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0f7904  No.520608[Reply]

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090e38  No.816714



I want to live under the rock you've been under for the last 2 years.

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99a16f  No.491187[Reply]

Didn't see a qtddtot in the catalog, so I'm creating one. I'll start it off with this question. Is sodomy between a man and a woman sinful?

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3bb338  No.816636


>Simply showing up and "shooting straight" is a virtue beyond most people. Don't let someone else effect you

Thanks brother, warm words well received. I'll look it up.


Yeah, plus, it seems the Ecclesiastes book really touches on this. (out of the top of my head)

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c038c2  No.405648[Reply]

27 You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Matthew 5:27-28

19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 1 Corinthians 6:19

8 Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Galatians 6:8

Post your Purity successes/woes/prayer requests/ etc.

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b68fcc  No.816697


The issue is the scars left on your soul are making you feel this way. Get to the bottom of why losing the “streak” makes you feel that way and correct it. It might have nothing to do with lust.

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bc249d  No.508486[Reply]

>What is this thread?

The designated political discussion thread. Christians from all parts of the political spectrum are encouraged to discuss relevant political topics and ideas, as well as ask questions and hopefully recieve answers from all points of view. Anything related to politics that doesn't actively involve the Catholic/Orthodox/Protestant churches should go here, so if a politics thread is deleted, this thread is the reason why.

As a reminder:

All board rules apply to this thread, so keep things civil.

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3d0801  No.816744


> Even the myth of human equality might be found originally in Christianity


>inb4 galatians

Just because we're all brothers that does not make us "equal". Scripture clearly lays out hierarchy in family, in church. There's no "equality" in church hierarchy. As well it stresses "to each his own". Each person was given some tokens. Each person will be judged by what he's been given and what he did with it.

>unnecessarily long post

>filled with baits

>Using an attractive woman on /christian/ to claim attention

3/10 baitposting to get /christian/ to argue about race, national socialism, etc.

Seriously if you want to bait you can do better. For starters do not use the pic related to catch attention. That's an obvious sign of baitposting

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dfad1c  No.353817[Reply]

“But I have prayed for you, that your faith would not fail. And you, when you have turned back, strengthen your brethren.”

Luke 22:32

Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition with thanksgiving, let your requests be known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your thoughts in Christ Jesus.

Philippians 4:6-7

Confess your offences to one another and pray for one another in order to be healed. The insistent prayer of a righteous person is powerfully effective!

James 5:16

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cf2ca9  No.816728

Please pray for my grandfather who is in serious condition in hospital.

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3e0f09  No.816577[Reply]

That I have to beg Jesus to forgive me for being born or I will burn in hell forever?


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c5e31b  No.816672


>t. Doesn't understand Catharism

539a4b  No.816676


Didn't Cathars believe reproduction to be evil?

c5e31b  No.816680


They did, but that is not the same thing as orginal sin. Cathars thought this material plane we live in was a prision by the ebil demiurge. They thought all creation was evil.

539a4b  No.816683


Thanks for the explanation, anon. My doubt arises from OP talking about "forgiveness for being born" - it implies that birth is an evil, doesn't it? For no one can forgive that what is not evil.

b6d1c0  No.816761



The issue is you are viewing sin as evil. Sin is an injury of the soul. When we are born we are born with the curse of Original Sin but at the same time we are also born with the desire to find and be with God.

You are more like a baby bird who injured its wing after being born. By the grace of God the wing was healed but you still carry the scar and it sometimes makes it hard to fly.

This is the reason God made baptism so easy because he realized forcing you to repent for a Sin you had no knowledge of was unfair it is also why a person who never knew God or his teachings but lived a Good life that we would consider Saintly can still enter heaven. Because the Mercy bestowed on us by the death and Ressurection is eternal now and forever.

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ee7332  No.816083[Reply]

Meaning of chapter 33, verse 3 in the book of enoch?

>I saw there heavenly gates opening into heaven; three of them distinctly separated. The northern winds proceeded from them, blowing cold, hail, frost, snow, dew, and rain.

We all know the number 33 and 3, is important to many groups and many different aspects of the bible. From freemasons, to jesus himself. we have the trinity, 3 ways of finding god by asking, seeking, knocking. jesus prayed 3 times before his arrest and was put on the cross at the 3rd hour of the day, died at the 9th hour (3pm). 3 hours of darkness that covered the land. 3 is the number of resurrection. he was dead for 3 days and 3 nights. Just to name a few..

So, now we have the 3rd verse of chapter 33 in the book of enoch, and it references 3 gates to heaven, with all different types of maelstrom associated with them.

What is the meaning /christian/?


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2be880  No.816715

it would be interesting to look up every 33:3 and 3:33 in the bible, although keep in mind there was no chapter/verse numbering originally

fce25e  No.816730


>Book 3

Pharisee fanfiction

ee7332  No.816736


>>alternative gospels





4060b5  No.816742


Why do you do this? Why do you think this has any meaning? Should we also note the meals that we eat 33 times in our lives? Of the 33rd punctuation symbol?

993afa  No.816760


Going by the verses before it and after it. It sounds like a very fancy way of saying winds from the North are cold. If I am correct the Ice Age was ending at about the time Enoch is supposed to have taken place so it would make sense.

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416c3c  No.553707[Reply]

New meme thread because the old one is autosaging, starting with a request: I need the exploitable 8ch logo, have this crop in return

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a783a8  No.816619




He's worth reading regardless of political persasion, but good is a bit of a stretch

a783a8  No.816622


>sabbatai zevi


329dd3  No.816631


who on earth are these lot

b08c51  No.816740

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1df468  No.816759

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78f42e  No.816739[Reply]

About Honor thy father and thy mother. What do we do if our parents for abusive or uncaring?

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74721c  No.816746


What does honoring mean?

75f90d  No.816747


Seems pretty obvious to me. To be subject to them to a reasonable extend, to take care of them and care about them and their souls, to try to make them proud of your behaviour, etc.

It really evades me how anyone could not see something this obvious.

9761b3  No.816750


You would be amazed to the extent of the damage that the internet and the modern education system has done to people.

74721c  No.816757


Okay let's take the example of someone who was abused by their parents and wants to stay away from them. What would be the proper course of action? Never talk to them but send money? Cut all ties but pray for their souls? Visit on Christmas and Easter?

75f90d  No.816758


Get away from the abuse. I would try to get them to repent for the sake of their souls, try to make amends, love them. What is done exactly depends on the case, but I would say those would be the intentions.

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bd5293  No.803959[Reply]

"Witnesses say that when the prince arrived in Athos days after the death of Princess Diana almost seven years ago, it was Ephraim who induced him to join the faith. Closeted in a chamber alone with the abbot, Charles is believed to have made a "spiritual commitment" to Christian Orthodoxy"

>Prince Charles, the heir to the British throne and future head of the Anglican Church, is Ortho

I… what…?

uh, thoughts?

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53f285  No.816646

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> His conversion to Sufism is my only contention with the man


b37304  No.816731


What are the thesis and consideration/conclusions on it in the book? Or are you judging it by its title alone?

53f285  No.816751


Basically shows the ties that Guénon had with Catholics that first were interested in his critique of theosophy, but also that they strongly rejected his metaphysics and even himself became a bit of a persona non grata due to his antirational orientalism.

Also shows his ties with esoteric sects, which are far from being anecdotical but rather intrinsically tied with his philosophical views (Maritain said in 1921, when he was still quite orthodox and not hostile to him, that "Guénon's metaphysics are radically inconciliable with the Catholic Faith".).

If you are interested in world religions and Primordial Revelation from an orthodox Catholic point of view, I'd like to suggest you Wilhelm Schmidt SVD.

If you read French or German, there also is Paul Schebesta SVD (Le sens religieux des primitifs / Ursprung der Religion).

c18702  No.816754


Isn't this the guy who said he should have the title 'defender of the faiths' plural, because 'defender of the faith' was offensive?

031567  No.816756

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908d89  No.816733[Reply]

Hello /christian/, I've been listening to the bible lately on Youtube and I have a couple questions. Specifically, early in the Bible before it gets to Jesus and all that it goes over the names of people and their family lineage in meticulous and one might say excruciating detail. It also goes over numbers for…something? in a chapter specifically named Numbers.

Can someone explain to me why these things were so important to record?

How much relevance does it hold today? Should I just skip to Jesus?

0c50c7  No.816749

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The thing about the Old Testament is that it is not only just a book full of wisdom, but also a historical record of the accounts of the children of Israel. All the names are very important because it traces a lineage. That lineage is very important because God uses it in His prophecy. He promised is King David that a great Redeemer will be hailed from his line (ie Jesus). It's how Israel knows that the person God sent is 100% legit and not some Pretender.

As for the significance of the numbers in the Book of Numbers, it literally is a historical record of everyone in the tribes of Israel.

But please do not skip over the Old Testament it contains valuable information. Skipping over the Old Testament is like making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich without the peanut butter.

908d89  No.816752


>He promised is King David that a great Redeemer will be hailed from his line (ie Jesus).

So Jesus is a decedent of King David?

>But please do not skip over the Old Testament it contains valuable information. Skipping over the Old Testament is like making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich without the peanut butter.

Ok I'll stick with it. I really want to know and understand the Bible and Christianity better and give Faith a real shot but it's hard…it's not written to entertain and I understand that but with so many distractions in our world now who has time for dry flowery language about historical accounts or abstract metaphors?

Anyway thank you for explaining it was something I really wanted to know before continuing my attempt to read/listen to the Bible.

0c50c7  No.816753


> so Jesus is the descendant of King David?

He sure is. The only way Jesus was able to be a part of that lineage is through his Blessed Mother the Virgin Mary.

> I want to give Christianity a shot but it's hard

Jesus never said it was going to be easy, lol.

> with so many distractions in this world who has time for the flowery language in the Bible?

From what I was taught about the Bible especially the Old Testament, is that you should treat it as a sort of meditation literature. You read it and then reflect on your life and how it affects you and how you could conform your life to what is taught in the passages.

Soon enough once you get to the New Testament in Jesus starts talking in parables, you'll understand why God isn't just so direct with everything.

I mean God was direct with everything when he created the laws, but even then their were those in Israel that still disobeyed.

062cc5  No.816755


Matthew opens with the geneaology of Christ tracing all the way back to Abraham "The father of many nations". Following from Genesis, Abraham is the 10th descended from Noah, and Noah himself was the 10th descended from Adam. This makes Christ the ~61st descendant of Adam. It's a point of legitimizing and fulfilling the prophecy in Jeremiah of the Messiah. There are discrepencies between Matthew and Luke in their genealogies, and the reasons are very interesting.

It can be rough to read the old testament, but the books there were chosen because they are cited or referenced at some point in the New Testament except Sirach and the other "extra-canonical", which have been removed despite their reference.

A better method of reading is to start with the New Testament, Reverse Gospel Order (John, Luke, Mark, Matthew) then Acts, then the letters. Then go back and read the History Books of the OT. It will make more sense from a Christian perspective. Studying the Psalms and Proverbs are good too. The prophets are some of the more engaging books of the Old Testament. Jonah and Job are particular favorites.

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857bee  No.811341[Reply]

This might sound silly but is there anything non-religous that brought you back to Christ?

For me it was Solair. Even though he isn't Christian and there's a very high chance that he falls later in-game, there's just something about him that inspired me. His way of being a guiding light in the darkness that surrounds him. It showed me a small taste of how beautiful faith can be.

Did you ever experience something like this? Please note, this is not a rec thread on Christian fiction like Lewis or Tolkien. Just a personal thing that brought you close(r) to faith.

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6f8985  No.816719

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Speaking of anime. Does anyone know of any modern Christian oriented anime recently. If not that, maybe the best up to this point? The newer the better though.

While I'd be more than happy to be the first to say that Japan isn't very pro-Christian in much of their works, but I do feel that we should compile and promote Christian Japanese or Christian friendly Japanese works where we can to further promote future works to go down that path.

(image related sort of but I don't know where it came from, just found it on google search…)

eac107  No.816720


The best you can hope for are neutral spiritual themes. There isn't really much real Christianity in Anime. There are some examples of some seriously powerful spiritual themes making a neutral use of other religions, even for a Cathbro.

ecb270  No.816729


Vatican Miracle Examiner.

95b22f  No.816737


Implied male homosexual relationships everywhere, including between the two main characters.

98fce3  No.816748


The Virgin Mary is Watching

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8479e9  No.816116[Reply]

Why did God create atheists? Sure you can say that the innate desire to worship, idolize, or put your faith into someone or something that everyone has if they are honest with themselves or have enough self-awareness and that therefore there are only theists and antitheists but why would He let humans utter words, messages, or thoughts that expresses “I don’t believe in God” or “God doesn’t exists”?

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e7a7bd  No.816163

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God doesn't create atheists. Atheists create other atheists like sodomites create other sodomites.

52cc73  No.816732

Because God wanted to create reprobates for work on Sundays

278f69  No.816734

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>Atheists create other atheists

who then created the first atheist?

bdbcaa  No.816738


Adam and Eve by disobedience to God; they had one job…

98f2e8  No.816745



Technically Satan did.

Adam and Eve may have rebelled but they didn't believe that God didn't exist.

Satan is the one that put the seed into the minds of humanists and rationalists to make them think that God doesn't exist.

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e7998d  No.816665[Reply]

>be me

>converted to Orthodox Christianity

>try to honor my atheist mother and lukewarm father but really just want to withdraw from them

>catechism says avoid association with atheists

What to do? Please let’s try to avoid denominational issues, concentrate on the issue.

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2ce47d  No.816710

boomers will know they have failed when their sons start larping as tradslavs and/or women.

c4f422  No.816722

Honestly, it'd reflect better on us Catholics if we gave sincere advice rather than mocking this poor lad. Even many Catholic saints advise us to not surround ourselves with those who can steer us into sin and blasphemy. For example someone with SSA is called to move on from his same sex friends that regard him sexually and keep tempting his heart.

On the other hand we're also to honor mother and father, though Christ comes first.

Anyhow, it's far better to be Orthodox than any other non-Catholic denom, even if the Orthodox wouldn't say the same about the Catholics.

ea9f6b  No.816725






go see a priest or a doctor

bb18f0  No.816727

This thread proves how despicable online Catholics are; thank God I’m Catholic even with these people being so uncharitable and uncomfortable to be around…

OP, like >>816722 wrote, pray for them, maybe talk to them, but don’t stay too close as to be led astray; I suffer from SSA, and recently I had to quit a friendship because of how the sexual tension was getting out of hand between this friend and me. Now I shall go to confession and then pray for him and my heart to be safe from such temptations.

b5526c  No.816735

>catechism says avoid association with atheists

doesn't mean your family. curb your autism man

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53d98a  No.816274[Reply]

Can God heal me of my depression if others pray for me? I don’t think my depression has much to do with circumstances as I’ve done everything I can to be healthy, but more of my brain.

Would you pray for me?

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a5690d  No.816516


The intro poem for some of the mood

A cloud was on the mind of men, and wailing went the weather,

Yea, a sick cloud upon the soul when we were boys together.

Science announced nonentity and art admired decay;

The world was old and ended: but you and I were gay;

Round us in antic order their crippled vices came—

Lust that had lost its laughter, fear that had lost its shame.

Like the white lock of Whistler, that lit our aimless gloom,

Men showed their own white feather as proudly as a plume.

Life was a fly that faded, and death a drone that stung;

The world was very old indeed when you and I were young.

They twisted even decent sin to shapes not to be named:

Men were ashamed of honour; but we were not ashamed.

Weak if we were and foolish, not thus we failed, not thus;

When that black Baal blocked the heavens he had no hymns from us

Children we were—our forts of sand were even as weak as we,

High as they went we piled them up to break that bitter sea.

Fools as we were in motley, all jangling and absurd,

When all church bells were silent our cap and bells were heard.

Not all unhelped we held the fort, our tiny flags unfurled;

Some giants laboured in that cloud to lift it from the world.

I find again the book we found, I feel the hour that flings

Far out of fish-shaped Paumanok some cry of cleaner things;

And the Green Carnation withered, as in forest fires that pass,

Roared in the wind of all the world ten million leaves of grass;

Or sane and sweet and sudden as a bird sings in thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

b4c017  No.816525

Ask for St. Dymphna to pray for you, she has helped me a lot with depression and anxiety.


c20639  No.816549


I'll pray for you fren

4c560c  No.816575

The answer won't come from a chemical, my friend. I used antidepressants for years and they just made things worse.

Under a pastor's care, and maybe with the aid of a psychologist (read: no medication prescribed) you can overcome your depression.

Doing things with a large group of people, whether or not you have much in common with them, is key. You can find this in church, and will be accepted regardless of who you are.

I kicked depression by avoiding drugs and alcohool, spending less time a lone in front of a screen (video games, computer, etc), going outside more (beaches, woods) and spending more time with my family.

There are many ways to beat this OP, you have my prayers. I know you can do this.


>Can God heal me of my depression if others pray for me? I don’t think my depression has much to do with circumstances as I’ve done everything I can to be healthy, but more of my brain.

bdeea4  No.816726

Was reading prayers today and this one made me think of you


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