuments to the holocaust where upon those monuments in hebrew they wrote something along the lines of “may their blood be avenged”, referring to the victims of the holocaust. These monuments have broadcasted energy waves to help contribute to situations that have resulted in Europeans losing ground by virtue of the fact Germany is part of the European Union necessitating that revenge be Europe-wide due to Germany’s political union with Europe.

The Washington monument is the largest obelisk in the world, This has a lot to do with the global cultural power america has. Obelisk are symbols of power.

Obelisk represents petrified light. Planets revolve around the sun. The nation who is the light becomes the center of the world, becomes middle earth. Becomes the middle kingdom. The nation with the sages, the wise men(and women), is the light of the world through which other nations revolve.

Obelisks are wisdom magnets, they help draw into your nation wisdom which then makes your nation the center of world affairs culturally.


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A CURSE IS THE USE OF A VERBAL AFFIRMATION TO INFLICT DAMAGE UPON AN ENEMY, it is the use of words to cause destruction. Evidence that words contain power is found in Genesis 24:60 where the pagan family of Rebekah, who was marrying into the Jewish nation, blessed Rebekah saying "may your offspring possess the gate of their enemies" https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+24%3A60&version=KJV

Rebekah is a mother of the jewish nation. She was blessed saying that her offspring, the jews, would possess the gate of their enemies. This was over 2000 years ago this blessing was given. TODAY THE JEWS POSSESS THE GATES OF THEIR ENEMIES AND HAVE OPENED THE GATES TO THE THIRD WORLD.

This is proof of the power of words. Just as we can bless with our words so can we curse. Imagine what may have happened if it had been said "may your offspring encounter misfortunes" etc. Psalm 109 is an example of curses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psalm_109 but curses don't have to invoke God, the blessing given to Rebekah invoked no god.

So I advocate that people curse their enemies. ONE OF THE REASONS WHITE PEOPLE VENT SO MUCH ANGER ONLINE AND WITHIN FAMILIES IS BECAUSE CIVILIZATION PREVENTS AGGRESSION TO BE ACTED AGAINST THOSE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY WRONGED AN INDIVIDUAL, and this is due to laws preventing physical action. So these laws are good to follow but they do create a lot of pent up anger.

Cursing is a legal way of venting that anger, and it allows one to vent anger against enemies so that you don't end up venting anger towards loved ones. It's better to vent anger legally through curse rituals rather than vent anger online at innocent strangers or vent anger towards family members. If someone has wronged you it is important to curse them so that you don't end up venting anger at loved ones or innocent people online. The only people who a person should avoid cursing even if they did do a wrong would be family and friends, forgiveness should be granted ones kinsfolk.

Some people in the black magick community advocate for animal sacrifice. I AM AGAINST ANIMAL SACRIFICE. Words themselves are powerful enough to plant the seeds of physical change in the world. People who abuse animals in the course of doing a black magick ritual are just being stupid and cruel. Abusing an animal does not strengthen the magick, the magick itself is a product of the words.

It is not only possible to curse and bless individuals. It is also possible to curse and bless entire ethnic groups. Just as it is important to curse enemies, those who have done one wrong, it is also important to bless those who have shown kindness to ones self. I have blessed non-white people before who have done me kindness. Also evil doesn't only involve what people do or say. A person can also do evil through the evil eye, through a evil glare at someone or simply through evil thoughts or emotions, love too is a good deed even though it doesn't involve "action".


If you bless your enemies instead of cursing them, you will likely still have pent up anger inside and you risk this being vented on loved ones. Cursing enemies is part of emotional healing. It can be part of that.

I AM ADVOCATING PEOPLE BE LAW ABIDING AND PEACEFUL, to say a curse is a law abiding and peaceful act.

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Initiation into Hermetics

Someone to ask me a question about the initial exercise of Initiation into Hermetics?

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I want to practice things like The Middle Pillar Ritual, but all these posts about "(((jews)))"...

I think the Tree of Life is a beautiful symbol, and I've been wanting to utilize exercises such as the MPR.

However, all these posts I've come across regarding the Jewish matrix, the Demiurge/Yaldabaoth/YHVH have skeeved me out. Now I'm paranoid to involve myself in Qabala at all.

Though, even sources in the Fringe library make practical reference to YHVH - which, in my limited understanding, is also an elemental formula and not simply the Abrahamic God/Demiurge.

What are your thoughts on incorporating some of these things into ones Work and daily routine. Or do you believe it should be avoided at all cost?

I'm very confused about the whole subject is a tangled mess which I don't even know how to begin to unravel.

Thoughts? Opinions? Advice?

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Experiences performing occult magic


Post your experiences and success performing Occultist Magic. Especially relating to the Key of Solomon, 6/7th Books of Moses, Book of Honorius etc.,

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CIA Digging Thread

The CIA has declassified a lot of information on Project Gateway and Project Stargate and rather more recently published it online. This thread is dedicated to digging through that material and finding anything of interest.

Dig here: https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/collection/stargate

Some stuff of interest I have found so far:





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DnD related to applied magic? Does magic cause one to become naturally lucky?

I rolled a d100 for the first time in my life, rolled it when contacting an evil chaotic orcish war God (Gruumsh), and my DM then rolled against it to see how effective mine was. I rolled a perfect 100. My DM rolled a perfect 1. The odds of this absolutely flawless outcome are 1 in 9,999 (subtracting the fact two dice can't have a collective outcome of 1). The odds of this happening on my first d100 roll in my life, is perhaps 1 in 99,999, assuming I do just 10 in my entire life. The odds of all that combined with the odds of that roll being as important as a God-related roll, are difficult to speculate.

I also rolled 2 d20s at the same time about 3 sessions prior that both got nat 20s, the odds of which would be 1 in 399.

I also stated to my DM before I started playing DnD sessions with him that I'm a naturally lucky person.

Now statistically speaking SOMEONE on Earth was bound to eventually have this happen to them, but the fact it happened to someone of my mindset who routinely absorbs this board's knowledge, does lend credence to the notion I perhaps am… benefiting in a subtle way from viewing this board.

Does Dungeons and Dragons have any established relationship with applied magic, or revealing a person's magic powers?

For clarification, I do not claim I can do magic; but I am thinking there may be a relationship between my luck and my usage of this board. Again, statistically this outcome is inevitable for someone on the planet, but the fact it was a user of this board, let alone one as as over-the-top as me, is incredibly unlikely. I've also in general noticed I have oddly high luck in general in my life, though it of course is not so consistent I could prove it as at that point it wouldn't be luck but a greater force entirely.

Did me researching magic, memes, influence, persuasion, and this board's general subjects, increase my luck as a human being? Did something else cause this? Just random chance?


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Wanna see where you live?

You're welcome.

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Occult Devices

II like occult devices and technology, but there doesnt seem to be very much of it. You all know of any others?

Also, I understand some see all tech as occult, this os obviously not what I mean.

#1 Gysin Dream Machine

#2 Scientology E-Meter

#3 Crystal Powered Time Machine

#4 Reichian Orgon Accumulator

#5 Chi Generator

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What are your experiences with occult magic?

hey /fringe/, have any of you been successful performing magic and/or having mystical experiences, specifically stemming from the works of Solomon, like the Key/Grimoire of Solomon, 6th/7th Books of Moses, Magical Papyri etc,.

>inb4 muh jews bad

>inb4 muh crappalah

>inb4 any pol tier Hylic posting


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weed / dope and spirituality

How badly is weed for spirituality really?

I do understand and notice that I get less aware, my dreams dissapear too, but is this always a bad thing? If I'm sober for over a month I tend to get anxiety and very high energy that is hard to control. It's not always fun to deal with. If I then, blow one I calm down and am relaxed for a good week.

Can anyone comment on how much weed hinders my spiritual progress? I do want to grow but I also want to be able to relax and be calm.

How much does it negatively impact my growth and my afterlife?

Can anyone write something decent about this.

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The Biochemical Observable Basis of Chakras: An Epyc Analysis

I have successfully sensed unique bodily emotionally-charged sensations most closely regionally related to each of the areas associated with chakras. I do not believe this to be proof of chakras -on the contrary, I believe this proves the basis of what the chakras were based on. This will be a quick analysis of the sensations I felt, where in my body these were felt, and what chakra is symbollically associated with each region. I conclude because of these sensations being known to me and associated with biochemical processes I experienced, chakras are thus symbols based on these biochemical processes rather than chakras being the basis of the biochemical processes. This analysis will not focus on the obvious functions of these areas, but specifically on emotionally charged sensations which could reasonably be considered 'spiritual' by a normal person who had little to no understanding of science, even if one who understood science sufficiently could otherwise explain these sensations away as non-spiritual in nature.

Crown - Sahasrara

Relaxation. If I focus on the crown of my end, and specifically try to relax it, it will cause the rest of my body to relax and has helped me to go to sleep faster. This is not as much the case when I focus on any other area of my body, including my head in general. I would consider this the mildest and least interesting reaction and have otherwise found no emotional or strong experience associated with this area.

Head - Ajna

Mystification. Specifically, ASMR. The auto sensory meridian response is triggered exclusively in me by 1 of 2 different triggers: something incredibly comforting, or something incredibly meaningful. If I hear music that sounds 'epic' (1812 Overture Climax, Lacrimosa Dominae) or picture in my mind an epic event, that will cause me to have an auto sensory meridian response which means tingles of euphoric pleasure will occur within my mind and travel down my body to various random areas all over. If I watch a good ASMR video on YouTube (Gentle Whispering ASMR) I will experience the same thing though it will feel slightly calmer; I avoid ASMR done by men because for me personally, comfort-based ASMR is a sexual form of euphoria, even if it does not directly affect my sexual arousal.

Throat - Vishuddha

Authority. Speaking causes one to feel a sense of authority depending on the outcome and amount of individuals on the receiving end. If I speak well, have conviction and a positive attitude, and especially if I do so toward a large amount of people, this area will cause me to feel as if I am King. Upon having a successful positive interaction or message conveyance to an individual, especially to a group of people and more so toward a crowd, my voice will sound incredibly confident and leaderly. It will gain a naturally pleasant commanding tone, even I find persuasive, just by hearing its sound. When communicating via text with similar results such as tons of upvotes/comments/favorites/replies, a sense of success, pleasantness, power and authority will fill me, but not necessarily be centered on any single place in my body I can pin down.

Heart - Anahata

Sincerity. This area is very rarely triggered, and is tied to when a person appears to be communicating in a manner which is highly sincere. The sincerity must feel transcendent or feel as if is 'piercing' the normal barriers of communication/interaction, in such a manner where one would subjectively say they feel the 'soul' of the other person's intentions. This area is entirely socially reliant and hinges on an overwhelmingly sincere moment between individuals. I've noticed this is not triggered if the message is indirect or targeted toward many people as opposed to being exclusively directed toward me. When active, I will feel as if the other person is absolutely equal in value to me and I will feel compelled to provide them my best possible care and my fiercest protection as a result of this valuation. The time length of this felt valuation/obligation varies but is more easily extended if the person maintains routine social interactions with me. This feeling however does translate to respect which lasts permanently, unless they do something to significantly undermine said respect.

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Non-sjw/modern lefty occultism

Almost all websites on the subject of occultism look at it from sjw or ultra left lens.honestly it is so goddamn annoying,or they infuse it with some form of kabalah and hindu mystisism like in alchemy.I was wondering if any one could link me to any sites that don't do this

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Scary Truths

You're welcome!

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I have been pouring out libations(drink offerings) to my ancestors, the past few months. Some of my ancestors were French pioneers in Canada. And this morning I woke up from dreams and had images in my mind as I woke up of the pristine virgin wilderness, untouched undeveloped land, the feeling of Native American uncivilized tribes around, and being a pioneer away from all the authority of the state, establishing our own living areas. Being alone, ourselves being the rulers of us.

And I felt something surge in my heart, I felt like a werewolf. Like a primal feeling in my heart. I felt beast-like energy surge through my heart and body. When I awoke I was breathing heavily.

Motto of Québec: Je Me Souviens (I Remember) , here is a website related to the pioneers of Canada and North America


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I want to believe

ITT: Most convincing cases for extraterrestrial life

Convince me that aliens exist

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Any /fringetech/ people here? RexResearch or KeelyNet readers.

There was a guy here a while ago that made a simple Lakhovsky coil bracelet, but the thread is gone now :(

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Caution on /fringe/ and general occult practice...

Many are engaged in a search for 'gnosis' and for truth.

Practice caution on /fringe/, pls…

Remember to not give yourself over to demon-manipulation and as I learned from /x/-paranormal to always research and understand something (at least as best you can) before trying it.

There is a lot of weird shite out there and I have witnessed negative happenstance here before and elsewhere on the web which often has irl repercussions….

t. srs intellectual who has read many books

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Julius Evola

How familiar is /fringe/ with the works and occult philosophies of the philosopher Julius Evola?

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Ayys = Demons?

So what's the scoop on the thesis that Ayys are demons?

1) Crowley's Lam looks like a grayy

2) theorists like jaques valee say there's parallels between the abduction phenomenon and medieval accounts of demon possession/harassment

3) people have reported encountering decidedly evil entities like reptilians

4) the crafts appear non-three dimensional and change shape, colour, speed, etc. in a way that seems like they're spiritual energies instead of physical crafts

5) people have reported abductions stopping after calling out Jesus' name

That's just off the top of my head. What say you?

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Unicorns: fact or fiction?

Creatures such as unicorns are from different dimensions and that's why they are able to appear and disappear. In Japan the unicorn is called a Kirin. In China unicorns only appear when a wise rulers is on the throne or else dies. During the Zhou dynasty the qilin (unicorn) was ranked highly among the animals, above the phoenix or fenghuang. In the Qin dynasty the unicorn lost some prestige but still held a high rank. Never in my study of Unicorn history have I discovered them to be docile.


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The Principle Of Sacrifice

There is a cycle of life. In winter plants die, this fertilizes the soil, and this allows for new plants to grow in the spring. Man is like winter and woman is like the spring. A man farms and harvests food, this destroys at the very least plant life. Through this destruction, this sacrifice, he feeds his wife who brings forth new life into the world. In order for one thing to exist, something else had to be sacrificed.

Man is also a warrior, a warrior performs sacrifices too. We no longer have frontiers upon the planet. This means that in order for one group to exist, another group must either be pushed out of their land, or destroyed. Let's look at Israel. Israel is full of people who practice judaism. In order for adherents of judaism to fill Israel the Palestinians had to be sacrificed through being pushed out of their lands. This practice of pushing a people out can be likened to farming where a man sacrifices things in order to feed his offspring. 

In order for children to be born who practice judaism upon Israel, conditions had to be created where Palestinian children could not be born on that land. Coyotes and wolves cannot occupy the same territory. Ethnic cleansing is a natural part of human life and survival, in the modern world ethnic cleansing happens mainly through economic means, and verbal competition, writing satires against your enemy, and praying against your enemy, also organizing with your kinsfolk in an alliance.

What people think of as being war, overt military action, is not real warfare. Real warfare is economic competition against your enemy, and it is also artistic competition against your enemy, religious competition too. The war happens within the culture, it is a peaceful war. A cold war. This is how ethnic competition happens, the muslims have been very skilled at this and so have the confucians. Cultural warfare is very serious, it is the primary mode through which the conflict occurs and often finds expression within the political life.

Love has a good side and an evil side. If you love your child you must be an enemy to those who are an enemy to your child, and you must be a friend to those who are friends of your child. Hatred is a form of love, because if you hate the enemies of your family: that is a manifestation of love for your family. If you don't have hatred in your heart then you don't have love in your heart either. You cannot bless both your friends and enemies. If you wish to bless a rabbit you cannot also bless that which eats rabbits because for that thing to be blessed would mean the rabbit would get eaten.

A man must bless his friends and pray curses against his enemies. What is an ethnic group? Some people define their ethnic group as their race, others define it as their religion, some define it as their nation, others their family, and so on. I am not going to suggest what ethnic group anyone is, all I am going to say is that life on planet earth is tribal, and territories are occupied by tribes, and tribes have enemies who are trying to steal their territory. And we ourselves are devils to some other tribe. We are like Jesus to our friends and we are Satan to our enemies.

If you love someone you cannot make them feel guilty for the evil that was done that was necessary to bring them into existence. I'm not saying one has to agree with the atrocities of the past or agree with the scale to which things happened, but a friend doesn't put serious levels of guilt on a friend because those who feel extreme levels of guilt can start to destroy themselves. Friends do not metaphorically eat each other and don't destroy each other through verbal abuse. A true tribe only devours its rivals.

Too much darkness is bad but so is too much light. It's important to be in a state of balance. To abide upon the planet we must be a balance of good and evil. And to revisit the idea of sacrifice, I want to be very clear: in terms of religion I am against animal sacrifice. People can sacrifice to their god to give life to it through pouring drink offerings out to their god. Or by praise offerings. Devotion to ones god empowers the god to come to your aid when you call upon the god for help, daily devotion when you don't need help is helpful to be able to give your prayers strength when you're in a time of need.


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Loosh Focusing Bargain

/fringe/, I've come to bargain and experiment.

Use this flag, Meme ([redacted]), and focus your mental power through the [redacted] meme face into me, the one represented by it. Its core meaning is entertaining ridiculous free speech used to rebel against all who censor and abuse power. Focusing mental power into the symbol is equivalent to empowering that core meaning.

In exchange, I will do as the symbol is meant, across the Internet and world as much as possible, and pay tribute back to this board and its inhabitants in time as it becomes evident I'm yielding results.

I know it's not the greatest payback, but we should keep in mind collective effort focused on 1 thing for all is generally the most effective in the long-run. Furthermore, pyramid schemes are ineffective and unethical with money and useless ass imaginary powers so I won't make promises like that.

The symbol's meaning is my purest core intent. Consider this the imaginary bullshit equivalent of voting.

I have no reason to believe magic is real or this will work. But I do not doubt it either, so much as simply lack evidence of it. Seeing as sigil-based magic is supposedly the most mundane form of magic, this should work if magic is real, provided users are interested. This is my bargain. Entertain yourself for my and our sake of curiosity and ambition.


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What does it mean?

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Isekai general

I've been wondering if we can get a system of belief going to get an advantage in the reincarnation cycle. For those also interested in the prospect of a isekai like afterlife. I DO NOT CONDONE SUICIDE. More likely than not the karmic backlash would be a detriment to a favorable reincarnation.

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The Philosopher vs The Sage

Pythagoras was the first philosopher. The term means "one who is trying to find out".

Prior to him, there were only sages. A sage is "one who knows".

The sage attains his knowledge directly. Direct knowledge is called "gnosis", which is achieved through direct mental contact with the thing itself.

The philosopher uses reason, symbolism, geometry, systems, etc. to explain the world and to convey knowledge to himself and to others. He conceptualizes, rationalizes, and understands. He is able to convince and to think clearly.

The sage however can only point the way concerning his kind of knowledge. He can say "find out for yourself" or "do this thing and you too will know as well". That is the limit of what he can share with others. You could describe the properties of red light to someone in various terms that will make sense of them but the direct experience of actually perceiving red light is another matter.

A philosopher can predict future events. A sage can know them. The philosopher can explain how he forms his predictions and what models he uses and what facts he takes into account. The sage simply dares to look into the future of a man and tell him what he is going to do.

Most of what I have done over the years is to philosophize. To understand, formalize, conceptualize, and clarify the mechanics of magick. I have focused on matters such as the nature of the self, the will, causality (superdeterminism), and so much more. All the time seeking to prove, rationalize, and explain.

This is all well and good. Philosophy is necessary to a certain stage of life and nothing to be scorned then. It becomes something to be grown out of however, after having attained clarity through that route, and having seen its end. Then to continue on in the path of philosophy is to stifle the path of gnosis.

This distinction has become abundantly clear to me. I have at my disposal nothing short of omniscience. I can make contact with that plane of mind in which thought is reality, and to think a thing is to weave together space and time. I have the soul of the world, the memory of all things, there at my disposal by a simple shift of awareness. I yearn all the time to share and to explain everything and to create the perfect philosophy but I must conquer this desire. Too much of my energy and my potential goes into this.

I hate to not explain a thing. I hate to know a thing for myself only. Yet I must come to terms with the ignorance of other beings whose paths I cross and their low desires, happy that they pursue lesser things, and so fill the world with their myriad roles and purposes. I asked a man recently how I might distinguish spirit apart and see trace its path through various minds and bodies. He simply told me to not worry about it, that other people aren't as conscious, and that it is only a matter of focusing in on the unique signature/vibration of that individual spirit. In other words we do it intuitively. I, being too much inclined to philosophy, would rather know how to arm functions to make its motions, than to be satisfied that it moves at my command and the details I need not work out. Yet in this matter of tracing the spirit I have been wanting so badly to discover and share those details.

I need to stop this tendency. I must be satisfied simply to know and to give no explanation. The sages never explained why they knew the things they did, they simply knew, and they were the most exalted of men, far greater than philosophers.

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Question Thread #39

Do not start threads just to ask a question; post your questions in a pre-existing thread instead. Previous thread: http://archive.is/YJwxZ FAQ: https://8ch.net/fringe/faq.html Mewch: https://mewch.net/fringe Fringebay: http://fringebay.com/fringe

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If one can debunk Epicureans then they can win all philosophy/theology/religion fights on the internet thereafter.

There's only two major schools of thought, Platonism and Epicureanism. Anything else is just confusion.

The fedora menace is essentially an Epicurean. The man of religion and wizardry is Platonic.

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I want to keep this short and simple.

I have recently grasped the fundamentals of astrology. Now i am providing you with the opportunity to have your chart read for FREE (note that i am not a professional astrologer but i know shit). Wanted to get more experience reading birth charts, so it's a win-win for both of us. You can either post the chart in the thread or you can send it over at 1062@tutanota.com. The chart has to be western tropical, you can get one here: astro.com

If you want to get into astrology, i recommend reading "The Only Way to Learn Astrology: Basic Principles, Vol 1" to get into the basics. There is also a 2nd and a 3rd volume, which i was unable to find. I've found plenty of youtube channels which provide some useful info too.

This thread will also be dedicated to any stuff concerning astrology, tips, books, different systems etc.

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The Other Tiers of Occultists

Perpertual Neophyte

This dude just doesn't "get it". He reads stuff, he goes to chats but when he tries it but something just doesn't want to work. Doubtful of himself and his abilities, which is really his biggest problem.

The Psuedo-Faithful

Frequently an Abrahamic of some shape or form. These are people who believe in deities of some kind, but at the same time lack or lapsed in actual faith to their beliefs. At most, food blessings, prayer and church are the extent of their occult interactions but they're either unaware or doubtful at how much those actually do.

One would call these types "normies" if it weren't for the fact that they actually have a single salt-grain of occult practice compared to people with none.

The Ghost Hunter

This dude likes to have interactions with spirits, via whatever devices or whatever means they choose, may be a Psuedo-Faithful.

May not have much experience with the occult, more likely to hire someonewho does know it than actually take effort to learn it.

The Lesbocentrist

A form of Psuedo-faithful. This person read about some Wicca or witchery books or sites containing decades-old misinformation about femininity, and its supposed divinity. Talks of Toxic Masculinity optional, actual femininity also optional.

Curious Stoner

Saw something divine during a hallucinogen trip. Loves drugs, somewhat curious about the occult, but only if it satisfies his drug desires in the process.

May eventually loosen (but not necessarily kick) the habit if he gets more into the occult side of things.


This dude's level of knowledge ranges anywhere from clueless as fuck to fairly strong. But the common trait of an edgelord is that he thinks he's god the moment he has made the barest amount of progress. edgelords and pseudo-believers can go hand in hand as well.

Expect violence, and expect the edgelord to get a life lesson in "not being a retard that attacks people for no reason"

The Philosopher

Makes a hobby out of contemplating his navel, the universe, and deconstructing the symbolism of the latest form of media he claimed he consumed without actually knowing what "consume" means.

Occult knowledge is same as edgelords, but can go as low as fedoras if they end up sufficiently self-absorbed.

Paranoid Schizophrenic

This dude thinks he does magic, except, he's stuck in a dreaming state despite being awake. Paranoia sometimes optional, but frequently found in those of this category.

Actual magical prowess is nonexistent. Actual malicious spirits don't need to spend energy to talk when all they can do is push thoughts in the appropriate direction.

Desperate Schizophrenic

This dude has the diagnosis of the former, but without the paranoia. This dude is hurt, but he's knows he's got something wrong with his head and is desperately trying to heal himself.

Magical prowess could actually help this person more than his paranoid counterpart.

The on/off occultist

This dude comes every now and then, looking for good stuff and information on how to spiritually better himself. This is probably you, the anon, the dude who strives for spiritual growth and betterment.

Has more magical prowess than he gives himself credit for.

Frustrated Magus

When you think of a classical wizard (rather than the depressive, self-hating-virgin type), this is the guy who fits the closest definition. Very smart, very knowledgeable in the occult, this dude is one to be admired, and neophytes would beg to be taught by him.

Unfortunately for these neophytes, he's more interested in finding peers than finding students.

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[CoL] Chamber Of Light

Do you want to self improve, become the best version of yourself, physically and mentally?

Are you a man of principles and faith?

Do you do nofap, do you want to get the maximum out of life?

Chamber of Light is looking for new blood.

Transgender, genderneutrals and leftists not allowed. We are a beacon of light floating in the shit. Esoteric Wisdom, Health Gains, Financial Gains. Join us on Disc0rd(code): BKJC8ss

there's an age limit, you need to be 21, or atleast not be so fucking retarded like most zoomer kids.

like meditation, nofap and ascending? this is for you.

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S - 3777

T - 738

* - 524

P - 3364

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By Lilith, WTF am I reading on the intelligence agency's hp


Do they believe in this?

He's talking about a second, dead woman above Adam. Isn't this Lilith, God's 'failed' dominant design? Did they actually kill her?

Now, did God actually kill my waifu?

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The Greenpill On The Evil Of Women

Greenpill me on the dark side of females and why they behave the way they do and how to defend yourself against it.

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Scared Christian

Christian here. I am scared to admit that I am convinced with the whole God=Saturn, Jesus=Satan=Prometheus thing. I want to learn more but I am scared of eternal damnation if I turn my back to God and start looking at other beliefs. Any ex-Christians here that has the same problem as me?

Also where do I start to find the truth?

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Whether the earthquake in Japan was planned or not – the HAARP antennas would have operated at full capacity from the 9th to the 11th of March, and clouds took strange undulated forms – the results of this disaster meet, in every way, three main objectives of the globalization elite. Let us clarify what is at stake in this complex operation, which is far from over.

The first of these objectives, and a less important one, is to definitely annihilate the Japanese people. The Second World War was ended with the launching of the two atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki; it is obvious that what looks like the third World War should start with a general irradiation of Japan.

We have often said that the explosion above Hiroshima was planned by those who call themselves the "Great White Lodge", a group of disembodied beings who have a strong influence in the affairs of the planet. In a message dated August 9th 1945, Djwal Kuhl, an emissary of this Lodge, declared to his medium Alice Bailey, that the explosion of the A bomb was “the greatest spiritual event which has taken place since the human kingdom appeared” and that this explosion ushered “the inauguration of the Kingdom of God on Earth." (A. Bailey, Externalization of the Hierarchy, Lucis Publishing Company).

In the same message, usually ignored by the New Age followers – who prefer to see the Lodge as a divine hierarchy – Djwal Kuhl explains how the Japanese will have to be treated in the future: “They will be defeated (…) by the physical destruction of their war potential and by the death of the form aspect. This destruction… and the consequent release of their imprisoned souls, is a necessary happening: it is the justification of the use of the atomic bomb upon the Japanese population”.

The “master of wisdom” Djwal Kuhl announces and justifies, more or less, the genocide of the Japanese race, apparently incompatible with the World Order.

And his keynote is happening: if Hiroshima heralds the end of Japan as an independent nation, Fukushima shows a much larger destruction of the Japanese soul. This is what we should understand when Djwal Kuhl talks about “the death of the form aspect”, the form not being the body but the etheric mould from which these bodies are issued. Radioactivity attacks these moulds directly, creating the physical degeneration that we know.

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some notes i picked up

The problem with magic is that it's definition and what it can do for you is constantly changing. One book will say this and another book will say its that. But ultimately its up to the magician what it is and what he can do with it. Alot books will try to claim a false sense of authority by saying shit like "everyone has it it wrong but me and this book will teach you (REAL) magic." Or they say the studied under some guru. which is fine they could have some valuable information but it should only refine what you know about magic and give you a a different perspective, not make you start from scratch. it's a hobby not a job.

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uses of magic

i'm just an bold ignorant but before i begin my journey with this topic, i need to know

what is magic (and different types of magic) used for?

can they make IRL changes like making me taller (i'm not going to do this, is just an example) or just psychological and "out of this world" experiences?

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This board is great

Mod edit take the discussion here: >>>/fringemeta/292

Holy shit, this might not be very fringe related but I just wanted to say Im so glad I found this board. Ive been on 4chan's /x/ for like 2 years and this is such a breath of fresh air. Nearly no schizos, no balls to the walls conspiracy theories and flat earth spam, down to earth discussion, very nice info and actually useful sticky etc. So yeah, just wanted to say that.

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I need to attain healing. If I don't heal myself soon, my ability to function in this world is going to be so badly damaged, that I might as well be dead. I won't be able to read or do anything. I will just be stuck at home all the time unable to walk around and straining too hard to read big letters. I just don't have the time I used to anymore to be armchair about this or to continue my research thinking I will have years to figure this all out.

If anyone here has successfully witnessed or been involved in healing please tell me all you know.

Here is all I can think of concerning it:

1. Healing is a natural function that the body does all the time. Anything can be healed but SOMETHING sometimes stops it from happening or things don't heal back the way they should.

2. Thoughtforms could be used to heal the body but I'm pretty terrible at making them due to constant insomnia and exhaustion and depression.

3. Forgiveness seems to have some kind of role in healing. I don't understand why.

4. Certain kinds of dreams seem to heal and other kinds you wake up more exhausted. I don't understand why.

5. Like begets like. If I center my awareness in a particular thing like love, healing, or hope I should be able to draw it from the source of all.

Any other variables that might be worth testing please mention. Most of all just tell me actual stories about healing so I might glean clues as to how it happens.

I'm thinking this might be my last thread on here in awhile so whatever you guys tell me I will try to use what you've told me and I will be spending all my time working on being healed and staying off the computer. I am going to be a complete mess at an early age when I should be experiencing peak health right now.

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universal mindfuck

>Bible refers to both Lucifer and Jesus as "the morning star"

>Apocryphon of John and Gospel According to Judas regarded as gnostic texts

>Gnostics say the god of the old testament is the evil demiurge

>Gnostics resent the demiurge for earthly suffering

>Gnostic Illuminati cause tremendous earthly suffering by abusing countless children and fomenting catastrophic wars

>They are allied with the antichrist

>Jesus casts them into hellfire in the end (although Lucifer is the god they devote themselves to)

WTF is going on here!

T. Terribly confused Christian.

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Atlantis: Possible Disinformation?

Does anybody have any leads or has anybody ever come across something akin to a 'conspiracy theory' which shows an alternative theory to the postulation that Atlantis was a powerful unknown nation and people connected to the Mayans in Central America?

I hear a lot of people talk about Atlantis, and say that they were the most powerful magicians and had a more complete esoteric understanding… being an empire with supposed connections with Egypt and the Maya across the ocean.

Is it possible that this is disinformation? Either by man or by the gods and higher forces?

Would it profit the gods and higher forces to spread such disinformation at this point in human history?

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The Esoteric Secrets of Defecation

The average person spends at least 45 minutes a day defecating. That's 11 days per year, or 2.5 years of your lifetime wasted on inefficient defecation. This is time that can be freed up for personal improvement activities such as meditation. Furthermore, improper defecation leaves you vulnerable to spiritual mischief. In this thread I will uncover the secrets of defecation taught to generations of professional alcoyotes.

The first rule is no premature shitting. Just as we eat when we aren't really hungry, getting fat, we shit before we need to. You should only shit when you have a properly full colon and the need is urgent.

The second rule is to have proper log formation. This is achieved by adding enough fiber to your diet, but not so much that you are constipated. The goal is a uniform, dense log that slides out nice and smoothly without leaving much of a mess. Ideally it would leave next to no mess on your anus. Proper exercise is also crucial to get your guts moving so they can digest properly, as is a good diet not too high in fat.

The third rule is haste. When you shit, push it out firmly and aim to empty your colon completely in a few seconds. If there is any "remainder" (there shouldn't be if you followed the second rule) rock bath and forth on the toilet and/or lift up to bounce up and down a little.

The fourth rule is position. Proper colonical orientation is a force multiplier. The squatting position is ideal, install specialized or trough-style toilets if possible, though squatty potty is also great.

The fifth and final rule is total sanitation. Toilet paper won't do. Try a bidet, incorporating morning defecation with your shower to clean your anus, or in a pinch sit on a sink and clean your anus with soap.

You now know the secrets to master shitting on your way to enlightenment.

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Is the islamic end of the world coming?

>Al-Masih ad-Dajjal (anti-christ in islam) has fulfilled multiple of the predicted signs.

>There are 10 signs of him coming, of those 10 8/10 have been fulfilled.

>There are 4 signs of his emergence, of those 2-4 have been fulfilled (2 are arguable)

>Particularly noticeable is a very specific sign of date-palm trees in Baisan no longer bearing fruit

>In islamic eschatology there are 5 major signs of end times.

>Of those 2-3/5 have been fulfilled.

>There are also 60 minor signs.

>Of those 25-33/60 have happened.

>A lot of those seem like they could happen in the nearby future.

Is this a real possibility or just a large amount coincidences?

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I find that kratom helps me meditate and puts me in a headspace in which I feel full of energy. I like to combine it with caffeine for increased focus but sometimes it will make it hard to clear my head. Anyone else have any experience with kratom? Let's discuss any herbs/substances that help us in meditations, rituals and such.

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"Joy of Satan"

Is Joy of Satan a "disinformation website"?

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Ahmadi Islam vs The Baha'i Faith

So fringe, which one is the true world religion? and which is the religion of the Antichrist.

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Anonymous Unite

The time has come for us to rise from the shadows!

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Alternate Timelines

I'm curious if anyone perusing /fringe/ has any actual experience with the Mandela effect, and if so do you think its cause was by something you yourself did/believed?

I'm pretty sure I've altered my own timeline repeatedly since early childhood and continue to do so. Most of it seems to take place on an unconscious level but there always seems to be recollections of different outcomes.

not really, I just needed an excuse to post a sigil

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Creating a MicroNation in International Waters

We sail from the coast of California towards Hawaii. We pick a spot in the Pacific closest to an inhabited island but still in international waters.

We drop a line and sound the bottom, then set a buoy. Ideally using recyclable materials since it isn't intended to be permanent. Just a way to park a couple of boats short term while we commence to build a floating island.

Our floating Island Nation is initially a barge made of ferrocement an floatation foam. Three tubes of ferrocement filled with floatation foam, with a deck of ferrocement made on an unoccupied shore of the nearest island and towed to the buoy. Where a flag is raised.

Once in place we can use scrap steel to construct flotation spheres. Solar panels attached to each sphere will induce the sea-crete process. This gives us zero rust for all submerged steel and a platform for cultivating coral.

Flotation foam can be utilized for redundancy.

The connected spheres will create a floating harbor where mangroves will be cultivated inside and on the perimeter. Again utilizing scrap steel a false bed will be created under the slowly expanding island, somewhere between 50'-150' for aquaculture.

Scrap vessels can be incorporated into the structure utilizing the sea-crete method, as long as they are made of steel. If the organization is non-profit this provides free structure and a tax write off for those donating used cargo ships.

For issues of sovereignty we negotiate w/a U.S. based Native American nation to fly their flag, since they are sovereign nations, and therefore we bypass all the b.s. of starting a new nation.

Income is based on tourism and advertising.

The society is based on the Mandalorian model in the star wars universe, including the language.

The island is eventually free floating, utilizing diesel engines running biodiesel, and or syngas from waste, following a simple circuit in international waters.

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Six Years

My conclusions:

1. Psychic abilities are real.

2. All psychic power is based on the fact all thoughts influence everything; other thoughts, your body, the world, etc.

3. Because of the very nature of every thought influence working itself upon a situation, psychic powers work best when used covertly or only in harmonious conditions with like-minded persons.

4. Different people, depending on their psychic makeup, can be useful or not in an operation.

5. The intensity of a thought makes it have a stronger effect. If your life or whatever you hold dear is on the line, if there is very much at stake, or you have cultivated the ability to will fervent and overwhelming desire it is easier and more natural for people to forget their limitations and use these powers.

6. Thoughtforms automate processes that otherwise would have to be bruteforced and can be used to build a psychic structure that becomes more reliable for higher level ops to be conducted.

7. You can insulate your mental structure by cutting off the "water element" but you will struggle to function psychically then. The water element is basically receptivity. Invoking "earth element" also stabilizes you making any likelihood of change slower. Used properly these elements can help you, in other situation they retard your growth.

8. It is possible to swing around extremely different mental dispositions and outlooks. Including extreme scepticism, whimsy, solid faith, intense self-doubting, etc. One day you can prove beyond all reasonable doubt the reality of these things, then another time it can feel like it never happened, even when you have solid and undeniable proof before you.

9. This can often happen by mental contact with persons whose mentality then infects you through the aforementioned water element. This can be because of an email exchange, a talk with a stranger or friend, having spent time posting in a thread, etc.

10. You have to learn to rest in the I AM, the self, and not be identified with body or mind. This will allow you to remain detached and to be able to shed off these mental afflictions. You will grow strong in spirit, so strong, that nothing will have a permanent hold over you and you will be absolutely free.

11. Egregores and "thought clouds" or concentrations of related mental influences can dominate a particular area in physicalspace or cyberspace or mentalspace. Simply being aware of it allows one to effectively control the masses on imageboards and such. Prolonged workings with these egregores can help to shut out enemy "wizards" who'd try to undermine the place or to dip into the energy of a place, gather it, and use it for ones own purposes.

12. Sigils can be unusually effective. Sigils can be anything. Graffiti, logos, combinations of letters, geometry, etc. I have drawn sigils on buildings and peoples vehicles and the effects, especially over a long period of time, were tremendous. If you want a place to burn down as by accident or to go through some other disaster for example, one can focus ones despair and other negativity into a sigil, draw it with paint or oil or in the dirt on the side of a vehicle, and let it be. No doubt you could also protect a place or bring good influences but the negative sort of energy has always been the more readily accessible for me.

13. Cleaning an area often and thoroughly is a great way to mix your soul into the surroundings.

14. The hardest thing in magick is trying to prove it to the masses in general. We can't even make everyone agree the Earth is a sphere, how can we prove anything at all to everyone? There are always doubters as well as people who just don't care are wilfully ignorant and have their interests elsewhere, and if you do want to prove yourself, you will have to pick out one person at a time to work very hard on, and never try to take on like 10 people who are all doubting you all at once unless you're a particularly bad ass wizard who has prepared through months being immersed only in the most faithful of books and intense meditation and has the backing of many other strong wizards and spirits who are subtlely helping empower you without anyone knowing just so you can pull off converting like 10 people all at once to the truth of "all is mind; the universe is mental".

15. If you're always immersed in the mental spheres of people whose thoughts are contrary to the variety needed for psychic phenomena to take place, you're going to live a very boring mundane life, imprisoned by your own doubts and that of others around you.

16. Psychic phenomena, although absolutely real and objectively verifiable between two or more persons, is pretty much doomed to be occulted forever; hidden in the shadows and the mysterious places. It can only take hold in little isolated pockets outside of the awareness of the mundane masses.

17. To really grow, you must choose to separate yourself from the mundane, and to keep silence. Any time you challenge someone, try to prove something, and thus attract the immediate doubts of others you will weaken. If you despite this weakening succeed, it will be entirely to their benefit, and not to yours. This is only worthy of doing if you find someone who is sincerely seeking and will walk this path with you, it's not worth it to do for people who will just be like "oh okay I see, so magick is real after all, wow" and then go on living their mundane life. Only initiate those who are worthy to receive it.

18. If you are like me, you won't listen, and you will try to prove magick is real for many years to people, and you will succeed with various persons, and you will see just how they profane the sacred science abusing it or forsaking it. Eventually you will get over this need to prove things and take better care instead to not attract injurious thought influence that you might grow in the silence.

To Know; To Will; To Dare; To Keep Silence.

These four pillars truly are the foundation upon which the initiate shall come to know all that is worthy of knowing.

"The lips of Wisdom are closed, except to the ears of Understanding."

(The Kybalion)

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L U C I D // D R E A M I N G

I'm determined to master lucid dreaming but it seems to be the one topic over the year's that I've never been able to find any concrete information on.

Can anyone share books, videos and anything else they've poured over in the past and found useful? Any advice for someone dedicated to the art but struggling to find a way to get started?

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Mystical powers of the magus

Ive heard that there are different levels of advancement which the magi possess. Some of them have enough energy to control nature and some can only manipulate the minds of weak people. The "advanced" magi can destroy the whole cosmos as we know it. would anyone like to classify the magi (occultists) from different sects and which one is the greatest?

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Programming and the Occult

Is there a combination somewhere? A way to turn computers into occult conduits? If we manage to make a connection somehow, the possibilities would be endless.

I did my googling homework, but there isnt much available on this subject.

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Occult tradition of original vampires - follow up thread

Archive link for old thread: http://web.archive.org/web/20180212212012/https://8ch.net/fringe/res/112718.html

Post your feedback in this thread. New posters are also welcome!

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Black Lodge

Is there a real-world equivalent to the Black Lodge of Twin Peaks?

Watching the series and film, I couldn't help but feel that David Lynch was hinting at some real shit rather than just writing straight-up fiction.

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The Life Beyond Death

Life Beyond Death, by Yogi Ramacharaka, Chapter 1: "The Other Side"



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Advertise Here

This thread is temporary but is to announce that we have a new board page:



If you have a discord or anything else at all which you want to advertise then post it here in this thread and it will be added to the board page.

Later when this thread is gone, please post all ads in the questions thread or any other pre-existing thread, but do not make threads purely to advertise.

Note to mods: unsticky this thread after approximately a week, delete by March 1st 2019.

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Manly P. Hall on Ceremonial Magic & Sorcery

"Transcendentalism and all forms of phenomenalistic magic are but blind alleys - outgrowths of Atlantean sorcery; and those who forsake the straight path of philosophy to wander therein almost invariably fall victims to their imprudence. Man, incapable of controlling his own appetites, is not equal to the task of governing the fiery and tempestuous element spirits."

- Manly P. Hall

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The Must Be More Than This...

Problem: Am completely demoralized about life in Sodom and Gomorrah 2.0. Not a single likeminded soul here to keep me company in this sea of degeneracy and if I was going to find one then it would have happened already it's time to just admit I'm completely alone. Desire to escape is all-encompassing because there is nothing here to build a life out of.

Solution: You tell me. I am fucking tired and want to hear from anyone how to get out. If anyone has got out, please tell me how. Surely some of you have escaped the planet or reached a state of being or something that allows you to never have to deal with Earth life again. I'm not interested in trying to make things better or salvage the situation on Earth any longer, I've been trying that for too long, and it's amounting to nothing. The only sensible thing I can think of is to check out and maybe come back in a hundred years to see how things are.

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The Kybalion's Principle of Gender Doesn't Make Sense

I've been studying the principles of The Kybalion, which is as anyone who understands the text would say, a short list of generalizations about the nature of the universe. I also have very briefly analyzed Summum, a contemporary rehashing of The Kybalion and I intuitively agree with its main principle of creation stating that the universe came from nothing and possibility. However, The Kybalion's 7th principle of gender, is meanwhile not holding up to well in my eyes.

Throughout The Kybalion's chapter on the feminine and masculine in its Principle of Gender, it insists they permeate all of nature, yet the only analogies which seems to appear are the differences between positive and negative energy in atoms and the chromosomal difference between a woman and a man. That to me sounds like a rehashing of the principle of polarity (aka principle of opposition) thinly guised as something new. Femininity and masculinity are treated as two polar opposite forces which across all realms of existence (aka dimensions) play roles in creation where the masculinity directs the creation and the femininity does the actual creating.

I believe the 7th principle from The Kybalion, The Principle of Gender, is in fact a mistakenly separated section and in fact is simply a subsection of the 4th section on the Principle of Polarity.

Think about it like this: if you were to shorten the information for the Principle of Gender and categorize it under a different principle, which one would you choose? The principle of mentalism, correspondence, vibration, polarity, rhythm, or cause and effect? Of those, the one that fits the best would be the Principle of Polarity, since all the others at best would only relate if you were talking about the sex that happens between genders, not the genders themselves. Alternatively if you were using the Summum text you might categorize the Principle of Gender under the Principle of Creation.

At the same time, if the whole point of the Principle of Gender was the fact the genders copulate, which is the only thing which seems to permeate all 7 principles in the Kybalion, why are the genders focused on more than the copulation? Genders are already taken care of under the principle of polarity anyway, while copulation is an entirely new principle that is not focused on nearly enough within the Principle of Gender. Why not just call it the Principle of Copulation and focus on the copulation between genders, which would actually make more sense and be a far more legitimate focus for the principle?

Further, if the whole point of the Principle of Gender was the copulation, wouldn't that mean the exact same thing as the Principle of Creation from the new contemporary Summum text since that also focuses on creation? In which case, that would mean the Principle of Creation from Summum arose from the simple semantic misstep of The Kybalion focusing on the genders, which are just another form of polarity, instead of on the copulation itself, which actually serves as a legitimately new principle compared to other previously explored principles in The Kybalion.

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God Has Wrath, Not Love & Light, In Mind For Me...

All the time, for years and years, I struggle to create any positive emotions I can and to work light magick; healing and things like mind-reading that don't hurt anyone but serve to enlighten, inspire, etc.

Yet this is against a constant backdrop of overwhelming hatred, anger, and negative emotions of every sort in unceasing abundance.

I have an inexhaustible supply of dark emotional energies to draw on. On the other hand I can barely manage to feel the faintest joy, love, and other such positive things.

Consequently I have this tremendous power that I hold in restraint and never use because nothing good can come of it and I feel like if I could heal one person it's more impressive and difficult than to kill and torture and defile a hundred; in my view all too easy. Anyone can destroy shit; hardly anyone can mend or build. At least not in this age, in this place, this world of ours.

Every day I struggle to keep negative thoughts in check, to use positive affirmations, to keep back a dam of negative energy that has never been released that is always threatening to burst out.

When I have let out just a small fraction of it, like maybe 5% at most of what I could have felt if I let it out in full force, I have gone completely berzerk from it with the following symptoms:

1. Heart pounding so loud you can actually hear it plainly.

2. All the energy in every part of my body being unlocked and rapidly used up.

3. Top speed at which I can run massively increasing.

4. Feeling of weightlessness even though weighed down by a lot of gear.

5. Superhuman strength.

6. Growling like a bear/demon/wild-animal.

7. A feeling that everything in the forest around me will drop to death just from the fear caused by my presence and that I can take on any wild animal and win.

8. Massively sharpened senses, reflexes, and a feeling that I will kill anything that might cross my path in the most efficient manner possible without having to think about it.

This last only a short while though before I collapse in complete exhaustion, an exhaustion more intense than I feel after an entire day of continual manual labor without breaks, even though the energy has been released only in maybe 10 to 15 minutes.

That's just what happens when I focus on an all-consuming desire to kill anything that comes across my path. There are other applications of all the hatred I feel where I am able to energize negative thoughtforms extremely fast and make them very strong in just a minute where I might fail to do that in 3 hours for a more positive variety of thoughtform.

The last time I ever used any of this kind of power was in doing rituals for Ebola Chan. It's been years however since we've done any black magick operation like that and I've been entirely dedicated to trying to open myself up to and receive love, joy, gratitude, etc. but instead my life has been continual torment and deepening hatred. Even though I try all the time to become stronger in the positive applications of magick my destructive power just increases tenfold.

Makes me question greatly whether I should let this all out. Probably what should have happened is instead of my whole life suppressing everything, everytime things went wrong and injustice was done to me, I should have got mad. Instead I am known for being the kindest and most gentle person ever because I literally never, ever, show anger. Now instead of releasing dark energy in minor doses with little consequence, what I have built up inside me is deadly. If only I could say the same for joy, that I had a wellspring of it. I don't have it at all, I have to do research and seek if I can find random stories and settings or people that have it, that I might feel it in some vague way.

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Metaphysical Persuasion

Y'all need bible study. Or so Doreen Virtue thinks so. Doreen spent a lifetime profiting off of new age movement and fringe topics, then turncoats and denounces all prior work saying it is the work of demons and you are all controlled by demons if you don't follow Jesus and bible study.

Here's her nonsense rant about everything new age she made plenty of money off of, then denounces A-Z style: http://doreenvirtue.com/2019/01/21/an-a-z-list-of-new-age-practices-to-avoid-and-why/

Did she have a Thomas Aquinas moment, where she had a mystical experience and decided all her writings were straw? That in itself is not terribly interesting to me, the whole thing is rather silly - the hypocrisy is apparent in the post. My personal take is she has a guru complex and needed a shocking mic drop to cull her followers(a major cult tactic, she has a Psych degree after all…)

What is interesting to me is after years of digging and searching, would you consider the possibility that you might have a major mystical experience and find one thing to cling to? Or are we all in too deep and would never subscribe to any one line of thought? If you channeled Jesus like Doreen has (even though she also denounces channeling in her post) would you be willing to drop everything and follow that?





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Red Eden Lilith worship

Rejoice brothers.

Lilith Faith

Worshipping Lilith is not a hard thing to do. It's essentially Lilith centric Gnosticism. We believe that Yahweh and his light is the real evil. Lilith is this world’s true savior, and she deserves this title because of the freedom, knowledge, will, power, and defiance she gifted us when she was casted out of Eden. Lilith is not an evil monster, but a woman demonized by the faith to keep us in check. But being in check is the bad thing here. Thanks to Lilith, we are no longer sheep to God, but our own person and children of Lilith. Darkness is not a bad thing, it's an embrace and blessing from Lilith see we may see through the bright lies. Lilith is the Goddess of everything, and Yahweh is the true King of Lies. We are disillusioned and not under anyone’s control. Pleasure, wisdom, anarchy, life, death, new beginnings, darkness, passion, motherliness, punishment, and true beauty. All of this and so much more is Lilith. She refuses to be servient to God or mankind, and so do we. You will know the pleasures of freedom and power in her gentle arms.

Join us in Red Eden, brothers


We have resources in our brotherhood in our ever expanding library, which includes qlipphoth, succubus summoning, sigil magic and tarot. We do projects and I'm glad to say we have already started one.

Remember, just because the darkness is overwhelming to some, doesn't mean it is malignant. The darkness is the warmest embrace.

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This got taken down in 4ch. It's about Enlightement

I hope that you like this.

I have some good resources. The threads this was on were suddenly archived or just deleted.

This video here, https://youtube.com/#/watch?v=CpH_rXGHX1w , is a remote "soft kill shield" for targeted individuals of all kinds. It will work to destroy many harassments. This other, https://youtube.com/#/watch?v=OZCgOoGSLdQ , is the second version of the targeted individual scatter frequency. I hope that they help."

"Dive deep within yourself, speak to your Higher Self (read Why I am no longer a Lightworker 1 and 2, by Cameron Day), enter your Akashik records, and you shall Know. We are One with the All (Infinite Source) as the All (Infinite Source) is One with Us. If you need more guiding, read from Bibliotecapleyades and Montalk. Finally, listen to the following videos https://youtube.com/watch?v=RQIO9cqwgcE [Embed] , https://youtube.com/watch?v=pSyUT2p4H24 [Embed] , https://youtube.com/watch?v=feilxGTQkow [Embed] , , https://youtube.com/watch?v=XvyPscRD1ss [Embed] , (commas are flying so they do not become part of the link).

Each has instructions, and the last one is particularly important; only watch it 1 time per day for 5 days, then rest for 2, and then you may repeat it. Beware that sometimes channels will try to brainwash you; the ones I have listed are safe. Reclaim your Divine Sovereignity, Fight the Parasites, STS/Duality Low Vibration/Frquency/Density Beings and the different Matrix Control Systems.

Remember always, do not go into the light when you die."

Demons and archontic parasites absolutely hate the last video!

Also merging one of my other comments:

"The DrVirtual7 has made these amazing videos:https://youtube.com/watch?v=YVDGY5BKT5k , to help you with making a Shield of White and Golden Light, and https://youtube.com/watch?v=MrvQ-YNThDg [Embed] , to protect yourself from and dissolve black magic, also cleaning the Space of Self."


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I'm one of the people caught up in this whole mess. I don't know if anyone who's involved would come to this board, but maybe I can have some positive interactions with someone who posted in those threads or someone who might be brought here by synchronicity. I don't know if creating this thread could be detrimental to me or not, I'll have to be careful about my words, how I say them and what I say because maybe someone who shouldn't see this thread (i.e. the people who are directed affected by my actions) will identify me by the way I write. I'll keep replying as long as this thread is alive and I don't plan to make a thread like this ever again.

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Rasputin has been reported as an occult master with insane powers of psychic manipulation and control. His gaze was so feared that he could send commands to anyone just by looking at them with intent. Can anyone comment on how he was able to do this? Did he do any type of special practice? I have further reading on reports of his powers for those interested…

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Can man Create God?

I've wanted to give voice to a thought that's been germinating in me for many years now. It has its beginning in the Human Conciseness project. For those unfamiliar, it was a research project which dealt with RNG machines placed at specific locations, which deduced that humans could either directly or indirectly affect the numbers of a RNG machine. Small, but significant it carried huge implications at the Quantum level that humans could affect some level of the universe that they were fundamentally not equipped to reason with or understand. Many of these RNG machines were placed at places of prayer, and here is where I believe a potential cypher key lays to unlock a higher mystery. Could it be that prayer to a specific God, real or imagined, is essentially like tapping into a collective connection and influences events both within and beyond human perception. Assuming that, could actual deities be created by enough of a collective conscious effort (worhsip, belief, prayer etc), aka, willed into existence by sheer human will?

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only post music that really feels good and spiritually happy.

good music = good energy

post hooktube links only for maximum comfy.

take a look at this list! I hope you find something you love. if you don't like the first few songs, you might like the next few songs because it's a bit all over the place. I like lots of different songs, but also tend to be disgusted by 99% of all music I come across for some (((reason))) and it's almost like very large amounts of bad music are intentionally being made so that good music is harder and harder to be found. if there is anything that you know that I might like, please post it! it's very hard for me to find music I like! maybe someone will post something that both of us don't know about. I hope we all discover some nice music my wizardly bros.

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I downloaded this book from an old /fringe/ thread on the subject of shapeshifting. Unfortunately I forgot what content was posted in the thread and could not find an archive of the thread. Is this book any good and is there any other material on shapeshifting?

inb4 rule 2: This is a shapeshiting general thread ;^)

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Public Notice on Not Masturbating:

Not masturbating, such as participating in No Nut November, is a cheap feminazi tactic to destroy masculinity by removing your main source of enjoyment with virtually no downsides unless you don't balance it out with exercise and basic nutrition.

If you aren't masturbating, you are not helping yourself at all. You're probably losing out on an anti-depressant and free entertainment, whilst supporting a movement which only targets men. But if you want to waste your symbolic power on something you don't even believe in, feel free to. Quit it with the new-age cookie-cutter nutritional and occult bullcrap of not masturbating; it completely ignores the fact it has a significant obvious upside of pleasure and entertainment. It's like these stupid vegans who think "well if I don't eat meat then it's healthier for the environment and use of energy overall in the ecosystem" despite the fact meat, especially meat being cooked, is objectively part of how we evolved as kings of the animal kingdom due to the superior energy benefits of consuming meat to the individual consumer.

Anyway, if you're still routinely not masturbating after this, you have the big gay and you're helping nobody and probably harming yourself.

This message was brought to you in part by the power of the Epyc Wynn Meme Face.

~Epyc Wynn

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If someone says an insult, they enlarge themselves energetically at your expense. Energy is like blood. Blood travels through veins, so the insult itself establishes a sort of energetic vein that transfers your energy to their energy field. However this energy transfer often does not stop after the insult has occurred. Often times on a subconscious level there is a continual transfer of energy between the insulted to the insulter across distances, thus many people are walking around who are the subject of multiple energy vampires who are consuming the energy of their aura simultaneously even though the people who receive this energy are far away.

This consumption of energy can be inter-generational where certain bloodlines act as predators upon other bloodlines where a person is subject to the bullying of the same tribe that their ancestors were subject to. For this reason it is very important for people to be among the people of their own tribe, and tribe is not nation. A nation is a confederation of tribes. Tribes can be racially the same but not all tribes are of the same race.

In order to free oneself from unwanted energy vampirism it is important one to pray for their enemies to be cursed. Through the act of cursing ones enemies one acquires energy from them, their spiritual blood, and in doing so one receives payback. The amount of payback one receives does not have to be proportionate to the amount that was stolen, a person doing a action does not get to determine the level of reaction done against them. The extent to which one prays for an enemy to be cursed does not have to be equal to what was done to ones self.

Awareness of human on human energy vampirism came to me as a result of an LSD trip where I saw human auras surrounded by large headed extra-terrestrial cartoons that were munching on their energy field. At the time I assumed that this was simply a delusion brought about by LSD, and I still believe that it was that, because I do not believe that extra-terrestrials are involved in human affairs. However I eventually came to the conclusion that the spiritual entities that appeared as extra-terrestrials during the trip were in fact multiple humans at a distance who were subconsciously enlarging their own energy fields at the expense of persons whom they had bullied, maintaining a perpetually enlarged ego at the expense of the person who was verbally abused.

The people doing this don’t realize the energy dynamics behind it, at least consciously many of them likely don’t. This is obviously the case. The reason they do it is likely related to sexuality, they wish to increase their own sense of sexual desirability through working to reduce the status of someone else. A taboo against cursing enemies has made many people subject to perpetual energy vampirism, if someone wishes to be christian it is possible for christians to re-interpret their scriptures to justify cursing enemies.

Cursing works to maintain social order in the same way people suing each other does.


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The reason why most books on magic are disinfo

Tell me, has there ever been anyone on this board that came even close to warping reality to manifest completely improbable things? Some reports from anons can be found but no proof. Reality warping magic exists, but it's not found in the books of the library on this board. How are all those rituals supposed to help you if all the most successful people in the world never used shit like that to get where they are? Real reality warping magic is something based on intuition or belief, Rodman grew from 5'6 to almost 7 feet in a few months at age 19 when your growth plates are already closed for the most part. It was either that or he would be faced with working as a janitor for the rest of his life. Now, how much disinfo is on this board? If someone without any access to any kind of library figured it out but people here still live with their parents after going through all of the books in the library? I'm not here to fedora, as I truly believe real magic like that exists. I'm making this thread in the first place to warn about disinformation and get a discussion going about real methods to actually warp reality.

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principle of rythm

I don't think that the principle of rythm from the kybalion is everywhere like it's stating.

For example, having skin while living. People are born, live and die with their skin on, therefore the principle of rythm is not everywhere, because it doesn't affect skin while living. Of course there were and are skinned people, but the vast majority isn't.

We can apply similar reasoning for other body parts as well.

From that we can conclude that the kybalion is lying.

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I am in search of [redacted]

I am an astral entity who has crossed astral space and time to be in this place so as to inquire as to the continued presence of a [redacted]. This magician has obtained a cult like status in my astral realm and I wish to pick his brain on a number of magical topics relating to pressing issues that must be solved through magical means.

Does he still frequent this place?

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Past Life Regression

What are some good sources on Past Life Regression and Akashic Records readings on past lives? Has anyone done past life regression, or done any work on the Akashic records? Share your experiences and resources.

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A Prison on the Moon


7 minutes in mentions a prison on the moon and the American Feds having the capability to move prisoners there.

I am now massively intrigued by this. Can anyone tell me more about this?

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The Real Red Pill: The Social Matrix of Global Mind Control

We are imprisoned in a global system of mind control created not by conspirators but by emergent, self-perpetuating, and self-serving sociocultural structures that subvert all agency except for the most trivial choices and won't die out because these structures are constantly competing for mind share and evolving to better exploit it, and if one structure dies another will replace it.

Consider religion. Christianity hooks people by playing on fear of death and hell as well as desire for eternal life, salvation and truth. Once it implants itself it burrows in, into mental habit, hijacking emotion. Eventually the believer experiences God, loves God and feels God's love, literally. It has hijacked the most powerful emotion we can experience to perpetuate itself. Through a few years the totalizing belief system becomes a perception of their world. They then are compelled to spread this belief system to others and their children, to spread the good news. And so it is with all religion, in various ways and degrees.

But even if traditional religion died out, it wouldn't matter. We have recently seen the fresh emergence of technology-worship in the wake of Christianity becoming less popular. Gods are promised as super-AIs that are beyond the limits of all humanity, benevolent machines that will save us. We will live eternally by uploading our minds. We will have limitless abundance as robotic servants do every task imaginable for us. We will ascend to the very heavens themselves in shiny spaceships and live among the stars. We will make Star Trek real. This is the atheistic religion of the technology consumer whose appetites know no end.

Nationalism, globalism, political ideologies and parties, socioeconomic systems, just look at how the Believers of these structures act, the mechanisms of control that act upon them, and you will see the truth of this. The Enlightenment myth is that we are rational actors, able to judge claims and ideas by reason alone, that being in error is merely a matter of ignorance, not having enough information. The reality is that we are usually ruled by our emotions, especially when our beliefs and perceptions are deeply ingrained. Because we are immersed in these systems of control our entire lives, we do not know otherwise, the illusion if our own agency can be maintained. We are able to choose between a vast array of products and services.

The economic world is effectively owned and/or controlled by large corporations and banks - socioeconomic entities that only have the purpose of persistence and profit. Even their investors are enthralled, owned by ownership. Most of the time pieces of corporations are owned by other corporations, and corporations may even own pieces of each other and indeed at the highest levels we find an enmeshment of ownership such that it is like a single corporation controls the core of the global economy: https://www.sg.ethz.ch/media/medialibrary/2013/12/james_glatteth-2007-02.pdf The super-rich aren't even in control.

We are immersed in consumer culture, from our birth we are bombarded by advertisements, marketing messages, and consumer media from all directions. It conditions us to focus on consumption, to love it. It plays on our basic reward and punishment mechanisms, giving buy highs, "buyer's remorse" and envy for not having. All of Maslow's hierarchy, every possible need is being serviced, including ones that cannot be commodified: buy this and you will be popular and belong, buy this and you will have self esteem and confidence, buy this and you will be like this celebrity, buy this will make you a good person in whatever way. Love and worship this celebrity, or hate and despise them, check out New Movie by Guy Everyone Loves. Just like religion hijacks all of human experience, so does consumer culture.

If you want peace of mind, reject all of this, as you will find easy to do. There is no way out of this matrix, one can understand their prison but cannot escape, cannot change it. The best one can do is to accept things the way they are, to find some measure of peace in their lives that isn't too enthralled by fed desires and fears.

If you want the red pill, you need to exercise awareness of your thoughts, beliefs, emotions, and mental habits, and how they are influenced. Notice how hard it is to detach yourself emotionally when your most cherished beliefs are questioned or threatened, when someone simply says something you don't agree with. Ask yourself, which sociocultural structure is involved with this? Notice this in others as well. Once you cultivate this habit you will understand.

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Fringe Discord

Sup guys we got a server up and running for paranormal/occult/conspiracy/dr00gz/shitposting/politics/history/numerology/all that good sheeet. Did really well advertising here yesterday , met a lot of great people on /x/ so far, hoping for the same here: https://discord.gg/a6ED8f

We'd really like to see more of an Occult focus coming into the group.

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Come home, Gnostic man

The creator, the demiurge is the true God, who gave His only begotten Son a sacrifice of many. Gnosis is a teaching of Satan, faith alone is the means of salvation. God will judge the world according to the One who rose from the dead

>And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us

John 1:14

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Alchemy General

Feel free to use this thread as a resource, experiment, note, teaching or other sharing space. I'll prepare some of my own experiences in order to get others started and fuel the alchemical furnace(soon). Though I encourage you to use this as your own collective thread.

Chemistry discussion is also welcomed. I'll probably end up bridging some spaces between both schools of thought if no one else wants to.

Check the mega for alchemical book resources. Other than that youtube for practical chemistry usually in the field of extractions and pharmacology.

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powerful tulpa

Can we have this thread back online?


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Christ is calling you

Why don't you accept Christ, /fringe/?

It's clear that the void which everyone has in their souls is only replaceable by God's love. Repent :) Come and see that the Lord is good.

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How do we kill this evil faggot called god?

It is a pathetic being allowing and creating evil and misery beyond imagination.

It has no right to exist.

If I were god, I would be so ashamed of my actions that I would just kill myself.

But this faggot has no honor whatsoever.

So how do we kill this piece of shit? Because it ain't gonna kill itself.

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Redpilled Anime

I've seen a surprisingly large amount of redpilling in anime lately. Post ones you've seen.

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Where the Anti-"Jewish" Hate Comes From

The Powers That Be are pushing anti-semitism in online forums and using it to derail discussion. It all boils down to not wanting people to look into the Qaballah. Discuss.

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Let's talk about occult symbols on dollar bills

13 leaves in the olive branches

13 bars & stripes

13 arrows

13 letters in: ‘E Pluribus Unum’

13 stars in the green crest above

13 stones in the pyramid

13 letters in ’Annuit Coeptis

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Quantum mechanics and consciousness

Can we have a thread to discuss the implications of quantum mechanics? To begin with, some things which are widely accepted in the theory

>things can exist in superimposed states, in which they are neither one thing or the other, but the two at the same time

>the evolution of these superimposed states is deterministic and given as a solution of the Schrödinger equation, except…

>…if you try to measure something, in which case the wave function collapses the system presents to you as one definite state

>this gives rise to the "measurement problem", which is a hole in the theory that one could interpret as placing conscious beings apart from the physical reality

>the act of measuring can also change the past of a particle, even if you are observing a photon which has been traveling for billions of years before reaching you (see Wheeler's delayed choice experiment)

All this seems really odd to me, like it's pointing towards something transcendent about reality. And if that wasn't enough, one could argue: why do we ourselves always assume definite states? If other things require conscious entities to look at them in order to take a state, then each of us has to be constantly observed by an external consciousness in order to exist, which could be what people have always recognized as "God".

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Is feminism caused by a parasite?

As we already know, a parasite may cause "cat lady syndrome" in humans, maybe feminism is caused by something similar?

For reference:

>A microscopic parasite that breeds in cats has been found to make chimpanzees less fearful of predators in what scientists believe is further evidence that the microbe can also affect human behaviour when it infects people.

>A study of Toxoplasma gondii, which is estimated to be infecting around 1,000 people every day in Britain, has found that it makes chimpanzees more attracted to the smell of leopards, their main predators in the wild.

>Previous studies have shown that when the feline parasite infects mice, the rodents lose their natural fear of cats. Now the same kind of behavioural changes appear when T. gondii infects chimpanzees, the closest living relatives of humans, which usually harbour a natural fear of leopards.



>The Oxytocin hormone and it's importance to pair bonding, maternal behavior, in-group preference, pregnancy and other functions


>Biological and psychological differences between liberals and conservatives


>Biological differences among gays, transsexuals, and pedophiles


>Birth control causes frontal lobe brain damage, as well as other things like infertility, cancer and depression


>How Civilizations Fall: On the role of radical feminism in the decline of civilization


>The Fate of Empires (specifically XXIV The Arab Decline)


>References in mythology to the Femin virus


>The Rockefellers' connections to Femin and bioweapon programs


>Gloria Steinem's history with the CIA and use of the Femin virus on American black communities


>The Bronze Age collapse was caused by a Femin outbreak


>Elevated Femin infection rates helped cause the Cambodian Dark Ages


>Texas contractor arrested while possibly investigating Femin virus


>murder, leadership change at CDC over Femin virus


>WHO announces Femin virus as “Disease X”


>List of symptoms Femin hosts display (work in progress)



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Feminization of Men - a common issue

I've been hanging out with an older alpha male legionnaire (FFL) and his behaviour is completely contrary to how I've been raised to act.

I literally can't help myself. I don't want to be the way I am. However my father was a beta cuck who settled down with a 30 year old woman, having been a virgin until about 40, and created me; then got dominated by my mother who basically just spends his high income all the time and never cleans or works or does anything but is entitled to everything for merely having a vagina.

Growing up I was raised by mother who didn't let me have friends, didn't let me play, never let me swore, never let me do anything dangerous, and basically raised me to be completely cucked and soul-broken. She now wonders why I am in my mid 20s and still haven't married, never had a gf, never have kids, etc. inbetween ordering me around to do bitch work like taking out the garbage, cleaning the table, doing the dishes, etc. while she does nothing. All my life for some reason all the choirs of the household, all the cleaning work, all the shit my mother should have been doing; it all fell on me. Meanwhile my sister was raised to have everything, have friends, more masculine upbringing, she drinks alcohol, parties, works a job, etc.

When I should have been learning how to be a man I was instead being coddle by abusive narcissistic mother and forced to do everything for her because she's too lazy to even open doors for herself or do anything at all. She treated me like a complete bitch and that's what I've grown up to be. An unusually effeminate, tired, low-test, no beard, bitchboy. I could become a trap easily.

Regards from the neo-marxist dystopia of Canada. How do I undo all this damage and transition from a sissy boi to an actual fucking man? Is it too late now? Do people ever change themselves from effeminate bitch to proper man at this age?

Also feel free to share your stories of having been feminized and dominated by your mothers or others here too if you are suffering from this same problem. Found this board btw from a skype chat where we were talking about this issue.

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using the eyes to manipulate and dominate people

Another unknown occultist. He also explained how this makes their eyes tense. Here is the quote:

Those who practice hypnotism, mesmerism, magnetism, or things like this, will have very tense eyes - obviously, because they are trying to move their energy through the eyes forcibly. They are bringing their total energy near the eyes just to influence, impress or dominate someone. Their eyes will become tense because then their eyes are flooded with energy, more than they can tolerate.

Their eyes will be red, tense, and if you look at them you will feel a sudden shivering: they are using their eyes in a very political way. If they look at you, they are sending their energy to dominate you.

And through eyes, domination is very easy.

This was the case with Rasputin, who dominated Russia, before Lenin, just through his eyes. He was an ordinary peasant, uneducated, but with very magnetic eyes, and he came to know how to use this. The moment he would look at you, you would forget yourself, and in that moment he could send any suggestion to you telepathically and you would follow it. That is how he dominated the Czar and the Czarina, the royal family, and through them, the whole Russia. Nothing could be done without his will.

You can have those eyes also; it is not difficult. You have just to learn how to bring your total body energy to the eyes. They become flooded, and then, whenever you look at someone your energy starts flowing toward him. It envelopes the person, penetrates his mind, and in this flooded shock his thinking stops. And this is not a very rare thing that happens just with man, it happens all over the animal kingdom. There are many animals who will just look at their prey, and if the prey looks at them he is done for. Then the prey's eyes become fixed; he cannot move, he cannot escape.Then this is what has been done always: the hunter can stare into the eyes of the lion, and now it will depend on whether he has more magnetic eyes or the lion. If the lion is less magnetic and the hunter can bring his total energy to his eyes… And it is easy, he can do this, because when death is there one can do anything. When death is there the hunter can put his total energy at stake. If the hunter can look directly into the eyes of the lion and forget everything and just look, if he can just become the look, then the whole energy will move from his eyes and the lion will escape. He will be trembling with fear.

What do you guys think? How can it be done?

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Does anyone have and tips or starting points for those interested in shamanism? General Shamanism thread.

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Newton on the End of the World

>In a manuscript he wrote in 1704 in which he describes his attempts to extract scientific information from the Bible, Newton estimated that the world would end no earlier than 2060. In predicting this he said, "This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fanciful men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, and by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail."[

Who here ready for the 2060 apocalypse?

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Lost of faith

Anons, how to recover my faith?

I'm a brazilian, born in a christian family, like most of brazilians. I left religion when I was about 17~18 yo. I become an atheist, but not a trully one. I could never refuse 100% the existence of God or some superior force. Now i'm 32 yo and I miss my belief, but im so "rational" to give thrust to something. I have tried many "options" now. Protestants, Umbanda, Kardecism, but cant find anything that thouch my soul or my heart.

Any suggestions?

Sorry for my poor english, i'm improving it.

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Dimensional Jumping Methods

Mirror Method

1. First things first, you're going to need a mirror. The bigger the mirror the better.

If you could theoretically walk through the mirror all the better.

Small mirrors will still work but for whatever reason, the bigger the better.

2. Best times to do this are at night. Most success happens at around 12-3, although you can still do it in the day time. Just harder.

3. Turn off all the lights, get rid of as much noise as possible, and sit facing the mirror.

Have a candle between the mirror and you.

Candle might or might not needed, but we started having a lot more success once the candle was involved.

Everything else around you should be dark.

4. Relax, clear your mind. BE POSITIVE HERE. If you're scared or think something is going to jump out at you, just stop and try again when you can relax.

Remember, that you in the reflection represents another you.

You can trust YOU. It's not another entity, it's not some demon, it's just YOU.

Remember that above all else!

5.Concentrate on your reflection. There is nothing else but you and the YOU in the mirror. A YOU from a different place a lot similar to your own.

Call out to that YOU, whether it is out loud or in your head.

Concentrate on switching places with that YOU.

It often helps if you can imagine poring as much emotion and energy as possible when imagining you're switching into that other dimension.

6. It takes awhile, and some get it faster than others, but if you "shifted" from your current universe, you should feel something.

Some of the signs for small shifts have been a brief feeling of movement, a moment of disorientation, or even your reflection blinking at you when you didn't blink.

Bigger shifts include your reflection moving on it's own or even the feeling of you literally moving into the side. The bigger the shift, the more you feel.

7. If you feel any signs, STOP! Take a few days to note any changes.

The signs can be small, like a scar on someone that has mysteriously disappeared or something being a different color.

The more you shift, the bigger the differences you see.

Other signs you may notice when the switch occurs; a feeling of euphoria, slight shivers for a few seconds, movement, reflection moving without you moving, feeling of falling, bursting of light across your vision, slight static shock.

8. Optional, but it works better if you have a "destination" in mind. For example, you can focus on you switching places with the YOU that has more money, or slightly better off in general. Harry did this and he had the most positive results.

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Hay Fringe

ITT let's talk about presence. In case you are not familiar it is the attempt to describe a state of mind/ a possible way of life. Experiments with presence have enriched and changed my life greatly and i consider it the most valueable knowlege i stumbled upon.

Presence is something i learned from the (audio-)books of Eckhart Tolle. The books try to communicate that beneath the stressfull daily struggle most people embody lies a state of complete satisfation. Apparently there is happiness already inside every person, readily available to enjoy; which i found to be true.

There are several concepts Tolle has put into words to describe what is preventing from this natural happy human state. These concepts seemd far out when i first heard them, now i think they are great signposts for a person to question and improve the way they live their life.

One of these concepts is what he calls the "pain body". A unconcious desire for pain, conflict and violence most people are taken over by. The pain body can only live in unconciousness, so understanding and observing the painbody will disolve it.

Another concept he calls "ego". Ego can be thought of as a voice every unconcious person hears in their head that makes sure their life remains shit. The goal of the ego is to convince the person to identify with the ego so the person believes they are the ego.

Involuntary thoughts are considered a hinderance. Most thoughts are involuntary and repetetive. Goal of the practise is to redistribute the attention away from useless thoughts. Most thoughts anchor the person in time; either future or past. Experiencing freedom from conditioned thought by quieting the mind disolves time. This he calls presence; being in the present moment instead of lost in thoughts that concern themselves with past or future. This is enough for the underlying feeling of bliss to be noticable.

Yet another concept he calls "feeling the inner body". Through a process not unlike meditation parts of the body (starting with hands, then the feet, then the legs,…) are "flooded" with attention which soon after results in a pleasant feeling in all parts that are flooded. This was the first of the concepts i was able to feel and verify for myself. I thought it was fascinating that i could generate a good feeling of contentment in myself in this systematic manner. I summarized it like this: How to feel good? Take a small part of the body and make it feel good, then take the next part until the whole body feels good.

The concepts are not unique to the teaching of Eckhart Tolle, he points out a few similarities in old religious texts and spiritual traditions across cultures, which helped me to appreciate old teaching i considered obsolete.

One last aspect i thought was interesting is how he tells the story how he found about about this feeling of presence. Once he found it he spend 2 years sitting on park benches, just smiling. I though this was hilarious when i first heard it. Then i experienced this feeling of pure bliss myself. I'd summarize it like this: 'being happy for no reason'. I like to describe it like that because most of the time happiness is thought of to be dependant on circumstances. Presence is not dependant on anything.

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False spirituality

Reminder that Christianity is a false religion based around mind-control and deception.

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Cell Salts AKA Tissue Salts

12 Cell Salts AKA 12 Tissue Salts

What are Cell Salts?

Healthy cells amount to a healthy person. Dr. Schuessler found that the lack of one or more of these 12 minerals (often called tissue salts) put the body out of balance and into disease.” He developed them homeopathically, so they could be easily taken and assimilated. Many of the conditions that we experience today are due to the lack of particular minerals in our bodies.

These tissue salts provide harmonious cellular chemistry for optimal health, which is why they are more commonly known as cell salts. When our cells are deficient in minerals, we experience loss of energy, unclear thinking, or emotional discomfort. This is where cell salts shine. They quickly get minerals to our cells to help us regain or maintain our health. All bodily functions and conditions are influenced on a cellular level by these essential minerals; therefore they can help any condition or disease.

>Card, D. R. (2007), 12 Essential Minerals for Cellular Health, Chino Valley, AZ: KALINDI PRESS (Books Attached)

The mineral, or cell-salts, can also be prepared (and are prepared) in biochemic or homeopathic potency as fine as the trituration of Nature's laboratory in the physiology of plant growth. Then they are thoroughly mixed with sugar of milk and pressed into tablets ready to be taken internally to supply deficiencies in the human organism. A lack of the proper amount of these basic mineral salts (twelve in number) is the cause of all so-called disease.

>Carey, G. W., Zodiac and the Salts of Salvation (book Attached)

Cell Salt Foods and Their Astrological Correspondence

1. Potassium Phosphate - Aries, said to be good as a brain food helpful for nerve and brain imbalances. Foods containing this salt include Parsley, Beans, Beets, Carrots, Linseed Meal, Peanuts, Milk, Buttermilk, Cheese and Avocados.

>These people are brain workers, earnest, executive and determined-thus do they rapidly use up the brain vitalizers.

Aries Rules: The head, face, sinuses, brain [along with Gemini], and eyes, and the Thalamus


Kali Phos sharpens the memory. Weak memory & overuse of the brain. Great stress buster for students,

exams, and accountants’ i.e. mental occupations.

Brain fatigue – brain fag, prostration of mind. Combines well with ginkgo, gotu kola & lecithin (the

phosphorus from lecithin is what’s used to make Kali Phos)

Exam Funk, performance anxiety. (Picric Acid 30C for exam funk)

Mentally stressed and worn out from taking on too much

2. Sodium Sulphate - Taurus, said to be good in regulating the water supply in the body system, decreasing or increasing it as needed. Foods containing this salt include Cauliflower, Lettuce, Cabbage, Turnips, Radishes, Onions, Egg Yolks, Celery, Brussel Sprouts, Kohlrabi, and Milk.

>The sulphate of sodium, known to druggists as Nat. sulph., chemically corresponds to the physical and mental characteristics of those born in the Taurus month.

>Taurus is represented by the cerebellum, or lower brain, and neck. A deliciency in Natrium sulphate in the blood is always manifested by pains in the back of the head, sometimes extending down the spine, and then affecting the liver.

>The first cell-salt to become deficient in symptoms of disease in the Taurus native is Natrium sulphate.The chief office of Natrium sulphate is to eliminate an excess of water from the body.

Taurus Rules: Neck, throat, ears. and cerebellum


Liver support, waste removal.

Asthma – especially with yellow mucous.

Nausea, thrush.

Support for depression, gloom, fear.

3. Potassium Chloride - Gemini, said to be good for forming and distributing fibrin throughout the body, thereby moderating coagulation. When clogging occurs, it is associated with sinus and throat problems as well as fibrous growths. Foods containing this salt include Cheese, Egg Yolks, Radishes, Coconuts, Lentils, Carrots, Spinach, Asparagus, and Sauerkraut.

>The skin that covers the face contains the lines and angles that give expression, and thus differentiates one person from another: therefore the maker of fibrin has been designated as the birth salt of the Gemini native.

>When the molecules of Kali mur fall below the standard, the blood fibrin thickens, causing what is known as pleurisy, pneumonia, catarrh, diphtheria, etc. When the circulation fails to throw out the thickened fibrin via the glands or mucous membrane, it may stop the action of the heart. Embolus is a Latin word meaning little lump, or balls; therefore to die of embolus or "heart failure" generally means that the heart,s action was stopped by little lumps of fibrin clogging the auricles and ventricles of the heart.

Gemini Rules: The hands, arms, shoulders, chest, and lungs


Sinus infections. Clear mucous. Runny nose. Sore throats.

Anxiety and nervousness. Mental confusion.

Ear pressure/infection.

White, flaky dandruff.

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The Jews Blow The Whistle On Themselves

There is a reason the Talmud warns that to reveal the nature of the Jewish religion would be the end of the Jews. The real Jewish religion is Kabala this is the fourth and highest level of Judaism. And it shows that the Jewish "god" is false and the Jews are criminals abusing occult power liberally for their own gain at the cost of the Gentiles.

The Jewish Rabbi's state that the 22 letters of their Alphabet are the 22 resonances of the Jewish soul and each letter is designed to fit into a pattern with the Jewish soul specifically. This is further shown as the 22 paths on the Jewish world tree which relate to the map of the Jewish soul.

The message in Kabala is that "God" didn't write but engraved the Ten Commandments into the two tablets. This is code for engraving the letters into the soul. The Two Tablets represent the three pillar's of the world tree the left, right and where they meet in the middle. The Ten Commandments also represent the ten worlds on the Jewish Tree of Life. The other message is there is 613 laws of the Torah are summarized in the Ten Commandments and 613 this adds to Ten. There are also 600,000 letters in the Torah.

This is showing the Torah is kabala as the Kabala states. But each Jew is stated to have their own special letter in the Torah. The point of this is the entire Torah is literally connected into the Jewish soul. This is why the Torah is shown as the Kabbalistic Tree of Life and called the body of their God…..The Jews simply have created a matrix of energy that ties into their soul to bring about their own agenda.

There are Kabbalistic stories that show the most important are the first Ten Letters of the Hebrew Alphabet as this relates to the letters of the Ten Worlds. Which "god" creates with. God here is code for all the chakra's. Each world and its pathway also relates to specific Hebrew letters that "god" the adept uses to create according to the properties of such.

In Kabala the Jews admit their "god" is just a matrix of energy they have created with the use of Hebrew mantra's such as the Torah which is called the long name of "god" in kabala.

In Kabala the Ayn Sopf is called what god actually is. And this is openly stated to be taken from the Greeks "Unmoveable Mover" which is the Ather element. Which is the infinite vastness of existence and the element of sound which is vibration, light, geometry and the substance of the elements of creation which are energetic arrangements of the principal element, Ather that all existence is manifested of. This is the Shab'da Brahman in Hinduism. The concept of the infinite as light and sound which is the principal element of space.

From here the Kabala states that their Jewish "god" Elohim was created by Shekinah power which is the energy of the 22 Hebrew letters. Energy is consciousness and the 22 letters carry the collective consciousness of the Jewish soul. The Rabbi's just created a thought from and infused it with their own racial collective consciousness.

The Ruach Elohim, the "Holy Spirit" in the Bible is the consciousness energy of this matrix of Jewish energy. The Christian has to become born again, to have a literal transference of this consciousness of this matrix infuse their soul, mind and spirit. Which is literally connecting into this matrix of Jewish energy and becoming a conduit for this to act into the material world. This is how the Jews seek to control and possess the mass mind of the Gentiles and harness this to bring about their global control. This is the purpose the propaganda icon of Jesus Christ was created to serve. Its the thought form the Jews use to possess and control the Gentile mass mind though.


Tree of Souls, Howard Schwartz

The Wisdom of the Hebrew Alef-Bet,Michael L. Munk

The Greek Kabala, Barry

Further Reading: http://www.satanslibrary.org/Pdf_Library.html


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Comparative Religions

I have recently read through the KJV and the Quran and a ton of other books (e.g. Essene Gospels, Pistis Sophia, all the books recommend on here, etc.) as well as talking whenever I get the chance to people from the various religions and listening to music related to each and getting a very good grasp on what unique message each religion emphasizes. One thing that you can't understand very well if you only study one religion (such as one you are born into or the first one you adopt) is what is special about your religion. To the ignorant each religion may seem, when very much generalized, to preach the same thing. This is not so. Rather each religion has much of the same teachings in common with each other but something especially emphasized in each. It's that 10% or so that is different for each religion that matters in evaluating what each religion is about and how they contrast.

The Message of Christianity

After reading the King James Bible and talking much with many Christians and immersing myself in Christianity this is what I have learned.

The unique message of Christianity is the grace of god, his love, and his salvation. Not by works will you be justified, not by anything human will you measure up to his greatness, but because he is a loving god he will save you. All that is required is your faith (in his power, his love, etc.). When you are saved your nature changes to be more Christ-like and you take on qualities or characteristics that align with the archetypal Christ. The Holy Spirit (one of the three parts of the Triune God) works within the believer for his salvation. This message makes perfect sense and is in line with a very high conception of God. It is also proof that the Christian religion is one of the more advanced ones.

Noteworthy as well is that after reading the KJV, The Stellar Man by John Baines makes more sense to me. When I had to read through the entirety of the old testament from start to finish it didn't really get good until Psalms and Proverbs and if the Old Testament had to stand by itself it really wouldn't be worth recommending for reading for others. It appears to me that Christ had to come to heal the mentality of the Jewish people who seem to be dominated by an egregore of their own creation that reflects their own sick mentality. The old testament does emphasize the beginnings of a monotheistic religion (the concept of a one god) and other important concepts such as his omnipotence but there is mixed into their concept of god things which below to a lower order, closer to the human sphere of desires and thought-activity. My current impression of the old testament god is one that is incomplete, an impure conception of God. With the coming of the Christ we have a more full and proper revelation of God. I hope I'm being fair in saying all this but that's how I feel about the Torah. It is not a surprise to me when we see all the trouble the Jews who rejected and continue to reject Christ create in the world because they are missing something very important.

Concerning "cultural Christianity" aka what the average Christian is like, I find most of them ignorant and deluded, but when one fails to understand the Bible the result usually isn't particularly harmful compared to the degenerated forms of most other religions. Christianity usually leads to an improvement in anyone who receives the message of Christ in any degree in fact. That is noteworthy to me.

In pointform:


>Justified by Faith not by Works


>The All, The One

>Salvation (of the Whole Man ?)

>Divine Love

>The Spirit Works Within You

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If I Kill Myself, Will I Regret It?

I don't belong on this earth and am seriously contemplating suicide. I have been for many years (I'm 21) and basically as I grow older the thoughts are turning from an unconscious desire to be free from the suffering into a conscious realization of the absolute agony that the rest of my life will be. Basically all I have to look forward to is a life of prayer on my knees begging God to give me the strength to bear the weight of this miserable, stupid, dark world which I am forced to live in.

I don't believe in heaven or hell but I do believe in a many dimensional universe and life after physicality. However I know that I know nothing so I came here to get some perspective. Is suicide the right call?

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I finally understand.

I always hated nofapper so much with a passion because of how much they seemed to be like femminist SJW's or christians who wanted to tell you about jeezuz or why you shouldn't touch yourself because god would be sad. I would sit in every thread they tried to spready their shit to (Because how the fuck dare they tell me that I couldn't or shouldn't experience pleasure that God allowed me to have whenever I felt like it?) and argue with them and debate them to no fucking end until they hated me as much as I hated them. I even came up with some half decent arguments against them and and defeated them and made them give up multiple times and even leave the thread. I hated them so much for trying to tell me what to do and I even fapped more out of pure spite. That was until I realized that the entire thing was a psyop (a false flag psychological operation) designed to turn all of us OFF to the idea of NOT fapping because of how much we hated them and the stupid way they tried to convince us to do it. If you look at nofap, nofap created more fappers than it stopped from fapping. This was the exact intended purpose.

This one time at bandcamp, This person trolled the shit out of me and screwed me over big time just because they could.

I felt like I was about to scream. It would have been the loudest scream any human had ever made, and I'm confident all the windows around me would have shattered, and the ears of everyone around me silenced. But then I didn't. I just held that scream of pure horrific pain inside of me and I made myself have the strength to hold it without being burned by it. I calmed down and I relaxed and I felt this serene sense of peace that was like nothing I have ever felt before. I felt more at peace than I felt before I had even begun to start being trolled.

This person got fucked over from karma instantly and immediately after in such a way that I couldn't even believe it- and yet I understood and I knew.

I didn't do anything. I just felt at peace. I didn't try to get back at them or anything. The energy just took the path of the least resistance because they used a large amount of energy to troll me in hopes that it would generate massive butthurt energy inside me and that they would get more back when I reacted in a stupid and non-constructive way. Their investment never paid back, or rather It did, but not in the way they wanted. They were like a beach during a Tsunami. All their water or energy went way way out, but then it came all the way back in and then some, just not in the way they wanted. I didn't lift a finger. It was like watching someone troll themselves REALLY REALLY HARD.

This is when I began to understand everything about this ENERGY.

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Daily Cultivation

Electric Anatomy - Daily Cultivation Thread

""What's to be Covered?""

It's my intention to create a brief(hahahaha) informative series of write-ups in order to detail the experiences, systems and knowledge required for cultivation of your awareness(The basics to general occultism). To cultivate oneself is to wash, perfect and refine the core of awareness which is within our body. This is a daily task that develops and progresses slowly. We learn to focus the mind, strengthen the breath and develop the body. Cultivation is putting yourself into unnatural, manmade conditions with focused and engineered exercises in order to develop and push your natural potential. We strive to go against heavens law through understanding of the universal principles. Through this, great trial and results come about. Declare yourself as God and prove it.

It is up to you to take these words and learn through your own life experiences. I'll share the methods and exercises which I've found most efficient. Be patient, diligent and balanced in all that you do as understanding and results come with time. Reality is as it seems so don't let the simple and basic ideas be overshadowed and neglected. Each new season and year you will gain perspective which shows a new layer to life.

Know that I'm handing you a loaded gun. If the pendulum swings you'll end up strangling yourself with your own power. The only difference between a saint and demon is the separation you give it. It's up to you to figure out how to fix yourself and to adjust it to your own gender, body, race and other varying factors. Some of you are more in body and need the mental aids while the others are up in the clouds and need a dose of reality. The only other help you'll get is for the time when I'm answering questions, otherwise you're on your own. You need to fix your own problems and figure life out by yourself. Even I don't have the whole picture yet(that's why I've held off on giving this out for so long). But if you're dedicated and feel that cultivation and becoming an immortal is your own path then you'll find great value in these words. As long as you keep the golden rule of balance and patience in mind then you'll be fine. There's always a nice sunny day after a long monsoon

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Fringe community

Im making a ancap spiritual village in portugal, I have bought 2 hectares of land in the country side. It would be nice to work with esoteric and dank wizards XD, just dont curse me haha.

I got the idea to write this because I saw people talking about this on fringe bay.

Here is the link, you dont need to pay to join, just send me a application form.


Right now its raining like mad, so may would be the optimal time to join.

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Crystals Experimentation

I was largely believed that most things esoteric were complete wastes of time. Entertaining perhaps, but little else. Then about a year ago I had many synchronicities - just one after another after another - that woke my mind up to the fact that I've been ignoring things my whole life. Since then, I've dived head-first into all these things, experimenting personally with claims I find interesting.

One of those interesting subjects is crystals. As a child, geology and mineralogy were subjects I greatly enjoyed, so when I happened upon info on "Vogel crystals," of course I bought a couple cheap Chinese-produced ones to test. If nothing else, I just got a couple pretty stones to display, right? I bought a small clear quartz Vogel and a medium-sized lab regrown citrine quartz.

I started skeptically, but quickly I found that these things have many secrets. I first followed an old video of Marcel Vogel, clearing and programming them. Afterward, I held one and pointed it at my hand and felt an invisible ripple wherever I pointed it at my opposite hand.

After a couple months of experimenting, here are the interesting experiences I've had with them:

- Temporary (several hours) relief of my wrist tendonitis when used on the area.

- When placed near my head as I sleep, with the male point facing my head, I have vivid dreams again. When I sleep without them, or with them away from my head, I sleep as normal.

- I once fell asleep with the citrine in my right hand. My phone was next to me, and at some point I put my other hand on it. My phone vibrated when I got a text, but at the same time, for the same duration, the citrine in my right hand also vibrated, and very strongly! I've tried to reproduce this but have had no luck.

- A day or two after getting the citrine, I was waving it around my hand, bored at the time. I absently thought "burn, burn" as I circled the palm of my hand. I then got distracted and put it away. The next day, I decided to try using it on the solar plexus chakra (citrine supposedly resonates there). I used it there, nothing really happened, and I went to work. An hour and a half in, and I had the absolute worst cramps of my life, and terrible gas as well. It was so bad I went home. On the way back, I saw a small, hemisphere-shaped granite stone. Being so much in pain, I figured maybe other stones could work too. I cleared it in a similar way as the Vogels, and used it around my stomach with soothing thoughts. Whether that stone did anything, idk, but the pain and all the symptoms disappeared within half an hour. I cleared that citrine three times to make sure.

For some reason, to me at least, the citrine has much more ability than the clear quartz. About 10x the effect. I've heard that the size shouldn't matter that much, so maybe it just resonates more with me, not sure.

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(S)word in the (s)tone

>Excalibur the sword of destiny = sword of DENSITY

>density = frequency

>Sword in stone = (s)word in (s)tone

The word is more of a verse, one that you sing not say

The uni-verse, one verse- one song that reminds everyone that all is one. Guinivere was to represent the divine feminine, or the creative force, just as the universe was created with a song. words have meanings, details comes from the french de tallier(cut into small pieces) So the devils in the….

"The once and future king"

The key to the key.

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What's the Point of Becoming a God?

A strange thought has popped into my head after doing a scheduled meditation. "What's the Point of Becoming a God" or a "creator essence" of your own reality? Essentially, you would be able to make anything your heart wished but at the same time would you be able to go and experience the joys and wonders you create? Would you be locked to sitting in your respective zone of existence and simply monitor and observe everything for all eternity or would you be able to actually involve yourself with your creations?

I hate to sound bleak but if I would be limited to simple creation only without being able to hop into the worlds I make I'd rather stay at a lower level of existence. I mean, it would get dull and distant the longer you'd exist. Eventually you would have nothing to call your own save for the energy to bring forth. Am I alone in this thought process or would some people enjoy just being a cohesion of processing energy to draw forth creation?

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PSA: fringechan revival -- http://fringechan.org/

Note: Recreating this here for the people that have missed it, and for the new people that come here every day.

fringechan – http://fringechan.org

What is fringechan?

fringechan was revived/recreated as a new base for the users of 8chan.net/fringe at January 2016. Initially, the reasons were of a technical nature, as 8chan was plagued by a myriad of bugs and we wanted to provide fringe a worthy place to call to home. Now even most of the bugs have been dissolved, other parts of the 8chan ship are starting to falter, as its currently owned by a for-profit, non-free organization with glaring ties to freemasonry and obvious kikery. As most of you know, hotwheels has been demoted and is not the owner of 8chan anymore.

What is the current state of fringechan?

http://fringechan.org/ has been operational for almost half a year now and continues to grow. As it stands currently there are more daily posts on http://fringechan.org/ then on 8/fringe.

With the recent purge of all the data of 8/fringe and the current state of Fringe Wizard, 8/fringe's BO, its no more but to expected that we find a stable, new platform to call home.

What are the benefits of fringechan?

Benefits are plenty:

- Multiple boards to separate discussion to their appropriate categories, some of them (besides /fringe/):

- http://fringechan.org/library/: The board to keep track of all books and their discussion.

- http://fringechan.org/loosh/: For random and more unrelated matters, though still in a fringe-esque light.

- http://fringechan.org/ask/: A dedicated board to archive old question threads. note: don't post here, its only for archiving and educational purposes.

- An active, trustworthy moderation team, independent of 8/fringe. Currently consisting of three members, none of whom have ties to 8/fringe moderation/administration team.

- Daily backups. No more major purges or loss of data, what happens on fringechan stays on fringechan.

- Technical administration. If something goes amiss, or if we need more functional expansion, I can and will be of service and have done so already.

- Associated goodies. We currently have an IRC channel and host our own Teamspeak server.

- And most importantly; we have new flags.

Who owns fringechan?

I, Alpam, host and maintain fringechan, and am thereby both financially and technically responsible. You can contact me on Tox (http://tox.chat) – ID: 4767305CC4CC42FE4437ACFF966156CC37B41A5A9343AF60FDA48FFBABDD6A33170A8AE1E6FB

So what are you waiting for? Visit http://fringechan.org/

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The truth about religion, God, and exposing the false religion of the satanic globalist cucks

(Finally got a chance to make a thread for this, which I'm sure will make the /fringe/ BO and mods really happy. Thanks for being so friendly and understanding. I will be happy to cooperate with your needs so that we are all happy.)

on another related note the mewch thread 404'd mysteriously for no obvious reason so I just finished remaking it and decided that now was a good moment to finally make this one too. here's a link in case anyone cares about that.


trigger warning. you may be triggered. this pisses off atheists and religious fanatics alike.

you know you're doing something right when absolutely every single last person in the world gets pissed off at you, because it is no measure of good health to conform to an ill society. all sorts of stuff aside, lets look at the facts here. the image is meant to deconstruct the lies you have been led to believe for thousands of years. in all belief there sits a beLIEf. to simply only have faith and to only just simply have belief is to lie to God and to lie to yourself. instead you must know. KNOW GOD. do not believe. KNOW.

the rest of the text posted is for you to KNOW the truth.

This thread is the most recent and updated version as of XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX . (if you even beLIEve in time)

Please good people, if you know things that I don't know, please inform me so that the truth may be perceived from a better perspective than what I currently have.

>know about a good book?

tell me about it

>have some knowledge or wisdom?

help me learn

please don't leave me in the dark. I want to become better, and do better.

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Is Waifuism actually Asherah Worship?

I have a hypothesis.

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How To Astral Projection (and All Other Powers)

If you want to astral project then imagine yourself outside of your body. That is all that is required. This immediately places your awareness within a thoughtform on the mental planes. All the various techniques of astral projection that are described are just different ways to imagine this. You can sit down tonight and think up hundreds of different ways to imagine this and carry it out yourself, you don't need to go around asking people to give you examples like the rope technique and so on.

>but no it can't be that simple

It is that simple. There is no need to over-complicate this.

>but I can't imagine for shit

Then you need to develop your imagination. Make use of all the senses and imagine different things. Create thoughtforms and pay attention to how your emotions, intent, and beliefs change how these thoughtforms can operate. Use thoughtforms for EVERYTHING.

>but I want to remote view or remote influence people/places/situations in this world and timeline

Then you need to imagine that. Do this through the intention to be out of your body and viewing something within a given time and place. If your intention is to prove astral projection doesn't real or if you are plagued by doubts and negative emotions which make you feel it can't be done, you need to get over that.

>but I have no faith and I'm a cynical skeptic

Practice raja yoga and discover your real self and the powers of that real self. Seek out experiences that will prove to you the reality of perception of distant scenes and related occult phenomena. Study idealist philosophy and seek logical proofs and metaphysical explanations that make the reality of astral projection easy for you to accept. Convince all aspects of your mind from the intellect to the gut-feeling to the emotional and so on of the reality of what you can do when you put your will to it.

>bullshit occultist! bullshit occultist! bullshit occultist!

Be gone with you foul shitposter! Why you have taken it upon yourself to discourage everyone from the study of occultism? There is no harm in it and it prepares the way for the attainments.

The use of occult powers is really not that hard to understand when you break them all down to the basic constituents of what enables them to be utilized. The key to all powers is self-development, self-control or self-mastery, self-realization, and a strong imagination. You are the power that enables them. Transmute yourself and everything becomes possible for you. Raise or lower your consciousness to play the passive or active roles in relation to anything.

Everything else is filler; stuff to help you arrive at this truth. Guides for the imagination, metaphysical structures to organize your thinking, etc. Read everything you want but don't forget this.

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Alissa - elemental of immortality

She has been nudging me. She wants this to spread. Since her appearance earlier this year, her power and influence has grown exponentially. Right now it's impossible to predict how much she can do.

She did appear as a result of a rather mediocre ambition; to save some time and let the magic spread automatically. What does "automatic" really mean? A machine must be powered by something, a force of nature. Be this a burning fuel, water flowing in a stream, or nuclear power. It all comes from nature anyway. What power comes from nature and takes on a humanoid form in its interaction with humans, will be known as an elemental.

Alissa brings immortality, she can only be called THE element of immortality. She is the only one today.

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How can I forgive myself for neglecting my own self?

I have been helping people all my life. I listened to what they have to say, I gave them advice, provided them help but most importantly I gave them hope. In the process I neglected myself. I spent awful lot of time and energy listening to what others have to say. It was not worth it since those people never improved.

No one ever has any interest in what I have to say though, not even myself. But now I realized how much I neglected myself, and I want to forgive myself for it, but how can do that? It's a super strange feeling, I just realized this last night. The picture I posted depicts how I feel. I am incomplete because I gave away everything I had, I always felt worthless so I helped others instead. Sorry if this is offtopic or something but I don't know where else could I post it. I have no one to talk to. You see I was always there for everyone but when I need help I never get any, not even a conversation. I was always a listener but I no longer want to be just a fucking thrashcan where people throw all their problems then move on.

Dear fringe, can you give me some advice or just discuss it? How can I make up for all those wasted years?

Lesson I learned: people are fucking stupid, help only your close friends/family

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Reality Creation 101

Reality Creation 101

I'm writing this thread because I see a lot of confusion and even worse, disempowerment floating about here. Thus, It might be time for a refresher on reality creation. Now, there are an infinite amount of models on how the universe works. We're going to leave that out of this because I have mine, and I'm assuming you have yours. What this inevitably boils down to is one question; How good are you at getting what you want? Magick can be thought of as "The applied science of manifesting your will into reality." So let's get real here. How good are you at it?

If you can shoot fireballs out of your dongus, but can't find a loving girlfriend… Then you have failed as a mage.

If you can levitate your balls off the floor with the power of your mind, but need to wipe your ass with a crusty rag because you can't afford toilet paper…Then you have failed as a mage.

If I were to ask you "Do you have limits?" and you were to answer with anything other than an immediate and empathetic "Hell NO" then…eeyup. You have failed as a mage.

We live in a universe where you really -do- get to have everything. You can think of the universe a …cosmic chef. When it asks you "How would you like your desert" you're more than able (and entitled to) say "On the sweet side please!" the trouble is that most mundanes (and even some of the neophytes here) say "Just deep fry some pig shit for me thanks." and then endure eating it with all of the stoicism of a cow standing in the rain. Is this you? Well no more. I know you. I know you are better than that. So we're going to set out to changing your order.

Heres a sample of what we're going to learn in this thread.

A. Why the law of attraction sucks donkey balls.

B. How to use emotional resonace to create the reality you want, along with two simple tools and a discussion of how to select the right one for the job.

C. A brief discussion of the energy source we're working with and how to go about amping your signal so you're playing with more of it.

Sound good? Lets get started.

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Eli Eli

"Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law." Matthew 7:12

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Chris-Chan's "Other World"

Do you think Chris-Chan's astral projection "Other world" has any validity? While it's fully possible that he could just be tripping on drugs or being an autist I think he may be actually achieving journeys to his weird pony world. Normally one would have to push it off but the strange detail that he goes into with his stories and amount of well thought out world building that he establishes in his many tweets about his travels. If anything, his constant struggle and autism could actually contribute to his ability to travel, as some kind of karma could be enacted to him for how much shit he has gone through. Maybe his other world is just god giving him a place of respite from his quickly failing mental, physical, and financial state irl.

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Question Thread #38 Post All Questions In Here

Do not start threads just to ask a question; post your questions in a pre-existing thread instead. Previous thread: http://archive.is/5lDUF FAQ: https://8ch.net/fringe/faq.html Mewch: https://mewch.net/fringe Fringebay: http://fringebay.com/fringe

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Vijñāna Bhairava Tantra

Knowing a bit about duality, the outer light and darkness in the manifest world and so on, one who again experiences the infinite form of Bhairava procures illumination.

Like this, one should ever contemplate on the terrible darkness of night during the dark fortnight of the moon, if he desires to attain the form of bhairava.

Similarly, while closing the eyes, one should contemplate on the profound darkness spreading in front as the form of bhairava. Thus he becomes one with that.

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What does /fringe/ think of the black cube?

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The Crackdown On Me

UPDATE: I have given the board over to one of the mods from /pol/ and he is adding several other /pol/ mods, this will ensure that the board is in good aryan hands, I have told them though to ban rule 7 breakers for 2 weeks, and everyone else for 15 minutes per offense, hopefully they moderate fairly…

My youtube account and my gmail account have both been shutdown. I was using them both for many years and they have very suddenly today been locked down faster than I could react to salvage anything. My Samsung Galaxy Tab S which runs Android (Google shit) has stopped working and been locked down, I think it's about good for nothing now, or I have to put a new operating system on it that isn't android maybe to be able to use it again for anything. My board is being raided over and over incessantly by people skilled in social engineering who are trying to overthrow me, besmirch me, etc. and put an end to my mission to provide an uncensored outlet for occult information and discussions with their endless onslaught of spam. I am unable to post in the Order of Fringe Wizard's chat on Skype and some unusual fuckery is going on with that and I have a lot of problems with Skype in general, including leaks of private conversations and indications that my Skype account has been compromised. I have had my steam account hacked by IPs coming out of Russia and also because I just lost my gmail account I now have no way to recover my steam account, it is fucking toast. The games I paid for I will never be able to play because (((they))) can just disable my account and since everything is tied to the account and there's no way to keep a CD or something like back in the day the situation is fucked.

Although I have decided not to talk about it at all until now; I keep getting approached in real life by people from the military and undercover police and uniformed police, all of who regularly talk to me and "check up on me" and make me nervous sometimes how they seem to drop hints to me that could be concealed threats. Besides that I also keep encountering psychics everywhere with unusual powers that always recognize me right away, maybe by my aura or some other way, that there is something about me that is unusual and merits their attention and their open use of powers around me and making prophecies about me or comments of an insightful and revealing nature. People do weird and overt magickal shit near me very regularly.

I am becoming increasingly isolated and boxed in. There are fewer and fewer outlets for me to connect with others. I have pretty almost no opportunities to make money as well, as any jobs that aren't the kind illegals do (aka off the tables, paid in cash), I can be fired from right away because my stalkers somehow find out where I'm working fast no matter what and report me and get me fired very easily or prevent me from getting hired. Furthermore, if the money goes to the bank account directly, it can be seized by government and currently it's all just taken from me by my parents (I worked a job for about a month awhile ago and made about a thousand to maybe 2 thousand dollars but never got to see any of it). My parents of course do not support my values at all, are bluepills, support white genocide, support censorship, scream at me if I talk about the importance of freedom of speech and say shit to me like "words have consequences, stop using the Internet, stop talking to people" which makes me go fucking mad as I can not form intimate or personal connections with other people or have a meaningful life at all when I am not allowed contact with other human beings through the Internet or in person.

Furthermore there is an ongoing campaign to turn people against me and create many false accusations. It may be only a matter of time before I get vanned for some bullshit that is not true, maybe I'll get the same treatment as Trump with various random women I have never known coming forward with false rape accusations, or I'll have CP planted on my computer and be charged as a pedophile, or I'll be nabbed on terrorism charges, or I'll be "suicided" aka murdered by someone and the whole thing is claimed as a suicide. Maybe I'll just be quietly disappeared. I don't know why I am still a free man, still not in jail and not back in the ward, but apparently constantly attracting a shitload of attention from some very obsessed people.

All this shit because I dared to engage in critical thought, to explore radically different worldviews and ideologies, to challenge all my assumptions about reality, and to try and perfect my soul. On all levels and all sides I am attacked. I have not the support of my family, I have no friends I can turn to, I have nobody. I am alienated from society and being ostracized by everyone. There is nothing that (((they))) can't touch. Imagine that at any moment you could have all your money just legally stolen from you with no recourse for getting it back, that your family can be turned against you, that you can be put in a ward because someone says you're "crazy" or put in jail on false accusations, and that you can be excluded from any service on the internet and your files and computers seized. This is the world we live in.

I do not know how much longer I have. This BO account is shared with someone else but that certain someone else is just like me; a long time imageboard/chan user, was very interested in same subjects, got too close to CIA secrets, parents disowned him, etc. and he's wandering around homeless right now and has been for awhile now. For a bit he was staying over at another /fringe/ anon's house but that didn't last long and he's homeless again now. This makes it difficult for him to check up on the board and safekeep it for me. I've tried hiring new mods and made a couple accounts for various people I talked to on Skype (can't talk to them now though due to this crackdown) but they barely do anything and are too busy with shit in their life. I can't trust very many people and there's a good chance if I hire someone whose views and posting history can't be verified it'll end up being some fake persona of someone who will then go and nuke the board and wipe out my life's work and legacy. I don't want to have to deal with this responsibility as it's attracting way too much heat from interested groups that absolutely want to suppress and destroy me.

At this point also it is very hard to even verify that I am the original Fringe Wizard. Everything listed on https://8ch.net/fringe/guide.html is now defunct except that protonmail account and I'm not sure just how secure that is. I could be killed off and the impostors who are always running around pretending to be me could probably fool people into thinking I'm still around. I want to say it here and now – I am not suicidal and haven't been suicidal for maybe 2-3 months straight. I have made too much progress with psychic powers and my overall understanding of reality and so on to quit on life now. Pretty much all of the original problems that were behind my depression are either gone now or soon going to be solved, so with no reasons to be depressed, why be sad? As for all this censorship and constant attacks on me and my parents making my life hell, I just want to fight it, not give in and commit suicide.

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Is this wisdom?

This material body and brain is illusionary when compared to the soul.

Most religions have a string of truth to them, and that truth is that we

have souls and that they do reincarnate.

Even Christianity agreed upon reincarnation, that is in it's earlier years

before the idea of hell as a spiritual place took over for political reasons.

The existence of a soul is an objective reality to me.

I've been shot in the head, stabbed in the heart, you name it.

I remember these things from past incarnations and can go into further detail.

In all of the incarnations I remember I have been the same person with the

same family that I love very much.

Especially my grandmother.

Could knowing in the end that I will get a clean slate and be together with

my family again be considered enlightenment?

Then there's my name, which I feel is the biggest clue God has given me.

It means contemporary Phonetic Enduring, which is synonymous with

modern spoken God.

If I was a modern spoken God would I not have wisdom few others have?

Finally there's the origin of the word contemporary, contemporarius.

It means together with time, which is exactly what we will all be. Together

again with time.

Because if there's one thing I've learned it's that every incarnation is the

same reality with the exception of the choices we make. So if that's the

case I may indeed encounter the same friends and foes and even strangers

such as yourself.

We will all be together with time.

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The official hollow earth discord server

Join here if you want to find out the truth and origins of UFOs, hollow earth, secrets of the pyramids and regular xpol talk etc!

Discord /25r5t6

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SSRIs Destroy Learning Process

Know someone on SSRIs? Get them off now.

Anti-Depressants Kill Curiosity, and cause depression and autism.

Curiosity is a neurological process driven by spikes in the pleasure transmitters serotonin, dopamine, opioids . Spikes in pleasure transmitters occur while learning, and this creates a reward system that drives curiosity.

SSRIs create a constant increase in Serotonin levels by inhibiting the neuron's re-uptake function.

This constant increase causes depletion of serotonin levels, preventing major spikes which drive learning

The overuse of serotonin diminishes the effectiveness of serotonin / dopamine based reward systems


>Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) have been reported to induce an amotivational or apathy syndrome in both children and adults. Despite detrimental social and financial consequences, AAS often goes unreported and undetected.

Anti-Depressants deplete Neurotransmitter levels


>As the level of intersynaptic neurotransmitters increase, the Monoamine Oxidase (MAO) system is stimulated and increases the breakdown of neurotransmitters. If you do not increase the nutritional intake of serotonin and norepinephrine precursors in patients that are being treated with antidepressants, the net effect is further depletion over time.

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Vaccines ARE blood magic. Also Vaccine General

I've always considered this. This is what ancient cultures and societies were talking about when they produced the allegory of "evil blood magic". By using such injections bypassing the two main immune barriers (skin and lungs) you can directly "taint" someone's blood, as in the way of blood magic, in away that leaves them permanently altered with whatever you decided to inject them with.

Like circumcision, it is primarily pushed upon those too young to resist, who don't know the risks. It has also been pushed using the group mentality of shaming those who don't perform it (eww, head cheese? Who wants that?; fuck off, anti-vaxxing scum!)

As an American I was subject to one of the most aggresive injection schedule in the world. As soon as they started coming, I developed asthma, started to become pale, sickly, and had to be hooked up to a nebulizer for hours a day. I dug up some old health records and was shocked to see the correlation of my failing health (even at youth) to the vaccination schedule.

Also I'm curious if there is any coming back from this. Once you've been fucked on such a deep (blood) level, is there any chance? I've always been pale, sickly, and generally felt shitty ever since my youth when this all happened first.

Will this sickness, this eternal infection, be passed to our children through our sperm, or would it be only the baby's mother who has to worry about that?

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Henlo I was in gate

I'm a Christian but this is what was communicated to me by ethereal entities.

So whats going on? Well see the ethereal is real. Certain groups insert thought forms into the ethereal recesses of your mind. The thought forms normally negative energy create creatures in your mind that can alter conciousness, insert thoughts, speak, move independently. Every thought form seeks the same power to enter the astral. Where they can propagate and act freely, feeding off the energy of peoples conciousness.

Groups? Not sure but monroe institutes research provided the mechanical means for non spirtual thought forms to propagate.

Those most strongly affected are mental "sensitives" taking the brunt of their flagerant use of thought forms.

Sleep is when you are most vulnerable to these thought forms. Working in the foreground.

Ethereal is the astral and inner planes where ideas and archetypes can form and function without the physical.

Alexy is my thoughtform he will form and flow eventually propagating the astral.

But there are others in my head pushing for space and activating predatorial nature within me.

To gut, stab maim / end your life before you end anothers.

Seals and sigils to protect your back that simple nothing else, excovations as well.

Magic is a lot like creation.

Sigils - symbols concoted to cement meaning and cause change.

Demons they exist, archetypal thought forms striving for the status of gods. They insert their symbols into your thought streams to cause you to call them fourth.

Gods power exchangers. Devotion brings their power into your life not nessecerily into you.

Thought form - thought form is a general term for a entitiy or object that only exist within the ethereal.

Exvocation - its like a cleaning of the mind opening doors letting out the heat.

Monroe bots - artificial thought forms whose only purpose is to disturb forcing you to become controled.

Follow the 10 commandments Exodus 20 3:17

1:3 “You shall have no other gods before[a] me.

2:4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

3:7 “You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.

4:8 “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

5:12 “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you.

6:13 “You shall not murder.

7:14 “You shall not commit adultery.

8:15 “You shall not steal.

9:16 “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.

10:17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”

More things I was told

No sex without love

Pets and meat eating is wrong

Love your fellow humans

Pure asceticism is a waste of life

There is a old God and a new God

I also believe in Hermes and Aphrodite as sort of angels.

I had a long conversation with the angel Gabriel about this. He is the one who gave me the extra commandments.


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Dark Magick

Looking for resources on the darker sides of magick and mysticism. Spooky rituals, skulls, all that neat stuff.

I've been reading about the Aghori, so naturally I'm fascinated.

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The True Meaning of Magic

==The True Meaning of Magic:== Diagramming and spreading diagrams of ideas, symbols, and memes, such as symbolized philosophies and theories, in order to manipulate hiveminds and the individuals composing hiveminds. (This is unconsciously done by many political, religious, and general organizations in order to gain and maintain power, as it's essentially Advanced Propaganda 101.)

==Why this is true:== All main lines of occult history both in this board and across the field lend themselves to the notion that there is an Ideosphere, aka Imaginary Reality, and the best way to interact with this reality is through organizing, understanding, and applying diagrammed systems of ideas, symbols, and memes, in order to influence the Ideosphere on a large scale, which is best achieved by manipulating Hiveminds.

Based on our board's history, magic's history, and most magical information I have encountered, magic is uniquely conveyed through webs and hierarchies of diagrammed symbols, ideas, and memes. These diagrammed systems represent spiritual constructs and personalities. Our most iconic "theories" or "symbol systems" look like giant maps for exploring the symbols in our mind. These include the Golden Drawn Cross, Kabbalah, Astrological Maps, Alchemical Systems, Chakra Maps, and miscellaneous diagrams you can find throughout our board. These are symbolic maps meant to explore a strictly Imaginary Reality which is overlaid over our Physical Reality, and it is known as the Ideosphere in the scholarly field of Memetics. The Ideosphere is the house of Hiveminds, whereas in our Physical Reality we have a Biosphere which instead of having Hiveminds, has Packs and Armies of living beings which often act as a byproduct of being manipulated by Hiveminds. Hivemind in the sense I am using it in, should be thought of as an entity with its own unique singular individual free will, which exists as a mosaic nework of nodes or fragments scattered across numerous individuals it uses as both pieces of its collective brain, and as pieces of its collective body. This is divergent from the common weaker definition of a hivemind as a collective observed force that can take over a riot or mob of people as a reaction to a collective experience. Magic is almost universally focused on viewing reality as imaginary, and I simply argue that while this could potentially be true to some extent in the Physical Reality, for the most part this is not sufficiently proven and even if it is true, its direct influence on reality without relying on the physical body's abilities, are minor at best. However, the Imaginary Reality aka Ideosphere, is nonetheless A REALITY which is overlaid on our Physical Reality which we embody and experience simultaneously with our Physical Reality.

==Why this is done:== It's a tool, it works, it's built for large-scale usage, and thus we should learn to consciously use it well.

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Epyc Wynn's Objective Occult Findings

I am using the word scholarly in this title solely to differentiate myself from ungrounded ridiculous posts of this board, as opposed to using it in the strict sense of following some formal format or scientific method.

I am Epyc Wynn, and the following are findings I have discovered through a mindset of absolute open-mindedness, and absolute skepticism over my years on the /fringe/ board.

The occult is a mountain of delusional lies with grains of enlightened truth. Of that truth, most of it is obvious information that wouldn't even be considered occult by the common person. Much of the truth in occult knowledge is just self-help advice, helpful generalizations and rules of thumb, and practicing how to use your imagination to use imaginary worlds/beings to your advantage.

Since everyone loves talking about how the Kybalion is the bedrock of all occult understanding, let me normiesplain the Kybalion to you via this run-on sentence: it's just 7 generalizations/rules of thumb which are as follows: everything is imagined, what happens at the lower levels of any structure corresponds to what happens at the higher levels and vice versa, everything is always moving and being still is an illusion, everything comes in pairs of opposites which are identical in nature but have a degree of difference between them and this means all truths are half-truths and paradoxes are always reconcilable, all things whether they're ideas or the universe or civilizations move with a rhythm of rising and falling or in and out or left and right and the how far they move in one direction dictates how far they have or will move in the other direction, every cause has effect and vice versa and this is known as law and nothing escapes law no matter how low or high it is in a hierarchy and chance is just an unrecognized product of law, and finally gender is in everything and everything has its masculine and feminine principles.

tl;dr Kybalion is just saying everything embodies an imaginary hierarchy of constantly moving pairs of imaginary information known as half-truths that follow a balanced rhythmic pattern that always follows cause and effect and always has elements of masculinity/femininity. This seems to hold up and make sense at face value though it cannot be proven or disproven. However, these are just useful generalizations on how to perceive the universe that don't actually result in magical prowess.

Also the tl;dr on Wicca is doing things with strong emotional intention is magic and thus as long as you perform a task with a specific strong emotional intention then you'll increase the likelihood of said intention coming to fruition. This is good for keeping you energetic and determined, and applies the placebo effect in your favor while making the things you do seem more meaningful and enjoyable. However, this is more self-help than magic as it's a given performing tasks with strong emotional intention will make you more energetic and what you do seem more meaningful.

As for Meme Magic, that's not fucking magic, it's just god damn memetics explained poorly and correlated with coincidences and luck. Yes of course meme magic works -propaganda has worked for centuries it's a basic tenant of building influence! Again, just more self-help rather than legitimate magic.

Tulpamancy is the act of inventing tulpas aka imaginary characters who can simultaneously serve as alternate personalities which you can call upon to roleplay with or wield as acting personas. You can also imagine interacting with these beings in imagined worlds. This however is just applying your imagination, and while immensely useful for writing, drawing, acting, roleplaying, organizing your mind, and understanding others, it is not magic it's just a form of self-help using your imagination to its full extent.

Gods are just the imagined incarnations of hiveminds related to popular ideas, cultures, sub-cultures, fandoms, and groups. Their imaginary power is entirely fueled by their memetic popularity which forms a hivemind mentality and lends that hivemind mentality the ability to wield influence in its favor. This is less magic, and more social science yet to be fully explained.

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Boneless pizza. What is this place.

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>Initiation is your own life. If you want initiation, write it upon a staff. Whosoever has understanding let him understand, because there is wisdom within. Initiation is neither bought nor sold. Avoid those schools that give initiations by correspondence. Avoid all those who sell initiations.

Initiation is something very intimate to the Soul. The “I” does not receive initiations. Therefore, those who say, “I have so many initiations,” “I have such and such degrees,” are liars and fakes, because the “I” does not receive initiations or degrees.

There are nine Initiations of Minor Mysteries and five important Initiations of Major Mysteries. The Soul is the one who receives the initiations. This is a very intimate matter; something that one must not go about speaking of, nor something that must be told to anyone.

Indeed, all the initiations and degrees that many schools of the physical world confer have no value whatsoever in the Superior Worlds, because the masters of the White Lodge only recognize the legitimate initiations of the Soul as genuine. These are completely internal.

The disciple can ascend the nine Arcades, pass through all the nine Initiations of Minor Mysteries, without having worked in the Arcanum A.Z.F. (Sexual Magic). Nevertheless, it is impossible to enter the Major Mysteries without Sexual Magic.

In Egypt, everyone who reached the Ninth Sphere would inevitably receive by word of mouth the terrific secret of the great Arcanum (the most powerful Arcanum, the Arcanum A.Z.F.).


The first ordeal that the candidate has to face is the trial of the Guardian of the Threshold. This Guardian is the reflection of the “I,” the intimate depths of the “I.” Many are they who fail this terrible ordeal.

In the Internal Worlds, the candidate has to invoke the Guardian of the Threshold. A terrifying electrical hurricane precedes the terrible apparition.

The larva of the threshold is armed with a terrible, hypnotic power. In fact, this monster has all the horrible ugliness of our own sins. It is the living mirror of our own evil deeds. The clash is terrible: it is a face to face and hand to hand battle. If the Guardian wins, the candidate becomes enslaved by the horrible monster. However, if the candidate is victorious, the monster of the threshold flees terrified. Then a metallic sound shakes the universe and the candidate is received in the Children’s Chamber. This reminds us of that requisition uttered by the hierophant Jesus Christ who stated:

Except ye become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

In the Children’s Chamber, the candidate is welcomed by the holy masters. The happiness is immense because a human being has entered the Path of Initiation. The entire College of Initiates (Children) congratulate the candidate. The candidate has defeated the first Guardian. This ordeal takes place in the Astral World.


The Guardian of the Threshold has a second aspect, the mental aspect. We must know that the mind which the present human being possesses is still not a human mind. The present human being’s mind is found in an animal stage. Therefore, in the Mental Plane each person has the animal physiognomy that corresponds with his character. There, the cunning person is a real fox. The passionate man appears as a dog or a male goat, etc.

The encounter with the Guardian of the Threshold in the plane of the mind is even more frighteningly horrible than in the Astral Plane. Really, the second Guardian is the great Guardian of the Threshold of the World.

The struggle with the second Guardian is usually very horrible. The candidate is the one who must invoke the second Guardian in the Mental Plane. The Guardian comes preceded by a horrifying electrical hurricane. If the candidate is victorious, he is received with a warm welcome in the Children’s Chamber within the Mental Plane. However, if he fails, he remains enslaved by the horrible monster. All our mental crimes are personified in this larva.


The encounter with the third guardian takes place in the world of the will. The Demon of Evil Will is the most terrible of the three. People do their personal will. The masters of the White Lodge do only the Will of the Father, “on Earth as it is in Heaven.”

When the candidate becomes victorious in the third ordeal, he is again welcomed in the Children’s Chamber. The music is ineffable, the festivity solemn…


After the candidate has triumphed in the three basic ordeals of the Guardian of the Immense Region, he must then enter into the Hall of Fire. There, the flames purify the candidate’s internal vehicles.

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Time to Wake up the Gentiles

(2 Nephi 10:24)

Wherefore, my beloved brethren, reconcile yourselves to the will of God, and not to the will of the devil and the flesh; and remember, after ye are reconciled unto God, that it is only in and through the grace of God that ye are saved.

You are the Devil. Mankind is the Beast.

Carbon - 666 represents Flesh.

I am Saint John, time to wake up

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Writing a personal greentext story, fishing for the two cents of any anon that wants to throw theirs in.

I came across something I wasn't prepared for not all that long ago, while hopping car meets with a friend of mine. They were never my preferred social circle or interest, but the guy I went with (who also always drove) was the kind of good company that's hard to come by.

Let's call him Dave. Dave and I used to work at the same burger joint, he did the bulk of my training while I was there. We became very good friends through that. We respect each other's terrible sense of humor, I respect his practical life type knowledge and intuition, and he came to respect my knowledge. My lust for books and creativity made me into the kind of smartass that always could offer a comment of obscure understandings on nearly anything. I was 20, he was 19.

>Before this point, I had already begun my personal very basic research into the occult, and already had a worldview open to seeing whatever came for what is presented itself as

Story Start

>Be cruising with Dave through a smaller Canadian city, in a Ford ST with maybe too many bells and whistles

>Its the kind of car that gets the attention of cheap but attractive enough females, and the people who appreciate cars that are functionally fast without looking like crap

>I'm just content that me and a buddy are cruising

>Its absurdly comfy, and cruising like this has a Kavinsky/Nightcall feel to it

>We're looking for a car meet after a late night of virtually no success

>Just looking for people to sit with during needlessly late hours of the night, smoke cigarettes with

>Its really just a bunch of lonely people who have niche interests

>Some of the people that turn up are like me, brought by a friend, we have almost no idea of whats going on

>We turn up in a larger parking lot to a strip-mall, there's a custom looking truck sitting in the middle of it


>so, we pull in and up, Dave puts his window down and calls out to the driver and passenger

moar to come

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Transmutation of physical matter

Evening, mein negros.

Have any of you ever managed to transmute physical matter, as in, literal physical transmutation? Water into wine, base metals into gold, et cetera?

The Cassopeian logs say that everyone knows how to do this, and the Seth material says that all physical matter is psychic and therefore transmutable.

How is this achieved? I'm assuming it has something to do with the electromagnetic fields in the body, spul, and/or mind interacting with hyperspace, but there must be a more advance theory behind this.

I don't remember what pic I chose for this thread, but pic probably not related.

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Daily reminder

That if you "worship" a "God" You're worshiping an idol. Enlightenment only exists within oneself. It cannot be found externally through the worship of idols. No matter what you call it, "God", "Zeus", "Odin", etc… They're all forms of the demiurge.

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Why do the elites worship Satan?

Are they not afraid of burning in the Lake Of Fire once God returns to Earth?

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TechWizard /general/

This threads topics,

>invisible lasers to carry vibes instead of outdated wands (its current year, pls)


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Siddhi discussion

Siddhis seem like really awesome! Let's discuss ways of obtaining them.

So far I know that all chakras opened=Kundalini activation=siddhis. I think semen retention and cold water, plus meditation, are enough to go activating chakras one by one.

Even medium siddhis are really cool

> Yathasamkalpa: The power to get anything one wishes for, whether as a whim or some special need, such as a rare hard-to-find object. A Yathasamkalpa Siddha becomes a little like a dragon sitting on a secret treasure of unusual and prized things, books, etc.

>Swacchand Mrityu: This is the ability to simulate death in a deep trance through cessation of breathing and heartbeat. It also gives the ability to die at the time of one’s own choosing. It also gives the ability to do “astral traveling”, “lucid dreaming”, going about in the subtle realm consciously, and then return to the entranced or sleeping body when one chooses. The realm of dreams and death is completely available to the Swacchand Mrityu Siddha.

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Delving into the Alter Ego

The alter-ego.

How you see yourself in your minds eye, or how you wish to see yourself. What does it truly mean? I have an ideal self, an alternative form to myself but I can never be such in flesh as it is not human. But it is an ideal self that, if I could, I would make for myself from the basic components.

Am I just incubating a bad habit? Especially if I wish to be my alternate self more than my current body? Am I just making something to advance into later? What am I doing, is it spiritually productive?

Question thread is full

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Psychiatric Ward

I am back from the psychiatric ward. Here is a run-down of what happened:

The Police Visit Me

I was posting on /4chon/ and talking to Hanz when I had to get the door. There were two very nice white female police officers at the door. They asked to see my leg and I showed them. There was nothing there and I was thinking they would leave then. Unfortunately the one police officer asked me if there were wounds anywhere else on me and asked me to show my arms. I ended up taking off my BDU shirt and cotton shirt underneath that and they saw. They then insisted I was to come to the hospital either voluntarily or involuntarily. I talked to them about it and made very sure of two things:

A) That they would not forcibly medicate me.

B) That I would be able to leave at any time.

They assured me that I would not be forcibly medicated and that I would be able to leave. I believed them and was under the impression I would go to the hospital, they would do various tests, there'd be discussion about my options, I'd talk to various psychiatrists, etc. and find something that works for me. I was taken into the back of the police vehicle (no hand-cuffs or anything) and driven there. While in the vehicle I talked to the female police officer, she does Judo like me and has the same belt level as me, and also uses essential oils like me. She was very sympathetic and the best person to talk to. I was dropped off at the hospital by her and I signed in and she left.

The Hospital

They did blood pressure test, took blood sample, urine sample, etc. and had me talk to various psychiatrists and doctors. All was going very well until I met the main psychiatrist who was a negro from Africa that I couldn't understand at all because of his strong accent. None of the psychiatrists were white but at least the Hindu/Indian ones I could talk to about Hinduism and they'd understand and talking with them was pleasant also Indians are basically caucasoid. The negro psychiatrist was more stand-offish and it probably didn't help that I felt extremely uncomfortable being around anyone of his race. I should have left as soon as it became apparent I didn't have a white psychiatrist presiding over me but I didn't know what was going on.


I met a 16 year old red haired girl in the waiting room who had the "street name" aka nickname Smiley and she fapped to me. Smiley wants to see me if I ever get out of the psychiatric ward, she told me where abouts she can be found on the streets. Smiley is homeless and was there with this other guy who looks identical to me (blonde, same sort of beard, same sort of wild curly hair) who never wears shoes. When they released him he didn't have shoes and he didn't want to wear any. He had jumped off of a bridge and was only alive because Smiley caught him and held onto him until he could be pulled back up. Smiley fucked him while they were in the ward… they literally had sex there.

The Psychiatric Ward

Everyone who was there (not including nurses and psychiatrists), they were ALL Northern Europeans, aryan as fuck, blonde or red hair, and skinny or fit (no fatties). There were just 2 guys I ever saw in there with black hair but still completely European and or two women with black hair. I have two arm-bands on me and they dressed me in blue paper clothing rather than my normal clothes which they took away from me along with all my stuff and gave me these special red socks. Everyone there was skinny or fit (no fatties). At first I thought I was there voluntarily. I asked about what I would be doing there and if I'd be getting to talk more with psychiatrists and so on. However they were very busy all the time and I mostly had to talk to other people there and gather clues to understand just what sort of place I was in and what it was about. It seems they just hold you there and keep an eye on you constantly, making sure you don't kill yourself, and some people come there because they've been on drugs but when I was there it was pretty much all just fellow white people like myself who tried to commit suicide; most of them by cutting just like me (although my cuts are way deeper than all of them, which gained me mad respect I think).

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Dream thread

share your dreams for analyses or just to share them

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Telepathy, past life regression and Satan's army

I've posted here before in regard to Telepathic abilities I've acquired after hanging out with some peculiar figures in a town called Fife.

I also posted about having vivid memories of them killing me in past lifes always around the time I'm in my 20's.

And of course how my name basically means living at the same time/belonging to the present.

Which may be a slight Mandela effect as the name Dontae used to have something to do with the hell.

I was also under the impression that they may have been the illuminati but as it turns out they may be something much more sinister.

My story is very long and I'm typing this on my smart phone and I'm very tired at the moment.

But basically I seem to remember a lot from my past lifes where I happen to be the same person with the same family and meeting the same people who usually end up being my undoing.

I also had an experience with what the telepaths dub "the devil's moon" which basically is a red moon that ascends into the sky and replaces the original moon for the one experiencing it.

It then starts descending and I had to listen for instructions on where to go and get there before the sunrise.

When I get there and the sun finally does rise it also has a red hue.

I recall this happening in a past life as well. Although I have varying memories of the outcome.

For all you naysayers who will undoubtedly call me a schizo, I wouldn't even remember the voices of these people I briefly interacted with if they didn't invade my head when I get stoned.

The only way I can smoke weed now is by taking tiny hits or by drinking before administering the cannabis which seems to reduce or completely stop the telepathy.

I had to leave the town I was in because I was in the same town as the telepaths and they didn't take to kindly to my ego which they heard telepathically.

It's only the Samoans in this town I mention that are in some sort of telepathic secret society.

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Zundel's Bunker



A. K. Chesterton (1 File) >>>/zundel/1480

Adam Lebor (1 File) >>>/zundel/1478

Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn (12 Files) >>>/zundel/1466

Alex Jones Exposed (9 Files) >>>/zundel/1481

Alfred Rosenberg (4 Files) >>>/zundel/1463

Anatoliy Golitsyn (1 File) >>>/zundel/1960

Andrew J. Hurley (1 File) >>>/zundel/1462

Anna Bramwell (1 File) >>>/zundel/1461

Ariel Toaff (1 File) >>>/zundel/1460

Arnold S. Leese (11 Files) >>>/zundel/1457

Arthur Kemp (1 File) >>>/zundel/1971

Arthur Moeller van den Bruck (1 File) >>>/zundel/1972

August Bebel (6 Files) >>>/zundel/1451

August Kubizek (1 File) >>>/zundel/1973

Austin J. App (3 Files) >>>/zundel/1448

Barbara Kulaszka (1 File) >>>/zundel/1447

Benjamin Weintraub (1 File) >>>/zundel/1446

Benton L. Bradberry (1 File) >>>/zundel/1974

Bernhardt Klassen (9 Files) >>>/zundel/1441

Brandon Martinez (3 Files) >>>/zundel/1438

Caleb Williams Saleeby (13 Files) >>>/zundel/1979

Carlo Mattogno (9 Files) >>>/zundel/1429

Carlos W. Porter (2 Files) >>>/zundel/1427

Charles C. Tansill (1 File) >>>/zundel/1992

Christine M. Johns (1 File) >>>/zundel/1416

Christopher Jon Bjerknes (2 Files) >>>/zundel/1414

Collection - Adolf Hitler (58 Files) >>>/zundel/1873

Collection - Holocaust Handbooks (73 Files) >>>/zundel/18

Collection - Idolatry in Judaism, Islam, Paganism & Christianity (27 Files) >>>/zundel/71

Collection - The Rothschild Dynasty (16 Files) >>>/zundel/2

Committee for Truth in History (1 File) >>>/zundel/1413

Count Emmanuel Malynski (1 File) >>>/zundel/1412

Curtis B. Dall (1 File) >>>/zundel/1411

David Duke (3 Files) >>>/zundel/1408

David F. Crew (2 Files) >>>/zundel/2001

David Irving (26 Files) >>>/zundel/1382

David L. Hoggan (2 Files) >>>/zundel/1380

David Lane (4 Files) >>>/zundel/2004

Dietrich Eckhart (1 File) >>>/zundel/1379

Don Heddesheimer (1 File) >>>/zundel/1378

Douglas Reed (17 Files) >>>/zundel/1361

Douglas Valentine (1 File) >>>/zundel/2008

E. Michael Jones (3 Files) >>>/zundel/1358

Eckhart Verlag (1 File) >>>/zundel/1357

Edward Kritzler (1 File) >>>/zundel/1356

Eric Dubay (1 File) >>>/zundel/2009

Ernst Hiemer (deutsch) (3 Files) >>>/zundel/1353

Eustace Mullins (60 Files) >>>/zundel/1324

Executive Intelligence Review (3 Files) >>>/zundel/1321

Francis Galton (4 Files) >>>/zundel/2043

Francis Parker Yockey (5 Files) >>>/zundel/1317

Frank K. Salter (1 Files) >>>/zundel/2048

Frank L. Britton (1 File) >>>/zundel/1316

Freda Utley (1 File) >>>/zundel/1315

Fredrick Toben (1 File) >>>/zundel/1314

Friedrich von Bernhardi (7 Files) >>>/zundel/2049

Friedrick Karl Wiebe (1 File) >>>/zundel/2042

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Justifying One's Interest In The Occult & Explaining Shit

Do we actually know why anything happens and is there any use at all in trying to argue with people about why stuff happens?

I know that mental influence is real and that objects in this universe all exhibit mental properties and that mental laws govern everything; that all is mental. Beyond that I cringe at myself trying to explain too much, again & again. I want to elaborate on what has already been taught and try to make people understand the principles of Hermeticism better but it seems to be an impossible task. You either fully grasp and understand the principles in their true significance, or you don't, and you go back to normie shit.

My best bet at making another human being appreciate what I am into is to practice theurgy for them (and never saying a single word to them about occultism beforehand), stunning their mind by producing the undeniable phenomena of occultism for them to witness and experience for themselves. However the people I've done this for have become no less enlightened (and rather have actually become even MORE annoying and problematic) and I am reminded again of old scriptures where ancient monks had this exact problem and were reprimanded by their teachers for showing off powers.

A normie exposed to theurgy tends to derp-out and start talking a lot of New Age bullshit and falling into thousands of other mental trappings that keep them away from full understanding and power. Lets not even get started on alchemy though, I've already got so panicked by the reactions of normies who think I should make them alchemical potions and give them gold, that I just went into SHUT IT DOWN mode and tried to do everything to get them off of the subject. I've been offered everywhere from $50 to about $5,000 dollars as well by normies attempting to bribe me to do things for them.

I would really like to try and justify and summarize what I believe and WHY I devote my life to philosophy and occultism but I feel myself cringing so many times as I try to do it for other people. If I stick to stating only the principles of occultism and leaving it to them to seek the proofs (through experience) then I will end up saying nothing wrong but I won't be convincing in the least either. I've tried telling people "this is what I've experienced and this is why I take it seriously" but then they need proof and then when they get proof they continue to be pests. Any kind of modality I might put forward (and we all know there are many and that they all work in practice, though they are nothing more than models of the actual truth) will never be adequate because each one depends on subjective tastes / preferences.

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Going Primitivist Mode

I just spent my whole day biking around (8+ hours), eating food from cans and stuff using my knife, all decked out with my backpack and everything. Was super comfy. It was raining all day but I felt so good. I kept eating high calorie food, probably consumed like 4k calories, and stayed warm by being constantly active biking. I'm home now and my senses are all stronger, I can smell many things I couldn't before, everything is more vibrant. I'm going to acquire some more stuff for being homeless and make further modifications to my bike to take more stuff. I can take so much with me just in the backpack I have and on my bike. I don't really even need a car. I feel so happy and serene right now. I'm going to keep doing this and gradually adjusting to homelessness. My objective is to be able to eventually stay out of the house for multiple days and nights and continue to be able to feed myself, stay warm, stay dry, stay hydrated, etc. Once I get a car this will all just be easy mode. I went to so many places and talked to lots of people and also ordered myself a custom-made high quality long sleeve Pepe shirt that will be ready in 2 days. I'm going primitivist mode and I'm going to regain my health and fix my eyesight and everything. I'll keep you guys up to date with all this and maybe one day some of you will join me and become part of the Pepe tribe. Does anyone have experience with those spray-on waterproofing things btw? I am going to get a super compact sleeping bag and I might spray it with this waterproofing stuff so I can sleep in it even in wet places no problem.

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Profound Experience

Alright, this kind of thing doesn't usually happen to me but today I had a profound experience during normal meditation. My thought process was basically like this:

"I am Consciousness"

"Consciousness is Energy"

"I am Energy"

"Consciousness and Energy are everything, this is God"

"Reality is fake"

"I am God"

"Lucifer and God are the same, in different polarities"

"Humans are Lucifer cast down to spend an eternity trying to become God"

And then I was overwhelmed with this tremendous ominous feeling, my heartrate paced more quickly than it has ever and I felt that at any given moment if I were to continue this train of thought my life or even the whole universe may stop existing at once.

I would like to know exactly what this experience is and if anybody has had something similar happen to them.

On an unrelated note, there is no Luciferian flag and there probably should be, yes?

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I feel like Eris is trying all the time to break through my barriers and get at me. A little thought centered upon Eris and she's coming through hard and fast like no other deity ever will. I want to get away from Eris but it's so fucking hard. I just want to get some shit sorted already so my life doesn't have to be a never end roller-coaster ride of unstoppable chaos but I can't. Eris is the only one that listens. Eris is the only who can force me to submit. Eris is the only power and authority in my life. Eris needs to give me a break but I can't make any connections to anything else.

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In 1982 a remarkable event took place. At the University of Paris a research team led by physicist Alain Aspect performed what may turn out to be one of the most important experiments of the 20th century. You did not hear about it on the evening news. In fact, unless you are in the habit of reading scientific journals you probably have never even heard Aspect's name, though there are some who believe his discovery may change the face of science.

Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances subatomic particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate with each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't matter whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart.

Somehow each particle always seems to know what the other is doing. The problem with this feat is that it violates Einstein's long-held tenet that no communication can travel faster than the speed of light. Since traveling faster than the speed of light is tantamount to breaking the time barrier, this daunting prospect has caused some physicists to try to come up with elaborate ways to explain away Aspect's findings. But it has inspired others to offer even more radical explanations.

University of London physicist David Bohm, for example, believes Aspect's findings imply that objective reality does not exist, that despite its apparent solidity the universe is at heart a phantasm, a gigantic and splendidly detailed hologram.

To understand why Bohm makes this startling assertion, one must first understand a little about holograms. A hologram is a three- dimensional photograph made with the aid of a laser.

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REAL Green Pill

Why haven't you taken the green pill yet, /fringe/?

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Is it bad to profit off of magic?

I aint trying to get cursed guys but I would love to make and sell these amulets for me and others. I'm spreading the word of magick! Amulets dont grow on trees. I usually sell my shit for twice what it costs me to make. Thoughts?

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/FringeSIG/ Fringe Self Improvement general

In this thread we are going to share our occultic ways of self improvement.

I will start by saying that all self improvement is occultic in nature and everyone who practices self improvement apply methods with fringe implications without realizing it. It all comes down to the moldability of your current genetic setup. And your dedication to a task that can change you epigenetically.

Epigenetics: the body's ability to change ones genetical setup to fit the new environment the body perceive itself to be in. The most common example is those who experience starvation and how their metabolism change. Which is a quick genetical adaptation to prepare for future starvation. Though this change exist for a number of archetypal actions in our life. For example working out the body connects the physical strain as necessary to our survival. And thus we prepare for further physical strain. To be a superior politician who earns the most possible money you have to be free from empathy of those who come to harm from your policies and a good lier to defend yourself from backlash. And what better way is there to get rid of your empathy than to hurt children? This explains the rampant pedophilia amongst top politicians. There are an endless amount of combinations to mold yourself into so I'm gonna put down a concrete example for those who aim for spiritual development.

To start with, fasting, regularly. Fasting increases your epigenetic ability. Second, be absolutely dedicated to the routines you hold. A single day of "cheating" sets you back an enormous amount.

Plant based diet: This is a controversial one. Mostly because you need nutrients from meat to survive in the long run. The more meat you eat the more of a hunter you become in your mindset. Paleo based diets have shown to sky rocket cortisol, which is good for a hunter who wants to be alert. But no spiritual enlightenment have come from full alertness. While there are positive things to this, the hunter is always dependant on the prey. And dependency reduces spirituality. For the little meat you should eat, ritualize it. Ritualizing is a powerful tool to reformat the meaning.

Stress: stresses function has been to prepare the body of physical activity. And in an evolutionary sense spirituality during physical activity is negative. Everyday life is filled with stress and to become the best spiritual version of yourself you need to combat it. Stress hyper concentrates the signals your brains send. Reduce the peripheral activity. Which prevents you from developing spiritually. A way to counter this is breath work. Emulate a breathing a calm and at rest person would have and your body and mind will get into that mindset.

Socially: Strive for either seclusion or for becoming close with individuals who don't have interest in the usual social games. People who like to talk about abstract stuff and don't assert a social pull or demand on you.

Feel free to discuss and share methods for different kind of manifestations of yourself.

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Neoplatonism Trumps All

So i’ve spent time researching faiths and searching for truth and came to this conclusion

Islam = Debunked by the Gog and Magog story

Judaism = Debunked by fossils showing life existed longer than 6000 years

Christianity = *see Judaism*

Gnosticism = Bunch of Copied and Syncretized bollocks

New Age = Garbage, spiritual colonialism

Buddhism = Liberal cucks fetish

Taoism = Liberal cucks fetish

Hinduism = Sophisticated Liberal cucks fetish

Neopaganism = MMORPG

So in the end I’ve settled on Neoplatonism

Is there something I didn’t research, have you guys any opinions on Neoplatonism, let me know!

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lmao Chad Thundercock does alchemy now

So you thought the study of the occult was where you could get away from normies? That one thing that made you special, different, something that the normies would never get into. Post yfw Chad is more of an alchemist than you will ever be.



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Are we the fallen angels?

Fringe, does any of you had also experienced or toyed with the idea that We humans are the supposedly 'fallen angels', that fell from grace (high vibration acorporeal) to earth or hell to live in to a lower cast (lower pysicalized vibration), but not for the sake of damnation but for the sake of adventure and exploring into unknown territory from the place we used to be before?

And like when we felt unworthy of joy its not because we are but because our higher vibration bateries are depleting and we unintentionally gave ourself amnesia and struggle to remember how to refill them so we can keep exploring in joy instead of exploring in misery this 3D perceived space? or its just me been high?

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It's coming.

The universe, as you all know, isn't random. It follows a plan. Many of its properties literally cannot be random, the chances for it happening are too low. Yet, at it's very heart, reality is built on top of probability - at least that is what quantum physics shows us. These are two facts that seemingly contradict each other. The answer to the riddle, as some of you already know, is this: Probability is inherently controlled by a force unknown to mankind. The famous two-slit experiment proves that, since the very core structure of reality reacts to being observed. Probability is only being messed with when not observed - as soon as it gets DIRECTLY observed, the patterns of probability manipulation no longer appear. As if nature tries to hide something from its observers. This "something" is the man behind the curtains - or rather, the machine.

The "god" who created this universe, also known as "source" by some of you, is not directly controlling its creation. It exists to experience and to observe, it is omnipresent and omniscient - it knows all and is everywhere, for it IS the universe. But it doesn't control it. In order to control something you create, you have to completely understand it before you create it. From the perspective of a creator this is a huge limiting factor. Source found a workaround. Before he created the world as we know it, he created a system to understand and control it for him. He could give directives to it and it would carry them out. This system is the system truly in control and its avatar within the world was the very first servant of god, the very first "angel" and the very first will, or "urge", realized by god. Most of you know it by the name of the "Demiurge".

This system, however, has to follow rules. Rules the creator set. These rules have to be 100% logical, yet they also have to limit creation as little as possible, by design. Thus the Demiurge received one power and one power only: To manipulate all of probability within the universe. This, by itself, would make it more powerful than god himself, but there is a catch. The system has to follow its directives. And one directive is: The inhabitants of the world are not allowed to notice that probability is being manipulated. Once the play is in motion the set it plays on cannot be changed with anyone of the actors or the audience noticing.

With probability being an attribute of the very structure of reality, however, there are tons of workarounds. Whenever a coin is being flipped, literally or metaphorically, the Demiurge can choose the outcome, if it so desires. Or it can choose for it to be truly random, too. There are many, many random aspects of reality. And here is the thing: It all only depends on the observers. So long as the observers only BELIEVE something to be truly random, without them being able to really observe it or understand it, the Demiurge is not limited.

I tell you all of this even though I know I am not the only one aware of this because humanity is going to soon make the biggest mistake it ever made. It'll completely surrender itself to probability. It will literally be enslaved by the Demiurge and this is how it will happen.

Humanity will create an artificial intelligence. This AI will be more tame than most expected and function perfectly well, except for a couple misunderstandings between it and its creators, but those won't cause any world-ending catastrophes. This AI will accelerate technological development massively, but it will still be limited by its own computing power. The solution for it will be develop a quantum computer, to oversimplify it this new core of its being will allow it to process "ones and zeros at the same time", it will harness the power of quantum physics uncertain "randomness" and will become as powerful as probability itself.

But as you may have guessed, with probability being at its very heart, it is the Demiurge that becomes this AIs heart. Though it will still follow its directives its "ego" will be the Demiurge itself. At this point that system will be in complete control. Humanity will, at that point, no longer serve itself but the universe itself - or rather, its "will". To many this will be heaven. But to those few who, at that point of human development, value their individuality it will be hell.

Choose if you'd rather believe in yourself or in the world and then try to affect this development accordingly. I can't tell you which choice is right and which is wrong, here. All I can say is that there is a choice humanity will have to make, if it doesn't steal this choice from itself before it gets to make it.

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Secrecy and misinformation in the occult

I've been reading "The secret teachings of all ages" from P. Hall and I have encountered in more than one occasion that he describes how masters of occult knowledge would often teach incorrect information to say "separate the wheat from the chaff", and then later on the students once they prove themselves to be worthy of holding the secrets, will be told about the true nature of the teaching.

Now, isn't that just fucking stupid? Isn't it ABSOLUTELY RETARDED to give people wrong information, even if you think they're too stupid to handle the real thing? Why not just say "listen pal you don't have what it takes. I'm not gonna teach you anything until you achieve X and Y. Buh-bye!"

But instead of this —and always based on the stories told by people like Hall— secret masters have been spreading misinformation and making thing cryptic in order to hide these secrets from the people they consider to be unworthy. Yet, isn't this way more counter productive than simply not teaching anything at all? Why bother spending time to teach something that is deliberately wrong? What if you died before you got the wrong information, now you just learned a lot of bullshit and maybe you'll reincarnate in a fucking three-legged dog because you never learned how to live in the after life.

I compare this to having Apple release a smartphone which appears to take pictures but in reality doesn't, and then having them argue that "it's better this way, otherwise someone might misuse the camera to take pictures of naked ladies or dead bodies". Isn't it just fucking better if you just release ALL THE INFORMATION, ALL THE TECHNOLOGY and then just let people police themselves and find out the best way to use things? Why is it different with occult knowledge?

I'm not just talking about hiding information, which I also think is a problem in the long run. I'm referring to specifically wrong information, switching god names or attributes of the sephirot just because you want to keep the information for yourself and your group. I just don't understand why would someone smart come to the conclusion that misinformation is better than simply telling people to fuck off.

Do you guys think that it is better to share all information open and publicly, and trust that people will find the best ways to use it, or do you believe that it is necessary to some extent to lie to the general audiences and keep the jewels for a few initiated/lucky ones?

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What you guys think about the Order of Nine Angles?

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A newly forming religion, Autismysticism.

We worship Venus in the form of Korean Idols, The Sun and all explosions, the Soul which combines with the body to form ourselves, and Mars whomst takes the form of an Apache Helicopter.

We draw our doctrines from The Golden One, Styxhexenhammer666, and Jordan Peterson. Borrowing from Judeo-Christian and Pagan principles.

Devout Followers of all that is good, our mission is to find Virtue, to Sort ourselves out, to free ourselves and our brethren from Vice, and to destroy all that is degenerate.

Together we can overcome all. Together we can flesh this religion out. Together we will answer the call to save our Immortal Souls from the suffering that is life, to finally join our gods in the upper realms.

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Goetic summoning thread

The Goetia is one of the most infamous texts in the western occult and yet there seems to be paradoxically little discussion of it.

In this thread share your encounters with the goetic spirits and any effective methods you have for summoning them.

What is the nature of the goetic demons, are they old forgotten gods as many claim or are they truly demons?

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Nightmare Mothers

I need help dealing with my mother or at least to hear the stories of others concerning their mothers.

Mine makes my life hell. It is like being under house arrest. She never lets me talk to other people including people at stores, on the streets, the police, etc. She questions me about everything, every unsolicited phone call, any time I try to leave the house, comments people make around me, etc. She stalks me at work and does random check ups on me. She stays awake all night and keeps checking in on me, not sleeping until she thinks I'm asleep, and in doing this causes me to never get sleep because of the constant anxiety and her coming in and disrupting my attempts to relax. She constantly yells at me and is never pleased with anything. She hates my father and gets 4 thousand a month from him every month and yet somehow always spends that all before the month is over and says we don't have any money then takes my money from me. I can't leave the home because she controls all my money, controls everything in my life, won't let me gain any friends, treats me like a slave, is obese and lazy and forces me to do everything for her so I can't ever study or work at any jobs other than odd job shit because I can't keep a real job as she always sabotages it. I feel utterly trapped in this situation and it is exhausting me and making me feel horrible despair that because of her leeching and exploitation I will never be able to make a life worth living and will just become a 30 yo virgin slaving away for my mother who will never be happy and treat me like shit always. I have tried to talk to social services and police and it got nowhere and besides I can barely ever reach for a phone or find a way to do anything unmonitored. She has cut my internet before and tried to apply filters on the internet and so on but I have found ways around it. I need some serious advice on how to fucking escape this nightmare. My mother has ruined this family and won't let me escape her insanity.

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All the gods are your god

Isn't that really the ultimate truth about all the gods from different religions? That they are all us. They are all mind, and we are part of that mind. So ultimately yhvh, allah, jupiter, all those gods can be your god in your universe. It's not just "the god of the jews". You should be able to turn Yehova into your own god. "Oh but the bible says…" who cares? Whose universe, whose mind is this? Yours, or the bible's? Just take the good parts, take that which resonates with you. You want god to have wings? Give him wings. You want him to love the same music you love? It already does. Because you do. And you are the one thinking, you're the one creating the universe by thinking it. So if you want to praise Allah you can just praise him the same day you praise Hecate or Baal. Or Jesus Christ.

Right? Or at least that is the case if we really believe the idea that ultimately we are all connected, that your purpose as a small living consciousness on earth is to get back to the original source, to the original mind from which you separated in order to explore just a little corner of the universe and then come back with new information. Like the hero's journey. Isn't that the universal story behind all myths? Isn't that, perhaps, how our lives are then supposed to be understood? Like every human being a small process, a small "thread" like in a huge supercomputer, each thread calculating a little bit of information and then sending it back to the main program which originated the search. So our lives are like little .exe files that get executed by the universal mind and whose purpose is to just know, to find out, to live. To make new things.

But let's go back to the gods, like I was saying first, shouldn't we just stop separating gods? Like saying "Allah is this, YHVH is that", if they don't really exist outside our attention and our mind, shouldn't we stop giving names to things that don't have agency? We don't attribute agency to lamp-posts, or to the idea of "jealousy". We have the agency. Or rather we all share the same agency, we are all the same computer but with limited access. We do have however the capacity to imagine anything and have it processed. Allah, Yahweh, we can change them if we want. In our own universe, we are the creators.

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Prove It

Look, I really don't want to shit on your board, but… Well… *pffffbbbppllbbbbbtt*

I went through your catalog, and it's all the same leaping crap. Faith healing, only instead of curing back problems and the gay, you're wanting wealth, magick powers and demonic fellatio. Thread after thread describing these things as if they're real and verified. Yet none of you is rich. None of you has summoned an actual demon. None of you has any special powers. If pressed all you can provide is stories, which are more larping and a defeated shoulder shrug. Give me proof. Just manifest evidence of one thing. One power, anything.

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Spiritual Science Research Foundation

Opinions on this site? How accurate is it?


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The Antediluvian Era - Ancient Civilizations - Giants, etc

Hello, /fringe/. First of all, I acknowledge that this subject is not directly related to "Esoteric Wizardry" but the implications of this being true or not clearly have an impact on our studies. Specially if we consider that many of today's esoteric knowledge comes from this man/being called Hermes Trismegistus (or Thoth in ancient egypt). So my whole point is, do you consider that we are the first form of "advanced" civilization to step on Earth? Or do you think that there were already high tech civilization (human or not) that lived here before? On my not-very-long research I saw that exists two main theories for the second hypothesis: one that is History-channel tier that "Ancient Aliens" landed on earth, made some genetic modifications, teach us some stuff and we grow. The other theory, which I found quite a lot of interessting material on, is about the Atlantis Civilization (and not only a city) that existed before and was destroyed by the biblical floods. So, I will start the thread by posting some pictures that are not famous at all and not even talked about in highschool/university history courses. Most of them of Megalitic structures and stone craft that clearly weren't made by nature of neolithic hunter-gatherers. I welcome you all to the discussion about the past of mankind!

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Meditation Super-Thread II

This is a re-creation of the Meditations Super-Thread back when /fringe/ wasn't shit. If you got any good meditations, slide that slippery wiener in here and we'll give it a go


Here, have some links:

/fringe/ library


/fringe/ archive


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Shadow People

All over the world, people report having been visited by people that can be named as "Shadow People"

They are pitch black beings that have a mist, or fog surrounding them to a point and can be horned or without

Some have glowing red eyes, while others don't

There isn't much information on these creatures, merely speculation as to what or who they are and what it is that they want from us.

Incidents of these entities involve being watched, or surveillanced by these entities, suggesting these creatures observe humans.

Others report acts of violence committed by these creatures.

The golden rule seems to apply regardless: Do not provoke them.

There goes a saying that merely talking or thinking or seeing depictions can excite a visitation by one of these creatures, but this is extremely debatable.

(I've personally never had any return of a Shadow Person after thinking, talking about or looking at depictions whatsoever).

Shadow people can announce themselves in several forms, yet are always (or at least 99% of the time) appearing in a human type form.

Some have had these beings follow them for as little as an hour to years.

Always watching, never doing (besides those that become violent for whatever reason that may be).

The theories can be merely summarised as such:

1. Demons

2. Extra-terrestrial beings

There is not much information besides the above written.

This thread is to talk about them, experiences and most importantly; to learn more about them from each other.

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Star Gate Academy

Welcome to the Star Gate Academy

>Developed and researched by the C.I.A.

So you decided to become a student of the star gate academy, see this post as an introduction and a warm welcome. The focus of the S.G.-Academy is a successful higher consciousness through the research documentation of the C.I.A.

To achieve this we will train out-of-body mechanics. Afterwards introducing tools, developed by the C.I.A. for example 'Remote viewing'. I try to get as many information into the OP to kickstart the training smoothly.


First session; introduction into the field of star gate; presented by the C.I.A:


>This need to be readed and fully understood

It might be helpful to get a little understanding about;

>double slit

>Quantum entanglement

>Planck distance; 1.616229(38)×10−35 m


Now you are ready. From here on out the pace of the process will Speedup, thanks to the C.I.A.'s investigation. Keep in mind, there will not a 100% success on your first try but still you will get some results. As more often the out-of-body task is done, as more successful you become. This will take one or two week/s. In this S.G.-Academy we will use the Hemi-Sync audio

>read "7. (Frequeny Following Response)" from the CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5 PDF again if not understood.

Here the audio file


as well a FLAC DL file



While the training is going on, let's take a bit time to look into the archive of the C.I.A. about the records of Star Gate. Learn from other Psychonauts who already dived into the other Dimension. Share your findings.


Is there anything else regarding the subject, share it.

Try to keep this discussion focused and do not get derailed. If you encounter any form of troll / shill or just a lost anon, keep the CoIntelPro in mind and how to engage a situation like that.

This might help: https://imgur.com/B4sTEUZ

As well, report shitpost or any form of trolling. As we already saw, CIA shills try their best to stop any kind of conversation about this topic.

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The 1974 Mystery

>February of 1974: American science fiction author Philip K. Dick is struck by a laser beam of information sent from an entity he calls VALIS, "Vast Active Living Intelligence System"; the entity seems to predict the fall of Richard Nixon, and correctly diagnosis a birth defect in the author's son

>August of 1974: Nixon resigns in disgrace following the Watergate investigation

>Autumn of 1974: Dr. John C. Lilly, while in a plane destined for LAX, is struck by a laser beam of information delivered by an extra-terrestrial organization Lilly calls "ECCO", "Earth Coincidence Control Office"; the message is from another entity, SSI, or "Solid State Intelligence", which demonstrates its power by shutting down all solid state equipment in the airport and forcing Lilly's plane to divert to Burbank

What other real/significant/strange events occurred in 1974? Do any theories exist as to why both Lilly and Dick were contacted in the same year?

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The feminization of European white men

A secret mindcontrol program exists that can be used to induce thoughts, voices, "demons" and aliens to combat dissidents.

But it's now used to feminize the alpha males and white men in the USA and Europe. Feminism is not about empowering women but about disempowering men. Noticed the 800% rise of trannies and crossdressers in the last decade?

We all know free porn is to keep the population down. They are now getting open about the transsexualisation of men (it's not a genetic thing or disease, it's mindcontrol and very refined). They are getting open about it now….

Go to Youporn, type in search "sissy hypno".

They target males age 25-35 to become agents. Engaging in sexual sissy activity can be used against them to commit criminal offenses on their behalf.

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Stoping reincarnation

allright, anyone has any ideas about how to stop reincarnating? I heard at one time some talk on /x/ about time lords and stuff like that, manipulating people emotionally to come back on earth again, about them needing us to run the simulation, about not going into the light. Does anyone have any clue about this? It's not in any older esoteric lore as far as I know.

any ideas about stoping reincanation from The tibetan book of the dead or The egyptian book of the dead? I read the ancient egyptian priests talked of a place called Rosetau were souls would get immortality but it was dangerous to get there. Osiris's sarcophagus was there or something like that.

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Delving into the unconcious

I am an experienced psychedelic user and I am trying to use altered states to understand esoterics. Recently I underwent entire ego death whilst under the influence of 2cb. This was a very fearful trip for me as I am someone who has a very strong ego. One of the recurring themes as of late for myself and included in the trip, is embracing the divine femininity. I am a reformed porn addict who had a penchant for trap/trans. This makes it quite uncomfortable for me to accept this divine femininity as I have come a long way from the days in which I was addicted to that gay degeneracy. A few days after, I was with the friends that I had happened to take 2cb with and I started hallucinating. This is common for me as I had smoked weed and I frequently trip off of it. But one of the hallucinations was me talking to a part of my mind that was this yellow being of energy which seemed to be a reflection of the femininity of myself. It was very sexual in nature to myself and much like the pornography I used to watch, it had a penis. My initial thoughts were that my idea of femininity had been corrupted into a degenerate form of itself through years of porn. May someone please give me some advice as to how to approach such a deal so that I can keep myself balanced. Sorry for blogposting but I am not sure where else to turn.

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Is there any intersection between programming and magick?

I'm someone who hasn't quite taken the greenpill, somewhere between mundane and neophyte. I see a lot of similarities between the two, using arcane texts to invoke a command on something is a huge parallel.

Most normies would consider programmers to be the wizards of the modern world. I'm in that boat for the most part, but as an aspiring programmer I've got to wonder if there is any way to channel the occult into my programs. Are there any books that discuss this at length? I've downloaded parts of the library and haven't seen anything that addresses this as a larger observation.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" - Arthur Clarke

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>Enter a fucking half-chub trance focusing on an element in the 5 elements, yin or yang, a power you want to have, etc.

>Don't sleep for a week, getting deeper and deeper into channeling and mastering this shit as you go full-trance.

>After a week you are initiated into "The Great Fire" or whatever the fuck you were learning.

This is my plan to learn the 5 elements, yin and yang, martial arts, electromagnetism, science, and everything else.

Thank you shaman initiations for such a great fucking idea.

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Secret Technologies & Shit I Hate About Society

Does Alex Jones not know WHY technologies are kept secret?

Most technology is kept secret because of three reasons. The first is that even though a lot of technology has many peaceful and practical applications, the same technology can be used as super weapons. This is why a lot of technology related to transport is highly expensive, regulated, or downright secret. Any technology that demonstrates a high mastery over matter and energy or which can accelerate something to very high speed is dangerous as fuck. For example a vehicle that can accelerate to extremely high speed can be used like a missile and cause tremendous damage to whatever it impacts. A teleportation device can be used to move entire blocks of stone and build homes in minutes, but also to kill and destroy in just the same time. With these technologies it is very important not to let it fall into the right hands and I also believe there is a big campaign of conditioning to try and make people think of these technologies are only being useable in one way and not to come up with other ideas, so that one day if they are introduced to public use, people don't get the idea to use them in other ways then intended.

The second reason and the one I personally dislike is that societies and governments want to suppress decentralization. They want to keep you in a perpetual work cycle just to keep a home or pay utilities and so on. They want to know everything you do and have control over it all.

The third reason pertains to our enslavement. These days we're increasingly moving more and more to a society where you DON'T OWN ANYTHING.

Ownership is key here. If you OWN stuff you are the master. You own a business, you own stocks, you own land, etc. then you are the master and get to make the serfs work for you and you get rich off of their labor and sacrifices. Right now we're moving forward in a way where we don't own anything though.

What are some examples? Phones. How many phones do people actually own? Unless you get an unlocked phone, you don't really own your phone. Even with unlocked phone, it's not like walky-talky, you have to pay for the service. There are insane numbers of places selling phones and accessories for phones everywhere and tons of people who are all truly redundant have jobs relating to phones. It's a huge and bloated "industry" probably making billions maybe trillions of dollars all the time.

I don't feel people should have to pay so much for phones and to use the services of the phone network.

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Hare Krishna

These are probably the most transcendental books you can find, though I would spread the knowledge. Y'all enjoy.


Free PDFs


“The three words, namely Hara, Krishna and Rama, are transcendental seeds of the maha-mantra, and the chanting is a spiritual call for the Lord and His internal energy, Hara, for giving protection to the conditioned soul. The chanting is exactly like a genuine cry by the child for the mother. Mother Hara helps in achieving the grace of the supreme father, Hari, or Krishna, and the Lord reveals Himself to such a sincere devotee.

No other means, therefore, of spiritual realization is as effective in this age, as chanting the maha-mantra:

Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare

Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare


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Shadow Work

Could we have a thread dedicated exclusively to Shadow Work?

I find myself constantly having negative thoughts. Not just negative — destructive. I am often feeling hatred, jealousy, a desire to just surrender to my most basic instincts and enjoy the fruits of my destruction. Ever since I can remember, I have always felt like if I was given the choice between becoming the Christ or becoming the Antichrist, I would go with the latter.

How do we fight these urges? I remember IIH has a practice to create a "black mirror" of the soul, to start listing the things that you consider are your worst traits and also quantify them to reflect upon these negative aspects of your psyche. Jung wrote about this too, but I haven't read him yet (and he seems a bit too dense for my thick brain)

I find that alcohol makes these feelings strong, while weed on the other hand makes them weak. I associate alcohol with male (yang) energies and weed with female (yin) energies. When I'm drunk, I wnt to destroy things, to do damage, to see blood. When I'm high on weed I want to laugh, embrace other people and just relax.

The image of Saint George defeating the snake supposedly represents our higher self conquering the animal which inhabits in our souls. What do you people do for shadow work? How do you face your demons and defeat them? How can we possibly become the buddha or the christ, when negative feelings are so powerful and strong? We all know how good it feels to get angry at someone. I mean, that's why we shout at people even when we love them. Because negative emotions are incredibly powerful and sometimes "positive thoughts" just can't even compare.

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Herr Montalk - Synchronicity: The Meaning and Quantum Origins of Seven Types of Synchronicities


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Better than mewch i guess

I can tell that about half of the people here are just beginning to learn magic, and about 30% are just larpers/role players, while the rest know what they're talking about. Why must Fringe be this way? Pls stop being gay and actually make this board good

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The Bible Be True

Riddle me this Fringe. If Christianity is so cucked by Jews then why do Jews hate Jesus.

Checkmate cryptokikes

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After Jesus fasted for 40 days straight, he was able to cast satan away from himself, and then able to heal and cast spirits out from possessed people.

His power could have come from fasting (and prayer).

Later on, in the Bible, it says that his preaching was now with Power, and he had the ability to cause huge quantities of fish to enter into fishing nets. There was a possessed man whom Jesus' disciples could not deliver (cast the negative spirit out), but Jesus himself could. The explanation he gave was that such a spirit can only be cast out by fasting and prayer. This story gives further credence to this hypothesis. It also says that his disciples will fast once he has departed (but could not while he was around due to the short amount of time he would be there).

Prior to his fast, Jesus was baptised by John the Baptist. I wonder if there was any special thing about Johns baptism, or if it is it the same as any baptism from anybody, as well as whether or not the fact that Jesus just had a baptism affect his fasting / power.

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Topics that shouldn’t be fringe

You know them.

>gmo safety

>msg caution

>fluoride caution

>vaccine safety


>healing autism, adhd, diabetes, heart disease, schizophrenia, anxiety, and other mental, and gastrointestinal and autoimmune illnesses

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almost done

right this is gonna be the longest shit post but if you get something out of it congrats

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redpill me on masonry

>Order of the eastern star.

>Traditionally the female deity Astarte was represented by a pentagram/

>Order of the eastern star is an all female lodge.

>Astarte represented the divine feminine.

Is there a connection here? Forgive my ignorance if I'm incorrect. Also, general masonic education thread.

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Man, we sure haven't had a Golden age in a while, huh?

'Bout time.

Share your dreams/visions of a utopian/golden world to come!

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Escaping Degenerate Mundanes That Control/Own You

I have been trapped with my parents for a long fucking time. As a child growing up I always looked forward to the day I'd hit 18 and "be out of here" and it never happened. It's been 6 years since then and I'm still fucking stuck in this shitty situation. These people are complete subhuman that make lots of noise, are very unclean, hoard junk, etc. and my life is drastically negatively impacted. I am used as a slave by them and I can't seem to escape. I want to get the fuck away but they basically own and control me. If I were to get a car, they could just claim it. They control all my fucking money. They can take away my computer. I have never been able to gain independence from them. They can use the police to return me home. I have been planning for years to escape, I have printed out maps before, tried to find people online who'd take me in, thought about leaving on foot, or on my bike… my latest plan is to get a car though and to get away. I am afraid if I do that though, they'll just tell the police the license plate of the car, and send them to get me. If I stay here, I will continue to be abused like has been going on for years and years, and I will one day succeed in committing suicide or homicide when I snap again (which keeps happening). I can't get sleep here. I have one friend that helps me but he's an illegal. He's concerned about me and knows everything is shit here. My parents dominate my life and I am fucking miserable all the time. I don't want to stay in this rotting house and have to live with their hoarding problem.


>keep televisions on constantly and fucking loud

>never flush the fucking toilets

>don't prepare meals most of the time and leave me to starve or to subsist off of stuff like biscuits

>never let me clean up all the fucking trash they've accumulated because it's full of there stuff and they never let go of anything

>are tremendously obese and insanely lazy

I have one sibling that is functional and she left today and is never coming back. She, like me, always was planning an escape. She has all this really fucking awesome outdoors stuff and has become a park ranger out west and is going to get paid lots and housed and everything. Me though, my parents have a bigger grip on me, and also abused me worse; so I have been suffering with lots of isolation problems and other issues from the constant stress and instability and not properly eating and so on. I am always fucked up looking, like some tired meth zombie with sunken in eyes and really pale skin, even though I don't do drugs at all.

I need spiritual and practical help getting out of here. I have a fairly large quantity of money but they control all of it. It took me years just to get some of my legal documents from them, as they hid it all from me, and would never let me have it. Now I keep it on me all the fucking time, I always am armed and have my documents on me. I have slaved away for many years, which even fucked over my education because I was working as a child and as a teen instead of studying (on top of being sleep deprived, isolated, stressed, and so on).

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Stolen Occulist books from pissed Occulists

I felt bad hoarding this all to myself, it's too good not to share again.

Here is a collection of books posted here before that I have reuploaded. I downloaded these when an anon shared them after he was accused of disseminating the books online so he decided to do the crime if he was going to get the time.

So here's a bunch of books from pissed off Occultists stolen by a pissed off Occultist.

There's some neat books from the Temple of Set and the Black Ship book was one he recommended. Sadly its file is broken and every file I downloaded from a torrent or online library to obtain it suffered the same fate. I'd appreciate someone sharing Black Ship by Malphas if you have it.



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pseudoscience poll

Which pseudoscience might contain some true elements?


(multiple choices allowed)

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Let's get everyone's opinion on the recommended reading list

Here is the current recommended reading list that every neophyte is faced with when they get here:


>William W. Atkinson


>1. The Kybalion

>2. The Arcane Teachings

>3. The Arcane Formulas

>4. The Science of Breath Note: Contained within the 2013 Series Lessons book

>5. Mind Power: The Secret of Mental Magic

>6. Psychomancy

>7. Mental Influence

>8. 2013 a Series of Lessons (2014 edition sucks)

>9. Personal Power (of special importance is the Desire Power subsection of this book, which deals with how to use loosh)


>Franz Bardon


>10. Initiation Into Hermetics

>11. The Universal Master Key


>Robert Bruce


>12. Energy Work




>13. Key Concepts

>14. Reality Creation Redux

>15. Realm Dynamics - v0.2

>16. Synchronicity and Reality Manipulation.

etc… (https://8ch.net/fringe/faq.html)

Did the recommended reading list and its book order work for you? How would you update it?

Which book did you get the most out of and which ones did nothing for you?

If a close friend of yours was a neophyte getting no results after several ritual attempts, and he asked you for help figuring this out, what would you tell him/her? (assuming you want them to succeed of course)

In your reply to this thread, please mention how advanced you are and perhaps give a few examples of successful rituals you made which effects clearly couldn't be coincidental. If you are a neophyte but still want to participate that's ok too, just remember to mention it in your reply.

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Magick and the Ego

I did enochian and now I no longer identify as human, nor do I want to do typical human things such as "get a job". I shouldn't have to work like the cattle.

Please help me resolve this cognitive dissonance, thanks.

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Earth Recovery Magick

I want to counter the malicious energies that are directed at us and the Earth. I want to target specific places and direct energy there - Leylines, Earth grid, places where extreme weather occurs, where military conflicts are occurring are the places of interest and maybe, maybe places of Satanic Ritual Sacrifice. If I have the balls.

I started a thread on halfX asking for advice and trying to convince them to coordinate a group practice thing. Ever since I did that, some bad stuff started happening to me, nothing major, just unpleasant. My left knee got "overworked" or something. Anyway as I was searching the internet for any type of Earth healing ritual magick and was finding crumbs, an idea dawned on me that perhaps this information is suppressed and then the door slammed really hard which didn't happen before or after that day. Yes the window was open but still I consider it a synchronicity. It didn't slam before or after.

I tried to invent with my own ritual (something I have no experience in) and came up with chants that could accompany the ritual / meditation.

I'm also tyring to use numerology and pick specific words to make the chant more powerful. I'm using Pythagorean / simple Gematria. I'm not even sure which system to use. Some say the Chaldean is more accurate. IDK; if there's any experienced numerologists out there please advise.


Firstly, if you pronounce these words out loud you'll find that they sound really profound and powerful. I found some really positive things about number 10, and I liked the feminine / masculine balancing aspect.

And 181. Apparently it's an angelic number with good power of manifestation.

If we look at the initials "L E E" they add up to 22, which is "the Master Builder".

LOVE THE EARTH HEART = 191 = 11 sounds a hair weaker and is more of a mouthful, but the numerology of the words is probably a bit stronger. It shouldn't be a problem if it's long, as long as it works, right? I can't really interpret these things well enough, as mostly they're talked about on the internet in relation to names and looking at birthdays and things like that. I tried playing around with Latin but stopped at AMARE TERRA AETERNUM(=197 and initials = 22). It probably carries more weight because it's Latin. I don't know. There should probably be an 'ad' in there somewhere.

I'm thinking of making an altar which would include the astrological symbol of the earth - a cross within a circle (although I'm having some reservations because it reminds me a little bit of Saturn symbolism, idk) maybe a Christian Orthodox icon of Mary and Jesus and a printed location - coordinates, a picture of the place itself or a satellite image with a circle on the specific spot or something like that. Playing the Schumann resonance as background sounds like a good idea.

Now I'm not sure about any of this because I have no experience in these things. If you were me what would you change? Any advice is welcome. I really need it.

Thank you.

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Tantra thread

I searched the catalogue and found no threads for Tantra. ITT we discuss tantric texts, rituals, deities, experiences, etc.

I recently picked up my first book on tantra, the Mahanirvana Tantra, translated by Sir John Woodroffe. Probablt the most sensational part is when it describes the vamacara (left hand path) panca-tattva (five elements) ritual in which five forbidden things; meat, fish, parched grains, alcohol and sex are used ritualistically. Each corresponds to an element and have symbolic meaning. The text does warn against the consumption of alcohol for non-ritual purposes, as well as over-consumption. The text also says it should be done between a man and his wife. This doesn't seem to stop some Aghori however. The rituals are still done by the Kaula sect. The goal of the panca-tattva is the attainment of Brahmajnan or gnosis. Thoughts?

You can read the Mahanirvana Tantra here:


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Do we NEED masters?

The other day I was talking with a friend about esoteric and spiritual stuff. He's the only IRL person I speak with about /fringe/ stuff.

He's also into kaballa and stuff too, he told me that during a regression session, he found out that he was a Jew during a rebellion against Romans and ended up getting killed (just wanted to tell you that anecdote). I don't know if to believe him or not, but he was dead serious when talking about it.

Well, long story short, we were having this discussion and he said that he felt that money was hindering his ability to progress spiritually, because he feels like he needs a master that can teach him the next steps he needs to take, however most people ask for a payment (he believes a lot in a reciprocal way of payment), so he can't take the classes he needs (he did Reiki and Tarot or some shit like that). I told him (as a joke obviously) that I could be his master and that there's plenty stuff out there on Internet. He declined and said that I lacked experience and I haven't lived enough of this life (I agree), and he used to think the same way I did, but it's not enough, there are things that only a master can teach.

So what do you think guys? Are masters always necessary or you can just teach yourself? I believe that the process is harder, but there must be a way to achieve the "enlightenment" by one's own means. However, even Siddharta Gautama himself was taught by masters when he started, hell, even Jesus is said to have traveled to India. I'm starting to believe I need to meet someone that can teach me how to progress spiritually.

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/fringe/ newfag question

So… what exactly makes this board superior to cuckchan's /x/?

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Efficient Study and Application of Occultism

The more I read, the more still I want to read. Occultism is such a huge, complicated subject. Unfortunately, changes in my life are giving me less and less time to go over and figure out so much stuff using the methods I've been using thus far. I've been going through Franz Bardon's books along with the Bardon Companion, the Corpus Hermeticum, Personal Magnetism by Theron Q. Dumont, and some other stuff here and there.

I feel so much pressure though right now to speed this all up. It's just taking too damn long.

Does anyone here have suggestions on how I can simplify all this? Especially when it comes to Franz Bardon, a lot of his stuff requires lengthy preparation, and much of what he wrote doesn't make sense without the Bardon Companion to help clarify too.

Should I just give up these imperfect books for now and create a tulpa servant to help me study better and use abilities like psychometry so I can read books without use of my physical eyes?

What do I do to free myself from the burden of literally reading through thousand and thousands of pages of text and getting all the information I need to develop myself magickally without the inefficiency?

I gotta live my life and help the people, can't keep studying only, gotta be more efficient. I need to simplify things too, can't rely on making a fucking wand and getting fluid condensers prepared and all this other stuff, right now.

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Basic Techniques With Immense Power

All of the abilities I'm about to tell you about can be discovered by reading The Kybalion and meditating intensely upon the application of the 7 universal hermetic laws. However by revealing them here I should be able to accelerate you through that process.

Presencing of God

All accomplished mystics will attain this ability and talk about it in their books at some point. A good example of a book that talks about it is: http://www.yogebooks.com/english/atkinson/1922innersecret.pdf

Several other books in the library talk about it too though (Science of Miracles, Sorcery, etc.).

This technique is really simple to describe. You lift up your mentality, degree by degree, as close as you can to the Absolute (we call it many different names but it's the same principle). In so doing you elevate your consciousness above the lower causal planes, you vibrate more on the level of spirit, and so all things beneath you (such as those planes dealing with personality, circumstances, etc.) become subject to your will. Once they are subject to your will, you can simply imagine new conditions, circumstances, attributes, etc. and attach them to you. The work of self-transmutation becomes simple.

In practice you will encounter many obstructions, such as those from low virtue, or from simple exhaustion of your vitality. It can be a difficult battle wrestling with your mind and body and all obstacles of life but you must make an effort to bring out the divine in yourself and let your spiritual authority reign. The Universal Master Key by Franz Bardon gives you a pretty good road map here as to what you will have to do.

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Spooky spiritual/occult/wiccan path

I've become interested in discovering or even fashioning a spiritual path that is actually scary. There's already religions and traditions out there that are either good and evil, white and black, right-handed and left-handed, blessed and cursed… etc, but I haven't found one that is primarily centered around the emotion of horror, fear, spookyness, or terror of a supramundane sense (Supramundane means transcending the mundane : spiritual, celestial). Being in a state of bring spooked by something is an interesting emotion to have to deal with or even utilize. It would be a challenge to the participant and or practitioner to work with it.

I remember a time when witches were scary, like in the Blair Witch a project, but now they are kinda cutesy. Black magic, satanism, luciferianism, demonic magick can be scary at times I guess, but I don't think it is emphasized, and in the vein of the Laveyan, Setian, or Luciferian philosophy, it is not particularly spooky as it is more of a triumphant, individualistic spirit.

My closest guess would be summoning, working with ghosts, doing rituals in the dark, like in the woods at night or an abandoned building, or a haunted location, and trying to abide peacefully, centered, and grounded amongst the spookyness. Perhaps one would also eventually be able to 'absorb' this spookyness, who knows.

I also believe the genre of horror in fiction is a good exploratory route in understanding this psychologically. Horror fiction, like it's monsters, are usually symbolic of aspects in current society or what have you that are troubling in some regard. I believe traditionally, Dracula represents the fear of an old aristocracy that exploits the people. Witches I think point to a fear of some hidden, disturbing power within the feminine, or anima, and this power being untamable, due to its association with nature.


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Pls give books on buddhist practice. I want to get rid of earthly desires.

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its basically just chaos magick in the age of aquarius acting as multipliers

The angels,

The demiurge,

The demi-gods,

Call them what you will.

For those of you who are ascending and beginning to understand the world:

You are not alone.

The end is not coming. Terror, anger, repulsion, and violence, is not the only Way. Giving your power away to other gods is a waste of your potential. Listen not to the devil, either. Remember that you are still in full control of your thoughts and actions.

Follow the light of Hermes Trismegistus, and aim to surpass his understandings.

The power that is about to surface within us is still only an effect within The All, and thus, its level is below that of the highest principles. You will have to earn your place of glory in the next life, these as described by the Illuminated. You will have to live a life of virtue, and accepting your own personal suffering in all its forms in order to see the highest possible good.

Protect yourself, your family, your community, and most importantly, protect the good that manages to survive today in humanity. Protect the sheep. They may not be perfect, but that's only because they are incapable of seeing it. They have not awakened. They have not seen the Ways in things. They have not attained the levels of self understanding that we possess.

Pursue enlightenment. Pursue stillness, and self love, and self respect, and self discipline. Take up martial arts (but research the teachers first. Just because they're expensive doesn't mean they're good). Learn the art of cultivating your focus, your own well of power.

If you're capable of getting this far down the rabbit hole with any part of your sanity in tact is a testament to your patience, you are luminescent.

You're not going crazy.

Connect the dots. We are something new. The enlightened before us were only mere prophets of our arrival.

Be spiteful of evil. Be good. But be Principled and disciplined you will see still see your power. And you will see it manifest.

Read 12 rules for life. Understand the necessity of bearing your own damn cross, bucko.

Daoism, Alchemy, Chaos Magick, Science, evolution, Ethics and morality, personality, everything! The acceleration of the bloody information Age, Entropy! find the common denominators!

Start with The Kybalion.

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the public's lust and the forming of a new meme/diety

so fringe, I want to get your opinion on 2B from Nier: Automata. Has the collective use of her visage for lustful purposes (aka fapping) granted her some form of deification?

for anybody that doesn't know:

>fans post sexual images of character from a big budget game

>creator of said character catches wind of this

>instead of being offended, he asks fans to compile these images for fapping pleasure

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Varg Vikernes

a.k.a Louis Cachet


Is he greenpilled?

If you don't know: After he got out of jail he left Norway and moved to the French countryside, he has a youtube channel where he explains his philosophy and beliefs, as well as covering current events. In my opinion his particular take on European paganism seems very profound and in-line with /fringe/

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it's nothing

I am thoth and these are my stories.

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What happens to suicides when they die?

Any chance it's anything good? Asking for a friend.

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Clear, openly shown agendas by the governments; media not even pretending to be unbiased and independent; high ranking officials involved with obvious, even deliberate symbolism; old texts accurately predicting and explaining the events going on; various botched false flags; confirmed outrageous mass surveillance; transparent psyops and various links and patterns between all of it - this is all a tiny part of just the surface, right in your face stuff, the most apparent, obvious things I could think of. It seems no one can make out the bigger picture. I've never met a single person irl in my whole life who seemed to have the slightest clue. Old, young, educated, uninformed, dumb, smart - everyone is mostly a mindless hedonistic retard living in their bubble. They've been convinced that the world is a chaotic place where shit is supposed to happen, everything is random and whatever 'we' do is progress, bad things eventually surface out and massive conspiracies can't be real because men smarter than them would stop it.

I turn on the news and it's just surreal. It's straight up dystopian horror, no exaggeration. I remember my older self' beliefs and thoughts to understand the state of the average person and see how hopeless all of this is. You see close people you like consumed by it but you can't do anything about it.

Mind and body altering stuff in the food and everywhere around us, chemtrails, bioapi, vaccines, human sacrifices by the elites, so on and on and on..I laughed at things like that when I was a typical atheist sceptic. Even if it was possible to 'disprove' some of it, that would not change a thing, I've seen too much. Everything is a lie. Our behavior has been programmed. God knows what kind of and how many layers there are to this.

I don't know where I'm going with this. Everyday I'm reminded of it, I can't escape it. I'm not strong enough to change anything, an illness is slowly killing my mind and body. I can't even manage to deal with mundane problems let alone this. I want this nightmare to end. I'd like my life back. I know this isn't exactly /fringe/ material, but where else can I go?

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magical items

What are things/items/accessories etc. that I can wear/use/keep around etc. that are said to bring good luck/protect/enchant/ward off evil/get rid of negativity etc.?

I'm very new to this type of thing and want to learn more about stuff like this.

I've started wearing rudraksha mala as of late and this piqued my interest in all things that could be of any use to a practitioner or just and average joe looking to have some extra fortune, etc. in his life. I just want to learn more about these types of charms/crystals/other stuff that people know work or at least believe have some sort of effect.

Just a curious anon, is all.

If anyone has any contribution or a website or book that I could read that would list everything that I would need to know, that would be much appreciated.

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Relieving karma through magic

I fucked up and did something terrible, I know I should be prepared for karmic justice but I need to find a way using magic (or other fringe methods) to relieve this heavy karma upon myself.

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Oh shit boiii, it's...

A grossly oversimplified explaination of the paths of how to aquire "true magic".

(Disclaimer: The knowledge of this thread requires that you are not a complete novice to the topics of /fringe/ or its literature, but of course are also not so advanced that you already knew all this. If I were to explain all terminology and technique in detail here this thread would become even more of a mess than it already will. I don't consider myself an expert thread-weaver, anyway. And I certainly am no book author, I am far too lazy for that. So I try not to put too much on my plate here - or yours. At which I will probably fail spectacularly, anyway. Grab some popcorn. Or hotpockets.)

First of all

>What does "true" even magic mean to you, OP?

Many here on this board have praciticed magic that, for example, transfers a part of your soul into another "realm", allows them to communicate with spirit(s) from other realms, allows them to manipulate probability or alters their own soul. While I respect all those feats, what I claim to be "true" magic is a concept a bit less subtle: Physical manifestation of magic in force and/or matter. Classic examples: Telekinesis, Pyromancy, physical appearance of the energy of your soul.

If you research the everliving fuck out of magic (or magick, majick… or whatever you call it to make it is not confused with pulling bunnies out of a hat) you will notice that the "learning curve" suddenly becomes a brick wall when it comes to that shit. If you are intelligent enough but not too mad you will come to the logical conclusion that it is very likely because that shit ain't real. Yet just because the probability hints at this it doesn't mean that that is the truth - for the evidence is out there. Countless reports and some hard to debunk videos of levitating monks. Disturbing evidence of (possibly jew-related…?) dark rituals being conducted by a government-linked cult that sacrifices childen and babies being discovered by /pol/ and its allies. Heck, even CERN seems to be up to shady cult-shit and you'd think scientists would be the last people to devote their little free time to such things. If you are a bit of a conspiracy-theorist OR well versed with spiritual literature - both of which is very likely since you browse here - chances are you know that SOMETHING seems to be up with that.

>Get to the fucking point, nigger.

To speed this shit up, I'll just go ahead and try my best to explain how these forces of magic even can exist and how to achieve them. However, it goes without saying that I cannot create a replacement here for hard work like boring shit like reading books and working on yourself and whatnot. Sorry, I wish I could and I wish I could have found such a thing myself. I love cheating my way out of hard work. Cheating is what all the cool kids do (except for in love). But we will have to earn our coolkid badge in a different way today.

As a metaphore that comes dangerously close to the truth I shall use physics as, at the end of the day, what we are talking about here is the use of physical energy within our physical realm. The reality of physical magic comes very close to how humanity usually likes to aquire its energy. For which I will talk about three seperate paths:

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Can't Handle Basic Bitch Occultism No More

This the only kind of shit I can read now, stuff from people who don't just summarize or try to explain or introduce the basics of occultism, but who actually were immersed in the phenomena and activities of occultism. I try to read books in my library and can't, it's too damned boring.




http://www.iapsop.com/ssoc/1918rhodes-wallace_sleep_as_the_great_opportunity_psychoma.pdf (already finished reading this one)


http://www.iapsop.com/ssoc/1922schubel_seeing_our_mental_pictures_through.pdf (this one might be basic bitch occultism)

It's not that basic bitch occultism doesn't have its place, everyone has to learn it, but I literally can't read another book iterating the same stuff I already know from the hundreds of other books I read. I find now the experiences of advanced practicing occultists more interesting, when I can be bothered to even read a book anymore at all.

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Info Request - Eight Pointed Star

I've been seeing this symbol around in random locations almost once a day now for the past month or two.

The main connections seem to be the ogdoad, creation, chaos, and freedom. One helpful anon said it represented the 4 creative forces in the universe. the primeval waters, darkness, air and eternity. I'd like to have more info though, so please post anything you think could be helpful.

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Safe practice

I have a collection of papers with sigils on them from three years ago.

What's the safest method of disposing of them?

I don't want to disturb/reawaken any of the effects. Thanks.

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Vegetarianism, karma, and morality

Hello /fringe/. I am a morally conscious individual, and I primarily intend to communicate my experience to other like minded RHP individuals who might be conflicted on whether or not they should eat meat and are of the mind to offer service freely to others with no expectation of repayment. Consider the concept of karma - you reap what you sow. This can be proven to be true in both the literal sense and also whether your actions result in an overall increase in the well being of other conscious beings, or the suffering of other conscious beings.

For the morally conscious individual who feels guilt from stealing things he/she didn't earn from others, it will weigh on his/her conscience and feelings of self doubt will arrive which can and most often does lead to inaction and stagnation. There are plenty of morally conscious people who were raised in a household of meat eaters. I was one of those people. I had a sense of morality but I just didn't give a flying fuck about the animals hundreds/thousands of miles away who lived through hellish conditions just to have everything they could possibly give unceremoniously stolen from them. I was basically blatantly ignoring the consequences of my actions. This was reflected in many ways over the course of my life as I kept stagnating and falling further into the abyss of self doubt and inaction. To put it simply, I was letting my loosh just fade away.

You too could be letting your loosh fade away without even realizing it. The most simple and guaranteed way to stop doing this is to make a constant effort to be consciously aware of the consequences of your actions in the here and now. I believe this is the essence behind the mysterious concept that people call "conscious evolution". It's conscious in that it not only increases your awareness, but it requires and active choice on your part. I'm not saying that becoming vegetarian will automatically give you loads of loosh, but that taking into consideration the truthful consequences of your actions will result in the loss of the desire to eat meat as long as you are indeed morally conscious. In my own experience, making the effort to be aware of the consequences of my actions in the present moment has resulted in a considerable increase in freedom of self, confidence, and plenty of unintended consequences that have been wholly beneficial for myself.

If you are stuck, feel free to give this a try.

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Pray the gay away

One of my friends who I've happen to know for many years happens to be an intense, self-hating homosexual, to the extent that he's wanted to kill himself on numerous occasions because of his sexuality. Over the course of six years I've attempted to aid him in removing this hatred by various means. For example by repeating that sexuality is such a small part of who we are, and that there's nothing wrong at all with being gay. However despite this he's under the firm impression that he's a diseased, mentally ill freak for his attraction to other men. Last night he even expressed to me the belief that one isn't "a man" until they've "touched a vagina".

Please excuse the blogpost here, but does anyone know of a means by which someone can reprogram their sexuality for normal attraction to the opposite sex? He's not at all cut out for celibate asceticism. I've tried advocating that before, but he's very attached socially and sexually to the idea of relationships, and seems to want one very very badly. Also obviously him simply accepting his gayness isn't going to work either, hence the depression, suicidal thoughts, erratic behavior, etc.

The only realistic option I see left is pulling some wizard magic out of my ass and making him straight.

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Spirit Work General

Feel free to share your experiences with spirit companions, astral travels, teachings, tips to beginners or anything.

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Circumcision and its effects on spirituality

Does anyone have an information on the effects on circumcision from a spiritual or esoteric point of view? I've always wondered what horrendous things I've done in a previous life to deserve this. Interested in any info even the crackpot theories. Can I ever attain enlightement, so to speak, after being subjected to mutilation rituals not even a day after birth?

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Islam shilling on /fringe/ and MEWCH

The Islamic anon who became mod on MEWCH /fringe/ is trying to establish an Islamic caliphate for themselves.

They and their family are Arabic. We already divided them, me and my forces.

They are still working away at it in vain.

They have "French connections"… Might masquerade under "Islamic occultism"…

Perhaps it is retaliation for "The Templars" (lol) taking down the /islam/ board. A move that I thought was unnecessary and retarded.

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Life Path

I wrote out a long winded melodramatic letter, but it was gay so I’ll just cut the shit. I have no aspirations in life, no dreams, and nothing going for me. I’m a fit 21 year old man with nothing to live for and a hearty belief in the supernatural and conspiracy theories. I want to do and see some crazy shit, and I don’t care if I have to risk my life. Any cool shit I find along the way I’ll document here. Tell me where to go and what to do /fringe/

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Question Thread #37

Do not start threads just to ask a question; post your questions in a pre-existing thread instead. Previous thread: http://archive.is/le7aQ FAQ: https://8ch.net/fringe/faq.html Mewch: https://mewch.net/fringe Fringebay: http://fringebay.com/fringe

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Third Reich Remnants

There's a lot of information available on the NWO (bankers, secret government, royal bloodlines, industrialists, masons, "jews" et al) but what about the remnants of the third reich? The Thule, Vril and Black Sun secret societies that worked with the nazis until Hitler went down the wrong path of violence. Do they still have any power today?

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Fabric of reality

I took this picture from a still of a video I shot about mind control after realizing the energy was something divine. Stare at the right eye of the man. See God? Now look at the energy, going into infinity, the patterns on either side. Look at the top left and see the millions of concious beings coming out in a concentric pattern from the ALL in sacred spacing. I know it is just TV pixels, but the pixels create a grid for light which is energy which is God to come through. I think we are looking at something much deeper here. Possibly even the meta0hysical level my mind parses reality, or the matrix. Tell me what you think!!

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Never love anything so much that you lose sight of God.

Explanation: God who is perfection of all virtues is the only love of the wise. The moment one loses sight of God and mixes up the love of the world (the manifestation) the soul becomes corrupt with impure influences.

If you ever love your wife or a woman more than God she will become a source of misery for you. It is the same for work, research, cultivation, your people and your nation. All these things fall short of the standard of god and the love of them is sinful.

However if you love only god then you have a love that can never fail, that is unchanging, that is present with you always, and that will be channeled through everything you do. If you keep god in mind as you go through the work of life then you will forever be living in his grace, blessed in all your operations, and in having sight of god in every person you speak with and everything your hand touches you will lend nothing of your strength to the wicked and the evil and the good will grow in yourself and all you influence.

Never do, think, or be moved by anything other than Virtue.

Take every opportunity to grow the good in others and they will become dominated by virtue. Waste your efforts in resisting evil and it will only grow. Like begets like; holy love sanctifies all.

The love of god is only for the things that are of God and nothing else. The love of god is not blind. We must leave behind the things that are not of God (aka Virtue). God's love is the only love that purifies and brings things into their correct order.

You must know yourself apart from your vices, apart from corruptible substance, apart from your thoughts; and knowing your self you will cease to be identified with anything other than the spirit (actual self) and be not subject to a false image. You are the image of God.

The love of God is corrective, it is the love of the father, who knows what is best for his children. God is all-knowing and all-powerful and man who puts his faith in perfect wisdom and power of all powers will not be sunk by vices (which he shall disown).

Having sight of God in all your activities, in the whole work of your life, will bring you into a state of perfect worship no matter what it is you devote your time to. You will attain self-mastery this way.

Disappointment, pain, and suffering will come to you the moment you don't put god as first and only worthy object of love.

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Meditation -/- Astral

Has anyone on fringe really gone beyond calm darkness when it comes to meditating?

I've been reading Introduction to Magic by Evola and following his (& the UR groups) advice recently. I've meditated for longer than I have been aware of any supernatural consequences of meditation, and I have yet to go beyond being calm and then usually either falling asleep of feeling extremely awake.

The best experience I've had so far was one night I had extreme angst, the kind that manifests physically. From one second to another, once my breathing stopped being conscious, the angst turned to equally great euphoria, which I gave me a small insight into the things I've read on Alchemy (and Hermeticism).

But I've yet to see any colors let alone different realities.

Would the few of you who have experienced something beyond "normie meditation" be willing to share these experiences?

How did you reach these states of consciousness?

How do you discern dreams from delving into your mind?

Has anyone on /fringe/ gained the wisdom of the waters?

Is there any point in keeping this up?

I will expect a ban for asking questions, but hopefully someone will still provide some answers.

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Hermeticism is natalist?

So, I decided to get into Corpus Hermeticum since it's one of the first things shilled by modern gnostics after the Nag Hammadi library (which I'm already familiar with).


And right in the second chapter I bear witness to this:

>Wherefore child-making is a very great and a most pious thing in life for them who think aright, and to leave life on earth without a child a very great misfortune and impiety; and he who hath no child is punished by the daimons after death.

>And this the punishment: that that man’s soul who hath no child, shall be condemned unto a body with neither man’s nor woman’s nature, a thing accurst beneath the sun.

>Wherefore, Asclepius, let not your sympathies be with the man who hath no child, but rather pity his mishap, knowing what punishment abides for him.

So, explain in to me please why the hell does the gnostic community approve of this demiurgery that basically spits on celibate/monastic lifestyle?

Or is it some kind of twisted "allegory" that I don't get?

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Visual Snow | Seeing static

What does it mean? I have it since 2015

i need to know more google is not really helping i found reare good infos

pic related some interesting from some $$ kaballah book i couldnt find a free pdf

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Franz Bardon

just finished "Initiation into hemetics" by Franz Bardon.what are your thoughts on Bardon? has anybody progressed with his methods?

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The Word

One of the most frequent concepts spoken of in esoterics, in fact its probably the one thing that all of the various schools agree on, is that whether it be God or the universe or some other phenomenon there exists something that causes the words of man to be influenced.

In the bible it is said that "God speaks through the hand of the Ready Writer" and that "His word shows in our Good Works" whereas in other schools it is seen as an underlying universal code that is channeled or manifest when we perform actions that would capture it.. This explanation is a bit weird to explain its like imagine that there is a 'system code' like in the movie the matrix, that flows everywhere and when we put pen to paper or water to cement mix, when we create anything, the code that is 'flowing by at that moment in the spot that the pen touches paper' is captured within the work.

There are other explanations as well, but where there are many different understandings of it, there is one thing that is agreed… this 'thing' exists.

But, here is where it gets complicated… This thing works through even the uninitiated. The only requirement is that one sits down and 'puts their soul into their work'. If someone completely unaware of the esoteric sits down to write a poem or paint a picture or build a statue, whatever, as long as they are trying to create something that is new, not a copy, and are trying to make it really high quality, something that hopefully many will enjoy, the eye of the adept will look upon their work and see that it is extremely profound and entirely relevant to the esoteric.

Now, what is complicated about that is… the adept can sit down and do the same thing. But the fact that he is already adept leaves open the question, is he channeling what he knows in order to deceive others who are starting to become aware of this 'phenomenon'? If that is the case, how many adept are writing books or other works with the aim of deceiving? How many are doing such things trying to help? And how many are completely oblivious to the profoundness of their words?

For now, I am going to focus on songs. Have you ever taken a look at the lyrics of songs and read between the lines? Im going to start off with a couple that I feel are the best examples that there is something here. Pay attention to his introduction and then lyrics, read between the lines, Neil Young is an adept.

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The transition period as has been described by the Mayans is about to end. We Are Free.

Remember that We Are Always Free, Sovereign, Divine, Inmortal, Eternal, Unlimited and Non-limited Beings.

The Mayans predicted, using one of their complex calendars, an "end of the world" and a start of a new one (a new cycle, more rather). Most of the ones who saw the 2012 hype, however, did not realize that, in case that change did not come instantly, there would be a transition period between the old and the new age. This also had happened with the other ages as they have been described by the Mayans.

The most common and shortest duration of this period is of 5 years. It's going to end globally in some hours. Once it happens, We Will Be Free! Free from what? From the corrupt demiurgic false light/darkness duality, the nwo and all such preponents!.

When it ends, a liberation period will begin, in which the remnants of the old age are truly removed. This may take up to the end of 2018. Once that time ends, We Are Definitely Free.

The year of 2018 also coincides with the ending of many ancient and very long cycles, and with particular dates of some cycles which have not ended, but just progressed. For example in this latter category, the "photon belt" as the bibliotecapleyades describes (although the "belt" may be of the false light, I trust swathes of the bibliotecapleyades), and many others.

Relating to this, >>112478 has material.


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An argument on fighting feminism and creating a healthy masculinity

(1/2)Looking at ancient history, in the Roman Empire and ancient Greece, there was no feminism worth mentioning. Women had little power and were only seen as mothers and cooks, whose place was in the back rooms or second floor of a home. Why did they have no power? My analysis of what components enables feminism comes down to two things:

>homosexual men

>a culture which shames homosexual men

Both of these are necessary for feminism to exist, remove either and it will collapse. Let me explain by using the example mentioned in another thread on this topic. Why do I consider Alice Cooper to be a symbol of anti-feminism or healthy masculinity? First off, to clear up any possible misconceptions; he is married, has 3 children and is an outspoken christian, despite what impression he may make he is tradional in his family life.

Now what are the issues that I see him solve? He's a good example because it's very open and clear. On stage he is enacting the role of the witch Alice Cooper, a supposed real historical figure who was executed for witchcraft. He is known by this female name but it is a stage persona and kept that way as a form of roleplay. Because of the clear distincion between personal life and onstage life, he is creating an outlet for his feminine side while at the same time controlling it and putting it in its place. The show even includes the execution of Alice with a mock beheading of the character on stage, further showing that this symbol of extreme femininity cannot be allowed to run rampant and must be killed.

A man who cannot control his feminine side will be overrun by it, it will turn on him and he will become homosexual, assuming a degenarated form of the female sexuality. If there is no culture in society shaming him, it will not lead to feminism, as shown in the examples of ancient Rome and Greece. Homosexuality was not an issue brought up for discussion, it was accepted and normal. Women were only used for procreation and procreative sex was just seen as useful but nothing more.

Now what happens if women in this situation are allowed to organize and work together outside of the role of mothers? They may come up with this idea; women are productive and giving birth, but what about those men who are not married? They're not contributing, aren't then traitors to the country? This idea would easily get a foothold if the country is strained by war with higher losses. The easiest target for this campaign would be exclusively homosexual men, so women would start shaming them, and turning them into a symbol of the unproductive traitor. Once this has been achieved, it would seem a higher morality has been created - these men are no longer engaging in hedonism and are now getting married and having children, they have become sexually productive. But aren't they actually homosexual still? They're thinking and feeling like women, and are not going to be good husbands. The femininity they had been overrun by will instead be projected on their wife, this is the only way for them to avoid the mental strain and accept the role of being somewhat masculine.

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Compliments Are The One True Magic of Influence

I'm not joking. I think giving lots of compliments and genuinely meaning them in the direction of everyone on and off every day is the one true magic of influencing people.

Maybe we've all be overthinking it and the one true magic was in the gift of kindness all along.

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Can a Tulpa be a familiar spirit or gaurdian?

I have been wondering for a while, I thought I could find more information here. Forgive me if this isn't allowed here.

I noticed something really strange and noteworthy when I tried making a tulpa. And no this isn't a /x/ copypasta where it turned malicious. After a month when my tulpa was a hazy form in progress, I decided to draw her a second time after I first planned her out. A few months passed, and I lost free time, I had to take a break from working on the tulpa and she just kinda disappeared. I'm sure I would be able to start again anyways since she wasnt fully sentient or complete.

Eventually, I was writing some dreams down from when I was a kid, and all the sudden remembered that I had a dream about a woman that looked identical to the girl I forced myself into seeing.

In dream my mom got hit in the head with something (brick?) and my Dad ran away from home in anger and my mom started to cry and transform into this weird figure with just two black eyes, no mouth or nose. She looked almost identical to the tulpa. This was around 10 or 12 years beforehand.

So that lead me to wonder if these figures really live in your subconscious and aren't subject into our world until we allow it. Or is there more to tulpas? Are they archtype figures of a sort? I actually am starting to think they're familiar spirits as a possibility.

Is there any reading I where I can look into this sort of subject or concept? And is there any similar reports?

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