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>>3842

>>10064

>frid

I'm afraid I have no idea what that is.

It is equivalent to familial piety?

>your kin, not necessarily with blood you have never met

I assume you mean strictly immediate blood relations (parents, siblings, grandparents) rather than overall.

>>10060

Ásatrúarfélagið is dreadful, their blóts consists of people standing in a circle while the leader recites: "*mumble* *mumble* *mumble* Óðinn *mumble* *mumble* *mumble* heill." then he drinks from a horn and everyone has hotdogs.

>>10064

>We call those fags the practitioners of "Wiccasatru".

In Icelands case "Lutheranasatru" would be more apt.

>>10065

>I'm afraid I have no idea what that is. It is equivalent to familial piety?

Yes, but also no, but also yes but also no. Hop over to

>>9731

and grab "think_again" from "books by michael smith" in germanic heathenry. It is sort of an "idiots guide to foundation norse-germanic principles". Fríd could be thought of as peace, coexistance or harmony or bonds. You would still have fríd with your blood ancestors, but it would be much less than the built up fríd of those who cared to raise you when your blood wouldn't. You also have fríd with the local spirits and the gods themselves.

On that note I really need to get him to organise the library better into categories like "beginners material" or "spirits" or "magical rites" or whatever.

>>10066

>Ásatrúarfélagið is dreadful, their blóts consists of people standing in a circle while the leader recites: "*mumble* *mumble* *mumble* Óðinn *mumble* *mumble* *mumble* heill." then he drinks from a horn and everyone has hotdogs.

How absolutely terrible. I'm pretty sure even wiccans put more effort into their brand of fluffy and meaningless new-age idiocy.

>>10058

>>10064

This copy I have of the flateyjarbók is only pertinent to its sagas of vinland, and isn't a complete version. Apparently there is an extended version of St. Olafs Saga (Óláfs saga helga) later on where there is a mention, but even if that was the case this would be from the newest and most icelandic version of the story and so written in 1390-1500…

Doesn't look like you'll get to be legolas.

For my English-speaking friends, should we try to start calling Saturday by a different name?

Saturn is a Roman god, and our ancestors referred to it as "laugardagr" or "bath day".

Just recently stumbled upon a treasure trove of rare pdfs, and taking my time downloading and sorting through them to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Till then, I've gone ahead and uploaded some of the more exciting no-brainers for y'all to enjoy:

All of these are In the "Germanic-Scandinavian-Anglo-Saxon Heathenry" subfolder:

Folder - Books by Varg Vikernes -

Contents - Sorcery and Religion in Ancient Scandinavia by Varg Vikernes

Folder - Way of the Heathen

Contents - Way of the Heathen by Garman Lord

Folder - Elves, Wights and Trolls

Contents - Elves, Wights and Trolls: Studies Toward the Practice of Germanic Heathenry Vol 1 by Kveldulf Gundarsson

Folder - Germanic Heathenry A Practical Guide

Contents - Germanic Heathenry: A Practical Guide by James Hjuka Coulter

Folder- Roles of the Northern Goddess

Contents - Roles of the Northern Goddess by H.R. Ellis Davidson

Folder - The Well and the Tree

Contents - The Well and the Tree by Paul Bauschatz

And finally, thanks to this wonderful poster >>10012 Summoning the Gods by Collin Cleary is now in the folder "Summoning the Gods."

There's quite a bit more for me to download and sort through, so it's going to take me Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>9996

Currently still in the process of scanning it in, so don't worry, it's coming!

>>10071

I have been looking for stuff to read in French to get back to fluent level, so if you can upload those too I'd appreciate it.

>>10016

That anon here, posting from my phone.

Klefki's origin is less Norse specifically and more of a general Pagan thing. According to Bulbapedia, Kelfki may be based off the pagan tradition of blaming the loss of small things like keys or shoes on the mischief of faries and similar creatures. I've gotten into the bad habit of occasionally associating general pagan shit with Asatru and Norse tradition by default. Pardon my fuck-up.

If you like warband you might like battle brothers.

Its made by germans and has no niggers in it. Its got cool anglo-saxon and germanic names.

Its called a comb you communist faggit?

>>9598

Welp, this has my vote.

And now it goes up once again

New week evropean frienderinos

Fuck how i wish i could edit videos like this in AE

>>9974

This. Where a lot of christians miss the boat on being "traditional" is they conflate "(grand)parents" with "ancestors".

You seek the honor your ancestors while recognising somewhere along the line there's a divide past which some of them were engaging in a mistake and dishonoring their ancestors by doing so. What divides us from most of the "traditional christians" is that our loyalty is to ultimate tradition and ancestry… the most prominent, longest running and socially successful brand that can be found amongst the most of those who came before. Like modernists they cling to simply the newest tradition, and shriek and cry in its defense should their (last) millennial fad be tugged at. They love their two thousand years, but forget rome existed about that long, those gods at least two thousand years before that, and then the mycene gods at least another thousand before THAT if not also two. In other words, from what we can find the gods that came before christ are at least as old in general form (if not in detail) as the christians claim the entire world is and one can find the beginnings of the archetypes in the types of symbols used in neolithic ukraine/caucasia. In other words, you have gods about 6-10 thousand years old on a "6 thousand year old" earth. :^)

Their claims to tradition and being owed elder respect are then completely laughable. "Think of your last 15-20 ancestors and toss out the 1500-2000 before them in their favour! They're the most recent so they obviously have to be better! It's CURRENT YEAR, A.D.!" cries the adherent to the first form of hipster leftism. One has to picture an american who knows nothing of culture but (((blue jeans))) and (((television))) and nothing of his ancestors beyond his last 3-6 generations saying that, christian tradition being the only one he or she knows. No disrespect to any american heathens, but I'm you know what I mean by "that kind".

>>9993

This - Christians say "hurr your ancestors were Christian!" but only a small fraction were ever Christian in the grand scheme of things. Vastly more were Germanic polytheists, and vastly more still practised the traditions which Germanic polytheism organically evolved from.

Anyway, I think that we should aim to have Germanic names, but equally dropping names from your parents is kind of sad. I think the compromise I've settled upon being likely to enact at some point is simply taking extra names, dropping none; going from [first name] [middle name] [surname] to [first name] [three middle names] [surname], following >>9978's suggestion of preferably being named by people close to you rather than yourself, as long as they understand the need for a specific origin for the name. Keeping the closest meaning possible, too, is preferable.

An idea I had regarding shunting a surname forward to be a middle name while taking a new surname is that this is perhaps most appropriately done upon marriage, my idea being that you and your wife together settle on a new identity for your "new family line", as you're likely to be raising your children differently to how you were raised yourself.

>>10006

>An idea I had regarding shunting a surname forward to be a middle name while taking a new surname is that this is perhaps most appropriately done upon marriage, my idea being that you and your wife together settle on a new identity for your "new family line", as you're likely to be raising your children differently to how you were raised yourself.

That seems a bit unnecessary, doesn't it? Unless there's some historical account of christian converts changing their names I'm not sure what is particularly semitic about "hubert" or "armstrong" or "andersson" or "diehl" or "porter" or whathaveyou. It would seem names like that are as old as the civilisation regardless of christ. I guess it would have to go on a family by family basis but if your family was known as "bjornsson/bjornsdottr" since the bronze age regardless of intermediary conversions it'd be a real shame to change it.

>>10020

That's true, but you're right that it depends on the family name in question. There are names like Johnson which, while Germanic in form (-son), are clearly the result of a surname being "formed" by a Christian after the name John had found popularity in England. There are also names which while themselves are pre-Christian, must, again, have been taken/formed by some ancestor after Christianisation/Romanisation. There are Brits and Frenchmen with Latin-derived surnames who might consider themselves to "rightly" hold a Brythonic-, Anglo-Saxon-, Frankish- or Gallic-derived surname instead as part of their returning to their roots. To me, it echoes the sentiment above in leaving the religion of your more recent ancestors being worth it, as while it may be seen as disrespectful to them, it's honouring the greater part of your ancestry.

I have a Germanic first name, my middle name refers to where my ancestors lived, and my last name is a tree. I fucking love my parents

I really do want to seek glory in the war for Europa but what would I even do?I was the OP of the "asatru villages" thread, and now I've gotten some personal things in order and returned to the path. Where can we go? Are we to learn all the languages of Central/Western/Northern Europe? Should we comply with the local laws in order to establish ourselves? How do we deal with the cuck laws?

In five years if tensions are still high we could perhaps form vigilante urban patrols, but do we attack the cuck police who will fight us? We must re establish our planning.

>>6938

Why ashamed? America is just a pan-European colony. England is a Germanic colony in Britain, Iceland is just a (Hiberno-)Norse colony. Fuck it, most of the "Germanic mainland" is land that early Germanic people moved into, displacing/absorbing the Celts that were already there. Are all Germanic people in the world, in America, England, Australia, Iceland, Germany, Austria, to all cram themselves into Denmark and southern Sweden because that's the proto-Germanic Ur-Heimat? No, that's silly. You're entirely right, man. You are who you are, no matter where you go.

>>9955

Regarding language, let's face it, English is ubiquitous enough, and England itself is still part of mother Europe, but getting "good enough" in whatever local language shouldn't be too hard for people, in honesty. They'd be learning another Germanic language, so it should be easier than learning something radically different. German, for example, grammar might be harder than English grammar, but it'll come more easily than learning Mandarin or Arabic, I'm sure. Regarding the rest of your concerns, perhaps it all deserves its own thread. I've spoken with someone from here about that rough idea and think that "asatru villages", as you put it, might not be the best way to win a war for Europa. Maybe make a "war for Europa" thread to get broader discussion, but maybe look at the "how do we get more people" thread and look at engaging some discussion on Tox.

>>9955

I was you co-pilot in that thread, welcome back.

>Are we to learn all the languages of Central/Western/Northern Europe?

Languages are easy. It requires proximity to, and assistance by, native speakers to SOUND like a native speaker… but other than that it is a cakewalk if you mentally orient yourself correctly. This was the intuitive process I've used my whole life to snap up vocabulary and pronunciation but I saw this video that really codifies it nicely. In fact had I ever been "educated" in languages I'd be so much worse at learning and speaking them.

>Where can we go? Are we to learn all the languages of Central/Western/Northern Europe? Should we comply with the local laws in order to establish ourselves? How do we deal with the cuck laws?

Didn't we cover all of this? Nothing, legally has changed in regards to anything. You can bump that thread if you like if you can be active in it; it was mostly you and I anyway. Or, if you prefer we've been mobilising people in tox.

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>>10011

Sorry to sound like an uninitiated pleb, but what is Tox? Can I use it on mobile?

>>10049

>Sorry to sound like an uninitiated pleb, but what is Tox?

It's like skype meets tor, you can chat, video chat, audio chat, send files and so on but it's encrypted and private.

>Can I use it on mobile?

Yup. There are less features on mobile, for the obvious reasons, but you can at least chat and stuff.

wiki.tox*chat/clients

>>9898

I would also like to know. Hopefully someone here knows and we won't have to bother /fringe/

>>9898

You can basically spend the rest of your life figuring out the answer to that question.

>Do you just slap one on to something for the desired effect?

There's a famous story about someone who slapped a ᚦ onto something for a desired effect and got the opposite.

>Is it possible to link certain ones together for certain things?

Yes, it is called a bindrune.

>If so, how does one know which ones to use?

Veiztu hvé rísta skal?

Veiztu hvé ráða skal?

Veiztu hvé fá skal?

Veiztu hvé freista skal?

Veiztu hvé biðja skal?

Veiztu hvé blóta skal?

Veiztu hvé senda skal?

Veiztu hvé sóa skal?

>be fairly new to using runes

>did a bit of research before attempting to use them

>decide to use three runes for my question

>ask if I'm going in the right direction in regards to Asatru

>draw Algiz, Kenaz, and Ehwaz

>read the meanings

>tfw

Hail Odin.

I've heard that Odin learned rune chants.

Is this a type of galdr that we can use?

Senate Candidate from Florida Admits to Sacrificing a Goat, Drinking Its Blood

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/05/senate-candidate-florida-admits-sacrificing-goat-drinking-blood/

>>9975

My excuse is the living space to have such an animal.

Btw, what are these not impossible prices?

>>9966

Did you just say that we need to attract more traffic so that we can attract more traffic?

>>9992

Ummm…. duh. We attract more traffic; our board ranking goes up; we get noticed more; which brings more traffic; which makes our board ranking go up more; which gets us noticed even more; which attracts more traffic…

In other words, a common sense snowball effect.

Currently our board is in the top 90 of the board list. If you look at the board list on the front page, you have to click "Displaying results 1 through 50 out of 9571. Click to load more" before you even see our page near the bottom of the next group. Imagine how much our traffic would increase if we were at least in the top 50 and a visitor to the site did not even have to click at all to see our board.

Honestly, we at least owe it to ourselves to get up past some of those top 50 boards for the sake of decency. For fuck's sake, stuff like Zoophilia and Adult Baby Diaper lover are up there.

>>10028

PS: Since you mentioned it I checked and we're board 74 as of the posting of this, a head above /islam/ and a full torso above /atheism/, the only religious boards above us are /christian/ and /christ/ which in a primary "white" space is still to be expected.

We're doing pretty good.

>>10028

>>10030

Fair enough. Though there was a time when /christian/ was actually within spitting distance of us before they shot up to the top 20. I hope we do eventually grow to the point that Heathenry takes it's rightful place as the director of The Occident.

Though great to know that we are at least ahead of the kebabs and fedoras.

>>10021

>LP

I'm not sure what that is, but I presume it's akin to experience?

If so, I'm woefully unprepared. But I'd love the idea of being a lawspeaker at some point.

>>10031

That was an ebin reference to the mmorpg sandbox game set in ancient scandinavia called "Haven and Hearth" where one of the most expensive skills in "learning points" was lawspeaking which let you form villages. I always assumed most people here had played it.

But yes, we'd need an elder lawspeaker. We'd have to write fresh many of the laws for him to speak, though…

>>10032

>That was an ebin reference to the mmorpg sandbox game set in ancient scandinavia called "Haven and Hearth"

Ah, I need to get up to date on my ebin meems.

>But yes, we'd need an elder lawspeaker. We'd have to write fresh many of the laws for him to speak, though…

All the more reason to be serious about the project.

Personally, I would sooner have the village itself in Europe.

America is nice, but it isn't the land of our ancestors.

I think you are looking for the wrong thing.

Bind runes were made up by an icelandic jewelry seller and the nine noble virtues are just interpretations of the hávámal. Try focusing on the runes themself and casting them

>>9999

>Bind runes were made up by an icelandic jewelry seller

But aren't there actual rune carvings that involve combinations of runes? Unless I'm mistaken.

>>9987

Happy Ostara, friend.

I'm probably going to pour out some wine for the gods tomorrow don't get too fussy, I don't have any mead.

I don't have any pendants or statues yet, so I'll probably spend some time outside in nature.

>>9986

Sounds good. But what if I'm under the age to drink? (19 atm).

>>9989

Work with what you can.

Remember, the gods don't need you to be a groveling slave. You're their kinsman.

If you offer anything freely without being stingy, they'll smile upon you.

>>9987

that's an awesome picture man, do you happen to know the artist?

Before christians and pagans here flip their shit over this, watch this video essay.

Hitler wasn't a christian either. He was more of a jeffersonian deist.

>>9925

"No he didn't hate LARPers and magic, or no he didn't like Pagans?

I've been reading Goodrick-Clarke and the story he tells — which is reasonably justified by the available evidence — is the same one we have always known. Hitler was neither some frothing, bible-thumping slavelike Christian cartoon, nor was he particularly dedicated to study of the native German faith and mythology. He was a nationalist who put the German people first and worked pragmatically with groups who could help him to unite Germans. The origins of the National Socialist movement are firmly within the völkisch revival of the early 20th century, with absolutely no documented connection to German Christian movements, but Hitler himself was not directly associated with any of the less mainstream occult or polytheist groups.

The stories of him studying the Germanic occult are somewhat dubious, however, there are several independent such accounts while there are zero accounts of him habitually attending church.