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What is Asatru?

Long before Christianity came to northern Europe, the people there – our ancestors – had their own form of spirituality that influenced every aspect of their culture. One expression of this European spirituality was Asatru. It was practiced in the lands that are today Scandinavia, England, Germany, France, the Netherlands, and other countries as well. Asatru is the original, or native, religion for the peoples who lived in these regions. Nevertheless, Asatru is more than just a religion in the narrow sense of the word. It is our way of being in the world; some of us call it the “Germanic Folkway” to underline this larger concept.

What does the word “Asatru” mean?

It means, roughly, “belief in the Gods” or “those true to the Gods” in Old Norse, the language of ancient Scandinavia in which so much of our source material was written. (A more literal translation would be “gaining experience of the ancestral sovereign gods.”) Asatru is a name given to the religion of the Norsemen, but we use this term to include the spiritual worldview of all the Germanic peoples, not just the Scandinavians.

When did Asatru start?

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Now I don't like using the term Orthodox Heathenism to describe it but it seems mildly fitting. The job of this discord is be a place for heathens to discuss a way of finding the truths of the faith. This is meant to be here to force all of asatruars and heathens to act a certain way but it is standardizing beliefs through logic and historical precedent and discussion to create a coherent set of beliefs for heathens that wish to have such a thing.

The discord is small, I am not going to lie we only have two members at the moment. We would love to have good discussions and asatru and heathenism, we have sections to discuss.




and are planning to add more when the need arises, we also have standard casual and scheduled debate areas for cool calm collected debate. Political debate is to be kept in a channel only for political debate, this includes discussion of Universalist and Folkish heathenism.

I would love to answer any questions if anyone is interested in joining our discord




Isn't Discord that site which leaks user data to governments and all other manner of foul creatures in Midgard? That isn't to say I'm not against such things seeing my conversions or what I believe but I wouldn't want to needlessly give away my position before the battle.

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Ancient centralo-eastern germanic pagan shaman burial site uncovered in Slovakia not far from the austrian border


Slovak Archaeologists found an interesting discovery when researching the area of the transport infrastructure for Jaguar Land Rover and accompanying industrial park in Nitra. They found a human skeleton from the Bronze Age that was probably a shaman. He was not buried in a standard grave but placed in hole serving a food storage.

“When the hole was not used anymore, people backfilled it with soil and this person was placed or thrown inside later. We don’t know whether he was thrown in or placed in, because the human was lying on his stomach,” said Klaudia Daňová, a scientific secretary from the Archaeological Institute in Nitra, as cited by the SITA newswire.

“Bronze decorations were placed near his ears. They were connected by little ear bones,” added Daňová for SITA. Archaeologists suggest that those are poultry bone but an analysis will be done to make sure.

“The decorations are unusual, we don’t have anything analogous to them yet,” stressed Daňová as quoted by SITA, adding that the placement of the body on his stomach is also unusual.

Scientists hypothesize that the body came from the older Bronze Age, however, a specific time frame will be given after radiocarbon analysis of the bones. Anthropological analysis will also determine gender, reveal diseases and maybe the cause of death.

“A necklace made of bones was the sign of a shaman,” said the head of the Archaeological Institute in Nitra Matej Ruttkay, as quoted by SITA. He added that shamans used to be very important persons in past times.

“They solved problems when the weather was dry, when someone was ill. The question is, if they were really solving problems or the society just believed it,” said Ruttkay, as cited by SITA.


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The first mention of Nitra dates back to the 9th century. The name of the city is derived from the Nitra river. The name is Indo-European, but the question of its pre-Slavic or Slavic origin has not been satisfactorily answered yet. Nitra might be derived from the old Indo-European root neit-, nit- meaning "to cut" or "to burn" using a derivation element -r- (see also slash-and-burn agricultural technique).[2] The same root is still present in the Slovak verb nietiť (to make a fire), but also in other Indo-European languages like Latin nitere (to burn) or in German schneiden (to cut).[3] Another view to the origin of the name is related to the Latin Novi-iter or Neui-iter meaning "new territory behind the limes".[4] The hypothetical Latin name could be adopted by the Quadi and later by the Slavs.

The first written records contain also suffix -ava (Nitrava). Particularly in older literature, the suffix is interpreted as an Indo-European/old Germanic basis ahwa (water).[5] However, the suffix -ava can be found also in numerous toponyms with a clearly Slavic origin and without any relationship to rivers.

The name has different varieties in different languages, including Latin: Nitria; German: Neutra (About this sound pronunciation (help·info)); Hungarian: Nyitra and Nyitria.



slavic archeologists are cucked af


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Hey guys I'm getting back into the movement but I don't have anyone to be pagan with. So today I went for a hike by myself and enjoyed the beauty of nature. Took my slingshot with me and almost hit a bird. I was going to take a poop in a cave but it looked too unsafe so I held it in until I got back home. What are we supposed to do in nature to like, commune with it? My partner is an atheist and doesn't care about these things.

At night I listened to some folk music like vid related, and read Lord of the Rings. I feel like I should say a prayer to the gods before sleeping and upon waking, but I don't know how to do it officially.

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>>no runic inscription

How are the Vanir supposed to know your purpose?



Don't know if you're serious or not. Rune carvers were rare and I don't know how to properly carve any. I made an offering burning some and burying the other parts while making a feast of the rest. And of course called the names of the Gods during slaughter, during burning, during offering of the blood to the ground and when I buried a part.



Even that in jest should have a meaning. Do you see the Aesir and Vanir separately? For I can find no account of an animal sacrifice to an Aesir but only to a Vanir.



We can also find no exact words for prayers or ceremonies. Or even conduct of sacrifices. We make do with what we can. Disa deals with plows and the fields therefore Freyja Freyr and Njord would be the most important and invoked. Which I did.

When I slit the throat of the animal I invoked Freyja.

When I poured blood into the plowed area I dedicated it to Freyr.

And the other sacrifices of meat and skin were for Njord to be burned or buried.



I understand, Njord and his children are honorable Vanir and all with a hunger.

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>same dubs in timestamp as the dubs I just got

must be blessed by the allfather heh


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The Musings of a bitter Germanic Milk Cow


CUNTER-STRIKE Thulêan Offensive! | Let's LARP


Some Advice from one Milk Cow to another…



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The Land of the Germanic Pagans


CUNTER-STRIKE Thulêan Offensive! | Let's Play


….when SHTF



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Go forth and procreate, fellow Germanic Thulêans!


A New Wave of Anti-Jewish Sentiments in Europe?


WTF!? Reading books is my will and you question it?



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A New Wave of Anti-Jewish Sentiments in Europe?


Convicted a 100+ times but INNOCENT? Really?


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Hereditary remembering (also: hereditary memory or heritage awakening, german Erb-Erinnern) is a conceptualization of Ariosophy marked by Guido von List and describes the biologically inherited collective memory of our ancestors since the proto-germanics.

The concept of hereditary memory has some loose resemblances to that of reincarnation, but the followers of the latter instead believe in memories from a past, repeated life - Contrast this with hereditary memory which rather sees these metaphysical flashbacks as memories or consciousness rooted in the inherited experiences of the ancestors, contained within our DNA itself.

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Hey are you from Dietsland?


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Decent followup article



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Since the early 10's, there's been a flurry of research into epigenetic changes between and within populations. We have clear evidence, for instance, that population-wide hardship exerts a deleterious effect in the descendants. An example of this is accelerated methylation in Palestinian Arabs relative to their Jewish neighbours in a genomic region that appears to increase the risk of type 2 diabetes.

Epigenetics is effectively the main source of the "gene-environment interaction" concept that was invoked with regularity over a decade ago. It represents the blurry boundary between nature and nurture. As such, epigenetics directly threatens various dogma (e.g. absolute biological or social determinism) which operate within that dichotomous framework.




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In the West, it’s commonly assumed that reincarnation is just a “nice thought,” or a faith-based belief with no real evidence to support it. But there is actually a substantial body of evidence to support the idea of reincarnation, and though it has remained on the fringes of mainstream scientific thought, it promises to overthrow a number of common assumptions about consciousness and the nature of the germanic human mind.


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Researchers studying the brain have stumbled upon a mysterious, previously unknown form of neural communication that has stunned the scientific community.

Despite major scientific breakthroughs, the brain largely remains a mystery, and the team from Case Western Reserve University have added to it with their latest paper on a self-propagating ‘wireless’ communication they encountered that can jump across different sections of the brain.

While we’re asleep, the cortex and hippocampus in the brain send out mysterious neural ‘waves’. Scientists have previously observed a low-level, slow periodic activity in the brains of decapitated mice by studying slices of their hippocampuses.

“We’ve known about these waves for a long time, but no one knows their exact function and no one believed they could spontaneously propagate,”says neural and biomedical engineer Dominique Durand from Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio.

This slow periodic activity can generate electric fields which ‘switch on’ neighboring cells briefly, allowing for chemical-free communication across gaps in the brain. The team managed to simulate communication across completely severed brain tissue while the separate pieces remained in close proximity[sic].


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There were ancient customs in Ireland regarding hospitality, which were similar to those of the Norse, which made for a cohesive kinsfolk. Unfortunately this old hospitality is being abused today as the Irish are encouraged to open their borders, arms, and wallets for the world’s “refugees”.


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Early Irish Society – The Old Religion and the Druids

Before the coming of Christianity Ireland was a significant centre for the Druids, a strange and elusive group of priestly magicians who had a presence all across western Europe. In those times, the religion and beliefs of the Irish were tied more directly with nature, the movement of the sun throughout the year, and the celebrations of death and fertility.


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Right wing iterations of Neo-Paganism almost invariably fail as viable and meaningful resuscitations of the old ways for the same reason; they habitually fail to really include genuine spiritual content. This is because this scene on the whole has an overwhelming aversion towards "the occult", and this would seem to be born of a desire to not seem too unpalatable to atheists and even Christians, and is symptomatic of deep internalization of these worldviews (which actually share a great deal in common)

I already know many of you reading this are internally wincing. "The fucking occult? Seriously? Get outta here with your degenerate satanist/wicca/jewish shit!" Well here's the thing - genuine European Paganism is not neatly separable from the occult. In fact its very much a part of it.

As far as I can tell from six or so years of participating in online communities dedicated to reviving the ways of our ancestors to countermand Christianity as part of the broader European ethno-nationalist resurgence, pre-Thulean Perspective Varg being my entry point, I've seen little to nothing which could be described as genuine spiritual discussion, practice or instruction for potential converts. What I've seen plenty of is vague speculation about history and purely materialistic rationalizations of Paganism was supposedly all about, but no hands on spirituality. At best, the Gods are treated as real, but vague and distant like the Christian god. Any occult Pagans out there certainly keep quiet about it, likely to avoid attracting ire, thus leaving new entrants without content to follow.

This is all seems to be because the scene/movement at large only draws on historical (or pseudo-historical) and political/philosophical material as its sources, rejecting occult literature with atheistic/Christian reasoning that such things are irrational and/or morally corrupt and certainly alien to our people.

The thing is, the sorcery of our ancestors was and is very much real, and its only through practices associated with, for lack of a better term, "the occult", that we can have real first hand relations with our Gods. It doesn't necessarily matter if those practices aren't exactly the same ones used in antiquity, forPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


This is all true. Christianity has had such a damaging affect on people, like cultural trauma. But even Christianity is just as larpy as it too is has gone the materialistic route to cater towards atheists. Christians celebrate holidays but don't believe in magic, they just hive mind with their church and highly liberal facebook neochristians.

Anyone that's "into" any form of heathenism but is not into magic doesn't really make sense, aside from the literalists that think magic is "unmanly" but this is more due to honor face-to-face fighting being of high social importance to ancient Germanics than magic itself being unmanly. Magic is only unmanly in the same way that rifles, missiles, and death rays are unmanly, so there is this belief that people should be truthful and avoid subversive actions. Which means, it would be of poor character to be doing something low like casting curses over petty shit or using magic for crime and other evil deeds. Times have changed, so there will never be an exact return to the ways of the past. Which is funny though because people tend to use this as an argument to dissuade people from returning to pagan ways, as if it has to be perfectly replicating the ancient path in order to be legit. This is why I believe neopagan is a bullshit term that modern society felt the need to event to try and not admit that modern paganism is possible.

Over the years, I've noticed it in occasional conversations, mostly random places online, that people absolutely cannot handle the concept of modern paganism. It's almost as if it drives them mad on a deep psychological level. Even people like professors, which are supposed to support all cultures and religions, start getting aggressive with the idea of nature on the spiritual level, shamanism, and paganism. Modern scientific attempts to study such topics as psychic abilities seems to flip people into getting mad as well. Like remote viewing, an ability studied by PhD physicists for the government, and people just get angry about this as if they are offended at the idea that anything close to spiritual is real. I can understand people being tired of new age frauds, but I doubt this has caused the mass Stockholm Syndrome in people to attack anything magic like if we're still in the days of the witch hunts. I grew up Christian and found it fascinating that so many people from my Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


I agree current "Paganism" is more a political/philosophic vehicle than anything, productive as a method of rebelling against foreign influence and discovering the past. Herein lies the issue, a complete void of viscera and mystery inherent in authentic spirituality. I'm not sure if I classify as "Pagan", I have beliefs but they do not fit into in anywhere. They are somewhat syncretic, but mostly originate through search, prayer and ritual. The past has some answers but I am finding more in the present and future through innovation and discovery.


>Believe seidr/galdr/sorcery is used to have first hand relationship with the Gods

>Not understanding the inherent spiritual nature of the universe and the Gods as kin



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Anglo here, how would I go about getting into Anglo-Saxon Paganism?

Also, what evidence do you have of the existence of the Gods? How do you build your faith?



Runes, you should know.



M'Anglo. Regarding faith, I would say it's not so much an Asatru specific question, and assuming you to some extent feel stuck in atheistic and nihilistic thoughts, would recommend reading traditionalist/perennialist literature generally, to gain an understanding of and appreciation for spirituality broadly. The Sacred and the Profane by Mircea Eliade is a great one. Summoning the Gods by Collin Cleary is one I've heard is a solid read, and more specifically relevant to Asatru, though I've not read it myself since I already feel convinced of the gist of what it wants to put forward. Still, maybe I'll "go back", so to speak, to read it, since it may help to solidify some of my understanding and a lot of people rate it highly and have found it useful.

Regarding Anglo-Saxon Heathenry, I'd maybe suggest checking out Lārhūs Fyrnsida's website and/or facebook page. Overall I would suggest that Anglo-Saxon Heathenry is not fundamentally different to Norse Heathenry, and much of modern ASH is informed by Norse sources. That said, there are some specifically Anglo-Saxon elements that could be held to exist, and Lārhūs Fyrnsida have some great and well-written articles. Did you have any specific questions regarding ASH in contrast with Norse Heathenry?


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In Havamal, Odin speaks of 18 symbols he came to know, so 18 different runes then but of the three runnic systems I know of {Elder:24, Younger:16, Saxon:29} none have 18 symbols. Even in all other writing systems from around the world that I look at, I can't find one with 18 symbols (besides Hawaiian, which is based on Rongorongo script from Easter Island but nobody knows what it means and its so free-form that even though "Modern Hawaiian" has 18 sounding characters, in the past there might have been more or whatever).

Anyway, so there is no script anywhere for the last 5,000 years or so which has exactly 18 characters to it, that I know of, please if you find one tell me. So I've been wondering, who, be it Odin himself or someone speaking through Odin or something else entirely what 18 characters could they be talking about?

Now I've been looking in the "Vinca symbols" from around 8,000 years ago, found in Romania to Bulgaria. Modern scholarship denies they were a real language but at least around 5,000 years ago you have all these etchings around that same area in that time frame, making etchings they must some kind of meaning. Now since there are so few examples of these things there really isn't any way of figuring out what they mean or even counting the characters as it seems often times characters are put together to make another character or something like that.


My simple question is, what 18 character system is Odin talking about in Havamal? Folk relating the story about 18 runes at one point must have used 18 symbols or for all time it wouldn't make sense that a people with this story is talking about 18 symbols when they're using more or less 18 symbols.



That is just weird.

If you take 18 as an encoded hexadecimal number, since there are 16 Younger Futhark runes meaning base-16 numbers, and then encode 18 as 0x18 into just a decimal number, you get 24 in base-10, which is the number of Elder Futhark runes.

0x18 = 24


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Define European Pagan culture in contrast to European Christian culture.

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Satan is a tolerated nuisance. Which isn't equal to God because God created Satan.

Now it's completely beyond me why an angel will rebel, just as much as a mystery as to why God created us. So I'm not going to attempt to explain anything other than clearing your misconception because I don't know



A being which Lords temptation over you, which can deny the will of your good god and turn you away from him is naught but a tolerated nuisance? Well, I hope you're getting your money's worth on this pantheon of the mediocre

Honestly, if a perfect being (angel) in a perfect realm (heaven) living with its own creator would feel the need to rebel; it by reason alone, it must be for a really good reason.

One has to wonder then, if all the stuff we hear about this bad god is just propaganda and damage control?


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Well "Germanic" Christians use the name "God" deriving from the Lombard term "Godin" as seen in Paul the Deacon's writings about what he called the "demon" Godin and his wife Freya for at that time Christians said Christ, Iesu, Latin Deus or Greek Θεoς. Though if this Godin (Saxon version Gautr) is in fact "Odr", I can see the apprehension of those who strive to get an afterlife where they get what they want and aren't challenged, though for some that might be a happy life to finally be at peace, though they must all know it will fall. You can only face the end fighting, that is the only meaningful action!

The Middle-English poem "Thomas the Rhymer" may preserve some of this discussion of the afterlives, even mentioning Alfheim.

"yon narrow road so thick beset with thorns and briars that is the road to righteousness though after it but few inquire"

"yon broad road that lies across the lily leaven that is the road to wickedness though some call it the road to Heaven"

"yon bonnie road that lies across the ferny brae that is the road to fair Elfland where you and I this might must go"

Whatever the case may be one need only read Volsupa to know what happens before even Odin goes to his fate in Ragnarök.

"The crags are sundered, the giant-women sink, the dead throng "Hel" way and "Heaven" is cloven."



Christian here, you mean to tell me I've been praying to Odin this whole time?



>>thinks Wodin and Godan are the same

What is it with Abrahamists always making an amalgam, whether it be in philosophy or race?

While Paul the Deacon tries to make this equivalency, there is nothing within Asatru itself which says Freyja's husband is Odin and as well by etymology Freyja's husband is actually Ullr.

"Wotan sane, quem adiecta littera Godan dixerunt, ipse est qui apud Romanos Mercurius dicitur et ab universis Germaniae gentibus ut deus adoratur; qui non circa haec tempora, sed longe anterius, nec in Germania, sed in Grecia fuisse perhibetur. " Book One, History of the Lombards by Paul the Deacon


"Wotan indeed, whom by adding a letter they called Godan is he who among the Romans is called Mercury, and he is worshiped by all the peoples of Germany as a god, though he is deemed to have existed, not about these times, but long before, and not in Germany, but in Greece."

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The northern germanic Viking influence on the western germanic English Language

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Was Stonehenge created by Proto-Germanic sailors? New study suggests long-running mystery could be solved

The mystery of Stonehenge may be solved, thanks to a new study that reveals the iconic rock structure may have originated from a single hunter gatherer society in France 7000 years ago.

The iconic prehistoric rock structure in Wiltshire, England has been baffling the world for generations as people struggle to figure out how the massive rock formations appeared in the UK.

A new study suggests the impressive ring of stones was created thanks to a hunter gatherer society in Brittany in northwest France, which first starting building the impressive structures and monuments 7,000 years ago.


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Sacred European Symbols - Odal rune (ᛟ)


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"Asatru" art, form the past and the present. Scanned physical works, digitally produced, runes, symbols, gods, every theme under the sphere.

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Why put the word "symbol" below the name? I wouldn't draw "Rad" like that, but I don't judge on the basis of rune etching.



Othala and Dagaz look squished. Sowilo and Gebo look stretched. Raidho and Ehwaz look bad. Those colors look nice.

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An Esoteric Commentary on the Volsung Saga



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>>Greg Johnson

>>"we should uphold and defend heterosexuality as the norm but also recognize that not everyone fits that norm. But as long as homosexuals uphold healthy norms and have something positive to contribute, they can and do make our movement stronger, if we stop worrying about it." -Greg Johnson

All homosexuals are pedophiles. If Johnson wants to be taken seriously perhaps he should start with the most important political structure, the family, and how anyone but those without a healthy mind would think it'd require some elite butt fucking and child raping class.

Nerthus is watching, ancient and patient for the bog sacrifice to begin again. Greg should beseech her directly, if he doesn't want to be forced into a meeting.


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An Esoteric Commentary on the Volsung Saga, Part VII


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