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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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34a9b9  No.773177[Reply]

God please save us. How can we allow doctors to brutalize the mentally ill!?

https://periclesjacks.wixsite.com/futureistrans

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edb85f  No.773196

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>>773184

the satanic left are the ones that encourages this sort of behavior in people. they're the ones that are sexualizing children and encouraging them to be trannies. they're the ones who are advocating for late term abortion.

and what's even more disgusting is that the same leftists are the ones profiting off of the bodies of dead babies.

they are the ones that make up fake hate crime hoaxes and then push them on the airwaves so they can drive a narrative into the minds of people.


30518d  No.773201

>>773184

It's not completely exclusive to leftists, but it most definitely satanic, and the left does blatantly support it a lot more. Here's a good (if disturbing) history lesson on the origin of these kinds of political shenanigans:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_fCfRD4ODqdQlmWeFASQMRLrdgPNnzm6


edb85f  No.773205

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>>773201

I'll admit, there are evil satanic people on the right as well. I'd be lying to others and myself if I were to say otherwise.


541594  No.773209

>>773205

Is this not obvious yet? Christianity has no left and right, simply good and evil, and as far as evil is concerned the right is often times just less evil than the left.


e7305c  No.773272

>>773201

Hey I love Jake




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9e9033  No.772707[Reply]

REVEALED: Vatican Secret Rules for Priests Who Father Kids…

“It’s the next scandal,” said Vincent Doyle, the son of a priest. “There are kids everywhere.”

http://archive.today/2019.02.19-001236/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/18/world/europe/priests-children-vatican-rules-celibacy.html

ROME - Vincent Doyle, a psychotherapist in Ireland, was 28 when he learned from his mother that the Roman Catholic priest he had always known as his godfather was in truth his biological father. The discovery led him to create a global support group to help other children of priests, like him, suffering from the internalized shame that comes with being born from church scandal. But one archbishop finally showed him what he was looking for: a document of Vatican guidelines for how to deal with priests who father children, proof that he was hardly alone.

The longstanding tradition of celibacy among Roman Catholic clergy was broadly codified in the 12th century, but not necessarily adhered to, even in the highest places. Rodrigo Borgia, while a priest, had four children with his mistress before he became Pope Alexander VI, an excess that helped spur Martin Luther’s Protestant Reformation. Luther wrote mockingly that the pope had as much command over celibacy as “the natural movement of the bowels.” But Mr. Doyle said that the website for his support group, Coping International, has 50,000 users in 175 countries. He said he was first shown the Vatican guidelines in October 2017 by Archbishop Ivan Jurkovic, the Vatican's envoy to the United Nations in Geneva.

Mr. Gisotti, the Vatican spokesman, said that the internal 2017 document synthesized a decade's worth of procedures, and that its "fundamental principle" was the "protection of the child. Mr. Doyle, who once studied for the priesthood and has sought to cooperate with church leaders, played a role in developing them, said Martin Long, a spokesman for the Irish Bishops' Conference. Canon lawyers say that there is noPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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d2720d  No.772826

>>772747

>This doesn't discredit the validity of their claims, but it surely doesn't help their image.

I wish people applied to attitude to Catholicism


381b5e  No.773243

>>772707

Why do some priests break their vows of celibacy? No one is forcing them to remain priests, no one would hate them if they resigned from their priesthood, got married, have sex or reproduce. But why do they continue to trick everyone they know?


d0fb56  No.773244

>>772779

Yes, that is true; but it's undeniable we need a vicar of Christ soon to swipe clean the deck of the ship and start to mend to its damaged haul.

I am just glad God will not abandon His bride He placed on Earth.

>>772762

Also, there's a sort of morbid irony to it all…

>9 yo drag child dances for gay pride and gets showered with money, so progressive!

>all priests are pedophiles and abusers and have children and REEE!

(far from justifying all these disgusting and despicable behaviours: even just one priest who did, does or will ever do something like that is already a priest too much…)

>>773243

We are human, we do the stupidest things no matter what: be it hubris, lower instincts, etc…


d859a8  No.773247


255c07  No.773263

>>772707

Priests with secret kids are a much lesser problem than homosexual priests




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a98fa7  No.770651[Reply]

I hate to be that weirdo

But I can't stop feeling like God is speeding things up.

Everywhere I look, society, church, theology, philosophy, they all seem to culminate at a certain time period.

I'm not saying the time is near and I'm not trying to profess the future. But,

It really seems like God is starting to seperate his flock more and more from the world. Even the lukewarm people of faith are either becomming more traditional or are falling completely from the way.

I'm just wondering if any one else is seeing what I'm seeing or am I legitimately going mad?

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00952d  No.773130

>>770651

Honestly, none of this is new if you read history. Read Petronius's The Satyricon or Aristophanes's Assemblywomen for a glimpse into eras of Greece and Rome, obviously they are works of fiction. Wealth and leisure breed decadence and moral regression. Just be mindful that none of this is exceptional and there is always a correction.


e11165  No.773168

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>>770651

>>770673

I agree with you anons. Many saints have continually prophesied these days and the Blessed Mother herself has done so time and again in her apparitions. Repent, for the end is near.


e11165  No.773170

>>773168

To add, history buffs can also recognize how everything has just been coming together over the past century - a making of which there is no undoing.

>Revelations 20:7-10

>7And when the thousand years shall be finished, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, and shall go forth, and seduce the nations, which are over the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, and shall gather them together to battle, the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

>8 And they came upon the breadth of the earth, and encompassed the camp of the saints, and the beloved city.

>9 And there came down fire from God out of heaven, and devoured them; and the devil, who seduced them, was cast into the pool of fire and brimstone, where both the beast

>10 And the false prophet shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.


64334b  No.773198

>>770651

It most likely won't be the end times, but you are sensing the end of an era. The beginning of a dark age, but not the end. Decadence is nothing new and this cycle has played itself out before. Pray, live faithfully is all we can do. Anxiety is the work of the Enemy.

>>770731

I'm of the opinion that there is always an antichrist on this Earth, that Satan is constantly raising new ones up in the hope that one will eventually be the one of Revelation, but of course, hoping that he will win. Food for thought.


f1c72b  No.773229

God bless you all. I love you christanons.




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8ffebb  No.772400[Reply]

Saint Paul of the Cross was the founder of the passionist order. He wrote this fantastic book about the faith, in this thread I'll share with you some of my favourite parts of the book. Let us have an open discussion about the books contents. Let's try not to have arguments about denominations.

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bc4f65  No.773005

>>772591

I found it and I want to thank you, it everything I needed.


8ffebb  No.773032

>>773005

I'm delighted to hear that. God bless you.


8ffebb  No.773216

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>>772426

I am full of miseries ; however, I hope

to save my soul : I hope it of the infinite power and goodness of God ; I hope

it through the Passion and death of

Jesus ; I hope it by the intercession

of the Mother of Sorrows ; yes, I hope

to go to heaven.


8ffebb  No.773219

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>>773216

Do not be troubled because people

despise and ignore me. God permits

this trial to humble me, and I rejoice

in it.


8ffebb  No.773220

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>>773219

The lily becomes whiter and sheds a

sweeter fragrance among thorns than

when growing in the open soil.




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e81f77  No.773123[Reply]

i'm sorry if theres a thread i should be posting this in but my head isnt straight right now so i might've missed it.

Ever since i was young i've dealt with suicidal thoughts and depression, but now i feel like im at the end of my rope. I understand that suicide is a sin but i have so little tying me to this world that i have a hard time denying how little death would affect my life in any way. I was raised Catholic but im nonpracticing and i havent felt a spiritual connection to God in years, it's as if i'm being ignored or outright forgotten by him. I understand that i'm a sinner and it's selfish of me to think this way. To be blunt, i feel like im extremely close to killing myself almost every day but im waiting for my life to either become so irreparable that death would be the better option or for some beacon of hope to shine through.

Have you Anons ever experienced something similar? Is there hope? Will my prayers be answered even if i'm a sinner?

i'm sorry if this comes off as "venting" or attention whoring but i really don't have anyone else to turn to.

c81b25  No.773125

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Are you saved? Have you ever asked God to forgive you because of your faith in Jesus?


675f39  No.773126

>>773123

Your prayers are being answered right now insofar as you have come to us for help; that you received the impetus to seek help is proof enough that you are not forgotten. Feeling distant from God is not a sign of desolation; even great saints experience such distance as a means of strengthening their resolve. What you are experiencing, however, is a hardness of heart, which all who drift from God experience, to the point that most people consider such hardness the norm, despite the fact that deep down, most also feel it is unnatural. It is difficult to elucidate such a state to one who has experienced virtually nothing but it, so what I recommend you do is read autobiographies lives of saints such as Augustine and Therese of Liseaux who have made it out of such despair. Or simply talk to your local priest. Remember, God is merciful, and to be like God means to be merciful both to others and to yourself. God's forgiveness is perfect, and is stronger than whatever guilt you have.


b2c4bf  No.773175

>>773123

Despair is a grievous sin against the Lord. How can you despair? Do you not know that He is always watching over you? Often I reflect on my short life and remember the uncountable times that the Lord had saved me from myself, though I didn't know it at the time. There were many occasions on which I should've died and many on which my sinful decisions would've changed my life permanently for the worse. Perhaps do some reflection, anon, and try to recognize all the good our Lord has done for you.

P.S. suicide is murder, you are an innocent person and have not the authority of God to take your own life. See Book 1, City of God, St. Augustine.


269b19  No.773212

Please develop a prayer life. One of the best ways to start is to pray the Rosary daily. You can download the Laudate app and go over the daily Bible readings and reflections on it.

Watch this video to understand what you've been missing and need at Mass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P45BHDRA7pU

https://www.stphilipinstitute.org/videos/eucharistic-miracles

Go setup some time to speak to a priest at your local parish and go to confession.




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11eba7  No.771531[Reply]

Post your favorite traditional Christian music of any genre. Here are a few of my favorites:

Great Gospel song from the greatest singer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5bk6Epd4qg

Not solely Christian, but helps me remember to not fret about Earthly problems as much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5i4ZGVQGa8

The crown jewel of Handel's Messiah, makes me tear up every time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg7aXEvCeXY

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23a255  No.773167

>>772445

>They change lyrics of the liturgy use of God to I, making it change from third-person to first-person. This screams blasphemy to me

I don't think blasphemy makes sense in the context of a lyric/poem where the 'character' of the speaker is ambiguous. It's not exactly the same as a priest blatantly telling his followers that he is their lord, as a matter of fact when preaching. The medium itself let's the listener detach the words from the singer, and attribute them to whoever makes the most sense in that context (i.e. Jesus).

I mean, it could've still been done intentionally to be edgy and "blasphemous", but I think that backfired spectacularly considering most of the comments on their videos ended up being pro Christian, lol.


c99cde  No.773172

>>773167

I get the sense it's a backfiring too. The first recommended I saw on youtube for them was a live recording at something called Hellfest. They were wearing traditional heiromonk robes with inverted orthodox crosses and what looked like an icon of Christ with an animal head on it.


6b66f1  No.773194

>>773172

>>773167

I mostly was just interested in an english translation of the lyrics. I think whether or not "it's christian" depends mostly on what it's being used for, not whether or not "it is" – like all art, I suppose. For instance, the song "Painkiller" by Judas Priest can easily be considered christian, imo.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM__lPTWThU

>http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/judas-priests-rob-halford-praying-absolutely-works/


6b66f1  No.773195

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

e9eb6b  No.773200

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

God's gonna cut you down




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4bcd1c  No.773193[Reply]

Alleged abuse of deaf children on 2 continents points to Vatican failings…

Vulnerable to the extreme, the deaf students tended to come from poor families that fervently believed in the sanctity of the church. Prosecutors say the children were fondled, raped, sometimes tied up and, in one instance, forced to wear a diaper to hide the bleeding.

http://archive.today/2019.02.20-041354/https://expo.nola.com/news/g66l-2019/02/6a940a7e9a5548/the-pope-ignored-them-alleged-abuse-of-deaf-children-on-two-continents-points-to-vatican-failings.html

LUJAN DE CUYO, Argentina - When investigators swept in and raided the religious Antonio Provolo Institute for the Deaf, they uncovered one of the worst cases yet among the global abuse scandals plaguing the Catholic Church: a place of silent torment where prosecutors say pedophiles preyed on the most isolated and submissive children. The answer, according to a Washington Post investigation that included a review of court and church documents, private letters, and dozens of interviews in Argentina and Italy, is that church officials up to and including Pope Francis were warned repeatedly and directly about a group of alleged predators that included Corradi. "I want Pope Francis to come here, I want him to explain how this happened, how they knew this and did nothing," a 24-year-old alumna of the Provolo Institute said, using sign language as her hands shook in rage. Students at the school were smacked if they used sign language. The Italian victims' efforts to sound the alarm to church authorities began in 2008 and included mailing a list of accused priests to Francis in 2014 and physically handing him the list in 2015.

Soon, more than a dozen other former students were telling their stories, using an improvised mix of sign language and limited speech. In a news conference, he called the allegations "a hoax, a lie, and nothing more," and he noted the association for former students was involved in a property diPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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4566bd  No.745436[Reply]

Are people really paid to shill here?

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6c2d68  No.772460

I'm literally on a jesuit payroll. Because there is nothing more important than shitposting to annoy a handful of ortholarps on an anime board


1a48e2  No.772461

>>772459

Kikes hate the Christ, and we know for sure they actively try to disrupt /pol/, is it too much of a stretch to assume they don't do the same here?


1dcf86  No.772474

>>772461

Here's how these sort of campaigns actually work:

a)public blanketism of internal discourse via big groups of NEET's, aka 50 cent armies in China and Russia;

b)if the group is relatively smaller and somwhat close to their ideology, entryism(what Stormfront did to halfchan /pol/)

c)well-organized targeted campaigns to slander X or promote their viewpoint among the general population;

No decently organized group is gonna waste time and money posting, once in a blue moon, some mildly inflammatory things on sites that are tangentially related to an offshot of their supposed target(even assuming /pol/'s invocation of the JIDF boogeyman is NOT just a combination of their posters's self-importance and paranoia, comparable to /x/ screaming "Disinfo!", "Gov Shill!" whenever someone calls them stupid)


35524d  No.772490

>>745436

This is such a relatively unpopular board that it blows my mind people believe this. Yeah I don't doubt the government has people watching /pol/ and /b/ on halfchan, and maybe even posting sometimes to try to datamine or influence the conversation. But doing that with every little board would be expensive and unproductive.


f5cefe  No.773186

>>745733

the only time I'd imagine any paid political shills come here are in actual political threads

if you notice these guys in /pol/ and /tv/, they actually rarely post outside of certain threads. they probably get paid for specific shilling objects (all of /pol/, certain attempts at swaying public opinion on /tv/, /v/, etc)




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652ff5  No.772479[Reply]

Hello guys, new guy here.

I was raised Catholic, and only recently started to look into other denominations within christianity.

Until now I believed that reformed christians are also protestants however I recently heard my new neighbours claiming that they are reformed christians, but they are not protestant. So what is the distinction between them? Are they closer to catholicism?

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e62940  No.773055

>>773036

To add to this, the shepherd-sheep relationship in the NT never suggests a single greatest authority figure

>The New Testament uses these metaphors with less variance. In the Gospels, shepherd denotes Jesus Christ, who is associated with the lost sheep of Israel, except in quoting Zech 13:7 when the reference to sheep refers to the disciples of Jesus (Matt 26:31; Mark 14:27). Outside the Gospels, sheep refers to believers in the church (Heb 13:20), whereas shepherd denotes either Christ (Heb 13:20; 1 Pet 1:25; 5:4; Rev 7:17) or a pastor (Acts 20:28; 1 Pet 5:2).

from "Pastoral Ministry: The Ministry of a Shepherd" Ch 8

Peter saw his role as an elder/bishop/overseer as equivalent to every other elder

<1 Therefore, I exhort the elders among you, as your fellow elder and witness of the sufferings of Christ, and a partaker also of the glory that is to be revealed,

<2 shepherd the flock of God among you, exercising oversight not under compulsion, but voluntarily, according to the will of God; and not for sordid gain, but with eagerness;

<3 nor yet as lording it over those allotted to your charge, but proving to be examples to the flock.

<4 And when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the unfading crown of glory. (1 Pet. 5:1-4 NAS)


4f0694  No.773062

>>773000

nice trips

… and even nicer laying out of TULIP with scriptural attestation

i was also wondering what denom someone might come from if they claimed to be 'reformed but not protestant', because it would be very difficult to hold to the 5 points and not protest RC dogma, unless they know absolutely nothing of Roman Catholic teaching


d41f68  No.773117

>>773024

>no free will at all

No autonomous will. We have a creaturely will, but only God is autonomous.

>>773062

I'm at a loss as to what denom he might be.

Most, if not all, Reformed Christians realize that they're Protestant, so unless he's part of some non-denomination Reformed church, I can't imagine why he might reject the Protestant label.

Maybe he prefers Evangelical? But then again, that carries a lot of baggage these days.


2e5c14  No.773124

>>773117

>No autonomous will. We have a creaturely will, but only God is autonomous.

So……. in other words….. no free will.


a09a00  No.773183

>>773124

lol, calvinism is the original "black pill"

fallacious argument resulting in anti-God theology




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ec17cd  No.703403[Reply]

Does anyone listen to Christian music? I'm a catholic but I find it soothing and helpful spiritually. It focuses my mind on God.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XUKNSqS3C8&t=1276s

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3cf776  No.773068

>>761238

Sounds very unpleasant to listen to


4813d1  No.773077

>>773068

Are you deaf?


26fe06  No.773094

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>703403

My new favourite


088323  No.773179




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f3e52b  No.772660[Reply]

I know I'm probably going to get banned for this thread but… What do you find wrong with the Roman Catholic (and Eastern Orthodox) religion? Why do you choose to follow Biblical Christianity instead? RCCs/Orthos/Anglicans/Luthers are not allowed in this thread. Too often do I see le apostolics bitching about our theology but whenever we refute them the mods just ban us so hopefully we can create a thread where we don't get banned.

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7e8d2f  No.773111

>>773110

>works are necessary for justification.

So how is that sola fide if fide is not sola? Justification is how one merits salvation, so you essentially just said that works is a soteriological matter. I think you need to clarity your theology a bit more.


29118f  No.773116

>>773111

Do I need to remind you that there are five solae?

Read here for the justification presentation: https://carm.org/are-we-justified-faith-romans-or-works-james

You are justified if you have the faith that manifests in works, but not by virtue of those works.


7e8d2f  No.773120

>>773116

>You are justified if you have the faith that manifests in works, but not by virtue of those works.

That truly pleasing works are a byproduct of faith should does not reduce them merely to a part of faith, nor does it subtract from the merit they add to a faithful man. Each man, as Christ said, is rewarded for his works. Those who work good receive good for it, and those who work evil, particularly those who do works to merit reward and not for God, receive evil as well, if they are not penitent. Matthew 25 says the same, as does Trent.

>Before men, therefore, who have been justified in this manner,-whether they have preserved uninterruptedly the grace received, or whether they have recovered it when lost,-are to be set the words of the Apostle: Abound in every good work, knowing that your labour is not in vain in the Lord; for God is not unjust, that he should forget your work, and the love which you have shown in his name; and, do not lose your confidence, which hath a great reward. And, for this cause, life eternal is to be proposed to those working well unto the end, and hoping in God, both as a grace mercifully promised to the sons of God through Jesus Christ, and as a reward which is according to the promise of God Himself, to be faithfully rendered to their good works and merits. For this is that crown of justice which the Apostle declared was, after his fight and course, laid up for him, to be rendered to him by the just judge, and not only to him, but also to all that love his coming. For, whereas Jesus Christ Himself continually infuses his virtue into the said justified,-as the head into the members, and the vine into the branches,-and this virtue always precedes and accompanies and follows their good works, which without it could not in any wise be pleasing and meritorious before God,-we must believe that nothing further is wanting to the justified, to prevent their being accounted to have, by those very works which have been done in God, fully satisfied the divine law according to the state of this life, and to have truly merited eternal life, to be obtained also in its (due) time, if so be, however, that they depart in grace: seeing that Christ, our Saviour, saith: If any one shall drink of the water that I wPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


9ef33b  No.773121

>>773065

blackpilled, in a sense. Most people aren't going to heaven.


10a535  No.773173

>>773076

Are these truly the best objections one can have? They're all strawmen you can find out the reasons why with Google.




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e8b0d0  No.770822[Reply]

If a pope openly says that you don't have to believe in God to be Catholic and says that Jesus wasn't a real person, is that Pope still a pope? If the Pope openly claims they are not Catholic anymore but they have converted to Buddhism, but insists that a Buddhist can be Pope and still claims to be Pope, is he still Pope? Who can judge him?

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56b9f1  No.772099

If Benedict was coerced into resigning, and they replaced him with Francis… Good God, I am worried about the state of the bishops, cardinals and pope. Is there any real hope of saving the Church from their errors? Did freemasonry conquer Her from within? Is our Church in the hands of the Evil One? The pope is the pope and we should pray for him every day, and I will do so, but where will this madness end? The dubia has failed… the counterattack has been inflicted… God's people labor in agony it seems to me.


56b9f1  No.772100

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>>772099

Stopping short of going full blown sedevacantist (the "Catholic" version of Protestant), what are we to do in order to win this battle? What can we do?


4b52c1  No.772101

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>>772100

The laity needs to speak up and let their voices be heard.


e8b0d0  No.772856

>>772100

Currently my viewpoint is that while I wouldn't claim to be a sede, I don't think their views are that crazy. I don't think we have enough information to be held accountable to not take the sede route. I have a lot more respect for SSPX too, and at this point I don't trust anything coming out of the church. I expect things to only get worse though and not better - there are a lot of people who think these things will be cleared up and we'll have some sort of widespread trad revival or something but I am quite confident that we have entered end times. If you consider the world was supposed to be for only around 6000 years the timing makes perfect sense too. I also view the canonizations as highly suspicious. It's a possibility that they had deathbed conversions but by no means are their lives worthy of heroic virtue, and they are political. I believe a large amount of bishops and cardinals do not believe the catholic faith. It may be a majority of them actually.

As for winning the battle we first of all have to work very hard on ourselves to become holy, lots of prayer and penance first of all. Once we reach a sufficient state of holiness we evangelize more. We cannot fix the corruption the the church. The antichrist is coming soon and the great apostasy is underway. We can save some people from falling away and there are still people who are converting into the church. But there will be no big fixes, the mass apostasy will come into full effect, and then the antichrist will come and majority of people will worship him as God. Then Elias and Enoch will show up and help us out. We have to keep the faith and stay strong.


cce485  No.773164

>>770825

>Believe it.

Thanks, Naruto.




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f0c499  No.772378[Reply]

I need some advice /christian/

I come from a Baptist/evangelical family, I decided to convert to Catholicism in August and am currently going through RCIA classes. My parents have largely been neutral or receptive to this. Recently I learned that my mother, an active member of her Baptist Church in my hometown will be going on a trip to Greece with others from her church put on by the International Mission Board. They'll be going to a camp outside of Athens that the UN abandoned, and that there will be others to help them out. According to my mother they'll be mostly doing Baptist ministries to a community that purportedly is actually in need and not just migrating into Europe. This is all according to my mother, I'm taking her at her word.

While I do feel sympathy for those in need, I also know that the mere presence of these migrants has caused an immense amount of trouble in Greece and in Europe. Now my mother isn't blind to that, but she insists that this is something she's led to do and that she'll be ministering to these people and genuinely helping them. I set aside my Catholic beliefs, knowing I wouldn't convince her about those in an evening over the phone and explained to her that although I knew her intentions were good, that her helping these migrants would only serve to aid and abet the wider phenomenon of mass migration into Europe, that ultimately less good would be done in the long run. Additionally, I expressed a concern for her safety, if the UN abandoned the last camp, heaven knows what could be in store. I explained my case briefly over the phone and she said that while I was welcome to keep in contact with her about it, she ultimately felt that God was calling her to go to Greece.

Here's where you all come in. I'm going to be writing up a case, a proper argument against her going to Greece (more so for my own sake). I can find plenty of evidence in relation to the migrant crisis. If you can, because my knowledge of Scripture, its interpretation on the matter is not befitting, any and all Scriptural arguments I can use. I trust that this body of believers can be of some assistance. In order to assure you all that I'm not simply shirking my work onto others, I will be pursuing the line of inquiry into Old Testament Law, how the IsraPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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c1384a  No.772600

>>772586

You're forgiven

I empathise with your zeal against shitskin invaders


ce05f6  No.772689

>>772385

Makes sense, western people are starting to learn anabaptists are full of shit so they're going to target Africans next


f0c499  No.773095

OP here.

After some time to think I decided to rescind the construction of a proper case. I realized that It wouldn't matter what I said, my mother will still go, whether or not God has actually called her to go. I called her to tell her I still think she shouldn't go, but recognized it was her decision to make. She was very gracious about it, and specifically requested me to send information about the current state of affairs in Greece. Please pray for her safety nevertheless.

Thanks all.


8348b8  No.773148

>>772525

Ah, yes. Let's aide and abet criminality. Make sure they are comfy!


88b3fc  No.773151

>>773148

Learn to read




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b7cf74  No.741246[Reply]

Whats /christian/ take on meditation?

Heresy, or another way to find god?

I personally find a great instrument to find spiritual peace, become aware to the present and feel gods grace, And you know, mute those perky nasty thoughts.

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800b0c  No.762770

>>762728

You're perogative if you respond or not but if you think that in anyway you speak truth or I falsehood where we disagree then I would ask u to consider that said falsehoods (from your perspective) going unchallenged could lead anons to be misled if you don't reply


b7cf74  No.772532

Quick bump, sorry anon, I will reply eventually but I kinda lost it with other stuff.


c2f3c4  No.772655

>>772532

lol nice to know anon, await your reply in your own time. Just impressed you retained the same ID throughout, does that mean your machine has been turned on and connected to the internet continuously since at least mid December when you made your first reply?


43542a  No.773129

>>772655

He could just use static ip


162e84  No.773135

>>741246

Prayer is a form of meditation, I'd wager.




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f43b5c  No.763310[Reply]

What are some good Christian YouTubers who use their platform in order to speak truth and guidance? Is Fr. Mike Schmitz good?

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0ea53e  No.771863

>>771261

I know how confirm it. Sedes are even more crazy about their succession laws than even the staunchest Catholics.

>>771217

Believe all the footnotes you want, won't make either of those bozos more or less holier-than-thou than they already are.

Damn gnostics.

Let me see them do miracles, if they're beyond doing charity and helping those in need.

Otherwise let them spew whatever vile upon others. God will sort us all out either way.


23741d  No.771923

If you're interested in geopolitics from a Christian perspective, Blackstone Intelligence is pretty good:

https://www.youtube.com/user/prepare333


6ea129  No.771932

I'm pretty fond of Theopneustos man.


1e13db  No.772454

I found Brohoshaphat G here 2 years ago and his casual discussions have been perfect to watch for breakfast. He also talks about porn addiction and how to get rid of it in great detail so thats a bonus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fByfeIPCK-w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrblCLUxJpg


44c480  No.773109

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.




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