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0f7904 No.520608[Reply]

Glory to God in the highest!

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2fa589 No.560512

>>560510

Staff here really don't wanna talk about it. They're rather you just drop the subject.




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dfad1c No.353817[Reply]

“But I have prayed for you, that your faith would not fail. And you, when you have turned back, strengthen your brethren.”

Luke 22:32

Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition with thanksgiving, let your requests be known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your thoughts in Christ Jesus.

Philippians 4:6-7

Confess your offences to one another and pray for one another in order to be healed. The insistent prayer of a righteous person is powerfully effective!

James 5:16

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a9aefa No.559712

Please pray for me. I am just another anon; just another human. I do have free will though. Please pray that I bend my will to assist others. This life is not easy.




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a8133a No.560284[Reply]

How do you all view listening to rap? Is it a sin to listen to the stuff talking about sinful things or would that be an example of over scrupulousness?

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784e0f No.560533

Delete all my nigger music last night because it's degenerate. Gregorian chant only for now on.


784e0f No.560536

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Deleted all my nigger music once I discovered Gregorian chant.


ce309d No.560548

>>560284

Rap doesn't inherently need to talk about sinful things. However, I consider rap to be horrible from the musical perspective.

I myself am not comfortable with listening to black metal anymore. Some (much) of that stuff is absolutely Satanic. It may have opened a door to demons.

I don't think music needs to be perfectly orthodox to be acceptable. I know that I myself was helped to salvation by listening to an album from a band that doesn't even try to be gospel, just thoughtful and literate. You can take the songs as fictional stories.


5ea4aa No.560555

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Any music that's about fucking mothers, killing brothers and smothering babies is shit and harmful to your soul. Use common sense.


1cd128 No.560556

It's the content that matters. Rap can be just as degenerate as katy perrys sex glorification.

However if you're in the US, 99% of rap is degenerate bix nood brainwashing. Rap is used as a canvas to push hedonistic drug using nigger lifestyles to already doomed minorities and not yet doomed middle class folks. It's a subversive industry wide push orchestrated by the zio media to further push the masses into barbarism, drugs and destroy the family.

Look up death row records and their kike and cia connections. Same goes for commercial pop. Look at youtube videos of the top songs for each generation and notice the trend: the browning of american, increased drugs and promiscuity. This doesn't even touch the outright luciferian symbolism and ideals being subtly pushed in corporate music. It's also interesting to note the push for more and more trance like music that appeals to base desires instead of reaching higher planes of thought.

While what you eat may not defile you, keeping on eating it once you know it's bad will only have negative effects. Therefore, modern rap and Christianity don't mix.




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3a3bcf No.560084[Reply]

How do I read the bible correctly?

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16ede0 No.560405

>>560399

>I already said the Greek translation of the complete Old Testament is from Origen.

[citation needed]

>If so, then Isaiah 59:21 is false. It says the words that were in Isaiah's mouth will never depart.

It didn't depart. It's just NOT in the Masoretic Text.


8710e6 No.560414

>>560405

>[citation needed]

You want a citation, just so you can derail the conversation to make it all about what the ((scholars)) think. Well, here is their own admission for you:

>Relatively complete manuscripts of the LXX postdate the Hexaplar rescension and include the Codex Vaticanus from the 4th century CE and the Codex Alexandrinus of the 5th century.

>the Hexaplar rescension

See? That's Origen.

>It didn't depart. It's just NOT in the Masoretic Text.

It's not in the Greek Septuagint. That's a Greek translation. So you have to believe it's somewhere or just be ignorant of the truths of the Bible. That's why we use the original Hebrew text and not a Greek translation made by a mystical bunch of immortal infallible Jews or by Origen. Either way.


16ede0 No.560421

>>560414

>Relatively complete

Of course the Apostles didn't have the full LXX. The original Septuagint made by the mythical 70 jewish elders were only the Pentateuch. Then the rest of the Old Testament was made by time and the Aposltes used a incomplete version to quote in Greek. Then it was finished by Christians too.

That's really different from the Masoretic Text that the KJV uses as basis of its translation. The Masoretic Text was published on the 10th century by Talmudist Jews aka the Synagogue of Satan.


8710e6 No.560429

>>560421

>Then the rest of the Old Testament was made by time and the Aposltes used a incomplete version to quote in Greek.

Or someone use the Apostles' paraphrases directly in their Greek Old Testament translations.

>The Masoretic Text was published on the 10th century by Talmudist Jews aka the Synagogue of Satan.

We Christians have always had the original Old Testament. It even says so in 2 Timothy. It's incapable of being lost, and all that is left to do once you find it is to have it be communicated. Either by tongues like what happened on the day of Pentecost or just by one man to another through preaching if they can't read, or just by regular translators with no agenda looking at the real manuscripts if you have a printing press ready. The problem today is that translators have an agenda and they are looking at manmade edited manuscripts that they found in 1870. The NIV and other versions are based on basically the Jefferson Bible of Alexandria, so it doesn't matter what their translation technique is, the result will be wrong.

So in closing, the Masoretes did NOT have the only copy of the Old Testament. It has always been in our possession, it's only known as the MT to scholars today because of the fact that's the oldest source they could find. This could easily change with new findings, such as the Isaiah found in Qumran, but we were never relying on the oldest copy we could find anyway but rather on the fact that there has only ever been one unchanging word of God that will last to all generations. So just because it's called the MT by scholars doesn't mean they were the ones who wrote it. Because then you'd have to say there was no surviving Hebrew Old Testament. It actually has a common source with the Scriptures as mentioned in 2 Timothy, and at the time the Masoretic text was released there were many other identical copies around already. And also I'm pretty sure the Masoretes were Karaites, not that this matters.


9037a1 No.560554

>>560429

>the Masoretes did NOT have the only copy of the Old Testament. It has always been in our possession

The only copy of the OT that has been preserved by any Apostolic Church is the LXX. You speak of scholars "not being able to find" the Hebrew OT texts preserved by the Church, like their collective efforts were looking through a library for 15 minutes, like there are dozens Hebrew OT manuscripts languishing around unseen in the possession of churches. You cannot find that which does not exist, and we have uncovered literally thousands of biblical manuscripts with no whiff of Hebrew copies in there. There is furthermore no mention of this supposed continued usage of the Hebrew in any document otherwise. Your assertion beggars belief.




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3fa321 No.559633[Reply]

This phenomenon is growing in all denominations. Is this a good thing? Is it OK? Can it be done in an orthodox way?

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ee49d2 No.560136

>>560057

recent convert perhaps?


607857 No.560138

>>560136

Not everyone who isn't crazy about Rose is a new convert


49dd6f No.560140

>>559774

"Charismatic revivalist" perhaps?


ee49d2 No.560182

>>560138

ok, explains a lot. thanks


0d46c0 No.560553

>>559835

there's also a passage where its claimed that people sometimes speak in the tongue of angels. But you're correct, without an interpreter you're supposed to keep it to yourself




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a9cfc3 No.555916[Reply]

This is literally what a Muslim wrote to me as we were debating over the Trinity and the divinity of Christ,

"None of this makes any sense! Christians do not make sense in anyway. If they're separate, then they're 3 gods! If they're the same, then Jesus is his own dad! WHICH IS IT!? ARE THEY 3 GODS OR ARE THEY THE SAME!? You keep telling me Jesus is God and so is the Father and I say, "So that means Jesus is his own dad?" And then you say, "No! They are not the same" and I say, "So 3 gods?" and you say, "No they are the same the Father is the Son." WHAT! THAT LITERALLY MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE! CHRISTIANS MAKE NO SENSE!"

I respond, we go back and forth a little more, and then he writes this in response to me,

"WHAT! SO NOW YOU ARE SAYING THEY ARE THE SAME!? SO THE FATHER IS THE SON! BUT YOU ALSO JUST TOLD ME SOME POSTS BACK THAT THEY ARE DIFFERENT GODS! WHAT THE FUCK THIS MAKES NO SENSE! You see, Islam is simple because ALLAH IS SIMPLE! HE IS ONE! HE IS NOT HIS OWN SON NOR DOES HE HAVE A SON LIKE CHRISTIANS SAY!"

Are Muslims just too stupid to get Christianity? Is there any hope then for their conversion?

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2093d6 No.560495

THE KIKES HAVE CORRUPTED ALL HOLY SCRIPTURES


1a60dc No.560523

>>556364

>mudslime

>accusing anyone of a fallacy

kek


1ac0ed No.560524

>>556320

There are Christians who disagree with the catholic divinity of of Mary, as well as saints. Also that first greentexts sounds like a loaded question while completely ignoring the trinity.

>timothy 6:10 & Ecclesiastes

Money itself isn't evil, it's how it's used that can be evil.

>remember jesus needs all you money

This is teenage atheist tier.

>>556364

Why even bother replying with such a laughably weak 'rebuttal'.

>>560495

Prove it.


6df4b3 No.560543

I've given up on Muslims. It really doesn't take too much thinking to see Islam is just your generic "the Bible was corrupted just after Jesus died and my prophet has the real interpretation" religion. If you don't leave it on your own will, then you're either too retarded to be reasoned with or staying in it simply because it's convenient to your current situation.


5a1124 No.560552

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>and Allah gave Moses and the prophets revelations and they were corrupted

>and Allah gave Jesus the Injil and it too was corrupted extremely fast and lost to history

What kind of God lets his revelations get corrupted/lost ?




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c038c2 No.405648[Reply]

27 You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Matthew 5:27-28

19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 1 Corinthians 6:19

8 Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Galatians 6:8

Post your NoFap successes/woes/prayer requests/ etc.

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762627 No.560334

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>>560332

>My mysogny is the only fuel that powers me now.

Have you tried asking the Holy Spirit for help instead of destroying your mind?


a1f19e No.560338

>>560334

. Luther observed that "Women … have but small and narrow chests, and broad hips, to the end that they should remain at home, sit still, keep house, and bear and bring up children".

In the words of the Anglican marriage service a married couple were one flesh, and the canon lawyers held them to be a single person: erunt animae duae in carne una.

The very being or legal existence of the woman is suspended during the marriage, or at least is incorporated and consolidated into that of her husband


a1f19e No.560343

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>>560319

Is it true or or is it a lie that you need 18 months for complete recovery??

i fapepd for 7 years now im 14 months clean.

How much until im fully reborn?


6862d8 No.560502

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>>560319

>unironically posts freemasonry


baa6ec No.560551

>>558982

>I have been persuading others along the way to drop porn and fapping altogether. Provided evidences, researches, and arguments behind it. Proved fruitless this time.

You are asking to much. You expect people to become sinless over night.

You will be much more successful with your testimonials, if you focus on porn only and don't even touch the subject of masturbation.

People need to start somewhere and do baby steps towards less sin.

So start with attacking the everlasting stream of sin from the Internet and what it does to the brain.

To get somewhere people need to build a new habit, which takes at least 90 days. That first habit is to stop visiting Internet porn sites. Not stopping porn and masturbation over night altogether.

Then you look what is left of porn consumption and turn it towards more modest material. Encourage people to look at dressed women instead of naked ones for example. Over time the brain adjusts and gets disgusted by the really degenerate stuff you find everywhere now.

At some point you got rid of porn completely, you can now go after masturbation, but in many cases people then give it up on their own.




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2d67c3 No.558827[Reply]

Should eating soy be a sin? Soy turn men into faggots.

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d8c82d No.560493

>>560121

You have low IQ do you? How can you interpret my statements like that? I asked "Why God give people a Disneyland of Flowing Milk to lactose intolerant people?" It simply means that your God is a biased being. You guys are so butthurt because you yourselves failed to deliver a satisfying answer to that flaw.

I also believe that there is God up there. But He is NOT what you think he is. The one who have a flawed understanding about His Grand Scheme are you guys. So suck it up. You guys are full of bullshit but you all come here and act all mighty and saintly as if you know something but you're not. "Soy turns men into faggots." Lel. What a stupid crap. So what if soy turns men into faggots? Who created soy? Who created gays? Are you gonna blame the Creator for that? Assholes.


f88e7f No.560497

>>560493

The people God gave the land of milk and honey to, the Israelites, were not lactose intolerant. I suppose if he'd chosen a people who were lactose intolerant then he would have called it the land of wine or figs and honey or something instead. God is not biased, He is no respecter of persons. He chose a people not because they were better than anyone else but so that his son could come out from them and offer salvation to the whole world.

Milk is a good food if your body can tolerate it. If not there are plenty of other good foods around. Your points are incoherent. God created soy, that doesn't mean it's an ideal food source. Certainly the man-made pseudofoods like make meats and milks made using soy are not anything you would find in nature.


e5052e No.560520

>>560123

>minion pyjama

That's how you know that kid is going to have a lot of spiritual waste in his upbringing.


3f02b9 No.560547

>>558839

>some weird heathens do it so it must be ok


ab6be2 No.560550

>>560493

>Why God give people a Disneyland of Flowing Milk to lactose intolerant people?

When they disobeyed God they were punished and it became a land of milk, when they obeyed God it became a land of honey.




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9a5311 No.559213[Reply]

What kind of stuff do you keep on you regularly /christian/?

Pic related is mine.

Pistol is a Beretta 92S w/ shoulder holster, and phone is Moto X 2nd gen.

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c91d75 No.559765

>>559752

Thank you so much for the conversation. It means a lot to me. All of the hammer owners and the knife owners and the gun owners all represent.


c91d75 No.559767

>>559752

Also, good night to you who are one or two times zones behind me. And peace be with you, And peace be with all the anons who are reading this. Good night. It is late here on my coast.


9a5311 No.559830

>>559651

>>559661

There is literally nothing wrong with owning, and carrying a gun.

Neither is there anything wrong with using it to protect yourself, and there is especially nothing wrong with using it to protect others. That would be the charitable thing to do.

Luke 22:36, 38 "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one… And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough."


35ade4 No.560196

>>559722

>Pic

Now that's just a load of baloney.

Okay I'll leave….don't ban me pls.


ab29b4 No.560549

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>>559233

>>559367

>>559427

>>559455

>>559651

>>559696

>>559723

>Be me, puny soyboi

>Doesnt own any guns

>at home in my nice safe and secure house

>Just shitposting on the Chan arguing about how guns are ebil

>Just then Giga Nigga breaks down the door!

>"EH YO CRACKA ASS MUHFUGGA GIMME YO SHIT OR IMA BEAT THE FUCK OUTTA YO ASS"

>Oh My Goodness.jpeg

>I quickly think of an idea that involves pacifism and non violence.

>I throw the KFC chicken leg out the window in hopes he would go after it

>He doesnt.

>He leaps toward me

>I try to escape, but my heavy soy diet has made my legs unable to have normal muscles in order to run

>He then proceeds to pick me up, rip my entire body in half

>He starts to pound my face in so bad it starts to look like one of the Bogandoff Brothers

>He then steals all my electronics and the leftover kfc bucket i ate from

>Leaps out the window, runs into the darkness never to be seen again

If only you hPost too long. Click here to view the full text.




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c512fa No.551254[Reply]

Hey /christian/

Weird thing just happened to me, I was walking down the street after buying some groceries and a man, Alex, walked up to me and engaged me in conversation. Saying he was a "Theologician" and they were putting together a bible study in the area.

I've been praying for a bible study near me because I don't drive and heard him out; he said he noticed my shirt (pic related) and so he immediately started in about how there are places where science and the bible agree. I nodded, and he continued on saying: "Did you know that there is actually a God the Mother?"

I raised my eyebrow a little bit at this since that certainly sounds like heresy to me. But he glossed over that interesting point and kept talking for a bit, assuming I was going to walk away. We exchanged numbers so that he can contact me for one of these meet ups, but after getting home I googled for "God the Mother" and found the "World Mission Church of God" which had this page about the mother thing: http://english.watv.org/truth/truth_life/content_mother.asp

Reading through it, I guess you can suck at english and read genesis's "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them" as implying male and female referrred to God, but it's clear to me that we refer to God as he here and also that the semi-colon seperates the sentence pretty well and isn't the way that these people seem to think.

So /christian/ if this person does contact me, should I go? They sound heretical, especially since they think Christ came again as this random Korean man. I'm not a great arguer in person and I don't know if I could steer them back to the path. I also hope that this post isn't taken in mean-spirit or as attacking this particular church, I've just never heard about it and am hoping you all can shed some light

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c512fa No.551548

>>551489

>I can't believe I'm seeing this on /christian/ of all places

I don't understand, why would I not ask my brothers and sisters in Christ about someone claiming there's a God the mother. It's not like /b/ or somewhere else is going to provide me with anything but ridicule or terrible advice. Not that /christian/ is free from meanspirited people who make incorrect assumptions about lifestyle choices case in point: >>551515 but I'm more likely to get a solid answer here than anywhere else, or heck, if they consider themselves Christians there might even be one here to debate and find out more information about.

>>551359

I'm not sure I am. A while ago I got into a conversation with someone I live with about God and whatnot and I didn't do a very good job of it I think, then that happened again with another friend. I'm not an aggressive person and while I'm good at some things, arguing about God isn't one of them. If God did call me to do it he'd give me the words of course, but so far I have yet to win any souls for the Lord as far as I know.

>>551491

>They're basically the Jehovah Witnesses of South Korea

yikes. I've only met Witnesses a few times, but that was just in school and they weren't trying to bother me, I had more run in's with Mormons growing up, though since I saw them nearly everyday on my way to school or back they left me alone after I turned them down a number of times.

Anyway >>551525

That's a good verse to have on reference if I run into them again. When I was walking home I was thinking to myself: God made Eve from Adam's rib, he molded her, but it wPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


e2d17f No.551624

>>551548

>I don't understand, why would I not ask my brothers and sisters in Christ about someone claiming there's a God the mother

That wasn't directed at you, it was more of an exasperation of how prevalent that cult really is because many thought it was only contained in certain parts of Seoul, South Korea.


c512fa No.551775

>>551624

Ah, apologies anon. Hard to reading comprehension sometimes


40eed8 No.552067

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>>551494

No one said that CS not an actual field, but it is not a science in the same sense that physics, biology or chemistry are. And you don't need a computer to practice it (although it does come in handy obviously). A better term would have been "logic engineering". That GIF is from the SIPC lectures given at MIT. Every computer scientist should read SICP (and do the exercises! all of them) and watch the lectures.

< Better typeset PDF version:

https://sicpebook.wordpress.com/

< Lectures playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Op3QLzMgSY&list=PLE18841CABEA24090

Sage for off-topic


068949 No.560546

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Alright, so I don't know where to go exactly to talk about this, but awhile back a friend of mine fell into this cult when a recruiter approached him in college. The last time we talked things were fine, we bullshitted around and just talked about whatever came to mind, but 2 or 3 days after he heard about this cult he was practically cackling. He became an entirely different person, his mannerisms changed completely- he used to be social and open, he would make jokes here and there, but afterwards it's like he lost his social skills even the way he spoke was completely different. He was such an entirely different person that even his own family noticed it, and he tried to recruit his younger brother who was able to see past that bullshit.

He's been trying to get me to join his religion, and me personally I'm not a Christian but I don't know where else I can talk about this particular cult.

I don't have a photographic memory, but from what I gathered talking to him and having my friend's brother going to one of their bible studies (while having me listen in through his phone in secret) they seem to believe that the Bible is one hundred percent correct. There are predictions that have come true and will come true, I remember the recruiter using Cyrus the Great as an example for a prediction coming true. The recruiter also used the Book of Job to prove that there was some sort of connection with science and shit like that. My friend also believes that the second coming of Christ is just around the corner and all they have to do now is spread their religion around the world so everyone can hear it for it to finally happen. He used the fig tree and linked me this video to show me: http://uccspace.net/ucc/content.asp?idx=203&lang=2&category=J

All churches that have Sunday as the day of rest are wrong and are leading people astray since the holy day is supposed to be on Saturday. From what I remember talking to him not too long ago, the world is like a prison and we are all paying for our sins. We all committed horrible crimes before coming here, our memories were wiped but we all have the chance to hear the truth and reach salvation, aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.




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4b6fdd No.560397[Reply]

What method do Calvinists and Baptists use to read the kjv bible, sola scriptura, yet they arrive at totally contradicting conclusions to each other?

Is it a problem of legalism?

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2912fd No.560488

>>560402

this tbqh


badfa9 No.560528

>>560425

>>560478

>No arguments whatsoever

Now that's just weak. It's like the foundation of your faith is completely subjective.


89b812 No.560530

>>560528

Tu quoque is a type of argument, but it has its limitations. Mainly the fact that it doesn't directly address the question (my post does though), instead it raises the question of why the OP did not first think to ask himself whether his own church was subject to the very same problems that he projects onto others.


404819 No.560539

It's a problem of "interpret things your own way :) " mentality. The Bible has no guide on how to interpret it, so when you have sola scriptura you can pretend certain things mean something completely different and change the basic theology of it completely. Notice also that Mormons and Jehovah's Witness use the Bible. This is why there must be some authority to interpret it.

>>560425

>totally contradicting conclusions

except this is false, as catholic and orthodox teaching are more or less identical to each other, especially in serious matters, not so much in minor cultural matters.


9867c1 No.560545

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>>560530

>hehe "uh but others do it too"

>>560470




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9a1e70 No.549102[Reply]

Honestly, modern women are one of my top 5 sources of major depression and anger. It's hard living in a spiritual wasteland, not to mention lonesome. Post kind, modest, Christian girls.

Also, people say "find a nice girl at church" but what if your church doesn't have any grills? (family chuch)

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e6919f No.560482

waiting till marriage and then finally being able to bust inside is gonna be lit. i cant wait


e6919f No.560483

>>558679

hes dead by then so i dont think he cares


1da5d9 No.560537

I literally feel too impure/imperfect and nowhere near good enough for a Christian gf. I've been getting desperate lately so I've ended up trying to start things with really, really bad secular women (on the internet) as a result- like maybe they would convert or something.

IRL is a bust (the girls at my church only attend when there's a memorial). It also doesn't sit right with me to go from church to church looking for girls. I wouldn't want to- that shouldn't be a reason someone is attending. Question is, have any of you used the internet (in general, not a dating site)? It seems like the best option.


ed650e No.560540

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>>555686

>>555403

>>553762

Shes so adorable.


4f4399 No.560544

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>>557368

WE WANT THE SOURCE!! WE DEMAND IT!

>>555674

>>555701

>>560540




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b85964 No.559377[Reply]

Post your favorite Art created by Christians or art containing Christian themes.

Paintings,Architecture, and Sculptures are welcomed.

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0aa08f No.559768

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f52e53 No.559772

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f0f17c No.559786

>>559397

Source?


f52e53 No.559801

>>559786

some absolute genius posted it to a drawthread here months ago


982456 No.560542

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Louis Janmot, the artist who painted these had a very deep catholic faith. His greatest work, poem of the soul, consisted of 16 paintings all of which included christian themes. These are some of them




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0e27e9 No.560386[Reply]

Anglicans, why aren't you Catholic ?

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eafb55 No.560519

>>560494

are you sri lankan anon?


dd5472 No.560526

>>560505

Anglo-Catholics are allowed to and do ignore The 39 Articles


21b477 No.560527

>>560526

No they don't. Their confession is nominal and they also larp women ordination and subject themselves to women bishops.

Anglo-catholicism is the biggest larp around and just a stepping stone before going to Rome or East

t. Ex anglo-catholic


21b477 No.560529

>>560527

Don't get me wrong, the larping was fun and the churches beautiful but it was all style and no substance.

Anglo-catholarps also tend to have the most abhorrent theology which they carry like a plague with them when they inevitably decide to become catholic, such as denial of the church as body of Christ and authority of seat of peter and ecumenical council…


7c8307 No.560541

>>560526

So they're a part of a church and pretend that the rules of the church don't apply to them? They're just as illigitimate as any other Anglican priest.

As other anon said, just because you're larping as a Catholic doesn't make you legitimate.




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ad1548 No.553563[Reply]

I've been reading the bible I claimed to base my doctrine solely on, but the Evidence in Favor of Catholicism is winning me over. Help convince me one way or the other…

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84a8dd No.557333

>>557128

>but it is an attack on your pride

I take pride in the Virgin Mother because she gave us Christ, whom is Our Lord and died for our sins. If there's any case of a justified pride, it is this.

>You are the attacker on Mary for making stuff up, making up your own version of her, and saying to believe you is exalting God is what is really twisted and sick.

You have much to answer for when Christ judges us.


75b645 No.557344

>>557199

>Now God wants to use her immaculate heart for the salvation of mankind

Book, chapter and verse, please

>it wasn't demonic when he honoured her to give birth to Christ, and it isn't demonic when he uses her to bring people to Christ

It is demonic for a creature to demand devotion to themselves

>types are not the fullness of what they represent

So this is a type. Ok, then, anon, I have a question for you, is this typology presented in the New Testament, or in the Roman Catholic mythology from centuries after the New Testament? Are you reading this in light of the New Testament revelation, or in light of Roman Catholic doctrine?

>I am

You're confused. I did not mean to state the absurdity of your position, but to state a fact. You may very well compare a Marian prayer to a prayer request, you just cannot do so honestly. Intellectual dishonesty/cognitive dissonance is built into the argument.

>our mother

She's not my mother

>By honouring her I am honouring God

>>Mat:15:3-4

When you honor your actual mother, do you honor her like you "honor" Mary?

>God the Holy Spirit honours Mary as his bride

Blasphemy. Disgusting, wicked blasphemy.

>if God honoured someone I would be scared not to honour that person

So now you ascribe the same worship of Mary to God?

>>557327

>earn grace

Do I even need to point out the oxymoron?


84a8dd No.557352

>>557344

through intercession my friend

We cannot pray our way into unmerited grace, but a sinless, holy intercessor like the Blessed Mother (ever virgin) can truly help us.

And ofc, all the angels and saints can help us as well.


5c011c No.557410

>>557235

>1. People are sinning against Mary instead of God now?

You can sin against me. it's not limited to God. it's more offensive to God to have his mother hated by people who claim to follow His Son.

>2. You get a ticket to Heaven with the easy work of

that's not what she promised. She promised the graces necessary for salvation. So if you are in mortal sin, you will get the graces necessary to repent. You can choose not to repent or you can choose to repent, but without the graces necessary to repent you will never repent. 3 is addressed here

>4:

who gets to decide what's vain? apparently it's you and since you are against Catholics, what they do is vain repetition. vain repetition is when you do not put any of your soul, body, mind and heart into prayer and believe you will be heard because you said a long prayer or a prayer many times. Catholics recommend to lower the amount of prayers you say if he can't focus and that God loves a decade of Hail Marys said devoutly more than five decades distracted.

>>557344

>Book, chapter and verse, please

Where is it written that he does not want to use her immaculate heart for the salvation of mankind?

here is where it is written that he wants to use her immaculate heart for the salvation of mankind.

Lk1:28

>The angel appeared to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.”

>It is demonic for a creature to demand devotion to themselves

demonic is when it comes from a demon, if it comes from God then it is from God. You have not provided scriptural reference to say why it can't come from God, well you have and I showed you were wrong, with many verses, and that you insisted God was contradicting himself.

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928950 No.560538

>>557352

I'd like to know where that teaching comes from.

>>557327

>If you insult Christ's mother, is she not offended? and how much more so her Son?

Mary does not have a special elevated status among the believers.

From Matthew 12:

>46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.

>47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.

>48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?

>49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

>50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

In the passage Jesus refuses to go out and speak with Mary when she asks. If he refuses to fulfill her wishes in such a small matter, you have no justification to give her special powers to get your personal prayers fulfilled.

>By graces she means a way to clear your soul from purgatory through unmerited Grace.

Even if you believe in Purgatory, it makes no sense that Mary could arrange for you to avoid it all for you having done some chores decades previously. But the text reads like it should also include avoiding Hell, and other Marian apparitions have given promises more explicitly along those lines, only involving different types of work.

>We believe that reflecting upon the Passion of Christ is one of the best ways to earn grace. Since you do not believe in works to begin with, you do not understand.

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