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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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c0835d  No.798976[Reply]

Pope during Easter vigil: Reject 'glitter of wealth'…

Encouraging the faithful, Francis said: “Why not prefer Jesus, the true light, to the glitter of wealth, career, pride and pleasure?”

http://archive.today/2019.04.21-163411/https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/20/pope-easter-vatican-glitter-wealth-1283780

VATICAN CITY — At an Easter vigil in St. Peter’s Basilica, Pope Francis on Saturday encouraged people to resist cynicism or pursuing the “glitter of wealth,” and to avoid seeking life’s meaning in “things that pass away.” “Do not bury hope!” Francis exclaimed, after noting that when things go badly, “we lose heart and come to believe that death is stronger than life.” “We become cynical, negative and despondent,” Francis added. For Christians, Easter is a day of joy and hope, as they mark their belief that Jesus triumphed over death by resurrection following crucifixion. “Sin seduces; it promises things easy and quick, prosperity and success, but leaves behind only solitude and death,” the pope said. “Sin is looking for life among the dead, for the meaning of life in things that pass away.” Encouraging the faithful, Francis said: “Why not prefer Jesus, the true light, to the glitter of wealth, career, pride and pleasure?”

At the start of the ceremony on Easter’s eve, Francis, dressed in white robes, slowly carried a lit candle up the aisle of a darkened St. Peter’s Basilica. At the chant in Latin for “light of Christ, the basilica’s lights were suddenly switched on in a dramatic tradition. Arrayed before the steps of the altar was a row of cardinals, wearing ivory robes. Behind them in the pews sat diplomats with their spouses and thousands of rank-and-file Catholics, tourists and pilgrims among them. Among those in the basilica were eight adults who were baptized by the pope during the Mass. The Vatican said these new faithful are from Italy, Albania, Ecuador, Indonesia and Peru. From a shell-shaped silver dish, Francis poured holy water over the bowed heads of the three men and five women, after they walkPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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a0eee6  No.799923

>>799921

>What does it matter if Lambo gets free publicity out of it?

Because it promotes the very "glitter of wealth" that the pope denounced himself, spreading the very same he says he rejects. This is being an "useful idiot" (no offense)


fd00eb  No.799924

>>799923

Except it doesnt. The glitter of wealth is greed. Paying 4 times the market price on a car, knowing the proceeds go to charity is the exact opposite of greed


ac059b  No.799925

>>799920

They didn't give the Lambo to the Pope. He signed it to sell it for charity.


f61fc1  No.799951

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>>799911

>>799909

Guys, say what you want. I'm upset the Pope didn't autograph a Tesla model S, especially given Tesla cars are greener than Lambos


5ad561  No.799960

>>799951

Kek

You just gotta secure more funding Elon than maybe you'll be able to make a profit so you can actually donate a Telsa for charity.




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0a6478  No.798005[Reply]

I am starting to realise that one cannot be Christian yet reject young Earth creationism, Adam and Eve being the literal first humans, Genesis chapter 5, the Flood, the Tower of Babel, Joshua 10:12-14, etc. etc. etc. This not being real truly kills the faith and so do dinosaurs. Most Christians pretend it's not a massive problem and hate being reminded of it because they know it is, as I did. I used to do mental gymnastics to convince myself that it's not supposed to all be accepted as literal and almost went the polar-opposite way thinking "maybe modern scientific knowledge is all a lie" and nearly accept AnswersInGenesis' stuff but due to my love for science and intellectual honesty I feel that I need to stop lying to myself and playing dumb.

What I do know is that I am not starting to reject biblical history because the theology doesn't feel right to me and because "I want to sin without feeling guilty". I, without any doubt, accept Christian moral teachings and will surely continue to live my life striving to embrace the seven virtues and avoiding the seven sins. I just honestly have no genuine faith in stuff like the genealogy of Christ and yet it is extremely important to the faith. I will always love Him because He was undoubtedly a good man who did nothing but bring good to the world and continues to this day, His suffering inspires me, St. Paul makes me want it all to be real even more. I believe Christ is the most important human being to have ever existed and that the Christian faith has more value than any other religion. People unironically "need Jesus" as He is synonymous with "Good".

However, I just don't feel that it's true anymore, despite the faith of the apostles and despite all the signs which seem to confirm it. I used to tell myself "even if I found out it's false, I'll still convince myself that it's true because it has to be" but now I realise that it's a sad way of thinking. I love Christ and Christian theology, as well as Scripture which I will be reading all my life, but if the Flood didn't actually happen, it's not the true religion and Heaven and Hell as described in the Bible aren't real which means that even if there is an after-life, which I still believe there is, and that we have been faithful in this one till the end, we may never meet Him. He was a young Earth creationist HimPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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d07731  No.799475

>>799363

>Honestly, I was indifferent to evolution but this thread is strongly pushing me toward Young Earth Creationism, with eveything that implies.

Seriously, go for it!

Understanding the truth of Genesis not only put strong faith into my heart (and converted me into a Christian on the spot), but also got me a direct connection to the Lord and insight into His plan.

Genesis is one key to His kingdom.


3a4f04  No.799547

>Adam and Eve being the literal first humans

>The people from Genesis 1:26 is a non-archetypical Adam in genesis 2:7

How do you explain the discontinuity in the first chapters of Genesis?


168ca4  No.799655

>>799361

>Catholic arrogance and deceit

?


f6db3a  No.799927

>>798005

Op chances are that you’ve already looked into this, but just in case you haven’t: https://answersingenesis.org/


f6a58c  No.799950

>>799472

New IP here, I'm arguing against evolution and scientism. I agree with you. I just made a typo on my post here. >>799450

I meant to say that scientists could in a hundred years overturn their consensus again with more advanced technology. That's why these current scientific theories are not to be taken as a serious challenge to faith.




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798adb  No.799829[Reply]

I read that Hell in Christianity is actually not eternal, the word for aeon doesn’t necessarily mean eternal, like in the phrase “till the end of the aeon” so when an aeon can have an end how is hell eternal? Tell me what you think. Is that baseless or is there something to it?

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e05a96  No.799941

>>799829

Its better to err on the side of caution most cannot rise above self interest

>Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom

But it is not the end.


c0887f  No.799944

>>799829

>The Bible never explicitly states that homosexual acts are sinful!

How convenient for sodomites to read into the Bible a loophole for their disordered desires.


dea375  No.799948

>>799944

Actually it does say homosexuality is unnatural, in the Old Testament.

Also St Justinians Law says that homosexuals are to be burned for their crimes. The death penalty is a perfectly Orthodox punishment. Not murder of course, but the death penalty.


d2527a  No.799956

>>799944

false equivalence


c0c4ff  No.800020

>>799829

This doesn't matter tbh. It's kind of agreed upon that even if it would be true nobody should teach about it to not encourage spiritual sloth not to mention other implications. It can stay as a wishful hope and theologoumena but never as an official or actual teaching.

>>799906

>Disappear

Pooh off JW




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007661  No.722985[Reply]

Post your successes/troubles.

The responsibility is yours. Since you're the man you are the driving force behind starting a relationship. It is your job to do the first move as it is to lead all other moves.

Women seek stability. A woman is like a flower that grows towards God. A man is more like a stick. He can direct the married couple towards God. If both of them are flowers, then they stay in mud.

>Be yourself

Be confident about who you are. It will give you a special aura around yourself

>Work on your confidence

Start at nofap thread, eliminate porn and masturbation from your life. Increase your testosterone levels by working out…./fit/

>Get hobbies

If you lack interests, you are less interesting to women. Women want men of action.

>Visit places where high quality women hang out

Church, library, your hobbies…

>Become more educated about your faith

If you want a good Christian girl you should study scriptures. If she takes her faith seriously she will probably be impressed.

Your future wife probably will not just appear out of nothing and ask you out. It is your job when she appears all of sudden to be confident enough to ask her out and handle that situation.

Purity thread:

https://8ch.net/christian/res/405648.html

If any of you guys have some useful meta, please post it so we can include it in the future to the OP.

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37b926  No.799744

I’ve been dating this girl for 3 months and we’ve talked about the possibility of marriage and kids a little while ago. She was very into it and was so bubbly and excited but last night she confessed she hates the idea of having kids and feels like marriage would ruin her life plans. I tried to talk with her about and tell her that marriage isn’t about ruining your life to be with someone else but the exact opposite and how great kids are but I know this will take a while. She also said she’s not into sex,apparently, never has been and evem now doesn’t think of a husband as soembody you have sex with and have a family with but “some one you loves you a alot alot alot alot and will always be there for you.” She’s really great and loves Christ but she has that young millennial view of “I only have one life and I’m not letting someone else ruin it in anyway.” (Basically YOLO now that I think about it). Ive had to rationalities her away from abortion being okay, before and last night got pretty far hopefully in why gay rights aren’t godly even if it “doesn’t hurt anyone” (also explained that it hurts the LORD). I don’t know guys there’s a lot to unbundle here. We finished talking 5 hours ago and I’m still processing. I'm very hurt by how she lead me on and seems to want to just be stuck in happy dating times forever.

This is part venting and part me asking your guys’ opinion. Should I keep trying and praying for her mind to be change? Or if no progress is shown in a few months or a year, part ways with her. Mind you this isn’t just some random girl for me. I’ve had a crush since last May and felt like she may truly be the one, but this is a devastating blow to my heart.


d05610  No.799748

>>799744

Maybe she is thinking that you will absolutely want to have kids right away.

That could be quite frightening (at least in times where the whole word tells you that having kids is the worst thing you can harm yourself with - obviously wrong).

Marriage without consummation until later is a possibility and your (hopefully) good influence may change her mind.

God with you, brother.


1e5aa7  No.799749

>>799744

How old is she? She sounds really immature. That isn't necessarily a bad thing. Girls need to be told what to do. She says she's not interested in sex but you know that's bs. She won't say that once she isn't virgin anymore. I would say don't try to rush anything though. It's only been 3 months. You musn't look needy, so just let her subtly know that your goal is to marry and have kids, and that if it's not with her it'll be with someone else. If she really cares about you she'll change her mind in a heartbeat.


03d8f2  No.799751

>>798757

>there's frequently time for socializing after Mass with snacks and refreshments, it feels like a real community here and we're hopeful we will make friends here soon

This aspect alone makes or breaks a church, I'm glad your family found one that the parishioners stick around for coffee hour!


715afe  No.799903

>>797664

>I have Asperger's Syndrome

Hello fellow sperg, I can relate. I don't have any issues with talking to women at all, but flirting/asking them out is basically uncharted territory.

>>799744

She seems to be a rather naive person. Try and change her mind, but if she's hellbent on not having kids then I don't think you're compatible




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0f651c  No.798537[Reply]

How is predestination avoidable given God's all-knowingness? At the end of the day God still chooses to create people he knows will ultimately spend eternity in Hell. Is the way out of this that those people ultimately deserve it, thus it is just?

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2d7a5b  No.799852

>>799840

God only lets certain things happen, so no you don't have absolute free will. It's like a multiple choice quiz but he wrote the quiz and which options. You can't just do whatever you want.


97a350  No.799855

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98bdd1  No.799874

>>799848

I guess the more pertinent question here is asking ourselves whether God had any choice in these matters either. Can he foresee the things even he will do? Is he a slave to time just like the rest of us?


765478  No.799880

>>798593

>What is the point of God creating Man? Is that what you're asking?

Yes, more or less. Obviously I'm not expecting an authoritative answer.


60ce25  No.799902

>>799852

This doesn't contradict what I wrote




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edf582  No.791786[Reply]

How is that possible that this pope has way more facility to kiss the feet of muslim african economic invaders than to let devout Catholics kiss his papal ring ?

Is this a clown world seriously ?

He goes out of his way to help people who don't deserve to be helped since they extremely abuse the Catholic generosity and yet, he plays all shy and timid when faced with devout Christians who are dedicated to the Church.

To be honest with you, I find it disrespectful.

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b0a285  No.799539

>>799237

It says "call no man YOUR father upon the earth", and in the KJV the word "you" is plural, while "thee/thou" is singular. Jesus was talking to "the multitude, and to his disciples" (Matthew 23:1), and because He used the plural form instead of the singular we know that He is talking about multiple people all calling one man who is not their father, "Father" as a title.


89392c  No.799587

>>799539

Yes, father is a title you give to the man that helped make you. If you call your Dad "Father" and not "penis Mommy" you are the highest of hypocrites.


8faa6d  No.799640

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>>792942

>He hasn't read After the Ball.

Those child diddling priests are pedophiles. For most of history, there has been no distinction between a homosexual and pedophile.


b0a285  No.799742

>>799587

Ok let me try to explain this again because you obviously didn't get it. Jesus commanded A GROUP to not call one man their collective father. THAT GROUP has one Father who is in heaven, to call a man the father of THAT GROUP would be to put him in the position of God as the Father of a group of people not related by blood. It has nothing to do with calling your biological father by what he is, because in doing so you're not placing him in the position of God you're just calling a spade a spade.


53928f  No.799899

>>799742

Jesus was commanding that God, the Father, be acknowledged separately in His Divine Personhood. It could not be applied to blood-relations, for obvious reasons; neither can we then take your claim because the Apostles themselves frequently referred to their catchumen as spiritual children in the Bible itself.

When Catholics call the Pope Holy Father, they are paying respect to the institution, they are not considering the Pope 1:1 with God, the Father.




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fbf65c  No.799106[Reply]

I went to Mass today for Easter at a different parish than the one I regularly go to since I went with my grandmother. My parish is full of mostly old people, but surprisingly at her parish it's a lot more mixed. I saw a lot of pretty church girls there (don't worry I didn't lust after them or anything). After the Mass everyone gathered into a coffee hall to share some breakfast. I wish I could've talked to at least one of those girls but I didn't get the chance. It just makes me really sad because I wish I had a girlfriend. A nice, beautiful, loving, Godly girlfriend that I could marry one day. I've never held a girl in my arms before, nor have I ever kissed one. Maybe I'm just too ugly or stupid… :( I know I'm still young but I've been out of school a little while at this point and I feel like I missed so many milestones someone my age should've already experienced. Please pray that God will help me find the right woman. O Lord, please help me. Please help me find a girl to love. :(

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1e6899  No.799731

>>799585

Most Christians idea of dating is just courtship. Settle down.


732753  No.799770

>>799728

>woman of your dreams

I just vomited in my mouth.


cea37f  No.799875

>>799612

>just find a based old man to let you have his daughter, bro!

No one would do that


01299f  No.799878

>>799875

Fathers happily support a man who has something to offer


7cb221  No.799893

>>799106

I have prayed for you OP




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e0306c  No.798730[Reply]

Where were you Christfags when Christians around the world are being killed by Muslims

Where were you christfags when my grandparents were shot by communists for running an underground church

That's why I'm not Christian you people can't even protect your own people.

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c1e59a  No.799641

>>799623

>>799628

>In the next day

I meant in the next days. And my bad for saying around a hundred, that wasn't accurate. The Wikipedia article in Portuguese says that was less than 50 but that was actually more than 80 in the following months. It's weird how selective they are about the sources. The greentext in English is from Wikipedia in English, again, they use lower numbers and are very selective about the (leftist) source.

Sorry for quadposting. I hope that kills your cat curiosity.


443557  No.799720

>>799623

We all float down here, Ginger.


369c0a  No.799869

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>>798730

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exZu-mI9f2k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GimO07m6bus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnbGaquONic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO8eN46Ryt8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rJK4RhpTSU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6PIRa4TAug

also

>using the Lord's name in a compound word with the disgusting term "fag"

I thought your ilk vanished along with the last neckbeard who decided to off himself when he found out his Richard Dawkins circle jerk netted him no further measure of life. Our Lord is not a fag, and it because of Him that you neckbeard losers got so triggered because His teachings were one that despised of your wide spread homofaggotry.


622f56  No.799884

>>798730

Where were you OP?




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7e4d25  No.658214[Reply]

NON EST VERA LIBERTAS NISI IN SOLA ECCLESIA CATHOLICA

The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for general Catholic discussion. Mass, readings, rosary - everything that is connected with the faith.

Other denominations welcome, although we politely ask you to keep the arguments about our theological differences in other threads.

Useful links:

Official Vatican website: www.vatican.va

Today's readings: www.ewtn.com/daily-readings/

Papal encyclicals: www.papalencyclicals.net

Catholic encyclopedia online: www.newadvent.org/cathen/

Summa Theologiae of St. Thomas Aquinas online: www.newadvent.org/summa/

How to pray the rosary: www.rosarycenter.org/homepage-2/rosary/how-to-pray-the-rosary/

Divine Office (liturgy of the hours): www.divineoffice.org/welcome/

Little Office of the Immaculate Conception: www.catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?p=1925

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2ebf5f  No.799826

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

What do you guys think of the new Apostolic Constitution Pope Francis is trying to make?


66bc50  No.799834

>>799826

>trying

You mean the Episcopalis Communio? The Pope doesn't have to "try" to make an apostolic constitution. It's like a Presidential executive order. The EC gave the Synod of Bishops magisterial authority. I see that as a good thing.


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66bc50  No.799839

>>799838

I can live with that.


4ea2fa  No.799843

>>799834

I guess trying was not the best word to use. But none the less, I also think this new constitution will help.

>more emphasis on evangelization

>more emphasis on charity

>new organization to prevent child abuse

Seems like a win-win-win to me.




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d2ae53  No.799775[Reply]

Pastor kisses woman on lips to 'rid body of demons'…

The minister of a church in Zimbabwe is filmed kissing the woman for an uncomfortably long time

http://archive.today/2019.04.23-144457/https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/pastor-kisses-young-woman-lips-14465890

Bizarre footage shows a pastor kiss a young woman on the lips in an attempt to "rid her body of demons ". The clergyman is seen embracing the woman in a pink dress in front of his congregation. Local media claims the pastor had discussed the soul in the sermon at a church in Zimbabwe. And it's said he demonstrated a way to cleanse the spirit - by locking lips with the woman. The video captures the awkward kiss last for an uncomfortably long time in front of the church members. Two women in the front row hold their hands to their heads. The woman in pink eventually sways and gestures at her stomach. But the pastor goes back in for a second kiss in the clip.

The camera pans toward a woman in a green cardigan standing behind a short distance behind the pastor. The video uploaded by Raymond Majongwe who captioned the video: "Pastor at work. Hale luuuuuyaa". One commenter asked: "I wonder if he does the same to his male congregates?" One priest previously told Mirror Online how he can tell if someone is possessed by a demon . Father de Meo, an exorcist of 64 years' standing from Foggia, Apulia, south-eastern Italy, says prayer is the key to establishing what ails a presented person. The exorcist will typically say a “prolonged prayer to the point where if the adversary [demon] is present, there's a reaction," he said.

ff3aca  No.799778

>>799775

>Zimbabwe




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a95fa7  No.799673[Reply]

What was the moment that made you sure that God is definitely up there?

Personally, I find myself as an agnostic , inclined to believing in God.

I don't believe this Universe appeared randomly, and this is why I find more plausible that there was an outer, intelligent force ( we identify this force as God )

Help me please

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a8a14f  No.799684

>>799673

>What was the moment that made you sure that God is definitely up there?

When His actions manifested in physical reality, even before I was a believer and before I noticed, what was going on.

The Creator is real, not some thought construct. He is not just "up there", He is right here, He loves you, He wants a dialog with you. And He has a plan for you. And the Lord acts, even when you run away from Him.

>Personally, I find myself as an agnostic

Just like me in my past

>inclined to believing in God

So He is already doing His work.

>I don't believe this Universe appeared randomly, and this is why I find more plausible that there was an outer, intelligent force

You should dig into Genesis (First Book of Moses) in the Bible with an open mind. It started my journey to Christ, I'm sure it can start yours as well.

After being in terms with the creation, go to the New Testament and the Good News. God will provide you with the means of understanding what Jesus Christ did for us, once your mind is open.

Many missionaries usually avoid the OT and start with the Messias, but the beginning of everything is very important for a strong faith.


571526  No.799698

>>799673

I’d pray the skeptic’s prayer if I were you; it’ll be very useful for you.

>moment that made me thing God was up there

Really anything that happened in my life that I could trace to Him, such as prayers being answered or miracles happening. Kudos to you for having an open mind Op


41e611  No.799721

Many reasons, but the most recent was my confirmation into the Catholic Church last Saturday. During the day I went to my local Catholic book store to get myself a confirmation gift and I opened one of the Bibles and my thumb was perfectly right under the Asperges:

>Thou shalt sprinkle me with hyssop, and I shall be cleansed: thou shalt wash me, and I shall be made whiter than snow.

>Psalm 50:9

This was just the most recent providential sign by our Lord that He exists and He is with me. It's rather surreal seeing these things now as someone coming from a background of unbelief.


fbfa5a  No.799743

>>799673

My personal story's a little boring. I always believed, and by the time I was old enough to really question things, I had enough personal experience that apostasy was never a danger. I just needed to be firmer in my beliefs.

My wife, on the other hand, (who also grew up in the faith) decided to examine all the major world faiths critically and concluded that Christianity was the only one that didn't sound like something a human being would invent. It's too weird and too different.


a8a14f  No.799746

>>799721

>It's rather surreal seeing these things now as someone coming from a background of unbelief.

This is the hardest thing to deal with as a convert.




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3582ae  No.786808[Reply]

At one point I felt very drawn to the religion but after extensively looking into it, and attempting to commit to it I've basically fallen away.

Making a sort of last ditch effort here: what convinced the majority of you here who are converts / christians who returned to the religion? What are your conversion stories? What helped you overcome doubts? Also what denomination are you if anybody answers this.

And to those who have consistently been Christian what's the basis of your faith?

I'm basically on my last legs here with it so I figured I'd post this and similar threads to see if I end up with any sort of sign.

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e440bc  No.799627

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>>786808

>>795851

Perhaps part of your difficulty is in considering Christianity but not so much considering Christ. I see some here have said similar. It is useful to read the scriptures and consider all the various beliefs and facts we hold true (and argue about), but it is hardly transformative or compelling. Sometimes it can even be counterproductive. What grips me, impacts me, blows my mind more than anything in the Bible is the person of Jesus Christ. I suggest reading the gospel again and setting aside all the proofs and arguments (just for a moment, your IQ won't drop!) and looking at Jesus as a real person. See him to be more real than any historical figure or fictional character you've read about, and consider that before you ever met him in reading the Bible, he knew you and loved you and died for you. Entertain the possibility that it's true, just for a moment, and see if you don't look at everything a different way. Talk to Jesus like he's sitting in front of you and wants to hear what you have to say.

If you want to be a Christian you have to meet Jesus. Videos and books won't form a relationship. It may be scary and counter-intuitive, but all the logical arguments will still be there afterwards if you set them aside for a bit. It won't cost a thing to pray besides feeling a bit silly.


d2706b  No.799686

>>795883

>When I first started looking into Christianity, I was trying to disprove it. I studied for perhaps 3+ years about Christianity and theology, trying to prove that it was a bunch of hogwash– and I couldn't. I took a rational, skeptical inquiry into Christianity, and come out the other side a Christian.

This is the typical late convert's story, isn't it? My approach was slightly different:

>Just for fun, lets pretend big bang and evolution is all rubbish and provoke some atheists on the Internet, so they do all the work to prove their Wikipedia story to me.

So I started studying the Bible to get my creation arguments correct. And then over night, the Lord said Hello to me, pointed me to His son Jesus Christ and started my journey.

tl;dr: Pretend being a Christian on the Internet and suddenly you become a real one.


54e7a6  No.799726

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>>786808

Why was the first fossil found in the 1800s during the height of Freemasonic power? Really makes ya think, anon. I'm more inclined to believe in young earth creationism simply on metaphysical principles. Also try to find pic related thread on the Shroud of Turin. Once you realize the extent to which the world will try to gaslight you into denying Christ I think it will redouble your faith.


54e7a6  No.799732

>>786835

Read Nichomachean Ethics, anon. It isn't merely for another world, but because the only way to lead a happy and fulfilling life is by cultivating virtue. No matter what you believe a Catholic life is the best life, pragmatically speaking.


48645a  No.799733

>>799726

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First fossils were discovered since time immemorial you LARPer. Including by Scythians for example. That's where stories about Griffins came from




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d0dc82  No.798676[Reply]

>France's Yellow Vest protesters return to the streets enraged by billions pledged to rebuild Notre Dame

It’s almost like ((yellow vest)) always been control Opposition from the start.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/france-yellow-vest-protest-notre-dame.amp

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15c843  No.799455

One of the most embarrassing OPs in a while.


0599e6  No.799458

>>798705

I think they've shown more restraint than that, and so have the police. Miraculous that we've flirted with disaster for 24 weeks after this fashion and there have only been a few deaths.


8a3cd1  No.799577

>>798705

Those were your Antifa boys, Chaim.


eb057e  No.799581

>>798676

Don't be a faggot, OP.

ESTO VIR

Why are you dealing with what you read as truth, in the first place? Why are you paying attention to MSM who has a history of lying and defamation? Why are you following their narrative?

Are the yellow vests really, most of them, angry about donations from billionaires? We know French tend to be idiot socialist and anti-Christian faggots by big numbers, but how much of it compromises the yellow vests? How do you know it's the majority of them or a significant number? How do you know it's a disproportional number of yellow vests comparing to their total population?

Pay attention to the words used:

>their anti-wealth cause

Really? Is it all about that? I don't think so.

>Black-hooded demonstrators

I've had my share of antifa and socialist black blocs already to know they are far from representing most people.

>Many protesters

>But many

HOW MANY?

>more than 11,000 people trying to enter the capital for Saturday's protests

And what's their relationship with the ones whining about private donations? It looks like two informations completely different mixed together to strengthen MSM/establishment narrative.

>Yellow Vest movement against wealth inequality

Wealth inequality in a full socialist view or unequal treatment and priorities from their government? The forceful narrative is obvious here.

Be less hysterical, OP. Don't be a faggot. Don't give in to MSM narratives just for convenience (because you already don't like yellow vests protesters or something).


9e3f1f  No.799712

why france? there isn't any revolt in english speaking western democracies




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e034b7  No.798826[Reply]

Im very new to this.

But in most threads here, i read most people convert from catholic to orthodox. Did i read the wrong threads or is orthodox the real religion?

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32e62b  No.799677

>>799491

>The 'Jews for Jesus' movement was founded by a Jewish convert to EO

Are you sure about this?


ea9c66  No.799679

>>798826

Denominations represents idolatry. One God, one people. You are shirking the responsibilities to your deity by splitting up endlessly.


87c261  No.799682

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>>799677

Yes, the founder wrote a whole book about his conversion process called "Surprised By Christ". Vid related.


df3a6f  No.799683

He's one of the founders at least. Very cool though. But they treated him badly when he converted to Orthodox, since Jews for Jesus (and pretty much all Messianics) are basically Evangelicals. Which is actually kind of odd that more aren't Orthodox…. as both biblical and rabbinic Jewish religion is liturgical as well.


df3a6f  No.799685

>>799679

Duh. That's why he wants to be Orthodox. It's not a "denomination". All that orthodox means is "right teaching". It only call itself that because Catholics split from it and acted like knuckleheads. It needed to warn people who was "teaching things right". That's it.

It's always been just the "Church" from the beginning (from the beginning in ACTUAL reality and not pretending it was.. like, for example, Baptists and Presbyterians with their retarded "Waldensian" mythology).




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92bdfa  No.799666[Reply]

Non-denominational theologian on Easter Vs Hulk Hogan on Easter.

c473f4  No.799671

She doesn't even deserve to be called "non-denominational" (who are usually conservative evangelicals albeit wrong too). She's a mainliner from Union Theological Seminary. The worst of the worst mainline seminaries (think Gender Studies and re-imagining the Exodus as a proto-Marxist "peasant revolt").

The Hulkster always cheers me up.


b0c802  No.799675

>>799666

Based Hogan. The hag is not a theologian, you can say that she have some philosophical ideas at best.




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