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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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24164a  No.787908[Reply]

Is Christian nihilism just the Doomers before it was a meme? I use to be a Christian nihilist until I start wanting to be attached to the world and other humans again.

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9da6a2  No.787984

>>787908

> Christian nihilist

That's an oxymoron. As this anon >>787911 says, you can't be both. As a Christian, the meaning of life is to have a relationship with God.


0d51fa  No.788889

>>787922

Idk what Christian nihilism or Gnosticism entails but worldly isn't the same as the world.


7e36e3  No.788912

What about Christian existentialism? The likes of Kierkegaard, and such?


4ab52f  No.788953

>>788912

As a Catholic I give it a hard pass, but Kierkegaard does have more of my respect then say Frederick Nietzsche.


24164a  No.788961

>>788912

That sounds cratchy




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7cd1da  No.788298[Reply]

Is this Christian right to be so angry and upset at homosexuality?

I mean, he looks REALLY angry to know that his mayor is a homosexual faggot.

Isn't this a little excessive or is his rage totally legitimate and moderate?

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fd845e  No.788803

>>788750

He didn't do that out of anger, but out of love for the Temple. Jesus did not physically strike anyone, he merely drove out the money lenders and overturned their tables.


fd845e  No.788804

>>788749

Romans 12:19, “Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, ‘Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.’”


b0f1d3  No.788854

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03c4d5  No.788875

I was born in the early 80s. I didn't even know homosexuality existed when I was a kid. I would hear it used as an insult, but I didn't think it even existed. I learned that it existed through the Internet. I made an online friend in a video game chat, and he told me he was bisexual. I didn't understand why anyone would do that. I thought it was morally wrong, even though I wasn't very religious. I had a friend in high school who came out, and I thought it was gross, but he was still my friend.

In college, I was around a lot more people who were openly gay. I thought if you don't act obnoxiously flamboyant but are gay, then why does it matter? I thought they were just 2% of the population, so what was the big deal. I had developed a more libertarian attitude to deal with the world. I didn't even buy the whole born this way argument. I think sometimes it has a biological component, but it always has an environmental or learned component. There's always a distortion that occurs. I thought it telling how gay activists never accepted ex-gay people. They didn't get a letter in the acronym.

I had been very depressed, mainly due to growing up in an extremely violent home… occurring more days than not. I thought my parents were literally going to murder each other, or even me. I was really skinny and effeminate, mainly because I thought if you were like a girl, you would be OK because you weren't supposed to hit girls. It doesn't make sense, but this was the only survival mechanism my small child brain could develop. I wasn't transgender because I didn't even knew that existed. Recently, I heard a story of a women who spent several years pretending to be a man, but through therapy she realized it was because she had been repeatedly raped as a child, and her child brain reasoned if she did not have a vagina, she could not be harmed. When a child is put in a terrifying situation like that, the conscious part of the child is struggling to survive and will distort to do so.

I was so depressed, having been rejected by a woman I loved dearly and spent 3 years with. I went through a period of unemployment before going back to school and working multiple jobs. In school I was suicidal. I was completely alone, or so I thought. I had stoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


1c98dd  No.788894

>>788804

Not all killing is vengeance. If someone aka a pedophile is trying to push their trans nonsense on children, a Christian imperium would have them killed not as an act of vengeance but necessity. Justinian's Code. It's a difficult issue and I'm not sure where I land but I've heard good arguments from both sides.




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8f02cd  No.788276[Reply]

>Caesar’s Messiah is a 2005 book by Joseph Atwill, which argues that the New Testament Gospels were written as wartime propaganda by scholars connected to the Roman imperial court of the Flavian emperors: Vespasian, Titus and Domitian. According to Atwill, their primary purpose in creating the religion was to control the spread of Judaism and moderate its political virulence. The Jewish nationalist Zealots had been defeated in the First Jewish–Roman War of 70 AD, but Judaism remained an influential movement throughout the Mediterranean region. Atwill argues that the biblical character Jesus Christ is a typological representation of the Roman Emperor Titus

>As a youth, Joseph Atwill studied Greek, Latin and the Bible at St. Mary's Military Academy, a Jesuit-run school in Japan

>Jesuit

Why is the Society of Jesus Christ composed entirely of people who hate Him and subvert His teachings at every turn?

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090cb3  No.788331

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>>788303

>If this was supposed to be some master plan for the emperors to shoot themselves (stab themselves?) in their own foot, then I don't understand.


b24448  No.788668

File: bc9d4ca71e09421⋯.png (464.64 KB, 469x723, 469:723, Saint Peter Damian.png)

Remember

>The Christ myth theory is a fringe theory, supported by few tenured or emeritus specialists in biblical criticism or cognate disciplines. It is criticised for its outdated reliance on comparisons between mythologies, and deviates from the mainstream historical view.

Practically no other atheistic scholars take these goofs seriously, to the point of even Bart D. Errorman ripping into Atwill . He's not as much of a kook as Dorothy Milne Murdock/Acharya S, but that's hardly a high bar to clear.

Seriously, look her up, her 'theories' are hilarious.

The historicity of Christ was a legitimate discussion in the mid-18th and 19th centuries, and was eventually resolved in the favour of the truth we'd already held. All that's left is the atheist equivalent to flat earthers doing a better impression of the 'obstinate fanatic who refuses to accept reality' than we ever could.

As concerns the Jesuits, pic related.


a92abc  No.788669

>>788668

>pic related

St. Peter Damian!?

The guy that ripped into 11th century pedos, priests with mistresses and other sexually corrupt clergy?

He just becomes more based every time i hear about him.

t. ortho


0d56bf  No.788775

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>>788668

A gift to you.


b24448  No.788811




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cd0bfe  No.788219[Reply]

Can someone explain what Sophia is?

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623fff  No.788589

>>788449

a "type" is not a 1:1 thing, and the referring to wisdom as the feminine is a rhetorical device used by Solomon

>>788481

>Christ was not created thus Wisdom cannot be Christ.

again, a "type" is not a 1:1 thing. Isaac is a type of Christ because of the episode with Abraham, but we do not consider Isaac to literally be Christ.


357bbc  No.788594

Guys Sophia means Wisdon in Greek. It's referring to God's wisdom. The whole term is "Hagia tou Theou Sophia" wich translates to the Holy Wisdom of God. It's not Mary neither Christ.


3fbf73  No.788723

>>788594

Sophia is a very prominent figure in Gnosticism, which is why I've read that at some point the veneration of Sophia was downplayed because of its associations with Gnostic cults. However yeah there is some mystery over what Sophia is, since it is always referred to as she/feminine - however the Word of God (Christ) is referred to by many Saints as the Wisdom of God - however I don't think that Jesus is Sophia, since like people said in scripture it's said that Sophia is created.


357bbc  No.788737

>>788723

Sophia in Christianity is not a distinct figure but the Greek word for God's wisdom. It couldn't ever be downplayed because we can't do something like that. The most famous Christian church ever was dedicated to the wisdom of God. It's a feminine word in Greek that's why she's referred as such. No it's not Jesus.


623fff  No.788788

>>788737

Wisdom is a property and one of the Chief gifts of the Holy Spirit, not a person with a male/female sex, nor identified as the Holy Spirit Himself, which IS identified as the masculine because it is the same One God along with the Father and the Son.




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1e8a53  No.780886[Reply]

And also, whats the most respected oldest manuscript of the original greek?

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bb7c72  No.787403

Thread verse:

Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

Psalm 2:12


6e233f  No.787447

>>780888

Oh yes it is, read St. Justin Martyr and St. Clement of Alexandria, they both go over it in their "Dialogue with Trypho" and "Against Judaizers" respectively.


89b60c  No.787738

>>787447

Hmm, I didn't know those guys lived in the 9th century AD.


9d8a24  No.788187

>>787447

>read St. Justin Martyr and St. Clement of Alexandria,

Can you summarize? You've got my curious enough to put this on my reading list. But in the meantime can you share some quotes or something?


b12a26  No.788757

>>788187

Its a bunch of guys that lived before the 9th century AD. I dont know how they could've commented on something the Masoretes made.




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60a63c  No.788471[Reply]

I know as Christians a lot of you do NoFap (for those who don't know, this is abstaining from porn and/or masturbation), and this thread got banned from Plebbit for "collecting information without permission" so I figured I'd post it here.

It's a short, 5 min survey with questions about why you do NoFap and what you believe about it, if those of you who do NoFap could help me, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Good luck with your journey and thank you for your help,even if you decide not to fill out the form. :)

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdCkXmTzSoNCire2PG4O74fdiIIQKvRr8mS-9Zsy9-TR0UgXQ/viewform?usp=sf_link

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42392d  No.788551

>>788471

You might want to try asking this in /pol/, but be warned, for every good response you're going to get 10 worthless, uncharitable posts like

>>788527

>>788521

>>788540


42392d  No.788552

>>788471

Oh yeah, and for future reference, use something like Surveymonkey if you want less static. Lots of people are uncomfortable with Google because of their data mining.


7d4ceb  No.788579

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/12/07/august-ames-suicide-sjw-mob-condemns-refusal-work-gay-actors/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6595871/Online-porn-horror-Girl-16-forced-colostomy-bag-attempting-group-anal-sex.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_7PtWDCMXQ

>A rising porn star, Shelley Lubben, admits she entered Satan's Final Frontier when she began doing porn. Hear her speak the truth about what really happens on the porn set and how she escaped that hell.

www.jewwatch.com/porn.html


0565c8  No.788600

>>788540

So it's an unfunny meme?


714293  No.788639

I submitted your form OP, when can I expect my visit from the FBI? Just kidding, kind of.




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a7c8ad  No.777234[Reply]

No offence lads, obviously there's a lot more to denominations than something this superficial but it seems so basic to me that the Church that came first has to be the rightful one.

At first glance I would say there are only two potential apostolic branches, the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church, prior to them Christianity has been united so it's natural to conclude that when two Churches came out of The Great Schism that seperated Christendom, one of them has to be legitimate, simple as that.

And to decide which one is legitimate one needs to look into the scripture, study holy tradition, the doctrines/teachings of both Churches, read the Church Fathers etc and then I think one can make an informed decision on their own on which they deem to be legitimate.

So then what is the draw to Protestant denominations who are all clearly material reactionary developments of their time?

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d6f7a7  No.786792

>How do Protestants cope with their Church being less than a millenium old?

Our Church, the Church of Jesus Christ, is as old as when it has been founded by the Messiah.

When our Church institutions have been founded, doesn't matter


3692b7  No.788567

>>777234

I believe philosophy refines itself with time, and that the church exists as a philosophical front for the spiritual/metaphysical.


ddb19e  No.788571

>>788567

If it was so philosophical, St. Paul wouldn't have outright called the Gospel "foolishness" to the world.

"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe."

It didn't even attempt to answer philosophy until the times of Sts. Irenaeus and Justin Martyr when they finally gave a defense to the Hellenic/Roman outsiders who had written off Christianity as a religion for housewives and slaves. And those who outright attempted to merge philosophy got the boot and are forever considered heretics (Marcion, Origen, etc).

The Church Jesus built is certainly transformative and powerful and changes society for the better.. but it's never been for Platonic or Far Eastern notions of enlightenment. And the least in it's kingdom are in fact the greatest.


ca9b05  No.788585

>>788571

Your interpretation is debatable, St. Paul is calling preaching to pagans and the like a sort of "foolishness", not the Gospel itself, nor the teachings or traditions contained within and without through the Church.

>It didn't even attempt to answer philosophy

Nonsense, as St. Paul told the Areopagites, God did in fact wink at them, and God's work is empirical to a certain degree. But no philosopher arrived at the Truth, which is only available through the Son. Philosophy through the revelation of God is more than biblical.

>And those who outright attempted to merge philosophy got the boot and are forever considered heretics (Marcion, Origen, etc)

And what of Augustine or Aquinas, friend?


0ae349  No.789082

Catholics are really just modern day Pharisees.




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f2b6e1  No.788459[Reply]

Are there any here who think that the creation story is a metaphor for evolution?

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64bca9  No.788517

>>788501

Yes, I agree, although "Abba" in English is "Father."


28a1fe  No.788526

>>788517

yeah and logos in english is word (I sometimes prefer to use the word Aba in prayer over father)


f9e7ef  No.788554

>>788459

That's heresy.


3dd1fe  No.788563

>>788459

Yeah, pretty much nothing in Genesis excludes scientific theories of evolution or the formation of the earth. If you want to I can go into more details.


1d1dd1  No.788566

If I'm already believing in Christ, might as well believe in the literal creation.




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79927d  No.787320[Reply]

I know that suicide is a sin, but what about taking actions that, while not directly causing death, increase my chance of death? These actions include eating unhealthy food, not exercising, and smoking. I don't want to live a long life.

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9ffff1  No.788130

>>788109

Thank you.


41cd0e  No.788140

>>788106

>I don't think hating myself is a sin if the hate is well deserved.

Well, that's the thing. It IS a sin, because it's never deserved. We are God's creation, made in his image, How could self-destruction ever make sense given that? Jesus himself says on numerous occasions, that our own self judgement is one of the biggest barriers keeping us from reaching the kingdom of God. He accepts the lowest of the low (murderers, rapists, prostitutes, etc) just as much as he accepts the Saints, so what makes you think you're so special that you don't deserve any self respect?

If you feel you're a burden on your family, either they're the sinners in the wrong for making you feel that way, or you're misinterpreting your own situation to make it seem worse than it actually is. Instead of feeling like a burden, you should acknowledge how generous God is for providing you a family that's supporting you, even when even you don't see your own value. And don't forget that God's plan is never just about you, it's about everyone. Your purpose in being here may just be for the sake of having your family support you, and here you are thinking about screwing God's plan up for them.


4a446b  No.788228

>>787323

It sounds like that's about helping your family, not taking care of your own health.


9a2bc5  No.788311

>>787320

Keep in mind OP, it is possible that God could bless you with a peaceful passing in your sleep if you live to a healthy old age. If instead you abuse your body, you will most likely die a slow, agonizing death, which will only increase the burden on your family.

I believe you would benefit from a hardworking job doing manual labor. You would also benefit from increased prayer, spiritual reading, and reflection, as would we all.


d56c82  No.788547

DO NOT go down this route. I have permanent pain from extreme sports.




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f312eb  No.786956[Reply]

I hear everyone on here always pissing and moaning over "Rabbinic Judaism" and the Talmud. But have you guys actually ever read the Talmud? I'm not defending it or anything and it does contain some blasphemous stuff about Jesus and Mary but really other than that all it is is a bunch of Rabbis debating over how to interpret the law of Moses and also how the law was practiced in the time of Jesus. For example, it tells us that the Passover lambs were slain at 12:30 PM (half past the 6th hour) if Passover began on the Sabbath It also tells us how to Sanhedrin worked and stuff. A lot of is pretty harmless so what's the fuss? How is Rabbinic Judaism different from ancient Judaism minus the Temple? I am genuinely curious.

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3d3a4e  No.787287

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>>787067

>All of them have secret rituals where they worship the new moon every lunar cycle and they sacrifice chickens over their head to pass sins into it, for example.


3a163f  No.788480

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>he thinks the wave-chicken-sacrifice-over-head ritual is something that exists only in history

This is Brooklyn.


c596a2  No.788489

>>787079

/ourkikes/


4612e6  No.788491

Yea, maybe, but Christianity still disagrees with the Rabbis and the Talmud


5bcc34  No.788519

>>788480

Look at how they blaspheme the sacrifices ordained by God in Leviticus. Instead of simply killing the animal as swiftly as can be done by physical means (a swift cut to the jugular), they toss the poor chicken to and fro.




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4fef9b  No.787724[Reply]

How the hell is raising your hands in the air and getting all emotional for like an hour while a guy screams verses out of the Bible worship? There is no cult, no sacrifice, no priests or liturgy, no prayers to follow along to, no chanting of psalms. Do you think the priests in the Temple back in the days of Solomon were doing this? Do you think the early Christians were doing this when they gathered for the Eucharist? Seriously Protestants, especially of the charismatic type, baffle me.

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e593f2  No.788416

>>788415

That doesn't really address the question.

Why isn't the trust in taking the Eucharist as salvific in contradiction with Ephesians 2:9, for the christian?


e593f2  No.788420

>>788418

How did you conclude that


e593f2  No.788426

>>788423

Expound


e593f2  No.788434

>>788430

Yes, the Christian should do those things. This is again stated in chapter 4.

How does this illuminate the conclusion you reached that the prohibition against trusting in works only applies to the unconverted? I'm asking for a hermeneutical answer.


e593f2  No.788450

>>788447

So there's nothing intrinsic in Ephesians 2 that made you reach your conclusion, but you're attempting to fit this in with a doctrine you find elsewhere. That is a valid line of reasoning.

You reconcile James 2 "a man is justified by works" and Ephesians 2 "through faith, not of works" by identifying several justifications. Is that accurate?




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2d9e9b  No.787825[Reply]

I know a lot of people believe that Heaven is a place without pain or hardship of any kind, but I find that extremely hard to believe. Not only do I think that man needs hardships to triumph over for his own well being, but Heaven is where the Angelic Rebellion took place and that certainly couldn't have been painless.

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714217  No.788354

ENDLESS CELESTIAL SEX


aae6ef  No.788356

>>788354

There is no sex in Heaven.


66a774  No.788357

>>787825

I think you need to remember that we only really need to overcome hardship as men because of Adam's curse to toil in the dirt and suffer from it, before the fall Adam rested constantly in God's presence and with the animals God created for him, I think it would be similar to this. We'll be able to finally see God's face and be at peace, in eternal wonder and glory


8bdd70  No.788408

>>788361

More like muslimposting

but whats the difference, amirite?


daaf7a  No.788555

>>788408

actually come to think of it do muslims actually say endless sex like the moromons, or is it just implied what with the whole 72 virgins thing




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a6844f  No.752130[Reply]

How do I stop worshiping money? I think it's corrupting me.

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1a954f  No.788164

It is good for a true Christian to earn money, the more he earns the less it comes to the hands of evil.

But do not just give that money you earned back to the evil, all those "charity organizations".

They bring us problems, and they are actually doing more to destroy the ones you think they would try to help.

Do you think you do good if you send bread to Africa? A food we don't eat for any value it has but just to fill the parts of our bellies not already filled with pork liver and chicken-breasts?

If you want to spend your money somewhere, spend it to the local church. That will put a house of god one day more away from being demolished by some godless mayor. That will also help them furnishing the Church so it may become a little bit more beautiful of all the churches that are there. It may also help the Church helping the poor and needy of your home.


21f147  No.788212

I've been suckered to depend on money due to owing over $20,000 in student loans. I wish I could become a monk or a Jesuit brother and leave this secular life all behind but I'm bounded to it and I hate it. I don't even want to be involved in any career with the degree that I'm about to earn.

How do I escape this and get closer to GOD?


a47988  No.788213

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>>788212

If you live in America you can always

1) join the military (GI bill will pay for your debts)

2)Join the Peace Corps (they will forgive your debts for x amount of overseas charity work)

Number 2 will be your best bet imo as you wont (probably) die during your service and you will be doing charity work for poor 3rd worlders.


ffb23a  No.788214

>>752130

what is opposite of greed and mammon worship? Charity, do charity.


ffb23a  No.788216

>>788212

>>788213

there are some catholic orgs that help prospective religious pay off their debts.

here is a example: https://rescuevocations.org/




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77a3d8  No.787788[Reply]

>The Home Office refused asylum to an Iranian who converted from Islam to Christianity because it said that Christianity was not a peaceful religion.

>The Iranian national claimed asylum in 2016, but was turned down, with Home Office officials saying his conversion from Islam was 'inconsistent' with his claim Christianity was a peaceful religion - by highlighting violent passages from the bible. They said that the Book of Revelation was “filled with imagery of revenge, destruction, death and violence”.

The statement concludes:

>These examples are inconsistent with your claim that you converted to Christianity after discovering it is a 'peaceful' religion, as opposed to Islam which contains violence rage and revenge'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6832721/Home-Office-letter-quotes-bible-verses-prove-Christianity-NOT-religion-peace.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/home-office-christian-convert-asylum-refused-bible-not-peaceful-a8832026.html

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/home-office-cites-bible-to-deny-asylum-0s59c38l0

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d046fb  No.787991

>And Rabbi Yoḥanan says: A gentile who engages in Torah study is liable to receive the death penalty; as it is stated: “Moses commanded us a law [torah], an inheritance of the congregation of Jacob” (Deuteronomy 33:4), indicating that it is an inheritance for us, and not for them.- Sanhedrin 59a

>Fight against those People of the Book who have no faith in God or the Day of Judgment, who do not consider unlawful what God and His Messenger have made unlawful, and who do not believe in the true religion, until they humbly pay tax with their own hands. -Quran 9:29

Sounds like Islam and Judaism are not peaceful religions at all and in fact are telling their followers to actually take violent action instead of just saying “let God handle it”


161f11  No.787999

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>>787991

Read the full 59a.

The other rabbis immediately disagreed, and their responses went from "Gentiles doing Torah study is awesome" to "a gentile that does that is holier than a high priest".

The Talmud is a weird book of contrarian jews bickering over anything and everything.

Now, Islam, especially Salafi-influenced?

That's another story.


9d74c5  No.788020

>>787999

>The Gemara raises an objection to Rabbi Yoḥanan’s statement from a baraita: Rabbi Meir would say: From where is it derived that even a gentile who engages in Torah study is considered like a High Priest? It is derived from that which is stated: “You shall therefore keep My statutes and My ordinances, which if a man does he shall live by them” (Leviticus 18:5). The phrase: Which if priests, Levites, and Israelites do they shall live by them, is not stated, but rather: “A man,” which indicates mankind in general. You have therefore learned that even a gentile who engages in Torah study is considered like a High Priest.

>The Gemara answers: There, in the baraita, the reference is to a gentile who engages in the study of their seven mitzvot. It is a mitzva for a gentile to study the halakhot that pertain to the seven Noahide mitzvot, and when he does so he is highly regarded.

The rabbi got counter objected and got told that Gentiles can only study stuff that got to do with Noahide Laws then after that they just went arguing what applies to both groups and what applies to Jews only.


ecf90d  No.788043

>>788020

would it have hurt these guys to have written the Talmud a bit better?

"so and so said this but this man and this rabbi said this" is annoying to read


b736d1  No.788207

>>788020

>it's Job over and over but without God appearing at the end or depth

I give it a 5/10.




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647297  No.787663[Reply]

How do we convert India and rid the entire continent from idols?

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88cea4  No.787976

>>787950

Sorry friend, but that is not how it works. We christians do not work togheter with muslims and even less jews. For we believe the only true abrahamic faith is christianity


5d9c73  No.787980

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They will kill you if you try, and possibly even kill your new converts. Try to convert Indians in the Western world if you want, but be careful when trying to go to countries that won't protect your rights.


fa95d5  No.787981

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>>787857

Nagalanders were animists, not hindus.

Animists are usually easy-picking for monotheistic faiths, be they cathortodox, evangelical missionaries, or Islam(Buddhists are also easier to convert).

When you start competing with a religion that was actually there for a long time and has a developed canon, and/or one of the above mentioned monotheists, it gets tense, and it grows very slowly, unless a miracle happens, or you go full "Convert or die, infidel!", which isn't exactly the best strategy from a spiritual or PR point-of-view.


7d2cec  No.788168

>>787663

Hi sisters and brothers

there's just simply too much info and i need to study something useful so i can find a job.

who cares if indians worship cows

love you sisters/brothers

/dk/


7d2cec  No.788169

if they stop living on curry alone it would make me very happy

/dk/




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