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What is Asatru?

Long before Christianity came to northern Europe, the people there – our ancestors – had their own form of spirituality that influenced every aspect of their culture. One expression of this European spirituality was Asatru. It was practiced in the lands that are today Scandinavia, England, Germany, France, the Netherlands, and other countries as well. Asatru is the original, or native, religion for the peoples who lived in these regions. Nevertheless, Asatru is more than just a religion in the narrow sense of the word. It is our way of being in the world; some of us call it the “Germanic Folkway” to underline this larger concept.

What does the word “Asatru” mean?

It means, roughly, “belief in the Gods” or “those true to the Gods” in Old Norse, the language of ancient Scandinavia in which so much of our source material was written. (A more literal translation would be “gaining experience of the ancestral sovereign gods.”) Asatru is a name given to the religion of the Norsemen, but we use this term to include the spiritual worldview of all the Germanic peoples, not just the Scandinavians.

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As someone with a Christian schooling background, I know that Christians use Apologies, defenses of their beliefs, to state why they believe what they believe. I can't, however, find almost anything about something like this for paganism (explanations for why you believe, logical defenses of polytheism, etc)

I did some looking around for something akin to pagan apologetics but all I got were Wiccans calling people intolerant or rayciss and calling it a day. Some gems I've found include things like

>Nationalism=racism and bigotry and always will

Do any of you here on /asatru/ have resources for pagan apologetics/things you have thought up? I would think a topic like this would be important to discuss for anyone of some kind of faith.



We dont need apolegetics because we arent a kike derived religion, we have nothing to apoligize for. That word is one the reasons i keep saying christcuck, i mean how much more cuckolded do you habe to be to have an entire system called apolegetics to defend yoyr kike god and maintain mental gymnastics?

I like the idea of rational defense of paganism in debate but plz call it another, less cucky word



Fair response. If apologetic doesn't fit for you, let's just use "pagan philosophy/reasoning".



Our religion is entirely based on observing the nature and worshipping the eternal elements of it.

Interpret "Nature" as all there is in existance, and not the caricate view of it as trees, woods, etc…




Our religion is entirely based on observing the nature and worshipping the eternal elements of it.

Interpret "Nature" as all there is in existance, and not the caricate view of it as trees, woods, etc…



Don't blame OP because you don't know the original meaning of the word (hint: it has nothing to do with saying sorry).


> early 15c., "defense, justification," from Late Latin apologia, from Greek apologia "a speech in defense," from apologeisthai "to speak in one's defense," from apologos "an account, story," from apo "away from, off" (see apo-) + logos "speech" (see Logos).

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I know vidya is degenerate, but while playing Medieval 2 Total War I couldn't help but find the idea of a warrior monotheism interesting if not appealing. Help me come back to the paganpill guys.

My views right now:

Early Christianity provided a parrallel society in a time when the Roman world was dying. This is very similar to today's left and right political movements (which are both religions if evaluated.)

Modern Christianity is literal jew worship + humanism.

However, Medieval Catholicism was basically a blend of European ideals and semitic ones.

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Wtf, this post is meant for


Also, allow me to bring up the fact that unlike many who share my sentiments regarding Christianity, I'm not opposed to the Christ figure. However, I feel like the Bible's depiction of Jesus as not only being a Jew but a Rabbi as well, is false. Basically I see all of the Old Testament and most of the New as trash, with a little truth mixed like the whipping of the Jews at the Temple for instance. It would be fair to say that my rejection of Christianity stems directly from my anti-Semitism.


What you call modern christianity is not christian in any sense of the word.

What used to be called Christendom was a civilization atop three pillars: the Graeco-Roman legacy, the traditions of the northern peoples, and Christianity. Every one of them essential.

Every one shat upon today.



>In core issue is that you refuse to accept that Christianity is anything but the ugly strawman that people like Varg have propped up. You find the most subverted manifestations of the Church and bring attention to it, because you fear the real truth

Are you saying that almost every church on this earth, except perhaps some elements within the Orthodox church and some Christian Identitarian groups, are not openly promoting multiculturalism, universalism and racemixing?

Because that seems to be the default position of almost every Christian group on this earth, and something which is ""pardon my christcuck talk" satanic to every true Germanic.


Are you really that weak-willed that you get swayed from your religion, supposedly a serious matter, because you like the aesthetics of another one in a very specific time period on a fictional setting? Really nigger?

>Early Christianity provided a parrallel society in a time when the Roman world was dying. This is very similar to today's left and right political movements (which are both religions if evaluated.)

Christianity only ever got relevant in Rome after Constantine, and until Theodosius came in, it basically was restricted to the Levant and the city of Rome itself. 90% as in of its territorial extension werent christian until its adoption as the state religion.

If you're talking about REALLY early christianity, that shit was for the jews, not the pagans. Pagans already had the golden principle consacreted in their moral fiber, which was Jesus' mains teaching.


This is pretty accurate. Most christians at the time just listened to what their priest told them and assumed that was the word of Christ. Sometimes it was true, sometimes it wasn't.

That's how germanic christianity came into existance, basically priests implementing taqiya on the germans.

But let's not overly simplify things, by the low middle ages, which was the period where the knights had the most prevalence, the christians of the time werent crypto-pagans anymore.

>We saw this when Early Christian mobs defaced (Literally) Ancient Roman statues - removing their noses and carving crosses into them. You need to realize that pre-Christian European faiths all had value, each one, and the YHWH of the Bible demands you completely erase them from the face of the earth.

Well, technically that isnt what christianity is supposed to be. It's like i said, people just did whatever their priest told them, and so did iconoclasm come into existance, by some priests completely ignoring the fact that Jesus negated the old covenant and therefore adopting old testament principles where they shouldnt. It's the same deaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



That the insanity of monotheism, obviously iconoclasm is part of Christianity, just as much as the veneration of saints is, but because you imagine there is a single God, a single faith, a single dogma, you have to somehow reason how thousands of years of Christian history are really not Christian, because it's not suitable as propaganda anymore.

Wotan demands human sacrifices……

So maybe go more with Donar?

That's how easy Germanics deals with religious troubles.

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Is Dionysius a degenerate God? NO!


>Symbols: Thyrsus, grapevine, leopard skin, panther, tiger, cheetah

>Bachus (aka Dionysius) is the God of the grape harvest, winemaking and wine, of ritual madness, fertility, theatre and religious ecstasy in Greek mythology. Wine played an important role in Greek culture with the cult of Dionysus the main religious focus for unrestrained consumption.

>The earliest cult images of Dionysus show a mature male, bearded and robed. He holds a fennel staff, tipped with a pine-cone and known as a thyrsus.

Drink up, be fertile and attain religious ecstasy m8s

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<The mystery consisted in the participation of the bacchanates in the total epiphany of Dionysus. The rites are celebrated at night, far from cities, in the mountains and forests. Through the sacrifice of the victim by tearing it to pieces (sparmagos) and the consumption of raw flesh (omophagia), the communion with the god is realized. For the animals that are torn apart and devoured are epiphanies, or incarnations, of Dionysus…. That among these freedoms there also figured deliverance from prohibitions, rules, and conventions of an ethical and social order appears to be certain - which explains, in part, the mass adherence of women.^14 (Teiresias defends the god: "Dionysus does not oblige women to be chaste. Chastity depends on character, and the woman who is naturally chaste will take part in his orgies without being corrupted")

- Mircea Eliade, A History of Religious Ideas Vol 1. Euripides and Dionysiac orgiasm


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<In ca. 186 the authorities discovered, with suprise and indignation, the existence in Rome itself of bacchanalia, that is, of nocturnal "orgiastic mysteries." The cult of Dionysus had become widely disseminated in the Mediterranean world, especially in the Hellenistic period. Following the Roman conquest of Magna Graecia, esoteric associations of mystai spread through the peninsula, especially in Campania. Indeed, it was a Campanian priestess-seeress who had introduced into Rome a secret cult, modified according to her own directions and including certain rites comparable to those of the Mysteries. In consequence of a denunciaiton that was immediately made public by the consul, an investigation revealed the size of cult and its origastic character. Its adherents, who numbered 7,000 were accused of many abominations: not only did they swear to reveal nothing, but they practiced pederasty and organized murders in order to obtain fortunes. The rites were performed in the greatest secrecy. According to Livy (39. 13. 12), men, their bodies tossing as if demented, uttered prophecies; women "in the dress of bacchantes, with disheveled hair," ran to the Tiber, "carrying blazing torches," which they thrust into the water and withdrew still on fire, for "they contained live sulphur mixed with calcium."^53 (They were further accused of causing those who refused to join their crimes and debauches to disappear in some horrible manner [Livy, 39. 13. 13])

- Mircea Eliade, A History of Religious Ideas Vol 2. Roman Religion, Crises and catastrophes


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<The Greeks knew the Thracian names of Dionysus; those most commonly used were Sabos and Sabazius. The cult of the Thracian "Dionysus" is reminiscent of the rites presented by Euripides in the Bacchae. The ceremonies took place at night, in the mountains, by torchlight; a wild music (the sounds of bronze caldrons, cymbals and flutes) inspired believers to joyous outcries and to dances in furious circles. "It was especially women who indulged in these disorderly and exhausting dances; their costume was strange; they wore "bessares," long, floating garments made, it seems, from foxskins; above those, deerskins, and probably horns on their heads." In their hands they held snakes consecrated to Sabazius, daggers, or thyrsi. Attaining paroxysm, "sacred madness," they seized animals chosen to be sacrificed and tore to pieces, eating raw flesh. This ritual omophagy produced identification with the god; the participants now called themselves Sabos or Sabazius.

- Mircea Eliade, A History of Religious Ideas Vol 2. Celts, Germans, Thracians, Getae: The Thracians, "great anonyms" of history





>one source only

>hey guys look a decadent wealthy civilization is decadent and wealthy!

Fuck off


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>Livy and Euripidies' Bacchae isn't a valid source

no u

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"The mythic archetype associated with a nation can make or break its destiny.

by Everte Farnell and National Vanguard correspondents - May 17, 2017


AGAIN AND AGAIN, the peoples of Europa conquered the other cultures they encountered. Before the modern era, they were well-nigh unconquerable. And yet now they seem to be lying down and allowing Middle Easterners of very low type to take over the European continent.

Why? What possible reason would such a people allow such inferiors to invade, rape their women, kill their people, pillage their social programs, and destroy their property?

Why would the once all-conquering Europeans behave in such a suicidal way? I believe the answer is 1,500 years of Christian belief. Your first reaction may be to dismiss me — but stay with me for a moment and we’ll think this through.

First, Christianity isn’t native to Europe. It was certainly adopted wholeheartedly (though often initially by the bloody sword), but it is indeed a foreign religion. All of the putative sacred places mentioned in its holy books are, for example, on another continent.

I understand that we later Europeans eventually deemed some places sacred in the name of Christ, such as the healing shrine in Lourdes, France. But, except for some outlier sects who disagree, there are no places that Jesus or his disciples were reported to have visited in Europe.

The simple fact is this: Europe adopted this foreign religion and consequently admitted, on some level, that another people was more enlightened, intelligent, spiritually attuned, and more deserving of respect than our ancestors. These “others” were, we accepted, a uniquely great people who found the “truth” — and Europeans were very lucky indeed to be given a chance to learn that truth from our superiors.

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I actually agree with >>14722 to some extent, though not with the notion that we should turn away from the old gods. They are our birthright, as surely as we are theirs. The blood of our ancestors lives in us still and calls to us to remember. There is no reason to tollerate the slanderous Abrahamic nonsense >>14722 is talking when he calls Odin a fallen angel.

But it is true; our folkway is severed and there is no patching what once was. What has fallen off the vine and rotted to Earth is forever lost. Perhaps small bits and pieces will come to light in the times ahead, but ours was an oral tradition predominantly, and even what survives of late Norse Paganism is perverted by the ways of their own times (the likely separation of Frig and Freyja into separate goddesses and the like).

Furthermore, we cannot expect the ancestral practices to be of much value to us, even if the ancient folkway had gone unbroken! Within almost all European animistic shamanism was the concept that language is power. To speak a thing was to invoke it. But it is the nature of that speech which galvanized runic forces to material consequence! You can no more speak an ancient Teutonic or Norse spell and have it manifest than you can demand a hot dog appear right now in your native tongue! And of what value are animal sacrifices in times when livestock is no longer synonymous with wealth? What does Freyja care about a slain pig from the hands of a man who's meal came from the supermarket?

Real religion is the product of a life lived, and we do not live as the arch heathens did. Nor should we try to! We have some to learn from them, but progress need not grind to a halt, sociologically, technologically, nor spiritually.

We DO need to pick up what we can from the past, but if we are to deliver ourselves from foreign gods and their machinations, we must forge a brand new folkway. Aside from the practical and magical limitations of trying to shove a square peg through a round hole (trying to use ancient methods to produce spiritual/magical Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


Halfway through you got retarded. Odin is a faggot, one of satans generals.

Literally thousands of European Pagan Gods and im supposed to choose a faggot called odin? He who eats time , im choosing hashtur

I'm a christian btw



>black star

The inner sun. Nazis are occultist(vril society) who believes in space aryans jej and the swastika is eastern descent.



> Odin is a faggot

You have evidence of this from primary sources and not authors that are kikes or leftists?



Your name is Luna_Phantasma and your are clearly promoting witchcraft and hatred for the Gods, so it's clear that you are some Wiccan and should be ignored.

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What are y'all's thoughts on the Golden One? Personally I find him LARPy and Cringey at times but overall he seems to have a pretty good message.

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Pretty much this >>14963

I'm waiting for the youtube meltdown and conversion to orthodoxy.


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Why I am Pagan and not Christian. Also, Yes I am Blessed by the Gods


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he is a total faggot



This is true he thinks that because Spartans were butt bashers that means faggot ty is normal. I asked him what he thought about the fact his actual pagan ancestors, the swedes and suebii, threw faggots into bogs.

No response as of yet


The Golden One is both wiser than he appears and also a lot wiser than those who think they do anyone a service trying to undermine him.

When pagans have friends like you, they need no enemies.

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"Asatru" art, form the past and the present. Scanned physical works, digitally produced, runes, symbols, gods, every theme under the sphere.

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I'm the one who makes the Paganism generals on 4chan, this is a pagan discord all around so it has channels for non-Asatru pagans who such as Slavic, Celtic etc. This board is kinda slow so if you want to join this group here it is https://discord.gg/w68tguT

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Both germanic and slav are only linguistical terms tho.

If you want to go by ancestry, go with the "western hunter gatherers" (the european R1b clade) group and "eastern steppe nomads" (R1a, there's only one clade of it so it yeah) group.

It is important to remember that the vikings invaded the "slavic" lands in the high middle ages and formed several countries where the nordic vikings where the dominant ethnicity and thus imposed their religion on the natives, however the natives DID have their own religion.



I still get 'The instant invite is invalid or has expired.', weird. Unsure what's up, is there another way to invite to the server?


>Both Germanic and Slav are only linguistic terms

Truth, to some degree. A west Russian, Pole, or Ukrainian, is more genetically similar to an Englishman, a German, or Swede, than he is to a Croatian or Bulgarian. The WHGs were, though, by and large not R1b, and there are several clades of R1a. R1a was brought to Europe (or, from eastern Europe to the rest of Europe, depending on where we say Europe ends, but that's not important really) by the Yamnaya steppe nomads who mixed with neolithic (or early) European farmers, who were a mix of WHGs and Natufians (basal Eurasians), with the WHG-Natufian ratio depending on time and place. I1 and I2 are WHG paternal lineages, G2a and E1b1b (and to some extent, I think both J1 and J2, though I may be mistaken) were introduced to Europe with the EEFs, though the EEFs were already part WHG before mixing with the pure WHGs they came across in Europe, to whom they introduced farming. R1a and R1b are both ultimately descended from the ancient north Eurasians, and while both are present in some eastern European neolithic samples, and while the Villabruna sample (almost pure WHG, found in Italy) was R1b, by and large they only became prominent throughout Europe after the Yamnaya migrated westwards from the Pontic-Caspian steppe. The Corded Ware culture in the north European plain was seemingly close to purely R1a, and about 75/25 Yamnaya/WHG-heavy NEFs, likely descended from a northern branch of the Yamnaya culture (over time, the CWC picked up further NEF admixture and we end up with the modern northern European genotype). R1b was seemingly made prominent in western Europe after the CWC, by the Bell Beaker culture, who are likely descended from R1b-dominant south Yamnaya people. The Yamnaya people themselves were a mix of eastern European hunter-gatherers and Caucasian hunter-gatherers, likely around 70/30 EHG/CHG, though I'm not certain on that. The EHGs themselves are the result of an earlier mixing of WHGs and the ANPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



Sorry that's such a wall of text. I'll try to tl;dr but it still won't be too brief:

Mesolithic Europeans are WHGs, the first anatomically modern humans in Europe, whom we get I1 and I2 from and who produced the cave paintings in France. A group we call EEF, a mix of WHGs and Natufians (who are seemingly closely derived from basal Eurasians) who were the first farmers migrated from the near east into Europe, mixing with the indigenous WHGs and so enriching their WHG component over time as they spread farming northwards and westwards. They also brought Y-haplogroups E1b1b and G2a, possibly J1 and J2.

Meanwhile, the genotype of the proto-Indo-European Yamnaya culture had formed in the Pontic Caspian steppe, from EHGs (themselves WHG+ANE) mixing with CHGs. The Yamnaya people made bronze weapons and domesticated horses, which allowed them to conquer Europe fairly readily, bringing R1a, Indo-European language and culture, and the bronze age with them, and creating the Corded Ware culture. Later, another branch of Yamnaya people migrated to central Europe and formed the Bell Beaker culture, bringing R1b andwith them. After this we're no longer really looking at pre-history, but modern north and central Europeans are roughly 50/50 Yamnaya (EHG+CHG) and neolithic European (WHG+EEF).

No other modern people has as much Yamnaya ancestry, and the Indo-Iranic languages/cultures descend from the Sintashta culture, which itself descends from the Corded Ware culture. The Tocharian and Anatolian language branches which descended directly from the Yamnaya culture went extinct. The Nordic bronze age and proto-Germanic language resulted from a migration from the Unetice culture (Bell Beaker descended) into the Corded Ware-descended people of Scandinavia. As such, Celts and Italics are Beaker-descended, Germanics are Beaker and Corded-descended, and all other Indo-European cultures, including the Iranians and Hindus, (except for Hellenic, I'm unsure there) are Corded-descended.




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Seriously, I'm getting real fucking tired of people getting driven away from the faith because Cletus from South Carolina wants to pretend he's an ebin vikingses. Stop pretending like you are going to "destroy christianity and take back europe just like adolb hidler!!!". We need to do what our ancestors couldn't, organize, and actually work out a plan to take back europe from the muslim hordes and eventually replace christianity in our homeland. We can't just sit around lurking on 8chan talking about the jews and how we're going to start a commune or something. Hell, we can't even do what Varg did and isolate ourselves from society. We need to actively shill on other boards and websites, attracting and converting people. We need to arm ourselves and wait until the time is right to strike Europe. Take up arms, lose some weight, ditch the cargo pants and a band t-shirt and get ready.

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I saw some female missionaries today. Probably 20-somethings, with a middle aged lady.

Wearing plaid skirts down to their calves, buns on their heads, and grandma lace blouses with long sleeves.

A great example of LARPing. As if there was no way to be modest without looking as frumpy as possible…



Priests yes, for others its not a requirement



It all comes from the older indo-european religion/cultural structure.

The idea of a pantheon of human-like dieties is a central feature of these religions, as is the idea of cyclical time (ragnarok/kali-yuga) and birth/death/rebirth cycles on the basis of each day/year/lifetime/ages. The core structure of the relationships and functions of the gods is also very similar.


Varg knows what's up.

All we need to do is better ourselves and isolate ourselves from society so that when western civilization collapses we can survive it.

>We need to actively shill on other boards and websites, attracting and converting people. We need to arm ourselves and wait until the time is right to strike Europe.

There's no point in trying to take over a rotten civilization. You just have to let it die and start fresh which you can only do within the confines of your own life. There isn't much point in actively proselytizing like a Christfag or a Muslim, even Jews know that's no tactic at all.



Thats a bit of a stretch. I could say you're larping a non-larper right now.

Do you see how quickly the term loses its meaning when you go looking for it?

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From that pic it looks like that game would be called

>Life is strange: North sea adventures



Don't play this sjw shit.



A few really good music tracks.


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Got a Switch recently and started playing. Pretty Paganpilled so far.

>Kingdom in decline, has been overtaken by dark forces and the good Hylian(Aryan) people have been driven out and replaced mostly with violent monsters such as bokoblins

>Survive off the land, hunt and forage for food

>Tame horses like in the days of the Indo-Europeans

>Conserve weapons and think about what you're doing

Only left Kakariko and left off at the stable outside of it.


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Lineage 2 was the best grind-heavy MMO game ever right up until the Interlude expansion.

Everything after that went to shit.

The artstyle was beautiful, the game built on teamplay and it had a world full of lore.

If you ever manage to find a good L2 Interlude low rate (1-7x) server, give it a shot, but prepare yourself to some pretty hardcore grinding.

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I was wondering if we could get a dedicated PDF thread going, and have it as either a Sticky, or referred to in the in Master Sticky: >>2 so that it can be quickly and efficiently found by newbies.

We can also have a system where if you want to share a pdf, you start your own Mega account and just share your secure link. Then others can download your pdf to their computer and then upload it to their Mega account, and you can download their pdfs to your computer and then upload them to your Mega accounts.

That way, we can have multiple mirrors of our pdf collections in the event that SHTF, and do so in a secure fashion that is void of open usernames and passwords, and direct sharing of Mega accounts that can be exploited by hacker trolls.

Here's the current collection:


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>I already said wars and genocides will always be. You are twisting my words into the progressive humanist you want me to be. The New Covenant discourages it, and encourages us to resist this impulse. The Heathen worldview encourages it as evidenced by the quote I cited. Speaking of which….

It will always be, but we can resists it's impulse?

If it will always be, then it's the law of the land, to resist it is to fall to that law, which would be an act of defeat.


>The Culture of the Teutons was written by an actual scholar of the Germanic worldview. Read it sometime. You are willfully dodging the issue.

Alright, now WHY would I accept his particulair interpretation. Let me remind you that academic scholars are attacking your Christian religion right now.


>LOL! Because there's absolutely no drive in Heathenry whatsoever to be buried with a lot of toys, and have a runestone carved to one's memory by achieving as much glory and fame in this life as possible…. oh, wait….

Excuse me, that's a natural human impulse and certainly is not covered by the concept of ego.

You basically admit that in your mind Christianity is ego driven, since most Christians enjoy their toys and set up gravestone, again proving you aren't really a Christian, but some misanthrope.


>Yet there is still much more of a spirit of ecumenism and drive for unity, and larger and more prosperous organizations than there will ever be in Heathenry. If I had a dollar for every micro tribe that hPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



>If it will always be, then it's the law of the land,

In other words "Oh well."

>Alright, now WHY would I accept his particulair interpretation.

Because it's backed up by the behavior and mores of Heathens as recorded in the Sagas and history.

>Excuse me, that's a natural human impulse and certainly is not covered by the concept of ego.

Yes it is natural. Which is why people do it to this day. Does not excuse not striving against and trying to rise above it.

>it's supposed to be loose and with unclear bounderies,

I understand this perfectly. It's why modern Heathenry is such a chaotic mess, and why it ultimately fell to a much more unified and organized Christianity in the first place.

>Ah, I see, so you are allowed to bicker and fight

At worst, maybe I've been a bit sarcastic at times, but for the most part, I've been trying to be civil in this debate. Exhortations to eat cyanide pills have not been coming from me.

>Jesus was just a man, so yes, trying to win me over to the teachings of a mortal man would be atheism.

That is some mental gymnastics you've got going on there.

>Right, because exterminating the populations of entire countries, because they followed the wrong kind of Christianity is somehow not terrible.

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>In other words "Oh well."

Your words not mine.

>Because it's backed up by the behavior and mores of Heathens as recorded in the Sagas and history.

So not actually religious literature, but seculiar literature like sagas and histories.

By that logic I could take the common fact that Christians are childmolesters, to interpret Christianity to be about molesting children, he your logic not mine.

Also, you're still not actually awnsering my question why I should accept that academic.

>Yes it is natural. Which is why people do it to this day. Does not excuse not striving against and trying to rise above it.

Again, that's very nice, but you are basically admitting that you are not attacking paganism, but humanity, so what is your problem with paganism again? That it's human?

Well…. I think you will find all human things are human…

>I understand this perfectly. It's why modern Heathenry is such a chaotic mess, and why it ultimately fell to a much more unified and organized Christianity in the first place.

Exactly, we offer freedom, you totalitarianism, until of course the poison of christianity goes to deep and you have an entire society splitting again and again into dogmatic cults, instaid of looking past minor differences.

>At worst, maybe I've been a bit sarcastic at times, but for the most part, I've been trying to be civil in this debate. Exhortations to eat cyanide pills have not been coming from me.

Yes, that's right, moral precepts only apply to other people, not to you.

If you are truly against fighting and bickering, you wouldn't be a Christian trying to spread the faith, but a lonely monk.

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Fair man, not going to insist that the quality or nature of discussion is what you're after - in truth, I've probably talked more there about archaeo-genetics and lifting than I have about Paganism itself - but your sense of its dedness is weird, it's seen consistently good traffic as far as I've seen. There are daily lulls in activity but equally, daily flowing conversations. At any rate, while I think giving the place another look and trying to get some more discussion of Paganism beyond putting forward pet theories would be worthwhile, I'm glad to see you're around and have remained sane. You say that Pagan discord posted in another thread here is good? You post there much?


>True weakness is giving into love of the world

I might agree, which is why Paganism is best understood from a Radical Traditionalist perspective. The true Aryan mindset is neither a love of the world, nor a rejection of it. It must be accepted, and it must be understood that here in this world we can act in ways accordance with what is above us, or in ways in accordance with what is below us. There are no profane realms, there is only a profane point of view.


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Heil. I thought you anons might enjoy this thread I made.


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>I was camping the other night and got a drunk.

>I dozed off a bit near the fire

>Woke up suddenly and there's a dude leaning on a tree.

>red beard, kinda built

>jumped up and he was gone in flash

>spooked the shit out of me & started looking around frantically.

>grab my camp hatchet for protection.

>a little time goes by and nothing much else happens

>get this urge to write

>grab my notebook from my pack

>write this:

"Thus the Thunderer spoke:

"Long have I been with you, my people.

Long have I been your protector - your guardian.

I have given you strength and spirit to forge on during

the harshest of times and in the most severe of circumstances.

Even when you turned your backs on me to follow a weak martyr-god so that

that you might 'inherit the earth', I watched over you and granted my

strength to you. Because you are my people, I did not turn my back

on you.

When the barbarians and desert riders were at your gates it was I

that stood alongside you. And together we repelled that force.

But of late your conduct has been such that I can no longer recognize

you as the folk who once stood so proud in battle. You no longer

respect any god - nor do you seem to respect yourselves.

Your men act as women and cowards - weeping with fear and shame. Too

afraid have you become stand up for yourselves that, once again, barbarians are

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>your descendants wont be, because theyll be sexslaves to muslims you retarded faggot

You're already likely part nigger yourself and you should honestly just kill yourself.



Lol the eurocucks with 12 arab inlaws dontlike some worda of truth huh ? Do something about your shitty homeland and we will stop reminding you. Already told you im 100 percent white yoy subhuman sodomite. The only jews here are the ones trying to promote DnC between americans and europeans by claiming americans are part nigger .


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Lol what country are you from ?



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Why are """""""""pagan""""""""" women so fucking degenerate?

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>Doesnt work

I know, the intend is to feel smug about knowing more then they do.



There's probably whole subreddits and tumblr pages devoted to cannabalism fam. Don't put anything past these faggots.


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yes, they come from indjun mythology. probably based on whatever tribes came before the indjuns. basically they think if you commit cannibalism , which was practiced in ancient native societies but by the time europeans had arrived it was seen as bad by most tribes, your body and soul would become warped into a beastly creature doomed to wander the forests

not sure why anyone would call themselves a wendigo unless theyre just an edgy faggot

necromancy is legit if youre talking by the books soul summoning and consulting of the dead. im guessing her friend the necromancer looks like pic related tho


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Nah some dude who dresses as a Mortician and thinks he can someone bapoment and carries around a deck of tarot cards.

More akin to pic related. I shit you not too he has a soul patch and long hair like pic related too.Same hair color too.



Ignore grammar mistakes meant summon not someone lol. Just got off a late shift at work.

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I just got my 23andMe results back. I thought I was 25% Eastern European (I knew about one Ukrainian great grandparent and one from either Poland or Ukraine) with the rest being Western European, but apparently I'm a pretty even split between Eastern and Western European. 0% Ashkenazi, not even a trace. Am I white enough for Asatru? Is it reserved only for Northwestern Europeans?

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Why do you do this knowing full well these companies will falsify results while using the data to ruin you and your people? You are not anonymous, you leave a trail of blood like freshly hunted game in flight.


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My Ancestry is English and German speaking.

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