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What is Asatru?

Long before Christianity came to northern Europe, the people there – our ancestors – had their own form of spirituality that influenced every aspect of their culture. One expression of this European spirituality was Asatru. It was practiced in the lands that are today Scandinavia, England, Germany, France, the Netherlands, and other countries as well. Asatru is the original, or native, religion for the peoples who lived in these regions. Nevertheless, Asatru is more than just a religion in the narrow sense of the word. It is our way of being in the world; some of us call it the “Germanic Folkway” to underline this larger concept.

What does the word “Asatru” mean?

It means, roughly, “belief in the Gods” or “those true to the Gods” in Old Norse, the language of ancient Scandinavia in which so much of our source material was written. (A more literal translation would be “gaining experience of the ancestral sovereign gods.”) Asatru is a name given to the religion of the Norsemen, but we use this term to include the spiritual worldview of all the Germanic peoples, not just the Scandinavians.

When did Asatru start?

Asatru is thousands of years old (though it is practiced in a modern form today, to meet the needs of our age). Its beginnings are lost in prehistory, but it is older than Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, or most other religions. The spirit it expresses, though, is as ancient as the northern European peoples themselves because it is an innate expression of who and what we are – not merely a set of arbitrary beliefs we have adopted.

Why do we need Asatru? Aren’t most people who want religion satisfied with Christianity or one of the other “established” religions?

People are attracted to the better-known religions because they have genuine spiritual needs which must be filled. People are looking for community, fellowship, and answers to the “big questions”: the purpose of life, how we should live it, and what happens after death. For many people today, the so-called major faiths do not have answers that work. Asatru does. Once seekers realize that there is another way – a way that is true to our innermost essence – they will not be satisfied with anything less than a return to the Way of their ancestors.

Why is the religion of our ancestors the best one for us?

Because we are more like our ancestors than we are like anyone else. We inherited not only their general physical appearance, but also their predominant mental, emotional, and spiritual traits. We think and feel more like they did; our basic needs are most like theirs. The religion which best expressed their innermost nature – Asatru – is better suited to us than is some other creed which started in the Middle East among people who are essentially different from us. Judaism, Islam, and Christianity are alien religions that do not truly speak to our souls.

Why did Asatru die out if it was the right religion for Europeans?

Asatru was subjected to a violent campaign of repression over a period of hundreds of years. Countless thousands of people were murdered, maimed, and exiled in the process. The common people (your ancestors!) did not give up their cherished beliefs easily. Eventually, the monolithic organization of the Christian church, bolstered by threats of economic isolation and assisted by an energetic propaganda campaign, triumphed over the valiant but unsophisticated tribes.

Or so it seemed! Despite this persecution, elements of Asatru continued down to our own times – often in the guise of folklore – proving that our own native religion appeals to our innermost beings in a fundamental way. Now, a thousand years after its supposed demise, it is alive and growing. Indeed, so long as there are men and women of European descent, it cannot really die because it springs from the soul of our people.

Asatru isn’t just what we believe, it’s what we are.

Wasn’t the acceptance of Christianity a sign of civilization – a step up from barbarism?

No. The so-called “barbarians” who followed Asatru (the Vikings, the various Germanic tribes, and so forth) were the source of our finest civilized traditions – trial by jury, parliaments, Anglo Saxon Common Law, the right to bear arms, and the rights of women, to name a few. Our very word “law” comes from the Norse language, not from the tongues of the Christian lands. We simply did not, and do not, need Christianity or other Middle Eastern creeds in order to be civilized.

You say Asatru was the religion of the Vikings, among other early European cultures. Weren’t they a pretty bloodthirsty lot?

Modern historians agree that the Vikings were no more violent than the other peoples of their times. Remember, the descriptions of Viking raids and invasions were all written by their enemies, who were hardly unbiased. Both the Islamic and Christian cultures used means every bit as bloody, if not more so, than the Norsemen. It was a very rough period in history for all concerned!

We keep talking about the Vikings. Does this mean that Asatru is only for people of Scandinavian ancestry?

No. Asatru, as practiced by the Norse peoples, had so much in common with the religion of the other Germanic tribes, and with their cousins the Celts, that it may be thought of as one version of a general European religion. Asatru is a natural religion for all people of European origin, whether or not their heritage is specifically Scandinavian.

What are the basic tenets or beliefs of Asatru?

We believe in an all-pervading divine essence which is beyond our immediate understanding. We further believe that this spiritual reality is interdependent with us – that we affect it, and it affects us.

We believe that this divine essence expresses itself to us in the forms of the Gods and Goddesses. Stories about these deities are like a sort of code, the mysterious “language” through which the divine reality speaks to us.

We believe in standards of behavior which are consistent with these spiritual truths and harmonious with our deepest being.

How does Asatru differ from other religions?

Asatru is unlike the better-known religions in many ways. Some of these are:

• We are polytheistic. That is, we believe in a number of deities, including Goddesses as well as Gods. (We have a tongue-in-cheek saying that a religion without a Goddess is halfway to atheism!)

• We do not accept the idea of “original sin,” the notion that we are tainted from birth and therefore intrinsically bad. Thus, we do not need “saving.”

• We do not claim to be a universal religion, a faith for all of humankind. In fact, we don’t think such a thing is possible or desirable. The different branches of humanity have different ways of looking at the world, each of which is valid for the ancestral group in question. It is only right that they have different religions.

Do you consider the Norse myths to be true?

The myths are stories about the Gods and Goddesses of Asatru. We believe they are ways of stating spiritual truths. That is, we would say they contain truths about the nature of divinity, our own nature, and the relationship between the two. We do not contend that the myths are literally true, as history. Rather, myth can be thought of as “the dream of the race” or “that which never happened, but is always true.”

What about these Gods and Goddesses? Are they real?

Yes, they are real. However, just as most Christians do not think their God is really an old bearded figure sitting on a golden chair in heaven, we do not believe Thor (for example) is actually a muscular, man-shaped entity carrying a big hammer. There is a real Thor, but we approach an understanding of him through this particular mental picture.

Do followers of Asatru pray to their Gods and Goddesses?

Yes, but not quite the way most people mean by the word. We never surrender our will to theirs or humble ourselves before them, because we see ourselves as their kin, not as their property. Nor do we beg and plead. We do, however, commune with them and honor them while seeking their blessing through formal rites and informal meditation. Actually, living a full and virtuous life is a form of prayer in itself. Our religion should affect all parts of our lives, not just some fragments that we choose to call “religious.”

Don’t you worship stones and trees and idols?

No. We know that trees, wooden statues, the Sun, and other natural or man-made objects are not Gods, so we don’t worship them. We do sometimes use these items as reminders of a God or Goddess, but we would never confuse them with the actual deity!

You mentioned certain standards of behavior taught in Asatru. What are these?

Some of the qualities we hold in high regard are strength, courage, joy, honor, freedom, loyalty to kin, realism, vigor, and the revering of our ancestors. To express these things in our lives is virtuous, and we strive to do this. Their opposites – weakness, cowardice, adherence to dogma rather than to the realities of the world, and the like – constitute our vices and are to be avoided. Proper behavior in Asatru consists of maximizing one’s virtues and minimizing one’s vices.

This code of conduct reflects the highest and most heroic ideals of our people.

Don’t all religions believe in these things you’ve just named?

No. People may honestly believe that this is the case, but examination does not bear this out. They believe in freedom on the one hand, yet at the same time admit they are slaves to their God. They agree that joy is good, but their teachings laden them with guilt because of some imaginary “original sin.” They want to accept the real world on a pragmatic basis, yet they are trained to believe without questioning when the teachings of their religion conflict with reason or with known facts about the nature of the world (“You must have faith.”).

Of course, many people believe in the values of Asatru on a gut level. After all, they’re instinctive, passed down to us from our ancestors. We want to believe that the better-known religions espouse those values, so we see what we want to see. Most people just haven’t yet realized that the major religions are saying things that conflict with the values we know in our hearts are right. To find European virtues, one has to look to a religion truly consistent with those virtues – Asatru.

What do you have to say about good and evil?

Good and evil are not constants. What is good in one case will not be good in another, and evil in one circumstance will not be evil under a different set of conditions. In any one instance, the right course of action will have been shaped by the influence of the past and the present. The result may or may not be “good” or “evil,” but it will still be the right action.

In no case are good and evil dictated to us by edicts written by an authoritarian deity. We are expected to use our freedom, responsibility, and awareness of duty to serve the highest and best ends.

What does Asatru teach about an afterlife?

We believe that there is an afterlife, and that those who have lived lives of virtue and power will go on to experience greater fulfillment, pleasure, and challenge. Those who have led lives characterized by vice, weakness, and a low level of consciousness will be separated from kin, doomed to a vegetative state of dullness and gloom. The precise nature of the afterlife – what it will look like and feel like – is beyond our understanding and is dealt with symbolically in the myths.

There is also a tradition in Asatru of rebirth within the family line. Perhaps the individual is able to choose whether or not he or she is re-manifested in this world, or there may be natural laws governing this. In a sense, of course, we all live on in our descendants quite apart from an afterlife as such.

To be honest, we of Asatru do not overly concern ourselves with the next world. We live here and now, in this existence. If we do this and do it well, the next life will take care of itself.

Does Asatru involve ancestor worship?

Asatru says we should honor our ancestors. It also says we are bonded to those ancestors in a special way. One of the implications of this relationship is that the ancestors need our veneration, and that they reciprocate by looking out for us from beyond death.

We also believe our forebears have passed to us certain spiritual qualities just as surely as they have given us various physical traits. They live on in us. The family or clan is above and beyond the limits of time, space, and mortality.

Does Asatru have a holy book, like the Bible?

No. There are written sources that are useful to us because they contain much of our sacred lore in the form of myths and examples of right conduct, but we do not accept them as infallible or inspired documents. Any religion holding such beliefs of infallibility is deceived about the purity and precision of the written word.

There are two real sources of holy truth, and neither expresses itself to us in words. One is the universe around us, which is a manifestation of the underlying divine essence. The other is the universe inside us, passed down from our ancestors as instinct, emotion, innate predispositions, and perhaps even racial memory. By combining these sources of internal and external wisdom with the literature left us by our ancestors, we arrive at religious truths. This living spiritual guidance is better than any dusty, dogmatic “holy book”.

I’ve heard Asatru described as a “Nature religion”. What does that mean?

We treasure the spiritual awe, the feeling of “connecting” with the Gods and Goddesses, which can come from experiencing the beauty and majesty of Nature. Our deities act in and through natural law. By working in harmony with Nature we can become co-workers with the Gods. This attitude removes the opposition between “natural” and “supernatural”, and the supposed conflict between religion and science.

For us, following a “Nature religion” means recognizing that we are part of Nature, subject to all its laws. We may be Gods-in-the-making, but we are members of the animal kingdom nonetheless!

Where did the universe come from, according to Asatru?

Our myths describe the beginning of the universe as the unfolding of a natural process, rather than an event requiring supernatural intervention. Followers of Asatru need not abandon modern science to retain their religion. The old lore of our people describes the interaction of fire and ice, and the development of life from these – but this is symbolic, and we will leave it to the physicists to discover how the universe was born.

What are the runes, and what do they have to do with Asatru?

Runes are ancient Germanic symbols representing various concepts or forces in the universe – the holy mysteries. Taken together, they express our ancestors’ worldview. Their meanings are intimately connected with the teachings of Asatru. Our myths tell the story of how Odin, father of the Gods, won them through painful ordeal so that Gods and humans alike might benefit from their wisdom.

How is Asatru organized?

There is no all-powerful spiritual leader who speaks for all of Asatru, but there are numerous leaders who speak to and for their particular constituencies. While Asatru has definite principles accepted by most of our adherents, we generally allow a considerable degree of freedom in interpreting religious truth.

http://asatrufolkassembly.org/faq/

Questions Thread

Muslims in the West sacrifice animals in the name of their god. What is your excuse? You can buy a live sheep or goat for not an impossible price.

How can we drive the posting rate on our board up again fams?

>mfw people deny that the gods are real

Does this piss anyone else off? Of course the gods are "literally" real. Our ancestors did not perform their burials as some figurative "symbolical" gesture. They considered the gods as real beings, as real as you or I, and as a living presence. If you don't literally believe in the gods you aren't a heathen. You're still a cultural Christian, though even worse, because instead of giving our ancestors the respect of outright preaching against their "false gods", you try to pervert & trivialize their faith. Odin is real. Freya is real. Thor is real. They are literally existing entities, and have always been seen as such.

Norsepilled games

Runes & Symbols

PDF Thread

I was wondering if we could get a dedicated PDF thread going, and have it as either a Sticky, or referred to in the in Master Sticky: >>2 so that it can be quickly and efficiently found by newbies.

We can also have a system where if you want to share a pdf, you start your own Mega account and just share your secure link. Then others can download your pdf to their computer and then upload it to their Mega account, and you can download their pdfs to your computer and then upload them to your Mega accounts.

That way, we can have multiple mirrors of our pdf collections in the event that SHTF, and do so in a secure fashion that is void of open usernames and passwords, and direct sharing of Mega accounts that can be exploited by hacker trolls.

Here's the current collection:

https://mega.nz/#F!fIchVA7Y!owKwAgGKq9pgXrbVOnkeag

Runes for Self-discipline

I've been looking for runes or bind runes to associate with each of the nine noble virtues. Does this exist already?

Discipline is currently the concept I'm focusing on for improvement so I've been toying with formulating a rune to represent self-discipline. I've heard that Thursiaz is sometimes taken to mean self-discipline, I'm not sure how accurate that is though.

I've combined Teiwaz (analysis, rationality) and Ehwaz (movement) to represent self-discipline.

Does anyone have any better suggestions for runes or bind runes to represent self-discipline? How about for the rest of the nine noble virtues?

Vinland

As an Asatru American I sometimes feel ashamed that I do not live in Europe but when I look at the state Europe is currently in I rather live here.

My question is for anyone who lives in America or even Europeans with an outside observation. Does being an American really make anyone disingenuous to the Asatru faith? Or rather "fake" or a "poser"?

I also contended that the gods are with the folk rather than the place/location. I mean did the Kievian Rus stop believing when they moved from Sweden to Russia? Or did the Icelanders stop believing when they sail from Norway to new lands? In fact one of those new lands was America (Vinland).

I just want to put it to rest already that America or being an American does not mean we cannot worship the European gods.

Heathen hairstyles

Ostara Info General

Hitler Hated Pagans

>On the contrary, it is entirely out of harmony with the spirit of the nation to keep harping on that far-off and forgotten nomenclature which belongs to the ancient Germanic times and does not awaken any distinct association in our age. This habit of borrowing words from the dead past tends to mislead the people into thinking that the external trappings of its vocabulary are the important feature of a movement. It is really a mischievous habit; but it is quite prevalent nowadays.

>At that time, and subsequently, I had to warn followers repeatedly against these wandering scholars who were peddling Germanic folk-lore and who never accomplished anything positive or practical, except to cultivate their own superabundant self-conceit. The new movement must guard itself against an influx of people whose only recommendation is their own statement that they have been fighting for these very same ideals during the last thirty or forty years.

>Nobody of common sense would appoint to a leading post in such a movement some Teutonic Methuselah who had been ineffectively preaching some idea for a period of forty years, until himself and his idea had entered the stage of senile decay.

>Furthermore, only a very small percentage of such people join a new movement with the intention of serving its end unselfishly and helping in the spread of its principles. In most cases they come because they think that, under the aegis of the new movement, it will be possible for them to promulgate their old ideas to the misfortune of their new listeners. Anyhow, nobody ever seems able to describe what exactly these ideas are.

>It is typical of such persons that they rant about ancient Teutonic heroes of the dim and distant ages, stone axes, battle spears and shields, whereas in reality they themselves are the woefullest poltroons imaginable. For those very same people who brandish Teutonic tin swords that have been fashioned carefully according to ancient models and wear padded bear-skins, with the horns of oxen mounted over their bearded faces, proclaim that all contemporary conflicts must be decided by the weapons of the mind alone. And thus they skedaddle when the first communist cudgel appears. Posterity will have little occasion to write a new epic on these heroic gladiators.

>I have seen too much of that kind of people not to feel a profound contempt for their miserable play-acting. To the masses of the nation they are just an object of ridicule; but the Jew finds it to his own interest to treat these folk-lore comedians with respect and to prefer them to real men who are fighting to establish a German State. And yet these comedians are extremely proud of themselves. Notwithstanding their complete fecklessness, which is an established fact, they pretend to know everything better than other people; so much so that they make themselves a veritable nuisance to all sincere and honest patriots, to whom not only the heroism of the past is worthy of honour but who also feel bound to leave examples of their own work for the inspiration of the coming generation.

>Often it is difficult to distinguish between the two classes. The impression which I often get, especially of those so-called religious reformers whose creed is grounded on ancient Germanic customs, is that they are the missionaries and protégés of those forces which do not wish to see a national revival taking place in Germany. All their activities tend to turn the attention of the people away from the necessity of fighting together in a common cause against the common enemy, namely the Jew. Moreover, that kind of preaching induces the people to use up their energies, not in fighting for the common cause, but in absurd and ruinous religious controversies within their own ranks.

>In his memoirs, Nazi architect Albert Speer quotes Hitler on his disdain for SS leader Heinrich Himmler's interest in pagan mysticism & his own support for Christian Charlemagne's butchering of heathen Saxons: "What nonsense! Here we have at last reached an age that has left all mysticism behind it, and now [Himmler] wants to start that all over again. We might just as well have stayed with the church. At least it had tradition. To think that I may some day be turned into an SS saint! Can you imagine it? I would turn over in my grave…"

What do you have to say in your defense, /asatru/?

Vikings TV Series General

New Varg video, heathens

For America dwelling bros out there, which is the most Volkisch Presidential Candidate?

I'm supporting Donald Trump despite his support for Christianity. I suspect he may be a demigod in human form.

His promotion of nationalism and isolationism may be the answer that not only America, but the Western World needs.

How big is your Mjölnir, /asatru/?

Tell your story...

ITT: Tell us you personal story. Whatever. How you found Asatru, how you

Became convinced this was your path, or its any story you find significant to you personally.

Allow me to tell my own. This literally happened tonight:

>Go outside on my porch with a good bottle of beer

>settle my mind and focus on my ancestors

>hold up the beer and specifically call out to my maternal grandfather as we was my paternal grandmother and grandfather

>I thank them for the sacrifices they made so that I could be as successful as I am

>I tell them I love them

> pour out some beer & take a sip myself

> suddenly feels overwhelming sense of love being directed at me

> at that exact moment, I see the brightest shooting "star" I've ever seen.

>I'm in awe, it was beautiful

>I pour out more beer to my deep ancestors as well as the heroes of old

>take one last sip of beer

>tell my grandparents that I love them and pour out the rest of the beer

This was the most profound experience I've had since coming back to out ancestral faith. I would love to hear any stories you would like to share. Please don't be shy.

Also;

>any lore you might know related to shooting stars & Germanic culture (I could use google, but that defeats the purpose of this community)

Is there any serious community for discussion of the Nordic Custom?

Look, I just need to get this outta my system. /r/asatru sucks, it's just a bunch of inane babble about "frith" and shit, whenever someone talks about a personal experience, even if it's about the ancestors or local spirits, it's said to be just a coincidence. It seems like their not interested in a religion, just a bunch of faggotry. FUCK. They're not even interested in foreign practices like Datuk Gong, that are highly relevant for this religion.

This board sucks too by the way, I've been reading through a bit, and every fucking page seems to be about racial shit, or mead and other viking shit. Fuck.

On Islam

Where does /asatru/ stand on traditional Islam?

I ask because a friend who had introduced me to politics and Asatru is planning on becoming a Muslim. He says it doesn't conflict with his traditionalist views and in fact supports them. Both Paganism and Islam are worldly, in the Nietzschean sense, in contrast to Christianity which is otherworldly. So basically Asatru and Islam share a common enemy in the Christian, although it still might not be possible for pagans to ally with Muslims.

From Nietzsche:

>If Islam despises Christianity, it has a thousandfold right to do so: Islam at least assumes that it is dealing with men.

>Christianity destroyed for us the whole harvest of ancient civilization, and later it also destroyed for us the whole harvest of Mohammedan civilization. The wonderful culture of the Moors in Spain, which was fundamentally nearer to us and appealed more to our senses and tastes than that of Rome and Greece, was trampled down (—I do not say by what sort of feet—) Why? Because it had to thank noble and manly instincts for its origin—because it said yes to life, even to the rare and refined luxuriousness of Moorish life!… The crusaders later made war on something before which it would have been more fitting for them to have grovelled in the dust—a civilization beside which even that of our nineteenth century seems very poor and very “senile.”

'While both Islam and Asatru can be used to cleanse the West of the Christian virus, including its liberal egalitarianism, it's only in Islam that something is actively being done. Pagans may not gain power soon enough, and it's the Muslims who are doing to Christians what the Christians did to pagans of old. At least this means Muslims cannot raze pagan structures and temples, as there is nothing to raze in the first place.'

This is roughly what my friend says, I'm not sure I fully agree with him and will research this subject further.

Healthy Sexuality in Heathenry

What does healthy sexuality look like in the context of a Heathen worldview and society?

Obviously it is not the out of control promiscuity of the modern world, but I doubt it's the "beg Jesus for forgiveness for rubbing one out" of Christianity either.

Yet there is not too much I can think of that is written down about sexuality from a Heathen perspective outside of a few definites; like a general frowning down on homosexuality, and women cheating on their spouses having their heads shaven and then driven from the village by whipping.

Yet there are also grey areas such as the existence of brothels, though such things existed throughout most, if not all of traditionalist civilization. Even the Christian, Augustine, famously remarked "If you do away with harlots, the world will be convulsed with lust." Looking at the world around us, I think our ancestors were on to something with that one.

What say you fellow Heathens?

Video of the Week

Nominate the video you want to see featured in the sticky thread each week, and then vote for the videos posted by you or other users.

Rules:

1) Only one video per user can be added to the thread each week, and only from Monday to Friday. (A nominated video doesn't count as a vote. See below)

2) Each user has 3 votes per week that they can cast on videos posted in the thread. Users can cast a vote on their own nominated video, which would leave them with 2 votes. A user can't vote for one video multiple times. Voting takes place on the weekend. (Don't worry about time zones, just follow your local time zone.)

3) Videos posted must be /asatru/ related, pro-European or folkish.

To cast a vote; just post a link to the video post number in the thread, and say whether it's your first/second/third vote.

The votes are counted the following Monday. If 2 or more videos have the same number of votes; the board owner/volunteer decides the winner.

Tattoos

What are your thoughts on tattoos? Is tattooing itself a European concept or is it foreign altogether?

Do you have any tattoos or are you planning on getting any?

Human sacrifice

What does /asatru/ think about human sacrifice? Would it be allowed in a norse-pilled society?

Shenism

Where does /asatru/ stand on Chinese Folk Religion?

Preparing for death

How can one achieve indifference to life and death?

Esoteric aspects of the Heathen Mythologies

Wanted to see if we could get a thread started that discusses the more Esoteric aspects of the Exoteric Myths.

There have been hints of such concepts in threads here and there, but not really a concentrated thread.

The closest that I've seen of a thread manifesting this concept is Varg Vikernes' videos, but for whatever reason he doesn't give his sources in said videos.

One esoteric theory I've kicked around (and I imagine others have as well) is that Odin's quest for the Runes is at least partially a metaphor for the power of writing and literacy, in addition to magic.

What if Nordics had pointed ears, fangs, and tails?

High Quality Folkish Heathen Propaganda

I feel a bit saddened by the serious lack of any dedicated, consistent, high-quality asatru propaganda efforts drawing fellow potentially like-minded white europeans to our socio-spiritual cause.

The youtube channel of the Odinic Rite for example has mostly just a few handheld camera videos with no narration or any guiding commentary, save for that one video with the british guy in a black shirt talking about Tolkien for two minutes and stuff.

We may be (at least on paper) among the fastest-growing european spiritual movements today, but we still decidedly lack a unified approach to our multimedia endevaours. We could grow and reach critical mass even faster, but for this to suceed we need to have people producing our media who actually know what they're doing.

ITT let us discuss on how to enhance audiovisual asatru agitation and the likes, also let's think of some pro-white greenpilled heathen hashtags as well while we're at it.

Washing with blood.

Or learning from the Mormons.

Hello everybody. I want to share some thoughts and ideas with you. Maybe they already exist, in that case I’d be grateful if you could forward them to me. Apologies for the rambling, but I hope you’ll read it.

Basically a book made me realize, that in the case of Islam, many of its disgusting characteristics already existed before Islam existed. The disgusting nature of those people is not a result of their religion, but the religion is a result of their blood. Now, that should be obvious for most people here.

Secondly, my attention shifted to the Mormons recently and I read up some of their stuff on Wikipedia and realized there are very important differences between how their Church is set up compared to the rest of the Christian churches.

The most important one is that, they proclaim the bible to not be finished. All Mormons are allowed to “receive revelations” for their families. This implies, that the bible, a product of Jewish blood and thought, can be questioned with products of the churches members, mostly Europeans. As a result, this allows the Mormons to become more and more European, as the new revelations are of European origin. It’s not really surprising, that some Churches call the Mormons polytheistic now, is it? This is exactly the direction we’d expect their blood would make them go. Now, Mormons still consider the Bible as legitimate, so they are lost anyway to the eternal cuckening of their holy Jew.

But what does that mean for us? It both means, that without the bible, European faith would be able to regenerate, and that there are many aspects in European religious customs can be used by us if they are not a product of the bible, but a product of the Europeans themselves.

It also means, that if we come up with an idea or an idea will come to us, it surely can change us, but the idea will always be changed more by the blood. As the idea (or meme) is passed on, it should become more and more European.

So what I am suggesting is create knowledge by actively throwing texts, ideas and memes at each other and sort through it by checking what of it all sticks. All work done for European spirituality is ultimately legitimized by our blood, as it is the source of it. This also means, people not of European heritage are to be discriminated as they will distort our endeavour.

Our Christian contamination can be washed away through the masses of people and their blood. Depending on their origin we can adapt and reform Christian practices, destroying their bad parts and keeping the good ones.

That way we will not end up as people re-enacting Bronze age Germans and work our way up, but keep some of the diamonds our blood created in the last hundreds of years.

Soldiers of Odin

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3465598/Islamists-form-Soldiers-Allah-group-Norway-response-controversial-Soldiers-Odin-reveal-uniform-featuring-ISIS-logo.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline

"The Soldiers of Odin was formed last autumn and have been patrolling streets in several Finnish towns 'to protect the Finns from the threat of asylum seekers'.

Earlier this month, a group of Soldiers of Odin were seen on a vigilante walk through the town of Tønsberg in southern Norway.

During what is believed to be the first appearance of Soldiers of Odin groups outside of Finland, some 14 'soldiers' walked around the town on Saturday night."

/asatru/ YouTube

Lets get this board posting again, lads. Post your favorite /asatru/ or otherwise right wing youtubers.

https://www.youtube.com/user/ThuleProductions

https://www.youtube.com/user/ThuleanPerspective

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheLatsbrah

http://en-antichristos44.blogspot.com/

http://8ch.net/antichristchan/ check this out guys

I Collect Folders

Hello I am collecting material from all boards, if you guys have any well-organized big folders full of content, send them my way.

I want a big fat /asatru/ folder if any of you got one.

If none of you have such a thing, just send me you messy disorganized crap, and I'll just sort through it all myself and rename all the files.

How many of you faget played this game?

Newgrange Hall

I don't know if shilling or not but the AFA are currently trying to raise funds to buy their own Hall + few acres of land to hold events and such.

I think it is pretty neat. Also considering how Iceland is building their own cuck temple. Which is going to suck dick (literally).

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/newgrange-hall-asatru-hof#/story

At the time of my racial awakening I have realized that Christianity had disrupted us from our ethnic spiritual traditions. The more I think about this the more I sense the magnitude of this loss. We often hear about how the Church has disrupted other tribal peoples connection to their heritage, but this disruption happened to Europeans very early on.

The earlier expressions of our race-soul can still be found archived in Christian practice and tradition. Still, this is not the same as a conscious and full awareness of these traditions, nor a full awareness of the spiritual importance of our connection to our past.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0WfUIcZz0c

Pagan Attire General

Genetics

What would a pagan-asatru wedding even look like? Do we know? How does marriage even work in asatru?

This video made me think about pagan marriages

is there any argument for polytheism? there's entire volumes written on arguments for a diety, but all of them point to a monotheism.

Music

Hi /asatru/. I'm interested in reading "Nordens demring" and other books by Niels Christian Brøgger but can't seem to find them anywhere, neither to download or to buy. Can you help me?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niels_Christian_Br%C3%B8gger

>Greenpilled asatru-related astral journeys/experiences and their possible meanings

ITT let us share various asatru-related dreams we had, be they concicse or cryptic in nature.

I'll start with a quite peculiar one i had last night.

hammer and the cross

Anyone have a link to an epub/pdf of hammer and the cross? Thanks!

since mean mods locked thread im replying to retard troll here

>>9600

werewolf comes from the anglo saxon word "were" (man) and wolf (fucking wolf retard)

its origins are common across many cultures but in terms of germanic and european culture many of the barbarian cultures such as the scythians, celts and germans were known to have rites of passage where a young warrior would wear a wolfskin for a certain amount of time and live as if they were wolves, at the end of which they would become a specialized shock warrior (to the germanics they were called beserks)

werewolves as a myth came out of these traditions when they died down in practice and became more memorized in the sagas and legends as magical and supernatural. werewolves however are different from the mythical beserks in the sagas, as a werewolf actually changes into a wolf and has no choice in the matter, and completely loses his humanity, and usually a werewolf gains it by some curse (a disease from a rapid wolf, blasphemous sacrifice of children to zeus, and wearing wolfskins after killing women were all known to cause lycanthropy as curses). a beserk however is different, they become a beserk not through a curse but a blessing given by odin to his favored warriors. these warriors hoped to gain the attention and favor of the war-gods (NOTICE ME SENPAI) by arrogant boasting, wearing little to no armor in combat and in place elaborate ritual helmets or animal skins, and chanting, or more accurately screaming, war-chants to frighten their enemies, inspire their friends and praise the gods of sword and axe. a beserk had some control over his blessing but it was not total, there are some stories in the sagas where beserks slay their kinsmen in fits of rage or kill an ally in the chaos of battle. however although the beserkergang is essentially about losing the self through trance, war and devotion to odin, this was for a higher purpose and transcendence. the beserks were holy warriors, the zealots of wodanaz and crusaders of the teutonic religion. they lose their humanity in order to become even more human, as in I LIVE, I DIE, I LIVE AGAIN for the memers, even though its a dumb meme from a good movie, the phrase is a pretty good summary of the cult of odin and the purpose of the beserk. werewolves are a cursed reflection of the beserk

now get the fuck out christ shill

How do I become a werewolf?

Pagan Web Radio stations

help

alright guys, I know this board is slow now, but a big awakening is going on on /pol/ right now. I am fucking confused now. I just don't know about Christianity anymore. I am sort of Catholic, I used to be atheist, but now I see the cuckoldry that is gripping the church with the new Pope and what not, and protestantism is equally if not more cucked, and orthodoxy is only for slavs and greeks. I have mostly irish heritage with the rest being mostly english and a little bit of a bunch of other european countries. mostly though, like probably 70% is irish, and the rest being mostly english, like 15-25%. So, i have no real connection to the nordic Gods, but to the celtic ones maybe. I looked into celtic paganism but only found sjws and wicca shit. Where can i learn about nationalistic celtic paganism? Where can I learn about the beliefs of my ancestors, and also, how can I be sure that this belief is right? Even though I doubt the Church a lot right now, i still fear hell if I leave. It seems stupid, and it probably is, but I just keep thinking that maybe it could be true and I may be making a big mistake by leaving. Please help.

CHRISTIANITY! THE SAVIOR OF EUROPE!

http://www.dailystormer.com/us-christian-churches-back-muslim-invasion/

I have a rather long post ahead and have a tl;dr at the bottom, but I'll say here that I'm essentially discussing that I think the discussion here is good, but there should be more of it.

I think that it's clear to everyone that this board is relatively slow. Now, that's not necessarily a bad thing, but I think it would be good to see more discussion here - to have more potential for good ideas, information and reading material to be shared, to have more potential to get things done (online and perhaps even offline events, making images/articles/videos/podcasts etc. which advance our cause), and in general to know that there are more of "us" and as such I'd like to discuss the possibility of getting some more like-minded people in here.

That said, I think it's worth considering what I really mean by "us". I think the 8chan /asatru/ community is small because it's the overlapping of already obscure circles of an imaginary Venn diagram. We are Germanic polytheists, which immediately is not a "mainstream" designation. Furthermore, we are almost at or near the folkish end of the folkish-universalist spectrum (perhaps further discussion of this split, and the distinction of "tribalist" as an aside from these two designations, might be useful but for now the "Jarnsaxa scale" described at http://lavrans.tripod.com/20scale.html should suffice with 1 representing the extreme of universalism and 6 the extreme of folkish thought). I don't know exactly what the result would be if we surveyed every Germanic polytheist worldwide; I honestly might not be surprised to find the majority lying in either half of the spectrum, but I feel comfortable in saying that our level of "folkishness" is clearly not representative of a large majority, if a majority at all (indeed, I would say we're likely a minority, though not necessarily a small one). This "circle" of "folkish" within the circle of "Germanic polytheist" has to overlap with the circle of "user of *chan sites other than 4chan" (again, I've no stats to hand but I'm sure it's a small circle we're looking at here) within the circle of "person who uses the internet for much other than facebook and porn".

Pagan Movies General

Mead

Like the page if you've got ZOGbook bruhfams

https://www.facebook.com/larpypaganmemes/

Guan Sheng Di Jun

What does /asatru/ think about Lord Guan?

What are people from non-Nordic backgrounds supposed to do in terms of their paganism? I am an Italian, therefore my people believed in the Roman pantheon of gods. To my knowledge, not that much survived in terms of customs, or at least it has always been buried out of my view.

The few pagans I do see scattered about this website are always, without fail, Nordic pagans. I have never seen an pagan dabbling in Jupiter, Saturn, etc. Am I just ignorant to what is out there or is it true that Cuckstianity has really taken out my people's faith?

So I was an atheist, and a christian before, and it should be obvious why I am here. I need help learning how to become pagan. I can't say I believe in gods, but I think of them as laws of nature personified, without a will. This is probably wrong, but I have been a fedora for too long. Most of my ancestors are from Northern Germany/Denmark area, or England. I have found websites but so much of it is sjw, magical shit, or website which supports mutts, or non-European pagans. Any real websites I find have basically the exact same stuff in the sticky (word for word in some cases). I would like to know more about your gods, and goddesses, and how to practice asatru, before I make a decision. So help would be appreciated.

A graphic like this is something that we've been needing for awhile, so I took a stab at it.

Feel free to modify, expand, etc.

Beard thread

Who else /growingproperbeard/ here?

Mine is coming along nicely along the entire face. What do the Eddas and sagas say about manly beards, will the gods favour those germanics more who grow beards? Also how do asatruar ladies respond to beards? Let us discuss

i guess you guys would find this entertaining. perhaps a way to get children interested in the old ways?

https://vimeo.com/18011143

>picture unrelated

Art Thread

"Asatru" art, form the past and the present. Scanned physical works, digitally produced, runes, symbols, gods, every theme under the sphere.

Macbeth

Macbeth 2015 is out on torrent. I think /asatru/ might like it since it's medieval, has pagan themes, great dialogue and some decent action.

Also the cast is all hwhite, no diversity quotas here. Sure it has some Christian symbolism but the main characters seem to call upon Satan and Witches more than the christian god anyway.

Asatru villages

Why aren't there self reliant asatru villages? If the Amish can do it so can we, plus we have weapons and mustaches.

The problem of LARPing

Pagan tribes in the 21st century - Wolves among the ruins

Book Of Asatru

GET OFF YOUR LAZY ARSES HEATHENS CAUSE IVE GOT A PROJECT FOR YOU

In related thread >5040 we decided that, to truly establish our faith in a way that it can compete with the Semitic ones, we should compose a book made up from all of the most spiritually important parts of Germanic history. It should weave together history, worldview, myth and conduct into one book. What we are proposing is not a mere intro guide to Asatru but a massive tome, taking up every little piece of lore we can find.

We are not proposing that this become our sacred text to be forced into every temple nor do we claim it to be a Heathen Bible. It will simply be the recorded myths and history of the Germanic tribes, something that can easily be made into a standardized book that can be widely distributed. We have also proposed that art be included in the pages, if any drawfags would be willing to help

Texts that are proposed to be added

Heimskringla

Prose Edda (needs editing)

Poetic Edda

Song of the Sun (needs editing)

Jomviking Saga

Parts of the Nibelungenleid

Select quotes from Tactitus Germania

Niflung Saga

Select stories from the Brothers Grimm, can be edited to have more Heathen tone

Collection of folk songs and war chants

The Berg Dwellers Song

The Dream of the Rood (should be edited to have heathen imagery)

Pow-Wow medicine [not Indjun pow-wow, I mean the stuff used by amish] (needs to be edited for heathen use)

The Rune Poems (Anglo saxon, Icelandic and Nordic)

Pages to illustrate the runes and explain some of their deeper meanings

Collections of prayers, songs and chants

Rules regarding shrines

Volsung Saga

Beowulf

Song of Roland

History of the Goths (and as many other tribes as we can include, of course it will have to be edited down)

If anyone can think of more books or sources to use, please post suggestions. Debate about what books should be included. Edit the more Christian ones without detracting from their original tone.

This is a big project I'm proposing but something I think could really do a lot of good for the Asatru community in terms of spreading the old ways and educating the faithful

Any other suggestions on what to do will be appreciated

>tl;dr dump your lore here, anything you find no matter how obscure

Resurrecting this board

So now that Next is no longer a thing, it looks like we're just watching the board descend into nothingness. Let's try to restart things with a discussion: what are your Asatru-related plans for this year?

I'm planning on doing my first rune casting soon and building a decent altar.

Hotwheels let me post

Remote Viewing, Viking Style

I was doing experiments with divination, random number generators, and gematria which led me to a couple of new sites including this one:

http://www.viking-z.org/index.htm

I have been reading it for a few days. It is interesting to me, a little messy and raw, and not perfect but the man has written a lot and I find some of what he says corresponds with my own experiences and knowledge. It's not good enough for me to recommend to anyone actually wanting to learn stuff but for the experienced and discerning occultist who can pick out the misinformation and get past the odd use of language you may find it intriguing.

I have been primarily interested in what he has had to say about telepathy. I plan on doing my own write up on the matter, I guarantee though I will be much clearer and easy to understand than this guy.

>Ancient Celtic Religion

When thinking of Celtic religion, the first thing that comes to ones mind is generally Druidism, and maybe even Stonehenge. There were many other components to religion in Celtic society before the Common Era, and they were integrated within the daily life, and still remain part of the culture. The sources available are mostly second hand or legends that have become christianised over time, but we can still learn a lot about their beliefs, and how they were intertwined with daily life.

The people who lived 25,000 years ago were in awe of nature. They believed that each aspect of nature, such as rain, rivers; thunder and all other natural evens were personified with their own “deity”. This assigning of Gods to naturally occurring events is called “Animism”. The ancient people believed that a God controlled the rain, a different God controlled the wind and most importantly, a God controlled the hunt. Archaeological evidence suggests our ancestors made use of what is called “sympathetic” magick. To have a successful hunt, the tribe would make a life-like version of the animal they hoped to kill, and would act out the hunt. They believed that this would positively affect the real hunt. Among animism and sympathetic magick, there was also a Goddess of fertility.

There was a high mortality rate and to procreate, the fertility of women and men was extremely important. The Goddess represented childbearing, fertility of people, the earth and animals, and She was as important as the other Gods were.

http://renegadetribune.com/ancient-celtic-religion/

Does praying work?

How /fit/ should a pagan be and is National Socialism compatible with asatru/paganism?

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35344663

Daily reminder that if you're from an English speaking country, there is really no point in following Norse/Germanic paganism. you're more genetically Celtic than anything else.

Asatrupilling Myself

Will I be /asatru/pilled after listening to all of these?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZvGjorLWlI&list=PLG8klsjxFY-MqM0Vr9W-oKLZfnIJJYZ-S

ASATRU WALLPAPER THREAD

Post your best Asatru wallpapers.

Please make sure they're high resolution.

Against The Neopagans

http://www.amerika.org/texts/against-the-neo-pagans-julius-evola/

Does this describe you personally?

Dead board.

Is ear pointing allowed in Asatru?

Considering elves basically come from Nordic mythology, how would ear pointing be seen from a heathen standpoint?

stupid fuck Josh failed

so Infinity Next is kill and Dud is trying to dump 8chan

suggestions?

>Josh = pic-related

False Consensus Trolling

Board Owner, I know the perpetual miscegenation promotion D&C thread stimulates post activity and so on, but it's time to do something about it.

An Asatruar does NOT promote miscegenation – to say a mutt can be an Asatruar is to say that he's white and can (therefore) feel free to race mix with a whiter woman than he is to breed back into the fold. Whether or not this is impossible is irrelevant, because it's promoting race mixing. This is the unavoidable logical conclusion of the race-mixing threads. You can see them promoting this as – laughably – 'eugenics' in the thread right now.

I promote /asatru/ on other boards and try to bring more people here because I know there are tons more pagans than post on this board. People have outright said to me that THIS issue is the one that drove them away from the board, which seems to have been going on for quite some time since I started posting here last month.

My solution is not to ban cuck speech; I value less hotpocketeering over more. All that is necessary is a strong, authoritative open and shut statement that mutts cannot be asatruars in the sticky. Something everyone can point the cucks to and say 'look, your views do not belong here. Shape up or start your own board.'

The simple moral authority of that is plenty to cut down on these foot-in-the-door tactics. It's nice to have the christcucks bumping up our PPH and UIDs but not if their trolling becomes 90% of all board activity and it drives people away.

P-posting on a dead board. Wish this had survived. Seems like this whole website is just /v/, /b/, and /pol/. Fuck.

Well, at least this thread will probably be around for a couple years, even if no-one responds to it.

t. Racially aware Germanic neo-pagan, or Asatruar, who is sad that this board died.

Buying Horse

A truce to end /christian/ (from /atheism/ with love)

http://8ch.net/atheism/res/576.html#q10693

Since /christian/ is trying to dominate /pol/, i would like to request a truce between /atheism/ and /asatru/, to face the common enemy and cast them out.

Pic not related.

The Homeland

As someone who has never been west of Utah, East of Missouri, North of Dakota, or South of Texas, I want to see the land I so fondly talk about; Europe.

The problem is, it's full of leftists and shitskin invaders. I'm sure the majority of /asatru/ has this concern, so let's talk about it. What should we do? Wait for a nationalist uprising? Wait for the complete economic collapse? In these cases how are we supposed to travel there?

Visited by Odin?

I was walking on a trail pretty far back in the big south fork national park, and I was approached by an old man in a grey jacket with the hood up. While he was still about 45 feet away I saw him bend down and pick something up. As we got closer he said to me "I love this park, the trees are very nice." This is the point I noticed he only had one eye, he looked up at the trees and I saw that his right eye was glass, and didn't move. I told him that I liked the park as well, and that the trees were very nice. He started to take a step and stopped, he gave me a stone (what I'm assuming he picked up) and told me to keep it. This is the stone in the picture. Was I visited by Odin?

Martin Heidegger Asatru Reception

What is your opinion on Martin Heidegger and his spiritual world view /asatru/?

I've been trying to get into his work and determine whether he's more christian or pagan overall, he seems to have mixed the two together to the point where you couldn't even tell them apart anymore, a kind of extreme eurocentric pro-white reaffirming henotheism if you will

Also asatru philosophers general?

I've got two Amerindian great-great grandparents and it shows in my face if you know what to look for, should I be Asatru or not?

Pic related, I look like him but less swarthy and more neanderthalish. I was born blonde but it became fully black by adulthood.

Why do you worship mere mortal men, who bleed, eat and breathe? Do you not know the eternal Ahura Mazda, who is not so weak to have let himself be swallowed whole by a common dog? The Prophet Zarathushtra knew Mazda, and he took it upon himself to shape and mold the faith of all the known world, so that they may not be cast with Angra Mainyu, the Dark Spirit, into the fire. Mazda spoke through Zarathushtra, and gifted man with the Avesta and other texts. Come home, Indo-Aryan men! The glory of the true God, Ahura Mazda, is endless, he shall kill the wicked soul, separate the good and the evil, and end the tyranny of "YaHoVaH"!

>Stephen McNallen: Metagenetics – An Update

Ancestry matters. Most Asatruar will agree with that statement, but fewer will understand that the ancestors are with us, now and always, because of the time-transcending nature of the metagenetic bond. To the extent that rebirth occurs within the family line, we are those ancestors, manifested again in Midgard! Furthermore, that bond is special – it is closer than our bond to non-ancestors.

We are not “one.” Although there is a level on which every person is connected through the collective unconscious of humanity as a whole, the closeness of the connections varies immensely. Indeed, to some extent we are linked to all life – but that hardly causes us to value protozoa, goldfish, and camels as much as we do our brother or our father! The degree of connection is determined by similarity.

Continued at http://renegadetribune.com/stephen-mcnallen-metagenetics-an-update/

What are y'all planning on doing for Yuletide?

Yuletime starts sunset on the 22nd this year, and is of course the longest night of the year for the NH, and it lasts twelve days.

My plans are hobby based, rather than being solidified into traditions of their own rights.

First, I will do astronomy on the night of the solstice. I always bake something sweet on my holidays, but I also intend to make some savory meals based on meats I've never eaten like Duck, Lamb, and Cabrito. I will be putting the most effort into the 24 hour period between the solstice sunset and the following sunset, so effectively two days of celebration there.

I would like to take up archery & archery hunting this year, a plan to go on a hunt on the final days of Yule, which will constitute a lot of effort as well. Many hours and quite possibly an unsuccessful hunt or else even more work in preparing my prey for a meal.

Filling up the intervening time with meaningful tradition is a challenge, though. We have a Yule Moon which happens to fall on the 25th this year, but I have mixed feelings about putting in a lot of effort on the christcuck high holiday. But on the other hand you can't just surrender part of Yuletime to them.

Any one else working on some dank traditions? I think a challenge for most pagans is that we don't live in communities of other pagans with whom to share our traditions so our religious activities take on a reclusive and private nature which should be fought against. Let's light up the season of darkness by sharing our traditions with each other.

Happy Yuletide!

When i was younger my mother used to take me to some (i think asatru, definitely some kind of norse) bonfires as part of her faith. Now i never really believed in that stuff and she never tried to force it on me, but i feel like i missed out in life on the opportunity to rebel against the religion of my parents.

Christianity has satanism and the like, but how could i be an edgy anti-asatru? Worshipping surtr? I basically want to do a stupid practical joke to my parents whilst I'm visiting them about having adopted the opposite religion of theirs.

Well, my grandmother who was orphaned just found out that she's genetically a Sephardic Jew

>The White Race is Baldr (We are the shining one)

> We are the sacrifice of Ragnarok

>We are fated to die from this world, and this will be the beginning of the end of this dark age

>From our death will come much strife.

>Somehow we will return - once again as Gods

>We shall reclaim our rightful place as leaders of a new Golden Age.

It is ok to feel sadness at this message. But you must remember their is hope here as well. By knowing it is your destiny to die and be reborn, you are now free to fight with a ferocity unseen in modern times.

Perkwunos

Gods of Modern Life

Since it is an ancient Pagan tradition, Asatru tends to focus on our Gods' connections to nature, which completely makes sense. But I can't imagine the Gods have fortified themselves in the forests, and that there is absolutely no connection between them and the facets of modern life.

So who is the God of Electricity? Nuclear Power? Computers and The Internet? Surely the ancient Gods have fields that overlap with these parts of modern day life. Or does anyone think that new Gods/Goddesses are needed for these? Or is there good reason the Gods stay away from these?

What do you think?

Red Ice Yule Special - Myths & Forgotten Traditions of the Winter Solstice

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2015/12/RIR-151218.php (The intro ends at 11:14)

Also a new Insight episode from Red Ice Creations:

Insight - The True Origins of Kwanzaa, Hanukkah & Christmas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUDT1L2Iy9I

http://www.redicecreations.com/TV/2015/Insight-Origins-Kwanzaa-Hanukkah-Christmas.php

In the multicultural west we are told to say Happy Kwanzaa, Happy Hanukkah and Merry Christmas or these days Happy Holidays as to not offend others. Lana tells about the true origins of newcomer holidays such as Kwanzaa and Hanukkah. Where did these holidays originate? Are they original? Why are they also in December, like Christmas? She'll also talk about the true origins of Christmas, which is entirely borrowed from Yule, the pre-Christian European celebration of the Winter Solstice in the Northern Hemisphere. Kwanzaa, Hanukkah and Christmas are all imposters, culturally appropriating from the ancient European Winter Solstice celebration. Learn about the myth, symbolism and tradition of Yule.

Red Ice Yule Special - Myths & Forgotten Traditions of the Winter Solstice

In this special Yuletide episode, most of the Red Ice crew – Henrik, Lana, John and Melanie (we missed you, Fredrik!) –joins together to discuss the significance of the winter holiday season today and what this important time of year meant to our ancestors. We talk about our childhood memories of Christmas and family teachings, or lack thereof, of pre-Christian traditions surrounding the winter solstice and return of the sun. Henrik describes the ancient Norse pagan ritual, the Blót, which included sacrificial offerings at Uppsala to the gods Odin and Freya, and Lana tells the mythical story of the Wild Hunt, with the flying 8-legged horse, Sleipnir. We get into the legend of Krampus, the shamanic aspects of Santa Claus, the significance of the colors of Yule, the burning of the Yule log, and other symbols central to survival. We receive a history lesson on the origins of Kwanza and Hanukkah, and we look at how Christmas has been culturally appropriated and manufactured into celebrations that hijack the ancient energy of northern European solar traditions. Then, we discuss how Hanukkah has taken center stage at the White House and we listen to a clip from Obama’s big liberal propaganda party that included PC holiday blessings from Susan Talve, a Rabbi from the Central Reform Congregation in St. Louis. Our conversation rounds off with thoughts on the importance of storytelling and practicing rituals, along with rediscovering and honoring the ancient Norse essence of generosity and clan loyalty.

Relevant link:

The Real Yule Story, The Northern Shaman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVCFF6NUq2U

David Lane’s Lecture on Wotanism

http://renegadetribune.com/david-lanes-lecture-on-wotanism/

Space travel

Deyr fé deyja frændur,

deyr sjálfur ið sama;

en orðstír

deyr aldregi

hveim er sér góðan getur.

Deyr fé,

deyja frændur,

deyr sjálfur ið sama.

Ég veit einn,

að aldrei deyr;

dómur um dauðan hvern.

Cattle die, kindred die,

Every man is mortal:

But the good name never dies

Of one who has done well.

Cattle die, kindred die,

Every man is mortal:

But I know one thing that never dies,

The glory of the great dead.

So, /asatru/ is going to mars one of the best things to do for the volk? Obviously colonizing it is unnecessary, but would it not give you the same fame and honour of your blood as Vinland did to Lief Eriksson?

Tell me why anyone needs to venerate any other than these three Dir, /asatru/.

Freyja/Juno/Luna – Dir of ,,Love'' – Focus: Luna (“The Moon”)

Idealized femininity, Feminine loyalty, Dignified submission

Family, Motherly protection, Desperate ferocity, Defensive war

Devoted love, Jealous love, Selfless love, Fierce love

Hoenir – Dir of ,,Patience'' – Focus: An hourglass

Intelligence, reason, innovation, mind over matter, slow incremental scientific methodology, invention to overcome insurmountable problems

Stealth, Stalking, Darkness, Silence, Guerilla warfare, Fighting dirty against evil

Building advantages in conflict through planning, patience, and prudence

Introspective contemplation, consideration, mindfulness, meditation, peace

Thor – Dir of ,,Brotherhood'' – Focus: A mjulnir (“A hammer”)

Brotherhood, Friendship, Masculine loyalty, Leadership, Respect

Strength, Combat, Willpower, Bravery, Victory, Idealized Masculinity

Reciprocity, Honor, Honesty, Authenticity

What does Odin bring to the table that Hoenir and Thor together don't do better? What inspires you to venerate the wise traveller?

A message from Thor...

>I was camping the other night and got a drunk.

>I dozed off a bit near the fire

>Woke up suddenly and there's a dude leaning on a tree.

>red beard, kinda built

>jumped up and he was gone in flash

>spooked the shit out of me & started looking around frantically.

>grab my camp hatchet for protection.

>a little time goes by and nothing much else happens

>get this urge to write

>grab my notebook from my pack

>write this:

"Thus the Thunderer spoke:

"Long have I been with you, my people.

Long have I been your protector - your guardian.

I have given you strength and spirit to forge on during

the harshest of times and in the most severe of circumstances.

Even when you turned your backs on me to follow a weak martyr-god so that

that you might 'inherit the earth', I watched over you and granted my

strength to you. Because you are my people, I did not turn my back

on you.

When the barbarians and desert riders were at your gates it was I

that stood alongside you. And together we repelled that force.

But of late your conduct has been such that I can no longer recognize

you as the folk who once stood so proud in battle. You no longer

respect any god - nor do you seem to respect yourselves.

Your men act as women and cowards - weeping with fear and shame. Too

afraid have you become stand up for yourselves that, once again, barbarians are

at your gates yet you do nothing. You allow your women to be raped and you kill your

own children because it is the easy path.

I no longer know you and you know longer know yourselves.

I am calling to you, Men of the West, to tell you to remember me. Know that I am The Oak. I am The Mountain.

I am The Thunder and the Lightening - I am The Storm. I make that which is barren fruitful and I punish those

that would do evil. When you come to know me, you may begin to remember yourselves.

I am Thunor and you once were my people.

One day, you may be my people once again. "

I really do feel that Thor was speaking through me. The words just kept coming. Almost like automatic writing. After I finished writing I poured out one of my beers into the fire, thanked him, and went to bed.

Believe me or not, it's up to you.

Well this is more of a question about Norse culture than religion but could be very related.

What is the language associated with the FU(TH)ARK ?

Here's a poster for you, /asatru/

Shared folk awareness astrally induced into our blood - Is it possible?

Hereditary remembering (also: hereditary memory or heritage awakening, german Erb-Erinnern) is a conceptualization of Ariosophy marked by Guido von List and describes the biologically inherited collective memory of our ancestors since the proto-germanics.

The concept of hereditary memory has some loose resemblances to that of reincarnation, but the followers of the latter instead believe in memories from a past, repeated life - Contrast this with hereditary memory which rather sees these metaphysical flashbacks as memories or consciousness rooted in the inherited experiences of the ancestors, contained within our DNA itself.

Opposing Views Thread: “The Truth About Asatru”

Hail Germania!

Pagan Prepping Thread

Norse Pagan Prayers General

Significance of full moons?

As we know according to the Gregorian calendar all our high festivals fall on the Twenty first of every month. However, the full moon usually takes place around the Twenty fourth. Is there some connection that has been thrown off by our modern calendars or is the full moon just important to wiccan garbage.

Return of the Immortals

What is your resonance? The path to Asgard/ Immortality is a process of density, from the least vital, slow waveform to the most vital, fast waveform. Are the different worlds different frequencies? Higher energetic states are beyond the slower. There appears to be a conspiracy to suppress this vitality, maintaining a domesticated human lacking subtle and higher sensitivity to greater realities and awareness – an attempt to disengage us from the Super Natural and integrate us into the artificial machine world.

Light is Consciousness. The greater the vibration, the greater the capacity for information.

There may be a point where human physiology is so purified and adapted one can absorb sunlight directly. Mystics have transcended through this process (with meditations and energy practices).

http://renegadetribune.com/10000-suns-return-immortals/

>The Celto-Germanic Tree Horoscope

Celtic tree astrology is based on the ancient idea that the time of our births is pivotal to the formation of our personality and behavior.

The spiritually savvy Celts, particularly the druids were expert observers. Over time, they recognized that a child born within a certain season would develop certain qualities. Further, the druids observed patterns in the color and shape of a person's life according to the motions of the moon (their calendar being based on a lunar year) and the season in which we are born.

The system of Celtic tree astrology was developed out of a natural connection with the druid's knowledge of earth cycles and their reverence for the sacred knowledge held by trees. The druids had a profound connection with trees and believed they were vessels of infinite wisdom.

Carrying this concept a step forward, we can associate the likeness and personality of trees to our own human nature.

By doing so, we gather inspired insight and clarity into who we are.

what the fuck do we do about the brythons? their native religion has been almost completely wiped out, not only by christianity, but by the romans also. should they adopt gaelic religion, as west germanics adopt north germanic religion?

>Ignatius Donnelly: The God Odin, Woden, or Wotan

http://renegadetribune.com/ignatius-donnelly-the-god-odin-woden-or-wotan/

The Golden One. Name a more glorious person then him

>pagan

>nationalist

>anti-degeneracy

>lifts

>plays heathen games

>blonde-hair

>listens to metal

>How To Forge A Viking Axe

http://www.instructables.com/id/Forging-a-Viking-Axe/?ALLSTEPS

Winterchan

Thought you guys might want to hear this.

/pol/ is trying to create ebolachan 2.0 by calling on the old gods for a magnificent winter which will wipe out the shitskins.

What do you think?

What are your thoughts on Putin the Great?

Have we reached the eddaic age of the wolf yet? Is Ragnarök drawing close?

>Brothers shall fight | and fell each other,

>And sisters' sons | shall kinship stain;

>Hard is it on earth, | with mighty whoredom;

>Axe-time, sword-time, | shields are sundered,

>Wind-time, wolf-time, | ere the world falls;

>Nor ever shall men | each other spare.

Let us discuss ITT

Halloween

An unexpected experience relating to the Norse Gods.

THE DAGDA

The father god and ruler of the Tuatha Dé Danann. Perhaps the most important of all the Celtic deities, Dagda (sometimes referred to as ‘The Dagda’) was worshiped by the Celts as the god of magic, wisdom, and fertility.

Dagda’s many fine possessions indicate the array of his talents. His magical club could kill with a strike from one side and restore life with a blow from the other. The weapon was so big that it could injure more than one man at a time, and Dagda had to drag it behind him on two wheels.

His cauldron could provide an endless supply of food for the gods. His fruit trees were always ready to harvest. Of his two swine, one was always roasting upon a spit while the other was always alive.

His harp could summon the seasons.

In various stories, Dagda is named as the son, the father, and sometimes the husband of the mother goddess Danu. His wife is usually given as Bóand. He also mates with Mórrígan at the start of the new year. His many children include Angus Óg, Bodb Derg, Brigit, and Midir.

Dagda killed many Fomorians in the second battle of Mag Tuired. But this battle ended his career, for he was killed there by Caitlín, wife of the Fomorian leader Balor.

In the middle of the second battle of Mag Tuired, the Fomorians and the Tuatha Dé Danann called a truce. The fighting halted for a short time, but neither side let its guard down. The Fomorians kept themselves busy looking for ways to gain the advantage over their adversaries. They thought that if they could distract the great father god, they might be able to win the battle. They also knew that Dagda had a weakness for porridge, his favorite food, so they decided to concoct a porridge of superhuman proportions.

The Fomorians began by digging a massive crater in the earth. They poured in enough milk to satisfy an entire village for one year. Then they added enough fat to supply an entire kingdom for two years. Next they added enough meal to feed every man, woman, and child in an entire province for three years. Then, for good measure, they threw in a flock of sheep, a herd of goats, and a passel of pigs.

The Fomorians challenged and taunted Dagda to eat the porridge or die. Dagda leaned over the great crater in the ground and sniffed at the mixture of ingredients. He put one giant finger into the mess and tasted it. To the amazement of the Fomorians, Dagda ate the entire huge crater of porridge. Feeling tired after such a big meal, Dagda lay down under a tree for a nap.

The Fomorians, annoyed that their plot had failed, devised a backup plan. They called for a woman to tempt the Dagda. If he mated with her, he would die. The Fomorians hid behind trees to see what would happen. Dagda woke briefly to see a young maiden lying beside him. Although he noticed that she was very pretty, he was still sleepy and satisfied from his meal, so he rolled over and went back to sleep. The Fomorians were foiled again.

Happy Samhain!

How will you be observing this time of the year fellow heathens?

Runic Sex Postures of the Anglo-Saxon Futhorc

THIS exciting new volume examines the thirty-three runes of the Anglo-Saxon Futhorc and seeks to incorporate them within a new and original system of sexual magick. Designed to encourage methods of strict discipline and self-control, the purpose of Troy Southgate's unique commentary is to use the symbolism and magickal correspondences of each rune to create a ritualistic and meditative environment for the facilitation of magickal activity. Whilst most sexual behaviour inevitably appeals to the senses and the emotions, the runic sex postures of the Anglo-Saxon Futhorc are designed, ultimately, to completely transcend both mind and body. Lavishly illustrated by the talented Polish artist, Zbigniew Bogusławski, who spent months working on each of the designs, the methodology and practicalities of this radical new system have finally been brought to life. With detailed information about each posture, its meaning and application, this work will appeal to occultists, magicians and heathens alike and represents a valuable contribution to the field of Indo-European spirituality.

The Solar Storm: Seana Fenner

November 1, 2015

http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/the-solar-storm-seana-fenner-11-1-15/

Kyle speaks to Seana Fenner of Odinia International. They discuss the importance of our ancestors, communion with the dead, connecting with the gods, the possibility of reincarnation, the role of Ragnarok, Seana’s recent articles at VikingAlthing.org, and much more.

The links http://odinia.org/ http://vikingalthing.org/article/

Masculine Homosexuality

What do you anons think of traditional homosexuality, as practiced by the Germanic tribes and other Aryan pagans? Obviously I don't mean the submissive faggotry that is common nowadays, but the kind where real men express their dominance on the weak and unmanly. In my experience I've never passed up a chance to dominate these sissies into submission. If they like it then I make them bleed from their asses, and in some instances I've kicked their teeth in. I like to remind them how they would be thrown into bogs if they lived in a pagan world. Know what I'm saying?

Celt General #1

Post anything ITT pertaining to Gaelic, Gaulish or Brythonic paganism.

Hello my fellow aryans, did you worship your god Odin today?

Marvel cucks it again

>Pic related

Someone wake me up already.

The inevitable resurgence of European Paganism

Is anyone else looking at this invasion of Europe that's happening right now and coming to the conclusion that the widespread resurgence of some form of European Paganism is all but inevitable at this point?

The flood of Muslims is seemingly endless, their murdering and raping is beginning to spread outside of the shelters as they seem to be tired of raping their own women and now attacks on Europeans are becoming increasingly common, white Europeans are finally starting to wake up in large numbers and every day more and more people are becoming enraged over this insanity, and we have gone well past the point that this could be ended peacefully and massive amounts of violence is now unavoidable.

As for how this relates to religion and spirituality though, it just seems to me that some form of European Paganism is the only likely result of all of this. Humans need spirituality and without it we descend into the same abyss of nihilism and apathetic hedonism that large parts of Europe have already been in for several decades now, so Europe will need some kind of spirituality that the people can rally around as the violence begins and chaos erupts throughout Europe. I don't see any trend towards a Christian revival that would make me think that Christianity will be the choice of Europeans outside of maybe Southern and Eastern Europe. Christianity is just rotting right now, and even Christians will admit this if they're honest. Christianity is on life support in the rest of Europe and when it is practiced then it's practiced in such a watered down and meaningless way, so it seems impossible to me that most of Europe will rally around Christianity as a spiritual source of strength in the coming conflict.

If we look at the present trend amongst Western European nationalists though then it can be argued that a kind of primal and subconscious form of European Paganism is already being practiced. If you look at the symbols that they're using, the artwork that they admire, and the heroes and figures that inspire them then almost all of it is pagan. You might see a crusader painting here and there, but that's definitely in the minority compared to the amount of people who are connecting to their identity as a white European through symbols and images that are directly connected to European Paganism.

It makes perfect sense that this would be what caused the resurgence because if people are willing to fight and die to stop this invasion of Muslims then what is it that they're willing to die for? They will be fighting and dying for Europe and that in and of itself is a form of spirituality. The conflict that we're facing calls for an ethnically based spirituality because the whole point of this fight is to fight for the survival of Europe and white Europeans. Christianity is useless for this purpose and the amount of mental gymnastics that you would need to do to twist Christianity into an ethnic religion of any kind is just ridiculous.

When you consider the need that is within humans for some kind of spirituality, the present withering away of Christianity, and the unique circumstances of the invasion that practically demands for an ethnic spirituality, then a resurgence of European Paganism in some form seems to be inevitable to me.

I'm new to paganism and this board, can someone give me a rundown of this board, like its versions of pagansim and maybe politcal beliefs.

It seems pretty close to my views so far.

anyone here have any experience with the brotherhood of Odin?

Who isn't Pagan

People who can't be Pagan-Asatru by default:

>Obese people

>Mudpeople / shitskins

>People who can't speak a European language besides English

>People whose parents/grandparents weren't born in Europe

>Atheists

>virgins over 25 (unless they are practicing Druids and celibate for life)

what else?

the gist of /asatru/

Asatru as a Living Tradition

A thoughtful post by Collin Cleary over at Counter-Currents:

http://www.counter-currents.com/2015/10/asatru-as-a-living-tradition/

Hey don't you have to die a warrior's death or else you go to Hel?

How do you all intend to go out?

I bought two axes and I am going to get a hunting permit and go on a berserking rampage and fight bears in the forest till one gets me and I die with my axes crossed across my chest lying peacefully in the forest

Is that enough to get me to Sovngarde?

Neopaganism, "New Right" = Small-Time Ball-less

Karl Lowith says at one point that neopaganism is exoteric Nietzscheanism. But he says this about the neopaganism of his time; it's enough to say, in ours it's become a form of cosplay/LARPing done by genetic defectives like Kurtagic, the altright crowd, and their analogues in Europe. But it's worse than this, it's a form of surrender of European identity, likely designed by people with a preponderance of pre-Aryan blood.

Aeneas on his travels as described by Virgil comes upon a small colony of Trojans. They've decided to live in obscurity and perpetuate the Trojan way of life in peace; he mocks them for their lack of spirit, their provincialism, grounded in fear of the Greeks, who they don't want to challenge, and in abandonment of great imperial ambitions. They are a parody of Troy become theme-park…the desire also of the modern WN, the "neopagans," who poster Petr from the Phora described as cleaving rather more closely to pre-Aryan forms of life. The small village, the supremacy of village community, veneration of their women, extreme localism, and other such things, the life of small-souled peasants. Not the piratical, ranging and conquering drive of the Aryan or his descendants.

Gobineau showed the tragic fate of all superior races: imperialism, expansion is built into them, as much extreme localism, "neopagan" obscurantism, is built into inferior races who have no curiosity about the outside world or ability to rule it. As the superior race expands, however, it will necessarily incorporate inferior blood on its periphery; during times of decadence racial mixing will occur, which leads to end of the strength of the kingly blood and to the end of civilization, until a cycle will renew itself. There is no way around this, and the superior race can't abandon its drive to rule.

Universal religions like Islam and Christianity are expressions of Arab and European supremacy, respectively (see Ephraim Karsh's book among others for very clear evidence that Islam is nothing but Arab imperialism). The problem is that in the long run the inner teaching gradually takes hold, and so, at least in the case of Christianity, its original and corrosive morality eventually overtakes and cancels out the 1000-year-long process of "taming" undertaken by the Romans and their heirs in Europe. Thus a Semitic slave creed is gradually tamed and used by aristocratic Europe as a means of universal rule–the age of exploration and colonization is inseparable from Christian faith–but, in the long run, the pure or inner teaching begins for various reasons to overcome this taming, and Christianity leads to the breeding of the modern man, the small bug-man. This bug-man rejects traditional Christianity in two ways. He swings between rejecting its hierarchy and spiritual mystery in favor of its "secularized" and universal moral teaching (egalitarianism, feminism, compassion, being small-souled, utilitarianism, English-ism) which appeals to his base spirit; and rejecting its imperial and universal qualities, in which case he will embrace ethnonationalist, parochial "neopaganism."

Nietzsche's "neopaganism" is of an entirely different kind; he is much concerned with the basis for an alternative universal, imperial culture, the culture of man as such. That is, he realized that in the abandonment of Christianity, which was inevitable, Europe was in danger of abandoning also the one creed and faith that was a vehicle for greatness of European blood in the world, its world-conquering and piratical drives. The modern "neopagans" by contrast leave this behind and embrace small-time parochialism, revealing their base pre-Aryan blood. And to think they want to be "left alone" in the name of racial purity, when they themselves are a confusion of blood and of drives, within whom the ancient matriarchal aborigine takes hold!

Question:

Why is it important to follow the same religion as your family did ~1000-1400 years ago? Generally speaking, ideas, philosophy, religion, science and technology develop over time. Also why do you choose this point? many more of your ancestors would have practiced animism. why not that?

Cucked anti-racist SJW wiccan larping libtard anti-white pseudo-asatruar blogger attacks AFA for being "racist"

"We’ve been smelling the racist stench from McNallen for years, but every time we’ve probed our local heathen communities for comments or insights, we’ve met with nothing but brick walls. Circle Ansuz, an anti-fascist heathen collective [SIC!] who’s been the perennial foe of the idiotic “bay area national anarchists,” has written a fantastic piece that truly demolishes the mythology around McNallen. As you’ll find out, McNallen isn’t a quaint “racialist” who thinks that different races can live peacefully separate from each other, he quite literally believes that the souls of different races are as incompatible as an Allen wrench to a flat-head screw. Oh, and he tagged along with and wrote fawning articles about a mercenary outfit composed of former members of apartheid South Africa’s official government death squad.

ladylibertyslamp.wordpress.com/2013/08/19/stephen-mcnallen-and-racialist-asatru/

Boudica’s Uprising Against the Romans - The Battle of Watling Street

http://renegadetribune.com/boudicas-uprising-romans-part-2-3-battle-watling-street/

Ikke tro at du er no´

Jeg synes det blir feil av folk som ikke har ekte skandinavisk og rent blod å snakke om åsatru. Dere som ikke forstår hva jeg skriver nå, burde heller ikke lurke i noe som ikke er DERES. Vi bør søke våre egene røtter. Vi burde søke til våre røtter og våre gamle religioner, fordi hvis folk som ikke har forfedre som har tilbedt de gamle gudene, så blir det blasfemisk for saken. Hedensk kultur over hele Europa var nydelig helt frem til den stygge ørkenguden kristus ble bragt til våre forfedre og tvunget på oss. Hvis vi alle bare vender oss tilbake til våre egene røtter, kan vi sammen bringe kulturene våre fremover og slå ned disse idiotiske kristne verdiene.

/asatru/'s opinion on psychedelics

What are your opinions on the use of psychedelics to speak with the spiritual?

With Hallows eve coming up, and thus the veil between life and death thinning, I have been thinking about going on a shroom trip. I want to attempt to see the same things and experience the same things that our very distant shamanistic ancestors experienced. Something a la Graham Hancock.

Does anyone have experience with using psychedelics to connect with the Gods, the ancestors or the various spirits in general?

Heathen Harvest Article on Folkish Heathenry

Found this article on Heathen Harvest. It is dated by five months, so old news but worth mentioning (didn't see it anywhere on the catalogue).

It is a response to a sloppily researched article by VICE magazine (aren't they all?) about the "violent racism" prevalent in folkish Asatru painting McNallens group as goosestepping Nazis no different than the Aryan Brotherhood.

Here is the original Vice article (archived to avoid VICE getting shekels): https://archive.is/UQIap

And the Heathen Harvest article: http://heathenharvest.org/2015/05/12/contra-vitium-how-vice-mischaracterized-a-religious-movement/

The Heathen Harvest rebuttal is pretty good as it argues in a moderate way which would garner sympathy from outsiders who may otherwise be turned off by any sort of indigenous European tribalism (couches the argument within the paradigm of multiculturalism and preserving religious minorities).

Germanic Shield Patterns

We all know from the sources that tell us that the Germanic tribes (as well as other barbarian peoples in the north like Celts and Slavs) had elaborate and colorful shield patterns, in order to display their tribal allegiance, rank, or family, or perhaps all three in one.

Unfortunately the reality is that most of these shields are lost because they were made of wood for most of history, and by the time metal shields became common among the Germanic tribes they were becoming increasingly Christian (however do not dismiss that medieval coat of arms and old tribal shield patterns may have a connection)

However we do have a few sources to run off of and one of them I found was an old Roman book that contains pictures of shield patterns used by a Roman mercenary unit of Germans, composed of several different tribes. Each tribal unit has its own shield design that bear great resemblance to the patterns used by the other tribes.

Happy Lief Erikson day!

Wiccatru Faggotry Stories General

Why did Germanics dress like animals?

Ethnic Paganism

I think that ONLY people of (Norwegian, Swedish, Danish, Icelanders, Germans, Austrian, English, Dutch, Afrikaner, Flemish, Frisian, Lowland Scot) descent should be allowed in Germanic Paganism. Do you guys agree?

norse heritage, mixed ethnicity

NORSKK

So, it seems that this particular Scandinavian branch of Ásatrú (NORSKK) is pretty militant about discriminating against their own kin (labeling them racists) just because they have Folkish views/ideas.

I even had one of them tell me that I couldn't practice the faith of my Ancestors because I lived in America and because I was half Anglo-Saxon (other half being Norsk) (also contradicts their earlier statement about Folkish ideas being racist).

I would like to ask my kinsmen here at /asatru what they think of NORSKK; so what will it be?

Thoughts on Ernst Jünger and his views on chivalry (sportsmans-like attitude/behavior in Storm of Steel and name-dropping Ariosto), his figures of the Soldier, the Arbeiter, the Waldgänger, the Anarch and his late conversion to Catholicism in the twilight of his years?

ITT: Post bro-tier Christians

Help Translating

Thought this might be the place to ask for help translating this Latin sundial motto "Omnes vulnerant, ultima necat" (All [hours] wound, the last kills) to Old English. I intend on inscribing it on a wooden clock I'm making (if I ever finish).

I was going to run it through a translator but those rarely do a good job with highly inflected languages let alone a "dead" one.

Two things:

1. What are your opinions toward wolf hunting?

2. This may seem like a weird question but have Jews played any roles in wolf extirpation? For example, Britain and especially Ireland had many wolves but their extermination on those islands went full speed after Cromwell took power, and we all know what Cromwell was about.

Similarly with Charlemagne (the rat credited with helping to spawn the Ashkenazim), under his rule he organised large wolf hunting parties whereas such a thing seems to not have been present among the Germanic tribes before.

Of course, wolves would get in the way by harming farmers' livestock and as Europe's population grew wolves became more of a drain, but still.

James Laffrey has laid his argument for Jews being behind the near total decimation of bison in North America. Could there be something similar to what I've suggested?

ITT Pagan European Traditions

Post all things related to the traditions that were invented by the Pre-Christian Europeans.

>hair covering with a scarf

A Good Idea?

New Gods

So one of the arguments I see here frequently is whether or not people who don't know their blood line or know that they are mutts are welcome in modern Germanic religions. Shit can get real heated in these arguments. To help alleviate some of this I have a proposal of a sorts.

The gods/godesses, like the men/women that worship them, are sexual beings. They like boning just as much as we do. The idea that in the 1000 years or so that not a single new god or demi-god or <insert one of the many god like beings that were worshiped> was born is kind of absurd. For some reason I doubt Odin wears a condom and that Frigg is on the pill.

That means chances are that there are a whole host of gods/goddess that might be looking for followers and a domain to lord over. Of which there are tons of new things and concepts that could use a god or two looking out for them (Firearms, cars, the internet, at some point AI systems, science, technology, the really technologically advanced WMDs we've been using, etc).

Now I also think it is unlikely that all of these new gods are pure blood. If there is one thing I took from reading about the gods is that they don't care who they put their dick in. It is logical that there are 3/4 Jotunn 1/4 Cherokee or some such beings running around.

I propose that we encourage our mutts to seek out and identify the new gods. They probably are the best qualified to do it. A god that is a mutt will probably open up to a mutt first.

Obviously this idea needs polishing. I'm not very good at articulating myself but I think you all understand my meaning.

Look at it this way:

Best case scenario we identify new gods.

Worst case scenario the mixed bloods go on a wild goose chase.

Pic unrelated

>Armanenschaft: The Priesthood of Teutonic Wotanism

http://renegadetribune.com/armanenschaft-the-priesthood-of-teutonic-wotanism/

Blood Harvest Moon

Tonight (27th to 28th) we can witness a super blood moon. A super blood moon is a full moon, as close as possible to earth together with a lunar eclipse which makes the moon shine red. Even more it is also Harvest moon, the full moon closest to the beginning of autumn. This combination will happen again in 595 years, the next "super blood moon" will be in 2033 afaik.

It will be from 4 to 5 am for me. Not sure how it is for the rest for us, so better look it up so you don't miss it!

Do you have any specific plans? Unfortunately it is on short notice for me.

I will probably go for a walk to the spot I held my first blot (if it can be called that) if I am not too spooked and take a beer with me to share it. If I'm in the mood I might spill some of my own blood as it seems very fitting, no idea.

Maybe someone could enlighten us about historical significances?

Share your plans, thoughts and feelings about this please.

More faggotry

http://norskk.com/talk/2015/7/21/homosexuality-in-asatru

When will this fucking end? I do not even want to begin to address what the fuck is wrong with this "article". Also I am blocked from posting on the page that linked it

Freyja, Frigg, the Aesir, and the Vanir

Are Freyja and Frigg the same? It would make a lot of sense, they have very similar characteristics and their husbands are essentially the same deity. Odr and Odinn are almost certainly the same. Their names are in fact the same word, the only difference is Odinn is definite accusative while Odr is indefinite nominative.

If they are the same, what would that mean for the Vanir? I've heard theories that the Vanir weren't actually considered a separate group until right before the conversion to Christianity.

What are your thoughts on this?

Knattleikr, the official sport game of asatru

Should norse heathenry ever become the leading faith of white nations again, should we re-introduce this game here as a national sports pastime?

Kinda like football in contemporary american society but as an asatrufied version instead

What would a Knattleikr stadium look like? What would the Knattleikr version of superbowl be called?

Let's share some dank ideas ITT

http://www.hurstwic.com/history/articles/daily_living/text/knattleikr.htm

Volk Consciousness — Manifestation of Wotan

http://renegadetribune.com/volk-consciousness-manifestation-of-wotan/

It is said that the road to Hel is paved with good intentions. Yet, these same good intentions move many to entrust their destiny to those who are in positions of power. History has proven, time and again, that our trust is quite often dangerously misplaced.

One thing has not changed since our Folk permitted alien culture to reside and rule amongst us: NOT ONCE HAVE OUR GUESTS NOT TRIED TO MANIPULATE US INTO SUBMISSIVE POSITIONS. The methods of such manipulations are unlimited in modern times. No aspect of life escapes harm; economy, religion, social morality, media, science, arts and medicine, political and social activities are all affected.

In nature we shall never find the weak creatures ruling over the strong. We shall never observe the rabbit lording over the wolf. We shall never see the lion bow to the mouse. We shall never see the day when the snake serves the fish. Although they reside in the same world, they live by the Highest Law of Nature: THE PRESERVATION OF ONE’S OWN KIND.

For our folk, the Highest Law of Nature comes down to one thing, our leaders and chieftains should be permitted to rule for only one reason, that they have proven to be great by way of ability and great deeds. When they prove unworthy of ruling a Noble Volk, it is vital that they be replaced.

ITT we invent pro-white greenpilled pagan mantras

I'll start

>They say they are tolerant and universalist. What they really are is anti-Aesir.

>The judeo-christian holy trinity is codeword for anti-Aesir.

>If we defend our native european norse ethnic germanic faith we are being called apostateswhowillburninhellfor6trillionyears. The christians do this to NORSE countries and NORSE countries only. Say NO to forced conversions and christian brainwashing.

Comic Books

How appropriate do you guys consider comic books for your kids? How pagan tier are comics and are they on our side?

Pic related is an old DC character "Wotan", yes, that Wotan. In the comic he is a super-villain who fights superman and uses Satanic powers. Also remember that Superman is supposed to be Jesus and even has an "el" in the end of his name, Hebrew for God. Superman is Judeochristian Zionist nonsense.

Thor from Marvel might seem more appropriate but they still mock our gods and especially recently with turning Thor, the masculine god of fertility and protection, into a woman. Not to mention the Thor movies with Heimdall, the White God, played by a black.

Are there any comics that are pro or at least neutral to Paganism? Hellboy was written by a Catholic and has mostly Catholic themes but it took alot from Pagan lore as well in a positive light.

Here's yet another thread about the hot button issues of this board, race and homosex. I haven't chosen a side so far in the argument over asatru's position on gays or other races.

Can anyone post any real evidence or sources, anything at all, about how our asatru-practicing ancestors felt about other races and gays? Not guessing or assuming bullshit, we need real facts, stories, lore, any real evidence from that time to settle this.

>inb4 tacitus and muh bogs

That's an observation by one roman guy, on one area of Germanic tribes, from one time period. What about the Norse? What about the Viking Age? That's not enough evidence to assume that's the attitude of all of asatru, for all of its many-hundred-year heyday.

A few questions I want to consider when it comes to race and gays:

>Would our ancestors really have refused or scorned marriage with pretty women from other races? I know they rarely got exposed to them at all, so that may never have been answered.

>Did the Vikings raid others because they were another race and thus inferior, or because they were another country? I think their behavior would have been no different if their victims had been the same race as them. Thoughts?

I admit the only lore I've read in full is pic related, the Havamal. It says nothing about either of these issues… but it's the reason I'm drawn to asatru despite what whiny, self-righteous faggots people on both sides of this argument can be.

What the fuck is going on

So /asatru/ars, I made offerings yesterday. And it seems like each time I do, I have the most fucked up dreams. The first time I made offerings, I had a weird-ass nightmare, and the second time (last night) I had an incest dream. I don't know if these are supposed to be some kind of sign or trick or what, but my offerings are followed by a single dream every night that is guaranteed to be fucked up. Thoughts?

Hello /asatru/

I've always been very interested in norse mythology, and especially the sides of it that deals with nature and our ancestors' spirituality concerning it.

Here in my country, we have this organization called Forn Sidr that I heard about many years ago and decided to investigate, and while they do indeed claim to practice asatru, they came across more like a hobby club than an actual religious circle. They talked very little about any kind of actual religious beliefs and a lot more about how we should all just get together and talk it out and come up with our own idea of what Asatru should be in modern times. While I think it's fine that they're open to new ideas, it put me off too, because it made it seem like it was more like a roleplaying club that held very little regard for the traditions and ideas of the old ways.

My first question here is, is there really enough information regarding the viking beliefs to revive this "dead" religion and provide genuine answers to spiritual questions in modern day, or will it always just be a corrupted and modernized imitation?

My second question is, I'm aware there's a lot of neo-nazi connections to "Wodenism", and that many Scandinavian and Germanic ultranationalists look to ancestor-worship more for its justifications for their political beliefs than any genuine religious conviction. Is that something that takes up a lot of space in the various Asatru circles? Do you find it's generally accepted, or do the "true believers" shun those who use the faith as a political tool?

Thirdly, both Islam and Christianity has tons of secondary literature on their primary sources, i.e the Koran and the Bible. Could you recommend me literature on this religion, apart from the Eddas? Has anyone written about the Eddas and what they mean in a religious sense?

"Christian theology is the grandmother of Bolshevism."

—Oswald Spengler

Educate me please

I'm looking for someone knowledgeable about symbolism.

The meaning of symbols I can discover for myself, what I need to be educated about is the meanings inherent in the orientation of symbols.

For example, a symbol meaning one thing inverted becomes an antonym of that meaning.

One symbol placed above another expresses dominance.

If I have two side profiles of, lets say lions, and I place them side by side, claws facing away from eachother, what does this imply?

Transversely, if I was to place them side by side, claws facing towards eachother, what does this imply?

Google has been useless. Any help would be appreciated.

ccs

Whats with the ccs? is it gone? the old asatru type we used to had last year

An Asatruar made a thread on halfchan /b/ with the purpose of redpilling anons on Christianity and non-whites. Instead of Christians, a bunch of European liberal heathens, including some mongrels, flocked to the thread and tore down OPs arguments, denying that their heathen ancestors would tolerate "white supremacy".

Also I recognized that Masai picture which was posted on here a while ago by an SJW heathen.

It feels like there's been a recent influx of univeralists on chans, why is this happening now?

OC do not steal

Reminder that it was servants of the Demiurge that destroyed our Teutonic faith as well as the Hellenic, Baltic, Slavic, and Celtic faiths.

Love your gods, love nature, and read /fringe/ material daily.

Even if you do not know it yet, you are servants of the Aeons, keep doing as you do Asatruars.

AFA Enlisting Gothis

http://asatrufolkassembly.org/about-the-afa/afa-clergy-program/

What do you guys think? I am halfway tempted to apply.

a source about scandinavian people

Hello /asatru/, I was making research about my ancestors(Türks) beliefs and traditions, I've found a source about both our and your people. I've found this book neutral enough, and I wanted to share it since you guys intrested in with this kind of stuff.

Also by saying 'rus' in that script, most likely he refers kievan rus who are scandinavian.

https://www.library.cornell.edu/colldev/mideast/montgo1.pdf

http://www.sammustafa.com/Resources/Fadlan.pdf

He thought scandinavians were dirty but very handsome, if I'm not wrong it's mentioned in one of these sources.

Sorry for if it's posted before and bad english

Is sodomy a sin in Asatru religion?

Can I do anal/oral with my gf?

And what's the consequence of sinning (degeneracy) any way? Reborn as a nigger? How do you attain salvation in Asatru?

>Edred Thorsson

>Sign of The Hammer (Neo-pagan self-delusion, borrowing from christianity due to leftover mental baggage, ie signing the Cross)

>Hammer Rite (Wiccan borrowing, no historical records speak of it afaik)

>Temple of Set

>uses Crowleyan term 'Aeon' when discussing runes (not hating on individuals dabbling with the occult here, but in a broad context mixing Aleister Crowley with heathenry seem quite off, akin to icelandtruar claiming feminism)

Tell me again why he's any sort of authority, since Asatru is a non-NewAgefluff attempt at reconstructing a worthy tradition? I see his books being recommended just about everywhere, yet he seems like a edgy LHP wiccan when I look at his work. Also pushes LOADS of "Runes Guide"-type books filled with his UPG, similar to New Age self help books.

I admit that he's contributed to the revival by translating rare/somewhat obscure german/icelandic texts to an english-reading audience, his scholarship there IS of great importance, but that about covers it imo. Having a Left Hand Path devotee as Rune Guru in the english speaking world doesn't seem authentic to me (unless you dabble in LHP and occult matters yourself).

Potato negro in need.

Please help. I have mostly irish blood. The rest is english and scandanavian, but my ancestors are mostly irish. The thing is, celtic paganism is so fucking faggy and degenerate. Basically all druidry groups I can find are degenerates. Can I practice asatru even if I have all this potato nigger blood? I am 6 ft tall with blond hair and blue eyes, which I most likely get from my scandanavian/anglo genes, but my features are pretty irish. Please hell me goys.

So, summer is gone, winter is coming and autumn is here. What are you doing to protect yourself from spirits while the barriers the living world and dead world are fragile this Samhain?

Hearth Thread

Idea lifted from another board I frequent, originally called a "comfy thread." Name changed to better fit this board of course.

Come in, sit down, unwind, pour a cup of mead or ale, tell us about your day. Any interesting experiences that relate to Asatru? Just have a fun day with your family? Coworkers, peers, or otherwise question you about your hammer pendant? Whatever the case, feel free to tell your fellow heathen in this thread.

It's my hope that with this thread we can try to bond better as a community. Especially with all the recent shitposting.

Reddit and VOAT

I guess this thread might be controversial, but here it goes:

Even though reddit's asatru board can be used to gather some information (I did it before), it is absolutely awful in most other aspects. With the recently announced goal of reddit becoming a "safe platform", people are looking for alternatives, the most promising one being voat.co. Voats asatru board looked promising, but was unfortunately taken over by a redditor.

The consequence, among others, being many videos being deleted, including Varg's. That and the opening post containing the typical "no racism" babble indicate in which the new board will go. It's really funny to see them testing out a now site because they are concerned about censorship and the first thing they do is delete things they don't like.

Even if voat does not take off, we should take the chance and occupy other related boards, making sure they don't fall in the hand of redditors.

I just created:

https://voat.co/v/Heathenry

and

https://voat.co/v/Heathen

The latter will simply redirect to heathenry.

And I am currently working on it, even though I suck at it. I will probably copy a lot from the sticky here. I hope you guys will be able to help me keeping it sort of active by posting stuff, in order to keep it in our hands. Else others might try to take it over. I'd really appreciate some sort of help.

Greenpilled Ásatrú Scouting and Guiding

Information Gathering Thread

Volkisch Communities in Germany

God i wish i could live there, like my ancestors which were German farmers. Also watch how they act like white people living healthily is a bad thing and the Pol/ack comments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6n4t5i9_G0

What does /asatru/ think about Golden Dawn's hellenic pagan roots and membership? If Golden Dawn win the coming elections and get leads, you could see a true interpretation of ancient European paganism manifest in state-funded avenues

Can pagans read and enjoy Christian stories written by Christians, that have Christian themes and maybe references to Christ? Or should we avoid them? Would our ancestors approve?

I've been reading things like Macbeth, Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, The Divine Comedy and thoroughly enjoying them and finding their wisdom useful.

I like the fantasy/medieval settings and language and themes…

Is this frowned upon ?

What you guys believe.

Hey guys, I'm a Christian, not a pagan, but I am interested and have a question. Do you guys believe, 100%, that the gods are real and all of the other pagan stuff is real? Like, as a Christian, I really do believe the Bible is true and God is real. I am wondering if you guys 100% believe in the gods, or if you guys participate in the rituals as a political statement. Also, if you do 100% believe the gods are real, what evidence is there for their existence? Btw, I mean no disrespect, and if some of the stuff I said was wrong it is because I am not educated on paganism.

Pic unrelated

/christian/ talking shit

>>>/christian/167124

Sounds like Lindisfarne 2.0 is needed.

no love or sex help

How does Asatru cope with not having a cutie mate and being single?

Were 25 year old virgins looked down upon in viking lands?

Pagans in recent history.

Hey guys, I was wondering if there were any famous pagans from somewhat recent history, like 1200-1800. What did they do, what type of pagan were they? I am mostly wondering if pagans were still active when Europe was almost entirely Christian. Thanks!

Ashley Madison

Rejoice fellow heathens, for many whores and adulterers of Ashley Madison have been outed by righteous hackers.

So I think we should take some time to look at our ancestors' punishments for adulterers.

>By such means is the virtue of their women protected, and they live uncorrupted by the temptations of public shows or the excitements of banquets. Clandestine loveletters are unknown to men and women alike. Adultery is extremely rare, considering the size of the population. A guilty wife is summarily punished by her husband. He cuts off her hair, strips her naked, and in the presence of kinsmen turns her out of his house and flogs her all through the village. They have in tact no mercy on a wife who prostitutes her chastity. Neither beauty, youth, nor wealth can find her another husband. No one in Germany finds vice amusing, or calls it 'up-to-date' to seduce and be seduced. Even better is the practice of those states in which only virgins may marry, so that a woman who has once been a bride has finished with all such hopes and aspirations. She takes one husband, just as she has one body and one life. Her thoughts must not stray beyond him or her desires survive him. And even that husband she must love not for himself, but as an embodiment of the married state. To restrict the number of children, or to kill any of those born after the heir, is considered wicked. Good morality is more effective in Germany than good laws are elsewhere.

So that leads me to my next question.

What do we do if/when we find some of our own on the Ashley Madison list? High ranking members of the AFA, AA, Irminsfolk, Odinic Rite, etc. I can only hope the Asatru community responds in a proper manner. Does anyone know the emails any important figures in these organizations use?

However, let's say we don't find any heathens on the list, can we use this as a means to prove Asatru's good moral grounds?

Like I said in >>7210, Dylan Sprouse is a decent role model to children, and can act as a good gateway to the religion. Already people have found many Vatican members on the list, not to mention Josh Duggar who is head of an organization for Christian Family Values, clearly this man practiced what he preached on a daily basis(not). Disillusioned white folk may start to lose faith in Christianity and search for alternatives, is this a good opportunity to add to our ranks?

Are beards pagan-mode or gay-mode?

Seems like only hipsters and muslims have them now

Look, I know we're friends with /fringe/ but...

…So much of their stuff is New Age bullshit. Many of the ideas they have incorporated into their magic are non-European in origin. To embrace some of these practices would make me feel too much like a Wiccan faggot.

Can I just move onto Nazi Esotericism and any remaining info on Seiðr so I can be a wizard more in line with those of our ancestors, or are there some basics I have to read up on first before I get to any of that?

I mean I accept loosh as a thing, however I prefer to call it "vril" as our ancestors did. And of course I'm all for astral projecting, in fact I'll try to do it tonight.

Any pagan wizards in here care to help me out?

Reincarnation.

Did the Asatru folk realize that they could be reincarnated as animals, or other races or even aliens on other planets/dimensions?

This makes caring for your 'bloodline' kind of trivial, since it's really temporary and basically an accident of chance.

The Wild Hunt

It's a couple of months before the traditional season of the Wild Hunt begins. There are, of course, some superstitions connected to the Wild Hunt, such as the notion that seeing it pass by is a particularly ill omen, so this is probably the best time of year to have a thread about it.

I find it fascinating that the Wild Hunt is recognized as a folk tradition throughout so much of Europe, extending comfortably outside the Germanic sphere of influence and into other European cultures, such as the Welsh hounds of Annwn. To me this suggests that this is a very old and very fundamental European legend that should be accorded a significant place in our treatment of the lore.

>Ancient heathens were not Folk

k lel

BRAINLESS SISSY WICCA FALSE PAGAN RETARD TRIES TO PUSH LGBT NONSENSE AND CALLS ANYONE WHO POINTS OUT CONTRADICTION A 'REACTIONARY'

Why do post-modernists try to distort indigenous European ethno-faiths to fit their narrow world view?

http://icelandmag.visir.is/article/icelandic-pagan-association-receives-hate-mail-reactionary-pagans-abroad

Perspective on Asatru; there's more to it than the AFA

http://icelandmag.visir.is/article/heathenry-iceland-america-and-germany-mainstream-and-fringe

>Unlike Iceland, where one religious organization includes nearly all Heathens, America and Germany have a large number of national organizations, regional associations, local groups and lone practitioners.

>The Ásatrúarfélagið focuses on Icelandic heritage.

>Given the nation’s rich literary past and mostly monocultural society, its members can look to purely Icelandic sources for information on pre-Christian religion, mining the medieval Eddas and sagas for texts to be used in blóts (religious rituals) and for models of how these rituals may be performed.

>Members gather to discuss Old Icelandic poems, and several leaders of the organization actively participate in re-enactment of music, crafts and fighting techniques of Iceland’s early settlers.

>American Heathens tend to be more omnivorous in their studies. This is understandable, in light of the great cultural diversity of American society. >American Heathens incorporate elements from Iceland’s Eddas and sagas into their practice, but they also delve into literary sources from England, Denmark, Germany and the Roman Empire.

>German Heathens are interested in Icelandic materials, but largely turn to the pre-Christian history of their own region for inspiration and guidance.

>Written accounts of Germanic Heathens include Latin texts by Caesar and Tacitus; archeological evidence stretches back hundreds of years BCE.

> Andreas Zautner, a member of the German Heathen organization the Eldaring, stresses the importance of local history: “Specific historical Heathen events play an important role for Heathens in Germany.

>One event common to most Germans is the defeat of the Roman legions by Hermann the Cherusker. The two-thousandth anniversary of the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest was celebrated by German Heathens only a few years ago.”

Pagan Gods never proclaimed any commandments. Thus there is no such thing as sin or morality in Paganism. There is no divine moral authority.

You can adopt man-made customs for yourself based on some shitty historical analysis, but that is your own problem, not ours. As Pagans we are guided by our own subjectivity and might. Not your shoddy historical analysis of "customs".

Please don't confuse man-made customs with morality or Divine authority.

Don't confuse customs/laws with morality. What was a law in one tribe might not be a law in another, depending on time and environment.

Just for your own knowledge. anyone who goes around saying "such and such is degenerate" is just making a subjective opinion, it has no bearing on Paganism as such. i.e If you don't like porn or fapping or getting drunk or hunting animals or psych drugs or partying or polygamy, that's your own idiosyncracy, it has no bearing on Paganism. Paganism has no "morals" don't confuse culturally relative customs with morals.

I hope you guys can purify the Christ-cuck beliefs out of your language and stop acting like Paganism has some tangible Divine Moral Code we can follow. It has no morals. It doesn't, it actually never had. It only had some man-made suggestions and practical advice/legal tropes, that changed from tribe to tribe, and period to period. Depending on their needs and whims.

No Divine Moral Code exists in Paganism. Stop trying to be psuedo-Christians, it's nauseating. Seriously, stop making us look like Christ-cucks. I hear you guys say things like pre-marital sex is a sin. Please purify your brains. Just cause some northern tribe at one point "MIGHT" have frowned upon it is irrelevant.

Paganism is 10s of thousands of years old. I just want Paganism to not be infected with Christ-cuck ideology.

Why not /rel/?

Why use a board dedicated to a particular religious orientation when you can use the general religion board?

>>>/rel/

Interview with HOH High Priest of Iceland's new pagan temple

>TFW you will never know what it feels like to chill with Steve McNallan, Latsbrah, Varg, Dan Rayner, Dylan Sprouse, and Rob Darken in the same room, sipping mead and talking the sagas and lore together. Sharing your knowledge and interpretations with the utmost respect for one another.

>TFW you will never all hit the gym together for a glorious powerlifting session honoring the gods.

>TFW you will never have a blot to the gods afterwards thanking them for the gains in wisdom and strength

>TFW you will never all go egg and TP Hilmar Örn Hilmarsson's house later and spraypaint "CUCK" on his front door and then go home laughing together thinking about the look on his face in the morning.

Why must I feel these feels?

If I forgot any other notable Folkish Heathens please say so

I find it extraordinarily strange that simultaneously on earth there are people living in luxury concerning themselves over absolute inanities such as where they should go on vacation next or who their neighbor is sleeping with, while there are others who are living in in such severe poverty that they suffer everyday in filth before starving to death or succumbing to disease or violence.

Some people are exposed to religion and philosophy which gives them tools to cope with suffering, others are kept in the dark and simply suffer in ignorance and confusion.

Does Asatru have an answer for this?

I understand that there is no principle of justice in nature, but the shear distance between the two states is almost too extreme to comprehend.

Question.

What was Odins punishment for atheism?

Did the norse/anglo saxon gods punish people for not believing in them?

Hi, I'm looking for a religion that fits the following bill.

>Good morals

>No fags/sjws

>Rich history

>Nobody other than Caucasians can practice

>A semi-organized church/temple/kindred/whatever

I'm Swedish, Norwegian, and German. My family got out of Sweden before the Somalians took our culture and race, so I'm 100% white. Is Asatru right for me?

What's /asatru/'s opinion on Varg?

A friend recently called me Wiccan by accident, so I went out of the way to make this chart for him

Does /asatru/ approve?

Is masturbation Asatru-pilled. Fapping to porn is definitely degenerate, but what about fapping without porn; using one's imagination? Obviously, a gf is better than beating it, but some people don't have a gf. TheGoldenOne says it's alright, but he has been wrong about some things. So, what's your opinion /asatru/? Fap or no fap?

By the way, I'm not posting this on /pol/ because I don't want to be flooded with comments such as "GOD DUN LIKE IT XDD". I want real reasons, not dogmatic Christian shit

>The Roman Imperial cult drew its power and effect from both religious traditions deeply engrained in Roman culture, such as the veneration of the genius of each individual and of the ancestral dead, and on forms of the Hellenistic ruler cult developed in the eastern provinces of the Empire.

>The Imperial cult was inseparable from that of Rome's official deities, whose cult was essential to Rome's survival and whose neglect was therefore treasonous.

>Christian apologists and martyrologists saw the cult of the Emperor as a particularly offensive instrument of "pagan" impiety and persecution.[1] It therefore became a focus of theological and political debate during the ascendancy of Christianity under Constantine I. The emperor Julian failed to reverse the declining support for Rome's official religious practices: Theodosius I adopted Christianity as Rome's state religion. Rome's traditional gods and Imperial cult were officially abandoned.

If degenerate judeo-christfags from the desert wouldn't have suceeded in killing off the pagan european roman spiritual cult and its folk practices resulting in the subsequent degeneracy and fall of the roman empire, how would european history have progressed? Would germanics and romans have lived side by side and conquered the lesser, that is to say non-european races over time?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_cult_%28ancient_Rome%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mos_maiorum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_saint

Questions on ancestry in regards to asatru.

So I've been going over the Rigveda for a while now, and I'm curious about the caste system.

Was this subject to change at all? Or was it set from birth? As in, could someone from the warrior or worker castes ascend to nobility through hard work? Seems rather obvious that a worker or farmer could easily pick up arms and join the military though.

Hi, /asatru/. I would be grateful if someone could explain to me the relationship between the polytheistic Indo-European religions and gnosticism/alchemy.

Are We Being Raided by /christian/?

There's been a lot of bait posts/comments….

Interesting

So what do guys believe? That a cow named audhumla created the first man by licking a block of ice?

How can any of the old pagan beliefs be brought forward when they're completely contradicting modern science?

Or am I wrong and neo paganism has a different set of gods or a different view of life completely?

Explain

Slavs

If the slavs used to be Germanic, why is their religion different? Where did it come from? Would a Slav be able to worship the pantheons of either religion?

The Bloop is actually Jormungandr, the serpent of Midgard, sleeping on the ocean bed, wrapped around Earth(Midgard) waiting to awaken on the days of Ragnarok.

Prove me wrong. Protip: You can't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBN56wL35IQ

Totems, Totemism, Totem animals

It should be a well known fact by now that our ancestors practiced totemism, our holiest animals in the Germanic regions being the bear, the wolf, and the eagle.

Do you guys ever feel like you might have a totem animal? I mean not in an otherkin or fursona sense, in fact, I consider all that furry culture shit to be a bastardization of totemic traditions, likely spearheaded by the merchants. I have felt a connection with bears recently, especially now after watching through Marie Cachet's Bear Cult videos. Unfortunately bear pelts are pricy and hard to come by. I would love to go hunting for them, but I don't have a permit.

I guess what I'm trying to ask is, where can I find a good source on totems that isn't complete Wiccatru hippie new age horse shit?

Finding my heritage

What was the original religion of the English people? Would it even be right to still worship that religion today, seeing as how we have been integrated with many different peoples from all over the world… Saxons, Romans, Vikings, Normans, etc, all with their own pagan beliefs? Do modern English people have direct ancestry to the original inhabitants of England?

So what was the religion? I know it differed from other pagan beliefs around Europe, and I'm hoping to only pursue the original religion of the british people in an effort to revive our culture and heritage from the damage the Jews are doing.

You guys seem to know a lot about this stuff.

Where do I find a good, preferrably leather bound, hard copy set of the prose and poetic eddas? My preference is for the RB Anderson translation, but I will look at other translations (not Hollander, though)

Have any of you bought nice copies of the eddas? It's hard enough to even find a damn paperback on the internet, so much so that I'm tempted to just order a paperback and have it custom rebound.

Nationalism and Its Effects on Peace in Europe

With global crisis, unemployment, dissatisfaction, poverty and intolerance has increased and with it also nationalism. Political parties with nationalist platforms are rising and gaining more support around the world and Europe is no exception.

In Spain, Italy, and the United Kingdom and across Europe we can see the rise of the right. The financial crisis in the Eurozone and beyond has triggered rising of nationalists and far-right political parties.

The European Commission against Racism and Intolerance (ECRI) on 9th of JuIy released a report about the dramatic increase in anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, online hate speech and xenophobic political discourse as the main trends in 2014.

Nationalism can be positive with legitimacy, promotion of nations and inspiration for citizens or negative by creating tensions between different ethnicity and groups in or outside the country. Some negative aspects of ideology or political movement can be seen in the latest football matches in the Balkans, where supporters of team groups have burned many national flags and hooliganism that is the result of long lasting hatred and nationalism on the ground. Every country has its own history and different positions, but still similarities could be found.

The country all news is regarding to in recent times is Greece. A known slogan “Greece for Greeks” is well known in its anti-austerity party. Attacks against minorities and immigrants with racism are seen in one of the European Union (EU) members. Golden Dawn neo-Nazi party is linked to hundreds of violent attacks against minorities.

It is known for anti-immigration, racist-nationalist worldview. With elections being held this year in January the party captured 6.3% of the vote and 17 senate seats in Hellenic parliament and become the country’s third largest party. In 2014 the party won 9.4% of votes in European parliamentary election and with it 3 seats out of 21.

The party has been put on a trial this year for its criminal activity.

Nationalism in Greece has divided citizens and noncitizens to us and them and created the gap between both. With the economic crisis, Greeks debt, overall economic meltdown, unemployment and increasing number of refugees from different countries, the party led by Nikos Michaloliakos has gained more support and caused even greater intolerance to foreign people in need. Unfortunately, they are not the only one spreading intolerance. Many politicians have a stance against immigrants, which shapes the Greeks’ attitude towards nationalism.

https://archive.is/Fnu9K

Explain this

What type of rituals do you do?

If you're theistic, have you ever experienced anything which you're certain was "supernatural"?

Is there any books on these types of rituals? I watched a documentary a long time ago and remember something about rituals that are considered externally dangerous to attempt, I would do them if I knew how to.

Also, what do you guys believe?

How can you interpret the ancient paganism metaphorically? What is there to learn from it? It's just a bunch of myths that the ancients used to explain shit they didn't understand. "It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit."

I'm new to all of this stuff… So links to places where I can read ancient texts and shit would be appreciated.

>tfw Persians, North Africans and some non-Semitic Middle Eastern peoples were white, had their own indigenous ethno-gods

>tfw semitic jew-god worshipper arabs destroyed the genetic integrity of these regions and their faiths

>tfw if it wasnt for the sea of ethnic and spiritual shit that was the rise of islam we would consider all these peoples our fellow aryan brothers

>tfw there are still a few gems left that didn't get shit on

>tfw europeans (scythians, sogdians, tocharians, sarmatians) were even on the borders of china

Asatru and Monarchism

/asatru/, what are your opinions on the Mithraic mysteries?

Unlike what some people believe Mithraic mysteries are uniquely European and the Mithraic Mithras has little if anything to do with the Persian Mithras, almost all of the Mithraic mystery temples are located in Western Europe and are centered around Rome.

I really like Mithra as a way to bridge the gap between various pagan European groups out there.

Mithras was at one point incorporated into all of the religions of the European parts of the Roman empire but almost none of the religions from outside of Europe.

Regretfully most of the believes and traditions have disappeared because of the secrecy of the cult, but thanks to it's rivalry with Christianity and it's links with pagans religions and especially the Sol Invictus cult we do know about some of the rituals, traditions and believes.

Could we build on these few things to create a new Mithras cult? A mystery cult that stands for all European peoples and against our invaders.

NRR-Northern Runes Radio

Valhalla/Folkvangr and the Modern World

First and foremost, this is not an encouragement of any violent acts, since I know how you guys respond to that (rightly so, probably.) I'm just very curious about the subject.

Is it possible to enter Valhalla/Folkvangr in our modern world? What would the conditions be? Do you have to believe in the old faiths? Do those who defended their Germanic peoples as Christians by circumstance enter Valhalla?

Is Valhalla filled with the ranks of the fallen Wehrmacht and Waffen SS? Is it also filled with the European British and American soldiers who fought against them? Can an ethnically Norwegian/German soldier who falls in battle in Afghanistan enter Valhalla? Can an ethnically European US soldier who falls in Afghanistan enter Valhalla?

If our modern soldiers can enter Valhalla, what is the nature of warfare on it's plains? Do they take their modern weapons with them, or do they practice the traditional arts?

Would Odin not want to take these people, even if they lack faith in his kind? Would he not want them to stand by his side at Ragnarok?

/asatru/ calender

Do we have an official calendar for holidays? Which one do you use? If we don't have one I suggest we put all the important dates and events into one ITT

Hey asatru, I have a problem. I follow asatru to the best of my ability (not many places around here where I can buy Nordic things), but I have thoughts of being a female. I know most heathens stance on being a tranny, and I agree. It's a mental illness. Is there anything I can do to quell these thoughts so I can get some peace of mind? I've already quit jerking away my testosterone but it just made my urges worse. Thanks for your help.

>yfw God literally translates to Odin and the Odin tribes:

The translation for the word deus of the Latin Bible was influenced by the then current usage by the tribes for their highest deity, namely Wodan by Angles, Saxons, and Franks of north-central and western Europe, and Godan by the Lombards of south-central Europe around Rome. There are many instances where the name Godan and Wodan are contracted to God and Wod.[4] One instance is the wild hunt (a.k.a. Wodan's wild hunt) where Wod is used

Some variant forms of the name Odin such as the Lombardic Godan may point in the direction that the Lombardic form actually comes from Proto-Germanic *ǥuđánaz. Wōdanaz or Wōđinaz is the reconstructed Proto-Germanic name of a god of Germanic paganism, known as Odin in Norse mythology, Wōden in Old English, Wodan or Wotan in Old High German and Godan in the Lombardic language. Godan was shortened to God over time and was adopted/retained by the Germanic peoples of the British isles as the name of their deity, in lieu of the Latin word Deus used by the Latin speaking Christian church, after conversion to Christianity.

Proto-Germanic root geut- with the meaning "to pour" designating the tribes as "pourers of metal" or "forgers of men". The "pouring" etymology associates the name with the word god (*gudan "deity, idol"), which may be derived from the zero grade of the same root.

TIL, that beer has feminine hormones in it which make you get belly and man boob fat. Basically its bad for men and good for women despite how culture acts like beer is manly. But i like the taste of beer. What other alcohol could i drink and or offer the gods that wont turn me into a fat mangina. I think ale which i also like the taste of suffers the same affliction. Mead i don't really like and its expensive in my country. Wine tastes bad. What are my options?

Is he correct?

Reading Recommendations

I'm going camping this weekend. It's a very mountainous and forested region by a large lake. As a white man who feels alienated by the state of our world, I'm interested in your faith, and wondering if it's right for me.

I own an old Kindle Keyboard, that should be able to hold battery the entire time and then some. I'm expecting a decent amount of downtime, so this seems like a good time to do some learning while i'm in the midst of nature.

What should I read during this time to learn the most important elements of your faith and lore, and where can I find it in kindle compatible file formats?

Sun Worship

Sun Worship Thread

Do you honor the Sun?

It is what gives us life and has let us know when we need to wake up

The Iron Cross and Heathenism

As a pan-Germanic nationalist and national socialist, the Eisenkreuz as an order and as a symbol of Germanic strength and sacrifice retain a significant amount of importance to me. However, the origins of the design of the symbol present a pretty clear conflict of interest with heathenism. Do you think it's appropriate to hold it in reverence in the context of your Asatru faith, even without doing so in a religious manner? Should it be seen as it's own symbol, adopted by the times into it's own meaning, or does the inherent Christian symbolism override that?

Pagan Midsummer Celebration in Latvia

Repost from >>>/pol/2671433 (https://archive.is/VidTh)

A mass gathering in Latvia celebrates the Midsummer holiday. They sing "Saule, Pērkons, Daugava" in praise of the gods of the sun, the water, and thunder.

This is the face of nationalism in Europe. Thousands of Latvians embracing the heritage of their ancestors, celebrating the traditions that have belonged to their people for thousands and thousands of years. Sweeping away the alien Christian religion that poisoned Europe with a foreign Semitic dogma.

This is the Europe that stood for millennia before foreigners imposed an invasive outside religion rooted in the Jewish Torah. This is the restoration of European greatness.

This is the glorious image of hope for the White race.

''Sun Latvia Seat

Where edges converge

Sea, green earth

key to the gate of Latvia

The key to the gate of Latvia

Daugava (Dvina) – the keeper

And when strangers broke into the gate

At sea, the key fell

Lightning struck Perun

After taking the key from the devils

Death and life are locked

Like white sea and green earth

Posada Sun Latvia

on the edge of the White Sea

winds raise Sands

What will our children drink?

The Sun God was

If only revived Daugaviņa

beasts tear direction.

the god is pouring from the heavens water of life

Living water and dead water

Poured into the River Daugava

I dip fingertips

The soul of the two sensations

Living water and dead water

soul in two senses

Sun – Our Mother

Daugava (High Water) lulls pain

Perun – Veles conqueror

Father to us.''

New sagas

Since the discussion on that already is derailing the book thread I though it would be nice to have a thread dedicated to the creation of modern sagas, poems and art in general I guess.

Also, it seems people would like to see sagas involving other persons as well, including Hitler. I'm really unsure about this, but I think it might work if it's not judging in any way, so neither positive or negative. But that does absolutely not stop you from writing something. And if no one writes anything, we will get absolutely nothing done, and that would be kind of shameful I think.

So how about everyone here takes some time and puts some work into it. And posts it on here. Remember, this is anonymous and people can only judge the anonymous, so even if you think it sucks, post it. Others then can pick that work up and modify it if they feel like it. I'm pretty sure the Nibelungenlied wasn't written in a day. Also, sharing your knowledge of writing/ with us others would be nice.Eventually the art that reflects us the most will survive.

And for the beginning anything is much better than nothing.

re: FAQ

>We believe in an all-pervading divine essence which is beyond our immediate understanding

But was this the understanding of the ancient Asatruars?

>weakness, cowardice, adherence to dogma rather than to the realities of the world, and the like – constitute our vices and are to be avoided

Isn't it dogmatic to believe something because it speaks to your soul (i.e. sentimentally agrees with you)?

>We may be Gods-in-the-making, but we are members of the animal kingdom nonetheless!

If joining the rank of gods is the goal, isn't the human condition very corrupt and fallen indeed?

Ealdríce Hǽðengyld

Has anyone here heard of or had any personal experiences with this group?

I'm going to be moving to Virginia soon (a couple of hours outside of Richmond) and have been really curious about Anglo-Saxon heathenry. I've started reading on the subject (Swain Wodening) but I have no real direction.

I'm aware that they are a Theodish group but most serious Anglo-Saxon groups are. Still I'm nervous that it is going to turn out they are just a bunch of semi-serious cosplayers.

Anyone have any info?

Pic is from their website: http://ealdrice.org/

Can I ask Odin and Thor for forgiveness? I am skinnyfat, bordering on chubby. I can am strong but I'm too lazy to lift and get built. I'd like to ask Odin for forgiveness for being a lazy fuck and Thor for not being fit.

you are a pagan in a gym and see this man..

your actions?

Clergy/Gothar/Priesthood

Has anyone here considered becoming a Gothi?

I'm contemplated the idea before. Still juggling in my head the responsibilities, sacrifices I'll have to make, perks, prestige, etc.

General info on all the stuff you'll have to do as a Gothi here.

http://www.asatru.org/roleofgothar.php

The AFA has a training program for Gothar, since Mr. McNallen is generally liked here I thought I'd post that as well.

http://asatrufolkassembly.org/about-the-afa/afa-clergy-program/

I could just start my own independent kindred and claim myself as a Gothi, but if I were seeking spiritual enlightenment, I'd rather my guide have gone through a rigorous training program than just be some guy who played Skyrim and then thinks he knows everything about Germanic Paganism.

That and the AFA is a legally recognized religious organization, so being an ordained clergymen would give you all the legal perks any clergymen of any other religion in the US would have.

On top of that, the priesthood were considered a part of the highest caste established by Heimdall. Becoming one would make you an instant nobleman, but of course you will have a duty to your tribe and the gods.

So of course, it's something to really consider before jumping into.

This seems to be the closest board related since we like discussing general paganism here. Is anyone here familiar with Shintoism at all?

In light of recent events, I want to know what the Yamato people's interpretation of the afterlife is. Do they believe in reincarnation?

Also, goodnight sweet prince ;_;7

Not sure if this belongs here

I post here all the time.

I made this image to demonstrate my thoughts on religion, but I'm not sure if it belongs here or on /pol/

I am just curious, if an asatru was romantically involved with a non-white race, what would the gods think of this? Would it be some kind of blasphemy? Would they have to abandon the faith? or their significant other?

Paganism in the Netherlands

hey /astaru/ i'm ethnically dutch, but living in north america. What type of paganism and what traditions did my dutch ancestors practice?

Child rearing

Are any of you all parents? where do you find pagan grills? all of the female pagans ive met have been wiccatru universalists.

On following the path of ancestors

Hey /Asatru/.

I'm American, but descended from English, Irish, Welsh, and Portuguese ancestors (though my Portuguese relatives have blue eyes for the most part)

I don't think I have any connection to Scandinavia so what can I follow?

There's a lot on the Internet about Celtic Paganism, but to my knowledge it's infested with SJWs and 'Wiccans' (eugh).

I tried to find something on Iberian folk religions but to no avail. What Wikipedia said was that they were basically Celtic Pagans in pre-Roman times.

So what can I follow that isn't Kike-on-a-stickism?

How Did You "Become" A Heathen

I currently identify as a Skeptic, leaning towards Atheism, however I feel drawn to nature and to something greater than myself. Is this the Gods calling for me? I have always honored what my ancestors stood for, I just have a hard time believing. Is honor enough, or must I believe to truly prosper?

What indigenous gods should ethnically English people worship? Celtic or Germanic? Saxon genes are questionable

What music does /asatru/ listen to?

Is it possible to Paganize Christianity and claim it for our own?

I know pagans liked to borrow and incoroprate Gods from all sorts of pantheons

>Asatru is the original, or native, religion for the peoples who lived in these regions.

How does this statement even make sense? What makes Norse religion indigenous to Northern Europe? Especially North Western Europe wasn't pagan for very long, 2500 years at most. And why do you think the religion of swarthy Eurasian steppe dwellers is useful for white preservation?

Birthday is coming up and was wanting a tattoo. Was either thinking about a Valknut on the left side of my chest (near my heart) or Algiz rune on my right upper arm (near my shoulder) question for the latter. Is it safe or wise to get this rune as a tattoo?

>INB4 Tattoos are degenerate

Sorry but I have no problems with not being buried in a Jewish cemetery so I see nothing wrong with getting a tattoo.

/asatru/ I don't know what to do. All around me I see the world getting worse and worse. I went to a library today and they had a whole shelf full of books about trannies, otherkin, and other assorted faggots. All the voices on ads from my city's radio are effeminate males. It might be /pol/ is making the way things are look worse, but it's driving me insane.

I'm very young (still a teenager) so my only real idea is to wait for the habbeding and strengthen myself for a tougher but better world. I would go full lone wolf mode if it weren't for my family. A couple of them are still babies.

(Also, I'm not pagan because I want to rebel against my Christian parents or anything like that, in fact I explicitly don't tell them because I think it's more important to be happy with your kin than to be a tryhard edgelord for the sake of personified forces of nature)

tl:dr what do about the future?

Rune Casting (Divination)

So I bought a set of runes and was thinking about using them for Divination. I was just wondering if anyone knew any methods (not influenced by new age wiccatru faggotry) to cast them?

Also is it considered Argr?

Are you guys NS or at least Nationalist (racial/ethno)?

I need to know to determine whether it's complete shit.

Hey /asatru/,

I want to follow the way of my ancestors, but there is just one small problem I have: I am mixed. I am half Southern European (Balkan) and half Northern European (Northern Germany). Would I still follow my ancestors if I would worship a Germanic God? I am really in an internal conflict right now and don't know which of my ancestors to follow; I hope someone here could help me.

>pic unrelated

Cold treatment

Jack Donovan's Take on the Runes and Their Ties to Masculinity

http://www.jack-donovan.com/axis/2014/12/way-men-gods-runes/

For those of you who don't know, Jack Donovan boils masculinity down to 4 aspects; Strength, Courage, Mastery, and Honor. In this article he assigns each trait to a rune and its corresponding archetype among the gods. Each of these in summation embody Man as proposed by Donovan.

Discuss this based faggot's article ITT.

I was thinking earlier, and I think I've figured out a little of what Odin's stance on humans is compared the the christian God. According to christians, their god is loving. He loves all of his children. Odin, on the other hand, has pride for us humans. He has that pride that a father has for his son. Thoughts on this theory?

Would joining the US Military be approved by the gods? I was thinking about joining to make my great grandfather happy.

Summer Solstice

Next Sunday (06/21) is the Summer Solstice.

How are you planning to act on it? Are you going to celebrate it on some way? Maybe light a fire? Please tell!

An idea I head:

I know it might sound ridiculous, but maybe we could set a certain time and have a drink together? I bet there are a lot of lone Heathens out there (me included), maybe even more who just quietly lurk here. Basically we'd drink a glass of beer/mead/wine/whatever at the set time, knowing there are some who do the same. I know I'd probably kind of enjoy it. Thoughts?

On a slightly related note, it will also be the St John's Eve, the christianized version of the heathen celebration. It however is, as so many of the good European things, in its core still heathen. So shout out to all other people named in some way after that guy: your name day is on a great heathen festival. Then again I don't know if the name day is also a heathen concept. Anyway we might be (very) indirectly named after Balder. I personally consider that in some way nice.

Hermans Saga

A while back on the "Book of Asatru" thread we proposed writing modern sagas for different heroes of the Germanic history

I wrote one for Herman (or Irmin) the German, will post in next post

/pagan/ here, relaunching.

Hi, guys. Owner of the then-dead /pagan/ here. I'm here to say the board will be relaunched under new ownership, but I might need help with a FAQ.

Are you guys able to help provide some Q&A for me to sticky?

Fit body for Fit Mind

Resistance training to maintain and improve lean body mass has the most benefits

Cardiovascular health benefits best from weight training; more than endurance cardiovscular

>They found that men with high grip strength had a decreased risk of mortality; 23 percent lower for every 1 standard deviation (15 kg) increase in grip strength.

>Women with higher grip strength had a 19 percent decreased risk of mortality for every 1 standard deviation (10 kg) increase in grip strength.

https://archive.is/PDuQR

>Researchers used to think that overweight elderly people had a higher risk of dying, but recent studies have shown that both overweight and underweight elderly people are more likely to die. More and more epidemiologists are therefore coming to the conclusion that it’s not bodyweight that determines how long you are likely to live, but lean body mass.

https://archive.is/sdYgw

>We have shown that using typical resistance machines—three days a week at a moderate intensity (65 percent of your 10-repetition maximum) for three sets and 10 repetitions can lead to heart benefits," says Collier. He also adds that one should complete reps at a slow rate to get the most effective workout from the equipment.

https://archive.is/2teqV

I know you fags sperg out whenever someone brings up non-Germanic Paganism so I will make the disclaimer:

I AM NOT A CELTIC PAGAN, I AM A GERMANIC WHO IS HEAVILY INTERESTED IN THE CELTS

but now this is a serious question, why did the Gauls collapse? Why did the Celts die out in all the lands they once held, a vast empire composing of Iberia, Gaul, Briton and even parts of Germany and Italy at one time? Why is it that the only remnants now are a few scattered nations in the English isles and a few communities in Northern France?

To first have this discussion we must dispell the myth that the Gauls/Celts were savage barbarians. They had advanced road-ways that the Romans appropriated after conquering them. They invented chainmail and the helmets later adopted by the Romans and displayed superior skill in metal-working. Their shields and swords were just as well as the Romans while being highly decorated and aesthetically pleasing. Their stone-working predated Roman stonework and was almost as skilled in realism; even what is unrealistic is very aesthetically and symbolically pleasing. Their calendars were more accurate than Roman ones and perhaps more than even our modern Gregorian calendars. They had superior knowledge of the skies and of astronomy even compared to the Germans and Persians of the time.

the lands the Celts controlled were rich and fat with resources, Spain had the most gold in Europe and France had exquisite farm-land. Yet despite all of this, the Celts were not organized as a whole or into an empire and had a very loose, decentralized form of government.

How such an advanced culture could have survived for so long with a disorganized system like theirs is a mystery, and ultimately what brought their downfall (it took far too long for Vercingetorix to organize the Gauls into a rebellion, by the time he did Caesar had already won)

why did the Celts collapse? Why were they so advanced yet so primitive? Why did they not develop any written language, or is it possible that it was lost to us or that they used a different form of language (such as the druid sign language?)

Is it possible the Celts were originally more advanced than the Greeks and Romans and somehow, over time, declined into decentralized barbaric tribes?

On the Subject of Universalists and "No True Scotsman"

Is it possible for Universalists to be considered "Not true Asatruars"?

Obviously that sounds like a shitty feminist "Not real feminist" argument, but could it hold fast in this case?

An argument can be made that the best way to judge "True Asatruar-ness" is to observe how closely a heathen follows the Nine Noble Virtues. And in aggregate, I have no reason to believe that Universalists follow the Virtues less closely than Folkish worshippers. On the other hand, supporting the dilution of our religion by allowing niggers and spics to worship our gods could be imo is such a blatant bastardization that they have strayed too far.

Of course the counterargument is "who decides who is and isn't a true Asatruar?"

Do you believe that they are just misguided, retards, or absolute heretics? Or perhaps you have an entirely different opinion.

Discuss.

Also holy fuck enough with the cross-board advertisements. Fuck off Abrahamics!

Polygamy

Is polygamy asatrupilled?

There are a lot of women that want me to impregnate them… and are so adamant about it they would prefer to be celibate than to be with anyone else but me.

New OR articles, fuckers!

Resisting the Wolf Age - By Redwald

http://www.odinic-rite.org/main/resisting-the-wolf-age/

"The Odinic Rite does not seek to convert the masses, for during the Wolf Age the masses would bring harm and instability to our organisation. Yet we do indeed require members. The mission is, therefore, to show how membership of the Odinic Rite can benefit the individual and how in turn those benefits can radiate outwards to others.

In order to organise a micro-resistance to the Wolf Age, the whole concept of religion should be re-taught to those whom Wyrd may bring fleetingly our way. For although we do not preach, the positive thoughts, actions and religious rites our members perform has the effect of drawing in those who still have an ember of ethno-religious comprehension smouldering deep in their ancestral memory. We must immediately offer these people something of interest lest they drift back towards being spiritually unaware."

Reminder that a Volk without a Heimat and an active Gemeinschaft is nothing but a groundless abstraction, a mental companion.

(I'm looking at you, Americans living in the atomized postmodern wasteland)

Christians living in the South are more "volkisch" than you.

Red pill on Mithraism

Here's an interesting paper on Mithraism, the so-called mysterious cult from the east that

2nd century roman soldiers got into.

https://oregoncoug.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/christ-and-mithras-two-sides-of-the-same-coin.pdf

tl;dr

Mithraism was freemasonry avant-la-lettre. The similarities are uncanny (masonic parallels between brackets):

>a closed society with fabricated mysteries that have nothing to do with the origin of the appropriated symbols (obvious)

>designed to facilitate entryism into society's dominant institution, the army (masonic entryism into Catholic Church, the French republic, etc)

>with the purpose of safeguarding and promoting the early Christian communities in the Roman empire (masonic subversion of European values with gnostic egalitarian materialism)

I always found the Mithraic symbolism look out of place and 'contrived', much like wiccatru and freemasonry are. Read the pdf to find out what's behind the curtain.

Any /fringe/ crossboarders with other juicy details on Mithraism?

Cracked: Vikings Had Progressive Rape Laws

http://www.cracked.com/article_20474_5-shockingly-progressive-ideas-from-primitive-cultures.html

Wicca faggotry incarnate

So I just came across this on /b/…figured you guys would find it entertaining.

I'm no expert, but I've lurked here for a while, and this man/woman/thing/Eldrich Horror seems to be the Wiccatru cancer that you guys occasionally mention incarnated.

Thoughts?

I'm looking for a new religion, one that will let me

>has rich scripture and a literary tradition which I can dive deep into

>God/gods that aren't too clearly defined or personal…more mysterious like Plato's Demiurge

>has good virtuous morals, but values strength over meekness, no arbitrary rules based on pointless customs

>has some sort of meditation/theosis practice of transcendence/enlightenment

>believes in hierarchy not total equality

>allows masturbation (in moderation)

>alows fucking transexuals (in moderation)

>having premarital sex

>experiment with psychaedelic drugs

Does Asatru fit the bill?

I am interested in all european pagan religions, but every new thread i see lately is about a non Germanic one, there are probably other places for that.

Theres a slavic one on the front page, a Hindu one on the second. There are also lots of board promotions, one even being for Islam something all of us probably want destroyed.

I am even more annoyed that there have been two celtic ones within a small period, you aren't going to hear different opinions nor find links to new sources.

Another thing that should be kept to a minimum is people asking if asatru is right for them, as in genetically.

Can we get back to germanic lore please.

What is your opinion on die-hard christian folkish european nationalists such as Codreanu and his Iron Guard movement? Could norse heathens actually work together with such forces for the greater good of the white race or would our (ostensibly) great spiritual differences to them doom any such political undertaking to failure?

Aren't they essentially already pagan in spirit without knowing it? The way the legionnares embraced death during struggle kinda reminds me of how viking warriors looked forward to dying and meeting their kin in Valhalla. A lot of these notions of eternal glory are 100% european, which also gives away the fact that jewish christianity has been slowly europeanized over the centuries.

/asatru/ why choose pleb tier Germanic paganism? Why not Greco-Roman or even Egyptian? Neopaganism is without strong beliefs on things and has no real ideas of rotuals and is unorganized. To say the least its very wishy washy. You need a Zoroaster to organise it. And norse people didnt achieve bearly as much as romans, Greeks, egyptians, carthaginians and Zoroastrians.

What does /asatru/ think of the nofap movement?

Niggers Misrepresenting Heathenry

If you are talking about Asatru with someone and they pull a "hurt durr I watched 'Thor' can I be Asshatru too" or "nice liberal hippy shit", how do you respond? Do you explain things to them, do you sperg out and scream " MY WARRIOR ANCESTORS" or do you turn around and walk away?

General interactions with normies/Christfags and strawmans thread.

EUROPA

>"Virtually all the major genetic components you find in contemporary Europeans are present among the earliest Europeans," said lead study author Eske Willerslev, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Copenhagen in Denmark.

>"I don't think many would have predicted this."

>The scientists discovered that for millennia, Europe may have been home to a so-called "metapopulation" of modern humans — a group of distinct, separate populations that regularly mixed, grew and fragmented.

>The genetic contributions of the earliest Eurasians to modern European populations may not have arrived through a few distinct migrations from Asia to Europe, but instead through gene flow in various directions.

>Indeed, the major components of the modern European genome may date farther back than scientists had thought, all the way to the Upper Paleolithic Era, between 50,000 and 10,000 years ago, the researchers said.

>The fact that there was genetic continuity during this span of time is remarkable because "this period corresponds to the most extreme climate modern human populations ever lived through, particularly pronounced in Europe," Mirazón Lahr told Live Science.

>"For 30,000 years, ice sheets came and went, at one point covering two-thirds of Europe," she said.

https://archive.is/s5C9X

>Here we use genome-wide data from European individuals to investigate these relationships over the past 3,000 years, by looking for long stretches of genome that are shared between pairs of individuals through their inheritance from common genetic ancestors. We quantify this ubiquitous recent common ancestry, showing for instance that even pairs of individuals from opposite ends of Europe share hundreds of genetic common ancestors over this time period.

https://archive.is/ZwQPZ

What is the asatru view on suicide? Not, I emphasize, NOT as a cowardly escape from life's problems but to restore honor or punish yourself for an unforgivable act.

I know some idiot is going to still, having read this, assume it's about escaping something. I'm talking about taking it upon yourself to punish yourself even if you desire to keep living and love life.

Celtic vs Nordic Paganism

Hey /asatru/, new guy here. Can someone summarize the difference between Celtic paganism and asatru for me? I'm about 50% german, 50% Irish and I'm not sure which way I want to go. I'll be doing my own research as well but I just wanted to see if you guys could summarize it easily

Asatru home design

ITT we share our ideas on asatru home furniture and other decorative indoor materials.

What should the inside of an ideal asatru home in the 21st century look like? Which greenpilled objects and room features are a must-have for any heathen?

Discuss, share infos and so on in this thread.

/asatru/ music non metal edition

Pretty open and shut. The other thread is littered with folk metal and I'm sure I'm not the only one who would prefer not to have to dig through it for something decent. So lets have a thread exclusively for real Asatru music, the more traditional the better.

If it sounds like this, it belongs in this thread.

I'll post a what I've got to get us started.

>reading on celtic mithology

>"Lug, the main celtic god, is represented with a spear and a crow"

>mfw

The paralelisms are everywhere, is insane how similar the indoeuropean pagan religions of Europe are.

Hey /asatru/ how do you feel about other european paganism, such as Druidism, the celtic-based religion?

Also, im looking for advise on introducing myself into this philosophy (would you call these new reborns of the old religions, truly religions?) specifically.

Pic related: celt symbols founded in Galiza, a country within the North West of Spain. The second one is one of the most common, the triskele, it can be found in a lot of forms, but this form specifically is really common in Galiza.

is faith necessary to go to Asgard/Valhalla/wherever?

it doesn't seem like it is seeing as "faith through salvation" is an Abrahamic concept originating in early Judaism.

Asatru altars

Political Stance

Saw this one /pol/, and thought it would be interesting what the Pagan majority thought.

http://strawpoll.me/4464944

More about each ideology:http://polparliament.wikia.com/wiki/Parliament_of_/pol/_Wikia

A judeo-christian missionary monk was teaching a bunch of young germanic saxon tribal males on the jewish Old Testament.

"Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Jesus and accept that he is the only god in the universe and has made all wonders come true while Odin himself has not accomplished a single supernatural feat on his own."

At this moment a brave, greenpilled, redpilled, folkish, odinist, tall, muscular and blonde germanic warrior who had served at the legendary battle of the Teotoburg forest and who was favored by the gods of the norse pantheon themselves stood up and held a rock.

"How old is this rock?" he asked.

The arrogant christian missionary monk smirked his judeo-christian monotheistic smile and smugly replied: "6000 years old, you stupid unwashed barbarian pagan. That's how old the bible says the universe is, and the bible is the word of Y-hweh himself."

"Wrong", replied the brave anti-christian pagan germanic warrior. "This rock was shaped when the eternal void of the Ginnungagap was filled with all kinds of third density objects back when the gods of the germanic race planted the roots of Yggdrasil, the world tree holding the very fabric of our physical dimension and everything in the universe together. The unscientific judeo-monotheist assertions of your bible are thus proven utterly and completely wrong."

The christian monk was visibly shaken and dropped his copy of the jewish ten commandments. He stormed out of the Thing assembly, his eyes full of those delicious christian crocodile tears.

The christian monk lost his tenure and was banished from his monastery the next day. He mysteriously lost his life later that year and the coroner found that he died from trying to act out one of his numerous degenerate fetishes long supressed by his celibacy, having abandoned christianity altogether.

The 500 young germanic warriors all applauded and registered at the local anti-christian tribal alliance actively resisting Charlemagne's invasion that day. A raven named "Hugin" flew into the Thing assembly and shed a tear on the pavement. He reminded the students of the necessity of honoring the gods of their ancestors, thus fulfilling the thulean prophecy of a new and cleansed world. The Havamal was read several times, and Woden himself showed up and sent a bunch of lightning bolts into the christian churches right outside the woods, setting them aflame in the process.

Sigurd the dragon slayer watched all of this with great joy, smiling from Valhalla.

Moral Code and How To Revive Paganism In Christian Europe

Hello.

It has come to my attention that most pagan religious documents to this day never really had a moral code, or just had a simple one, that didn't have things such as "defend your folk against semitic religions".

Now, in this age, where there are monotheistic converting cults everywhere, we should ask ourselves the question, IF Europe becomes pagan (hopefully), then what should the moral code look like.

I could imagine an universal code for all pagan religions [excluding Wicca and other new age things, lel, fuck that shit] and we could merge it with today's law, after all, it seems like the World is soon going to be ravaged by another war, and you know that even Christianity rose during violence [the violence that also continued very very long], so it seems like that paganism is hopefully going to emerge, but this time hopefully in a more civilized manner than the christians of the past.

Now to the second topic.

Getting back to paganism in a christian (but not heavy religious) Europe is hard work to do.

All these saints, churches, art, myths, and stories relating to christian content, it is surely a loss of great value when it gets burned down and demolished.

I don't know how to approach this one, though.

Someone have any ideas?

The importance of black, white and red within the norse faith

http://www.odinic-rite.org/main/white-red-black

Is there any reliable information on oldnorse/pagan magic?

Not like wiccanfag shit, more like old norse rites and rituals that our ancestors would of used.

How many other Heathens read Hindu works for reference on how it relates to Western Aryan religion?

You really should try reading the older texts, especially the Rig Veda, before it became corrupted with more Dravidian influence. Its fascinating how much the early Aryans had in common with Europeans but especially Germanics.

Just for an example, Agni, the God of Fire, is said to have 9 mothers, is the whitest of the gods, was born on the edge of the earth in the ocean, has golden teeth, and guards the outlying realms of the gods and channels sacrifices made to them

The resemblance to a certain god played by a nigger in recent films is staggering

Pagan Calender and Torques

I was thinking about how we judge time based on how far away from Jesus' death we are. Do you think that in certain situations (Perhaps one were pagans had large communities) we could use a different way to measure time. How do you think we should measure time, should it be from a certain significant event, if so what do you think that event should be.

Also since i rarely pay the gods any mind, what are all the annual occasions i should drink beer, pour libations (Good mead is too hard to get) and commune with the gods on.

Do you guys think that torques should be used in heathen ceremonies, Germans used them romans sometimes did, but the celts used them like crazy. They are symbols of status, of being a warrior and maybe they were used similarly to heathen arm bands also.

Hrafnkels Saga: A Saga For The Modern White?

> In some varieties of polytheism, it was considered possible to inflict punishment on gods by ceasing to worship them[citation needed]. Thus, Hrafnkell, protagonist of the eponymous Icelandic saga set in the 10th century, as his temple to Freyr is burnt and he is enslaved states that "I think it is folly to have faith in gods", never performing another sacrifice, a position described in the sagas as goðlauss, "godless". Jacob Grimm in his Teutonic Mythology observes that:

>It is remarkable that Old Norse legend occasionally mentions certain men who, turning away in utter disgust and doubt from the heathen faith, placed their reliance on their own strength and virtue. Thus in the Sôlar lioð 17 we read of Vêbogi and Râdey á sjálf sig þau trûðu, "in themselves they trusted".[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misotheism

>The eponymous main character, Hrafnkell, starts out his career as a fearsome duelist and a dedicated worshiper of the god Freyr. After suffering defeat, humiliation, and the destruction of his temple, he becomes an atheist. His character changes and he becomes more peaceful in dealing with others. After gradually rebuilding his power base for several years, he achieves revenge against his enemies and lives out the rest of his life as a powerful and respected chieftain. The saga has been interpreted as the story of a man who arrives at the conclusion that the true basis of power does not lie in the favor of the gods but in the loyalty of one's subordinates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrafnkels_saga

New guy thread #2, we've chosen Asatru

The question I have for today is, what do you think we should be saying about our ancestors that were Christian? For some 1500 years, those who came before us were Christian-

>are those ancestors waiting for us in Valhalla?

>Do they guide us as well?

>Do we venerate them the same as we do our ancient forefathers who followed the Old Gods?

>Are they welcomed with open arms by their Pagan ancestors?

My opinion is that they are kin, and as such they must be welcomed as kin, regardless of how misguided they were- because they were just that, misguided. They acted out of indoctrination and misinformation. But I'm not sure to what degree we should honor them regardless. Did they not betray themselves, the Gods, and their Folk? Forgive me if I'm preaching to the ch- er, warband, here, but I'd like to see if we share a common approach to this

Valkyrie thread? Valkyrie thread!

Hello, /asatru/. I just wanted to let you know that I'm the new board owner of >>>/kind/, and I'd appreciate it if you'd take the time to drop in and say hello. It's not really devoted to the discussion of topics pertaining to spirituality or Nordic tradition, but I think kindness is or should be a virtue valued by all, irrespective of our differences!

Tell us about your day: >>>/kind/346

/kind/ might be getting a Valkyrie for our board-tan >>>/loomis/1151

The New Theme

Defending ourselves

It's clear at this point what we have to do to win; how we can defeat the menace of degeneracy. Break off. We have to be self reliant and have many children living off the land, and refusing to associate with the degeneracy of city life.

Our only obstacle is that the powers that be don't want this. They know that once we get enough of us doing this we'll win, so they stop us. They take our money to support their nihilistic hedon masses. They punish us by taking our children when we refuse to let them be brainwashed. They will not stop unless we make them.

But, you say, how can we possibly go about this? Do we hide in the woods? Do we build our own communities and raise militias to defend them from these aggressors? This brings us to the purpose of this thread.

Discuss your ideas on the solution to fighting back

On the topic of Wizards

So I went over to /fringe/ and read through a few of the threads there. It was interesting, from an outside perspective. But it got me thinking about wizardry in general and, more specifically, seiðr.

From what I've been able to find, seiðr was magick of some kind, usually done by women and men who did it were considered unmanly and violating the natural order (male practitioners wore robes (generally a female clothing item) to advertise that they were violating the natural order in order to use magick). Wikipedia seems to think it was sex magic of some kind, but I've haven't found a hard and fast rule on what it is.

The question I have is this: is the stuff that /fringe/ does considered seiðr? I can't tell, because although it is magick, most of the stuff they do ties in to Eastern practices (lots of chakra stuff and meditation). Or is it just plain old wizardry?

There was a thread up there that asked the same question to the /fringe/ guys, using a quote where Loki insults Odin by saying he is unmanly for practicing seiðr. Their response was to toss the opinion because Loki. Not a very conclusive answer.

inb4 "divide-and-conquer"; I genuinely am curious. This isn't to shit on the /fringe/ guys.

Ancient Norse Alcohol recipe recreated

http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/brewery-recreates-3500-year-old-scandinavian-alcohol-001221

And the brew itself http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/occasional-rarities/kvasir/index.htm

Tree hugger thread

Let's do some sort of community building!

In this ITT thread we share pictures, videos and sound files we made of the local nature. I'd be happy to see some texts accompanying them too. Remember to delete the EXIF Data to avoid any kind of doxxing. Or leave it if you're into that stuff, I won't judge you. I will eventually post some as well, but I can't reach them atm.

Pic related. It's the background of the phone I use to take pictures with.

Asatru/Asatro News

Are the "Giants" of myth, folk tales of neanderthals

Neanderthals were big, they lived in generally colder places than modern humans, they sometimes bred with humans. Do you think that the mythological giants, are Neanderthals, i mean the similarities are there and Humans and neanderthals interacted with each other for a couple thousand years. To me it would make more sense that stories of a real species of different human was exaggerated and changed rather than it being completely mythical.

Off topic there are also folk stories in the islands north west of Australia, about ancient tiny people who were described as mischievous a bit like goblins, there was in fact a unique species of small human found in that area that they would have interacted with a very long time before those stories were told. The same thing could have happened with Neanderthals.

Kind of meta. Close if you don't think it's appropriate admins.

Gentlemen, how do we remove kebab?

Fedoras and ebolite scum are lagging behind as they should, we have no possible chance of exceeding /christian/ as we are now.

/christian/ seems to like shitting up other boards, would this help spread our cause or just make people hate us?

Thought this bit was cool

>If you've been with us any time at all, you know David…or at least, you've seen his great photos and videos of his kindred members over the years. We're proud to have David as our representative in Southern Europe. And we are especially proud that he has written, and published, the first book in Spain dealing with the Asatru awakening!

>Asatru: La llamada de los Dioses del Norte is passionately Folkish and proudly pro-AFA. I had the honor of writing the Introduction. And it has pages and pages of beautiful full-color photographs. Even if you don't speak a word of Spanish, you ought to own this one for its historical value - there will never be another FIRST Spanish book on Asatru!

>inb4

>Spaniards

>White

I say good job to this guy. Hope more people across Europe start awakening.

OY VEY CUCKINGS WENT FULL REVISIONIST

AYY LMAO THERE'S A CHINK ON VIKINGS NOW

NEVERMIND THAT THE VIKINGS NEVER CONTACTED THE CHINESE

NOW WE CAN SUCK THE LIB'S COCK BY ADDING A MINORITY STRONK WOMYN TO THE SHOW

Fuck me, I was willing to give them a second chance…

Third Reich and Paganism

Were the National Socialists trying to revive the Teutonioc pagan traditions in Germany?

From what I have read it seems like there were three possible futures for Germany religiously had they won the war.

Aryanize Christianity so it loses it's jewishness, Reviving the pre-Christian Pagan tradition or a new religion based on the common metahistory of Indo-Eurpeans.

There are many "Christian-NatSoc's" that claim that the NSDAP was a christian party. But completly ignore the easily observable fact that the Third Reich was full of pre-Christian pagan symbolism and pre-Christian traditions and ritalis were being reintroduced into the culture by the National Socialists. Their main symbol was the swastika ffs, an ancient Indo-European sun symbol.

The NSDAP was founded by members of the Thule Society, a theosophical research institute.

So what was the religious agenda for the reich in the long-term?

Walpurgisnacht/May Day

Since this holiday is fast approaching I was doing some research into it. Looking through articles online and even talking to a coworker of mine (who is very knowledgeable about paganism). But I cannot get solid answers about it. Some articles suggest that both have roots in Germanic pagan celebrations. I want to celebrate it just would not know how to go about it. Any info would be appreciated!

New Varg Paganism video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3V-bF5dNNU

Was Hitler christian or pagan?

Was Hitler christian or pagan?

Discuss

Song of the Sun

Decided to post an edited version of a rather obscure and little known Eddaic-like Poem. The original version is a mesh of Christian and pagan themes but I have made a version replacing all direct mentions of Christianity with Heathen references. The themes are still Christian however, especially heaven and Hell, so dont take it literally

related to this thread >>5081

1. Of life and property

a fierce freebooter

despoiled mankind;

over the ways

beset by him

might no one living pass.

2. Alone he ate

most frequently,

no one invited he to his repast;

until weary,

and with failing strength,

a wandering guest

came from the way.

3. In need of drink

that way_worn man,

and hungry feigned to be:

with trembling heart

he seemed to trust

him who had been so evil_minded.

4. Meat and drink

to the weary one he gave,

all with upright heart;

on gods he thought,

the traveller's wants supplied;

for he felt he was an evil_doer.

5. Up stood the guest,

he evil meditated,

he had not been kindly treated;

his sin within him swelled,

he while sleeping murdered

his wary cautious host.

6. The Lord of Spears

he prayed for help,

when being struck he woke;

but he was doomed the sins of him

on himself to take,

whom sackless he had slain.

7. White-armed Valkyries came

from heaven above,

and took to them his soul:

in a life of purity

it shall ever live

with the Lord of the Slain.

*********

8. Riches and health

no one may command,

though all go smoothly with him.

To many that befalls

which they least expect.

No one may command his tranquility.

9. Unnar and Sævaldi

never imagined

that happiness would fall on them,

yet naked they became,

and of all bereft,

and, like wolves, ran to the forest.

*******

10. The force of pleasure

has many a one bewailed.

Cares are often caused by women;

pernicious they become,

although Villi, Ve and Odin

them pure created.

11. United were

Svafud and Skarthedin,

neither might without the other be,

until to frenzy they were driven

for a woman;

she was destined for their perdition.

12. On account of that fair maid,

neither of them cared

for games or joyous days;

no other thing

could they in memory bear

then that bright form.

13. Sad to them were

the gloomy nights,

no sweet sleep might they enjoy:

but from that anguish

rose hate intense

between the faithful friends.

14. Hostile deeds

are in most places

fiercely avenged.

To the holm they went,

for that fair woman,

and each one found his death.

*******

15. Arrogance should no one entertain:

I indeed have seen

that those who follow her,

for the most part,

turn from honor.

16. Rich were both,

Radey and Vebogi,

and thought only of their well_being;

now they sit

and turn their sores

to various hearths.

17. They in themselves confided,

and though themselves alone to be

above all people;

but their lot

Wise Grey Beard was pleased

otherwise to appoint.

18. A life of luxury they led,

in may ways,

and had gold for sport.

Now they are requited,

so that they must walk

between frost and fire.

*********

19. To thy enemies

trust thou never,

although they speak thee fair:

promise them good:

'tis good to have another's injury

as a warning.

20. So it befell

Sörli the upright,

when he placed himself in Vigolf's power;

he confidently trusted him,

his brother's murderer,

but he proved false.

21. Peace to them he granted,

with heart sincere;

they in return promised him gold,

feigned themselves friends.,

while they together drank;

but then came forth their guile.

22. Then afterwards,

on the second day,

when they in Rýgiardal rode,

they with swords wounded him

who sackless was,

and let his life go forth.

23. His corpse they dragged

(on a lonely way,

and cut up piecemeal) into a well,

and would it hide;

but the Hanged God

beheld from Hlidskalf.

24. His soul summoned home

the Lord of Prisoners

into his joy to come;

but the evil doers

will, I ween, late

be from torments called.

II.

25. Do thou pray the Disir

of the ancient songs

to be kind to thee in spirit:

for a week after,

all shall then go happily,

according to thy will.

26. For a deed of ire

that thou has perpetrated,

never atone with evil:

the weeping thou shalt

sooth with benefits:

that is salutary to the soul.

27. On gods a man

shall for good things call,

on they who has mankind created.

Greatly woeful is

every man

who late finds the All Father.

28. To be solicited, we opine,

is with all earnestness

for that which is lacking:

of all things may be destitute

he who for nothing asks:

few heed the wants of the silent.

29. Late I came,

though called betimes,

to the Halls of the Slain;

thitherward I yearn;

for it was promised me,

he who craves it shall of the feast partake.

Liberal wiccans whining about pagan Neofolk

i'm a mutt. i'm italian, polish, ukrainian and english. i have no specific heritage or culture beyond american. i've been struggling to find *idols* to worship and seek guidance, but i have (while they command a great deal of respect) been able to really back the norse pantheon as it's not my blood or heritage, though their morals and such are very worth striving for. i've begun asking the gods for help and guidance, and i'm getting a bit of feedback, but i'm really just asking anyone. whatdo

pic unrelated

Hello /asatru/. I was wondering how all of you conduct yourselves on a daily basis and what standards you adhere to.

eg.

>What do you wear, how to you look, what jobs (if any) do you work? Are there kids in the picture, are you rural or cosmopolitan, did you move in order to be more in touch with your forebears, do you abstain from modern comforts, (deodorant, scented washes, make up, moisturiser, processed foods etc. etc.), do you lift, do you have animals?

>Is meditation on the regular with everyone? Are you celibate?

I'm trying to remodel myself in a series of lifestyle changes to something more inline with a disciplined, traditionalist/nationalist/asatru existence. So I was curious as to how others are going about it.

If anything, I'd really appreciate folks just posting their dress style, whether they're rural (or moved closer to ancestral homelands) and occupation.

Skylda til að þjóð þína.

Í hjarta mínu blóði þjóðar minnar keyrir heitt og tilbúin

Skylda mín er að varðveita þetta land. Andi minn mun ekki hvíla ef ég ekki að gefa mig að varðveita arfleifð mína.

Það er löngu kominn tími bræður mínir. Tala djarflega og hækka rödd þína.

Pride í fólki. Saga þeirra býr á með þér. Mundu og fórnir þeirra verður aldrei gleymt.

Question: Why not try to organize much better?

Hi, guys! I'm not Asatru, but I do have a question. Why don't you- and other Pagan religions- try to organize yourselves more? I mean, it was organized religion that tried to destroy you and were quite successful in converting many peoples, thus shouldn't you guys take this into consideration? I know it sounds retarded, but wouldn't you guys want to fight fire with fire?

No, I did not get the idea from Crusader Kings II

Pic unrelated.

Hey asatru. I know you hate people who think chans are their blog but I need help. I have to do a project for school. This can be pretty much anything but I've already made my choice. I want to build a small reconstruction of irminsul and write a paper about it's significance (Charlemagne cutting it down causing his Germanic allies to turn against him.)

My question is, how do I build it? Do I need a specific type of wood?

Also, if you happen to have an idea that BTFO's mine please let me know

Pagans Against Wicca!

Which sagas and old texts are a good place to start for reading old Asatru lore? And what would you say is the right way to read/interpret them?

I recently read the entire Havamal and was impressed, it's all good advice regarding traveling and handling people who are assholes while still being a good person yourself. What should I read next?

I quickly decided it seems best when you approach it with the mindset of listening to advice of a wise old man by a fire–it's not a set of commands or rules, exactly, like the christfags have, but you would be very foolish not to listen, and remember the advice when you have trouble in your life. Thoughts on this?

Why does hollywood make movies like these? Are they trying to get even more SJW wiccafags to infest folkish redpilled heathenry?

Just another reason to come home white man. Even these motherfuckers know where home is.

http://youtu.be/18tOGUnVwmg

The Pagan's Dilemma

Linguistics

Trolls: Real?

What is your opinion on this /asatru/?

>U.S. Army Adds Heathen and Asatru to Religious Preference List

http://www.norsemyth.org/2015/01/heathens-in-military-army-adds-asatru.html

http://wildhunt.org/2015/01/u-s-army-adds-heathen-and-asatru-to-religious-preference-list.html

Is anyone else here english or anglo saxon genetically?

Is our true ancestors the norse pagans or the druidic pagans?

just saw this interesting documentary on the druids and not sure which more of my ancestors belonged to which religion.

Celtic Paganism

Iceland to build first temple to Norse gods in 1,000 years

I need help

The ancient norse settlements in eastern europe

Official heathen anthem

Practical Asatru Thread

Around Abrahamics; Never Relax

Pronuciation

Theodism and other forms of Anglo-Saxon heathenry

The Ancient Religion was Destroyed and Yours is Just Roleplaying

Chan Culture and the Aryan Spirit

Why we should embrace "LARPers".

hail brothers, I wish to enter Valhallla

Liveability/ political climate of Scandinavian nations?

Groundbreaking of the new Heathen temple

Like my new theme?

How do I into runes

Suggestion

Hermeticism

Odinist Fundraiser

Ôstara