/asatru/ - Asatru / Heathenry / Paganism

>>8429

Thank you for the words.

http://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=SzEG3DLWcvU

>>8429

I believe we should soon take action

>>8460

I feel like "UPG" is the thought-terminating cliche favored by rote reconstructionists who want to treat everyone like children.

I usually hear "LARP" from the weak martyr-god crowd when they feel triggered after seeing real European beliefs.

>>8462

>I feel like "UPG" is the thought-terminating cliche favored by rote reconstructionists who want to treat everyone like children.

To be fair, part of the reason why the "UPG" term came about in the first place was to reel in Wiccan/Wiccatruars/New Agers who were out of control with speculation and made up shit to the detriment of accuracy to the Heathen worldview.

We need to have a way of determining who is a seer and who is not, because there are far too many fools going around claiming to have had UPG with the gods when they had a wet dream about Tom Hiddleston or some bullshit.

who are the "men of the west"? are they the english? they're the westernmost germanics i can think of. or perhaps germanic americans?

>>8476

>>8429

A bit related I have had visions in my dreams (usually when I am drunk) wherein I explain certain Asatru related things to a formless entity. Like one I recall talking about the origins of Easter (Eostre, Ostarra, etc). Another I was explaining what Yggdrasil was and what it's name meant and stuff. I also get visits from dead relatives who give me personal life advice. One time I even asked a question of a relative and that very night I had the answer from said relative.

When I was a baby my mother saw her brother (dead at the time) standing over my crib and looking down at me smiling. So I always felt sensitive to those things. I have seen ghosts before too and heard things talking to me when I was half asleep. It might all be nothing or in my mind but I don't know.

I have performed successful blots to the gods. By successful I meant I felt a presence, had epiphanies, found enlightenment on some things cloudy to me, etc. I even felt rejuvenated the morning after a blot (Had a hurt back awhile back and nothing was helping the pain so I offered a blot to Eir and Frigg and the next morning the pain stopped).

One vision I had was when I was walking home from work I saw the clouds (after a thunderstorm) form into a head of a bearded man. After awhile his face contorted as if he was angry. It changed to eventually looked like a baby with curly hair. Then another cloud drifted in and the image looked like that of a baby holding a serpent in his hand (as if the baby was strangling it) and the serpent was spewing venom in the baby's face. Then the serpent disappeared and the baby had serpent eyes. This was all while I was awake too and this whole thing went on for a span of 20 minutes.

>>8429

That was wonderful to read, thank you for sharing your experience with us. I too feel as though Thor is still guiding or watchful force over many.

>>8477

Your experiences sound similar to mine growing up; I learned words such as 'Seaxna' and 'Irmin', as well as frequently dreaming of and communicating with my ancestors. It seems when I am dreaming/over 'there' I have much more knowledge at my disposal that I am unable to bring back into this world. There I know the names, associations, epithets, places and rituals of many gods and yet upon awaking I remember none of it; only bringing back a word every so often.

I also see things in the clouds; the other day from work I was on the bus and there was the most magnificent sunset. I saw a bearded man with a wide-brimmed hat, leading with a spear. There was also the images of a perfectly symmetrical Irminsul and Mjolnir, along with a great Lady with flowing hair (the way the sun hit it and made it look golden was incredible). This Lady was surrounded by flying women, all seemed to be racing to somewhere. Needless to say, it was a pretty intense journey back home. I was however, very grateful to have been shown such as vision, even if I cannot decipher it.

Then again, I am >>280 so whether you believe I am truly capable of having such experiences is up to you.

>>8479

sorry mongrel but the Christgod would be more fitting for you, honestly.

flee now before you offend the gods

>>8487

Oh yes, her little story about Odin conveniently telling her that its okay shes a halfblood sure is convincing. Im sure it wasnt just real in her mind.

Her existence defiles the memory of our ancestors, her feigned belief in the gods insults them, her own ancestors should be mocked and hated for mixing their blood and defiling their lineage. How can one worship their ancestors when they are worthless, and their blood and struggle cast into the wind, all in vain?

Shes only basing her beliefs on mythology that sounds cool to her, she is no better than a Wiccan. Are you folkish or arent you?

And yeah maybe I cant tell who the gods call to their ranks, but Im pretty sure it isnt half niggers, and I am damn sure that I wont let her into MY ranks.

>>8488

While I respect your opinion, it is difficult for me to ignore her White half. It isn't her fault her parents fucked up.

I would at least give her chance until she gave a more solid reason to be excluded.

>>8495

I agree with >>8496

I don't think that half-bloods have a place anywhere, honestly. They don't fit anywhere because they aren't fully anything. That's why race-mixing has a disastrous effect for the child, because they grow up between two worlds, and choosing either one means turning your back on the other.

>>8488

Odin (if indeed it was him) wasn't giving me a thumbs up as you seem to interpret it. He was simply reminding the man of our shared ancestry and that I shouldn't have been thieved in such a manner.

If you want to claim to understand the plans or intentions of the Aesir then please do so, I would never make such a bold remark myself.

>>8499

I think the mudskin girl was the one making the post there

>>8498

I know the plans and intentions of the Aesir better than you do, walhaz. How many sacrifices have you made? How many visions have you seen? How many times have the gods spoken directly to you?

Odin may have been giving a lesson in common courtesy, assuming you did actually see him, he wasnt saying LE TOLERANCE FOR ALL!!! ONE DROP GERMANIC

>>8487

>I don't think he (>>8479) deserves disdain simply for being "half black". Remember, he's also half-White.

Have some spine, principles. The anon is a half-breed, a nothing. Don't you even know what the memory of the blood means?

>>8501

>>8501

Where do you guys draw the line? I mean being mixed can be anywhere from being 99.9% to .001% and most you wont even know (except by doing a DNA test) if you could be like .001%. Mixed is mixed no matter what. So where do you draw the line? Or are you going to regard people who are 99.9% white and .1% black, jew, arab, jap, etc as mongrels too?

Also do you actually believe that in this day and age that there are people who are guaranteed 100 percent white? I mean like in the last hundred thousand years that your ancestors never bred outside their race?

Not accepting the woman because of a question beyond her hands, when she has stated pretty clear her refusal of her other side seems pretty stupid. Not only she has willingly devouted herself to her Germanic side, but also she has been visited by the Gods. Why her story has less value than the others posted here? As far as we know, all the stories could be false, this is an anonymous imageboard after all.

My point is, her devotion seem real, and we dont have an institution who say who is in and who is out apart from public opinion.

>>8506

>my eyes are blue like the sky, my hair is gold like the wheat, and my skin is white like the snow, flushed with blood like after a battle.

Are you going to deny their religion to Southern Germans, who are known to be more swarthy and brownhaired because of it? At least they speak german and you dont, American.

>>8506

You just outed yourself for being a tool. Yes their are varying degrees of "Mixed" but it does not detract from the fact that even if you are just .0001% mixed your ancestors still did something "dishonorable" as you say. You're in your words still a product of an "abomination of nature".

>Muh blonde hair

>Muh blue eyes

>Muh white skin

I've met jews and mixed people with those traits. They do not necessarily make you "white".

>>8518

> I bet youre half mexican

Projecting much? If anything from the vitriol you constantly spew you seem to be in denial about something. Maybe you're try to make up for some insecurities? Or maybe you're partially mixed yourself and projecting that anger onto others? I do not know but even still most of what you post is not productive.

You seem angry and frustrated but this is /asatru/ not /b/ or /pol/. This edgy shit does not belong here.

>>8520

>you seem to be in denial about something

I think youre the one projecting here boyo, I have much bigger problems in my life than some shitposters ruining my favorite pagan board.

And yes I am slightly mixed, like 5 percent cherokee. never bothered me in the slightest, so your empty attempts at psychoanalysis are null. im content with being part indjun as long as im not part nigger or jew.

you dont know anything I fucking post around here, I've been here much longer than you.

>productive

what productiveness is to come from a debate involving a half nigger claiming to have seen odin? how would you contribute to the conversation? "productive" is turning into one of those meaningless words that people only say when it contributes to their argument, much like tumblr

>offensive

>toxic

>nonproductive

go back to tumblr and make some post about how Hel is racist because it demonizes half black and half white people.

>>8521

Wait so you called me a mongoloid and shit when you're 5% Injun? You know Natives are fucking Asian right? So what makes you better than me? Because you are like 7% less asian than I am? You fucking realize how ridiculous that is?

>>8522

lol I guess I have to repeat myself again, 5 percent mixed does not equal 50 percent mixed and youre fucking mad if you think so.

>>8523

i have no quarrel with you, at least youre not 50 percent nigger.

>>8505

You're right that there's a level of arbitrariness to it - I wouldn't, say, want a 50% non-white partner but wouldn't cry myself to sleep over someone being .1% Lapp, but yes - I do believe that there are 100% white people. I don't know about the last 100,000 years because I'm not sure Europid people are even that old, but I am willing to bet that there are people who are entirely descended from indigenous European Cro-Magnids and later migrations such as the Indo-Europeans with no later African, Asian or native American admixture.

>>8528

Yeah after reading those posts this is what I think is best. But you know what, let them carry on with their delusion because like typical mongrels they're too stubborn to reason with. Hopefully once the West is reconquered a eugenics program will be enforced in which all those with any non-European admixture are castrated and execute those with 5%+ non-European blood including anyone with any Jewish or Negroid blood.

I'll say one more thing, it's uncanny how all these mongrels are so alike. Both Bloodaxe and Odin's Horns anon go by the "hurr my spic friend said I look totally white and I have blue eyes so that makes me a bure Nordic man" line of reasoning, and if they can't use that then suddenly they're all being visited by Odin in their dreams/visions/drug trips.

>>8528

>>8530

Samefag

>Hopefully once the West is reconquered a eugenics program will be enforced in which all those with any non-European admixture are castrated and execute those with 5%+ non-European blood including anyone with any Jewish or Negroid blood.

This wont happen because no one is as edgy as you. And I like how you say "Anyone with more than 5%" which kind of leads me to think you might be mixed but less than 5%. Either that or you put it at 5% out of spite for other boardposters which is silly.

You're an edgy /pol/fag teen who if given a chance to lose your virginity you would not care how mixed the pussy is as long as you can finally get your dick wet. Also you probably either have shit looks or a shit personality because you are clinging to "Muh Racial purity" as if it makes you somehow important. In reality though you are just a bitter virgin.

>>8537

I am not claiming all "purebloods" have an superiority complex. I am claiming that you are clinging to your "heritage" as if it makes you special or better. They only reason someone does this is because they have a shit life. I get it dude you are a failure so you look for something to make you feel special.

You do not have to project that shit here though. So calm your autism.

>One drop rule the only way

For whom? Asatru? Europe? And who is going to implement this policy? You? You claim other people are delusional but you act as if you're Hitler 2.0 going to usher in the fourth Reich. Except for no one is going to listen or follow an uncharismatic shitposting angsty teenage troll.

Hitler fought in a war, the only battles you ever fought were on the internet. Go out, talk to people, get a job, walk through the woods, get a hobby, find a g/f and in 10 years you will realize how idiotic you sound now.

>>8538

>>8539

Are you done with your strawmen? Your impotent anger only signals jealousy of Europeans.

I wasn't even the one you initially attacked on his person. But whatever, I'll keep biting.

Point to me where I am gloating in superiority or aspiring to become the next and more extreme Führer. No shit I am advocating for more harsher measures than the National Socialists in the 30s. More extremes times require more extreme measures to combat them. And guess what? Uncle Adolf wasn't infallible and you can't carboncopy last century politics into the now. And as I already said, Europe and Asatru are inseperable. This is an ethno-religion. And you don't belong in that ethnicity.

But you don't care about any of this anyway. You are a mongrel who opposes the preservation of the European race and the bloodmemory of my ancestors. You just want to roleplay.

>>8540

> And you don't belong in that ethnicity

You do not even know who the fuck I am so nice strawmanning on your part.

>You are a mongrel who opposes the preservation of the European race and the bloodmemory of my ancestors.

You strawman again

And you act like someone whose mixed does not have any European ancestors whatsoever. As if being like only 9/10ths white completely erases their European ancestors/ancestry as if they cease to be. You are exhibiting the "Special Snowflake" syndrome.

Also fighting for people who are already mixed (most of which are minimal at best) is not the same as advocating for further mixing. Is this concept to hard for you to grasp? You just want to nitpick because it makes you feel as if you have some say or control when you don't. Thank fuck no one listens to trolls like you.

>>8542

I judged you to be a mongrel couple of posts ago and you had multiple posts to deny the allegation, which you still haven't done. Your responses especially betray your identity. You are a mongrel.

Being European is not being a special snowflake at all. It's the default position to not be mongrelspawn outside of the Great Melting Pot of America. Nice try accusing of tumblrisms but Inserting horseshoe-theory in the conversation doesn't fly here.

>And you act like someone whose mixed does not have any European ancestors whatsoever.

I already adressed that in my initial post. Accepting mongrels is the first step of racial degeneration that ultimately destroyed many great civilisations of the past. The one leads to the other on the slope of degeneration. Stop moving the goalposts in a circle and just return to whatever inclusive safe space you came from. In r/asatru you can get all the validation you want from roleplaying mongrel peers.

You will never belong and you know it to be true in your heart. You are an advocate of white genocide.

>>8544

"I accuse you of something you must deny it in 2 posts otherwise you are what I accused you of"

When did this rule get established? I never said Europeans are special snowflakes I said you were. You fail at reading comprehension on a basic level. There is no use even talking to you.

>go back to /r/asatru go back to tumblr

Ah yes the reddit/tumblr boogeyman meme.

>You're an advocate to white genocide

Kind of extreme there in your exaggerations.

>Roleplaying

Are you going for the goal of having the most memes in your post?

>Mongrel

You do not even know what a fucking mongrel is kid. You do not even know what a European is or what makes a white person white. All you have is internet memes. You are a sad pathetic special snowflake who wants to cling to your secret club culture to the point of nitpicking who gets to be in even though you have not the power or the say or position to do that.

You are not the board owner you are not the creator of the Asatru religion so you have no power to nitpick members.

Besides the worshiping of ancestors in Asatru is a carry over from animism which was a religion founded by neanderthals. So unless you are 100% neanderthal than you're a fucking mongrel.

>>8544

You're only a small percent neanderthal so you cannot practice an animistic based religion because you are a fucking mongrel.

You're advocating neanderthal genocide because you are mixed.

How can you worship your ancestors when most of them aren't neanderthals? You're fucking mongrel.

One drop rule is the only way if you are not 100% neanderthal you will be castrated and executed.

>>8547

If you are debating a topic it's expected of you to make your position clear. As the topic is self-validating mongrels you should've disclaimed that you are indeed a mongrel trying to validate participation in an ethno-religion. Debating etiquette has nothing to do with reading comprehension, nigger.

>You do not even know what a fucking mongrel is kid

>kid

You are really bad at hiding the fact that I'm hitting a nerve, mongrel. Also:

>mongrel (n.) Look up mongrel at Dictionary.com

> from obsolete mong "mixture," from Old English gemong "mingling" (base of among), from Proto-Germanic *mangjan "to knead together" (see mingle). With pejorative suffix -rel. Meaning "person not of pure race" is from 1540s. As an adjective from 1570s.

>All you have is internet memes. You are a sad pathetic special snowflake who wants to cling to your secret club

I guess shit IQ due to miscegenation inhibits you from recognising the hypocrisy here.

>>8549

>>8547

>Neanderthals

Yet another one of the repeating fallacious arguments out of the mongrel's toolbox. Are you seriously using the apparant genocide of Neanderthals as an argument for a repeat on the European people, just like EdgyAxe did a while ago?! I'm not even going to give that a proper response, you've had enough engagement from me. I'm done following the carrot from goalpost to goalpost. You have shown yourself to be: a mongrel; against a homogenous society; spiteful of celebrating heritage; disdainful towards homogenety; an advocate of genocide out of a selfish need to belong.

Let this be a lesson for the lurkers. This is the face of the mongrel. He doesn't care about anything other than himself. Don't let mongrelspawn shitskins wiggle into your community, it will only lead to degeneration. Remember the 14 words. One drop rule.

If you look White, act White, and fight to protect the White race then you are White.

If you are half Negro then you are not White. It's not my problem to figure out what you are, but you are not White.

>>8551

>Moving goalposts

All I did was respond to each of your shitty points. You keep strawmanning that I am a mongrel yet you know nothing about me. I used the Neanderthal argument to make a satire out of your logic. But it apparently flew way over your head.

You call others edgy but you have the fucking SS symbols. You're also calling for the extermination of mixed peoples which you cannot get more edgier than that.

>Touched a nerve

More projecting since you are the one triggered by "mixed people" practicing a religion. You are just mad because your secret club religion (which you probably just learned about a year ago) is practiced by people you do not like.

I have been practicing Asatru since you were in diapers kiddo you cannot just come around here like "Johnny Come Lately" then make demands and throwing shitfits because no one is letting you be the Racial Purity Czar.

>>8553

^This is the message we should have. This should be Asatru's guidelines on accepting members.

See here this is very reasonable and rational. You will draw more Europeans and White Americans to this mindset then you would calling for mass exterminations too bad the SS idiot does not realize this.

His ilk will end up destroying Germanic paganism internally. His kind will call for a purging of "Non Pure Whites" and we will lose a huge chunk of members. Then the Jews and leftists will come and destroy what is left. They will be what destroys the white race not a dude who is like 5%-15%% non white.

ITT: Stormfags on suicide watch

>>8429

That's an interesting story. I had a sort of revelation once. It wasn't nearly as amazing as yours, though.

>>8479

I can't speak for the Gods or any of the people who regularly post here, but I'm of the opinion that lines should be drawn around culture, not race. Those who can speak a Germanic language with a high degree of fluency are acquainted enough with the culture to appreciate its mythology. For example, you don't need to consult an encyclopedia to determine a 'bad mood' is, although most people don't know that it was once considered part of a person's spirit. Honoring your Ancestors is important, but it seems to met hat you could honor your non-Germanic ancestors while honoring the Germanic Gods.

This gets into a larger topic. Are Gods (be it literally or allegorically) actually responsible for the formation of the world in its present state? The myths state as much. If so, how could you deny that the Gods brought black people into being?

I would go further. The position of racialist Asatruars seems to be that everyone should follow the religion of their culture. As I've indicated, I believe that my culture covers non-white people who speak a Germanic language like English, but let's go by this racialist logic for a moment. Are the Gods of non-Germanic religions at least as responsible for creation/giant terraforming as these non-Germanic Gods, to whom we direct non-white people? Are Gods of any sort even real? Are all Gods simply meaningless abstractions through which we good SJWs can 'express our culture'? If yes, well, fuck you for being an SJW. If not, then maybe – just maybe – could it be that all of these divergent myths from countless cultures are conveying the same fundamental idea about an assortment of Gods creating/presiding over the world? And if that is the case, then why is it necessary to restrict people who sincerely want to worship Thor or Odin from doing so?

I can't believe one random fucker can show up and literally claim to be a half shitskin female literally visited by Odin Himself twice and you guys will take shitskin acceptance as gospel.

Of course that entire side of the "argument" is probably one or two people trolling, but holy shit this board cannot hold itself together. What future does it have?

Who here can honestly think a comment such as

>If you want to claim to understand the plans or intentions of the Aesir then please do so, I would never make such a bold remark myself.

was written with sincerity? As though the same "man with brimmed hat" twice came down across the Bifrost bridge of tolerance itself to defend this one random mongrel with His own honor.

Thicken your skin before you go out defending it.

>>8563

Defending your "culture" means nothing when your blood is tainted and doomed to failure and retardation. The concept of nation concerns both blood (race and genetics) and culture (national identity and history).

Linguistic knowledge does not inherently acquaint someone with the culture. You can teach any developing halfbrain shitskin a European language in a classroom environment. They will only be able to comprehend the basics, but they will know it, and then they will go on to act as their genetics have predisposed them to act and tear down society around them.

Foreign blood inherently brings foreign culture anyways, there are no subhumans that sincerely follow any European folk religion. Even if there were, they would be limited in number, and the inclusion and acceptance of a foreign element in your proximity would lead to your own downfall if you did not react violently against it.

I regularly post here and I think

>>8562 is a special snowflake, but HOLY SHIT REDDIT GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE REEEEE

>>8563

this guy is the only one who has made any sence so far >>8564

>>8562

>TL;DR Stop liking what I like

Sums up your post quite nicely

>>8565

In regards to the reddit comment I myself am not advocating we should open the flood doors and let everyone in. I am not saying Tyrone from down the block should wear a hammer and perform blots not even saying Pablo and Hiro should light a yule log and give thanks to Odin. I am saying in regards to people who are minimally mixed it should not matter. Like an anon says

"if you look white, act white, speak a European language, and fight for the white race then you're white"

That is all I was arguing for. SS dude likes to twist people's words or straight up just put words in people's mouths. Bear in mind though I never seen a grown adult whose has a job and family hold the opinions and beliefs he does (if so they are trailer trash).

>>8564

If you want prevent interracial dating via religion, you need to get into the minds of people who would do such a thing. Who makes up the bulk of these people? Well, those who have been taken in by another religion. That religion is Progressivism. They must be converted. If your religion has things in it which are in direct contradiction to the most basic tenets of that religion, they will not listen.

If you can successfully infect their minds with the religion, they will abandon some aspects of the multicultural faith. They will begin to take pride in their own culture, an idea which is quite alien to all that Progressivism stands for. And if they do that, they will probably want to marry a like-minded person, a person who will most likely be some kind of white.

Start thinking in terms of what strengthens the memeplex. This does not mean that you should simply surrender on controversial thing you believe, but you have to understand when a line of defense is simply untenable.

>>8497

if i was mixed race i would probably move to brazil or something

being 100% white bi-ethnic is pretty hard in itself, but i can get around it by dedicating myself to being irish. if i was half black though, that would be a different story.

>>8573

Yeah half-black is unacceptable. Even 20% mixed is pushing it. I say up to 15% mixed (non-black) would be acceptable but even then you have to look white. If you are black mixed that number is even lower like single digit percentage.

>INB4 I am tumblr/reddit because I am reasonable

tumblr/reddit except all even fags I don't.

>>8570

That's what it sounded like, but I agree with those three rules being the requirement.

>>8571

Has the right idea. It's unrealistic to kill off all of our kin who don't think like we do. Conversion should be the best option.

>>8576

1/8 Jewish was Deutschblütiger under the Nuremberg laws. I would not put up a nithing pole against a group who admitted 7/8 White members, as long as they upheld the usual standards: all members look White, act White, speak a White language and work for the preservation of the White people and culture.

If a group wants to restrict membership to only members of 15/16, or 31/32, or 63/64, or seven or nine generations past or even who requires total blood purity then we must allow them to do that — unopposed, without criticism, and without any move to exclude them from larger regional communities.

A group that admits a half-Negro member is not part of our movement. A group that invites racial and cultural degeneration into our faith is not part of our movement. Again, it's not my problem to figure out where they do belong, but they do not belong with us.

>>8429

sounds like santa claus tbh

>>8588

No one is going to take you seriously and for the people who do well they are idiots. You're even trying to be edgier than Hitler.

If I were to guess you were probably Christian up until a year ago. You probably spent most of your time on /pol/ then someone came along and posted about "Asatru" being the true white /pol/ religion and you hopped aboard because of /pol/ memes. Now you sit here and tell people like myself that I cannot practice Asatru (when I have been doing so for over a decade) because it is only reserved for special snowflakes like yourself. Fuck off.

Honestly though if you seriously got you education from /pol/ (which based on your posting it seems likely) than you are more than just stupid but gullible.

Also you accuse others of being from tumblr when you employ the same tactics as they

>Cannot belong to a group unless you're this

>Cannot have an opinion on such unless you're this

It is so funny how retards like you are just a different side of the same coin as tumblr.

Then you even post photos you got from reddit and tumblr and shitpost them here. So obviously you spend a lot of time on those sites.

>>8588

Lol you seriously want to genocide anyone with any percentage of mixed blood, and then you claim that we support white genocide. Please come to America and kill everyone who is 5 percent cherokee, im sure that will go well.

>>8588

>So as long as Shlomo, Jamal and Elliot are phenotypically white enough and 'fight for the white race' they would be accepted by your standards. What does 'looking white' and 'fight for the white race' mean exactly?

It means that White people collectively are responsible for determining who is White. The most important challenge facing us right now is to retake the White identity from the cultural Marxists and insist that we are the gatekeepers of who is White.

>These are typical tolerant sounding exclamations that have no meaning. They set no boundaries, only a fuzzy line that can be moved and contorted to mean whatever you want.

Subjective standards are standards. You just don't understand them because you have autism. Your heart is in the right place, but your mind is panicking because you are mentally unable to cope with subjective standards. Don't worry. It works.

>This will and has been used by, among others, the kikes to infiltrate and subvert everything in Europe and its diaspora. Greatest Ally has passed as hwhite to a lot for a long time, afterall.

The "act White" bit covers this, of course. But you never even pondered the whole standard, because you went into a blind panic the moment you detected it was not a full-on autistic rigid mathematical objective rule.

You are simply going to have to accept a subjective standard until the quality of racial science catches up. Full stop. Swallow this now and save yourself a lot of stress.

You are asking us to choose an option that does not exist, because of unjustified fears about the best option that does. Suck it the fuck up.

>>8597

Yeah lets all rally with every edgy teen from /pol/ who wants to be hitler 2.0. That will save our religion.

No wonder the christcuck sides with him. He would like to see us divide and conquer internally. Let this be a lesson to all you edgy /pol/ fags even christfucks approve of you trying to decimate the numbers of our religion.

If Germanic tribes of the distant past hated mixed people so fucking much why is there hardly a mention or record of it? All you fuckers have is one small quote from Tacitus which's interpretation is vague and one line about Erp being a "brown bastard" (funny though is them killing Erp in that fucking story was a detriment to them later on when they got fucking killed because Erp was not there). How come Odin in the Havamal does not say "Oh yeah mixed people are abominations kill them" You would think that would be an important detail if the Germanic paganism was so keen on purging racemixers.

Tell me does the Eddas or the Sagas or Tactius point blankly mention anything about Germanic peoples taking mixed peoples and specifically killing them for being mixed? If even that, does it mention if they indiscriminately killed all mixed people even if say they were like 1%-15%?

You literally have no basis for your beliefs other then probably being cucked by a nigger in your personal experience.

Try and fucking purge mixed whites see how many "white Europeans" are left after that. You will ripe for the Muslim horde then you dumb fucking bastards. Every other race already outnumbers us and yet you want to fucking nitpick? Are you suicidal? Only the mind of some 16 year old could possibly think this is a good idea.

But yup when the "white European" population dwindles down by half who will stand with you when China or the Moors come?

This is why Hitler accepted slightly mixed people because he was smart enough to understand that if he gassed anyone in Germany who were slightly mixed then he would have no one fucking left to fight for him.

>>8599

This guy gets it.

>>8599

>If Germanic tribes of the distant past hated mixed people so fucking much why is there hardly a mention or record of it?

Aside from the fact that in those days you'd rarely find Turks and Somali refugees in Proto-Berlin, I'd wager that to the Germans it went without saying that racemixing was abhorrent.

From Tacitus' Germania:

>For my own part, I agree with those who think that the tribes of Germany are free from all taint of intermarriages with foreign nations, and that they appear as a distinct, unmixed race, like none but themselves.

>Every other race already outnumbers us and yet you want to fucking nitpick?

If you knew your history you'd realize that a mixed race is not worth fighting for. Abandon the ideal and in a thousand years our descendants will be shitting in the streets like the Indians.

>>8599

>>8602

Well, 12% is obviously ridiculously high. That's a full-blooded nonwhite great-grandparent.

>>8604

1/8 Ashkenazi Jew is completely different from 1/8 Negroid or Mongoloid. Even full-blooded bible kikes are Caucasoid, and Ashkenazim are only half Hebrew at best.

>>8606

>Takes pride that the christcuck supports him

No one properly responded to your arguments because all you have is conjecture. And you are extremely autistic and it is not like you are going to change your beliefs.

>Half of Whites of European descent aren't mixed

Why do you fools think this shit? When historical record says otherwise? Mongols, Huns, and Moors all came and conquered European lands you think they didn't rape anyone? Look at Southern Italians for fucksakes. Or Southern Slavs you think they got dark features just out of nowhere?

Also you keep calling all mixed people Mongrel and halfbreed when in actually most of the people arguing are minimally mixed at best. You lump in people who are 5% mixed with people who are 75% mixed. I doubt the people who coined the term Mongrel meant it for people who are minimally mixed. They used it primarily for half breeds where it was obvious they were mixed.

>Europeans will stand shoulder to shoulder again at the Hot Gates, smashing the universalist mongrel armies of the greater orient. Making sure that this time there isn't a fifth column of non-Europeans to open the gates of Corduba and Constantinople for the invaders.

You read too many fantasy books kid. Your idealism is a crutch. You wont stand shoulder to shoulder because as I stated there wont be many of you. In America it is a meme that everyone has Cherokee descendants. So you plan on excluding and purging all Americans?

As the other anon stated it is up to white society to dictate whose white you redefining race is the same shit tumblr does. Most people who are not autistic as you sees a white person and categorizes them as white. Even if it comes to light that they are partially mixed they are still regarded as white.

>INB4 the fallacy of half-breeds and light skinned Asians

This is you're only argument. You keep lumping in someone who is like 5% and minimal traits of non-white genes to someone who is half nigger and has white skin but full blown nigger features. Your argument basically is a slippery slope fallacy where you think if we accept 5% mixed people we will have to accept half niggers.

I get it though it is hard for your autism to understand nuance so you just lump in everything together into a black/white perspective. To you there is no middle ground there is no leeway. This even is so obvious when you tell anyone who isn't a /pol/lack to go back to Tumblr. To you 1% mixed is the same as 99% mixed. This is why no one is arguing with you properly because you are literally irrational. There is no reasoning with someone who has no reason.

Previous attempts to argue with you were futile when all you did was attack the other side by shouting "mongrel" into every sentence you could.

>>8606

>When the Scythians returned from patroling their borders with Persian Empire for years, they found that their slaves had racemixed with their women. The Scythians responded by killed every single slave, racetraitor women and mongrel offspring.

They killed them because a slave mated with them. I would do that too regardless of what race they were. Also where do you get this info from? Herodotus? When any historian will tell you take what he says with a grain of salt. He was known to embellish and exaggerate a lot of shit.

> Women would perform mass-suicide if conquered to prevent racemixing.

Haha no you fucking retard. They killed themselves because they did not want to be brutally raped by enemy forces this has nothing to do with race. Japanese nobility did this shit too the enemy forces were other Japs.

>Sparta did the same with their Helots

Helots were slaves and ethnically the same as Spartans retard.

>Germanics didn't even fucking allow inter-marrying outside of the tribes of Germania and held no non-german serfs.

I already addressed this in a previous post. This is due to isolation not standards. As I said that is like saying hillbillies are not mixed because they have standards but in actuality they live in the mountains in isolation and have no other choice but to fuck their cousins.

>Macedonians, outside of the Greek royalty, were prohibited from participating in Hellenic games because they weren't ethnically Greek.

No not ethnically but culturally they were not Greek. You keep confusing culture with race.

>It happened with Sumer, Vedic India, Kemet, Babylon, Persia, Rome, Greece and now you mongrels are advocating it again

Persia was conquered by force, Greece fell from internal bickering (by the way Persians and Greeks were ethnically the same at the time as well), Rome fell from Germanic hordes sacking it internally and externally (because Rome treated them like shit), Sumer fell for agricultural reasons. Babylon was conquered by various Empires throughout it's existence. Babylon was essentially a melting pot to begin with anyway.

None of these places fell from people being partially mixed.

Like your source Herodotus you are known for embellishing and exaggerating as well. This is why everything you say should be taken with a grain of salt.

>>8608

>>8607

pls no bully

>>8602

>>but I bet you are willing to accept him as a beautiful aryan person

>Well, my friend, let's hope you didn't actually place any money with anyone on that bet.

>>>8606

>I understand and appreciate the idea that the slippery slope fallacy isn't as fallacious as people often think it is, that if we allow 1% we may as well allow 99%. However, I just think it doesn't have to be true. We could say "we allow up to 5% non-white admixture", for example, and then have people tug at this and say "oh go on, push it to 10%!" but just the same we could say "no, we allow none" and have people saying "oh no go on, allow up to 5%!". People will cry whatever number is settled upon, I think that as long as a number is settled upon and we REFUSE to be swayed by the tears of anyone on the wrong side of the percentile, all will be fine.

>The "rules" can be as complex as they need to be - ie, we can say "up to 5% and IN ADDITION no ancestors within 4 generations may have mixed with anyone over 5%" or whatever in order to exclude mostly-white people who have a Latino grandparent or whatever, if that's what we want. The thing is, I just think it wrong to exclude people who have been, for example, Finnish for countless generations, for as long as it's been meaningful to be a Finnish person, but have some Asian admixture because let's face it, the "Finns are Mongols lol" meme is great and everything, we can all laugh about it, but EVERY Finn is going to have some Uralic mixture. With this, we can also safely say that many Swedes - and again, not 87.5% Swedes with a half-Chinese immigrant grandparent, but Swedes born to Swedes born to Swedes born to Swedes etc., as far back as can be known, will have some Lapp admixture. Do we cut out all the Germans who have some Slavic, and therefore a small quantity (more than likely) Hunnic mixture? Do we want to leave ourselves with nobody but the Brits, English, Danes and Dutch? How far from any single drop of Hunnic, Lappoid, west Asian, north African, whatever admixture can we afford to go? How many European nations are going to lose the majority of their white populations if we give them a one-drop-rule? I think it's just right that we look at what levels of non-white admixtures are common among the populations of countries like Finland or Ukraine and, based on this, decide on a rule or set of rules. As I said before, whether we say "this much which happens to be above zero" or "this much which happens to be zero", we'll have arguments - we just ignore them, stating that we settled on our rules and they are to be stood by.

>>8619

Damn, tried to post my comment but got some error. Tried it again a minute later and for some reason every paragraph got greentexted - sorry, it's not the nicest thing to read.

>>8619

>>8606

(Just to get you the (you) in case you just quickly check for a reply and don't see one due to) >>8620

(Sorry for the triple post, I'm dumb.)

>>8619

I think we should just judge on a case by case basis. Instead of going off of some rigid rule like "Up to 10%". Just look at the person if he looks white, is culturally white, and speaks a European language, is not an SJW, etc. Now if it stands that the person is part Sub-Saharan African then they should fail under more scrutiny.

>INB4 Passable Tranny comparison

Except you cannot be part male or female. So that comparison is horrible. You cannot be 90% male and 10% female unless you have some birth defect (and that is extremely rare).

>>8623

I think something being quantified can be a good thing, but I think a level of both could be good - a rough phenotypical examination to see what Europid "type" the person falls into as well as a check of recent ancestry and/or genetics. I know that physical anthropology, classifying people as Atlantid or Nordid or whatever is pretty fucking loose and not an exact science (though they are generally a reasonably useful and accurate indicator of roughly where someone's ancestry likely comes from), but that's why I think it should be accompanied by something scientific and quantifiable like a genetic test.

>>8624

I agree to a certain extent. But it should just be case by case basis and up to whatever kindred's (that is involved) discretion. Remember Asatru was religion founded by tribal people. A lot of people on here like to see the whole white race as a single tribe but that is not how it was to the original pagans. I myself am an American and my political beliefs are all about more rights to the states. So naturally I would be more aligned with kindreds being autonomous and have the right to accept members by their own discretion. I am starting to not even care about what SJW Wiccatru fags do anymore. Let them pretend. Other kindreds who are anti-sjw will exist too and probably flourish and prosper whereas Wiccatru fags will probably get tired and move on to the next "fad" anyway. Not that I advocate being silent about their degeneracy though.

>>8625

Yeah I can respect that view, actually. If a tribe/kindred wants to get itself a reputation for being "muddy", then it may. If a tribe/kindred wants to adopt a one-drop-rule, it may. Let whichever groups consider each other "folkish enough" band together and the universalists go and be their own thing on their own.

So it's settled then. A rule allowing in those who are only lightly mixed is probably for the best, but if a kindred wishes to have a one drop rule, that's their business.

>>8588

THIS

DIES

DIT

>>8579

Those 1/8 Jewish Deutschblütige were Ashkenazim Jews though, which is basically White anyway.

What should it be for blacks, that have way more dominant genes? 1/16? 1/32?

The number can't get high enough, because we shouldn't honor some white's treason against their people by accepting their filthy bastard into our ranks, just because that shitskinned mongrel isn't at fault.

The shame lies with the failure of a parent and that's a shame best punished by denying his kid the belonging to his people.

It's not that hard.

>>8587

>>implying santa claus isnt based on norse gods

Which would that be? I know of some slavic god that resembles Santa Claus - and I know of Saint Nicholas. But I can't think of any norse god.

>>8971

Santa = Odin

Sinterklaas in the Netherlands gives children chocolate letters

Odin gives men the runes.

>>8970

The samefag(s) building false consensus are Christcuck trolls. They are not legitimately practicing asatru in the real world, you can bet there are no mongrels identifying with the Germanic gods in their souls. It is inherently a white religion.

>Buying into the 'all americans are injun mutts' meme advanced by some filthy Christcuck universalist

Stop that. White Americans are not mongrelized (yet). Sweden will be mongrelized far before the white portions of the United States are mongrelized.

The focus should not be on geographic boundaries but on belonging to the white race. One drop rule covers any mongrelization whatsoever. Nothing further is necessary.

Polite sage for obvious troll thread.

>hundreds of thousands of whites should be denied their lineage continued because a thousand years after they died one white was a filthy racemixer

lol

>>8992

>Muh feelings

Extinction happens. Choices have consequences. Tragic, awful, unbearable consequences.

Don't be a pussy. If you don't want to go extinct, make sure you raise your children properly and have lots of them.