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Asatru

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What is Asatru?

Long before Christianity came to northern Europe, the people there – our ancestors – had their own form of spirituality that influenced every aspect of their culture. One expression of this European spirituality was Asatru. It was practiced in the lands that are today Scandinavia, England, Germany, France, the Netherlands, and other countries as well. Asatru is the original, or native, religion for the peoples who lived in these regions. Nevertheless, Asatru is more than just a religion in the narrow sense of the word. It is our way of being in the world; some of us call it the “Germanic Folkway” to underline this larger concept.

What does the word “Asatru” mean?

It means, roughly, “belief in the Gods” or “those true to the Gods” in Old Norse, the language of ancient Scandinavia in which so much of our source material was written. (A more literal translation would be “gaining experience of the ancestral sovereign gods.”) Asatru is a name given to the religion of the Norsemen, but we use this term to include the spiritual worldview of all the Germanic peoples, not just the Scandinavians.

When did Asatru start?

Asatru is thousands of years old (though it is practiced in a modern form today, to meet the needs of our age). Its beginnings are lost in prehistory, but it is older than Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, or most other religions. The spirit it expresses, though, is as ancient as the northern European peoples themselves because it is an innate expression of who and what we are – not merely a set of arbitrary beliefs we have adopted.

Why do we need Asatru? Aren’t most people who want religion satisfied with Christianity or one of the other “established” religions?

People are attracted to the better-known religions because they have genuine spiritual needs which must be filled. People are looking for community, fellowship, and answers to the “big questions”: the purpose of life, how we should live it, and what happens after death. For many people today, the so-called major faiths do not have answers that work. Asatru does. Once seekers realize that there is another way – a way that is true to our innermost essence – they will not be satisfied with anything less than a return to the Way of their ancestors.

Why is the religion of our ancestors the best one for us?

Because we are more like our ancestors than we are like anyone else. We inherited not only their general physical appearance, but also their predominant mental, emotional, and spiritual traits. We think and feel more like they did; our basic needs are most like theirs. The religion which best expressed their innermost nature – Asatru – is better suited to us than is some other creed which started in the Middle East among people who are essentially different from us. Judaism, Islam, and Christianity are alien religions that do not truly speak to our souls.

Why did Asatru die out if it was the right religion for Europeans?

Asatru was subjected to a violent campaign of repression over a period of hundreds of years. Countless thousands of people were murdered, maimed, and exiled in the process. The common people (your ancestors!) did not give up their cherished beliefs easily. Eventually, the monolithic organization of the Christian church, bolstered by threats of economic isolation and assisted by an energetic propaganda campaign, triumphed over the valiant but unsophisticated tribes.

Or so it seemed! Despite this persecution, elements of Asatru continued down to our own times – often in the guise of folklore – proving that our own native religion appeals to our innermost beings in a fundamental way. Now, a thousand years after its supposed demise, it is alive and growing. Indeed, so long as there are men and women of European descent, it cannot really die because it springs from the soul of our people.

Asatru isn’t just what we believe, it’s what we are.

Wasn’t the acceptance of Christianity a sign of civilization – a step up from barbarism?

No. The so-called “barbarians” who followed Asatru (the Vikings, the various Germanic tribes, and so forth) were the source of our finest civilized traditions – trial by jury, parliaments, Anglo Saxon Common Law, the right to bear arms, and the rights of women, to name a few. Our very word “law” comes from the Norse language, not from the tongues of the Christian lands. We simply did not, and do not, need Christianity or other Middle Eastern creeds in order to be civilized.

You say Asatru was the religion of the Vikings, among other early European cultures. Weren’t they a pretty bloodthirsty lot?

Modern historians agree that the Vikings were no more violent than the other peoples of their times. Remember, the descriptions of Viking raids and invasions were all written by their enemies, who were hardly unbiased. Both the Islamic and Christian cultures used means every bit as bloody, if not more so, than the Norsemen. It was a very rough period in history for all concerned!

We keep talking about the Vikings. Does this mean that Asatru is only for people of Scandinavian ancestry?

No. Asatru, as practiced by the Norse peoples, had so much in common with the religion of the other Germanic tribes, and with their cousins the Celts, that it may be thought of as one version of a general European religion. Asatru is a natural religion for all people of European origin, whether or not their heritage is specifically Scandinavian.

What are the basic tenets or beliefs of Asatru?

We believe in an all-pervading divine essence which is beyond our immediate understanding. We further believe that this spiritual reality is interdependent with us – that we affect it, and it affects us.

We believe that this divine essence expresses itself to us in the forms of the Gods and Goddesses. Stories about these deities are like a sort of code, the mysterious “language” through which the divine reality speaks to us.

We believe in standards of behavior which are consistent with these spiritual truths and harmonious with our deepest being.

How does Asatru differ from other religions?

Asatru is unlike the better-known religions in many ways. Some of these are:

• We are polytheistic. That is, we believe in a number of deities, including Goddesses as well as Gods. (We have a tongue-in-cheek saying that a religion without a Goddess is halfway to atheism!)

• We do not accept the idea of “original sin,” the notion that we are tainted from birth and therefore intrinsically bad. Thus, we do not need “saving.”

• We do not claim to be a universal religion, a faith for all of humankind. In fact, we don’t think such a thing is possible or desirable. The different branches of humanity have different ways of looking at the world, each of which is valid for the ancestral group in question. It is only right that they have different religions.

Do you consider the Norse myths to be true?

The myths are stories about the Gods and Goddesses of Asatru. We believe they are ways of stating spiritual truths. That is, we would say they contain truths about the nature of divinity, our own nature, and the relationship between the two. We do not contend that the myths are literally true, as history. Rather, myth can be thought of as “the dream of the race” or “that which never happened, but is always true.”

What about these Gods and Goddesses? Are they real?

Yes, they are real. However, just as most Christians do not think their God is really an old bearded figure sitting on a golden chair in heaven, we do not believe Thor (for example) is actually a muscular, man-shaped entity carrying a big hammer. There is a real Thor, but we approach an understanding of him through this particular mental picture.

Do followers of Asatru pray to their Gods and Goddesses?

Yes, but not quite the way most people mean by the word. We never surrender our will to theirs or humble ourselves before them, because we see ourselves as their kin, not as their property. Nor do we beg and plead. We do, however, commune with them and honor them while seeking their blessing through formal rites and informal meditation. Actually, living a full and virtuous life is a form of prayer in itself. Our religion should affect all parts of our lives, not just some fragments that we choose to call “religious.”

Don’t you worship stones and trees and idols?

No. We know that trees, wooden statues, the Sun, and other natural or man-made objects are not Gods, so we don’t worship them. We do sometimes use these items as reminders of a God or Goddess, but we would never confuse them with the actual deity!

You mentioned certain standards of behavior taught in Asatru. What are these?

Some of the qualities we hold in high regard are strength, courage, joy, honor, freedom, loyalty to kin, realism, vigor, and the revering of our ancestors. To express these things in our lives is virtuous, and we strive to do this. Their opposites – weakness, cowardice, adherence to dogma rather than to the realities of the world, and the like – constitute our vices and are to be avoided. Proper behavior in Asatru consists of maximizing one’s virtues and minimizing one’s vices.

This code of conduct reflects the highest and most heroic ideals of our people.

Don’t all religions believe in these things you’ve just named?

No. People may honestly believe that this is the case, but examination does not bear this out. They believe in freedom on the one hand, yet at the same time admit they are slaves to their God. They agree that joy is good, but their teachings laden them with guilt because of some imaginary “original sin.” They want to accept the real world on a pragmatic basis, yet they are trained to believe without questioning when the teachings of their religion conflict with reason or with known facts about the nature of the world (“You must have faith.”).

Of course, many people believe in the values of Asatru on a gut level. After all, they’re instinctive, passed down to us from our ancestors. We want to believe that the better-known religions espouse those values, so we see what we want to see. Most people just haven’t yet realized that the major religions are saying things that conflict with the values we know in our hearts are right. To find European virtues, one has to look to a religion truly consistent with those virtues – Asatru.

What do you have to say about good and evil?

Good and evil are not constants. What is good in one case will not be good in another, and evil in one circumstance will not be evil under a different set of conditions. In any one instance, the right course of action will have been shaped by the influence of the past and the present. The result may or may not be “good” or “evil,” but it will still be the right action.

In no case are good and evil dictated to us by edicts written by an authoritarian deity. We are expected to use our freedom, responsibility, and awareness of duty to serve the highest and best ends.

What does Asatru teach about an afterlife?

We believe that there is an afterlife, and that those who have lived lives of virtue and power will go on to experience greater fulfillment, pleasure, and challenge. Those who have led lives characterized by vice, weakness, and a low level of consciousness will be separated from kin, doomed to a vegetative state of dullness and gloom. The precise nature of the afterlife – what it will look like and feel like – is beyond our understanding and is dealt with symbolically in the myths.

There is also a tradition in Asatru of rebirth within the family line. Perhaps the individual is able to choose whether or not he or she is re-manifested in this world, or there may be natural laws governing this. In a sense, of course, we all live on in our descendants quite apart from an afterlife as such.

To be honest, we of Asatru do not overly concern ourselves with the next world. We live here and now, in this existence. If we do this and do it well, the next life will take care of itself.

Does Asatru involve ancestor worship?

Asatru says we should honor our ancestors. It also says we are bonded to those ancestors in a special way. One of the implications of this relationship is that the ancestors need our veneration, and that they reciprocate by looking out for us from beyond death.

We also believe our forebears have passed to us certain spiritual qualities just as surely as they have given us various physical traits. They live on in us. The family or clan is above and beyond the limits of time, space, and mortality.

Does Asatru have a holy book, like the Bible?

No. There are written sources that are useful to us because they contain much of our sacred lore in the form of myths and examples of right conduct, but we do not accept them as infallible or inspired documents. Any religion holding such beliefs of infallibility is deceived about the purity and precision of the written word.

There are two real sources of holy truth, and neither expresses itself to us in words. One is the universe around us, which is a manifestation of the underlying divine essence. The other is the universe inside us, passed down from our ancestors as instinct, emotion, innate predispositions, and perhaps even racial memory. By combining these sources of internal and external wisdom with the literature left us by our ancestors, we arrive at religious truths. This living spiritual guidance is better than any dusty, dogmatic “holy book”.

I’ve heard Asatru described as a “Nature religion”. What does that mean?

We treasure the spiritual awe, the feeling of “connecting” with the Gods and Goddesses, which can come from experiencing the beauty and majesty of Nature. Our deities act in and through natural law. By working in harmony with Nature we can become co-workers with the Gods. This attitude removes the opposition between “natural” and “supernatural”, and the supposed conflict between religion and science.

For us, following a “Nature religion” means recognizing that we are part of Nature, subject to all its laws. We may be Gods-in-the-making, but we are members of the animal kingdom nonetheless!

Where did the universe come from, according to Asatru?

Our myths describe the beginning of the universe as the unfolding of a natural process, rather than an event requiring supernatural intervention. Followers of Asatru need not abandon modern science to retain their religion. The old lore of our people describes the interaction of fire and ice, and the development of life from these – but this is symbolic, and we will leave it to the physicists to discover how the universe was born.

What are the runes, and what do they have to do with Asatru?

Runes are ancient Germanic symbols representing various concepts or forces in the universe – the holy mysteries. Taken together, they express our ancestors’ worldview. Their meanings are intimately connected with the teachings of Asatru. Our myths tell the story of how Odin, father of the Gods, won them through painful ordeal so that Gods and humans alike might benefit from their wisdom.

How is Asatru organized?

There is no all-powerful spiritual leader who speaks for all of Asatru, but there are numerous leaders who speak to and for their particular constituencies. While Asatru has definite principles accepted by most of our adherents, we generally allow a considerable degree of freedom in interpreting religious truth.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160205013631/http://asatrufolkassembly.org/faq/

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Music

/asatru/ Music Thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-B4hP-t85M
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Norsepilled games

What games do you like to play /asatru/?
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What are y'all planning on doing for Yuletide?

Yuletime starts sunset on the 22nd this year, and is of course the longest night of the year for the NH, and it lasts twelve days.

My plans are hobby based, rather than being solidified into traditions of their own rights.

First, I will do astronomy on the night of the solstice. I always bake something sweet on my holidays, but I also intend to make some savory meals based on meats I've never eaten like Duck, Lamb, and Cabrito. I will be putting the most effort into the 24 hour period between the solstice sunset and the following sunset, so effectively two days of celebration there.

I would like to take up archery & archery hunting this year, a plan to go on a hunt on the final days of Yule, which will constitute a lot of effort as well. Many hours and quite possibly an unsuccessful hunt or else even more work in preparing my prey for a meal.

Filling up the intervening time with meaningful tradition is a challenge, though. We have a Yule Moon which happens to fall on the 25th this year, but I have mixed feelings about putting in a lot of effort on the christcuck high holiday. But on the other hand you can't just surrender part of Yuletime to them.

Any one else working on some dank traditions? I think a challenge for most pagans is that we don't live in communities of other pagans with whom to share our traditions so our religious activities take on a reclusive and private nature which should be fought against. Let's light up the season of darkness by sharing our traditions with each other.

Happy Yuletide!

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Vikings TV Series General

Only a few months to go until season 3 begins!

Let's talk about this absolutely based show ITT.
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QTDDTOT #2

This thread is for /Asatru/ related questions that don't need a separate thread.

#1: >>299

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Who is FoKy?!

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Old one just went on autosage

New varg video, heathens

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Video of the Week

Post your favorite videos in this thread.

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Book / PDF Thread

I was wondering if we could get a dedicated PDF thread going, and have it as either a Sticky, or referred to in the in Master Sticky: >>2 so that it can be quickly and efficiently found by newbies.

We can also have a system where if you want to share a pdf, you start your own Mega account and just share your secure link. Then others can download your pdf to their computer and then upload it to their Mega account, and you can download their pdfs to your computer and then upload them to your Mega accounts.

That way, we can have multiple mirrors of our pdf collections in the event that SHTF, and do so in a secure fashion that is void of open usernames and passwords, and direct sharing of Mega accounts that can be exploited by hacker trolls.

Here's the current collection:

https://mega.nz/#F!fIchVA7Y!owKwAgGKq9pgXrbVOnkeag

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Priapus_Church

>St. Priapus Church (French: Église S. Priape), also known as Temple of Priapus, is a North American pagan[1] religion founded in the 1980s that centres on the worship of the phallus.

>St. Priapus Church was founded in Montreal, Quebec, by D. F. Cassidy and has found a following mainly among homosexual men in Canada and the United States. The church, which is named after the Greek god Priapus, teaches that the phallus is the source of life, beauty, joy, and pleasure.[2]

>The Scripture of the Holy Seed, also informally called the ‘Bible of Man Worship’, is the official religious text of the church. It is written in a similar way to that of the Judeo-Christian scriptures, with passages about a savior and sacrifice, but with erotic and sexual meanings.[3]

>The phallus is to be worshipped, which can be accomplished by a variety of sexual acts, including group masturbation.[4] Semen is also treated with reverence and its consumption is an act of worship.[2] Similarly, fellatio is strongly encouraged; St. Priapus Church sees it as a commandment, a good deed which has positive effects not just for the recipient but for society in general, a practice facilitating world peace. (Well-fellated men, the church teaches, are less likely to make war.)[5]

>Images of the phallus are personified as deities, particularly Priapus and Pan, who are revered in religious ceremonies. The ceremonies are a mixture between pagan phallus worship as well as the structure of a Mass.[6] During the services, the congregation is naked with the exception of the priest. Phallic statues and candles are incorporated in the worship as well as phallic-centered prayers. Along with group masturbation, often to pornographic videos, group sex also may take place.[7]

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What is the Asatruian opinion on the quran?

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Pagan Movies General

Let us collect some norse/pagan-themed movies in here.

I'll start:

>Outlaw - The Saga of Gisli

>Valhalla Rising
>Embla
>Beowulf
>Hrafninn flygur
>The icelandic Raven Trilogy
>The Eagle
>The 13th Warrior

Oh, and movie discussion is also welcome ITT of course.
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Judeo-pissinsanity's Reign of Terror Over the Germanic Ancient World

The early Christian terrorists really were far worse than ISIS; one thing the two groups have in common is that they were doing the bidding of jews.

>.renegadetribune.com/christianitys-reign-of-terror-over-the-ancient-world/

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>christCUCKS actually worship this

AHAHAHAH

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Norsepilled Asatru-tier documentary kinos that really get your neurons firing

ITT let us collect greenpilled documentaries on the norse faith aswell as various associated/peripheral topics.

I'll start with this one here:

Secrets of the Viking Sword

>The Vikings were among the fiercest warriors of all time. Yet only a select few carried the ultimate weapon of their era: the feared Ulfberht sword. Fashioned using a process that would remain unknown to the Vikings' rivals for centuries, the Ulfberht was a revolutionary high-tech tool as well as a work of art.

>Considered one of the greatest swords ever made, it remains a fearsome weapon more than a millennium after it last saw battle. But how did Viking sword makers design and build the Ulfberht, and what was its role in history? Now, NOVA uses cutting edge science and old-fashioned detective work to reconstruct the Ulfberht and finally unravel the Secrets of the Viking Sword.==

youtube.com/watch?v=J6woycxQzA0

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Art Thread

"Asatru" art, form the past and the present. Scanned physical works, digitally produced, runes, symbols, gods, every theme under the sphere.

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Asatru Humour General

Let's have a thread about pagan jokes and funny pagan memes

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Making Aryan Werewolves a Reality

Is it time to take the next step in evolutionary fascism and become flesh-and-blood werewolves?

We could become the new Supermen ready to tear into our enemies, nails and fangs, tall and muscular. We would be nature's defenders of blood and soil. No other hominid would stand in our way by physicality alone.

Any occult or Asatru knowledge on this, like biokinesis or magic? If werewolves were mentioned as being real in the native Aryan religions and were not bad, or even good, then could they be viable today? The Norse knew about the Varulv, with Kveldulf being described as a shapeshifter between wolf and man, even retaining wolfish characteristics as a human. The Irish also had noble humanoid werewolves that provided for and protected the Irish people.

Aryans even have certain canine physical characteristics compared to other races (third pic is what some Asian wrote regarding what he perceived about us and canines), plus our ancient bond with dogs.

Would it be viable for some of us to become Varulver/Úlfhéðnar?

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The Last Kingdom - Norsepilled TV series

>Cont. from old thread since the other one is still broken

New season has just been confirmed to air later this year globally on Netflix. Get hype!

>The story takes place during the Danish invasions of Britain, when all but one of the English kingdoms are conquered. The protagonist of the series is Uhtred of Bebbanburg, born to a Saxon lord in Northumbria, but captured and adopted by the Danes. The name of the protagonist comes from the historical Uhtred the Bold

Thoughts? Let's discuss this norsepilled show ITT heh

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An Esoteric Commentary on the Volsung Saga

>counter-currents.com/2018/08/an-esoteric-commentary-on-the-volsung-saga-part-i/

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Happy Samhain!

How will you be observing this time of the year fellow heathens?

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Shared folk awareness astrally induced into our blood - Is it possible?

Hereditary remembering (also: hereditary memory or heritage awakening, german Erb-Erinnern) is a conceptualization of Ariosophy marked by Guido von List and describes the biologically inherited collective memory of our ancestors since the proto-germanics.

The concept of hereditary memory has some loose resemblances to that of reincarnation, but the followers of the latter instead believe in memories from a past, repeated life - Contrast this with hereditary memory which rather sees these metaphysical flashbacks as memories or consciousness rooted in the inherited experiences of the ancestors, contained within our DNA itself.

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Why is there no /asatru/ chat room or discord channel? I really want to learn more and banter with you guys and this board is slow as all hel.

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Are all non-heathen religions doomed to be nihilistic and encouraging mediocrity?

The Abrahamic ones, Zoroastrianism and select Dharmic ones all more or less say reality on this earth is either foul, hopelessly flawed, an illusion, or otherwise there to be endured until they reach a far superior afterlife or otherwise go beyond it.

As far as I know, religions like those of the Mespotamians or Early Egyptians didn't have any sort of positive afterlife for the masses even among just devout worshippers (see Mespotamian afterlife being about the same as life). This surely would have encouraged one to show his excellence in the world around him (be it in war, the arts, the sciences…).

Meanwhile the Abrahamic religions preach of escape and encourage mediocrity (see the lack of accomplishments from Achmed, Christians who aren't White, Jews who aren't Ashkenazi).

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How does one remain chaste and celibate (until marriage) when you're surrounded by lewd and willing women? And also porn everywhere? I live in a country where girls love tall, white men and I always have a girlfriend. Fornication is inevitable.

is this haram in asatru or am i worrying pointlessly?

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Genetics and Asatru

I just got my 23andMe results back. I thought I was 25% Eastern European (I knew about one Ukrainian great grandparent and one from either Poland or Ukraine) with the rest being Western European, but apparently I'm a pretty even split between Eastern and Western European. 0% Ashkenazi, not even a trace. Am I white enough for Asatru? Is it reserved only for Northwestern Europeans?

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Opposing Views 2017

This thread is for pro-christian and anti-pagan guests to discuss their opinions.

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Pagans are Henotheists

Historically, asatru pagans were henotheists who thought the Christian God was legit and powerful, just like their other gods, they just didn't follow him.

First, you should accept the possibility of the Christian God as probable and legitimate. Second if you honor the ways of your ancestors as a good pagan should then you should respect and pay homage to the Christian religion.

If you have hatred for Christ and his teachings, then you're more like a modernist atheist/nihilist, not a traditionalist or pagan…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism

Peace

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Germanic 8yo swedish girl pulls 1,500yo sword from Swedish lake

>.rt.com/news/440397-sword-lake-sweden-ironage/

An eight-year-old girl made an amazing discovery when she unearthed an ancient sword thought to be from the Iron Age from the bottom of a lake in Sweden.

Saga Vanecek was skimming rocks at Vidöstern lake in Tånnö, Småland this summer when she made the “spectacular” discovery.

“I was outside in the water, throwing sticks and stones and stuff to see how far they skip, and then I found some kind of stick,”Vanecek told The Local.“I picked it up and was going to drop it back in the water, but it had a handle, and I saw that it was a little bit pointy at the end and all rusty. I held it up in the air and I said ‘Daddy, I found a sword!’ When he saw that it bent and was rusty, he came running up and took it.”

Estimated to be from the 5th or 6th century AD, the pre-Viking Age sword was sitting in half a meter of water when Vanecek spotted it.

“We were both in awe,” Saga’s father Andy told RT.

“Saga had butterflies in her stomach then, and it feels almost surreal now,” he said, adding that his daughter is delighted to be able to say that she found the amazing artefact.

The next day, archaeologist Annie Rosén from the Jönköping County Museum arrived to investigate. She took photographs and placed the sword in water so that it wouldn’t decompose after being exposed to air for the first time in more than 1,000 years.

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Other than Varg and Sam who are the modern pagan prophets?

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Piece of shit board software killing older threads

Hey board owner could you fix the broken threads on the catalog's backpages as per the instruction on the 404 error page? I wanted to bump one of them with a relevant post but that fucking message turned up despite the thread still being live and indexed in the catalog kthx

Also Zundel has been kill for months now maybe take it off the announcement header

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What Triggered the Germanic Norse Vikings?

This video provides an analysis of the geopolitical situation and the state of religion in Europe before the Viking Age, with the coming of jewdeo-shitstianity.

>//youtu.be/kqTC6QE9Igs

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How Pagan Were You Today?

Hey guys I'm getting back into the movement but I don't have anyone to be pagan with. So today I went for a hike by myself and enjoyed the beauty of nature. Took my slingshot with me and almost hit a bird. I was going to take a poop in a cave but it looked too unsafe so I held it in until I got back home. What are we supposed to do in nature to like, commune with it? My partner is an atheist and doesn't care about these things.

At night I listened to some folk music like vid related, and read Lord of the Rings. I feel like I should say a prayer to the gods before sleeping and upon waking, but I don't know how to do it officially.

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About The Central Family

I'm trying to understand the family structure of Odin's family. So what is it?

The simplest reading would have it seem that Odin had a son by Jorth named Thor, and a son by Frigg named Balder, and a and a son by Gritr named Vitarr and a son by Rindr named Vali.

Using the Skaldskaparmal that list becomes enlarged, though there has been many criticisms that it was a late addition by Christian priests to position Odin as god of all other gods and thus, "there be one god, goy, and we know the most about him, goy".

The list of the supposed "Odin's sons":

Baldr and Meili

Víðarr and Nepr

Váli, Áli

Thor and Hildólfr

Hermóðr, Sigi

Skjöldr, Yngvi-Freyr and Ítreksjóð

Heimdallr, Sæmingr

Höðr and Bragi

One that stands out immediately to me as a corruption and a mistake is Yngvi-Freyr since Frey is a Van and could no way be born from an Aesir only through the race of Vanir.

Placing a name under each supposed mother:

Frigg: Baldr, Hermóðr (takes up Frigg's request to ride to Helheim first called brother of Balder), Höðr (understood as twin brother of Balder and killer), Bragi (condoned by Frigga for only using words against an enemy in a mother's scolding way)

Jorth: Meili (only Thor calls him his brother), Thor

Gritr: Víðarr

Rindr: Váli

<Mother Unknown>: Nepr (father of Nanna, Nanna was the wife of Balder, making Balder and Nanna's son Forseti an incest which Odin himself is much against), Áli, Hildólfr, Sigi (Odin's supposed "third son" and one of the few known important deities for the Franks), Skjöldr (a supposed god from the land of Scythia according to the Skjöldunga saga, only known as a boy in a boat without any oars), Yngvi-Freyr (maintaining just Frey and not possible to be a son of Odin), Ítreksjóð, Heimdallr (attested as having nine mothers, usually understood as being born in all the Nine Worlds at the same time, as a sort of guide/scout/messenger), Sæmingr

Is Frigg and Jorth the same goddess? Both have a connection to the Earth, with Frigg's more Germanic name being Fulla or Hulda comes close for another name of Jorth being Hlotyn. Also there are Latin inscriptions in the Rhineland to Hludana made during Roman conquest showing a seated goddess which Fricka is shown often as. Grimm said he couldn't find a way that Hlóðyn wasn't Hludana.

So if Frigg and Jord are the same that leaves two giantness giving birth to Víðarr and Váli. I would guess Váli is the latest son Odin has had but I can't place a time when Víðarr was born and for what reason.

Interestingly enough Víðarr and Váli have names very similar to the more ancient names of Odin and his brothers. We know much about the son of Burr named Woten but Vili and Vé much less. Either Vili or Vé could have had done with an Aesir talked about in the medieval times but more recently not as much known as Methothin/Mitothin. There was another Aesir of this time Irminsul/Irmin attested in the 12th century Kaiserchronik, where idols of the Aesir still stood. Both in their medieval times are depicted like an "Odinic" figure but have different traits from Woden himself. Were these two the brothers of Odin?

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The Ancient Germanic Pagan Roots of the Pennsylvania Dutch

>The Pennsylvania Dutch are quite unique in this country, in that they have tenaciously clung to a great many of the peasant traditions which their ancestors had brought with them from the Old Country.

This adherence of the Pennsylvania Dutch, for more than two centuries, to the native peasant customs of their German forefathers can only be explained by the fact that they did not lose their original group consciousness after they had settled in America. Instead of being readily absorbed by the new environment, as were the countless individual settlers from other German, and non-German, peasant communities of Europe, the Pennsylvania Dutch possessed in the peasant traditions of their old homeland a cultural force that was sufficiently strong to shape their new environment into a peasant community of distinctive character. In achieving this, they were substantially aided by a very happy coincidence: the amazing similarity between their old homeland and Pennsylvania. This similarity not only extends to the physiognomy of the landscape but also to climate and soil conditions. There is hardly a region in the Keystone State, which has not an almost exact counterpart somewhere in southwestern Germany. Such exceptionally good fortune allowed them to continue in their new home, with a minimum of adjustments, where they had left off in the Old Country. Nothing, in the new environment, was so essentially different as to estrange them from their native peasant views and practices.

The barn symbols here discussed occur in America exclusively with the Pennsylvania Dutch peasantry. Hence one may expect some light on their origin and significance from analogous occurrences in German peasant art which, like the peasant art of any part of Europe, is a depository of prehistoric and pagan values otherwise long obliterated.

There is ample evidence that these various symbols that occur in European peasant art, inclusive of the Pennsylvania Dutch area, have their origin in a Cult of the Sun that during the Bronze Age was practiced ‘in Ireland on the west and throughout the greater part of Europe.’

The most careful and methodical exploration of Bronze Age sites, throughout the entire European continent, over many decades, has proved that ‘the Sun Cult must have been in honor throughout Europe for at least 1,500 years, and was consequently one of the most enduring religions the world has known.

>Cont. at //renegadetribune.com/the-ancient-european-roots-of-pennsylvania-dutch-barn-symbols/

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Wolves may have first become Germanic Man's Best Friend in Europe

Scientists have used some new tricks and old dogs to show that thousands of years ago, wolves may have first become man's best friend in Europe.

Researchers extracted DNA from ancient wolf or dog fossils and compared it with DNA from modern dog breeds and wolves. Until recently, labs didn't have the kind of genetic tools they'd need to work with such old dog DNA and do this kind of detailed comparison.

One surprise is that most domestic dogs are more closely related to ancient wolves than modern wolves. "It's these ancient wolf populations, now extinct, probably residing in Europe, that are the direct ancestors of domestic dogs," says Robert Wayne, a biologist at the University of California, Los Angeles.

His team's new analysis, in the journal Science, suggests that European wolves became dogs somewhere around 18,800 to 32,100 years ago, before the start of agriculture.

Wayne says that wolves probably started growing closer and closer to the hunter-gatherers who roamed Europe back then. Perhaps the wolves fed on leftover carcasses, and the hunters found them useful in some way — maybe the wolves were good at finding prey, or could alert hunters to danger.

>youtube.com/watch?v=8ZodHcZEGR4

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Now cant you people see that nordics conquered areas and converted themselves?

That there were no great pagan discrimination?

Pic related

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physical excellence = mental excellence

How is it possible, in our modern age, for men to ignore weightlifting and physical development? When we have so much free time available and information and opportunities to become our optimal selves.

I hope none of you look weaker than him.

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Ancestor worship

Does /asatru/ venerate their ancestors?

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Define European Pagan culture in contrast to European Christian culture.

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God is Norse

Terry Davis: God is Norse?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CNjWI5Mdvg

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Jewdeo-Kikeshitstainity action: Report Finds 100 Priests in One City Ran Horrific Pedophile Ring, As Gov’t Looked the Other Way

Pittsburgh, PA – As a scathing grand jury report reveals that hundreds of Catholic priests in the state of Pennsylvania sexually abused young children, a portion focuses specifically on Pittsburgh where nearly 100 priests are accused of running a pedophile ring where they helped each other prey on helpless children with no oversight.

The report claims that at least 99 priests in the Pittsburgh Diocese were involved in the pedophile ring—nine of whom were not named—and they received help from local officials who refused to explore investigations into the abuse because it was considered “bad publicity” for (((the Catholic Church))).

>renegadetribune.com/report-finds-100-priests-in-one-city-ran-horrific-pedophile-ring-as-govt-looked-the-other-way/

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Does Loki = Lucifer

Luci - fer # fer : means carry in Latin

Luci # simple sound change of "c" pronounced as "s" to "real k" sound

Luki # Loki has been known as "Lucky" in folklore, change "u" to "o"

Loki

Is that why the Ancient Romans didn't know any stories about him because he was known more up North? Such a word was only adopted by the Romans in their Latin, whereas Greek languages continued to use phosphorus to attain the same meaning. Does anyone know when the word "Lucifer" was adopted into Latin? Interestingly the Romanian language still preserves the meaning of the word "luci" but its pronunciation is wrong.

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What does /asatru/ think of the Caucasian paganism revivals? Especially in the Chechens, Abkhazians and Circassians? While its a shame the Soviets split up the Circassians to where now more than half of them are in Turkey to probably miscegenate with the cockroaches, what's left of all of them has survived Zoroastrianism, Christianity and Islam to some extent racially and in the Nart sagas.

Their pantheon while much more degraded than that of Northern Europe has some interesting cognates:

Woyriya: Odin - has many hounds, eagles circle him, with spear on horseback. In one of the tales it is said, "Tales about him abound, and such a lord just cannot be vanquished!"

Tha: Donar - while no depiction of him still exists Muslims and Christians within those regions have started praising him since the 90s representing him by a T they call the "hammer cross". Many have faced beatings or death by Muslims where Imams declare its adherents idolaters. There was even a prolific killing of one of its priests Aslan Tsipinov in 2011.

>>"Tsipinov was shot because he headed a group of pagans and idolators who worked to revive ancient pagan festivals, and because he openly and overtly opposed Islam and Muslims. … The term mushrik derives from the Arabic shirk, the sin of idolatry or polytheism: the one sin that in Islam is considered unforgivable."

>>"All such persons risk death at the hands of insurgents unless they repent."

Tlepsh: Frey? - has a sword which fights for itself and a loyal servant who acts in bringing his belongs to others, akin to Skirnir. In this story this Frey character isn't trying to woe Gertr but instead wanting to slay Yamina.

The picture is of Kabardians who up until Communism came every year whether they be Christian or Muslim would put on masks for a sacred hunt, very akin to the Wode Hunt in Germany which survived until the end of the Great Patriotic War.

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Germanic Vikings Rising: How Neo-Bolshevists Created Their Worst Enemy

Col. Walter T. Richmond is the penname of the author of Hasta la Vista Europe and Vikings Rising. After graduating basic and officer training at the top of his class, and serving in a variety of emergency, law enforcement, and disaster response capacities, Richmond was commissioned a colonel in the 1990s. He then left uniformed services and worked in various television, radio, communications, and media-related fields.

He returns to discuss his latest book, Vikings Rising: How Intolerant Leftists, Violent Commies, Liars, Psychopaths, Fake Newsers, and other Darlings of the Main Stream Media Unleashed a Movement.

>//.youtube.com/watch?v=O9fCS0ctN84

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Judeo-Bolshevist Heatwave Reveals More Ancient Germano-Celtic Sites in Bretonia/Western Doggerland

>/youtu.be/0zn9rZP-rZw

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Pagan Prepping Thread

Let's have a thread about survivalism in accordance with our beliefs. If you give some thought to it, the germanic farmers from days of yore were pretty much preppers too. Their villages were more or less completely self-sufficient. Everything they needed to live and sustain themselves and their offspring they grew within the viccinity of their settlements. They were very much like northern american natives when it came to using natural resources and leaving next to no residue/pollution behind, in sharp contrast to the romans whose civilization already arrived at spenglerian industrialist proportions by the time they had expanded to the Rine.

I am firmly convinced that if our folk is to survive in the 21st century and beyond, we must embrace the ways of living of our ancestors once more and supplement/fuse it with 21st century technology, like for example 3D printing and electronic information sharing technology, and of course also prepping itself.

Here are some good links to get you started on this

>The hyperborean garden - Where the Archetype of the Nordic “Wehrbauer" cultivates his native soil as well as his ancestral blood.


http://artamanen.tumblr.com/

>The Pagan Sanctuary on the survivalist boards


survivalistboards () com/showthread.php?t=170902
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New to Asatru

Hi, I recently (past 6 months or so) converted to Asatru from christianity, but I honestly don't know much about it other than some of the basics. I've read about half of the Poetic Edda and I've studied Germanic history fairly in depth, but that's about it. I own all the sagas and Eddas and whatnot, but I really need some knowledge on how to practice the religion. What books do y'all suggest to find out what I need to know? I know there are a crap ton of takes on Asatru, and I don't want some new agey, leftist bullshit. Also, anyone have info on Celtic religion?

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Greenpilled Celto-Germanic Druid Astrology: What’s Your Tree Zodiac Sign?

>renegadetribune.com/celtic-druid-astrology-whats-your-tree-zodiac-sign/

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Migrating To Mewch

Hey /asatru/ board owner of /fringe/ here.

I'm migrating my board to Mewch.net … I'm still setting it up and I've also joined the development team (working on the front-end) there and they are very responsive and listen to me and I see some serious future there. I've already created a couple of CSS on there and it allows high-resolution flags so I have 32x32 flags on there and a lot of other cool stuff going.

I recommend you come visit and help me with setting up /fringe/ on there by contributing more flags (flags can be animated as well which is cool as fuck) and also that you claim /asatru/ on there and make a clone of this board there.

My Mewch Boards:

https://mewch.net/fringe/

https://mewch.net/boytalk/ ( parody of /girltalk/ )

https://mewch.net/cancer/

This site seriously has some amazing growth potential and a real future not to mention a much better userbase than 8chan. It also has cool new features like "enable realtime" where you can see how many people are browsing a thread at a given moment and you can see them typing their post before it's submitted.

If you guys don't bother then I'll just claim /asatru/ myself and hold it for you until you're ready to receive it.

If you migrate early to Mewch you'll be able to become one of the top boards on there and have greater influence than here on 8chan.

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Name evidence that the races can coexist together in the longterm without war or other conflicts

Oh wait, you can't.

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Pagan Attire General

Let's have a pagan fashion and clothing thread.

What's some appropriate stuff for an adherent of the norse faith to wear for spiritual, casual and other occasions in the 21st century? Post your suggestions, ideas et cetera.
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The Genetic Link of the Viking-Era Norse to Central Asia: An Assessment of the Y Chromosome DNA, Archaeological, Historical and Linguistic Evidence

>.davidkfaux.org/CentralAsiaRootsofScandinavia-Y-DNAEvidence.pdf

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Spirit Guides and Fylgjas

The aryan germanic Norsemen believed that every man had his fylgja, follower, a spirit intimately related to him, and that died when he did. It did not always follow–it often preceded him to look into the future and foretell what was to be. When the fylgja preceded anyone it was possible to stumble over it. When a certain Thorsteinn was seven years old, he came running with childish impetuosity into the room of one Geitir. In so doing he tripped and sprawled on the floor, whereat Geitir laughed. Somewhat later, Thorsteinn asked what had occasioned this outburst of merriment; whereupon the other answered: “I saw, what you did not see, as you burst into the room, for there followed you a white bear, running in front of you, but when it saw me it remained stationary, and you stumbled over it.” This was Thorsteinn’s own fylgja, and Geitir concluded from its appearance that the lad was destined to great things.

The fylgja was often seen in animal shape–an interesting reminiscence of transmigration; for though the belief in the metempsychosis of the human soul had been given up, the idea lingered on and attached itself to the companion spirit. The fylgja showed themselves sometimes in the form of men, but also in that of any beast which represented the character of temperament of the man it followed. Brave men had their companion spirits in the shape of bears or wolves. That of a crafty man appeared as a fox. A timorous man had a fylgja in the form of a hare or a small bird.

>.renegadetribune.com/fetches/

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Greenpilled Vanir-Approved Cooking and Asatru Recipes General

ITT let us discuss the various ways in which to procure tasty aswell as norse-derived greenpilled meals in accordance with our eddaic beliefs.

Remember; Preserving our folkish identity includes passing on this ancient culinary knowledge aswell!

I'll start off with this authentic norse germanic viking recipe here;

How to make viking-era flatbread

>hurstwic.org/library/how_to/viking_bread_recipe.pdf

Let's share our dank asatru recipes and cooking tips ITT now fams

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Energies And Rituals

It may be that we are not aware, but as individuals, we have a great importance in the Multiverse and in Creation. (…) Each of us as has certain amount of personal energy. It is also important to remember that each of our actions, words and thoughts are energy. So we have all a role to play and we can all bring changes into the great Wyrd’s Web.

As individuals we also can, like the acupuncturist’s needle, serve as interface for the cosmic, multiversal energies.

We should imagine our Folk as a great organism and each of its members as a cell of this great body. I think that we are all aware that this body (our own Folk) is becoming ever more sick due to the degeneration of a lot of its cells.

>Cont. at; .odinic-rite.org/main/energies-and-rituals/

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Do you even Keto bro?

Do you think the Ketogenic diet now being known to be the default of our ancestors gives it more credence to be promoted and followed?

Also Bracken was found and it would help to fight parasites. How often do you make sure you don't have any parasites?

>>5,300-year-old Iceman's last meal reveals remarkably high-fat diet

http://archive.is/IEEuZ

How do you ready yourself, "for when the time comes"?

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>average asians visit little European town

>the h'white men can't resist

does Asatru have a way to promote eugenics and convince our brothers to stay pure and chaste?

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Prove that white supremacy is part of our religion, where does it say that?

Pro-tip: it's not.

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Odinic Rite dead?

Anyone know what happened to the Odinic Rite/what they've been up to as of late? Their website hasn't been updated for almost a year now… Or are they just not as active anymore as they were back in the day? I have a pretty hard time believing this considering the recent upsurge in popularity that folkish heathenry has been enjoying. They should be buzzing with new members and activity

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>materialist, relativist female becomes a trad-christian wife and receives the blessed life

Good or bad?

Think asatru will ever reach a point of being culturally significant and able to change lives?

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High Quality Folkish Heathen Propaganda

I feel a bit saddened by the serious lack of any dedicated, consistent, high-quality asatru propaganda efforts drawing fellow potentially like-minded white europeans to our socio-spiritual cause.

The youtube channel of the Odinic Rite for example has mostly just a few handheld camera videos with no narration or any guiding commentary, save for that one video with the british guy in a black shirt talking about Tolkien for two minutes and stuff.

We may be (at least on paper) among the fastest-growing european spiritual movements today, but we still decidedly lack a unified approach to our multimedia endevaours. We could grow and reach critical mass even faster, but for this to suceed we need to have people producing our media who actually know what they're doing.

ITT let us discuss on how to enhance audiovisual asatru agitation and the likes, also let's think of some pro-white greenpilled heathen hashtags as well while we're at it.

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PAGANISM IS NOT NORDIC

So i want to learn you all kids a lesson in History, You all seem convinced that Paganism asatru is Nordic but let me tell you why that is not.

The Nordic people existed in Scandinavia for over 10 000 years possibly migrating from Atlantis, their religion was the bear cult

The aryans came from Mount Arat, in Turkey, - They spread out and conquered their way into europe and India,

What you all have to note however is that these Aryan invaders and frankly migrants never CONQUERED GERMANIA, And specifically not Scandinavia, they were defeated.

- As varg Explains here

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lHBmjOz1oc

So what does this say, Well that Scandinavia should not be pagan. Its an Immigrant religion, Now not only an Immigrant religion but it also is a direct proof of religious subversion into the European peoples, - let's get more into this.

>Now that we have proven Paganism is not Nordic let us continue

Now secondly, Paganism Asatru, is not Even an Aryan Religion, Let me tell you why that is.

The Aryan Migrations happened 5700 years ago, They spread out And conquered Europe and India as We declared before, Now the funny thing is, That paganism started 3000 Years ago! There's nearly a 2000 year gap! Now what this means is that these people did not get their religious beliefs from the same root of the Indo-European peoples, But the true origins of paganism is far more about subversion than our religious heritage and as a Nordic man, Not heritage.

It comes from Babylon, it is clearly noted that that is when Babylonian Paganism started! In that religion they have Nimrod As Oden, And Ishtar As Freyja,

Now this makes PAGANISM not European, But it is also more JEWISH than Christianity!

For this religion was formed by Khazarian Jews that were expelled from Judea/Palestine by God for their pagan worship, and they continued their practice under the oppression of Babylon where they developed the religion fully, then this religion spread and SUBVERTED it’s way into European peoples, the clearest example out of this would be the abundancy of Sex and Cum magick, and Saturn (moloch) Worship

Now before you ban me atleast have civil discussion and try to argue instead

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>tfw no nordic goddess wife

>tfw no rural life style

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When I masturbate I like to visualize the indigenous cultures of asia minor, Iran and India. I picture their way of life: peaceful, agrarian, effeminate, matriarchal and egalitarian. Every generation living identically to its predecessor in idyllic pastoral bliss.

And then I think of the INDO-GERMANIC ARYAN BWC BULLS. TALL. BOLD. BRASH. Piercing eyes bluer than the wine-dark sea. Wearing corslets of shining brass and wielding engraved swords forged by their Chieftains, riding their great war-chariots pulled by swift Stallions. They worship different gods, gods who are like them: Warriors.

They butcher the disgusting protomen and burn their villages and holy places, taking their wives and daughters and despoiling them, planting the next generation of warriors in their eager wombs, utterly destroying their languages and replacing them with this new Indo-Germanic Aryan tongue and a new masculine patriarchal order, ultimately leading to complete assimilation. I ejaculate with them, my vital life force gets forcibly excreted from my body and I collapse, spent.

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Religion

Hello anons, I'm attempting to formulate an idea, so let me know what you think. I'd appreciate any feedback:

Religion

The benefits of religion are many. Religion is positively correlated with birthrates, social cohesion/ a high trust society, and personal happiness.

A religion should always aim for the truth. Otherwise it is vulnerable to empircal attack and can be rejected by it's adherents. This has happened with Christianity in white nations.

What is worthy of veneration and also "true"?

>one's people (genetics, ancestors)

>nature (the earth, the soil, the sun)

>virtu (strength, honor, courage)

>wisdom

>beauty

And probably some other points I have missed.

All these are objects or ideas which certainly exist and are worthy of veneration. Of these, the one most important is one's people. I do not have an arguement to support this, but I hypothesize that anyone I ask would say the same. The argument can be made that you can't have one's people without nature, the what does nature matter without one's people. The same applies for the other items.

Notice this list contains no dieties. Why should dieties, which cannot be shown to exist, take precedence above one's people? Even if a religion supports the prosperity and continuation of one's people, why would you place the diety first and the people second?

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pancake asatruar

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Heathenry and LGBTQ+

What's the board opinion about LGBTQ+?

It's a well known fact that pagans in ancient time tolerated homosexuality and even openly engaged in such activities. The Celts, Romans and Greeks were practicing pederasty all the time.

It's also scientifically proven that homosexuality is completely natural. Some scientists say that up to 10% of the population has SSA. (Same Sex Attraction)

So why is modern heathenry/paganism very divided on this matter?

Do you think that some neo-pagans have adopted the homophobic teachings of christianity?

What should be done about it?

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Soldiers of Odin

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3465598/Islamists-form-Soldiers-Allah-group-Norway-response-controversial-Soldiers-Odin-reveal-uniform-featuring-ISIS-logo.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline

"The Soldiers of Odin was formed last autumn and have been patrolling streets in several Finnish towns 'to protect the Finns from the threat of asylum seekers'.

Earlier this month, a group of Soldiers of Odin were seen on a vigilante walk through the town of Tønsberg in southern Norway.

During what is believed to be the first appearance of Soldiers of Odin groups outside of Finland, some 14 'soldiers' walked around the town on Saturday night."

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Spiritual expiriences

So this sticky claims that objects are just that "objects"

But I certainly feel an interaction with several trees when I touch them.

I also had several phyical spiritual expiriences etc.

I hope I am not the only one who reasonably believes in physical forms of the Gods or spirits.

This cant be proven by any scientific method by definition as the spirits only interact with certain people and dont need/want general knowlege about them.

>inb4 wanting to get some kids money

ultragay disciples can fuckoff, just like cult fags

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>>1770322 (another board)

Is it this Video?

(the girl who called in to the Quite Frankly podcast)

https://youtu.be/sPNXnCe9bgM

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How many Christians are ashamed of having non-White descendants?

Trick question.

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>Stephen McNallen: Metagenetics – An Update

Ancestry matters. Most Asatruar will agree with that statement, but fewer will understand that the ancestors are with us, now and always, because of the time-transcending nature of the metagenetic bond. To the extent that rebirth occurs within the family line, we are those ancestors, manifested again in Midgard! Furthermore, that bond is special – it is closer than our bond to non-ancestors.

We are not “one.” Although there is a level on which every person is connected through the collective unconscious of humanity as a whole, the closeness of the connections varies immensely. Indeed, to some extent we are linked to all life – but that hardly causes us to value protozoa, goldfish, and camels as much as we do our brother or our father! The degree of connection is determined by similarity.

Continued at http://renegadetribune.com/stephen-mcnallen-metagenetics-an-update/

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svd.se/svenskar-de-forsta-europeerna

>Google translate:

The Scandinavians are more closely related to the first Europeans than, say, French or Germans. It shows the mapping of the "first européen '- a 37,000 year-old skeleton.

The skeleton belonged to a man who lived in Kostenki in today's Russia. The survey, which was recently presented in the journal Science, shows that the man is considered to be a European.

From a genetic point of view, he is a European. In fact, he is more closely related to the Danes, Swedes, Finns and Russians, than the French, Germans or Spaniards, says Eske Willerslev, director of the Center for GeoGenetik at the University of Copenhagen and one of the researchers behind the study, the Science Nordic.

The purpose of the survey was to find out when the dividing line between the peoples who became Europeans and Asians occurred. Together with other finds, including a bone from Siberia, scientists believe that this distinction arose sometime between 37 000 and 45 000 years ago.

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Is it sacrilegious to make a goddess your waifu? I'm thinking about making Athena or Skaadi mine. What would they think of it? Is fapping to a Goddess desecration or worship?

After all, depictions of deities are idealized forms, as are 2d women, so it makes sense to use a 2d depiction as an icon to venerate a deity. Whereas 3d women represent the real manifestation of femininity, goddesses represent the archetype; that is the physically nonexistent "essence" of femininity towards which women should ideally strive. Real things cannot exist without an archetype since it is the archetype which defines the nature of the real thing, and without the archetype there would be no point of reference by which to define qualities such as masculine or feminine. So actually archetypes are "godheads,'" and often opposing dualities (light vs dark, male vs female, life vs death etc). That in mind, we can then understand shades of gray and intermediate states by comparing them to the spectrum of opposing archetypes. That means goddesses must by nature be devoid of masculine qualities since the represent the purely feminine end of the spectrum, while real women are intermediates with masculine qualities. This is also a theological pointer suggesting gods and godesses must exist, since real people exist than pure archetypes must also exist to qualify them; since real women exist and have feminine qualities this proves femininity exists in the abstract and suggests there must be at least one goddess if not multiple by which to define reality. So goddesses might actually be more real than 3d women

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What is your opinion on non-European or non-Norse forms of paganism/polytheism? Do you think of a revival of paganist faiths would have a positive influence on parts of the world other than the west?

Japan's shintoism could be seen as a form of paganism and their society seems to be much more peaceful and traditional than that of other Eastern-Asian nations such as China and both Koreas.

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I really think that the most "true" morality is that of a man who is so dedicated to quality and bettering that it transcends his self so that he would want others to be the best that they can be too, even his enemies or those who might later become them. naturally its seen by the meek as "evil" as it doesnt cower from suffering in the same way that they do, but listening to the complaints of the meek gets you nowhere good. an ideal world is one without the accusation of evil or one in which people are at their best?

not sure where stuff like this goes, general discussion or OC thread i suppose.

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Information Gathering Thread

Post your favorite websites, articles, blogs or books you've read, podcasts or radio you've heard or videos you've watched about Asatru in this thread.

This thread will help new users learn about our ways, by putting in one place the best material out there.

Asatru Essentials: >>13
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What's the Heathen solution to the Christian question?

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Bone trove in Denmark tells story of 'Barbarian' battle - May they rest well in Valhalla

Thousands of bones from germanic boys and men likely killed in a ferocious battle 2,000 years ago have been unearthed from a bog in Denmark, researchers said Monday.

Without local written records to explain, or a battlefield to scour for evidence, experts are nevertheless piecing together a story of the Germanic people, often described by the Romans as "barbarians" for their violent nature.

Four pelvic bones strung on a stick were among the remains of at least 82 people found during archaeological excavations at Alken Enge, on Denmark's Jutland peninsula, indicating an organized and ritual clearing of a battlefield, said the report in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The site, which has been studied since 2009, has yielded the earliest discovery of "a large contingent of fighters from a defeated army from the early first century AD," said the PNAS report.

The bones are extremely well preserved," co-author Mette Løvschal, of the Department of Archaeology and Heritage Studies at Aarhus University, told AFP.

>//phys.org/news/2018-05-bone-trove-denmark-story-barbarian.html

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Remote Viewing, Viking Style

I was doing experiments with divination, random number generators, and gematria which led me to a couple of new sites including this one:

http://www.viking-z.org/index.htm

I have been reading it for a few days. It is interesting to me, a little messy and raw, and not perfect but the man has written a lot and I find some of what he says corresponds with my own experiences and knowledge. It's not good enough for me to recommend to anyone actually wanting to learn stuff but for the experienced and discerning occultist who can pick out the misinformation and get past the odd use of language you may find it intriguing.

I have been primarily interested in what he has had to say about telepathy. I plan on doing my own write up on the matter, I guarantee though I will be much clearer and easy to understand than this guy.

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would r34 cuckold fantasy disney pornography be allowed in an asatru society?

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Questions Thread

Ask your Asatru related questions in this thread.

This is also a /meta/ support thread for this board.
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Walpurgis

How the fuck does one celebrate Walpurgis? I've been trying to dig for context and ideas, and short of a full-on ritual here's what I can surmise:

>spring/fertility celebration

>give offerings to Freyja/other Vanir

>bonfires

>something about protection from witches who dance on a mountaintop

>the Wild Hunt are somehow involved

Short of the old praise-ask-offer ritual, what do my fellow /asatru/ars do? Or do you just celebrate May Day instead.

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What is /asatru/s opinion on suicide?

Personally, I feel it would be too odd for the gods to punish people for failing their personal battle. Some people just can't get through with life.

Then again, a corpse is worth less than a person, even if a slave.

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Reminder that true Asatru does not accept homosexuality. And if you call yourself an Asatruar and are okay with gays, then you're doing it wrong.

From Germania by Tacitus:
>The Assembly is competent also to hear criminal charges, especially those involving the risk of capital punishment. The mode of execution varies according to the offence. Traitors and deserters are hanged on trees; cowards, shirkers, and sodomites are pressed down under a wicker hurdle into the slimy mud of a bog. This distinction in the punishments is based on the idea that offenders against the state should be made a public example of, whereas deeds of shame should be buried out of men's sight.

Faggots are condemned by the gods and our people. When the happening happens and we establish our own small pagan communities to survive, make sure you set up near a bog so this filth can be executed like our ancestors would want.
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Paganism Group

I'm the one who makes the Paganism generals on 4chan, this is a pagan discord all around so it has channels for non-Asatru pagans who such as Slavic, Celtic etc. This board is kinda slow so if you want to join this group here it is https://discord.gg/w68tguT

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Ideal wife

What are the ideal qualities of a wife and what are red flags we should watch out for?

Is it okay to marry a christian or buddhist girl if she seems to be good?

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Thoughts on Azov Batallion and its pagan practices?

Is it legit? I've heard rumors of satanists trying to infiltrate it and turning it into a sadistic retard camp. Pagans need to stop accepting to rationalizations of sociopathic satanists, tbh. "Lucifer is Prometheus bro, that's why we've gotta smoke meth and herald a world of homo sadist aristocracy".

It's also confusing because they signal with the wolfsangel, black sun, this WW2 NS modernized gear, but there's a lot of conflicting info. Some sources say there are Arabs and Jews serving in it.

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God of War 4 will be norse themed and have norse Gods and mythology.

>Kratos now lives with his young son Atreus in the world of the Norse gods, a savage land inhabited by many ferocious monsters and warriors. In order to teach his son how to survive in such a world, Kratos must master the rage that has driven him for many years and embrace his newfound role as a father and mentor.

Sounds like an undegenerate game.

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Germany: Treasure trove of Harald Bluetooth unearthed

A 13-year-old boy and an amateur archaeologist have unearthed a "significant" treasure trove in Germany which may have belonged to the legendary Danish king Harald Bluetooth who brought Christianity to Denmark.

Rene Schoen and his student Luca Malaschnitschenko were looking for treasure using metal detectors in January on northern Ruegen island when they chanced upon what they initially thought was a worthless piece of aluminium.

But upon closer inspection, they realised that it was a shimmering piece of silver, German media reported.

A dig covering 400 square metres (4,300 square feet) that finally started over the weekend by the regional archaeology service has since uncovered a trove believed linked to the Danish king who reigned from around 958 to 986.

Braided necklaces, pearls, brooches, a Thor's hammer, rings and up to 600 chipped coins were found, including more than 100 that date back to Bluetooth's era.

This trove is the biggest single discovery of Bluetooth coins in the southern Baltic sea region and is therefore of great significance," lead archaeologist Michael Schirren told national news agency DPA.

The oldest coin found in the trove is a Damascus dirham dating to 714 while the most recent is a penny dating to 983.

The find suggests that the treasure may have been buried in the late 980s – also the period when Bluetooth was known to have fled to Pomerania where he died in 987.

>.livescience.com/62323-king-bluetooth-treasure-found.html

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Greetings kinsmen, Tyr's blessings be upon us all.

How did you guys pick your heathenish path and job skills in life? I'm thinking of being a crafter, a farmer, or a musician/bard irl. Each one has its pros and cons, not sure which would be the most reliable if the "collapse" ever happens. I wouldn't mind living like Varg, in the long run, basically off charity and donations for something I create that doesn't take much time.

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Allergies and Hay Fever

Can we have a thread about allergies and hay fever and how to overcome them? A fifth of white world population actually has hay fever and I don't yet see how these people could be integrated into sovereign pagan tribes. In my opinion, allergies are a early sign of the weakening of humanity and foreshadow the poison inflicted dependency and degeneration to come. I mean, allergy-rates are dramatically rising and the affected are dependent on medication. To me, it is a serious impediment to get closer to a life according to my ideals.

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Merging Asatru and Rodnoverje into one Norse faith

It's time to end the artifical lingo-cultural split between """slavs""" and germanics once and for all, for it massively weakens our race and its mental strength.

Whole books can be filled with the obvious similarities and historical factoids proving that "slavs" and the Rodnovery belief system are descended directly from eastern germanic vikings, yet some thick-headed defeatists still deny it to this day due to the mental scourge known as pan-slavism, a bullshit myth retelling of eastern european history which originated in the 19th century and caused two world wars so far.

For example, how can we go about incoorporating the "slavic" gods of Rodnoverje into the norse germanic pantheon proper? Should we just assume that Perun is another name for Odin and that Perun's axe is basically related to Odin's hammer directly, e.g. a part of the same weapon set worn by Odin when riding into battle?

ITT let us discuss how we can merge Rodnovery ("slavic" neopaganism) and Asatru into one coherent belief system so as to combine and channel the collective the related greenpilled forces and mental energy going along with it into the survival of our people in the 21st century and beyond.

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Hey guys.

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as a genetic viking and third degree animist-pagan I only go after the most robust women with the most girth and widest childbearing hips. Anything less than that is degenerate and beneath my tribe. Am I right?

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grooming

So beards are gay now. Being clean shaven is definitely more traditional and pagan.

Can someone shoot Varg an email and let him know?

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This board needs to talk more about science, tech. modern militaries and the future.

There's no reason to be like Varg and just think about spears, D&D and wheat fields all day.

Judging by Odin's character and myths he would be well versed in modern science, engineering, and probably psychaedelics too.

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where does asatru/heathenism say we can't take on asian wives, or multiple wives? I'm having a hard time with the manual and rulebook

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Who is Weev?

I don't know much about this man but he claims to be an arbiter for the old gods. He has been trying to bring all racist pagans to him. He has also in the past claimed to praise Loki. Would you defend him?

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Disillusioned Christian

I've been a Messianic Jew / Christian for some time now. But the more I've worked through things the more disappointed I feel. Its almost like as soon as I explored my faith I was confronted at every corner. So, why do you believe what you do?

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New Varg video, heathens

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Kindreds

Why the fuck do all the "kindreds", especially in Midwestern USA, look like this? Filled with "pagans" who aren't even Norse descendants and all a part of The Asatru Cuckmmunity. Absolutely disgusting

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Trickster Holiday

Should us asatruar dedicate April Fools to Loki or would the rest of the pantheon consider revering him haram since he's such a shitlord that's always causing trouble for them?

Do you reckon Loki would appreciate april fools in the first place? Why or why not?

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Belief In Wotan

>.renegadetribune.com/belief-in-wotan/

When a Wotanist attempts to speak of Nordic ideals to his or her blood kin who do not yet believe in the Norse religion, they are often met with derision, hate or, in some instances, even violence. To us who have grasped the spiritual and cultural greatness of our Euro-Tribe ancestors, such attitudes seem ridiculous and without rhyme or reason; but we tend to forget that so many members of our folk have been completely misled and thoroughly corrupted by the false ideas of Judeo-Christian slave morality and the death-wish religion called Christianity.

We forget the long, rough and rocky road over which many of us have trodden before we arrived at our present clearness of vision; a road that was obstructed at every turn by alien concepts that perverted and degraded our precious heritage. We forget the hardship we suffered in the attainment of each successive stage of our own road to self-discovery and self-reliance; we forget the mental misery of those who, weak of will, slid back into the suffocating embrace of subservience to the organizers and supporters of the Christian creed and its alien ‘philosophical science’, its alien ‘values’, its alien ‘law’, and its alien ‘god’.

I have personally lost much in the way of closeness to friends and family while on my journey to Wotan, but I have also gained much that is invaluable. I have gained the knowledge of who I am, what I am of, and where I am headed.

Who am I? I am a believer in the faith of my blood, — What am I of? I am of the Nordic-Aryan Folk. — Where am I headed? I am headed toward a new world — a world in which the offspring of my blood and that of my future mate will unfold and grow; a world in which the unspoiled genes and ideals of our Aryan ancestors shall blossom and ripen unfettered in the most fertile setting that I am able to provide.

We Wotanists do not beg of our Gods. We struggle alongside them, shoulder to shoulder, in the sure knowledge that the awesome power they represent will be on our side in the never-ending battle to forge strong ties of kinship, to hammer out a better world, and to prepare ourselves for a brighter future in which our folk shall no longer be beholden to a death-god or slave-religion but proudly honor our own Euro-Tribe Gods, our own Euro-Tribe heritage, and our own Nordic Germanic Aryan Folk. Hail Wotan!

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is taking steroids degenerate or virtuous? they're legal in my country btw.

I wanna get jacked, like a viking! Yay or nay?

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On The Harshness of Nature

Modern men from their sheltered existence often see Nature as cruel and unforgiving. This is often transferred over into pagan ideas, especially that of the mother Goddess and Woden, the Alfather. In my recent Piece “Woden of the Wild Wood” some of Woden’s “darker” elements are seen. So I have decided to write a short piece just to put this apparent “darkness” in its true context.

The Wild unknown places, from our modern vantage point, appear, as savage in their construction. We watch, from our comfort, the natural world outside and see the powerful prey upon the weak; some poor adolescent barely able to run chased down mercilessly by a mighty predator. Then comes the question, what righteous power could allow such apparent cruelty? Similarly when we look at how our ancestors lived, who dwelt in such places, it is hard to imagine how they coped in such conditions, with no one to call when you are in trouble, no supermarkets to fill your cupboard when the hunger pains kick in. Looking back it can appear very bleak, every day facing an almost impossible struggle for life. Yet they did not curse their reality, but held it in reverence.

To understand this, first we must strip ourselves of all distraction and get down to the roots of life.

>.renegadetribune.com/on-the-harshness-of-nature/

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Ostara Info General

The word Ostara is just one of the names applied to the celebration of the spring equinox on March 21. The Venerable Bede said the origin of the word is actually from Eostre, a Germanic goddess of spring.

Easter - A Pagan Celebration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tihearwe3Uc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3x_bDlt9r4

Spring Equinox Music Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLCXrBooYo4
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Jew York Times article on Asatru

Who Owns the Vikings? Pagans, Neo-Nazis and Advertisers Tussle Over Symbols

Jew York Times article, by Richard Martyn-Hemphill and Henrik Pryser Libell

>March 17, 2018

Edgy Larpers

>RUNTUNA, Sweden — The cries of “Hell!” “Hell!” ringing out across a snow-clad landscape attracted a curious crowd of weekend tobogganers. At the foot of an ancient Viking burial mound, one of the prime sledding spots near the Swedish village of Runtuna, a circular gathering of pagan worshipers was completing a sacrificial ceremony.

>The religious service involved a wooden hammer held aloft, various invocations to Norse deities and ceremonial drinking from two large black horns, one brimming with beer, the other with nonalcoholic mead. Two women led the service, which honored female Norse gods and spirits.

Cucks & Fags

>Per Lundberg, a spokesman for Forn Sed, pointed out that symbols are always open to interpretation, as he showed a wooden Thor’s hammer that was fashioned in a more phallic shape than other iterations

>Strong pushback has come from many corners of the Nordic countries, whether from sports fans or grass-roots organizations like “Vikings Against Racism.”

Ourguys

>Vikings “symbolize everything about Northern Europeans,” said Haakon Forwald, a spokesman for the Norwegian chapter of the group. “We are adventurous, we take risks and settle where no man would dare to settle"

>Formed in 2014, and granted its status as an official religious organization in 2016, the group claims to have over 800 members and is currently raising funds for a pagan temple, which Mr. Sonevang said would be the first in Sweden in over 1,000 years

Hilarious Jewish spin tactics

>One point where some of the more liberal or apolitical groups embracing Norse mythology may find some surprising common ground with the nationalist or neo-Nazi adherents is in a love of nature in general, and of locally grown food in particular.

>Helene Loow, a senior lecturer at the Uppsala University, and one Sweden’s leading experts on fascism, said Nordic extremists connected clean food to the purity of the land, body and race.

>“I have hardly met anyone from these movements, neither the old ones nor the young ones, who are not serving me organic food, and lecturing me about the dangers of fast food, the dangers of McDonald’s,” Ms. Loow said.

>As a consequence, a neo-Nazi group like the Nordic Resistance Movement is occasionally represented at local farmers’ markets. “When people meet them in real life, they are not their media image. People get surprised. They are nice, they are talkative, they offer you a lot of good food,” she said.

>“It’s the same trick,” she added, “that extremists play everywhere: Build on local trust.”

<OY VEY!!! THOSE EVIL NAZIS ARE JUST PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT, WORKING OUT, AND EATING LOCAL ORGANIC FOOD TO TRICK YOU

Archive:

>https://web.archive.org/web/20180317211408/https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/17/world/europe/vikings-sweden-paganism-neonazis.html?referer=http://www.drudgereport.com/

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Runic Overview: The Letter and the Symbol

The Northern European Runes form the basis of the earliest forms of writing in the northern lands, but for me they are much more than this. Before they were used to represent letters, they were powerful symbols in their own right. Each Runic symbol containing within it multiple layers and hidden meanings. Yet, so much of the academic delving and amateur investigations surrounding these enigmatic symbols focus much of their attention on them as simple letters. Before we delve deeper into Rune “theory” we must first understand what is lost when a Rune is reduced to a simple letter.

So what is a letter? Letters simply represent sounds, that form the basis of words, which in turn are used to construct sentences. Each collection of letters (words) has a given definition, which itself can vary related to the context it is used. Via this method we can construct thousands of words, in which to write about and define our existence. This precise method of communication leaves little to the imagination, making it ideal for clear and well defined communication. It is itself a form of reductionism, letters being the smallest part from which you can create multiple bigger things, such as words, sentences, etc. It is no wonder that when this form of communication firmly took hold, that reductionist science and philosophy was born. Reductionism is the idea that all things are the sum of all their parts and by the study of each part, you can determine the “thing”. Reductionist ideas form the basis of modern science and to a large extent modern thinking and without the humble letter none of this would of been possible.

All this at first glance may seem great and reductionist ideas are without doubt a magnificent analytical tool, however the concept of reducing everything to its various parts does have its own unique drawbacks. This way of thinking for me is rather mechanical, each part is seen as simply a cog in the machine. By observing the cog outside of the machine we gain knowledge of the cog, as it is in isolation, which will help us better understand the machine. The main drawback is nothing exists in a vacuum; in nature all things are connected.

>.renegadetribune.com/runic-overview-letter-symbol/

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12 names of Alfather

What do you think of 12 names of Alfather from chapter "Of the Highest God"? What translations of these names do you know and which translation is the best? Can these names be linked to 12 signs of zodiac? Do these names represent 12 Aesir?

I made separate thread because it is not clear to me if this particular Alfather and Odin are the same.

These names are:

Alfather, Herran or Herjan, Nikar or Hnikar, Nikuz or Hnikud, Fjolner, Oske, Ome, Biflide or Biflinde, Svidar, Svidrer, Vidrer, Jalg ol Jalk

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>Living the 9 Noble Virtues while being a stay-at-home father

(…) Being an Odinist, we set high standards to our way of life; it isn’t just a faith we follow, it’s a life style. We honor this by living our lives according to the Nine Noble Virtues. This is by no means a small feat to accomplish, nor is it simple. On the contrary, it can be very difficult indeed. Now I have accepted my fate of unemployment and take this opportunity to work on raising my children, teaching and promoting my faith within my family and honoring the 9 noble virtues in my fullest capacity of my being. It is with that I review those virtues and how they still apply; though my position as the provider may have changed it still stands in my new role.

.odinic-rite.org/main/living-the-9-noble-virtues-while-being-a-stay-at-home-father/

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Racial Consciousness

From Elsie Christensen’s periodical “The Odinist” (1984)

A race is a group which is set apart from other groups by spiritual and physical characteristics genetically determined and available only within this group.

Race, thus, a natural fact, a biological given. A ‘standard man’ simply doesn’t exist. And never did. The concept ‘homo sapiens’ is merely a contrivance. Distinct racial differences can be clearly observed in the Anthropoids of the Middle Pleistocene age. Prof Carlton Coon has stated that the transition from early to modern man occurred at different times among the Europeans, Asiatics and Negroes. And fully independently from each other. During the last Ice Age, five racial groups, all with distinct racial characteristics, settled in Europe, although these differences were not as marked as those which exist today between Europeans and Negroes, Asiatics and Australoids. A unified human race will never be created because even miscegenation results in new races that are as equally distinct from each other as the old races.

Race is, over a period of time, constant. It extends far into the past. Race has a much longer history than nations or countries. We have discovered that 35,000 years ago a Cro-Magnon type man inhabited Europe. The bone and skull structures of these people are quite similar to the Germanic skulls seen in Roman ruins or those which, like the Tollund-man, were unearthed in tarpits and which are identical to those seen among Germanic peoples of today. This race is thousands of years old. We inherited their racial characteristics from our ancestors through our parents and we will pass them on to our children and future generations.

>Cont. at //renegadetribune.com/racial-consciousness/

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Arguments to the contrary

quote by Golden One

>The month of March, called Mars in Swedish, which is also the Roman name for Ares. My name Marcus, is also Roman. So every March I feel additional Thumos. Any arguments to the contrary are totally invalid

Golden One is strong, massive, and his hair is great and this post is not against him, but it is about paganism in general, and to which god month of March is related.

Many, including wikipedia, think March is related to Mars, it is wrong. This month is related to the god of the sea/dreams, probably in your language you have some words related to the sea similar to "march" like latin "mare".

When you want to link gods to the months, you have to take astrology into account, and in march, precisely from 19.02 to 20.03 is assigned to pisces, ruled by Neptune.

Next month will be related to Mars, sign of Aries, ruled by Mars who is Ares.

Ancients have some arguments against me too, like Rustic Calendars, the Altar at Gabii, and Manilius (associations of signs/months and gods), but they all are wrong. If you want to really understand without any sources where truth is, compare people you know, born in pisces and those in aries, and you will see for yourself, that aries has thumos, (specifically dynamis, and thumos is leonian but generally it is something similar, which makes one active) but pisces is daydreaming, artistic, spiritually inclined.

See for yourself traits of people, and then link them to each god of 12 olympian or other gods, if you use olympian gods remember that Hestia is Dionysus, add Hades for Scorpio, use Ouranos instead of Hera and Menoetius instead of Aphrodite (guard of cattle) for better clarity, and also note that Athena is Neptune.

Real tutelary deity of March should be Minerva/Athena/Cybele.

The function of god of Pisces is to replenish chakras, that's why Agir has "9 daughters". Hope someone understands.

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What is Odin to you?

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The Odinic Rite's Take on Depression And Mental Health

The Black Sun of Alchemy in Depression and Dark Nights of the Soul

>.odinic-rite.org/main/the-black-sun-of-alchemy-in-depression-and-dark-nights-of-the-soul/

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#Havamalwitches

Yes, this is indeed true.

http://www.sheathenry.com/havamalwitches/#comment-61

"This past week #Havamalwitches has exploded across social media as Heathen women have begun telling their stories of sexism, misogyny, abuse, racism, ableism, and bigotry. Of course, there have been a whole bunch of bigoted bastards who have told us to sit down and shut up. If they can’t see the irony of this, I do hope they realize that we know who they are."

Day of the bog when?

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>Greenpilled asatru-related astral journeys/experiences and their possible meanings

ITT let us share various asatru-related dreams we had, be they concicse or cryptic in nature.

I'll start with a quite peculiar one i had last night.

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ROME CONTRA JUDAEA ; JUDAEA CONTRA ROMA

https://chechar.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/rome_judea.pdf

>The purpose of this book is to give an idea of what happened to the Ancient World; of how Europe fell into the Middle Ages and,

especially, to what extent what happened in Rome 1,600 years ago is

exactly what is happening in our days throughout the West but magnified a thousand times by globalization, technology

and, above all, the deputation of psycho -

sociological and propagandistic

knowledge by the System.

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All-purpose Heathen accopmplishment and Abrahamic non-accomplishment thread.

>Christianity built Europe

>Islamic Golden Age

>We Jews Iz Scienteests N Sheet

You might have heard each. Well, this thread debunks such claims while also showing the feats of the heathens.

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One Book

Here's to hoping this sparks some discussion. I apologize in advance if this was already discussed.

Christians, Jews, and Muslims all have one book. Well, they have plenty of books on the subject of their religion, but they are supplementary to their one and essential book. Books that dictate the values of their faiths and how to venerate their gods.The Christians have the bible, the Muslims have the Quran, and the Jews have the Torah. If your house caught aflame and your electronic devices were all dead, what book would you save at the cost of the rest?

This may seem a bit melodramatic, but I think it's worth discussing. We only have so much time in the day between work, hobbies, and other demands. To study any great work one needs time. Time to soak in and process what they're actually reading. I'm not saying reading a lot of books is bad. It's just how much can you read and take to heart, if you have several dozen of books under your belt?

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National socialism

Since I've become redpilled about christianity not being compatible with national socialism I have looked at the Aryan religions and I've come to the conclusion that it is indeed our religion. However, how many of you are actually natsoc and or redpilled about the JQ, immigration women etc?

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Asatru altars

Post pagan altars and places of worship in this thread.
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Physical preparedness

Haven't seen this topic being discussed here.

Is Varg right in assuming that weight lifting is pointless for a survivalist lifestyle? Would, say, training like a soldier be more beneficial in the long run?

Consuming a big amount of calories does seem counterproductive if your aming to live "off grid" but the benefits of weight lifting can't be denied.

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Central Sweden: 8,000-Year-Old Skulls on Spikes Dug-Up From the Bottom of a Lake

>Archaeologists have never before encountered this grisly phenomenon in Mesolithic Scandinavia, and they're hard-pressed to explain it.

//news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/02/human-skulls-mounted-on-stakes-river-mystery-mesolithic-sweden-spd/

Archaeologists digging at the bottom of a former lake in Sweden have discovered an ancient burial site containing 8,000-year-old human skulls mounted on wooden stakes.

The gruesome find at the Kanaljorden site in the town of Motala in the central Sweden has left researchers baffled as, according to a study published in the journal Antiquity, it the challenges modern “understanding of the handling of the dead during the European Mesolithicera.”

The skulls showed signs of blunt force trauma that was “probably the result of interpersonal violence,” the study read. However, some injuries show signs of healing, meaning that blunt force trauma is not necessarily what killed them.

Some 11 adults, only one of which had a jawbone, were found at the ancient burial site. While it was difficult for researchers to determine their sex, at least three were female and six or seven were males. Interestingly, the injuries differed according to sex. Men tended to have truma on the top or front of their head, while women were injured at the back of their heads. Also unearthed was the entire skeleton of an infant who was likely stillborn or died shortly after birth, the researchers said.

Remains of wooden stakes were recovered from two of the skulls, “indicating that they had been mounted.” One of the stakes had broken. The other was at about 1.5ft (47cm) in length. Astonishingly, a piece of brain tissue was also recovered from the skull impaled with the broken stake. This suggests that the skull was cast into the lake soon after death where it was preserved.

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'Shall Odin or Christ Inspire the Salvation of Europe?'

"The mythic archetype associated with a nation can make or break its destiny.

by Everte Farnell and National Vanguard correspondents - May 17, 2017

http://nationalvanguard.org/2017/05/shall-odin-or-christ-inspire-the-salvation-of-europe/

AGAIN AND AGAIN, the peoples of Europa conquered the other cultures they encountered. Before the modern era, they were well-nigh unconquerable. And yet now they seem to be lying down and allowing Middle Easterners of very low type to take over the European continent.

Why? What possible reason would such a people allow such inferiors to invade, rape their women, kill their people, pillage their social programs, and destroy their property?

Why would the once all-conquering Europeans behave in such a suicidal way? I believe the answer is 1,500 years of Christian belief. Your first reaction may be to dismiss me — but stay with me for a moment and we’ll think this through.

First, Christianity isn’t native to Europe. It was certainly adopted wholeheartedly (though often initially by the bloody sword), but it is indeed a foreign religion. All of the putative sacred places mentioned in its holy books are, for example, on another continent.

I understand that we later Europeans eventually deemed some places sacred in the name of Christ, such as the healing shrine in Lourdes, France. But, except for some outlier sects who disagree, there are no places that Jesus or his disciples were reported to have visited in Europe.

The simple fact is this: Europe adopted this foreign religion and consequently admitted, on some level, that another people was more enlightened, intelligent, spiritually attuned, and more deserving of respect than our ancestors. These “others” were, we accepted, a uniquely great people who found the “truth” — and Europeans were very lucky indeed to be given a chance to learn that truth from our superiors.

Aside from mass murder and the sword, one major reason European people converted to the foreign religion was because their kings converted. Most often, the kings converted –- and betrayed their people –- for the most un-spiritual of reasons: to increase their families’ power. The “divine right of kings” was a purely Christian invention. Prior to Christianity, rulers were sometimes said to be descended from the gods — but no family line had an inherent right to rule."

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my name is Ezekiel obadiah smith, my parents were crazy Mormons (not fundamentalists just crazy)… should I adopt a new first and middle name? I feel like I'm fucking amish or something. Wotanist btw.

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What do I do?

What's an American of mixed European heritage to do when trying to get more involved in paganism?

Should I just kill myself?

American paganism in general just seems pozzed as fuck, and even if I did move to Europe, it's not as if I can lay claim to kinship with people from Ireland or Poland.

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Critique of Christianity for a newfag.

Hello /asatru/.

Let me just start by saying that I am fairly new here and don't know much about your beliefs. That is not why I am here though. I don't doubt that many of you can make good arguments as to why we Europeans should return to our native religions.

We want to preserve our race - It makes sense to worship the gods of our blood.

The logic is sound and reasonable. But what I want to know is how and why so many people are returning to worshipping the old pantheons in the first place. Obviously, there must be something with what we have currently that makes people reject it. That is christianity. That is what I want to know. How have christianity weakened Europeans? What damage have it done to us as a race, both physically and spiritually? What parts of its teachings and theology goes against our interests?

In short. I want to learn why and what Christianity have done to us. I would make this thread on /pol/, but every time anyone question some of christianity's teachings, the /christians/ sperg and shit up the thread so much that you cannot have a discussion there. It does not help that the mods are on their side either. /pol/ is a Weeb-Christian circlejerk at this point.

Also are there any books out there that goes into this topic?

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You are realizing that Hitler was perhaps the last shot for the White Man to return.

The White race has been suffering through the toxic fallout of the degenerated Roman Empire. A possible escape after their failure only came around at the time of Hitler’s birth and his attempt to rescue it from itself. He failed thanks to the Eternal Anglo, Commies, and Americans.

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Celtic Paganism?

What does /asatru/ think of the various forms of Celtic based paganism out there? Asking as a Celtic Reconstructionist myself, primarily following the Irish pantheon.

It's interesting to me that the Celtic and Norse peoples had such a mixed relationship, both trading openly and occasionally making war with each other until the christian era.

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Norway’s Olympic Skiers Giving In to SJW Pressure, Removes Germanic Tyr Rune From Olympic Uniform

>/sputniknews.com/europe/201801311061237928-norway-nazi-attacking-viking/

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Star charts

Can someone recommend a book on the stars/constellation/zodiacs?

I've recently been fascinated with the constellations lately, the stars just look brighter for some reason and seem far easier to view as one object instead of unrelated dots lately.

Jewgle of course brings up mamy book options, but i would prefer to skip the low garbage and propaganda. Still trying to figure out when the stars were relabeled with their modern interpretation on little dipper and crap instead of ursa major.

I've seen a handful of star constellation images using what i assume is a runic script, namely "orion" being one i don't know the name of.

I'm really not sure where ome group of star signs end and another culture's begin

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Meet the Picts - Facial features of ancient pagan native inhabitants of Scotland reconstructed for the very first time by researchers

>Researchers at the University of Dundee in Britain have successfully reconstructed the face of a Pictish man for the first time, offering a valuable insight in the racial ancestry of this otherwise mysterious people who were the original inhabitants of Scotland—and who were so feared by the Romans that the famous Hadrian’s Wall was built to keep them out of the Empire.

The facial reconstruction was made after archaeologists excavating a cave in the Black Isle uncovered the remains of a man who had been murdered more than 1,400 years ago.

The scientists, all from the Rosemarkie Caves Project had been expecting to find some evidence of human occupation of the cave extending back over a long period of time, but they were astonished to find the skeleton of a man buried in a recess of the cave, covered in a layer of sand, a press statement said.

The bones were sent to an expert forensic anthropologist whose team have been able to describe in detail the injuries he sustained as well as digitally reconstruct what he looked like.

A bone sample sent for radiocarbon dating indicates that he died sometime between 430 and 630 A.D., commonly referred to as the Pictish period in Scotland.

/barnesreview.org/meet-the-picts/

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how do people react when you tell them

Odin and Thor are real and influence our lives and created the white race, and you make offerings to them and worship your ancestors and nature or whatever?

have u converted anyone

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>tfw Persians, North Africans and some non-Semitic Middle Eastern peoples were white, had their own indigenous ethno-gods

>tfw semitic jew-god worshipper arabs destroyed the genetic integrity of these regions and their faiths

>tfw if it wasnt for the sea of ethnic and spiritual shit that was the rise of islam we would consider all these peoples our fellow aryan brothers

>tfw there are still a few gems left that didn't get shit on

>tfw europeans (scythians, sogdians, tocharians, sarmatians) were even on the borders of china

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where do i start with heidegger?

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NYE 2018

What will the new year bring for germanic european heathendom, fellow friendos?

Will this finally be the year where the overtonesque mass awakening of our people will take off and wherein the collective pineal astrally-based epigenetically-linked racial soul of our folk's mighty body will finally awaken from its deep slumber, setting the white race free in the process?

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Asastru for Antifa

Greetings /asatru/

Let me start of by apologizing beforehand, as i'm not used to making threads. But i wanted to share this with you all.

I happened to stumble upon this site today. Are any of you familiar with these people?

https://godsandradicals.org/

Long story short, it's a group of pagans trying to mix paganism with Marxism. Basically. They promote multiculturalism, race mixing, and ofcourse label Stephen McNallen a horrible fascist racist bigot. They seem to have quite a big following on their twitter, surprsingly.

I cannot even begin to describe how much i hate these people.

A few key articles:

https://godsandradicals.org/2017/11/28/on-unity-and-power/

https://godsandradicals.org/2017/11/28/on-unity-and-power/

https://godsandradicals.org/2017/09/14/asatrus-racist-missionary-stephen-mcnallen-defend-europe-and-the-weaponization-of-folkish-heathery/

https://godsandradicals.org/2016/04/06/rainbow-heathenry-is-a-left-wing-multicultural-asatru-possible/

Happy Yule, everyone.

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Does anyone know what happened to that youtube channel which explained slavic folklore critically? It started only a few months ago and went from the creation myths to their gods and archeological findings.

It was a really great channel but it seems to have gone down recently as I can't find any of the videos.

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Asatru reading list chart

Is there /asatru/'s essential chart. Despite searches I couldn't find it

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Red Ice Yule Special - Myths & Forgotten Traditions of the Winter Solstice

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2015/12/RIR-151218.php (The intro ends at 11:14)

Also a new Insight episode from Red Ice Creations:

Insight - The True Origins of Kwanzaa, Hanukkah & Christmas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUDT1L2Iy9I

http://www.redicecreations.com/TV/2015/Insight-Origins-Kwanzaa-Hanukkah-Christmas.php

In the multicultural west we are told to say Happy Kwanzaa, Happy Hanukkah and Merry Christmas or these days Happy Holidays as to not offend others. Lana tells about the true origins of newcomer holidays such as Kwanzaa and Hanukkah. Where did these holidays originate? Are they original? Why are they also in December, like Christmas? She'll also talk about the true origins of Christmas, which is entirely borrowed from Yule, the pre-Christian European celebration of the Winter Solstice in the Northern Hemisphere. Kwanzaa, Hanukkah and Christmas are all imposters, culturally appropriating from the ancient European Winter Solstice celebration. Learn about the myth, symbolism and tradition of Yule.

Red Ice Yule Special - Myths & Forgotten Traditions of the Winter Solstice

In this special Yuletide episode, most of the Red Ice crew – Henrik, Lana, John and Melanie (we missed you, Fredrik!) –joins together to discuss the significance of the winter holiday season today and what this important time of year meant to our ancestors. We talk about our childhood memories of Christmas and family teachings, or lack thereof, of pre-Christian traditions surrounding the winter solstice and return of the sun. Henrik describes the ancient Norse pagan ritual, the Blót, which included sacrificial offerings at Uppsala to the gods Odin and Freya, and Lana tells the mythical story of the Wild Hunt, with the flying 8-legged horse, Sleipnir. We get into the legend of Krampus, the shamanic aspects of Santa Claus, the significance of the colors of Yule, the burning of the Yule log, and other symbols central to survival. We receive a history lesson on the origins of Kwanza and Hanukkah, and we look at how Christmas has been culturally appropriated and manufactured into celebrations that hijack the ancient energy of northern European solar traditions. Then, we discuss how Hanukkah has taken center stage at the White House and we listen to a clip from Obama’s big liberal propaganda party that included PC holiday blessings from Susan Talve, a Rabbi from the Central Reform Congregation in St. Louis. Our conversation rounds off with thoughts on the importance of storytelling and practicing rituals, along with rediscovering and honoring the ancient Norse essence of generosity and clan loyalty.

Relevant link:

The Real Yule Story, The Northern Shaman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVCFF6NUq2U

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So /asatru/, I have an idea that might be quite beneficial to us.

I would assume that 90% of this board does not think highly of Christianity, and would much rather Christians return to more traditional Aryan religion, whether that specifically be Asatru, the Roman or Greek Pantheons, Hinduism, etc.

We can obviously cite examples such as the crusades against other Europeans, the sack of Constantinople, and the complete Jewery that is present throughout the church's history. However, I think an extremely strong argument against Christians can be made using their own holy book - the Bible.

I used to do a bit of reading in the Bible, and from reading on this page, and on /cucktianity/, I have found several Bible verses which really fuck Christianity in the ass.

So let's use this thread to compile a list of Bible verses that can be used to weaken the hold Christianity has on our Volk. Post anything that could be of value, whether it be scriptures that exalt the Jew or confirm Yeshua's strong Jewish ties, sections of passages that suggest or command degenerate or otherwise harmful behavior (degradation of family values, for instance).

The Christian can argue with psuedo-history and lies all they want, but when their own holy book shows the true nature of their faith, they will struggle to defend it.

>"If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor and you will have treasure in heaven" (Matthew 19:21)

Self explanatory. Giving away your shit to random poor people isn't going to help you, them, or society as a whole, and even worse, this specific passage can be used to validate Socialism, Marxism, and other degenerate, Jewish, egalitarian concepts.

>“For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law–a man's enemies will be the members of his own household. Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.” (Matthew 10:35-37)

If that's not commanding the degradation of family values, I'm not sure what is.

>"For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile." (Romans 1:16)

It seems as if the Bible states that the Jew is given primacy to the Gentile.

>http://biblehub.com/genesis/1-1.htm

This website is pretty useful as well, as when you go to a specific verse in the Bible, it gives you similar verses found in other parts of the Bible. You'll be amazed at some of the shit you'll dig up.

Pic stolen from /cucktianity/.

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Odinist Poetry Competition 2016

Just stumbled upon this on the Odinic Rite site, what does /asatru/ think?

"When Odin took a sip of the poetic mead, Wyrd’s web reverberated throughout the cosmos and set the stage for the enlightenment of our folk. Wisdom, golden in hue, cascaded down from the Allfather, revealing the God force within and around us.

Poetry is divine inspiration. Those in tune act as antennas to something that cannot be understood but which offers a glimpse of Odin Consciousness. It comes from without as much as within.

It is with all this in mind that the Odinic Rite proudly presents our first poetry competition, open to members and friends of the OR."

http://www.odinic-rite.org/main/odinist-poetry-competition-yule-2266/

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The Main Differences Between Abrahamism and Heathenism

The Judeo-Christian/ Islamic (Abrahamic) god teaches you: if you don’t believe and serve him, you will end up in a place forever separate from him. You will burn forever in a lake of fire after judgement (Revelations 20:4-15), and you are judged by him. In the Heathen view, the afterlife is action based. You are judged by your honour and the legacy you leave in life. You are not judged by some deity, but by your kinsmen and the generations after you. Instead of eternal bliss or damnation, you stand with your ancestors, and become part of their legacy.

>Continued at: renegadetribune.com/differences-abrahamism-heathenism/

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The European Legacy Of Our Germanic Racial Family

Two thousand years is about sixty (60) generations. The people who lived back then now have a lot of grandchildren. That is because all families have common ancestors. The more descendants one has, the more their genetic legacy lives on. Generations later (perhaps a few centuries later) these descendeants of this common ancestor will have even more descendants with his or her genetic legacy. And this hypothetical common ancestor has a common ancestor with someone else, and so on.

>With this we see a race is an extended family, because all the members are blood related through these ancestral ties. Our specific population (race) gained its uniqueness when we speciated from the other human populations of the world and started our own story, our own legacy. With this we gained our own collective soul. Our racial soul was gained through the survival,and sacrifice of our ancestors.

Through the genetic legacy of our forebears comes a spiritual legacy. Our European ancestors survived the Ice Age in Europe. Through this struggle, the intelligent, industrious, selfless, and strong survived. The stupid, selfish, and weak perished. Their offspring were based more on quality rather than quantity. That is what made our race what it is today – a race of explorers, inventors, and conquerors. We developed this Faustian Spirit. We push the limit, and overcome challenges. We inspire beauty, for higher civilization. This put us on the path to become Übermensch.

Hamingja is the honour that lives through a family. It is also the spirit that is reborn again and again. As our race – the Aryan Race – is an extended family, this legacy and honour of our collective racial soul is reborn through our blood. The Spartans, Vikings, Saxons, Picts, and even the Roman Legions still live on through us. The challenge is to awaken this Aryan Spirit.

>Cont at .renegadetribune.com/the-european-legacy/

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Asatru; A Native European Spirituality

Just read this book and really enjoyed it. Think it is a must read for any beginners or people on the fence. It gives a good rundown on everything to do with Asatru and even has background on McNallen and his involvement in the Asatru movement in the US. Also good material on why Asatru is superior to Christianity.

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The Larping Needs To Stop.

Seriously, I'm getting real fucking tired of people getting driven away from the faith because Cletus from South Carolina wants to pretend he's an ebin vikingses. Stop pretending like you are going to "destroy christianity and take back europe just like adolb hidler!!!". We need to do what our ancestors couldn't, organize, and actually work out a plan to take back europe from the muslim hordes and eventually replace christianity in our homeland. We can't just sit around lurking on 8chan talking about the jews and how we're going to start a commune or something. Hell, we can't even do what Varg did and isolate ourselves from society. We need to actively shill on other boards and websites, attracting and converting people. We need to arm ourselves and wait until the time is right to strike Europe. Take up arms, lose some weight, ditch the cargo pants and a band t-shirt and get ready.

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Ancient centralo-eastern germanic pagan shaman burial site uncovered in Slovakia not far from the austrian border

>spectator.sme.sk/c/20697218/archaeologists-theorize-found-body-is-shaman.html

Slovak Archaeologists found an interesting discovery when researching the area of the transport infrastructure for Jaguar Land Rover and accompanying industrial park in Nitra. They found a human skeleton from the Bronze Age that was probably a shaman. He was not buried in a standard grave but placed in hole serving a food storage.

“When the hole was not used anymore, people backfilled it with soil and this person was placed or thrown inside later. We don’t know whether he was thrown in or placed in, because the human was lying on his stomach,” said Klaudia Daňová, a scientific secretary from the Archaeological Institute in Nitra, as cited by the SITA newswire.

“Bronze decorations were placed near his ears. They were connected by little ear bones,” added Daňová for SITA. Archaeologists suggest that those are poultry bone but an analysis will be done to make sure.

“The decorations are unusual, we don’t have anything analogous to them yet,” stressed Daňová as quoted by SITA, adding that the placement of the body on his stomach is also unusual.

Scientists hypothesize that the body came from the older Bronze Age, however, a specific time frame will be given after radiocarbon analysis of the bones. Anthropological analysis will also determine gender, reveal diseases and maybe the cause of death.

“A necklace made of bones was the sign of a shaman,” said the head of the Archaeological Institute in Nitra Matej Ruttkay, as quoted by SITA. He added that shamans used to be very important persons in past times.

“They solved problems when the weather was dry, when someone was ill. The question is, if they were really solving problems or the society just believed it,” said Ruttkay, as cited by SITA.

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Afterlife

you do believe in a soul and life after death, don't you?

what determines the fate of your soul and where it goes and why do you exist at all, why were you born (besides the obvious mechanical events of two adults copulating).

I hope no one here is actually an atheist/materialist/nihilist aka leftist and thus fan of the "Enlightenment"…

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Coopting watch

Not too long ago Mcnallen stepped down as the head of the AFA. promoting Matt Flavel to its new leader.

This is all well and good…but then I saw this picture. Matts wife """""looks a certain way""""""

Maybe its nothing.

With prominence of ethnic identity movements on the rise for Europeans, i am only trying to remind us all that our vigilance can never end. With Nathan Damigo of Identity Europa steping down and then promoting this guy named """"Eli"""" Mosley (whos real last name is """"Klein"""" We should be watchful.

Does anyone know what Matts wifes name is? Maiden name etc? Could be a bad picture of her…but i rather be cautious.

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I ask this in good faith as a practicing Heathen and pray I do not come across as trollish.

I have difficulty responding to some Christian arguments against Heathenry.

Mainly:

Christianity as a uniter of Europe against the Muslim threat during The Crusades.

and

Christianity as a spreader of some of the more positive aspects of Greco-Roman Mediterranean culture (I.e. philosophy, art etc.) Specifically, they love to throw up the argument that Christianity became based on Greco-Roman culture, which was one of the major cradles of the European worldview and civilization, while the Germanic peoples were still in the woods so to speak.

They usually springboard from the above into a screed on how Christianity made Europe great, blah blah, blah, muh Cathedrals and such.

So far, they only effective counter-argument that I have been able to come up with is the fact that though Christianity may have done some good in the short term, it ultimately has screwed us in the long term, due to Christianity, void of European roots, ultimately morphing into the Universalist worldview that is now killing the West.

Perhaps, also that Heathen culture would have eventually made contact with Mediterranean culture and engaged in a syncretic relationship void of Christianity.

Not to mention their pro-Christianity arguments amount to crypto cheer-leading for Mediterranean Pagan culture.

Further thoughts and counter-arguments?
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Why did the germanic/asatru Gods fail to protect the germanic/norse nations and peoples? Likewise why did the pagan roman Gods fail to protect rome and its citizens?

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Nature of Wotanism – The Root of Thought and Being

The place of myth is at the very root of thought and being. All races, without exception, establish an ethnic mythology upon which strength, action, culture and identity are built. Myth builds the spiritual pre-history of a society that speaks to us from a very ancient past. Mythology is one of the key elements of folk consciousness. Like the sun’s light or the air we breathe, myth reveals itself only indirectly, and each individual must make a personal effort to discover its presence at the basis of his own thinking. It suffuses our consciousness and, what is more, our subconsciousness; in short, it is a timeless truth, a truth which is sacrilegious, sometimes fatal, to question. And this applies to every sphere of personal life, for there is none exempt from the folk mythos, particularly at moments of decisive choice. The heroes one most admires give forth myths spontaneously. For we know that without Achilles and without the Iliad, Alexander would not have undertaken the conquest of the East. And without the example of Alexander, many other great men of history would have fallen short of their untapped higher potential.

With the aid of myth we resolve a thousand and one everyday problems and attain moral equilibrium. In turn there is no such thing as a forgotten mythology within a distinct race of people. It is possible to neglect practices and traditions, but there always remains the deep genetic memory, and these ancient imprints can always be recovered. Much like man, the earth, also, remembers everything and is witness to history in a way we cannot fully appreciate. Mythology serves as a valuable time capsule—not full of things, but compact of gnostic wisdom, which in the guise of stories, keeps intact our heritage of all that has lasting value.

Through the long line of ancient Aryan pagan societies, nature has always played a vital role. To understand the timeless principles of Nature’s Law is to sharpen the vision of mind and being. We can not set limits on the versatility of nature; the limitations are in us. On every level our being is an intrinsic part of the agencies that vitalize the universe.

>Cont. at .renegadetribune.com/nature-wotanism-root-thought/

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pagan symbols

You guys wear any symbols to show off your pagan power?

Where can I get a necklace like this?

And what other signs are good?

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/asatru/ YouTube

Lets get this board posting again, lads. Post your favorite /asatru/ or otherwise right wing youtubers.

https://www.youtube.com/user/ThuleProductions

https://www.youtube.com/user/ThuleanPerspective

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheLatsbrah

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Face of pagan scottish germanic witch savagely murdered by judeo-christian abrahamists is digitally reconstructed 300 years later

>.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/31/face-witch-died-1704-digitally-reconstructed/

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So I've been trying to figure out how to match up the Sun Calendar of the Germanic peoples with our current (((Gregorian))) calendar. It was a 13 month calendar, with 28 days each, that adds up to 364.

Then there is a new years day, separate from the months, that is matching up with Halloween for us. So basically I need help matching up the dates of the months to the (((gregorian))) dates.

If you want the source, I am getting it from Varg Vikernes book, which you can grab (https://mega.nz/#F!fIchVA7Y!owKwAgGKq9pgXrbVOnkeag!mJUAVLhA ) there.

Basically while trying to do it myself, I messed up and I'm getting somehow an extra day.

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nofap

I just jerked it and feel like shit, because I know jacking is for the weak.

I know many of you probably do too, and we all need to fucking stop it.

Some of you out there though still need convincing, so here's a general thread for disscussion on the general jerking and porn (both are shit, don't make excuses and just do one)

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Trump new POTUS

What effect will a trump presidency have on european heathendom/the norse faith? How can we utilize it to further our spiritual cause?

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Based vinlandian dogger called Odin survives California wildfires after refusing to abandon his goats

>cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-monday-edition-1.4356614/a-dog-called-odin-survives-california-wildfires-after-refusing-to-abandon-his-goats-1.4356619

In a pagan society it shall become mandatory to name ones' own pets after norse deities

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Now this Paganism

>" Let me tell you then why the Creator made this world of generation. He was good, and the good can never have any jealousy of anything. And being free from jealousy, he desired that all things should be as like himself as they could be. This is in the truest sense the origin of creation and of the world, as we shall do well in believing on the testimony of wise men: God desired that all things should be good and nothing bad, so far as this was attainable…For this reason, when he was framing the universe, he put intelligence in soul, and soul in body, that he might be the creator of a work which was by nature fairest and best. Wherefore, using the language of probability, we may say that the world became a living creature truly endowed with soul and intelligence by the providence of God. " — Plato

>“The soul in its nature loves God and longs to be at one with Him in the noble love of a daughter for a noble father; but coming to human birth and lured by the courtships of this sphere, she takes up with another love, a mortal, leaves her father and falls.” ― Plotinus

>“This All is universal power, of infinite extent and infinite in potency, a God so great that all his parts are infinite. Name any place, and he is already there.” – Plotinus

What's the germanic/norse equivalent to this sort of paganism? Thanks

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Restoration of Honour

Hey, /asatru/, I come to you in a time of great need. I’m currently trying to pull myself out of a deep hole, and I have a serious problem. For a few years I have struggled with addiction. I was clean for about a month and a half (that’s huge for me) after taking a vow to someone who is dead whom I greatly admire. However, after a recent emotional trauma, I relapsed. In doing so, I have dishonoured myself, but more importantly the man to whom I vowed never to use again. Can I make things right again? Obviously I never intend to use again but is there any way I can atone for what I’ve done? I care much more about the disrespect I have shown than my own guilt. I’ll already have to live with this for the rest of my life. Thanks in advance for any help.

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Wolves of Vinland/Operation Werewolf

What's/asatru's/ opinion on the Wolves of Vinland/Operation Werewolf? They seem to be a pretty good irl group to join. It's a shame they're apolitical and won't bash some Antifa skulls in. Theres also the fact that Jack Donovan belongs in a bog.

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Ancient Norse Germanic Scottish Orkney stone circles were used for ‘Neolithic parties’, study finds

‘It’s where they came back to bury their dead, have summer and winter solstice festivals, and meet a partner’

>//www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/orkney-stone-circles-neolithic-parties-study-a7957846.html

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Casting the Runes

A person who had lived in the twentieth century had little conception of the influence and powers exerted by magic in the lives of his ancestors, even up to this early part of the twenty-first century. Religious practices of the past, which usually included magical rituals, were not regarded, as they are today, as a once-a-week observance of the hypothetical existence of a supreme creator but as a daily acknowledgement of the powers of Nature which ruled the lives of men. Magic was as normal and as acceptable to our ancient predecessors as electricity is us today, and in their eyes just as vital to the sustaining of everyday life. It was pure commonsense to the ancient peoples of Western Europe to invoke their gods and placate them with magical rites in order to ward off illness, bring good luck and fertility to the tribe and maintain harmony between men and the natural forces which they regarded as supernatural manifestations of the gods.

In Western Europe, during the historical period we now designate as the Dark Ages, the most powerful form of magic was that of the secret craft of rune casting. The use of runes achieved such a wide popularity because, unlike the later magical traditions of the Middle Ages which drew their impetus from the Judeo-Christian cabbala, it was a magic system with down-to-earth symbols relating to daily life.

The scope of runic magic is emphasized by the following list of different runes taken from the Norse sagas: birth runes, healthy runes, fertility runes, weather runes, love runes, healing runes, cursing runes and death runes. All these symbols and their attendant powers for good or evil were available to the ordinary person, either directly or through the offices of a local wizard, rune master priest.

Rune sorcery was considered so potent that even the dead could be raised by their evocation. This necromaniac rite of the dead was celebrated in a popular rhyme attributed to Odin.

>Cont. at; renegadetribune.com/casting-the-runes/

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>The Germanic Nordic Legacy

.renegadetribune.com/the-nordic-legacy/

When a religion dies, its legacy can be twofold. At one level, folk beliefs and customs preserve some fragments of the past which are handed on in unbroken tradition with little awareness of their origins owning to the instructive respect rural communities feel for the ways of earlier generations. The second level, in contrast, is the creation of academic interest. This occurs when scholars, writers and artists of a far later period rediscover the pre-Christian roots of their nation’s culture, and consciously use them to pursue a political or artistic agenda. Germanic heathenism has left its legacy in both these ways.

By the year [1000?] A.C.E., the work of Christian missionaries, which had begun in Germany some 400 years previously, had penetrated even the remotest areas of Scandinavia. Everywhere the ruling classes had accepted the new faith, and heathenism was officially abandoned, although common sense suggests that the conversion was not so sudden or complete as medieval writers claimed.

Nonetheless, heathen worship was condemned, and Christian writers adopted various ways of diminishing its power. To Snorri, although they were wise and powerful, the gods were based on human kings whom heathen men thought to be divine; to others, they were demons or else mere lifeless statues. But their names were never forgotten; not only are four English weekdays named after them, but Germanic and Scandinavian languages are rich in personal names alluding to gods, to heroes, to Valkyries, and to animals, such as the wolf, that had mythical associations.

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Himmler’s Ahnenerbe: First True Effort to Define Our Pagan Aryan Past

In the 1930s, Himmler and the SS founded the Ahnenerbe or Ancestral Heritage Society, a research arm of the SS that sent expeditions across Europe and the world to investigate Aryan origins. This was an actual attempt, on the part of Heinrich Himmler and the SS, to generate a body of research and evidence that could recapture our Aryan heritage which was lost first to Imperial Roman occupation and then by Christianity. For the first time in human history, there was an attempt to re-discover true Aryan origins and to clarify Germanic prehistory. No one nation has put such an effort before or since to re-discover and document our prehistoric past. If this was Himmler’s only true contribution to history, then he should be considered a hero of our people. Although his main concern was validating Germanic Aryan origins, his research has shown that the Aryan race has roots far beyond just Celtic, Slavic or Germanic implications, but shows that the Aryan race demonstrates unity of language, ethnicity and culture going back to a greater antiquity.

>renegadetribune.com/himmlers-ahnenerbe-first-true-effort-define-aryan-past/

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Ancient Viking coffin ship unearthed in Norway (PHOTOS)

>Archaeologists in Norway believe they have uncovered a Viking boat buried beneath the city of Trondheim.

The boat, which was at least 4 meters (13ft) long, was buried in a north-south direction and it dates back to between the seventh and 10th centuries.

Archaeologists from the Norwegian Institute for Cultural Heritage Research (NIKU) discovered the remains last week on one of their final days excavating the market square.

The boast is damaged several places by pits and post holes. Cautious excavation has reveiled that there is no wood left but clumps of rust and some poorly preserved nails that show that this is probably a boat grave.

The boat also contained two long bones which were also laid out in a north-south direction.

“Careful excavation revealed that no wood remained intact, but lumps of rust and some poorly-preserved nails indicated that it was a boat that was buried here,” archaeologist Ian Reed of NIKU said in a statement.

Reed said the evidence suggests that a person was buried within the boat, but the researchers will have to carry out DNA testing to confirm the hypothesis.

NIKU’s Knut Paasche, a specialist in early boats, added that the vessel was dug down into the ground and had been used as a coffin for the dead.

“There has also probably been a burial mound over the boat and grave,” Paasche said.

>.rt.com/news/404552-ancient-viking-ship-discovered-in-city-center/

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Bachus

Is Dionysius a degenerate God? NO!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysus

>Symbols: Thyrsus, grapevine, leopard skin, panther, tiger, cheetah

>Bachus (aka Dionysius) is the God of the grape harvest, winemaking and wine, of ritual madness, fertility, theatre and religious ecstasy in Greek mythology. Wine played an important role in Greek culture with the cult of Dionysus the main religious focus for unrestrained consumption.

>The earliest cult images of Dionysus show a mature male, bearded and robed. He holds a fennel staff, tipped with a pine-cone and known as a thyrsus.

Drink up, be fertile and attain religious ecstasy m8s

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Pagans = Henotheism

Historically, asatru pagans were henotheists who thought the Christian God was legit and powerful, just like their other gods, they just didn't follow him.

So you should accept the possibility of the Christian God as probable and legitimate. Otherwise you're more like a modernist atheist, not a traditionalist or pagan if you deny him outright.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism

Peace

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What are y'all's thoughts on the Golden One? Personally I find him LARPy and Cringey at times but overall he seems to have a pretty good message.

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Pagan Apologetics?

As someone with a Christian schooling background, I know that Christians use Apologies, defenses of their beliefs, to state why they believe what they believe. I can't, however, find almost anything about something like this for paganism (explanations for why you believe, logical defenses of polytheism, etc)

I did some looking around for something akin to pagan apologetics but all I got were Wiccans calling people intolerant or rayciss and calling it a day. Some gems I've found include things like

>Nationalism=racism and bigotry and always will

Do any of you here on /asatru/ have resources for pagan apologetics/things you have thought up? I would think a topic like this would be important to discuss for anyone of some kind of faith.

Thanks

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High Medieval Christianity

I've recently been reading pic related.

I know vidya is degenerate, but while playing Medieval 2 Total War I couldn't help but find the idea of a warrior monotheism interesting if not appealing. Help me come back to the paganpill guys.

My views right now:

Early Christianity provided a parrallel society in a time when the Roman world was dying. This is very similar to today's left and right political movements (which are both religions if evaluated.)

Modern Christianity is literal jew worship + humanism.

However, Medieval Catholicism was basically a blend of European ideals and semitic ones.

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Norse & European Book Collection

Heil. I thought you anons might enjoy this thread I made.

>>>/zundel/561

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A message from Thor...

>I was camping the other night and got a drunk.

>I dozed off a bit near the fire

>Woke up suddenly and there's a dude leaning on a tree.

>red beard, kinda built

>jumped up and he was gone in flash

>spooked the shit out of me & started looking around frantically.

>grab my camp hatchet for protection.

>a little time goes by and nothing much else happens

>get this urge to write

>grab my notebook from my pack

>write this:

"Thus the Thunderer spoke:

"Long have I been with you, my people.

Long have I been your protector - your guardian.

I have given you strength and spirit to forge on during

the harshest of times and in the most severe of circumstances.

Even when you turned your backs on me to follow a weak martyr-god so that

that you might 'inherit the earth', I watched over you and granted my

strength to you. Because you are my people, I did not turn my back

on you.

When the barbarians and desert riders were at your gates it was I

that stood alongside you. And together we repelled that force.

But of late your conduct has been such that I can no longer recognize

you as the folk who once stood so proud in battle. You no longer

respect any god - nor do you seem to respect yourselves.

Your men act as women and cowards - weeping with fear and shame. Too

afraid have you become stand up for yourselves that, once again, barbarians are

at your gates yet you do nothing. You allow your women to be raped and you kill your

own children because it is the easy path.

I no longer know you and you know longer know yourselves.

I am calling to you, Men of the West, to tell you to remember me. Know that I am The Oak. I am The Mountain.

I am The Thunder and the Lightening - I am The Storm. I make that which is barren fruitful and I punish those

that would do evil. When you come to know me, you may begin to remember yourselves.

I am Thunor and you once were my people.

One day, you may be my people once again. "

I really do feel that Thor was speaking through me. The words just kept coming. Almost like automatic writing. After I finished writing I poured out one of my beers into the fire, thanked him, and went to bed.

Believe me or not, it's up to you.

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

FUCK YOU MODERNITY WHY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWMiBj0yDJg

Why are """""""""pagan""""""""" women so fucking degenerate?

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On the Laws and Language of the Germanic Peoples

>.renegadetribune.com/laws-language-germanic-peoples/

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Valhalla comic and movie

Hey Asatru people

I'm not sure if your aware or care about this series of comics and a movie by Peter Madsen but i'd like to bring them to your attention if not and you do.

They came out in Denmark about 10 years before i was born and i remember both comics and movie very fondly. I think for a lot of Danish and Scandinavian people these are the faces of our old Gods. At least for people from before 1990 i guess, younger kebab-worshiping generation probably not. But its still one of the most colorful and moving representations and serving it to kids is going to leave an impression. Which made me quiet sad when i re watched it recently and realized the heartbreaking socialist brainwashing going on.

But still though, i'd like to offer them to you, and i'd like to defend my old friends by trying to get you to view it as sometimes a misguided message but always contained in something beautiful. The writer is perhaps not so much trying to sell you the overall message as he is using the opportunity to show you everything in between. At least you should probably be in that frame of mind of your going to view it. Its a mixed bag though and there are certainly good in there as well.

And re viewing it, i got 01-11 of the comics but its in Danish. I can dump it or upload somewhere i guess but let me know. Should be possible to find it somewhere in English. From Madsen's webpage: "The award-winning Valhalla albums have been published in eleven different languages. Volume 1 has so far sold more than 100,000 copies in Denmark alone." I know the movie can be found with both English subs and audio, but let me know if need help looking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwAGt9dvZdo - Movie trailer

http://www.petermadsen.info - Creators webpage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valhalla_%28comics%29

If nothing else, this could offer a little insight about how the story is/was told here.

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Spirit & Beauty - Nudism

In this thread I will discuss nudism and how it can relate to the "white" race or rather Aryanism and how that can correlate with esoteric things including but not limited to paganism, etc.

First of all, - to people who say nudism is a subversive element today, I would agree with them, although it was not always that way and it doesn't have to be that way any longer.

When I say subversive, I mean people who are nudists not for any higher purpose, ie, not to practice our traditions as a race, or in worship/imitation of dieties, or as body worship. Rather, these people use nudity as an excuse to push their leftist bullshit. See free the nipple.

Nudism was a common aspect of all Aryan cultures prior to Christianity. The ancient Aryans who spread out from modern day Ukraine were nearly all unclothed, though it was not uncommon to wear accessories such as cloaks, fur, etc, espically in the colder climates. We, as whites, all descend from these people, from White Persians to Irish.

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Norse Pagan Prayers General

ITT we collect everything related to vocal ritual worship of the gods.

Prayer texts, prayer beads et cetera are all welcome ITT.

http://valhalska.webs.com/prayersandblessings.htm

http://www.northernpaganism.org/resources/prayers-rituals.html
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Does Asatru cover Slavic beliefs?
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QTDDTOT

In here ask questions about anything that doesn't really warrant a whole new thread. Questions can be about pretty much anything Asatru related.

My question: I am fairly new to Asatru, and have posted a thread asking for help a few months ago, I have still not decided whether or not to be an Asatrur, but regardless I have done two extreamly shitty and rather embarrassing due to the lack of quality blots. The first was summer solstice and the second was tonight. Not going to in depth, rhe first time I madean offering to Thor, and my Uropa who was in the S.S. and today due to the large thunderstorms (pics related, taken on phone so shit quality) just to Thor. Both times when I drank an amount of beer I was offering I was hit with a weird feeling: I don't know how to explain it but it felt like every nerve from my tongue fired after the I dedicated the beer and touched my tongue moving outwards to my arms, chest, legs and feet. I don't quite know how to explain it but it felt weird and very slightly uncomfortable. The only other time I have ever felt this was when I tried weed when I was 14 never did it again btw. It is far from my first time drinking, and I have had both types of beer beforehand, so I don't know how to explain it. Was it a sign that I was being observed, or that my blog was rejected?

again I know very little so please correct me if I fucked up with something somewhere.

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Greenpilled asatru retrowave

Are synthwave/retrowave aesthetics and asatru compatible with each other? Could we use this recent popcultural trend (which happens to be especially popular among the european youth) to gain more followers? Why or why not

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Pagan Cheer

How do I use /asatru/ ideas to become a happy-go-lucky pagan? I heard this song and it really cheered me up, and I realized I can be cheerful and full of joy by choice.

I don't want magic powers or tulpa sluts, I want to read some pagan/asatru/greco-roman literature that will help me develop a very optimistic, cheerful and silly, almost childlike mentality…

I believe in reincarnation and in God.

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Midsummer

Im new to Asatru and was wondering how you lot were planning to celebrate the solstice. I gather Baldur is of some particular significance on this day.

Pic is the view from a mountain trail I found recently

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PAGAN INFOGRAPHIC THREAD

I will update this thread with more infographics the more I make them. Save them and use them against Christians.

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It is time to say something many of you on this board will not like to hear. Like the Christians who dismember their canon at every turn to force it into agreeing with whatever bias they find convenient to them at any given time, so too has a faction of those who have come to our folkway used the gods and iconography of European paganism to "legitimize" your fetish with National Socialism.

Your beliefs are yours to have, no man, least of all I, can take them from you. But I am ashamed of how little you know about what Hitler was doing.

The swastika is a symbol that goes back thousands of years. It came with those who would come to be our European ancestors in the great migration. It was a symbol of the sun, a fertility symbol. Do you possess the reason to understand what this means? TO a people for whom life was brief and who could expect a full half of their children to die in their first decade, for whom infertility could realistically mean the end of a village and the blood-chalice of our lineage which holds the spirit of our beloved dead, for whom an infertile season could be an apocalypse…fertility was as holy a concept as anything could possibly be. And the sun was the keystone to its bounty. How equally holy, then, was the swastika! A symbol of deepest, most profound hope in a world which mankind had far less control of than we moderns do, and even we are often at the mercy of natural forces beyond our control.

Hitler's swastika, however, is something entirely different. His was a minimalist interpretation of the Sonnenrad, a symbol which was likely derived from hellenists or romans, and too is a derivative of the great migration that seeded all of the European lineages. What differs is in its usage. Hitlers swastika is askew and its color is not merely an aesthetic choice. It is black as damnedest night.

Hitler used runic technology, the very same which holy Odin sacrificed himself to himself for, which cost the Allfather his eye. The most primordial expression of self-existence which screamed into reality almost in pure defiance of the dreaded void of ginnungagap, runes are the fabric of reality itself! And most perversely, Hitler corrupted the effects and symbology of her Holiness, Sunna, matron of fertility, and great wheel of power material and spiritual!

He took what Odin meant for light, and twisted it into something dark. He took the secret, immense power source of Sunna's spiritual might and channeled it in a demonic way. The swastika is the dark star, a powerful, corrupt entity who's existence was sustained by hatred and the blood of innocents. Where the sun is the arbiter of fertility, the dark star is the consumer of its chalice.

Everything the swastika is stands in utter defiance of Sunna's grace. It is a perversion of her majesty and a slap to the face of something so profoundly holy that none alive can grasp her true nature.

If you are such that you agree with national socialism, then there's nothing I can do to stop you or change your mind, I think. But know what you do. Know who's face you step on when you wear a swastika. Accept that in some future you may be visited by a holy vengeance the likes of which is the equal of the power of our great mother star!

The dark star did not die with Hitler. Runic machinations do not cease their motions when their summoner dies anymore than the clock stops ticking just because the smith who forged its gears has passed. And every time you invoke the demon swastika, you invite the dark star who's entire purpose is to chew and consume, to feed. Hitler could not control it. You cannot control it.

Hail Sunna, sister of Máni, daughter of Mundilfari, keeper of the days of men, goddess of my ancestors, arbiter of fertility, giver of life, scorcher of Earth!

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List of rig

So isn't the list of rig a story about the white god, heimdall, fucking nignogs and creating the nigger race? Because the description of the thralls sounds like niggers. Flat nose, dark skin, long heel, etc. I'm hearing distant echoes and it's making me question my odinism. Explain plox.

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MEGA THREAD

Has anyone downloaded that MEGA

https://mega.nz/#F!fIchVA7Y!owKwAgGKq9pgXrbVOnkeag!7dEXGAAI

before it was deleted and he apparently became Christian? If so can someone reupload it. I need it.

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When i was younger my mother used to take me to some (i think asatru, definitely some kind of norse) bonfires as part of her faith. Now i never really believed in that stuff and she never tried to force it on me, but i feel like i missed out in life on the opportunity to rebel against the religion of my parents.

Christianity has satanism and the like, but how could i be an edgy anti-asatru? Worshipping surtr? I basically want to do a stupid practical joke to my parents whilst I'm visiting them about having adopted the opposite religion of theirs.

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/pol/ And The Christian Question

Why is /pol/ red pilled on everything, but Christianity? They act as if there Christianity is the same as mainstream Christianity. Just because /pol/ puts a nationalist spin on Christianity, it doesn't change that Christianity is inherently universalist.

Yet, any time someone tries to bring up Paganism they shout D&C, LARPER, or shill. Yes, Christianity was a major part of European culture, but so was Paganism before brother killed and tortured their brother for a foreign and semitic god. When they were done wiping out Pagans they turned to killing and persecuting other Christians.

So /asatru/ why does /pol/ remain ignorant of the Christian question?

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Visited by Odin?

I was walking on a trail pretty far back in the big south fork national park, and I was approached by an old man in a grey jacket with the hood up. While he was still about 45 feet away I saw him bend down and pick something up. As we got closer he said to me "I love this park, the trees are very nice." This is the point I noticed he only had one eye, he looked up at the trees and I saw that his right eye was glass, and didn't move. I told him that I liked the park as well, and that the trees were very nice. He started to take a step and stopped, he gave me a stone (what I'm assuming he picked up) and told me to keep it. This is the stone in the picture. Was I visited by Odin?

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Asatru in Modern English

How do you all feel about translating Asatru names and terms to Modern English words?

I've heard a lot of arguments of "sacred" language and people saying "READ ELIADE'S THE SACRED AND PROFANE" but I personally don't buy it.

The ancient pre-Christian people were telling the myths in the language of the people, not in a "high church" style language. They all knew what the names of the gods/goddesses actually meant with multiple shades of meaning, etc.

I know that the Norreana Society tried to do this in their "Asatru Edda" but from the reviews I read, they only translated some words into modern English and left other words untranslated, which is pretty odd.

Thoughts on this?

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Stephen Mcnallen in new Red Ice video

Stephen Mcnallen talks about the revival of Wotan's archetype

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIeLW8OPomg

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Rune stones

Are these wiccan-tier?

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Celtic Pagan RealReconstructionism

>feel empty inside

>wonder if religion can help fill that void

>zero faith in the modern christian, catholicuck religions of today

>not nordic so looking up Norse Paganism feels kinda weird

>since I'm Scottish I look up Celtic Paganism

>wade through the LARPy Wiccan faggotry

>read about how bro-tier the Gods were and how their outlook was basically:

>"treat someone well, but if they fuck with you or your countrymen then make your revenge on them threefold"

>actually feels great studying this stuff even though I've always hated studying

>decide to look up and see if I wasn't the only one interested in this stuff

>turns out "Celtic Pagan Reconstructionism" is a thing

>over the fucking moon

>"finally, the place for m- oh fuck no"

http://www.paganachd.com/faq/misconceptions.html#racist

https://www.reddit.com/r/Paganacht/comments/5kb8ol/are_there_any_instances_of_gender_variance_or/

>it's tumblr buzzword bullshit LARP faggotry

>no doubt they saw an image of a Triquetra and decided to research it

>saw that Wiccanry was "too mainstream"

>thought they'd call themselves Pagan to be "fresher, cooler and even more special"

>only following parts they want to and ignoring the parts that go against there identity politics

>"Maybe I'm being to cynical, perhaps they just don't know any better?"

>decide to message these folk and correct their hypocracy and blatant lies

>"Fuck off racist I don't care! You're blocked!"

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Now I plan on starting my own site soon with proper information free of political bullshit.

So if there are any Celts on this board, or in general curious and helpful folk, I would appreciate any help in gathering info and recontructing this religion to it's former glory.

Hell if one of you have started something I would love to help with it

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Ancestor veneration

Do you consider ancestor tablets a suitable way to venerate them?

Also, ancestor veneration general I guess.

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Like the page if you've got ZOGbook bruhfams

https://www.facebook.com/larpypaganmemes/

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Thoughts on other Aryan (Indo-European) Religions?

Other Aryan Religions include

>Other European Paganism

>Hinduism

>Zoroastrianism

>Jainism

>Buddhism

>Sikhism

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Orlag, Wyrd, Hamingja, Magan

Been seeing this terms pop up more often in my readings and I cant seem to find any consensus between authors on what they mean.

Same equate Magan and Hamingja as the same thing (ancestral luck) others say Magan is the Germanic term for mana.

Orlag as I understand it is layers of fate or personal deeds one contributes to the wells around Yggdrasil.

Wyrd is the most contentious of the 4 as I understand it it is potential fate like the threads themselves in the quilt of fate.

These authors keep alluding to them being related to fate but on the hand they say Germanic peoples did not believe in fate or had no concept of a "Future".

What do guys think?

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Buddhism

Paganism/Heathenism are big umbrella terms that also encompass buddhism and its sects.

The greco-romans actually traded and dialogued with buddhists even hellenized the religion in some centuries.

So for those looking to reconstruct paganism by looking at runes or Odin myths don't worry, buddhism is still a pristine and complete pagan "path" to practice.

>As Buddhism expanded in Central Asia and fused with Hellenistic influences into Greco-Buddhism, the Greek hero Heracles was adopted to represent Vajrapāni. In that era, he was typically depicted as a hairy, muscular athlete, wielding a short "diamond" club. Buddhaghosa associated Vajrapāni with the deva king Indra.[13] Some authors considers that the deity which is depicted is actually Zeus, whose Classical attribute is the thunderbolt.[15]

pic related, heracles protecting buddha.

vid related, Evola on buddhism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbOgXfMcLoQ

Really buddha embodies the highest form of the pagan solar ideal, warrior ascetic mode.

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Discovery of huge Viking camp reveals secrets of Norse armies in medieval England

Archaeologists have uncovered an enormous Viking encampment in eastern England, a discovery that reveals much about the Norse armies that invaded Britain in the 9th century.

>The new study by the universities of York and Sheffield shows that the Torksey camp on the River Trent in Lincolnshire was larger than most contemporary towns. Home to thousands of Viking warriors and their families, a force much larger than previously believed, the Norsemen are thought to have wintered in the area before launching a larger invasion.

“The Vikings had previously often raided exposed coastal monasteries and returned to Scandinavia in winter, but in the later 9th century they came in larger numbers, and decided to stay,” Professor Julian Richards from the University of York said.

“This sent a very clear message that they now planned not only to loot and raid – but to control and conquer.”

Scientists had known of the Torksey camp for years, although its size and exact location has been a source of much debate.

Now, the study reveals that the camp lay within a naturally defended area of higher ground, partially surrounded by marshes and bordered on its western side by the River Trent.

Using metal detectors, the researchers found evidence of Vikings repairing their boats and melting down looted gold and silver to make metal bars to trade. More than 300 lead game pieces were also found, suggesting the Vikings passed a lot of their time playing games, waiting for spring and the start of their next offensive.

The discovery forms the basis of a new virtual reality exhibition at Yorkshire Museum illustrating what life was like in the camp in the winter of 872-873 AD.

Professor Dawn Hadley, who led the research, said: “The Vikings’ camp at Torksey was much more than just a handful of hardy warriors – this was a huge base, larger than most contemporary towns, complete with traders, families, feasting, and entertainment.”

The study says that the Torksey evidence allows for a radical reappraisal of the character of Viking winter camps, and the legacy of the Vikings in Anglo-Saxon England.

>.rt.com/viral/389118-viking-camp-discovered-england/

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Pagan Ireland and the Survival of the European Worldview

>altright.com/2017/05/15/pagan-ireland-and-the-survival-of-the-european-worldview/

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Yoga asatru approved?

So I have been thinking about taking up Yoga. Now I am not taking this up to be trendy. But after listening to several people talk about its benefits and thinking about it for some time I am considering taking it up.

I have had back issues for a year now and been doing stretches anyway for months for it. But I have always felt I am not getting a deep enough stretch.

Stephen McNallen even wrote a blurb about how he does Yoga and that swayed my opinion more in its favor.

Anyways what does everyone think?

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Religio or, The Child’s Guide to Knowledge

Thought you guys would appreciate this poem, which is also a small guide to Pounds' pagan thought.

https://www.counter-currents.com/2013/01/religio-or-the-childs-guide-to-knowledge/

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The Last Kingdom - Norsepilled TV series

>The story takes place during the Danish invasions of Britain, when all but one of the English kingdoms are conquered. The protagonist of the series is Uhtred of Bebbanburg, born to a Saxon lord in Northumbria, but captured and adopted by the Danes. The name of the protagonist comes from the historical Uhtred the Bold

So the first season of this apparently aired some time in late 2015, second one just started airing in the UK now. It's a BBC production but apparently has no niggers in it. Thoughts? Let's discuss this norsepilled show ITT

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Someone (probably learningchode lol) tried to fuck up /asatru/

Can someone explain what happened with the first five pages suddenly being filled entirely with threads more than a year old now with the last posts from early 2015 while i was absent? Did this faggot just try to wipe the entire catalog with his ghost-bumps overnight?

I reported his obsessive low effort bait shitposts multiple times the last couple days over btw, and since it looks like he won't learn his lesson and only intensify his efforts to ruin our greenpilled heathen sanctuary i think it's time to permaban him from /asatru/ for good

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Norse astronomy

Did the Norse know about Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto?

Those planets are considered "modern" discoveries, but it seems to me that the Norse probably knew of their existence, because the World Tree has nine worlds and our solar system has nine planets.

Just to take it a step further, I will attempt to match the nine worlds to the nine planets:

Mercury = Asgard. Mercury is the fastest of the planets, and traditionally associated with Odin.

Venus = Alfheim. Venus is the brightest planet from our perspective, and strongly associated with beauty, making it an ideal candidate for the realm of the Light Elves.

Earth = Midgard, duh

Mars = Muspell, because of its fiery color.

Jupiter = Jotunheim, because it's the largest of the planets.

Saturn = Vanaheim, because idk where else Vanaheim might fit

Uranus = Niflheim, because of its icy blue color.

Neptune = Svartalfheim, perhaps because its deep blue hue speaks of ancient wisdom and fabulous treasure.

Pluto = Helheim, because it's frigid and dark and the most "netherworldly" of the planets.

It's interesting how you can match the worlds almost 1:1 to the planets based on their physical appearance, and they end up in pretty much the same order (with Asgard being the highest and Helheim being the lowest, etc.). The only one that doesn't really seem to fit is Vanaheim.

The Norse cosmology says Midgard is surrounded by a wall separating it from the giants of Jotunheim; the solar system has an asteroid belt that separates Earth from the planets known as "giants." There's a lot of parallels here, but I hope I'm not just overthinking it?

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Mediterraneans

Where did this meme of "Greeks and Romans had a pessimistic worldview and regarded the gods as an obstacle to be overcome" originate? Is there any truth to it or was it propoganda to justify the carpenter cult?

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http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35344663

Daily reminder that if you're from an English speaking country, there is really no point in following Norse/Germanic paganism. you're more genetically Celtic than anything else.

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Why do you worship mere mortal men, who bleed, eat and breathe? Do you not know the eternal Ahura Mazda, who is not so weak to have let himself be swallowed whole by a common dog? The Prophet Zarathushtra knew Mazda, and he took it upon himself to shape and mold the faith of all the known world, so that they may not be cast with Angra Mainyu, the Dark Spirit, into the fire. Mazda spoke through Zarathushtra, and gifted man with the Avesta and other texts. Come home, Indo-Aryan men! The glory of the true God, Ahura Mazda, is endless, he shall kill the wicked soul, separate the good and the evil, and end the tyranny of "YaHoVaH"!

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ccs

Whats with the ccs? is it gone? the old asatru type we used to had last year

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looking for Sponsor

I am the father of a heathen in the Florida Dept. of corrections and I am writing this in an effort to find the Heathen community at Marion C.I. an advocate or sponsor. This role does not really entail anything more than being an outside contact to answer questions from the chaplincy and help solve issues regarding religious rights and needs.

The men there want to make it abundantly clear that they are not looking for money or any kind of hand-outs. ( SELF-RELIANCE!) They simply need someone on the outside to stick up for them when it comes to issues with the chaplin and administration at their institution.

Please direct any questions to:

AsatruVolk@protonmail.com

Wassail

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From the Branches of a Windswept Evergreen

Anyone else heard of this channel?

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"Total Awesome Viking Power" - Viking Larper Fights Ninjas with Odin in funny short film, feature-length movie already in the works

>Vikings & Pirates has released its first short film, Total Awesome Viking Power, on YouTube. Directed by Morten Forland, it’s about a Viking Larper who’s sentenced by his crew to the Land of the Dead for breaking the “cell phone code of conduct.” There, he comes across the Norse god Odin (who may or may not be the real deal), who teaches him the Ways of the Viking so he can fight, you guessed it, magical ninjas.

When Viking role player Vidar is sidelined to "the land of the dead" he seeks help of the god Odin, who agrees to teach Vidar the ways of the Vikings if he takes him to a mystical Runestone. Together they embark on a journey that will test Vidar’s wits, bravery and his ability to go completely berserk.

Starring Vince Major and Schno Mozingo, Total Awesome Viking Power has played all over the world in film festivals and is being developed into a feature film.

https://youtu.be/xSz_IOUkc6g

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Asatrupilling Myself

Will I be /asatru/pilled after listening to all of these?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZvGjorLWlI&list=PLG8klsjxFY-MqM0Vr9W-oKLZfnIJJYZ-S

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ASATRU WALLPAPER THREAD

Post your best Asatru wallpapers.

Please make sure they're high resolution.

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Significance of full moons?

As we know according to the Gregorian calendar all our high festivals fall on the Twenty first of every month. However, the full moon usually takes place around the Twenty fourth. Is there some connection that has been thrown off by our modern calendars or is the full moon just important to wiccan garbage.

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doing a blot on ones own

hi, i want to do a blot to honour the gods, so i googled doing blots but everything i found was about doing blots in groups. now, most of my friends are not really interested in joining asatru, and most groups where i live are universalist wiccan shits, so how can i do a blot on my own? i've got some stuff to sacrifice (beer, mead, meat ect) but i don't know what to do with it.

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Winterchan

Thought you guys might want to hear this.

/pol/ is trying to create ebolachan 2.0 by calling on the old gods for a magnificent winter which will wipe out the shitskins.

What do you think?

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Halloween

Eurocentrism and Halloween
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BJocwDLdW0
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Happy Lief Erikson day!

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An interesting perspective on the original purpose of Yule:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=riM_7uq-WaI
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Hail Germania!

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Happy Samhain!

How will you be observing this time of the year fellow heathens?

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Runic Sex Postures of the Anglo-Saxon Futhorc

THIS exciting new volume examines the thirty-three runes of the Anglo-Saxon Futhorc and seeks to incorporate them within a new and original system of sexual magick. Designed to encourage methods of strict discipline and self-control, the purpose of Troy Southgate's unique commentary is to use the symbolism and magickal correspondences of each rune to create a ritualistic and meditative environment for the facilitation of magickal activity. Whilst most sexual behaviour inevitably appeals to the senses and the emotions, the runic sex postures of the Anglo-Saxon Futhorc are designed, ultimately, to completely transcend both mind and body. Lavishly illustrated by the talented Polish artist, Zbigniew Bogusławski, who spent months working on each of the designs, the methodology and practicalities of this radical new system have finally been brought to life. With detailed information about each posture, its meaning and application, this work will appeal to occultists, magicians and heathens alike and represents a valuable contribution to the field of Indo-European spirituality.

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Masculine Homosexuality

What do you anons think of traditional homosexuality, as practiced by the Germanic tribes and other Aryan pagans? Obviously I don't mean the submissive faggotry that is common nowadays, but the kind where real men express their dominance on the weak and unmanly. In my experience I've never passed up a chance to dominate these sissies into submission. If they like it then I make them bleed from their asses, and in some instances I've kicked their teeth in. I like to remind them how they would be thrown into bogs if they lived in a pagan world. Know what I'm saying?

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Redpill me on the Planets /asatru/.

Are they the realms of the Gods? Or are they the gods themselves?

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WAS THERE A RACE WAR AGAINST THE JOTUNS?

So /ASATRU/ recently I have gotten into The Rune Poems and Eddas as well as Beowulf. It's important to realize that even though Beowulf was recorded by Anglo Saxons, the saga took place in Scandinavia. If you put what's in Beowulf together with what is in the Eddas it becomes clear what the giants(Jotun) mentioned in the eddas are.

The giants/jotun were another race of white europeans that were mostly exterminated by the aesir, The jotun sometimes interbred with the other whites but the Jotun were closer to savage. They were the less civilized version. The giants were also berserkers. The viking berserkers were either part jotun or they were imitating the culture of the giants/jotun.

Its very important for every nordic person to read or listen to beowulf and study the eddas. A neglected aspect of northern european culture is the Irish mythology. The most important one to read is the cattle raid of cooley, sometimes called the tain. The main character Cu Chulainn is a Irish berserker warrior. The gods of the Irish: the dagda(an ancient king), lugh, the fianna… in some ways resemble the giants and I wonder if there was an exodus of those among the jotun races to Ireland where they became remembered as gods among the Irish.

In the one of the rune poems the jotnar are described as cliff dwellers, this can mean they were seen as "cave men". Another possibility is that the jotnar were the neanderthals who were exterminated.

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Leftypol Trying To Rebrand Nordic Culture As Leftist

https://8ch.net/leftypol/res/1503959.html

Asatru (actually a falseflagging /fringe/r on there is trying to co-opt Nordic culture to spread leftism.

Don't let them get away with it!

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Short video on the Datuk Gong, land spirits venerated by Chinese people who live in Malaysia.

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Esoteric aspects of the Heathen Mythologies

Wanted to see if we could get a thread started that discusses the more Esoteric aspects of the Exoteric Myths.

There have been hints of such concepts in threads here and there, but not really a concentrated thread.

The closest that I've seen of a thread manifesting this concept is Varg Vikernes' videos, but for whatever reason he doesn't give his sources in said videos.

One esoteric theory I've kicked around (and I imagine others have as well) is that Odin's quest for the Runes is at least partially a metaphor for the power of writing and literacy, in addition to magic.

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fighting arts

What martial arts are appropriate for a hh'white man? Seems like the majority are japanese/asian variations.

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Trees are sacred in Germanic paganism. My question is, what makes a tree sacred? Is it an individual feeling one gets when they are around the tree or pray to it? Or is there a general consensus, or a set of guidelines, when determining whether a tree could be sacred. If it is an individualist concept, then how would one go about finding a sacred tree?

>Also: fuck Boniface

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Holy fuck

It seems we are back online again fams

Praise the Alfather!

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How many of you are even from Northern Europe? No offence, but every time I've looked at anything even tangentially related to this stuff it's been full of BRs, Arabs and mystery meat burgers with something to prove.

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meta

Stop spamming /pol/ with links to your board. Stop spamming /pol/ with links to your board. Stop spamming /pol/ with links to your board.

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Does anyone else find it interesting how the only pro-white party in Greece is basically a gene-expression of actual descendants of Spartans? The party's leadership seems to be dominated by Maniots (pure Ancient Greek Dorians who survived the waves of rape inflicted by Slavs and Turks in tact)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maniots

Maniots interestingly enough were the last Greeks to be practicing indigenous Hellenic paganism, and Golden Dawn is Hellenic in its founding (they mouth the pieties demanded from them by the Orthodox church just like the NSDAP appealed to the status quo Christianity in Germany) and they do cool Hellenic pagan festivals and outings with their young membership.

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Beginner books

I know you probably get these threads all the time but can somebody recommend books on asatru behaviour, rituals, beliefs on things like death, the spirit, etc. I've already read the poetic Edda and the prose Edda, starting on Tacitus' Germania and also looking into Celtic religion, the druids, etc. Are the pictured books good?

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how does Asatru, the religion, describe the ultimate Reality, the highest metaphysical truth and the path to liberation/salvation for man, the purpose of life, the origin of evil/suffering? I don't mean your opinion on the matter, but the actual authoritative, religious position of Asatru.

If you can compare it to a big-world religion which would it be?

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"In Scandinavia thunderstones were frequently worshiped as family gods who kept off spells and witchcraft. Beer was poured over them as an offering and they were sometimes anointed with butter."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderstone_(folklore)

Do you keep and honour a housegod, the cutest of deities?

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Is this book worth reading?

How accurate are the stories to the source material, and is it entertaining/well written?

All I know about Gaiman is that the faggots at NPR have some weird fetish for him.

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Stephen Mcnallen on Race

He hits all the bases, Race is real, Races have measurable differences, white genocide. He actually uses the 14 words.

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Is there a combined symbol of hanging wotan and mjolnir?

Both images are the same shape, but i have never hanging wotan superimposed over the hammer.

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religion as a method of staving of the effects of PTSD.

I've noticed that the warrior peoples of northern europe tend to have a love of combat and violence that is unnusual among other cultures. the constant raids over the centuries dont necessarily adhere to a strict code of honour, honour being (among many other things) a method of internalising and emotionally digesting violence.their own idea of a supernatural ideal valhalla consists in theme mostly of combat.

is it the case that their spiritual beliefs allow for the detrimental psychological effects of war to be lessened? are there any other cultures, pagan or not, that do a similar thing? would the warrior cultures of shinto-buddhist japan be similar? or is it just insecure "if you dont want to fight then you are a bitch" that everyone stuck to?

discussion

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Daily Prayer/Invocation/Adorations

A bit of background: I come from a ceremonial magick background and I've found the daily ritual hard to give up as I've evolved in my approach to Asatru.

A common element of ceremonial magick (specifically Thelema) is the 4 daily adorations of the sun found in Liber Resh. I really found these adorations to be powerful tools for connecting to certain energies. Below is my attempt to create a Norse version of these mini rituals.

Please feel free to critique, offer suggestions, and post your own daily routine.

- Morning (face the sun rising in the East & stand in Algiz stadha)

o “Hail Sunna, who art like Baldr in thine rising! Your brightness bursting forth to signal the end of Ragnarok!

o Heimdall stands ready with his horn before Asgard and the Allfather abides upon his thone.”

- Noon (face South and stand in Algiz stadha):

o “Hail Sunna, who art like Thor charging forth, triumphant! Blazing across the sky in thine chariot, Oh Swastika burning bright!

o Heimdall stands ready with his horn before Asgard and the Allfather abides upon his thone.”

- Sunset (face West and stand in Algiz stadha):

o “Hail Sunna, who art like Tyr in thine setting – a sacrifice for the good of all! The light-devourer was held at bay for a time.

o Heimdall stands ready with his horn before Asgard and the Allfather abides upon his thone.”

- Midnight: (face North stand in Algiz stadha)

o “Hail Sunna, hidden below you are like Hermóðr on his journey to rescue Baldr from Hel’s world! Ragnarok will come, but its end is not far behind.

o Heimdall stands ready with his horn before Asgard and the Allfather abides upon his thone.”

- Finish each adoration with the hymn from Sigrdrifumal:

>Hail Day (Dagaz)!

>Hail the sons of Day!

>Hail Night & her daughters now!

>Look upon us with loving eyes that waiting we Victory win!

>Hail the Gods and the Goddesses - Hail!

>And all the gentle Earth.

>Grant us [wisdom and goodly speech and healing hands life long!]*

*I feel like you can ad lib here

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Archive

I am amassing a archival directory of media; text, video, audio that inspirits & honours the following virtues:

Familial association with ones kindred.

Stewardship & preservation of ones kindred heritage's.

Attentive, thourough, calculative, liberal, Cogitation.

Conduction adhering with self nourishment, fortitude, discipline, diligence, sincerity, loyalty, courage, ardor, Austerity, beauty.

Husbandry of one's homelands, as well as the world at large; preservation of those many realms we've dwelled in, our neighbors

Plant & animal, who are a sacred treasure of our world.

Honouring and inspiritment of one's native gods.

If you concur with the value of the above stated criteria please contribute any works you consider present it.

Once I have created this archival directory I will publish it online and notify /asatru/.

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The Golden One. Name a more glorious person then him

>pagan

>nationalist

>anti-degeneracy

>lifts

>plays heathen games

>blonde-hair

>listens to metal

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Surpassing Disgraceful Kin/Ancestors?

Is it possible to be volk/an ideal Asatru with a disgraceful family and one known ancestor that brought shame to the family name? Long story short everyone, but my mom, cousin, and his wife aren't flawed in some way or another. Yet, my cousin's wife reads erotica/romance novels.

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GREAT HEATHEN WAR IMMINENT

The chrisitan weakling of Germany have just put this Priest of the celtic-faith in custody for demanding to fight back against the muslims and the kikes!

On the russian version of facebook called 'vk' he demanded that we should fight against the invaders by putting pigheads in mosques and synagogues.

His name is Burgos of Burchonia and here is a video about him.

He once also took part in a demonstration of Heathens against their religions not being recognised by Germany.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slYWPM7J5rk

I might be Asatru and can't really relate to you of celtic faith but this is still a great insult towards all of us! Also he seemed like a really nice guy.

MAY THE WRAITH OF THE OLD GODS SOON BE UNLEASHED UPON THEM!

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Is Aztec allowed?

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What should modern pagan temples look like?

As in, if paganism was revived on a very large scale and got popular fast, what would the places of worship look like? Would they take cues from ancient greco-roman? Or just convert cathedrals and churches into temples?

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Book Of Asatru

GET OFF YOUR LAZY ARSES HEATHENS CAUSE IVE GOT A PROJECT FOR YOU

In related thread >5040 we decided that, to truly establish our faith in a way that it can compete with the Semitic ones, we should compose a book made up from all of the most spiritually important parts of Germanic history. It should weave together history, worldview, myth and conduct into one book. What we are proposing is not a mere intro guide to Asatru but a massive tome, taking up every little piece of lore we can find.

We are not proposing that this become our sacred text to be forced into every temple nor do we claim it to be a Heathen Bible. It will simply be the recorded myths and history of the Germanic tribes, something that can easily be made into a standardized book that can be widely distributed. We have also proposed that art be included in the pages, if any drawfags would be willing to help

Texts that are proposed to be added

Heimskringla

Prose Edda (needs editing)

Poetic Edda

Song of the Sun (needs editing)

Jomviking Saga

Parts of the Nibelungenleid

Select quotes from Tactitus Germania

Niflung Saga

Select stories from the Brothers Grimm, can be edited to have more Heathen tone

Collection of folk songs and war chants

The Berg Dwellers Song

The Dream of the Rood (should be edited to have heathen imagery)

Pow-Wow medicine [not Indjun pow-wow, I mean the stuff used by amish] (needs to be edited for heathen use)

The Rune Poems (Anglo saxon, Icelandic and Nordic)

Pages to illustrate the runes and explain some of their deeper meanings

Collections of prayers, songs and chants

Rules regarding shrines

Volsung Saga

Beowulf

Song of Roland

History of the Goths (and as many other tribes as we can include, of course it will have to be edited down)

If anyone can think of more books or sources to use, please post suggestions. Debate about what books should be included. Edit the more Christian ones without detracting from their original tone.

This is a big project I'm proposing but something I think could really do a lot of good for the Asatru community in terms of spreading the old ways and educating the faithful

Any other suggestions on what to do will be appreciated

>tl;dr dump your lore here, anything you find no matter how obscure

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Self criticism and reflection

http://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/79792.htm

Its selfreflection time!

Former Pagan now orthodox christian, who commited a lot to Rodnovery speaks with a priest about what desillusioned him.

Where is he right?

Where is he wrong?

What are you faulty with what he critisizes?

What are heathens you have heard of faulty of what he critisizes?

Are our efforts fueled by vanity and lack of aim among the other things they list as they say?

Any thoughts or lessons to be learned from this?

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Boudica’s Uprising Against the Romans - The Battle of Watling Street

http://renegadetribune.com/boudicas-uprising-romans-part-2-3-battle-watling-street/

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Mead

So I am an avid fan of mead and drinking mead. To the point where I am currently brewing two one gallon batches of my own mead.

Anyone else like mead or are brewing mead? If so what brand do you drink or what recipe are you brewing?

Do you use mead for blots? Or drink it on holidays?
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What is Operation Golden Age?

Hello, people of /asatru/. I'm the board owner of /x/ and this is a formal invitation to join Operation Golden Age.

The problem

You're probably aware that 8chan's community is small and highly fragmented. This is a terrible combination. Small forums work best when they have a small number of sections. Big sites can afford to have many subforums. While we enjoy the freedom to create and customise our own boards, the current model of infinite boards plus a stagnant community has resulted in a situation where the vast majority of boards are not as active as they could be. This is a pity, because imageboards are a great and versatile medium, and out of all imageboards, 8chan has the most potential.

Unfortunately our growth model so far has relied on various waves of exodus from other communities, mainly from 4chan. By its very nature, this model doesn't guarantee constant growth, and actually makes growth almost undesirable, because when it happens it's so big and sudden that the influx of new users can be difficult to manage. What we want is slow and steady growth.

The solution

We need to start spreading the word about 8chan. The keyword here is "we". The administrators won't do it because they don't make any money from this site, so it's not in their best interest to advertise it. The big boards won't do it either because they already enjoy a good number of PPH (posts per hour) and they're scared that any new visitor might ruin their 'culture'. From their point of view, there's nothing wrong with the current state of things. Most boards on the other hand would greatly benefit from a bigger community, but we have to make it happen. We have to realise that if we don't do something about it, nothing will change.

Now, due to the fact that most small boards represent niche interests, broad advertisements won't be particularly effective. Instead of advertising for 8chan as a site, we want to target people who are already interested in our niche. We can do this for free by mentioning our boards in places where our target audience gather. It can be Youtube videos, forums, blogs, etc. The more exposure, the better. We can create original content that contains a link to our board and share it on as many sites as we want.

Do we really want to recruit from outside of imageboards?

Yes! Remember that we were all newfags at some point. I discovered /v/ and /b/ through a Pokemon forum around 2008. Where did you come from? Everyone has his own story, but the point is that there's no reason to be afraid of newfags. We just need to make sure that they understand how things work around here. I'm currently working on a 8chan guide for newfags. Once it's done, board owners can add it to their boards as a page. I'll post my finished version and you'll be free to modify it however you see fit.

I encourage every small board to participate and contribute to this operation however they can. Cooperation will be key to our success. If you wish to discuss strategy and methods, please it do here >>>/x/28856 so that this information is shared with everyone.

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What is the difference between Asatru and Odalism?

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More faggotry

http://norskk.com/talk/2015/7/21/homosexuality-in-asatru

When will this fucking end? I do not even want to begin to address what the fuck is wrong with this "article". Also I am blocked from posting on the page that linked it

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/pol/ IS BEING RAIDED BY >>>/christian/ WITH THE INTENT TO "CONVERT US TO CHRISTIANITY"

>"We need to convert /pol/ to christianity."

https://archive.is/F5piE

1. They are coming from >>>/christian/ with the intent to convert /pol/. Several threads have been made with this intent in mind and iirc logs as well.

2. They use a small number of easily refuted talking points (A. Jesus is not a Jew, B. Christianity is racist/nationalist!, C. pagans are degenerate/leftist, D. christianity is european culture, E. Kekism/Meme Magic isnt real/satanism)

3. They have a very small number of material and memes at their disposal and the vast majority of academeia and history proves them wrong at every point.

4. They make hit-and-run shilling attacks trying to weaken the boards resolve and slowly chip away at our beliefs trying to shift our core ideas. When they lose/are exposed, they run and have a mod delete the thread.

5. A moderator/janitor is on their side on both 4cuck and 8pol, deleting anti-Christian threads

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Dreams and Visions

So I have had personally a few visions and dreams. My friend actually had a dream of me with a white beard saying "I have become Odin". Another time after receiving bad news about a person close to me health I saw a man in the clouds with long hair and long beard (which I took to be Odin). I have dreamt and seen other things. Sometimes my dreams have foretelled the future as well. Does anyone else believe in Precognition or believe in visions?

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ITT: book thread

Post books and great recommendations, I'll start with the obvious

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Blots and Ritual General

Share your experiences here.

I went into the mountains on the 29th (The first night of Winter Nights). Was a cool camping trip went fishing for awhile and got to bbq some hamburgers and hot dogs. Bought some Pecan Beer and pour one into my horn around 9ish. Performed a blot to Thor (From my understanding he is a patron god to farmers so would figure he is important for Harvest). I said some words to Thor took a sip from the horn then pour the rest onto the roots of the biggest Aspen Fir near my campsite. Got the sense of Euphoria (which I get every time I perform a blot). During that night I heard a wolf's howl echoing through the mountains it went on for a few hours. The temperature was supposed to only get to 38 degrees but dropped to like 15 over night. Next morning saw a few Ravens and all throughout my day I saw Ravens even when I got into town I kept seeing Ravens (all through my journey home). Did not what to make of this.

(Pic is of the lake next to my campsite).

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The Myth

"This movie is based on an abridgment of Der Mythus des zwanzigsten Jahrhunderts and is released for historical and educational purposes. One of the most important and neglected works of political philosophy from the first half of the twentieth century, The Myth has been made accessible to the scholar and lay person alike as never before. Released under Creative Commons License by The Sunwheel Society in 2016, this film will boldly challenge your understanding of religion, life, politics, and philosophy, requiring you to critically assess its ideas as well as your own.

Created directly from a historical document, The Myth is released with the intention of free philosophical inquiry and an accurate understanding of a deeply influential philosophy that has long been misunderstood, even by those who admire the political system it created. Welcome to a new, deeper understanding of history. Welcome to The Myth!"

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Interview with HOH High Priest of Iceland's new pagan temple

"Hilmar Örn Hilmarsson: Icelandic Ásatrú has nothing to do with those paths that engage with politics or the doctrines of racial preservation. In fact, I get more hate mail from American so-called Ásatrúers than anyone other religious groups. I think that’s telling. If you think about it, we had no conception of nationhood back in the 9th century, when our values began taking shape. If you read Hávamál, it’s about how to meet other cultures and be a good guest or host to the world around you. These are ancient sayings for the traveller – not for the guy sitting at home on his ass thinking his living room is the centre of the world."

How does this quote make you feel?

http://news360.com/article/286403554
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Asatru NYE thread

Happy new year my fellow heathen friends. May 2017 bring hail and victory aswell as many green pills for our spiritual movement

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"Christian theology is the grandmother of Bolshevism."

—Oswald Spengler

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How would our heathen ancestors tackle the racemixing question?

I know our greek ancestors didn't have a problem with it, since they were very cosmopolitan (Mark Antony + Cleopatra). I'm not sure if the Nordics/Germanics saw it as taboo or not. Or if it was simply a thing they avoided because of geography/travel problems. Any info?

Personally I have greek ancestors on my mother's side, so I'm not sure if it's "kosher" for me or not.

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Thoughts on non-germanic paganism/gods?

Specifically the graeco-roman or egyptian

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Can we reclaim the Paganism that was stolen by the Christians?

Can we reclaim the Paganism that was stolen by the Christians? Temples, robes, chants, symbols, certain holiday and their traditions are all rooted in Paganism which the early Christians took and adopted into their religion.

In his 1878 Essay on the Development of the Christian Doctrine, Cardinal John H. Newman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Henry_Newman) wrote:

"In the course of the fourth century two movements or developments spread over the face of Christendom, with a rapidity characteristic of the Church; the one ascetic, the other ritual or ceremonial. We are told in various ways by Eusebius [Note 16], that Constantine, in order to recommend the new religion to the heathen, transferred into it the outward ornaments to which they had been accustomed in their own. It is not necessary to go into a subject which the diligence of Protestant writers has made familiar to most of us. The use of temples, and these dedicated to particular saints, and ornamented on occasions with branches of trees; incense, lamps, and candles; votive offerings on recovery from illness; holy water; asylums; holydays and seasons, use of calendars, processions, blessings on the fields; sacerdotal vestments, the tonsure, the ring in marriage, turning to the East, images at a later date, perhaps the ecclesiastical chant, and the Kyrie Eleison [Note 17], are all of pagan origin, and sanctified by their adoption into the Church.." http://www.newmanreader.org/works/development/chapter8.html

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It's the winter solstice today. Yule is the following 13 days. What do you have planned for Yule?

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AFA Enlisting Gothis

http://asatrufolkassembly.org/about-the-afa/afa-clergy-program/

What do you guys think? I am halfway tempted to apply.

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What is the place of religion in the modern world? How can European polytheism be meaningful beyond an academic/ historical sense to the average European man in our environment? How can we create a spiritual experience that will motivate participation and action in the modern man?

Do you think its possible to seriously revive paganism on mass scale? Should this even be a goal?

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NRR-Northern Runes Radio

Northern Runes Radio
http://northernrunesradio.com/

The Runic Series
1st Aett
1. ᚠ Fehu: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/runic-series-fehu-feoh-fe-fa/ )
2. ᚢ Uruz: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/the-runic-series-uruz-ur/ )
3. ᚦ Thurisaz: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/the-runic-series-thurisaz-thorn-thurs/ )
4. ᚨ Ansuz: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/the-fourth-rune-ansuz-os-ase/ )
5. ᚱ Raidho: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/raidho-rad-reidh-rit-1404830762/ )
6. ᚲ Kenaz: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/kenaz-cen-kaun-ka/ )
7. ᚷ Gebo: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/gebo-gyfu/ )
8. ᚹ Wunjo: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/wunjo-wynn/ )

2nd Aett
9. ᚺ Hagalaz: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/hagalaz-haegl-hagal/ )
10. ᚾ Nauthiz: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/nauthiz-nyd-nauth-not/ )
11. ᛁ Isa: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/isa-is/ )
12. ᛃ Jera: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/jera-ger-ar/ )
13. ᛇ Eiwhaz: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/eiwhaz-eoh/ )
14. ᛈ Perthro: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/perthro-peorth/ )
15. ᛉ Algiz: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/algiz-elhaz-eolh/ )
16. ᛊ Sowilo: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/sowilo-sigel-sol-sig/ )

3rd Aett
17. ᛏ Tiwaz: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/tiwaz-tiw-tyr-1414473130/ )
18. ᛒ Berkano: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/berkano-beorc-bjarkan-bar/ )
19. ᛖ Ehwhaz: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/ehwhaz-eh/ )
20. ᛗ Mannaz: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/mannaz-man-madhr/ )
21. ᛚ Laguz: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/laguz-lagu-loghr-laf/ )
22. ᛜ Ingwaz: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/ingwaz-ing/ )
23. ᛞ Dagaz: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/dagaz-daeg/ )
24. ᛟ Othala: ( http://nrr.podbean.com/e/othala-othel/ )

Seidhr
October 7th, 2014
http://nrr.podbean.com/e/seidhr/

I know that I said in the last broadcast that we would begin talking in this week's episode on the Rune Sowilo, but with the time of year being what it is and the content of the previous week's broadcast being so pivotal in connection with the higher self I thought that we should put right something that was an oversight for those of you who subscribe to our RSS and iTunes feed. Winter Nights is coming, the time where we honor Freyja and the Disir (our female ancestors). What better time than to release as it should have been our episode on Seidhr! This esoteric art was practiced by our ancestors and sometimes included runes and sometimes did not. The particular form of Seidhr called "Oracular Seidhr" was particularly practiced by women but the entire art form that this style of magic represents was by no means restricted just to this. Listen to this broadcast and realize that this is one of our older vintage broadcast from almost 4 years ago! It has a hard-hitting message and is something that is of great value in any person's spiritual development if they are following the esoteric path.

For those that are following primarily the religious side of things this still holds great value it leaves Nuggets of wisdom that show the type of consciousness one has in reverie when giving blot to the gods and goddesses or to the ancestors and wights.

Hail to the gods and goddesses! Hail to our female ancestors! A fair and fine Winter Nights to all!

Until Next Time….

Download: http://nrr.podbean.com/mf/web/7p8cm6/NRRSeidhr.mp3
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Have we reached the eddaic age of the wolf yet? Is Ragnarök drawing close?

>Brothers shall fight | and fell each other,

>And sisters' sons | shall kinship stain;

>Hard is it on earth, | with mighty whoredom;

>Axe-time, sword-time, | shields are sundered,

>Wind-time, wolf-time, | ere the world falls;

>Nor ever shall men | each other spare.

Let us discuss ITT

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Asatru as a Living Tradition

A thoughtful post by Collin Cleary over at Counter-Currents:

http://www.counter-currents.com/2015/10/asatru-as-a-living-tradition/

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ITT Pagan European Traditions

Post all things related to the traditions that were invented by the Pre-Christian Europeans.

>hair covering with a scarf

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Two things:

1. What are your opinions toward wolf hunting?

2. This may seem like a weird question but have Jews played any roles in wolf extirpation? For example, Britain and especially Ireland had many wolves but their extermination on those islands went full speed after Cromwell took power, and we all know what Cromwell was about.

Similarly with Charlemagne (the rat credited with helping to spawn the Ashkenazim), under his rule he organised large wolf hunting parties whereas such a thing seems to not have been present among the Germanic tribes before.

Of course, wolves would get in the way by harming farmers' livestock and as Europe's population grew wolves became more of a drain, but still.

James Laffrey has laid his argument for Jews being behind the near total decimation of bison in North America. Could there be something similar to what I've suggested?

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Freyja, Frigg, the Aesir, and the Vanir

Are Freyja and Frigg the same? It would make a lot of sense, they have very similar characteristics and their husbands are essentially the same deity. Odr and Odinn are almost certainly the same. Their names are in fact the same word, the only difference is Odinn is definite accusative while Odr is indefinite nominative.

If they are the same, what would that mean for the Vanir? I've heard theories that the Vanir weren't actually considered a separate group until right before the conversion to Christianity.

What are your thoughts on this?

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Why did Germanics dress like animals?

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Pagans in recent history.

Hey guys, I was wondering if there were any famous pagans from somewhat recent history, like 1200-1800. What did they do, what type of pagan were they? I am mostly wondering if pagans were still active when Europe was almost entirely Christian. Thanks!

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Black Moon

>Rare "Black Moon" to rise on the night of 30 Sept

>The term Black Moon has several definitions, but one of the most common definitions is the second new moon in a calendar month. This is similar to the well-known Blue Moon, which is the name given to the second full moon in a calendar month.

>Since it is a new moon, it will not be a visible event as the side of the moon that is illuminated will be facing away from the Earth.

>The last time that two new moons fell in the same month was March of 2014

>While some areas of the world, such as the United States, experience a Black Moon in September, it will not be the case for the entire world

>This is because the new moon occurs at 8:11 p.m. EDT on Sept. 30, so for areas in the Eastern Hemisphere, the new moon will officially occur after the calendar flips to October

Does this have any meaning for us? If so discuss here

Newfag here I'll delete the thread if this isn't a relevant event for Asatrur

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>Armanenschaft: The Priesthood of Teutonic Wotanism

http://renegadetribune.com/armanenschaft-the-priesthood-of-teutonic-wotanism/

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a source about scandinavian people

Hello /asatru/, I was making research about my ancestors(Türks) beliefs and traditions, I've found a source about both our and your people. I've found this book neutral enough, and I wanted to share it since you guys intrested in with this kind of stuff.

Also by saying 'rus' in that script, most likely he refers kievan rus who are scandinavian.

https://www.library.cornell.edu/colldev/mideast/montgo1.pdf

http://www.sammustafa.com/Resources/Fadlan.pdf

He thought scandinavians were dirty but very handsome, if I'm not wrong it's mentioned in one of these sources.

Sorry for if it's posted before and bad english

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ITT we invent pro-white greenpilled pagan mantras

I'll start

>They say they are tolerant and universalist. What they really are is anti-Aesir.

>The judeo-christian holy trinity is codeword for anti-Aesir.

>If we defend our native european norse ethnic germanic faith we are being called apostateswhowillburninhellfor6trillionyears. The christians do this to NORSE countries and NORSE countries only. Say NO to forced conversions and christian brainwashing.

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/christian/ talking shit

>>>/christian/167124

Sounds like Lindisfarne 2.0 is needed.

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Totems, Totemism, Totem animals

It should be a well known fact by now that our ancestors practiced totemism, our holiest animals in the Germanic regions being the bear, the wolf, and the eagle.

Do you guys ever feel like you might have a totem animal? I mean not in an otherkin or fursona sense, in fact, I consider all that furry culture shit to be a bastardization of totemic traditions, likely spearheaded by the merchants. I have felt a connection with bears recently, especially now after watching through Marie Cachet's Bear Cult videos. Unfortunately bear pelts are pricy and hard to come by. I would love to go hunting for them, but I don't have a permit.

I guess what I'm trying to ask is, where can I find a good source on totems that isn't complete Wiccatru hippie new age horse shit?

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Ashley Madison

Rejoice fellow heathens, for many whores and adulterers of Ashley Madison have been outed by righteous hackers.

So I think we should take some time to look at our ancestors' punishments for adulterers.

>By such means is the virtue of their women protected, and they live uncorrupted by the temptations of public shows or the excitements of banquets. Clandestine loveletters are unknown to men and women alike. Adultery is extremely rare, considering the size of the population. A guilty wife is summarily punished by her husband. He cuts off her hair, strips her naked, and in the presence of kinsmen turns her out of his house and flogs her all through the village. They have in tact no mercy on a wife who prostitutes her chastity. Neither beauty, youth, nor wealth can find her another husband. No one in Germany finds vice amusing, or calls it 'up-to-date' to seduce and be seduced. Even better is the practice of those states in which only virgins may marry, so that a woman who has once been a bride has finished with all such hopes and aspirations. She takes one husband, just as she has one body and one life. Her thoughts must not stray beyond him or her desires survive him. And even that husband she must love not for himself, but as an embodiment of the married state. To restrict the number of children, or to kill any of those born after the heir, is considered wicked. Good morality is more effective in Germany than good laws are elsewhere.

So that leads me to my next question.

What do we do if/when we find some of our own on the Ashley Madison list? High ranking members of the AFA, AA, Irminsfolk, Odinic Rite, etc. I can only hope the Asatru community responds in a proper manner. Does anyone know the emails any important figures in these organizations use?

However, let's say we don't find any heathens on the list, can we use this as a means to prove Asatru's good moral grounds?

Like I said in >>7210, Dylan Sprouse is a decent role model to children, and can act as a good gateway to the religion. Already people have found many Vatican members on the list, not to mention Josh Duggar who is head of an organization for Christian Family Values, clearly this man practiced what he preached on a daily basis(not). Disillusioned white folk may start to lose faith in Christianity and search for alternatives, is this a good opportunity to add to our ranks?

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The Asatru Community

http://www.renegadetribune.com/the-asatru-community/

Leave it up to Jews to infiltrate and ruin everything – if you stumbled upon this community – you better leave it immediately. If you gave them money – well, you probably won’t see it coming back from the happy merchant. They really try to lead every opposition, don’t they? They have their nasty characters inside of everything – and they wait and wait until they are ready to show their true characteristics. Sometimes they pretend to tell the Truth up to a high degree, only to continuously – although maliciously – keep on pondering a certain lie or certain element which makes all the followers of said controlled group (read : opposition) look like retarded idiots.

And they never stop with it. They will mention it whenever possible. They will start a topic and randomly within their discussion just pop up the subject – it may seem harmless to their foolish followers – but the real damage has been done : over and over again. Others, like this Asatru Community, establish a typical Jewish narrative and pattern – they copy paste their Universalist Goyim social justice rules and laws and override everything within a certain group. They did it with secret societies, they did it with religions, law systems of other races and people which they have genocided – and now – they have done it with this particular Asatru group.

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>The Roman Imperial cult drew its power and effect from both religious traditions deeply engrained in Roman culture, such as the veneration of the genius of each individual and of the ancestral dead, and on forms of the Hellenistic ruler cult developed in the eastern provinces of the Empire.

>The Imperial cult was inseparable from that of Rome's official deities, whose cult was essential to Rome's survival and whose neglect was therefore treasonous.

>Christian apologists and martyrologists saw the cult of the Emperor as a particularly offensive instrument of "pagan" impiety and persecution.[1] It therefore became a focus of theological and political debate during the ascendancy of Christianity under Constantine I. The emperor Julian failed to reverse the declining support for Rome's official religious practices: Theodosius I adopted Christianity as Rome's state religion. Rome's traditional gods and Imperial cult were officially abandoned.

If degenerate judeo-christfags from the desert wouldn't have suceeded in killing off the pagan european roman spiritual cult and its folk practices resulting in the subsequent degeneracy and fall of the roman empire, how would european history have progressed? Would germanics and romans have lived side by side and conquered the lesser, that is to say non-european races over time?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_cult_%28ancient_Rome%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mos_maiorum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_saint

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Where do I find a good, preferrably leather bound, hard copy set of the prose and poetic eddas? My preference is for the RB Anderson translation, but I will look at other translations (not Hollander, though)

Have any of you bought nice copies of the eddas? It's hard enough to even find a damn paperback on the internet, so much so that I'm tempted to just order a paperback and have it custom rebound.

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Volkisch Communities in Germany

God i wish i could live there, like my ancestors which were German farmers. Also watch how they act like white people living healthily is a bad thing and the Pol/ack comments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6n4t5i9_G0

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Greenpilled Ásatrú Scouting and Guiding

I didn't even know these scouting units existed. Attendance to such units should be mandatory for all younger citizens of a modern heathen society in my opinion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81satr%C3%BA_Scouting_and_Guiding
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So I've been going over the Rigveda for a while now, and I'm curious about the caste system.

Was this subject to change at all? Or was it set from birth? As in, could someone from the warrior or worker castes ascend to nobility through hard work? Seems rather obvious that a worker or farmer could easily pick up arms and join the military though.

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The inevitable resurgence of European Paganism

Is anyone else looking at this invasion of Europe that's happening right now and coming to the conclusion that the widespread resurgence of some form of European Paganism is all but inevitable at this point?

The flood of Muslims is seemingly endless, their murdering and raping is beginning to spread outside of the shelters as they seem to be tired of raping their own women and now attacks on Europeans are becoming increasingly common, white Europeans are finally starting to wake up in large numbers and every day more and more people are becoming enraged over this insanity, and we have gone well past the point that this could be ended peacefully and massive amounts of violence is now unavoidable.

As for how this relates to religion and spirituality though, it just seems to me that some form of European Paganism is the only likely result of all of this. Humans need spirituality and without it we descend into the same abyss of nihilism and apathetic hedonism that large parts of Europe have already been in for several decades now, so Europe will need some kind of spirituality that the people can rally around as the violence begins and chaos erupts throughout Europe. I don't see any trend towards a Christian revival that would make me think that Christianity will be the choice of Europeans outside of maybe Southern and Eastern Europe. Christianity is just rotting right now, and even Christians will admit this if they're honest. Christianity is on life support in the rest of Europe and when it is practiced then it's practiced in such a watered down and meaningless way, so it seems impossible to me that most of Europe will rally around Christianity as a spiritual source of strength in the coming conflict.

If we look at the present trend amongst Western European nationalists though then it can be argued that a kind of primal and subconscious form of European Paganism is already being practiced. If you look at the symbols that they're using, the artwork that they admire, and the heroes and figures that inspire them then almost all of it is pagan. You might see a crusader painting here and there, but that's definitely in the minority compared to the amount of people who are connecting to their identity as a white European through symbols and images that are directly connected to European Paganism.

It makes perfect sense that this would be what caused the resurgence because if people are willing to fight and die to stop this invasion of Muslims then what is it that they're willing to die for? They will be fighting and dying for Europe and that in and of itself is a form of spirituality. The conflict that we're facing calls for an ethnically based spirituality because the whole point of this fight is to fight for the survival of Europe and white Europeans. Christianity is useless for this purpose and the amount of mental gymnastics that you would need to do to twist Christianity into an ethnic religion of any kind is just ridiculous.

When you consider the need that is within humans for some kind of spirituality, the present withering away of Christianity, and the unique circumstances of the invasion that practically demands for an ethnic spirituality, then a resurgence of European Paganism in some form seems to be inevitable to me.

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Hello my fellow aryans, did you worship your god Odin today?

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THE DAGDA

The father god and ruler of the Tuatha Dé Danann. Perhaps the most important of all the Celtic deities, Dagda (sometimes referred to as ‘The Dagda’) was worshiped by the Celts as the god of magic, wisdom, and fertility.

Dagda’s many fine possessions indicate the array of his talents. His magical club could kill with a strike from one side and restore life with a blow from the other. The weapon was so big that it could injure more than one man at a time, and Dagda had to drag it behind him on two wheels.

His cauldron could provide an endless supply of food for the gods. His fruit trees were always ready to harvest. Of his two swine, one was always roasting upon a spit while the other was always alive.

His harp could summon the seasons.

In various stories, Dagda is named as the son, the father, and sometimes the husband of the mother goddess Danu. His wife is usually given as Bóand. He also mates with Mórrígan at the start of the new year. His many children include Angus Óg, Bodb Derg, Brigit, and Midir.

Dagda killed many Fomorians in the second battle of Mag Tuired. But this battle ended his career, for he was killed there by Caitlín, wife of the Fomorian leader Balor.

In the middle of the second battle of Mag Tuired, the Fomorians and the Tuatha Dé Danann called a truce. The fighting halted for a short time, but neither side let its guard down. The Fomorians kept themselves busy looking for ways to gain the advantage over their adversaries. They thought that if they could distract the great father god, they might be able to win the battle. They also knew that Dagda had a weakness for porridge, his favorite food, so they decided to concoct a porridge of superhuman proportions.

The Fomorians began by digging a massive crater in the earth. They poured in enough milk to satisfy an entire village for one year. Then they added enough fat to supply an entire kingdom for two years. Next they added enough meal to feed every man, woman, and child in an entire province for three years. Then, for good measure, they threw in a flock of sheep, a herd of goats, and a passel of pigs.

The Fomorians challenged and taunted Dagda to eat the porridge or die. Dagda leaned over the great crater in the ground and sniffed at the mixture of ingredients. He put one giant finger into the mess and tasted it. To the amazement of the Fomorians, Dagda ate the entire huge crater of porridge. Feeling tired after such a big meal, Dagda lay down under a tree for a nap.

The Fomorians, annoyed that their plot had failed, devised a backup plan. They called for a woman to tempt the Dagda. If he mated with her, he would die. The Fomorians hid behind trees to see what would happen. Dagda woke briefly to see a young maiden lying beside him. Although he noticed that she was very pretty, he was still sleepy and satisfied from his meal, so he rolled over and went back to sleep. The Fomorians were foiled again.

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The Solar Storm: Seana Fenner

November 1, 2015

http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/the-solar-storm-seana-fenner-11-1-15/

Kyle speaks to Seana Fenner of Odinia International. They discuss the importance of our ancestors, communion with the dead, connecting with the gods, the possibility of reincarnation, the role of Ragnarok, Seana’s recent articles at VikingAlthing.org, and much more.

The links http://odinia.org/ http://vikingalthing.org/article/

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Heathen Harvest Article on Folkish Heathenry

Found this article on Heathen Harvest. It is dated by five months, so old news but worth mentioning (didn't see it anywhere on the catalogue).

It is a response to a sloppily researched article by VICE magazine (aren't they all?) about the "violent racism" prevalent in folkish Asatru painting McNallens group as goosestepping Nazis no different than the Aryan Brotherhood.

Here is the original Vice article (archived to avoid VICE getting shekels): https://archive.is/UQIap

And the Heathen Harvest article: http://heathenharvest.org/2015/05/12/contra-vitium-how-vice-mischaracterized-a-religious-movement/

The Heathen Harvest rebuttal is pretty good as it argues in a moderate way which would garner sympathy from outsiders who may otherwise be turned off by any sort of indigenous European tribalism (couches the argument within the paradigm of multiculturalism and preserving religious minorities).

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Hey don't you have to die a warrior's death or else you go to Hel?

How do you all intend to go out?

I bought two axes and I am going to get a hunting permit and go on a berserking rampage and fight bears in the forest till one gets me and I die with my axes crossed across my chest lying peacefully in the forest

Is that enough to get me to Sovngarde?

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Thoughts on Ernst Jünger and his views on chivalry (sportsmans-like attitude/behavior in Storm of Steel and name-dropping Ariosto), his figures of the Soldier, the Arbeiter, the Waldgänger, the Anarch and his late conversion to Catholicism in the twilight of his years?

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Knattleikr, the official sport game of asatru

Should norse heathenry ever become the leading faith of white nations again, should we re-introduce this game here as a national sports pastime?

Kinda like football in contemporary american society but as an asatrufied version instead

What would a Knattleikr stadium look like? What would the Knattleikr version of superbowl be called?

Let's share some dank ideas ITT

http://www.hurstwic.com/history/articles/daily_living/text/knattleikr.htm

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Deities For Various Roles

I have become fairly efficient in mental travel and evocation of entities.

I require deities other than Kek and Eris. Chaos alone won't fulfil my needs.

Tell me about who I can go to for magickal knowledge, love, physical cultivation, and various other matters?

Otherwise I'm going to have to chaos magick this shit and invent new egregores, but that's going to take a long-ass time to do. I especially want right now a deity that can help me find the perfect wife, so I don't make any mistakes there, and end up with a wife that is truly for me.

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Hello /asatru/

I've always been very interested in norse mythology, and especially the sides of it that deals with nature and our ancestors' spirituality concerning it.

Here in my country, we have this organization called Forn Sidr that I heard about many years ago and decided to investigate, and while they do indeed claim to practice asatru, they came across more like a hobby club than an actual religious circle. They talked very little about any kind of actual religious beliefs and a lot more about how we should all just get together and talk it out and come up with our own idea of what Asatru should be in modern times. While I think it's fine that they're open to new ideas, it put me off too, because it made it seem like it was more like a roleplaying club that held very little regard for the traditions and ideas of the old ways.

My first question here is, is there really enough information regarding the viking beliefs to revive this "dead" religion and provide genuine answers to spiritual questions in modern day, or will it always just be a corrupted and modernized imitation?

My second question is, I'm aware there's a lot of neo-nazi connections to "Wodenism", and that many Scandinavian and Germanic ultranationalists look to ancestor-worship more for its justifications for their political beliefs than any genuine religious conviction. Is that something that takes up a lot of space in the various Asatru circles? Do you find it's generally accepted, or do the "true believers" shun those who use the faith as a political tool?

Thirdly, both Islam and Christianity has tons of secondary literature on their primary sources, i.e the Koran and the Bible. Could you recommend me literature on this religion, apart from the Eddas? Has anyone written about the Eddas and what they mean in a religious sense?

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What does /asatru/ think about Golden Dawn's hellenic pagan roots and membership? If Golden Dawn win the coming elections and get leads, you could see a true interpretation of ancient European paganism manifest in state-funded avenues

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/asatru/ calender

Do we have an official calendar for holidays? Which one do you use? If we don't have one I suggest we put all the important dates and events into one ITT

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Hey asatru, I have a problem. I follow asatru to the best of my ability (not many places around here where I can buy Nordic things), but I have thoughts of being a female. I know most heathens stance on being a tranny, and I agree. It's a mental illness. Is there anything I can do to quell these thoughts so I can get some peace of mind? I've already quit jerking away my testosterone but it just made my urges worse. Thanks for your help.

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Question.

What was Odins punishment for atheism?

Did the norse/anglo saxon gods punish people for not believing in them?

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The Bloop is actually Jormungandr, the serpent of Midgard, sleeping on the ocean bed, wrapped around Earth(Midgard) waiting to awaken on the days of Ragnarok.

Prove me wrong. Protip: You can't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBN56wL35IQ

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>Ancient heathens were not Folk

k lel

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Explain this

What type of rituals do you do?

If you're theistic, have you ever experienced anything which you're certain was "supernatural"?

Is there any books on these types of rituals? I watched a documentary a long time ago and remember something about rituals that are considered externally dangerous to attempt, I would do them if I knew how to.

Also, what do you guys believe?

How can you interpret the ancient paganism metaphorically? What is there to learn from it? It's just a bunch of myths that the ancients used to explain shit they didn't understand. "It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit."

I'm new to all of this stuff… So links to places where I can read ancient texts and shit would be appreciated.

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/asatru/, what are your opinions on the Mithraic mysteries?

Unlike what some people believe Mithraic mysteries are uniquely European and the Mithraic Mithras has little if anything to do with the Persian Mithras, almost all of the Mithraic mystery temples are located in Western Europe and are centered around Rome.

I really like Mithra as a way to bridge the gap between various pagan European groups out there.

Mithras was at one point incorporated into all of the religions of the European parts of the Roman empire but almost none of the religions from outside of Europe.

Regretfully most of the believes and traditions have disappeared because of the secrecy of the cult, but thanks to it's rivalry with Christianity and it's links with pagans religions and especially the Sol Invictus cult we do know about some of the rituals, traditions and believes.

Could we build on these few things to create a new Mithras cult? A mystery cult that stands for all European peoples and against our invaders.

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Is he correct?

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Perspective on Asatru; there's more to it than the AFA

http://icelandmag.visir.is/article/heathenry-iceland-america-and-germany-mainstream-and-fringe

>Unlike Iceland, where one religious organization includes nearly all Heathens, America and Germany have a large number of national organizations, regional associations, local groups and lone practitioners.

>The Ásatrúarfélagið focuses on Icelandic heritage.

>Given the nation’s rich literary past and mostly monocultural society, its members can look to purely Icelandic sources for information on pre-Christian religion, mining the medieval Eddas and sagas for texts to be used in blóts (religious rituals) and for models of how these rituals may be performed.

>Members gather to discuss Old Icelandic poems, and several leaders of the organization actively participate in re-enactment of music, crafts and fighting techniques of Iceland’s early settlers.

>American Heathens tend to be more omnivorous in their studies. This is understandable, in light of the great cultural diversity of American society. >American Heathens incorporate elements from Iceland’s Eddas and sagas into their practice, but they also delve into literary sources from England, Denmark, Germany and the Roman Empire.

>German Heathens are interested in Icelandic materials, but largely turn to the pre-Christian history of their own region for inspiration and guidance.

>Written accounts of Germanic Heathens include Latin texts by Caesar and Tacitus; archeological evidence stretches back hundreds of years BCE.

> Andreas Zautner, a member of the German Heathen organization the Eldaring, stresses the importance of local history: “Specific historical Heathen events play an important role for Heathens in Germany.

>One event common to most Germans is the defeat of the Roman legions by Hermann the Cherusker. The two-thousandth anniversary of the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest was celebrated by German Heathens only a few years ago.”

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Hi, /asatru/. I would be grateful if someone could explain to me the relationship between the polytheistic Indo-European religions and gnosticism/alchemy.

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I find it extraordinarily strange that simultaneously on earth there are people living in luxury concerning themselves over absolute inanities such as where they should go on vacation next or who their neighbor is sleeping with, while there are others who are living in in such severe poverty that they suffer everyday in filth before starving to death or succumbing to disease or violence.

Some people are exposed to religion and philosophy which gives them tools to cope with suffering, others are kept in the dark and simply suffer in ignorance and confusion.

Does Asatru have an answer for this?

I understand that there is no principle of justice in nature, but the shear distance between the two states is almost too extreme to comprehend.

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Why not /rel/?

Why use a board dedicated to a particular religious orientation when you can use the general religion board?

>>>/rel/

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Resurrecting this board

So now that Next is no longer a thing, it looks like we're just watching the board descend into nothingness. Let's try to restart things with a discussion: what are your Asatru-related plans for this year?

I'm planning on doing my first rune casting soon and building a decent altar.

Hotwheels let me post

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Finding my heritage

What was the original religion of the English people? Would it even be right to still worship that religion today, seeing as how we have been integrated with many different peoples from all over the world… Saxons, Romans, Vikings, Normans, etc, all with their own pagan beliefs? Do modern English people have direct ancestry to the original inhabitants of England?

So what was the religion? I know it differed from other pagan beliefs around Europe, and I'm hoping to only pursue the original religion of the british people in an effort to revive our culture and heritage from the damage the Jews are doing.

You guys seem to know a lot about this stuff.

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Nationalism and Its Effects on Peace in Europe

With global crisis, unemployment, dissatisfaction, poverty and intolerance has increased and with it also nationalism. Political parties with nationalist platforms are rising and gaining more support around the world and Europe is no exception.

In Spain, Italy, and the United Kingdom and across Europe we can see the rise of the right. The financial crisis in the Eurozone and beyond has triggered rising of nationalists and far-right political parties.

The European Commission against Racism and Intolerance (ECRI) on 9th of JuIy released a report about the dramatic increase in anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, online hate speech and xenophobic political discourse as the main trends in 2014.

Nationalism can be positive with legitimacy, promotion of nations and inspiration for citizens or negative by creating tensions between different ethnicity and groups in or outside the country. Some negative aspects of ideology or political movement can be seen in the latest football matches in the Balkans, where supporters of team groups have burned many national flags and hooliganism that is the result of long lasting hatred and nationalism on the ground. Every country has its own history and different positions, but still similarities could be found.

The country all news is regarding to in recent times is Greece. A known slogan “Greece for Greeks” is well known in its anti-austerity party. Attacks against minorities and immigrants with racism are seen in one of the European Union (EU) members. Golden Dawn neo-Nazi party is linked to hundreds of violent attacks against minorities.

It is known for anti-immigration, racist-nationalist worldview. With elections being held this year in January the party captured 6.3% of the vote and 17 senate seats in Hellenic parliament and become the country’s third largest party. In 2014 the party won 9.4% of votes in European parliamentary election and with it 3 seats out of 21.

The party has been put on a trial this year for its criminal activity.

Nationalism in Greece has divided citizens and noncitizens to us and them and created the gap between both. With the economic crisis, Greeks debt, overall economic meltdown, unemployment and increasing number of refugees from different countries, the party led by Nikos Michaloliakos has gained more support and caused even greater intolerance to foreign people in need. Unfortunately, they are not the only one spreading intolerance. Many politicians have a stance against immigrants, which shapes the Greeks’ attitude towards nationalism.

https://archive.is/Fnu9K

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Pagan Midsummer Celebration in Latvia

Repost from >>>/pol/2671433 (https://archive.is/VidTh)

A mass gathering in Latvia celebrates the Midsummer holiday. They sing "Saule, Pērkons, Daugava" in praise of the gods of the sun, the water, and thunder.

This is the face of nationalism in Europe. Thousands of Latvians embracing the heritage of their ancestors, celebrating the traditions that have belonged to their people for thousands and thousands of years. Sweeping away the alien Christian religion that poisoned Europe with a foreign Semitic dogma.

This is the Europe that stood for millennia before foreigners imposed an invasive outside religion rooted in the Jewish Torah. This is the restoration of European greatness.

This is the glorious image of hope for the White race.

''Sun Latvia Seat

Where edges converge

Sea, green earth

key to the gate of Latvia

The key to the gate of Latvia

Daugava (Dvina) – the keeper

And when strangers broke into the gate

At sea, the key fell

Lightning struck Perun

After taking the key from the devils

Death and life are locked

Like white sea and green earth

Posada Sun Latvia

on the edge of the White Sea

winds raise Sands

What will our children drink?

The Sun God was

If only revived Daugaviņa

beasts tear direction.

the god is pouring from the heavens water of life

Living water and dead water

Poured into the River Daugava

I dip fingertips

The soul of the two sensations

Living water and dead water

soul in two senses

Sun – Our Mother

Daugava (High Water) lulls pain

Perun – Veles conqueror

Father to us.''

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>yfw God literally translates to Odin and the Odin tribes:

The translation for the word deus of the Latin Bible was influenced by the then current usage by the tribes for their highest deity, namely Wodan by Angles, Saxons, and Franks of north-central and western Europe, and Godan by the Lombards of south-central Europe around Rome. There are many instances where the name Godan and Wodan are contracted to God and Wod.[4] One instance is the wild hunt (a.k.a. Wodan's wild hunt) where Wod is used

Some variant forms of the name Odin such as the Lombardic Godan may point in the direction that the Lombardic form actually comes from Proto-Germanic *ǥuđánaz. Wōdanaz or Wōđinaz is the reconstructed Proto-Germanic name of a god of Germanic paganism, known as Odin in Norse mythology, Wōden in Old English, Wodan or Wotan in Old High German and Godan in the Lombardic language. Godan was shortened to God over time and was adopted/retained by the Germanic peoples of the British isles as the name of their deity, in lieu of the Latin word Deus used by the Latin speaking Christian church, after conversion to Christianity.

Proto-Germanic root geut- with the meaning "to pour" designating the tribes as "pourers of metal" or "forgers of men". The "pouring" etymology associates the name with the word god (*gudan "deity, idol"), which may be derived from the zero grade of the same root.

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Hitler Hated Pagans

>On the contrary, it is entirely out of harmony with the spirit of the nation to keep harping on that far-off and forgotten nomenclature which belongs to the ancient Germanic times and does not awaken any distinct association in our age. This habit of borrowing words from the dead past tends to mislead the people into thinking that the external trappings of its vocabulary are the important feature of a movement. It is really a mischievous habit; but it is quite prevalent nowadays.

>At that time, and subsequently, I had to warn followers repeatedly against these wandering scholars who were peddling Germanic folk-lore and who never accomplished anything positive or practical, except to cultivate their own superabundant self-conceit. The new movement must guard itself against an influx of people whose only recommendation is their own statement that they have been fighting for these very same ideals during the last thirty or forty years.

>Nobody of common sense would appoint to a leading post in such a movement some Teutonic Methuselah who had been ineffectively preaching some idea for a period of forty years, until himself and his idea had entered the stage of senile decay.

>Furthermore, only a very small percentage of such people join a new movement with the intention of serving its end unselfishly and helping in the spread of its principles. In most cases they come because they think that, under the aegis of the new movement, it will be possible for them to promulgate their old ideas to the misfortune of their new listeners. Anyhow, nobody ever seems able to describe what exactly these ideas are.

>It is typical of such persons that they rant about ancient Teutonic heroes of the dim and distant ages, stone axes, battle spears and shields, whereas in reality they themselves are the woefullest poltroons imaginable. For those very same people who brandish Teutonic tin swords that have been fashioned carefully according to ancient models and wear padded bear-skins, with the horns of oxen mounted over their bearded faces, proclaim that all contemporary conflicts must be decided by the weapons of the mind alone. And thus they skedaddle when the first communist cudgel appears. Posterity will have little occasion to write a new epic on these heroic gladiators.

>I have seen too much of that kind of people not to feel a profound contempt for their miserable play-acting. To the masses of the nation they are just an object of ridicule; but the Jew finds it to his own interest to treat these folk-lore comedians with respect and to prefer them to real men who are fighting to establish a German State. And yet these comedians are extremely proud of themselves. Notwithstanding their complete fecklessness, which is an established fact, they pretend to know everything better than other people; so much so that they make themselves a veritable nuisance to all sincere and honest patriots, to whom not only the heroism of the past is worthy of honour but who also feel bound to leave examples of their own work for the inspiration of the coming generation.

>Often it is difficult to distinguish between the two classes. The impression which I often get, especially of those so-called religious reformers whose creed is grounded on ancient Germanic customs, is that they are the missionaries and protégés of those forces which do not wish to see a national revival taking place in Germany. All their activities tend to turn the attention of the people away from the necessity of fighting together in a common cause against the common enemy, namely the Jew. Moreover, that kind of preaching induces the people to use up their energies, not in fighting for the common cause, but in absurd and ruinous religious controversies within their own ranks.

>In his memoirs, Nazi architect Albert Speer quotes Hitler on his disdain for SS leader Heinrich Himmler's interest in pagan mysticism & his own support for Christian Charlemagne's butchering of heathen Saxons: "What nonsense! Here we have at last reached an age that has left all mysticism behind it, and now [Himmler] wants to start that all over again. We might just as well have stayed with the church. At least it had tradition. To think that I may some day be turned into an SS saint! Can you imagine it? I would turn over in my grave…"

What do you have to say in your defense, /asatru/?

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What is your stance on nudity?

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Runes & Symbols

The Runes & Symbols Thread

Seek the wisdom of the runes. Learn their meanings and how to cast them in your life.

1st Aett - Freyr’s Aett
1. ᚠ Fehu ( >>288 ) 2. ᚢ Uruz ( >>289 ) 3. ᚦ Thurisaz ( >>290 ) 4. ᚨ Ansuz ( >>291 )
5. ᚱ Raidho ( >>292 ) 6. ᚲ Kenaz ( >>293 ) 7. ᚷ Gebo ( >>294 ) 8. ᚹ Wunjo ( >>295 )

Links:
Rune Secrets
http://runesecrets.com/

Oswald the Runemaker
http://www.runemaker.com/

The Elder Futhark
http://www.sunnyway.com/runes/meanings.html
http://www.ancientscripts.com/futhark.html
http://www.arild-hauge.com/efuthark.htm

Nothern Runes Radio
http://northernrunesradio.com/

Sacred Symbols
http://odinsvolk.ca/new/sacred-symbols/
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where in the world

so where is everybody from?

I'm from New Zealand, Where most people have never even heard of asatru. so far my only contact with other asatrurs is lurking on here.

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slach by warns

binnen der hjirre ek meesken die nei de betinking fan 'e slach by warns gean? myn pakes heit giet der altiid hinne en ien fan mien favorite bands is der ek, ik fine de slach by warns yn belangryke gebeurtnis yn'e skiednis fan'e germaanse folken, dus ik freegje mij au of er ek oare asatruers hinne gean

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Why the fuck aren't there any Nordic/Germanic Pagan religious texts or scriptures from 300BC to 900AD???

Indians, Chinese, Tibetans, Arabs, Jews, Greeks, Egyptians all have sacred texts and religions well preserved throughout those times.

Not only did they have tons of sacred scriptures but they had academies and commentaries on their scriptures and commentaries on their commentaries. Why the fuck are non-greek Europeans so stupid and basically had no contact with the divine or celestial realms and were illiterate?

>inb4 the Eddas

Those came later, written by a christian for fun, as a mythology.

>inb4 Christians ruined everything

the weak should fear the strong then, holy crap give me a real answer

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Sun Worship

Sun Worship Thread

Do you honor the Sun?

It is what gives us life and has let us know when we need to wake up

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Is wearing wolf skins redpilled?

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Hell /asatru/. I'm interested in heathenry, but seeing as my blood is for the most part Celtic, wouldn't it make more sense for me to convert to, and research, the druidic tradition? Also, I apologize if there is a general FAQ thread, I looked at the catalog and didn't find it.

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Designer babies

Would artificially developed humans be able to worship the gods? Lets say that two negros decided for some reason that they wanted to design a blonde haired blue eyed kid that was caucasian down to their genetic makeup, would they be exempt from worshiping our gods because of their ancestry if not their genetics?

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how do we get new mods? are the mods of this board even alive?

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Confused youngling

Hello /asatru/

Over the past couple of days, i've gotten into a very heated argument with an asatru believer. He implied that genes aren't important in the context of beliefs (asatru in this case). That culture and race are seperate, and that race as a whole is completely a social construct. So it wouldn't make sense to feel any inherent connection to your "ancestors". I think the guy is Portugese. I'm pretty confused with alot of this, which is why i'm now here. I'm very interested in your take on this. The argument rose from a discussion about Stephen McNallen and how he percieved McNallen as being a racist. I took offense to this, seeing as how McNallen was the guy that introduced me to asatru. I think it's important to mention that i'm still fairly new to asatru as a whole, even though i've always had a great fascination for my ancestral roots. I'm Danish.

Safe to say. He honesty rustled my jimmies quite a bit. It was my first time ever getting into an argument of this nature, so i wasn't really prepared. And being a fairly new practitioner only made it worse. I guess what i'm trying to say is, is it really racist to suggest that genes play a big part in asatru? I honestly don't understand how it's racist to suggest that an African aren't really connected to the northern eurpean gods. I don't consider myself a racist, at all. But what the fuck man? Our countries are being flooded with muslim immigrants. Can we seriously not have anything for ourselves anymore? It seems to me that alot of these people are looking for loopholes that will allow them to take part in something that never was theirs to begin with. This false sense of diversity is pissing me off. Am i the asshole here? I sure hope not. I never expected to find leftist SJW mentality in asatru.

I realise that i sound like a fucking child trying to wrap his head around a subject that is too complex for him to grasp. Please bare with me. This is all very new.

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latsbrah's birthday challenge

so are any of you guys doing this? i fill the requirements by default already (though exercise could be more) and it seems a good idea for people who don't

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/cucktianity/

This is to let everyone know that there is an anti-Christian resource board at >>>/cucktianity/ It is extensively researched, and pretty unique as a resource. Even most of the people here could read it and learn a lot of new things about how ugly and depraved a religion it is.

If you have ever argued with Christians online, you'll appreciate this.

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Do you consider the Germanic tribes to have been civilized?

Why didn't they build cities before their Christianization?

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