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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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5684f4  No.769010[Reply]

Feminism, paganism, and chivalry are all one and the same. It's the worship of female idols and cuckoldry. The discarding and worthlessness of the male. From the fedoras and LARPagans own arguments, women can do no wrong, and anything that happens is always the fault of a man. In modern entertainment, the man in a show is always some inept fool, and his woman is wise and makes a mockery of him. This is exactly what Varg preaches as well, and that men are to be shamed for not letting women become wise witches and lesbians.

A common argument, seen even from some Christians here, is that a woman does not have to submit to a man if he is not worthy of her. God, however, commands women to submit to their husbands in everything, no matter what their feelings are. This is the order that God commanded, and it is not to be questioned.

Ephesians 5:22-24

>Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.

1 Peter 3:1-2

>Likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word, they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives, when they see your respectful and pure conduct.

1 Timothy 2:11-12

>Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.


>Husbands are not called to ALWAYS lead, but wives are called to ALWAYS obey.

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5684f4  No.769060

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Atheism and LARPaganism are hardly Right-wing, anon.

4e7799  No.769064


The key is to repecc whamen but not to let them go above you. Treat them with equality and love them as Christ loves His Church

f85ce6  No.769094

a5bac6  No.769104


I know brother, I'm just laughing at the supposed far-right.

t. apolitical monarchist

3c9950  No.769914

I've seen a lot of woman worship threads on /pol/ lately. This thread is a breath of fresh air. If I see another "based aryan woman" thread I'm going to gouge my eyes out.

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3e50b5  No.768174[Reply]

How do I quit smoking?

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6854f6  No.769377


Medical studies have shown that people who stop outright are around 30% more likely to remain smoke free long term, compared to people who cut down gradually. The study was over a 5 year period.

If you don't want to do something, don't do it. It isn't easy, but consciously and continuously remind yourself that you don't want to smoke, state your reasons, make it clear, say it out loud.

It often helps to replace a bad habit with a good one, aversion therapy. Redirect your focus and interest to something else, every time you feel the urge to smoke. Perhaps start picking up a pen and writing a sentence about your thoughts every time the urge for smoking comes into your head. That will occupy your hand, as well as your head, and can be done almost anywhere.

The main part of the habit will be broken after 3-4 weeks, the chemical addiction will have left your system, and the habit will have faded in your brain, the only idea left might be an idea of 'comfort', which you can choose to ignore as you know it is not rational.

Staying away from people who smoke also helps a great deal.

6854f6  No.769380


For porn/masturbation, have a look at the website "your brain on porn", it should help.

The first couple of weeks are the hardest, after that it will occupy your thoughts less as time goes on. After a few months your brain will feel a lot cleaner, less constant flashes of porn-type ideas in your head. Stopping porn is the most important part, once you have done that, and beaten it, masturbation won't feel like such a strong urge anymore. It is the porn that formed the habit and made it so incessant, the hunting for porn.

For the first two or three weeks, stay very busy, stay around other people as much as possible, and reduce your privacy by leaving your curtains and door open. Going on a camping trip or somewhere with no internet will help a lot too.

If you slip up, don't make a big deal out of it, just think that you've managed to be porn-free for a few days and that's positive. Then start again. Even if it takes 20 attempts, it is worth it, and you will become more in control over it the more you try.

First step for me was deleting all my saved porn. Some people use a porn filter, but I didn't. It can help to limit which websites you go on though, even if you are doing it just consciously. Don't go on imageboards apart from perhaps this one. Some people use an image blocker so the browser doesn't display any images at all no matter what.

Also, redirecting your energy towards exercise helps a lot. It is a simple activity where you don't have to think too much, makes you feel good from the chemicals it releases, and is a positive alternative. Read how to do good quality pushups and start there. Going for a walk away from the computer helps a lot too.

78b0ae  No.769732

Hey guys.

Just wanted to thank you all for the suggestions, I really appreciate it. It's really nice to see real concern from anons.

I found the PDFs specially helpful. Surprisingly, the first one, although loony sounding, is helping me quite a bit. I just internalized the fact that smoking does not actually help me relax and relieve my stress/anxiety/anger so it's actually pretty useless. Hopefully I can keep this up.

c64258  No.769901


That book actually hampered my chastity efforts, in hindsight.

ad0ec0  No.769903


Good to hear, fren.

Hopefully I’ll kick my addictions too.

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1712e4  No.765465[Reply]

Catholic dioceses throughout Texas on Thursday identified 286 priests credibly accused of sexually abusing minors as far back as 1941.


Altogether, 14 state dioceses, including Dallas and Austin, released one of the largest collection of names since the Pennsylvania grand jury report last July. The diocese in Fort Worth began listing credibly accused clergy online in 2007, but the other 14 Texas bishops promised to release names after a meeting last September.

Texas bishops listed the names to help victims heal and rebuild trust, Cardinal Daniel DiNardo of the Galveston-Houston Archdiocese said. He apologized in a statement and urged people to report any abuse.

"The crime of sexual abuse of minors is a grave crisis in the Church," DiNardo said. These sins have done great harm to the victims of the abuse and have deeply wounded the body of Christ, the Church. Those victimized by the clergy over the years need and deserve our prayers, outreach, and support."

The names of credibly accused Texas Catholic priests can be read on the diocese websites below:

Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston listed 40 priests since 1950.

Archdiocese of San Antonio listed 53 priests since 1941.

Diocese of Austin listed 22 priests.

Diocese of Amarillo listed 30 priests since 1950.

Diocese of Beaumont listed 13 priests.

Diocese of Brownsville listed 13 priests since 1965.

Diocese of Corpus Christi listed 26 priests since 1950.

Diocese of Dallas listed 31 priests since 1950.

Diocese of El Passo listed 30 priests since 1950.

Diocese of Fort Worth listed 17 priests in its latest update in October.

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8fbd33  No.766296


Do you know how the people coming in here, acting like they're proud of these predators, and who are coming here just to heap mocking and ridicule on the "others" without even an attempt to disavow the actions of the predators looks? It seems a lot to me like they are taking their side.

8fbd33  No.766301


I mean look at this guy. He's totally taking the side of the predators, to the point of making jocular comments about it even.

269778  No.766706


I don't care what you think seeing as you've already jumped the shark. My point is about 1,600 years old; St. Augustine pointed out that the reprobate would always afflict the elect, in the world and in the church.

I've prayed for my Church, and it seems like She is taking a turn and removing the reprobate from Her midst. What have you done for the Church of Christ? Mockery and reviling puts you on the side of satan.

1a071e  No.767662


Which brings us back to my original post. Those posters have ZERO SHAME for coming in here and acting like its all a joke when they have no answer for the gross evil they defend.

>I don't care what you think seeing as you've already jumped the shark.

By calling out the gross evil of the abuse and predators which the above posters defend? That's what I've been doing.

>Mockery and reviling puts you on the side of satan.

Which is what >>765654



are doing when they came in this thread! It's like the whole lot of you are false-accusing devils who don't take responsibility for your own actions. You defend the molestors AND the people who come in here mocking the fact, all while making false accusations all the time.

af9ae2  No.769870

>this thread

And this is why I will never go Rome

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52aad9  No.767093[Reply]

Pope admits priests, bishops abused nuns…

Francis said some clergy had been suspended for mistreating sisters. But he also noted that the mistreatment of women is a problem in society at large, where women are still considered “second-class citizens.”


ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE (AP) — Pope Francis has for the first time publicly acknowledged the scandal of priests and bishops sexually abusing nuns and says he is committed to doing more to fight the problem. Speaking to reporters Tuesday, Francis noted that Pope Benedict XVI had taken action against a France-based order after some of its religious sisters had been reduced to “sexual slavery” at the hands of the priest who founded the order and other priests. “Should we do something more? Yes. Is there the will? Yes. But it’s a path that we have already begun,” Francis said while returning home from the United Arab Emirates.

“It’s not that everyone does this, but there have been priests and bishops who have,” Francis added. “And I think that it’s continuing because it’s not like once you realize it that it stops. It continues. And for some time we’ve been working on it.” The issue has come to the fore amid the Catholic Church’s overall reckoning with the sexual abuse of minors and the #MeToo-inspired acknowledgement that adults can be victims of abuse whenever there is an imbalance of power in a relationship. In the past year, The Associated Press and other media have reported on cases of abused nuns in India, Africa, Europe and South America — evidence that the problem is by no means limited to a certain geographic area. In November, the organization representing all the world’s female Catholic religious orders, the International Union of Superiors General, publicly denounced the “culture of silence and secrecy” that prevented nuns from speaking out and urged sisters to report abuse to their superiors and police. And just last week, the women’s magazine of the Vatican newspaper L’Osservatore Romano identified tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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a70eeb  No.769799


Perhaps he's wondering why someone would judge a man, before throwing him into the fire

57efe1  No.769817

>>769799 (checked)

>Oh a sinner huh? At least you can repent.

>Who are you?

4e3ceb  No.769867


This is the same response he gives every time priests are caught touching people.

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122324  No.767953[Reply]

_ was the worst thing to happen to christian thought.

Please don't post "Luther"

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832ae5  No.769776


Thank God the Catholic doctrine isn't made by the people.

70% of the American Catholic population are excommunicated and they don't even know it.

99341a  No.769778



1fc912  No.769795



eb214d  No.769842


But why don't they know it?

Where is the church discipline?

38f6e0  No.769855


Because the US bishops themselves want to push that shit to live according to the American values.

The typical America right, Rome wrong.

No wonder that most pedo shit comes from America.

>Where is the church discipline?

I make myself the same question.

Only important people get that when they are being heretics beyond protestantism.

Otherwise they are defended by their national bishops, like it happens thousands of times in America.

Someone let things go to far.

If the discipline was applied correctly more than half of the clergy would be excommunicated alongside 90% of the laity.

Nevertheless I think it should be done.


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65baea  No.746123[Reply]

I have been jacking off ever since I was exposed to pornography at 13, I am 22 now and this is still my biggest and most agregious folly against the Lord. To a myriad of degenerate material over the years I have been indulging, I want to be rid of it. Every time I do it I pray to the Lord for forgiveness and help from this disease but I go right back and spit on the blessing’s I’ve been given and I go back and do it again and again. Please help me brothers, how do I stay away from the lusts that drive me to pornography and eschew this from my life, I fear my spiritual integrity and limp dick.

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d28fd8  No.769556


God bless you

d4bbe9  No.769606

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And by the way, remember this quote in the game.

(BIG SPOILER of this game for anyone who has not played it)

I wouldn't know if it's a liberty that the fan translation took or if it's the original Japanese text, but it's pretty good anyway.

598f53  No.769642


Well shit. In actually though, what i am really hoping for is mother 4. But i don't think it's going to happen either..


Based. But what do you think about the magypsies? They look like men that dress as women.

e91735  No.769849

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>But what do you think about the magypsies?

They are obviously are a running gag of homosexuals, they are there to be mocked and to be the relief aspect of the game.

e91735  No.769850


Spoiler pic, I forgot to put the veil.

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c50a55  No.769582[Reply]

20 years, 700 victims: Southern Baptist sexual abuse spreads…

Southern Baptist sexual abuse spreads as leaders resist reforms


Thirty-five years later, Debbie Vasquez's voice trembled as she described her trauma to a group of Southern Baptist leaders. She was 14, she said, when she was first molested by her pastor in Sanger, a tiny prairie town an hour north of Dallas. It was the first of many assaults that Vasquez said destroyed her teenage years and, at 18, left her pregnant by the Southern Baptist pastor, a married man more than a dozen years older. In June 2008, she paid her way to Indianapolis, where she and others asked leaders of the Southern Baptist Convention and its 47,000 churches to track sexual predators and take action against congregations that harbored or concealed abusers. Vasquez, by then in her 40s, implored them to consider prevention policies like those adopted by faiths that include the Catholic Church.

"Listen to what God has to say," she said, according to audio of the meeting, which she recorded. "… All that evil needs is for good to do nothing. … Please help me and others that will be hurt." Days later, Southern Baptist leaders rejected nearly every proposed reform. The abusers haven't stopped. They've hurt hundreds more.

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ba4207  No.769791


We get an unbalanced view from the media concerning these things. Truth be told, pastoral support was never intended to by a daycare, and no matter who you entrust your child to for any length of time, nothing will change the fact that you're just handing them over to another sinner.

1db583  No.769792


>We get an unbalanced view from the media concerning these things. Truth be told, Catholic priestly support was never intended to by a daycare, and no matter who you entrust your child to for any length of time, nothing will change the fact that you're just handing them over to another sinner.

508310  No.769828


Well you’re correct. There’s no such thing as children’s ministry in Catholicism; that’s recognized as the parents job.

c5884f  No.769841


How is that whining?

ba4207  No.769859


Now that is whining, pastoral support includes Catholic pastoral support. I was making a generalization, but it wasn't good enough for you. Your insecurity is showing.

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71f9f8  No.753756[Reply]

What are you actually supposed to eat, if at all. I know its not about the food itself but I just can't really what are you actually permitted to eat

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9a84a8  No.769807


Wtf is that true?

If they are the natural daughters of Allah, like Christ is the natural son of the real God (which logically makes him God because same substance etc) does that mean moors believe in the Holy Quaternary?

9a84a8  No.769809

My priest said it was OK to eat a bit of meat on Fridays as long as I made other sacrifices.

Mostly when I eat meat on Fridays it's because its the leftovers from Thursday and I don't want to trash food.

There are even countries where the rules said you can eat meat if you want any Friday (except during Lent of course) as long as you make other sacrifices that day for example in the USA. It depends whether the Holy See has granted a dispensation on that country. Can't find anything about my shithole though.

But I do praise Eastern Catholics and Orthodoxes for their fasts.

cb2ee0  No.769811


Fasting from anything that controls you is a good idea. It could be alcohol, but not necessarily. It could be "video games" or some other media (seems to be a common concern here, telling from threads), but not necessarily. Include whatever this is along with food advice that's mentioned here. :)

1ad775  No.769816

Why are threads made about this stuff? Churches (whichever you belong to) are usually pretty clear on practical requirements

cb2ee0  No.769818


Well, it is a better subject to talk about than the aforementioned video game threads I just mentioned :)

Lets just take joy in talking Christian related things. We've already got enough bannings.. how about we get board discussion moving, so the it doesn't all die out?

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1274db  No.762321[Reply]

Given the Week of Prayer for Christian Unity just finished one or 2 days ago, and we haven't had a good old thread about this in a time, here's a place to celebrate what we have in common, so that "we may all be one"(John 17:21):




Common agreements:

Catholic-Eastern Orthodox:

Chieti Declaration:


Ravenna Document:


Other info:


Eastern Orthodox-Oriental Orthodox:

Collection of common declaration:


Pastoral Agreements between the Patriarchs of Alexandria recognizing some of the sacraments:

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d46daf  No.768623

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>Anglicans aren't apostolic though

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the good feels time just ended.

There it is folks, 49 minutes 50 seconds, a new world record for /christian/ avoiding emphasising why those people aren't good and godly like us

e6fcf0  No.769699


Anglicans lost true apostolic succession a long time ago. We have an unbroken line, but our theological intention and rites are totally broken and heretical. The only way for Anglicans to get back into succession is to reconcile with Rome or Orthodoxy.

I vote we go Orthodox and become the English Orthodox Church. Anglican Communion won't last another 70 years in the protestant world.

T. Anglican

40a620  No.769727


>why those people aren't good and godly like us

they literally do not have the apostolic succession. this isn't some arbitrary thing the Catholic Church throws around, they still admit the Orthodox Church still maintains it.

if you do not have the apostolic succession, they are not an apostolic church.


ab9476  No.769783


God willing, that still can happen somehow. The Orthodox were willing to incorporate Anglicans/Episcopalians in the 19th/early 20th century. There was a wing of Anglicans still in love with tradition enough to see this as the right thing, but they weren't enough.. and now that wing of Anglicanism is even a smaller minority today. Anglicans/Episcopalians chose the other direction and seemingly got devoured by unbelief and indifference throughout the 20th century. The only choice now is just to flee completely.

I think the Orthodox are the only ones who benefited from any of these talks. From those times, it produced a service book (the Hapgood version) and had help translating the liturgy that was also intended for the hope of a Western/Anglican rite. The Antiochian parishes still rely on a lot of this KJV/Book of Common Prayer English… but it wasn't just intended for them.

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be3a05  No.766664[Reply]

It's against natural law. I'm curious, did you start doing because someone told you about it or started doing it without outside influence?


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19f691  No.768672

I remember getting aroused as far back as 5 years old, I used to fiddle the diddle when seeing women on tv, and I was always thinking of slaying but I never really started masturbating until I was 13, started getting into porn and honestly that's when things went downhill and I became beta. Sex is the type of thing that you definitely don't need to have constantly, having some sexual energy all the time is a good thing because it energizes you to move forward. I think Catholic teaching on having sex with one women for procreation is the ideal way to do things

8153ae  No.768718


>Katja Kassin

8153ae  No.768727


Firstly, look what God did;


He revealed that I wanted to know what this 'Katja Kassin' woman looked like to everyone. Even though I don't masturbate anymore, I still like to look at women - and I swear Jesus said that looking at a woman with lust = adultery.

This is the fruit of sodomy. When I was 12, I had sex with another boy. I imagined myself and him as lesbians - so I wasn't even loving him on any level. I wasn't even a true homosexual - he was just a sex toy to me.

So, it was easy to just move over to masturbation after this.

1d2054  No.769660


>crying about touching your pee-pee

It is a mortal sin which is one of the easiest to commit and that makes it quite worrisome.

d11711  No.769695


Abortion prevents life

Contraception prevents life

Masturabtion prevents life

I'm not saying jerking off is murder, but I do understand the perspective of why it should be avoided as much as abortion.

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e09d9e  No.765251[Reply]

Seeing one's eyes can tell a lot about a person. It is curious how much people can tell about you just from the way you look/your overall attitude.

I had an experience:

Me and my friends were having a party, playing some game which was….at the very least very very offensive to social conventions, but even to morals.

See I am not the kind of guy who goes around moralizing people, trying to appear sanctimonious. I do wear a cross on my neck but it is concealed under my clothing. When someone asks, I say that I go to church etc. I make no bones about what I believe if it comes to a debate but I do not advertise myself freely.

Here one of the friends, we never talked about religion, we barely know each other. But I noticed she does not like me very much instintcively. Seeing her library once at her place I noted she has plenty of secular/Enlightenment books along with Churchill books, then liberal stuff.

So we played the game and she did not want to take the turn because as she said "she would probably insult my beliefs" Taking look at what she had in her hands it was something like "The Bible is literally a sh*t" or along the lines

That day I understood you do not need to say anything and people get who you are just the way you present yourself, sometimes.

Not trying to make this my blog. I am curious if you had a similar experience. I had a few of them, similar ones. Also I do know few people who give off similar signals even though they do not mention being Christians.

Did something like this happen to you also?

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8e3c2e  No.768609

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f860b7  No.768614


Almost definitely not just confirmation bias, how many people do you meet who just glare daggers at you for no reason? It's pretty much common sense and perfectly intuitive that you can gain information about people from how they look (i.e. biology effects character as well as lifestyle and habits effecting looks [smoking causes rough skin, brain diseases cause blue hair, etc.]), as time goes on there's only likely to be further confirmation of the scientific validity of physiognomy.

2bd4b2  No.768961


Do not make friends with atheists

95bf78  No.768963

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>brain diseases cause blue hair

Took me a second to get

bd2c63  No.769650


>Physiognomy is real

as real as palmistry

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0105fb  No.768651[Reply]

So I got offered to tag along on a mission trip to the Philippines in October for about two weeks. What should I expect going into it? Are there toilets or are they savages like India? Are white people, especially Americans, hated there?

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222291  No.769155


>mission to the Philippines

>one of the most catholic countries in the world

>82% of the population is catholic


You might as well go spread the word in your neighborhood.


Converting muslims is like banging your head against a wall.

909163  No.769374

Why go to convert a country that ships their unbelievers off on boats to go work in other countries to monetarily support their old, faithful family members? The only Filipinos that need to be converted are the atheists that don't live in the Philippines.

d43a07  No.769397


Funnily, I think even many of those are believers. I was reading an article about Catholics in Japan (a very small number.. like 0.4% of a total Christian population is that is only 1% of of Japan).. and then even many of those are actually Filipino workers.

Not a Catholic, but I'm going to have to ask what someone else said: Why focus mission on a such a large Catholic country, when the rest of Asia has depressing numbers like this? Only South Korea has a large Christian population next to Philippines. I'm half-Asian myself, so this is near to my heart. A lot more countries need a bigger church presence. Not the actual Christian countries.

a10360  No.769399


Easy, Prots being Prots they try to ruin everything. The fact that OP hasn't come to chime in on his own thread is pretty telling.

300101  No.769578


>Converting muslims is like banging your head against a wall.


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542763  No.767307[Reply]

>My denomination? None, I read the Bible

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845779  No.769511


Why do Churches of different faiths try to combine together like a bad voltron? Is it so they have a better voting block?

1a7d95  No.769515


Money, I guess.. better way to maintain churches and have more funds…especially as each one individually has dwindled in extreme numbers over the 20th century (mainline Protestants dropped like flies pretty much).

1a7d95  No.769519

Just to add, it's also to fund more national or global efforts (shared publishing or learning materials, etc) that they struggled with on their own.

c9d9da  No.769551



They think unity permits compromising doctrine, when in reality unity is only an objective for the LOCAL church

96a850  No.769575


All of those mainliners are pretty much the same on doctrine though (individualistic, and only care about the Bible in the broadest of terms), so it's easy for them to unite. About the only difference is the government and liturgy (no small thing actually, but it is to them).

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10abbf  No.769479[Reply]

Saudis Hiding Real Location of Mount Sinai, Bible Researchers Claim…

The biblical Mount Sinai is traditionally placed in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, but some researchers say it could be located over a hundred miles eastwards on the Arabian Peninsula across the Gulf of Aqaba.


Ryan Mauro, the national security analyst at the non-profit anti-extremist Clarion Project, and the Doubting Thomas Research Foundation have released the results of a two-year joint search for the holy site in a documentary titled "Finding the Mountain of Moses: The Real Mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia". According to the new investigation, the actual place where Moses received the Ten Commandments is in Saudi Arabia, and the Kingdom is well aware of this fact. The documentary claims, based on several Christian, Jewish, and Islamic sources, that the biblical Mount Sinai is actually located in northwest Saudi Arabia. Ryan Mauro alleges that the Saudi government has been trying to conceal its location from the rest of the world using "fences, police, and a threat of force". He has interviewed locals and reached out to a person connected with jihadists to back up his claims.

Mauro claims key evidence is in jeopardy due to a $500 billion futuristic mega-city project, which is to be built in the coming years. "The Saudis are construction a super city that is planned to be 33 times the size of New York. If all of us don't take action, Saudi construction in the area may destroy key evidence and prevent excavation for the foreseeable future." He has launched a website to try and convince Saudi Arabia to preserve the site. The analyst believes that Jabal Maqla, one of the tallest mountains in the Arabian Peninsula and a peak on the mountain range of Jabal al-Lawz, is the actual place where Moses received the Ten Commandments. He invokes Moses' account from the book of Exodus and cites the blackened top of the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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12e0b4  No.769532

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>the red sea was more like a rice field

How the heck are you supposed to drown pharaoh and his army in a shallow rice field?

d047fa  No.769535


Tell me about it. It seems like yet another "higher critical" theory meant only to destroy people's faith and "demystify" the bible. While some trying to play nice with skeptics but don't want to give up faith try to rationalize that it wasn't as shallow in Moses' day.

I'm not sure the route St. Helen and her helpers guessed at though, but it wasn't that.. they believed Moses crossed a large body of water..but then somehow trekked back north into Egypt. Which is better obviously, but still a little strange why they'd do that.

Hence, the Gulf of Aqaba crossing into Arabia, at least for some who hold to a more literal view on what the "sea" actually may have been.

f5b3db  No.769565


Did they really? What a bunch of senseless vandals.

Most people don't know this, but that big cube (the Kaba) they all visit for the "Haaj" in Mecca was actually a Christian structure once.. and used to have icons of Jesus and Mary in it. Even Muhammad wasn't stupid enough to remove them.. but later Caliphs did. Now they all traipse about it, requiring it to be some holy site every Muslim needs to visit… for no reason whatsoever. They don't even know why they do it.. or know it was once Christian. Just like they insist the mount in Jerusalem is some holy place for them. lol. But for the time being, that's useful, since they troll the Jews from ever building a temple too.

3dbb2e  No.769567



Well they didn’t actually. This rock they blew up was at al-Lawz, which isn’t Mount Sinai. And we know from Paul that the rock didn’t remain at Sinai anyway.

f5b3db  No.769568


I would have preferred more investigation, rather than taking anyone's word. That's pretty much how Muslims think too.

Paul wasn't talking about the literal rock, but about the rock being Christ..as in the helper behind the Exodus.. as in the Angel of the Lord in all of the OT theophanies.

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1d436d  No.768492[Reply]

Is wearing a cross tacky? I have a simple cross I ordered and planned on buying a simple chain for it. Is it stupid to wear them? If not - under or over shirt?

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e48273  No.769482


If you wore that in the west literally no one will know it's a Christian cross

479fa4  No.769484


Thats what makes it a good conversation starter and a good way to get people to begome

c1ec39  No.769494


Right on. I have a simple steel cross too (although it's Latin, I'm still Orthodox in belief).

"And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God."

c66f47  No.769497


That's a crucifix and scapular.

550868  No.769504

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I found some beads at work, so I took a pen and pieces of plastic and wrapped them in electrical tape.

I don't wear it, but I keep it on my person 24/7 and sometimes hold it during prayer.

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