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Rules and Meta

Glory to God in the highest!

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QTDDTOT

Didn't see a qtddtot in the catalog, so I'm creating one. I'll start it off with this question. Is sodomy between a man and a woman sinful?

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Purity Thread/NoFap

27 You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Matthew 5:27-28

19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 1 Corinthians 6:19

8 Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Galatians 6:8

Post your Purity successes/woes/prayer requests/ etc.

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/christian/pol

>What is this thread?

The designated political discussion thread. Christians from all parts of the political spectrum are encouraged to discuss relevant political topics and ideas, as well as ask questions and hopefully recieve answers from all points of view. Anything related to politics that doesn't actively involve the Catholic/Orthodox/Protestant churches should go here, so if a politics thread is deleted, this thread is the reason why.

As a reminder:

All board rules apply to this thread, so keep things civil.

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Prayer Requests

“But I have prayed for you, that your faith would not fail. And you, when you have turned back, strengthen your brethren.”

Luke 22:32

Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition with thanksgiving, let your requests be known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your thoughts in Christ Jesus.

Philippians 4:6-7

Confess your offences to one another and pray for one another in order to be healed. The insistent prayer of a righteous person is powerfully effective!

James 5:16

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is it true

That I have to beg Jesus to forgive me for being born or I will burn in hell forever?

:(

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Meaning of chapter 33, verse 3 in the book of enoch?

>I saw there heavenly gates opening into heaven; three of them distinctly separated. The northern winds proceeded from them, blowing cold, hail, frost, snow, dew, and rain.

We all know the number 33 and 3, is important to many groups and many different aspects of the bible. From freemasons, to jesus himself. we have the trinity, 3 ways of finding god by asking, seeking, knocking. jesus prayed 3 times before his arrest and was put on the cross at the 3rd hour of the day, died at the 9th hour (3pm). 3 hours of darkness that covered the land. 3 is the number of resurrection. he was dead for 3 days and 3 nights. Just to name a few..

So, now we have the 3rd verse of chapter 33 in the book of enoch, and it references 3 gates to heaven, with all different types of maelstrom associated with them.

What is the meaning /christian/?

Thanks.

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Meme thread

New meme thread because the old one is autosaging, starting with a request: I need the exploitable 8ch logo, have this crop in return

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Bad parents general

About Honor thy father and thy mother. What do we do if our parents for abusive or uncaring?

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Prince Charles = Ortho?

"Witnesses say that when the prince arrived in Athos days after the death of Princess Diana almost seven years ago, it was Ephraim who induced him to join the faith. Closeted in a chamber alone with the abbot, Charles is believed to have made a "spiritual commitment" to Christian Orthodoxy"

>Prince Charles, the heir to the British throne and future head of the Anglican Church, is Ortho

I… what…?

uh, thoughts?

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Names & Numbers

Hello /christian/, I've been listening to the bible lately on Youtube and I have a couple questions. Specifically, early in the Bible before it gets to Jesus and all that it goes over the names of people and their family lineage in meticulous and one might say excruciating detail. It also goes over numbers for…something? in a chapter specifically named Numbers.

Can someone explain to me why these things were so important to record?

How much relevance does it hold today? Should I just skip to Jesus?

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Fiction/pop culture that led you back to Christ.

This might sound silly but is there anything non-religous that brought you back to Christ?

For me it was Solair. Even though he isn't Christian and there's a very high chance that he falls later in-game, there's just something about him that inspired me. His way of being a guiding light in the darkness that surrounds him. It showed me a small taste of how beautiful faith can be.

Did you ever experience something like this? Please note, this is not a rec thread on Christian fiction like Lewis or Tolkien. Just a personal thing that brought you close(r) to faith.

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Why did God create atheists? Sure you can say that the innate desire to worship, idolize, or put your faith into someone or something that everyone has if they are honest with themselves or have enough self-awareness and that therefore there are only theists and antitheists but why would He let humans utter words, messages, or thoughts that expresses “I don’t believe in God” or “God doesn’t exists”?

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>be me

>converted to Orthodox Christianity

>try to honor my atheist mother and lukewarm father but really just want to withdraw from them

>catechism says avoid association with atheists

What to do? Please let’s try to avoid denominational issues, concentrate on the issue.

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Can God cure my depression?

Can God heal me of my depression if others pray for me? I don’t think my depression has much to do with circumstances as I’ve done everything I can to be healthy, but more of my brain.

Would you pray for me?

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Orthodox General

Purpose

This thread is to help all the Orthodox anons on this board to gather their thoughts, uplift each other, share edifying materials, and ask important questions.

Glory be to God in all things.

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner.

Useful Links

Ancient Faith Radio: http://www.ancientfaith.com/

OrthodoxWiki: https://orthodoxwiki.org/Main_Page

Canons of the Seven Ecumenical Councils: http://www.intratext.com/IXT/ENG0835/_INDEX.HTM

The Orthodox Church in America: https://oca.org/

Orthodox Christianity (a site that hosts articles predominantly written by clergy): http://orthochristian.com/

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Finding a Denomination

I'm a believing Christian and have been for a few years now. I converted from being an atheist, but I have yet to fully join a denomination. I find many arguments from Protestants, Catholics, and Orthodox compelling. But the historical, intellectual, and even some theological arguments muddle my mind, I'm trying to find a congregation that helps me live the most Christian life that I can. How should I go about doing this? Attending services at different churches, or should I remain patient and continue to pray for guidance?

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Quick question: How do we know the false gods and goddesses are actually fallen angels?

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How have you prepared for the prosecution of Christians that will take place in the future? I think it will start during our lifetime.

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Rant:

Rant:

The Christian concept of atonement is extremely opaque. What would it mean for a messiah to die for someone else’s sins? Almost no Christians critically think about this, or about why God necessarily exists in Trinity rather than unity. Instead of engaging with these weighty philosophy issues, the average Christian is satisfied with “I believe in God and Jesus seems like he wouldn’t not be God.”

The one question no Christian seems to want to try to answer: How is what Christ went through fair, on any level? How could an injustice like the crucifixion ever be considered a good thing, a priori? How can injustice be good? If mercy over rides justice, then does Yahweh cease to be a God of law and order?

/rant…God Bless

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Baptism Advice

A few weeks ago learned that I may not have been baptized as a baby. Though I had though that I was, since my 3yrs older brother was. I was never confirmed (he was). As an adolescent/teenager we stopped going to church (only Christmas and Easter) and so it never really crossed my mind. We attended a Presbyterian Church, so we only did communion a few times a year.

I came back into the fold about 6 months ago, attending a Lutheran service, which has weekly communion. I had thought that I was baptized as a baby (why wouldn't I be?) and so participated in the Eucharist.

I will have to make sure that I wasn't baptized, but if not, how should I bring it up to the Pastor?

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Baptism

Do you believe in Baptism of Desire and Baptism of Blood? Why or why not?

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Any /reformed/ here?

Feels like the entire Protestant world is dying around us, but our churches are alive, not seeker-sensitive, not watering down scripture, and yet growing.

Do we need a general thread?

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Can I just go be a monk for like a year without having to lie and say I'm discerning? I just wanna take a break from the world

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Catholicism in Germany

Hello. I'm exploring the faith. I go to daily mass, tithe and say the rosary.

I've not been baptized. I'm hesitant to become a Catholic because I'm in Germany. I've been to many churches and essentially every parish tells me the same thing: it doesn't matter if it's trans-, consubstantiation or annihilation, all Christians should receive the Eucharist together. Latin Mass is only once every two weeks because the Bishop forbade doing it weekly.

If I get baptized I would have to pay ten percent tax on my income to the German Catholic Church, even though I tithe generously every Mass.

I understand that my soul is in peril as long as I'm not baptized but I can't I'm good conscience support the heretical homilies I'm hearing every day, advocating for ecumenism, female priests and married priests.

I pray you not judge me and instead tell me what you would do in my situation.

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"Orthodox Nationalist"

Hi brothers. I want your take on this podcast by Matthew Raphael Johnson. As a catholic, I listened for some time even though I considered the approach to be a bit larpy at some times.

Last few weeks I could not have wrapped my mind around him saying Notre Dame cathedral is just "middle class bourgeois attraction" and likened it to "cremation of the corpse" because nobody "knows the symbolism" etc.

Like..does the guy not realize that the building itself has a great value in its beauty and it can be a nucleus of resurrection of French people? The last thing I would expect from the guy is to liken it to "cremation of a corpse".

Truly disgusting. I no longer listen regularly but I was a bit shocked by such an introduction. He said he would expand upon it on "daily nationalist" but I do not think he ever did and I no longer listen to that anyway.

If you want to listen for yourself here

https://archive.radioaryan.com/TON/TON%20041719.mp3

It is on the beginning of the episode, the very first few minutes.

What is your take on this guy?

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At the first coming of Jesus, the people rejoiced. At the second coming, the people will mourn. Why won’t it be a supremely joyous event like the first time?

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Why does she so easily trigger prots?

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Will we see animals friends in heaven?

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How can the Sacred Humanity of our Lord be both created and eternal?

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Am I reprobate?

A little backstory

>be me, a teen

>depressed and lonely and wanted a partner to help me feel better

>been in 2 relationships with men as a teen (2 men, one being a trans-woman who later realized he was just gay and was encouraged to by his friends to think he was trans)

>never had sex, but realize how disgusting it is and how it leads to failed relationships

>it also failed to bring me joy, and made me more depressed

>called upon the name of the Lord in the midst of my depression

>constantly looked up Christian apologetics

>realized Christianity must be true

>still depressed

>still don't feel the Holy Spirit in me as a person

>still have same sex tendencies

I want to change my life around. I've read about half the Bible so far, and have constantly learned about Christian doctrine, but I still have severe anxiety that "God gave me over" to a reprobate mind to do these unnatural things, among other disgusting things I was (and still am) into. The last 3 things mentioned being, what I feel, is proof of "God giving me up". I don't know what to do at this point?

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Extent of Sodomy in the West Throughout History and Response of the Churches

The average person believes that sodomy is only few decades old and that before that it was unthinkable and had to be hidden, while in fact it was rather common in high society, Oscar Wilde famously comes to mind, or Marquis de Sade his "120 Days of Sodom" before that. I've just read this article about the liberal consumerist economist John Maynard Keynes, which claims that he had around 100+ homosexual encounters at the turn of the 19th century, and that sodomy was rather widespread:

>He had 65 encounters in 1909, 26 in 1910, 39 in 1911…

>The Cleveland Street Scandal of 1889 alerted wider society to the practice of men procuring GPO telegram delivery boys for cheap sex in makeshift brothels

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/john-maynard-keynes-new-biography-reveals-shocking-details-about-the-economists-sex-life-10101971.html

What was the true extent of sodomy in the West before 1960, in the 19th century, 18th century, 17th century and before that?

What have the churches done about this, and what was their excuse for not doing more?

Sodomy is a disease that spreads, statistics has proven this since it's more widespread in recent generations. Afflicted men infect unafflicted men and boys and the disease spreads, people rarely repent. Therefore if it was rooted out earlier a great evil could've been prevented, so why was it allowed to get this far.

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Catholic General

NON EST VERA LIBERTAS NISI IN SOLA ECCLESIA CATHOLICA

The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for general Catholic discussion. Mass, readings, rosary - everything that is connected with the faith.

Other denominations welcome, although we politely ask you to keep the arguments about our theological differences in other threads.

Useful links:

Official Vatican website: www.vatican.va

Today's readings: www.ewtn.com/daily-readings/

Papal encyclicals: www.papalencyclicals.net

Catholic encyclopedia online: www.newadvent.org/cathen/

Summa Theologiae of St. Thomas Aquinas online: www.newadvent.org/summa/

How to pray the rosary: www.rosarycenter.org/homepage-2/rosary/how-to-pray-the-rosary/

Divine Office (liturgy of the hours): www.divineoffice.org/welcome/

Little Office of the Immaculate Conception: www.catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?p=1925

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i wanna get more religious

so is the new king james version

a good bible to read ?

or is there a better version to read?

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Can someone please redpill me on why its not cool to apparently take the books of jasher, enoch etc seriously?

When I see that the current church curated bible consists of 66 books, and even references other books like enoch and jasher.. it really makes me think that we are not being told the full story, and these other books are vital reading.

Please, no youtube links, snarky comments, or memes. This is serious. Please answer in your own words if you could thank you.

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What’s the meaning of Matthew 5:19?

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Why didn't God let Jephthah lose? Surely He had that option, and then a human sacrifice would have been prevented. Don't give me that 'she lived as a consecrated virgin,' that didn't show up till WAY late. Augustine understood that she'd been slaughtered, and why would the Jews mourn in perpetual memory a consecrated virgin?

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Infinity Cup Update

A reminder that the preview stream for the 2019 Summer Infinity Cup is this Saturday, 3PM Eastern 7 PM UTC live on https://cytu.be/r/8cup. Entries will open up at the conclusion of the stream, and valid entries of a team name, logo, kits, and roster will be accepted up to July 20th.

>>>/8cup/3090

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Really makes you think…

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Ok. Granted God exists.

Why Jesus?

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How do you find an orthodox christian woman?

I don't want to approach a woman during church, it doesn't seem appropriate and I don't even know if they're married or not if i see one or how faithful they really are as at church many types of people can attend but not everyone is what you expect, some might be really obnoxious regardless of how often you see them at church, it seems as if it's an impossible task, and it's also worse since finding an attractive one is even harder, If I get too old as in over 35 I might just consider becoming a monk as there would be no point of not fully embracing God unless something was holding me back of course

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Love between a man and woman

Is love between a man and a woman real or simply a short affair of chemical hormones followed by desperately trying to "stay together"?

Read up on https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limerence

The Bible says that God designed a man and woman to become one flesh but then why isn't this desire to remain as one flesh stronger than the desire to cheat or have affairs after the "Limerence" period? Why even give us a short period like that which confuses reality with short term happy chemicals?

Who here is in a relationship and what are your details/experience? Aren't you worried that after the limerence phase of love and high emotions that exclusivity will be a torturous struggle between you and your partner? What stops you from being paranoid of a woman's unfaithfulness when she gets "bored"?

Is "love" even a real thing? Are feelings of boredom inevitable? Do Christians simply blot that feeling out with Bible verses and God?

Women tend to want exclusive long term partners more than men but women also tend to get bored when they lose the mystery of their partner. Why are we designed like this? It feels hopeless and superficial.

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brehs…

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Monastic Soldiers for the Church?

Essentially they would be religious orders of monks/brothers that are also PMCs/Classed as Armed Guards which train to serve in provision of security services to the Church, and defending it in armed conflicts if existing.

Would it be possible to form any today and if so then how and what could they be used for?

How interesting would it be to be able to become a Monastic Soldier who serves as the Catholic Church's armed military?

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What happens when Israel builds the Third Temple?

What will happen will they do it.

They've already got all pieces and are just waiting. https://www.templeinstitute.org/gallery_49.htm

I

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>if you're a homosexual I hope you get brain cancer like Ted Kennedy

Now was this called for? Are all Christians like this?

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>Be a Catholic Christian

>Been practicing for years, trying to get over habitual sins and thensome as they come.

>Go to reconciliation whenever I could and needed to, tried getting a spiritual director, and prayed and read Scripture daily

>Almost nothing about my life has changed in terms of behavior

>Stopped going to Church out of shame, spiritual director ghosted me, and stopped trying to pray or read Scripture, though I still read other religious books near daily.

>At my breaking point and about to just accept condemnation so I can enjoy what little time I can enjoy things.

Why can't God just kill me already and get it over with. We both know exactly what's going to happen when I die anyway so there is no point in suspending the inevitable.

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I’m going to read one of these Bibles

I’ve read the Bible (kjv, no commentary) before. I now want to read it again, but I’m a different version. I have narrowed it down to either the Orthodox Study Bible? Or the New Oxford Annotated Bible. Which one do you think I should choose?

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Orthodoxy and the Kingdom of Satan

A short interview with Father Spyridon regarding his book Orthodoxy and the Kingdom of Satan.

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Relationship general

Post your successes/troubles.

The responsibility is yours. Since you're the man you are the driving force behind starting a relationship. It is your job to do the first move as it is to lead all other moves.

Women seek stability. A woman is like a flower that grows towards God. A man is more like a stick. He can direct the married couple towards God. If both of them are flowers, then they stay in mud.

>Be yourself

Be confident about who you are. It will give you a special aura around yourself

>Work on your confidence

Start at nofap thread, eliminate porn and masturbation from your life. Increase your testosterone levels by working out…./fit/

>Get hobbies

If you lack interests, you are less interesting to women. Women want men of action.

>Visit places where high quality women hang out

Church, library, your hobbies…

>Become more educated about your faith

If you want a good Christian girl you should study scriptures. If she takes her faith seriously she will probably be impressed.

Your future wife probably will not just appear out of nothing and ask you out. It is your job when she appears all of sudden to be confident enough to ask her out and handle that situation.

Purity thread:

https://8ch.net/christian/res/405648.html

If any of you guys have some useful meta, please post it so we can include it in the future to the OP.

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Don't let Sedevacantists sway you...

Because, right now, it makes no difference if the Chair of Saint Peter is empty or occupied by a horrible Catholic. Either way, the Church suffers and we laity have to wait until God clears things up. A bad Pope is worse than having no Pope, but practically, has the same effect - no spiritual leadership. The sheep are scattered and must fend for themselves. If previous conclaves were invalid and that we do not, and have not, had a Pope for 50 years, what does this change? Am I going to go to a different church? Quit my job? Say different prayers? Pray tell, what changes? Rome stays the same. Francis is still there. Cafeteria Catholics and terrible Bishops who subvert the faith still exist.

And, Sedevacantism does not add up with Fatima, which calls for the consecration of Russia by a Pope.

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What is your honest opinion about Opus Dei?

I just attended an even at their local "chapter" in my city and I think they might invite me to join them. Should I, lads?

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The Phenomenon of Man

Excellent presentation of divine principles for all those interested in evolution and Christianity. Compare with https://afkimel.wordpress.com/2017/05/01/sergius-bulgakov-on-evolution-and-the-fall-a-sophiological-solution/ and other similar works for a view on history

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Vatican approved changes on "“Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.”

For the official French Catholic bible approved by the Vatican.

In french, we were used to say this famous phrase in the same way that it's done in English : "Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.”

However, in the new 2013 Vatican approved french bible, it was changed to (rough translation) : "Don't let us enter in temptation, but deliver us from evil."

They explained this change by saying that it was more logical, since God can't be the author of evil and that he can't create evil. And so, they fought that it was correct to imply that God could lead people toward temptations, toward evil, when he obviously can't do evil.

So they changed it so that we ask him to not let us enter in temptation, meaning that the source of temptation comes from the outside, from Satan and his evil followers. And so God can't lead us toward temptation, but he can help us to not enter (be tempted) in temptation/sin if we ask for his help.

Anyway, I did this thread to ask you: What do you think of this change in the official french Vatican bible ? Would you see the change occur un your English Catholic bibles too ?

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Reading Order

I don't know where to start. Should I just once read the whole thing cover to cover or is there a particular reading plan with which to read the Individual books? Help! I have been raised liberal without any religious guidance. I must find my way back to god. I have lost any real connection to the outside world and am about to join an orthodox church. Pls help.

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Matthew 29

Teacher,” they said, “Moses told us that if a man dies without having children, his brother must marry the widow and raise up offspring for him. 25 Now there were seven brothers among us. The first one married and died, and since he had no children, he left his wife to his brother. 26 The same thing happened to the second and third brother, right on down to the seventh. 27 Finally, the woman died. 28 Now then, at the resurrection, whose wife will she be of the seven, since all of them were married to her?”

29 Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. 31 But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you, 32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’[a]? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.”

33 When the crowds heard this, they were astonished at his teaching.

What did Jesus mean by this? "I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.” ???

I dont understand if there is the resurrection of the earthy body. What happens? In heaven we become as angels but what about

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What would i have to give up in order to become a true Christian? For example my favorite band is Judas Priest, would i need to stop listening to them to go to heaven?

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Christian Game Reviews: Thoughts on Johanka's ending (Kingdom Come: Deliverance DLC)?

If you've played through this DLC in which Johanka's story focuses on something of Catholic or Christian significance, spoilers alert:

She receives visions from Mary that happen to be true but ends up being trialed by the inquisition in which the outcome can result in her being lashed and complying with agreeing to never preach again, in which a miracle happens and somebody is healed by Mary.

The other is sentencing to death by the inquisitor.

What are your thoughts on the storyline and do you think it was overtly biased against the church in any ways? If so then how etc?

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I have decided to convert from Roman Catholicism to Orthodox Catholicism. How should I approach an Orthodox priest? I sorta have social anxiety and don't want to seem awkward.

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Venerable Fulton J Sheen thread

A thread dedicated to works of Fulton John Sheen, and his highly relevant and actual sermons and snippets, slamming the superficial rubbish of the modern world and it's society in a clear, concise and logical manner.

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How Much of Christianity's Traditions originates in Pagan and Non-Abrahamic Practice?

Hello friends. I am a British-Taiwanese agnostic autistic. However I have a deep fascination with history and the evolution of religions. I recently learned about the concepts syncretism and inculturation, and am wondering if any of you could help me identify concepts, beliefs or traditions in Christianity that have their origins outside of Christianity? Also are there any instances of a particular sect that has been so greatly influenced by non-Abrahamic faiths that some have questioned whether or not it is truly Christian?

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Why are there no Catholic street preachers?

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Not sure what to do

Hello guys I need some help here. My brother is going to China soon and he is staying with a host family. He is an atheist. I feel like paying him some money to put a poster up that tells people to convert. I am not sure whether I should do this or not because I fear for my brother's and his host family's safety. What should I do?

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Christian view on climate change?

Thoughts on climate change/global warming? (pic unrelated)

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Protestants:

>Catholics believe in works salvation, to that don't really love god, they just want to accrue brownie points so the can get into heaven!

Also protestants:

>wow Catholics believe that If someone dies right after they go to confession they go straight to heaven no questions asked, that's so stupid!

Really activates my almonds

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Baptist Thread

Re-making this thread since the last one died recently

The Gospel

>1 Corinthians 15:1-4__

"Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

>Romans 10:9-10__

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

Baptist Confessions, and Statements

London Baptist Confession of 1689 (Calvinist): http://www.ccel.org/ccel/anonymous/bcf.pdf

Baptist Faith and Message (Arminian Inclusive): http://www.sbc.net/bfm2000/bfm2000.asp

Notable Modern Baptist Teachers

Albert Mohler: https://albertmohler.com/

James White: https://www.youtube.com/user/AominOrg

John Piper: https://www.desiringgod.org/

Leighton Flowers: https://www.youtube.com/user/MrLeightonFlowers

Robert Truelove: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQPPHf_DdqfJP5RyosVxhZA

Steven Anderson: https://www.youtube.com/user/sanderson1611

William Lane Craig: https://www.reasonablefaith.org/

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Every time I masturbate and watch porn...

I feel that I'm torturing my soul and my body and that I'm becoming literally soulless…

And I know how both of them are so evil from experience and amateur internet "research".

I know this is evil for more than 10 years, and yet, I CAN'T STOP.

Does Satan got me for good here ? Am I a slave of sexual sin for ever ?

PS: nonpracticing Catholic here.

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Pros and Cons on becoming a Priest

I'm in College, and I don't really know what I want to do with my life. I don't really care about money, and I'd rather do something I like. Well, I always enjoy going to Church, so it seems like Priesthood may be a good path for me. What do you guys think?

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Vaccines

So, with New York joining California, Arizona, West Virginia, Mississippi, and Maine in eliminating the religious exemption for vaccinations, it raises the question:

Are vaccines immoral?

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Something dead wrong is going on with the Russian church

1917 imminent

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/05/21/kremlin-is-spending-43-million-renovate-imperial-mansion-orthodox-patriarch-a65667

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I never made my confirmation

Hi, friends. I wish to ask of something that has been bothering me for a long time. I am Scottish and was born to a family which had Catholicism on my mother’s side (as a result of Irish roots) whereas my father’s side was Protestant/Agnostic. I was baptised as a Catholic and also made my first Holy Communion and I was very interested in the word of God as a child. However, at around 10, I became disillusioned with Catholicism and became agnostic. I refused to partake in my confirmation.

For the past few years, I have grown to respect Catholicism again and have partaken in many Catholic activities. I did not make my confirmation though as a result of my aforementioned rebelliousness (which I regret immensely).

I feel as though I’m in the purgatory of Catholicism. I’m sort of Catholic but not really. I’m like a discarded Catholic who never passed the final quality assurance test.

Basically, is it over for me and have I ruined it all for myself? Would I have to go through an adult conversion programme to realise and become a full and proper member of the Roman Catholic Church?

Thank you.

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Violent Video Games in Christianity

Is it alright for us Christians to play violent video games? I don't want to hurt anyone in real-life, i see violent video games as only a bit of fun. (pic related I've spent a good amount of my free time in this game)

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Silly question but how should a Christian man present himself?

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Books general

What books are you reading at the moment?

What are you up to?

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So... I decided to join the military.

To start, I'm Catholic, and I had always had the utmost respect for the military probably secondary only to clergymen But I had always ruled out military service not necessarily because I couldn't take it or didn't think about it from a patriotic/service stand point, but because I felt that the act of violence would be unjustified. Conversely, I have always looked up to the physical and mental discipline both the monastic life and military service require.

However, recently after reading through the Scriptures, Church documents, Catholic Encyclopedia's stance on things like patriotism/nationalism (that being that it is honorable to take pride in and to serve whatever country you belong to), St Augustine and St Thomas' stance on just war, as well as reading a substantial amount of material related to war both positive (Jerusalem Conquered, 33 Strategies of War, The Big Stick, Starship Troopers, etc.) and negative (All Quiet on the Western Front, The Things They Carried, The Forever War, etc) I came to the conclusion that outside of Priestly/Monastic life, this sort of self sacrifice is the best way I can serve my fellow countrymen outside of evangelism and charity Mind you I'm fully aware of the morally gray motivations for this conflict, but the way I see it ISIS and groups like them seek nothing less than the complete eradication of Christianity and western society in general, so I the way I see it I feel obligated both as an American and as a man of God to fight, if not for myself than for all other Christians in the world (especially after the stream of attacks carried out across the globe).True love is to lay down one's life for thy friends after all. It's something I feel called to do.

At the same time, I'm also in the process of becoming a Benedictine Oblate, and intend to pursue my faith continually and devoutly before, during, and after my term of service (however long that may be, I'm not sure atm). I fully intend on living my faith out to the fullest extent I can. My Mother needs some convincing on me entering a combat position since she's afraid of me getting PTSD and/or injured, but both of my parents say they would support me in joining at the very least, I was torn between the Army and the Marines, but I'm going into the Marines since that's what my Grandfather said he would join if he had been drafted but WWII ended before that happened. Currently working out so I can pass the physical exam next year. I have one more year of college before I get my B.A. in finance, and with that I can enter an officer position from the get-go.

I'm not really posting this to get advice as I'd been contemplating this for years, but more so just to start a conversation. I've been here on and off for several years, and I know war is a touchy and divisive topic here, and with my situation and views outlined I'm curious as to what other Christians think.

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Post a saint from you're country

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'If your god discredits the humanity of a group of people there is a problem with your god'

Is anyone else shocked with how quickly these people managed to infest and subvert Christianity? Shit like this was absolutely unthinkable 20 years ago

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Amazon Synod: the heresy train has no brakes

just an extract from the instrumentum laboris of the Synod

"There is a need for a process of discernment in relation to the rituals, symbols and celebratory styles of indigenous cultures in contact with nature, which must be assumed in the liturgical and sacramental ritual. It is suggested that the liturgical celebrations be festive, with their own songs and dances, in tongues and with original costumes, in communion with nature and with the community.A liturgy that corresponds to their own culture, to be the source and summit of their Christian life (SC, 10), and linked to their struggles, sufferings and joys. The sacraments should be a source of life and medicine accessible to all (EG 47), especially to the poor (EG 200). It is asked to overcome the rigidity of a discipline that excludes and alienates, in favor of a pastoral sensitivity that accompanies and integrates (AL 297) In view of a salutary "decentralization" of the Church (EG, 16), the communities ask Episcopal Conferences to adapt the Eucharistic rituals to their own cultures." (n. 126)

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Constantinople has separated itself from the Orthodox Church. No other Church recognizes the autocephaly of Ukraine. They are schismatics no longer within Orthodoxy. Moscow is now the center of the holy Orthodox Catholic Church. Submit.

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> in 2033, it would make exactly 2000 years that the Lord was crucified

What…What is going to happen in 2033 gu…guys ?

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In your opinion

Is contraception the root of the current state of moral depravity? Should a righteous government ban it?

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Early proof of the Trinity

What is the earliest proof that orthodox Christianity believed in the Trinity? I'm not a Unitarian, but I'd like to be able to defend the doctrine against Bart Ehrman, Muslims, etc.

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Memorizing Prayers

i suck at constructing sentences and most of the time i dont know what to say, i feel like my prayer is shallow and short, then i started looking up on what if we write it first or memorize the prayer on the OSB, i also looked up online and found other written prayers but people are saying it's not good and not sincere (that it's not actually from you) etc.

what do you guys think about this? i have been raised a prot all my life so memorizing prayer that is not on the bible is not a thing and i feel weird about it

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Simple philosophical question: What’s the point of Christian life in this world if it’s really all about the next world?

Judaism as you know is all about this world. Buddhism too is about the here and now.

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Has the subject about gays been misinterpreted in the bible?

Can we try and explore the multiple books and translations and interpretations and ideas of bibles. the only reason why I wanted to is because of these tweets, is any of this true at all or not? I don't study the bible at all and don't know whats okay or not, I just want non bias information and a discussion

here is the link they also provide source for their information, it's also not to direct hate so don't directly speak to them,

https://twitter.com/n_robe/status/1138531152740921344

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Am I a Christian?

I come from a muslim family. My mother is german, and my father is turkish. They are both muslim, because my mother converted. They both believe in Islam, and don't like christianity (They think it's wrong, and that christians are having sinfull lifes).

I believe that christianity is true. But my family wouldn't accept me beeing a christian (And my mother wants me to be just like she wants me to be. She gets angry when I don't even do something wrong, and blames me for a lot of stuff. But 80% of the time she is nice and loves me)

Because of that, I have to wait till I can move out. Only then, I can convert. But I found out, that I was baptized in the Catholic Church when I was a baby. My Grandfather wanted that I am baptized.

So I wanted to ask, if I count as a Christian already, when I was baptized as baby?

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"Therefore, of the one and only Church there is one body and one head, not two or three heads like a monster."

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(Question) Happiness and Christianity

German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche is quoted by saying:

>Christianity is called the religion of pity.—Pity stands in opposition to all the tonic passions that augment the energy of the feeling of aliveness: it is a depressant. A man loses power when he pities. Through pity that drain upon strength which suffering works is multiplied a thousandfold. Suffering is made contagious by pity; under certain circumstances it may lead to a total sacrifice of life and living energy—a loss out of all proportion to the magnitude of the cause (—the case of the death of the Nazarene).

However, Paul says in 2 Corinthians 12:10-11

> 10. Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

> 11. I am become a fool in glorying; ye have compelled me: for I ought to have been commended of you: for in nothing am I behind the very chiefest apostles, though I be nothing.

But in all honesty, I have a hard time trying to be happy. Just last week, I got straight As on all my grades; not only that but I possibly have a 4.0 GPA. The problem is I don't know who deserves the credit: me who has worked so hard on them, or God, to whom I prayed for help. It's like the "thanking God but not the doctor" scenario. Tell me brethren, is it wrong to take pride in your accomplishments or be confident in yourself?

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Any tips on finding a non-cucked Church?

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Explain this, Eastern Orthodox.

Eastern Orthodoxy ALLOWS female deacons(!) This is ridiculous. All the Holy Orders should be for men only - the deaconesses in the early Church were not sacramental deacons. How can you allow this? You know the Ameridox will use this in the argument for female ordination.

In fact, American Orthodoxy is like how mainline Protestantism was ~20 years ago, before they went totally crazy. They oppose the death penalty and some have made the argument that women should be priests, I've even seen someone claim that adelphopoiesis means that homosexual marriage should be allowed.

And, sadly, like pretty much every other denomination (and, religion in general) you have bent on the issue of divorce and contraception.

Just because Boomers haven't subverted your mass, don't think you are safe…

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Should I convert to Catholicism?

My friend invited me to mass Yesterday and I was blown away. I felt some spiritual and exalting about it that I can simply not feel in any Protestant Church that I’ve attended growing up. And I’ve always been fascinated by the traditions, history and culture behind Catholicism.

What do you say /Christian/? Should I do it?

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Confession

I need to get something off my chest. Someone recommended I do Catholic confession. There's a Catholic church up the street from my apartment, am I allowed to just walk in and ask for a confession? Do I have to convert to Catholicism first? Sorry I am new to all this, I haven't set foot in a church in like 20 years. Jesus came into my life recently… I think. I don't have a denomination but I pray a little bit and I hung a cross in my rear view mirror.

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Debunking Evolution

Greetings, brothers, and sisters in Christ. I was wondering if we could have a general thread for debunking evolution. I'm still not completely sold on it just yet.

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Was Cardinal Siri elected as Pope instead of John XXIII?

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It literally says in the bible, in Genesis 7:2-

"Take with you seven pairs of all clean animals, the male and his mate, and a pair of the animals that are not clean, the male and his mate, and seven pairs of the birds of the heavens also, male and female, to keep their offspring alive on the face of all the earth"

So that's thirty animals in total. Obviously not a pair of each living species on Earth. So obviously it must be of the animals that are native to Noah's land.

So was the flood local? God does speak about the rainbow being a covenant with ALL life that he will never flood THE world again. If this was a global flood, there had to be countless others that God spoke to, telling them to also build a ark for the creatures native of their lands. Or was ALL and THE just being used specifically to the region and creatures where the flood happened locally? But then again, 2nd Peter 3:6 says the WORLD was deluged by water.

winnie the pooh dudes, why is this so complicated?

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Unsaved default to Hell?

I went to church yesterday with family. I don't know much about christianity but I had always heard jesus told people to love each other and be nice, didn't know much past that. They were not aggressive about it but when they found out i didn't go to any church or know much about it they started telling me i needed to be "saved" so I can go to heaven. I asked them if I would go to hell if I died now and they were basically saying "probably". I asked them why I needed to be saved and if jesus was so nice why he would send me to burn in hell. they said: "He is not sending you to hell it's just where you go and he can's save you if you don't believe in him." I asked them if jesus was all powerful after that and they said "yes"

How common is this belief and why don't you hear prominent christians talk about hell ever if they think we need to be saved or suffer forever as our default position?

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An Inquisition could resolve the problem of Homosexual Pedophile priests

Should it be led by educated laypeople this time or can a proposal made for another office to be established?

In the past both an informal position of the inquisition led by laypeople as well as by an office when one was established existed.

It served to guard the Catholic Church''s interior from subversion and heretical activity.

Investigators were sometimes dispatched to parishes in order to catch heretics/subversives including if it was the priest of a parish who was involved in it. They collected evidence and witnesses then trialed those involved.

Why not create another inquisition that does the same? Except this time it serves to operate secretively in finding and catching homosexual infiltrators in the priesthood by collecting the evidence needed, similar to how private investigators might do so or a ministry of internal affairs within a country.

The reason why it was not as much of a problem once upon a time is because the inquisition's exact job was to stop things like this. They spied on or investigated priests suspected to be engaged in heretical activity.

The Church has been vulnerable to infiltration and subversion by forces such as these homosexual pedophile priests ever since the inquisition was dismantled.

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Alabama

Alabama abortion ban passes overwhelmingly with no changes

By Mike Cason

Alabama lawmakers aiming to challenge abortion rights nationally are one step from their goal of putting an almost total ban on the procedure into state law.

The Senate tonight voted 25-6 to pass a bill to make it a felony for a doctor to perform an abortion. The bill is a priority for the Legislature’s Republican majority. Tonight’s vote sends it to Republican Gov. Kay Ivey, who could sign it into law.

Lori Jhons, Ivey’s deputy press secretary, said in an email tonight that Ivey would not comment on the bill until she’s had a chance to thoroughly review it.

The bill passed exactly as it was introduced by Rep. Terri Collins, R-Decatur, about six weeks ago. It includes only one exception – to allow abortions in cases of a serious health risk to the woman. The goal is to trigger a legal challenge to Roe v. Wade.

“I would say that we’re all very pleased to have this done,” Collins said at a press conference after the vote. “We’re excited about the possibilities that it could mean. It’s been difficult at times, and then at times it’s been really good. I felt really good about it all the way through.”

Under the bill, a woman receiving an abortion would not be criminally liable. The doctor would be charged with a Class A felony, punishable by 10 to 99 years in prison.

The bill passed the Senate on party lines after four and a half hours of debate, with all the Republicans who were present voting for it. No Democrats voted for the bill.

With Republicans holding 27 of 35 Senate seats, passage of the bill was not in doubt. A key question was whether the Senate would add an amendment to allow abortions for pregnancies caused by rape or incest.

Sen. Clyde Chambliss, R-Prattville, who handled the bill in the Senate, urged his colleagues to reject the amendment, saying that all unborn children deserve protection.

Four Republicans sided with the Democrats in voting for the rape and incest exception, but it failed 21-11.

Senate Minority Leader Bobby Singleton, D-Greensboro, who proposed the rape and incest amendment, said it was disgraceful to leave out the exception.

“You just raped every woman who’s been raped by a man,” Singleton said, his voice rising with emotion. “You just raped her all over again.”

Singleton said three rape victims were in the Senate gallery as his guests and talked about the hardships they went through.

“This is just a shame, this is a disgrace, this is a travesty," he said.

Collins said her goal was to pass the bill in a form she thought would serve as the strongest challenge to Roe v. Wade. She said states could later decide what exceptions to allow if the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. She said she would support a rape and incest exception if that happens.

“I’ve answered many emails from people who have poured out their hearts with real stories that were true,” Collins said. “My goal with this bill is not to hurt them in any way. My goal with this bill, and I think all of our goal, is to have Roe vs. Wade turned over, and that decision be sent back to the states so that we can come up with our laws that address and include amendments and things that address those issues."

There are only four women in the 35-member Senate, and two of them were among the most outspoken opponents of the bill on Tuesday.

Sen. Linda Coleman-Madison, D-Birmingham, proposed an amendment that would have required the state to provide prenatal care and medical care for the mother and the child in cases when a woman is denied an abortion because of the law. Democrats said a lack of support from Republicans on issues that can help low-income families, like Medicaid expansion, undermines their argument about protecting unborn children.

“The sin to me is bringing a child into this world and not taking care of them," Coleman-Madison said. "The sin for me is that this state does not provide adequate care. We don’t provide education. And then when the child is born and we know that mother is indigent and she cannot take care of that child, we don’t provide any support systems for that mother.”

Senators rejected her amendment 23-6.

About an hour after Republican senators voted down the rape and incest amendment, they voted to cut off the debate and force a vote on the bill.

Chambliss, asked about the legal costs the state would incur if the bill becomes law and is challenged in court, as the sponsors intend, said it would be money well spent.

“Life is a gift of our creator and we must do everything that we can to protect life," Chambliss said. "And if it is a couple of million dollars, that is a small, small price for those lives.”

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New Christian here. What is the New Covenant and how is it better than the Old Covenant?

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People are waking up

A lot of people are coming to the inescapable conclusion that the state of the modern west is because people rejecting God in favor of their own desires. More and more people are coming back to traditional Christianity as a way of retaining good cultural values in a zeitgeist that attacks anything that disallows them from exercising their own disordered passions.

Is there a hope? A chance? Can Christianity overcome the depraved secular west?

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Do Catholics still believe there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church? If they do, then wouldn't Catholics and other Christians have irreconcilable differences, just like the JW and Mormons with the rest of the Christian community?

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My thread got alactricy'd so I figure I'll post it again.

Anons I've prayed to God to show me his purpose for me, yet I haven't seen or heard anything from God, whether it be a hint, dream, or vision.

What does this mean?

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Lost and confused

How do Christians choose one version of Christianity over another? How can all of you be so certain that your Bible is 100% accurate and that other Bible is not? How can you be sure that you are actually putting your faith in God himself, and not simply the word of other men? I am willing and able to accept the general worldview of Christianity as true, what I can't understand is how can one know which books are the true word of God and Christ and which are tainted? If they are all written by men, how can you put your faith in them and call it faith in God? Clearly some details were made up by men, and most are wse words written with good intentions, but how do you… Find certainty? Faith? Truth? I think Christianity is more or less the truth, but how do you know which sources on the subject are trustworthy and which aren't? How can you all be so sure of the specific versions you chose to beleive? I'm finding myself lost in life lately and have had these questions most of my life, but never found good answers. I come from a Christian background have been pretty agnostic my entire life. I do absolutely beleive there is a God at least, but I don't have any firm beliefs on who or what God is exactly. I'm genuinely lost and looking for help here.

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Can I pray?

Sorry if the question is dumb.

I'm from a muslim family (I'm a turk). So my family wants that I also be a muslim. They don't know that I don't believe in Islam. And they of course don't know that I believe in Christianity. They won't hurt me if I would convert (they aren't ultra strict arabs). But they would be sad and disappointed. They think that Islam is the right religion and think that I would burn in hell if I wouldn't be a muslim. That's why I'm going to convert when I move out.

That means I'm not baptized or anything else. So I wanted to ask, if I could pray to god when I'm not baptized.

Pic unrelated

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How will we beat the modernists?

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can i be anti israel but christian??

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Is Bodybuilding good? [Catholic]

I want to build up my physique but apparently, as Catholics, we are called to eat only one meal a day (not that we must but rather, we should strive for it). There's no way you'll be able to meet all of your body's caloric and nutritional needs with one single meal which basically means you can't do anything that would raise those requirements - meaning no bodybuilding.

https://testeverythingblog.com/what-constitutes-fasting-in-the-catholic-church-17972d84dae

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Reminder that falseflagging as denominations you dislike is bearing false witness against your neighbor, which is a sin.

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Prelest

I'm considering converting to Christianity. I wanted to start by building virtue and reading St Ignatius' 'Spiritual Exercises' and implement his advice in the next month or so. But after learning about prelest I'm worried that demons might turn me prideful after I begin my journey. What's the correct attitude I should have towards prayer? How can I avoid demons and false visions?

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Abortion

Christians, what do you think about abortion when a woman get raped? For me, you can't EVER punish the baby and kill him, but what are your thoughts on this?

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Atheist Memes?

I mean this according to the Dawkins definition of a meme. Namely, "an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture—often with the aim of conveying a particular phenomenon, theme, or meaning represented by the meme."

Things that they sincerely believe about Christianity and use over and over again despite how erroneous it is or how many times it has been refuted, and yet persists. I'm trying to come up with a list of them.

Some examples:

>If Christians hate homosexuality, they should also abstain from pork, not wear mixed fabrics, [enter Levetical laws here]; they just cherry-pick

>Christianity is an opiate of the masses, invented to mind-control people into subservience

>The Christian religion couldn't sustain itself if it didn't indoctrinate children and get them brain-washed before the age of reason

>If there were a god, he'd have to be evil to allow innocent children to suffer

>If Christians believed in science instead of faith, they'd be atheist, because science and faith are diametrically opposed

>If Christians were empirical, they'd be atheist, because there is no empirical or historical evidence in favor of Christianity

>If Christians were rational, they'd be atheist, because there are no rational arguments in favor of Christianity

>Christianity would have never existed if bronze-aged people hadn't been so gullible and unintelligent

>If Christianity were so "good," there wouldn't be so many people who have done bad things in the name of Christianity

>If god was real, why would he wait so long to appear and leave humanity without a god for the first several thousands of years?

>If god was real, why didn't he appear during the modern age when humanity had the ability to record and test his miracles?

Give me more. I'm sure I'm missing common ones. Give me those arguments or statements that are so absurd that you immediately just shut down the conversation because you know you're wasting your time and nothing you could say will matter. Rather, the things atheists say that indicate to you that you have a real euphoric fedora on your hands.

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Pray that I find a girlfriend, /christian/.

I went to Mass today for Easter at a different parish than the one I regularly go to since I went with my grandmother. My parish is full of mostly old people, but surprisingly at her parish it's a lot more mixed. I saw a lot of pretty church girls there (don't worry I didn't lust after them or anything). After the Mass everyone gathered into a coffee hall to share some breakfast. I wish I could've talked to at least one of those girls but I didn't get the chance. It just makes me really sad because I wish I had a girlfriend. A nice, beautiful, loving, Godly girlfriend that I could marry one day. I've never held a girl in my arms before, nor have I ever kissed one. Maybe I'm just too ugly or stupid… :( I know I'm still young but I've been out of school a little while at this point and I feel like I missed so many milestones someone my age should've already experienced. Please pray that God will help me find the right woman. O Lord, please help me. Please help me find a girl to love. :(

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Blackpilled

>going to event on a Sunday

>decide to do it after church because it fits perfectly in the schedule

>three of my childhood friends help me with a small chore a few months ago so I decide to buy them a ticket

>tell them to come meet at church, where we have a fairly late service (starts an hour before noon)

>the losers are asleep until around 1, despite several phone calls

>they make it to the event after calling and bothering me while I'm trying to take advantage of getting there early with three non loser friends

>they look like pathetic bums who haven't showered in days and can't bother to shave their terribly grown facial hair or brush their hair or wear fresh clothing

>hurr durr sorry anon, we wuz asleep lol, but thanks for the tickets

Same day:

>my wife's kid sister is home from college

>who we pick up from the airport every time she comes, whose college we cover 1/4 for out of the kindness of our hearts to help her parents

>we want to take her to church

>we tell her we'll come pick her up and then we'll treat her to breakfast at the best place we know

>she moans and cries and makes excuses

>we end up getting to her parents' house only to go right back because she begged her mom not to go, her mom saying that we should take her once she wants to go on her own accord

>she's taking gender studies that she's swallowing up fully, her friends are LGBTBBQ, her program is full of junkie degenerates and rich kid hedonists, and the entire culture of his God-forsaken country is anti-Christ

>I've given her short, good quality books to read when she's over here to think about things on her own, mostly ethics and bare basic apologetics, with the intention that she read them while at college

>the books are all in her room's shelf, never been opened or even left her parents' house

>somehow she's supposed to decide on her own to come to church despite everything in her entire life telling her not to except for us, who are not ignored courtesy of her parents capitulating to her bratty bitching

Today was incredibly depressing. People I am naturally inclined to care about wouldn't lift a finger to think beyond what's being fed to them daily or break their cycle of hedonistic pleasure, not even as a show of respect for me. All I asked of them was to come to church, not run a marathon. It's really done a number on my desire to evangelize. I feel like I'm throwing pearls at swine, like I'm going to great lengths to try to bring the gospel to these people only to have it thrown at the floor and trampled. How the heck do I stop the blackpill on this?

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…Is Pope Francis based after all?

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Anti-abortion film a surprise boxoffice success…

That put the film in an unexpected fourth place for the week behind the much bigger budget pictures "Dumbo," "Us," and "Captain Marvel."

http://archive.today/2019.04.06-221806/https://news.yahoo.com/us-anti-abortion-film-surprise-box-office-success-010603753.html

New York (AFP) - A movie produced by a Christian studio about a former employee of an organization that provides abortions who became a "pro-life" activist is proving to be a surprising box office hit. "Unplanned," which was released in theaters on March 29, has pulled in more than 8.6 million dollars in North America, according to Box Office Mojo. "Unplanned" comes amid a resurgent campaign in the United States by opponents of abortion, which was legalized in the United States in a landmark 1973 Supreme Court decision. Among those promoting the movie has been the deeply religious vice president, Mike Pence. "So good to see movie theaters across the country showing @UnplannedMovie," Pence tweeted. "More & more Americans are embracing the sanctity of life because of powerful stories like this one."Building on its early buzz, "Unplanned" is to be shown in more than 1,500 theaters across the United States this weekend, up from 1,059 the weekend of its release.

Produced by the self-described Christian studio Pure Flix, "Unplanned" was launched with little advertising because most cable TV channels reportedly refused to air ads for the film. Anti-abortion groups have denounced this as part of an orchestrated campaign which they claim also included the film being attributed an "R" rating by the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA). An "R" rating requires anyone under the age of 17 going to a movie to be accompanied by a parent or adult guardian. Fueling the criticism was the brief suspension by Twitter of the movie's account, which the company attributed to a technical problem. Writing in The Washington Post, columnist Marc Thiessen called "Unplanned" the "movie abortion supporters don't want you to see." "Unplanned" is based on a book by the same name by Abby Johnson, a former director of an abortion clinic in Bryan, Texas, run by Planned Parenthood, the largest family planning organization in the United States. Johnson recounts in the book how she had a "spiritual awakening" after personally assisting with an abortion.

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The Nature of Women

<Ecclesiastes 7

>25 I turned my heart to know and to search out and to seek wisdom and the scheme of things, and to know the wickedness of folly and the foolishness that is madness.

>26 And I find something more bitter than death: the woman whose heart is snares and nets, and whose hands are fetters. He who pleases God escapes her, but the sinner is taken by her.

They are the most gracious beings, capable of love, caring, healing, through which life is birth. Yet they can also the cruelest, enchant men into their charms and then leave them in shambles.

This thread is devoted to discussing the true nature of women, to most of which, are completely unaware themselves.

Not specifically relationship advice, for those have specific threads, but to come with analysis and understanding, and interpretation of the bible regarding them.

Something I would valuable not only for young men, but to settled men who wish to understand their partners better, and even women themselves to understand their inner feminine essence.

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Pope compares abortion to 'hiring hitman'…

Pope Francis made the claims at a Vatican-sponsored anti-abortion conference

http://archive.today/2019.05.26-002543/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7069883/Pope-compares-abortion-hiring-hitman.html

Pope Francis has compared abortion to 'hiring a hitman' during a Vatican-sponsored anti-abortion conference. Abortion can never be condoned, even when the fetus is gravely sick or malformed, Pope Francis said during a pro-life conference held in the Vatican this morning. He urged doctors and priests to support families to carry all pregnancies to term - even where death is the result. The Pope claimed his opposition to abortion was not for religious issues, but for human ones. He said: 'Is it licit to throw away a life to resolve a problem? 'Is it licit to hire a hitman to resolve a problem?' Francis disagreed with abortions done on grounds of prenatal testing which reveals problems with the fetus. He said a human being is 'never incompatible with life'.

Even if a baby is so unwell it will die in the womb or shortly after birth Francis says they should be looked after for as long as possible. 'Taking care of these children helps parents to grieve and not only think of it as a loss, but as a step on a path taken together,' Francis said. The conference was organised by the Dicastery for Laity, Family and Life, and the 'Heart in a Drop' Foundation, which works to welcome 'children born in conditions of extreme fragility'. He told the crowd every child is 'a gift that changes the history of a family…and this child needs to be welcomed, loved and cared for'. He said often the 'mere suspicion of disease can change the experience of pregnancy,' and even risk 'throwing women and couples' into a 'deep despair'. But 'the evolution of every disease is always subjective and often not even doctors know how it will manifest itself in the individual', according to the Pope. Francis has spoken out strongly against abortion, although he has also expressed sympathy for women who have had them and made it easier for them to be forgiven.

In 2015 he wrote a letter to the Vatican saying priests could use their discretion to formally forgive women who had an abortion and wanted absolution. At the time Joe O'Brien, writing for Catholics for Choice, said: 'The very narrowness of Francis' idea of a particular "year of mercy" suggests that he still has a blind spot when it comes to women and what they need or want. 'In all the talk about abortion and women, Francis also fails to mention men—a sin of omission I have no doubt—considering that men are just as involved in the baby-making process, as well as often part of family planning decisions.' But in June 2018 the Pope likened abortion to Nazi eugenics - saying parents should accept the children God gives them. At a meeting of an Italian family association he told those gathered that as a child he was horrified to hear stories from his teacher about children 'thrown from the mountain' if they were born with malformations. 'Today we do the same thing,' he said. 'Last century, the whole world was scandalised by what the Nazis did to purify the race. Today, we do the same thing but with white gloves.'

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Who here reading Infiltration? What did you think of it?

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The Future of the Novus Ordo

It seems like young Catholics are discovering the beauty of the TLM/other Rites of the Church. Will the Novus Ordo, in 50 years, resemble the TLM, or simply be abolished? Only Boomers seem to cling to it.

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Pathway to the Bread Pill

Note to mods: If something here is against the rules, please just remove it, I am not trying to do anything to get banned! Thank you!

Hi everyone! So I've been noticing lately that from all the disaffected communities that have sprung up because of the clown world we live in, many of them are quite open to the ultimate truth, the Bread Pill, which is not only the ultimate explanation of why we are in this mess, but also how get out of it. What follows is what I think are the different things that someone has to be awake to:

Yeah, I think we have to convert people basically. There are various stages or things you have to convert people on though, but I think the harvest is white.

Basically the topics I think you have to convert/red pill people on are:

Degeneracy: Start with Trans, then LGB, then Fornication, Pornography, Masturbation, then you can link in Birth Control as the key which caused all of this

Culture/Demographics: Changing demographics leads to instability. The point of a nation is for stability (ideally stability so we can focus on following God instead of nonsense around). Not all cultures are equal. Show people onto the objective superiority of western culture, then show it is a fruit of the Church. For example Michelangelo's sculptures, the Sistene Chapel, Mozart, Vivaldi, would never have been created if Mohammedans took over. Drawings, Sculptures, Music is all forbidden etc. Strong bonds with your family is important, having tradition and history, and so on.

Why did things change so fast, who is doing this?: Start with "the media", "oligarchs", "people in power", move on up to yeah, they all seem to share something in common.

Why do our enemies do this to us?: No it's not Genetic, it's theological. They hate us because the only thing they have in common is the rejection of Christ. They are rebelling against Logos which is Christ, they are obsessed with revolution and proving Christianity wrong by trying to find their own Messiah, because deep down they know they missed the boat but are too prideful to admit it. They want to destroy Christianity and Christians and Western Civilization (the fruit of the Church) and their lands and so on to assert their superiority and our inferiority. If their father is the Devil, then their primary sin is that their father's, Pride. Show them E Michael Jones

The Bread Pill - The explanation for the clown world is also the solution to it. Come back to Christ. Become Trad (Cat - still the only Church which doctrine still says no to birth control, no to divorce, no to sodomy). It's the only place you can actually find a virgin. They don't exist in bars or on apps thats for sure. At a Trad cat parish you can marry a girl who doesn't believe in birth control, doesn't believe in divorce. Have many kids, homeschool them. Be devoted to Christ and the Church, it will keep you away from degeneracy. Quit with all the degeneracy otherwise you will not be ready to get married.

Preach the word to everyone: Once you've understood all of this, your mission is also to wake up as many people as you can. Use your talents. Whether it's forum posts/messages/tweets/blogposts/books, or art (images, memes, music, videos) to spread this message. They destroyed our society through media, we have to use the same media to heal us and conquer it. The difference is that we have the truth, and the darkness will not overcome the light.

People maybe awake to a few of those points but not all of them or be sort of half awake or in stages on some of those points, which is why I tried to show the progression of how awake they get on a certain point. I think we have to find people who are somewhere along the journey and try and guide them along where they are.

What do you guys think? Any thoughts on the matter? Thanks for reading!

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Are there any theological contradictions that make your faith tremble from time to time, /christian/s?

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How do you feel about their canonizations?

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GOTFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>only now people realize the dumpster fire that got really is

TOLKIEN WINS ONCE AGAIN,

CHRISTIAN FANTASY REMAINS UNDEFEATED

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Hello. I am reading the Greek OT (LXX) and I started out with the Psalms. I noticed that a lot of places are different from the Hebrew English translations. It's not major differences but they're noticeable. For example, Psalm 2:6 reads:

>᾿Εγὼ δὲ κατεστάθην βασιλεὺς ὑπ᾽ αὐτοῦ

ἐπὶ Σιων ὄρος τὸ ἅγιον αὐτοῦ

"And I was appointed king by him, on Zion his holy mountain."

Whereas in all the other English translations I have that are apparently from the Hebrew it reads:

>“As for me, I have set my King on Zion, my holy hill.” (ESV)

Now I have read that the Hebrew text is different in many places from the Greek text. Why exactly is this? I know the New Testament quotes from the LXX a lot. But this has me concerned because it seems like maybe the LXX mistranslated a lot or was a paraphrased translation?

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Debunking Athesim

Any good arguments against atheism?

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What do you think about the shortage of eligible men in the church?

>I can talk to any young woman in my social circle and they will, one and all, say the same thing: there just aren’t any men. What we mean by this is there is a frightening scarcity of men aged 25-35 who are church-going, single and worldly-wise.

>Most men I meet have two out of three of these qualities, with the latter often lacking. If they’re single church-goers, they’re usually awkward and in want of basic social awareness (a big turn-off for most women). If they’re more worldly, they’re generally not single or not religious. Even if they’re not religious, most young Australian men hold views and values that are left of centre and utterly opposed to our own.

https://www.catholicweekly.com.au/for-want-of-a-lot-of-good-men/

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Been a Missouri-Synod Lutheran my whole life and i've always disliked the whole dog and pony show of a Sunday service and find it boring. Whether you are Prot are Catholic it always seems like for mos folks it's just a check in the box routine for the soul. This man speaks with vigour and authority. This man doesn't fear to displease the service and tone down gods word for the collection plate. This man preaches AGAINST SIN with the intention to make you feel unconfortable and recognize what is wicked. What is this called and where can I find more of it!?

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John 6 UNDENIABLY proves Apostolic teaching on the Eucharist

Many of His followers deserted over the assertion that you have to eat His flesh and drink His blood to have life in you. (And when Jesus says "do this n remembrance of me", that's how we know the Apostles are able to transubstantiatiate bread, and this must be passed down to their successors, because people after them would not have life if they don't receive the Eucharist.) But, what does Jesus do? He turns to His apostles and asks them if they shall also leave. What's more? The doctrine of transubstantiation is the doctrine which Judas could not accept! The deceit of Judas was made clear: he was a devil. Saint Paul says that if you receive communion unworthily, you are guilty of the Body and Blood of Christ. If you call yourself a Christian, and don't believe in transubstantiation, you are not one of His followers who left Him, but a Judas.

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Commiefornia wants to abolish the Sacrament of Confession

California confession bill passes state senate

In spite of protests that new legislation would be infringing upon religious liberty, the California state senate has overwhelmingly approved of a bill that would require Catholic priests to break the sacramental seal of confession.

The Senate on Friday voted 30-2 on Senate Bill 360, which would oblige priests to disclose information concerning the sexual abuse of minors that they hear in confession. The legislation now will be taken up by the state assembly.

“I am deeply disappointed with today’s Senate vote on SB 360, said Los Angeles Archbishop José H. Gomez. “I continue to believe we can strengthen mandated reporting laws to protect children’s safety while at the same time preserving the sanctity of penitential communications.”

Donohue predicted that the legislation would be unenforceable. “No priest is going to respect it and violate the sanctity of the confessional,” he said. “Moreover, Catholics are not required to respect unjust laws—and this is a clear example of such a law.”

Confession is sacrosanct, according to Catholic teaching, because it is communication between the penitent and God. According to Church law, a priest is automatically excommunicated if he reveals the contents of a confession.

“In the context of Confession, the priest, we hold, is operating in the very person of Christ, and therefore, the penitent is speaking to and hearing from the Lord himself,” Archbishop Gomez said earlier. “Thus, absolutely nothing ought to stand in the way of a sinner who seeks this font of grace.”

https://aleteia.org/2019/05/25/california-confession-bill-passes-state-senate/

>inb4 prots defend this

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Art

can we have a wholesome art thread? And yes, Icons and Frescos count

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Based Black Man arrested for preaching

https://youtu.be/sS6AlYBnnlM

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Lutheranism and Orthodox Christianity

Hi /christian/

I was wondering if you could kind of compare and contrast Lutheranism (particularly LCMS) and Orthodox Christianty? I was raised Lutheran, and there's this youtuber I really like who is Orthodox. It seems like there is a fair bit in common, but also quite a few differences. I'm interested, because Orthodox Christianity seems to be more hip to modern degeneracy and nihilism, and more willing to call it out.

>pic not related

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Christian Company Town

Has anyone else had this idea? A company town is a town that has all its buildings and land controlled by a company. The residents of the town then operate their own businesses as subsidiaries of the company. The company can "tax" the subsidiaries by drawing off a portion of their profits. This enables a community to be created with complete control over who can live there and what kind of businesses can be run.

In short you could create a Christian company whose charter states that the company will create and maintain a community with the aim of maintaining traditional Christian values. Members of the community who are trusted and respected are given shares in the company and the board of directors is elected from among them to act as the towns council.

Is this feasible? It would allow Christians to create communities that are completely free from government influence since the land and property is privately owned there is no obligation to allow non-Christians or people who live immoral lifestyles into the community. In all other ways it can function as a traditional Christian village, with the long term goal of siphoning off as much money and wealth from the host nation as possible to maintain a high quality of life for the inhabitants.

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Do you lads also feel disgust towards atheists desperately pretending to have converted out of fear of death? Is pretending to be christian acceptable?

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Thoughts on the Qur'an?

What does /christian/ think about the Qur'an?

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>middle ages

>roman catholic and orthodox excommunicated each other

>current day

>all buddies

What happens? I thought the understanding of the "real" church could never change, that dogmas were immutable?

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Fatherhood general

Browsing one imageboard on 8ch really got me thinking again about the importance of father figure and fatherhood in general so I thought about creating a thread here. I know we already have nature of women, self improvement, relationship general, book thread. All of them probably related and useful towards this. But I think it is worth trying to create a thread about what a solid father figure should look like, perhaps tips on how to go that path since I think most of us are aspiring to become fathers one day.

The responsibility is immense: leading the family spiritually, raising the children up, guiding your wife with love.

When I will come up with some effortpost I will share it. If you have some ideas please contribute. Perhaps this will not be a failure of a thread.

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How literally should we take the mark of the beast?

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Catechism Question

So, I've been relapsing back into Catholicism, I have confessed my sins, have been going to Church and although I still have not prayed the rosary daily I have nonetheless been praying every single day and have ask Our Lady to fill my days with more and more prayer for the souls that need it.

Anyway, since it has been well over a decade that I had devoted myself spiritually, I had to do some studying so I've read St. Pius X's catechism and all was fine and swell. I've also been immersing myself in the stories and lives of the saints to gain wisdom and inspiration and, of course, I have been reading the Bible (although not as diligently as I might wish). Probably my biggest mistake so far is being too into TradTube while ignoring the fundamentals, and because of this I went to good old vatican.va to read more. I've started reading their catechism, which I imagine is the most recent and correct (?) one, and somewhere along the way I read this:

>841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330

I'm apologise for the silly question, but how can this be a dogma of the Church? Wouldn't this mean that Islam is the "true" religion since it supposed mission is to correct the "errors" of the Old and New Testaments? How can this possibly be? And also, regarding catechisms in general, was the one I read originally somehow invalidated by this one?

Thank kindly you for your answers and for putting up with my ignorance of the subject, brothers.

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Crisis of Faith

Wanted to be Catholic for awhile, I've gone through periods of researching it autistically on and off as well as other denominations and religions, basically searching for truth.

Ultimately I keep finding problems, contradictions and nothing making sense. When it comes to Catholicism I can't reconcile tradition with modern teaching and end up spiraling down the increasingly absurd versions of sedevacantism. I try to look into other faiths and beliefs and they're even less sensical and lead to the same problems. I would have given up by now if it weren't for a very vague intuition that Christianity is literally true (despite constantly being pointed towards the contrary by the endless dead-ends). On the one hand I have this impulse to become Christian and on the other I have impulses entirely contrary to the Christian ethos and worldview and its like there's a constant tug of war.

What do I do? I'm gaslit beyond belief.

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Evangelicalism and environmentalism

>look up Christians reviews of Godzilla king of monsters

>Film portrayed echo terrorist as bad

>Yet evangelicals always seem to think to protect the environment from pollution as evil in the review regardless of any situation

Why do American evangelical hell-benth on viewing protecting the environment as evil? They do know they rooting for humanity to destroy the earth a gift from God? They are acting no different from Hindus from India.

https://www.movieguide.org/reviews/godzilla-king-of-the-monsters.html

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The Young Pope discussion

Is it worth a watch?

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Why isn't the Catholic Church excommunicating these people? The bishop that provoked this response from the demon possessed horde is more likely to get in trouble with the Church than these outright heretics.

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Creating modern counterparts to orders like the Templars to protect the faith or its property/flock

By modern standards orders like the Templars or the Teutonic Knights would essentially be considered Armed Security Guards (With the difference being that they were Monastic Guards/Knights when it came to the Templars) who's job is to protect missionaries, pilgrims as well as churches/relics from persecutors (And especially from terrorists, jihadists or suicide bombers).

So why don't we create Catholic based both Armed and Unarmed Security groups dedicated to doing this once again? Overseas where terrorists kill Christians or attack them as well as domestic accordingly to what is allowed.

Whether its paid or unpaid, if unpaid we can muster faithful or parish members who have experience (Or want to get some) that are willing to volunteer as well depending.

Do you know anybody capable or willing to found such a group or any of them? My parish apparently got forced out of holding rallies in the park and stopped because some anti-Catholics threw objects at them. Imagine if we had some guards like in the olden days.

All you have to do is have a master license and register a security group or company that provides 'services' to Catholics/Christians in your country/around the world depending.

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orthodoxy n shiet

I don't know what to start with.

The protestant church in Germany is cucked af and I've been raised atheist mostly while having been baptised and given membership in protestant church.I want to find the way to god and have been rading the bible and new testament just recently. There is an orthodix community nearby should I try or look for something else?

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Thoughts on Chesterton?

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Anglicanism

What is anglicanism? Is it just catholism without a pope?

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How does one know if they're right for seminary?

I'd like to join a traditional society, like the ICKSP, FSSP, IBP. I've only been a Catholic for two years, but I can feel a calling to this life - should I become a brother first? Has anyone here gone to seminary?

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Music Thread; Modernists Plz Go Edition

Dropping some things I'm listening to in this thread, feel free to contribute

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Orthodox Church of Ukraine

In this thread we'll post updates in Ukraine and their newly founded church so we don't have to derail the Orthodox general

The news are running like crazy and i think many people haven't yet realised the significance of the event.

We can also discuss our objections to the autocephaly if anyone has any. All opinions welcome but please try to be civil and elaborate on your disagreement.

Catholic opinions also welcome but please try to stay on topic.

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YouVersion App Changes the KJV

Someone pointed this out to me about 6 months ago. Can't find anything explaining all the changes between these two versions. Beware.

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Joseph Prince

Redpill me on Joseph Prince. I have a bad feeling about him and his teaching seems slightly off, but I can’t pin it.

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Becoming a Christian Influencer

How do I make a living by creating Christian content online? I want to be like Paul who lives off donations of the faithful

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Is Football a Christian game?

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If you oppose preistly celibacy, you are a Modernist.

Early in the church there were problems with nepotism in the selection of Bishops and the fact that small parishes can't necessarily afford to support a priest and his family. That is the practical argument… but, in addition, Scripture (and the Church) teaches that celibacy is superior to the married state. What these people are arguing here is to undermine the tenets and foundations of the Church for some nebulous notion of posterity. This isn't far removed from the "progress without principle" ethos of your average neo-liberal. Religion is not a mere cultural institution, it is an ideal and it is a path of transcendence for those that reject the zero sum game of earthly material existence. The Gospel should not be compromised to accommodate mundane convictions. What most people don't understand about canon law is that any minister, priest or deacon, married or not, is called to clerical continence (that means no sex at all). I believe when the married diaconate was re-allowed back in the middle of the 20th century, deacons were encouraged to be older since there would be no touchy-touchy with the wife. Wives needed to give their consent to this too. The Catholic Church is not Eastern Orthodoxy and there is no reason we should ape their practices. The Eastern Catholics are very similar to Eastern Orthodoxy in that they are structured around ethnic groups, the liturgy is in that ethnic group's language and the majority of the congregation is of that ethnicity. There is far more trust there. The last thing the Church needs to do right now is give in to the modern idea that sex is paramount. There is also the issue that many parishes are in debt and can barely afford to run themselves, much less support the priest's family. It also prevents dilettantish curate-types from becoming priests, which appears to be on balance a good thing. If you want to look at why the protestant denominations have become so trashy and diluted, this looks like just another point. The priesthood is regarded as an incredibly serious vocation. It's not to be divided among other pursuits; a priest with a wife is as self-contradictory as a priest running a Fortune 500 company or hosting a talk show. It has always been a vocation for men willing to devote themselves to it completely. The progression of gays through the ranks, in my opinion, had little to do with the marriage prohibition, and is a fairly recent trend that picked up speed with the dissolving of moral restraint mid-century. The decline in men pursuing the priesthood had more to do with changes in family structure, the centrality of religious life, and the rise of consumerism and mass society. If the marriage prohibition didn't cause it, then abolishing the prohibition won't fix it. The Catholic abuse scandals are not a scathing indictment of a certain group of people (secular/other religious institutions have similar rates of abuse), rather, it's a sign of the times.

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If we're to love everyone as Christians, how do I stop hating humans?

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Former pick up artist Roosh V changes forum rules to not lead men to sin

>Due to my recent turn to faith, my sense of morality is becoming based on the Bible. I've stopped a lot of behaviors that I've used to do and am in the process of making other changes. I've also realized that the majority of my published materials and online platforms lead men into sin or enable them to partake in sin. I no longer want this to occur, so I am implementing two new rules on the forum that are effective on June 1, 2019.

1 .You can no longer discuss fornication or pre-marital sexual activity

Things you can discuss:

-Meeting women with the intention of entering a relationship with them

-Attracting women

-Going on dates

-How to enter relationships

-Using technology to meet women

-How to maintain relationships

-Sexual activity while married

Things you can no longer discuss:

-Meeting women with the intention of fornicating with them

-How to bang

-Physical intimacy with women you're not married to beyond the act of kissing

-Maintaining relationships with multiple women (i.e. spinning plates)

-Cheating on significant others (adultery)

-Using technology to fornicate

-Discussion of travel destinations which are best for fornication

-Stories of sexual activity while not married

-Promoting masturbation, oral sex, anal sex, etc.

2. You can no longer use pornographic or vulgar language

-Refrain from using terms like "I winnie the poohed her" or "I want to winnie the pooh her." Do not describe sexual encounters or situations that are beyond the act of kissing unless you are married.

-Refrain from using profanity if a cleaner word would suffice.

These rules will cause great change to the forum

The above two rules will mostly apply to the Game and Travel subforums. I know that I may lose some of you because of these rules, but I can no longer help men lead a life of sin, because doing so is weighing on my conscious.

I created this forum in 2008 to help men fornicate, so I don't know if it's possible to "retrofit" it for another purpose, but it's worth a try. In the meanwhile, I will gradually lock threads that break these new rules if they become active. The fully updated rules that new members see is stickied in the Everything Else forum. It can be viewed here.

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-73256.html

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If you add on a sin you just remembered to confess before the priest absolves you but he doesn't understand you intend to confess it, are you absolved or not?

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Christian "dating" thread.

A thread to discuss how to find a christian woman to love, marry and be fruitful and multiply.

And maybe things that are related (how to be a man, how to prepare to be a good family man, what should we learn,…)

Of course, I use the term dating with quotes, because I obviously don't refer to the (((Hookup-culture)))/(((casual sex))) fornication.

I assume that everyone ought to marry virgin and sexual pure, both man and woman in this context.

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What is Christian Identity?

I know that it's bullshit and heresy, but I wanted to ask what exactly it is? Is it a sect or a cult? Or is just every racist version of christianity Christian Identity? For example Deutsche Christen in the Third Reich.

If the question doesn't belong here, please delete it. I just want to know, and don't know where to ask.

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Modesty General

Since the last thread was hijacked by shills let's keep this thread to point.

Let's share ideas on how to influence your surroundings to become more modest - that is - women near you to dress more modestly. This could also concern guys but I guess none of us here is the "alpha chad" who flashes his body around for women.

If you want to countersignal too hard, feel free to spam the other thread that has been derailed already.

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athiests

was debating some atheists on /gif/ on 4chan and they don't listen. they ruined a good thread with an OP with 5 sevens at the end.

How do you debate with these people. I provide sources but they ignore it. what do?

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As a preface I've been drinking tonight.

I used to be very active here in 2014 when I was 15 years old, during the /pol/ exodus. I was active before the exodus in the old /pol/ christian general threads. I miss those days. Everything made so much sense, I was so intent on what to do when I "grew up". Stuff didnt turn out as I thought. I lost my faith around 17, moved out of my parents house, started forgoing sleep to have premarital sex with disgusting thots and stay up under the influence of various substances. I'm a functional screw up. I am addicted to sex, I like both men and women despite being myself a man, yet I abstain from sex with men through some grace of God. I have a ton of gay furry porn on my computer. I'm a degenerate, completely through, I dont even know how it got to this point. I'm only 19 yet I feel irredeemable. I am also probably an alcoholic. The purpose of this drunken thread is this: please pray for me. Please. I was saved at one point in my life, I read the Bible every day, I prayed with my whole heart, I was chaste, I didnt drink. It wasnt too long ago, and it was inspired through interactions with probably some of you guys reading this right now. I turned away in youthful folly, for lack of a better word, and I made a grave, grave mistake by doing so. Please, pray for me, give me some advice lads.

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Did the Church change Its teaching regarding usury?

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Should I wait around for God to act against the wicked?

Or should I act upon my wisdom that God has blessed me with?

To act and to show I lack faith in God?

Or to act and to be blessed for trying?

Is one right and other wrong?

Are both right?

Help.

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Self-Improvement General

I declare open this thread, as a guide to self development in the path of the superior christian man we all strive to be.

Make it like the other cyclical threads, so that we may all post about any recommendations and question we may have, about self improvement as human, not necessarily related to religion, but about leading a proper christian life.

Also, it is noted in various resources of the type, how its important for men to keep regular friendship with equally strong men, where we can brutally honest with each other, and find out if we were being lazy, false and just complacent about some objective or our path in life. So may we make this also a space where you share your plans, open and truthfully so others may judge if you're being honest with yourself on your purpose. Give updates and feedback so that we all may grow on our own.

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Conversion

God Bless you all brothers in Christ! I'm a South African Lutheran who's been thinking about converting to Orthodoxy or Catholicism.Is there someone who might Christpill me on one of those two denominations?

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Pray for me.

Tonight I got drunk. I really regret it and understand that it is a sin. I woke up naked on my floor covered in vomit. I felt like Noah. This has kinda been a wake up call. Recently I have been having a lot of problems with drugs and alcohol. My soul loves God but my body loves drugs. Please pray for me to stop drugs and alcohol. Thank you.

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Imperator Rome

I know aside from reading the Bible that you all have been putting in some considerable time on this game. How is everyone's Judea campaign going?

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Jews

Christanons, I need your help. My dad keeps saying that we can't curse jews because they're "God's chosen people" and, according to him, the Bible says that those who curse the jews will have bad luck or something like that. I wanna know what those passages mean. Thanks.

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Sinful nature of Man

Ancestral Sin, Original Sin, Total Depravity - who gets it right?

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What are all the protestant versions of christianity? (I don't know how to say it. English isn't my first language)

For example Baptism and Lutherism. What are the others? And what's the difference between them?

I'm really sorry for the bad english.

And pic unrelated

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Evola on Catholicism

Generally speaking, it must be felt as evident that beyond earthly life there is a higher life, as only those who feel this way have an intangible and unconquerable strength and are capable, when necessary, of active sacrifice and absolute elan. In the opposite case, to have little regard for one's life is possible only in moments of exaltation and when irrational forces are unleashed, while disciplines that aim beyond an individual's life cannot be endowed with a higher meaning. I have already discussed this in chapter 3; without a similar direct reference to a reality that is more than human, there can be no overcoming of the solutions advanced by a utilitarian and contractual sociology, nor a climate of high political tension. However, a given religious confession may be used only as a support for such an orientation, and merely in terms of an arousing action. In Catholicism, specific reservations should be made. Concerning the political dimension, if Catholicism, feeling that decisive times were approaching, had the strength to rise above the contingent plane and to follow a line of high asceticism; and if, on such a basis, Catholicism, almost as in a revival of the medieval Crusades, had not hesitated to fortify faith with the soul of an armed, united, and inexorable bloc of powers, set against the currents of chaos, compromise, and the political materialism of the age—in that event there would have been no doubts as to its value. However, things happened otherwise.

Aside from the relativist Catholic view that no particular political regime may be regarded as "willed by God" or even accorded special acknowledgment; and after the times of De Maistre, Bonald, Donoso Cortes, and the Syllabus have passed, Catholicism has been characterized by political maneuvering and by its taking advantage of various situations, avoiding any stance that is too committed. Inevitably, the Church's sympathies must gravitate toward a democratic-liberal political system. Moreover, Catholicism had for a long time espoused the theory of "natural right," which hardly agrees with the positive and differentiated right on which a strong and hierarchical State can he built. Nowadays things have deteriorated in the sense of a rapid, disturbing collapse of every valid element in Catholicism, and in the sense of a desire to "be in tune with the times," with the modern world, and with the direction of history

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I studied philosophy and wrote a book on the future of transhumanism and how it brings us away from Christianity. It's about 140 pages and available in PDF form for free.

https://dubioustunic.blogspot.com/2019/04/ethics-as-warfare-metaphysics-and.html

Ethics as Warfare is a book that describes the philosophical confrontation between transhumanism and the Christian tradition. In the Christian case, faith in the Word, who was incarnate as man, has us maintain the human species. In the non-Christian case, the human essence is no longer the ground of Natural Law. In fact, we are to become beings capable of sculpting Natural Law, like unto gods. This is the meaning of the "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil." This god-potential of mankind is obviously a threat to the Christian tradition, as well as Enlightenment values; yet it is inevitable. So where will you end up?

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The concept of Purgatory is comfy.

>You probably are not sin-free and instead of just disregarding sin like that concept doesn't matter, you get to go to Purgatory with a lot of other people like you & get cleansed

>If there is something like TV shows in heaven, there are probably many comfy tv shows similar to Misfits, where a band of Misfits get together and learn how to be better people over the course of many seasons

>you have a purpose, you know what you are working towards

>probably many interesting conversations with people that died before or after you, you get to learn a lot about other people's lives and how they ended up in purgatory

>nice comfy radical treatment, if you have sinned a lot and burn for a few years to really get your soul nice and clean

I am a Protestant, but I don't get why so many evangelical types in the US are so terrified of a bit of purgatory.

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RooshV interviews E. Michael Jones

It mostly talk about sexual immorality/fornication and the harm that it does to society and it also talks about the Jews at the end, the latest Synagogue hooting and (((Dr.Brown))).

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=uYOcyDRcG1E

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I am looking to buy a study Bible for the Orthodox faith, and am just wondering which version you would recommend

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Map your spiritual journey

>raised protestant (Church of Christ)

>agnostic at 13

>atheist at 14

>gnostic occultist at 15

>protestant (Church of Christ) again at 17

>Orthodox at 20

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St Louis Christanons

Anyone else posting from this forsaken hell? I'm lonely

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Jewish "christian" Dr.Brown is a liar and very dangerous.

And he will protect his tribe at all costs and call everyone an anti-Semite instead of embracing Christ.

You might have seen the debate between him and Dr. E.Michael Jones and how he was not listening to what Dr. Jones was saying and trying to protect the Jews at all cost. Then, he blamed Dr.Jones has a "Christian Anti-Semite" and responsible for the Synagogue Shooting…And he also edited the video on his channel to put words in the mouth of EMJ and then lied about it when he got caught.

And now, he has sunken to a even lower point when he interviewed Rev. Ted Pike, it's just a pathetic behavior and this Dr.Brown guy is extremely dangerous if he gets his way, he is more worried to protect his tribe of the children of Satan at all cause than to embrace Jesus-Christ, by spreading lies, sophism and misdirection.

If he gets his way, and that you disagree with his obvious protestant jew-centrist interpretation of the bible, he will send you to jail for being a "Christian anti-Semite".

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Crossdressing

Ever since I was little I enjoyed crossdressing. I don't remember it so well, but when I was little, my parents would let me dress up in my sister's dresses and things.

As I grew older, I became aware that this wasn't socially acceptable within my society, so I stopped doing it, until a few years later when I discovered internet porn, when I was around 11 or 12. Specifically I discovered feminization porn and had many fantasies pertaining to it.

I was too afraid to buy women's clothing in person, I was very shy back then, and I had no credit card so I couldn't order any online, so I kept fetishizing it, until I came upon online communities that shamed me out of enjoying crossdressing fantasies at around 15/16, and I repressed my feelings.

Now I've long since abandoned those fantasies, and I've long since abandoned repression of them too, which I accomplished through acceptance, and refusing to care about human's judgements of me, and therefore removed the aspect of societal shame I felt while crossdressing. Once that shame was removed, the sexuality of it ebbed away too, after a few sessions where the fetishization still lingered during the first few moments.

I still enjoy crossdressing, but there's no sexuality involved anymore. I'm aware of the verse "A woman must not wear men's clothing, nor a man wear women's clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this."

So I guess my question is, do you think god detests me? Something i'm afraid of is that God made me a transgender woman, do you think that's something that God does? It would help explain why I enjoy dressing like a woman… If I am one, do you think He wants me to go through with a transition? I'm not saying God makes mistakes, I know He doesn't, but it's true that all humans are imperfect because of original sin, so maybe this is just one of my imperfections… but i'm not sure what i'm supposed to do! When I wear a dress it makes me feel nice… and this whole time… i'm not exactly sure why i'm bringing this up or how to summarize it succinctly but i'm kind of afraid that I became legitimately traumatized growing up! Maybe because of porn, maybe because of bullying, maybe because of self hatred, maybe because of isolation… but then I see people who've been raped… who've been through war and I feel so ashamed and insignificant and weak compared to them! But I also remember times I walked around and the world seemed fake… these time I think were episodes of disassociation, which is only brought about by trauma. And I know a lot of other things happened…

And, this is kind of off topic, but what about women who wear jeans? Are they sinning?

Ah… i'm so tired right now, sorry if anything was unclear.

I'm sorry, i'm asking this in good faith, please don't be mean… even though I know a lot of you might hate people like me, I don't know, I haven't been on 8chan in a few years… goodnight…

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Why is death the punishment for sin in general and not just specific sins? I looked up the list of capital offences in the Old Testament and it’s surprisingly short (not to mention, only applicable to those under the Mosaic covenant).

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This man scientifically proved the existence of God. What have you done?

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Best Prayer Books?

I'm looking for some books to strengthen my prayer life

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Sedevacantism

Can someone PLEASE convince me that Sedevacantism is correct, or even somewhat tenable? The state of the Church leaves me feeling broken everyday… the crisis and apostasy within the Church and among the laity is at least as bad as the Arian crisis, if not worse.

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I Failed

I don't know what to do or where to go. Janitors/mods please have mercy on me if this breaks some rules.

I have been plagued with homosexual temptations since I was 11 years old (now 18). About the same age I was introduced to internet pornography (no surprise). I've been resisting them as much as I can over the years. I'm attracted to and have only dated women, but deep within my mind an attraction and urge to engage with men has existed, tormenting me. Tonight, I failed. I thought I had put all of the crossdressing, gay urges, etc behind me but iy resurfaced in a way that I succumbed to. I engaged in sexual actions with other men only a few hours ago.

I don' know what to do. How do I fight/rid myself of these urges? I don't feel any guilt and that worries me. I don't want to be a sodomite. Please help me and pray for me.

ITT: How to combat homosexual urges.

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Methodism - UMCnext

I honestly don't know how to react. Homosexuality was shut down earlier this year at the impromptu general conference that these heretics pushed, wasting untold sums of money that could have been put to better use. Now they've decided to have a secret meeting where the identities of people attending are kept secret (unless they're dumb enough to post on Twitter) and none of the meeting is live streamed or recorded since this meeting hasn't been sanctioned by the church.

These people are rejecting the word of God and the law of man that they swore to abide by. Our bishops are too spineless to actual follow the Book of Discipline. My local church's admin council has begun putting together an exit strategy if these heretics manage to push homosexuality through.

I don't even know what I want to do. I just wish these people would leave and make their own church without trying to corrupt the church that my family has followed for centuries.

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How important is it to be able to read the Bible in its original Latin?

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Women ministers?

Can women be priests/pastors?

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Non-Christian Christian Media Thread

Post Books/Movies/Music that isn't explicitly Christian but totally is Christian

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Thinking

Do you think there is a single Calvinist out there that doesn't consider himself one the mythical pre-chosen for salvation?

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Create appology of anti-masturbation here ?

https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/if-your-right-hand-causes-you-to-sin

Most bible idolaters (Protestants) will cherry pick to say that masturbation is "ok" and not forbidden, but it is extremely clear that it is forbidden implicitly and rationally too.

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Why do some Catholics not know about God the Son?

Now, this is just from my own impression, I haven't asked them specifically, but from the way they speak it has made me question wether or not they believe (or know even) in God the Son. Everyone knows about the Son of God, but I'm seriously starting to doubt wether or not most Catholics know about God the Son. I have heard them say that they believe in: God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit as if this is supposed to be a confession of the trinity. You see the problem? Is this something that you have encountered as well amongst layman Catholics? Should the Church do a better job at teaching the Trinity?

Even when we look outside the Catholic Church I think that most people in the world (you could simply try this out for yourself by simply asking WHO was Jesus in the Bible?) who knows of Jesus, doesn't know about his divinity. Maybe the Church has put too much emphasis on the Son-part, and not so much on the God-Son part.

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Cryptids and the Bible

Does the Bible support Cryptids? If so how do Cyptids fit in God world? Not talking about possible demonic entities like blackeye children, The Rake or Shadow people. Talking flesh blood creatures like Bigfoot, Dogmen, Gugwes, Chupacabra, Giant squids and lake monsters.

https://dogmanencounters.com/about-dogmen/

https://cryptidz.fandom.com/wiki/Gugwe

https://cryptidz.fandom.com/wiki/Sasquatch

https://cryptidz.fandom.com/wiki/Chupacabra

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Please convince me that Christianity is not a 'weak' religion

I am about to return to the faith brothers. I have read the Bible and also try to go to Mass regularly. But I have some doubts when I look around and see the state of the West. I have the feeling we do not encourage fighting anymore, or any heroic virtues. The Pope tells us that we have to welcome refugees. Please, please convince that this is not the case. I saw these quotes from the Church Fathers in another thread and they really make me doubt now:

Epistle of Mathetes to Diognetus

>But, inhabiting Greek as well as barbarian cities, according as the lot of each of them has determined, and following the customs of the natives in respect to clothing, food, and the rest of their ordinary conduct, they display to us their wonderful and confessedly striking method of life. They dwell in their own countries, but simply as sojourners. As citizens, they share in all things with others, and yet endure all things as if foreigners. Every foreign land is to them as their native country, and every land of their birth as a land of strangers. They marry, as do all [others]; they beget children; but they do not destroy their offspring. They have a common table, but not a common bed. They are in the flesh, but they do not live after the flesh. 2 Corinthians 10:3 They pass their days on earth, but they are citizens of heaven. Philippians 3:20 They obey the prescribed laws, and at the same time surpass the laws by their lives. They love all men, and are persecuted by all. They are unknown and condemned; they are put to death, and restored to life. 2 Corinthians 6:9 They are poor, yet make many rich; 2 Corinthians 6:10 they are in lack of all things, and yet abound in all; they are dishonoured, and yet in their very dishonour are glorified. They are evil spoken of, and yet are justified; they are reviled, and bless; 2 Corinthians 4:12 they are insulted, and repay the insult with honour; they do good, yet are punished as evil-doers. When punished, they rejoice as if quickened into life; they are assailed by the Jews as foreigners, and are persecuted by the Greeks; yet those who hate them are unable to assign any reason for their hatred.

Tertullian, Of the Soldier’s Crown, Chapter 11:

>when a man has become a believer, and faith has been sealed, there must be either an immediate abandonment of it [military service], which has been the course with many; or all sorts of quibbling will have to be resorted to in order to avoid offending God, and that is not allowed even outside of military service; or, last of all, for God the fate must be endured which a citizen-faith has been no less ready to accept.Neither does military service hold out escape from punishment of sins, or exemption from martyrdom.

Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho, 110

>us the Christians, who, having learned the true worship of God from the law, and the word which went forth from Jerusalem by means of the apostles of Jesus, have fled for safety to the God of Jacob and God of Israel; and we who were filled with war, and mutual slaughter, and every wickedness, have each through the whole earth changed our warlike weapons,–our swords into ploughshares, and our spears into implements of tillage,–and we cultivate piety, righteousness, philanthropy, faith, and hope, which we have from the Father Himself through Him who was crucified;

Ireneus, Against Heresies (Book IV, Chapter 34-4)

>But if the law of liberty, that is, the word of God, preached by the apostles (who went forth from Jerusalem) throughout all the earth, caused such a change in the state of things, that these [nations] did form the swords and war-lances into ploughshares, and changed them into pruning-hooks for reaping the grain, [that is], into instruments used for peaceful purposes, and that they are now unaccustomed to fighting, but when smitten, offer also the other cheek, Matthew 5:39 then the prophets have not spoken these things of any other person, but of Him who effected them

Origen, Contra Celsum, Book V, 33

>And to those who inquire of us whence we come, or who is our founder, we reply that we have come, agreeably to the counsels of Jesus, to cut down our hostile and insolent 'wordy' swords into ploughshares, and to convert into pruning-hooks the spears formerly employed in war. For we no longer take up sword against nation, nor do we learn war any more, having become children of peace, for the sake of Jesus, who is our leader

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The Blessed Virgin is the most powerful intercessor

How can you get into Heaven without asking for her to pray for you? The Son can't refuse what His mother asks of Him.

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Do you believe a holy war is coming to Europe between Muslims and Christians? As in India, where Hindus and Muslims have been fighting for the past few hundred years after the Muslims invaded, now Europe is being invaded. Do you think Christians and Muslims will begin clashing in Europe?

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Is Not Having Kids Okay?

>Jeremiah 16 (NABRE) "This word came to me from the LORD 'Do not take a wife and do not have sons and daughters in this place,for thus says the LORD concerning the sons and daughters born in this place, the mothers who give them birth, the fathers who beget them in this land:

Of deadly disease they shall die. Unlamented and unburied they will lie like dung on the ground.'"

Is it okay for a Christian to chose not to have kids, given that (1) this nation (America) has become so wicked and perverse that it will be nearly impossible to keep them out of hell or safe from God's likely oncoming wrath against the children of millennial, and (2) I've committed horrific sins and don't want this evil, or Earthly punishment for this evil, passed on to my offspring?

I've struggled a lot over the above verse. It seems to poke holes in the ideas that (a) God never rescinded the command to "be fruitful and multiply" and (b) that it's God's will every time a child will created. If he didn't want Jeremiah to have children during that age of incredible suffering, couldn't he just not have created them when Jeremiah had sex? But instead, he's saying "don't do it bro, because if you do, I'm gonna give you a kid and that kid's life is really gonna suck"

What do you guys think? I can't stop thinking about this verse. Is it valid to not want kids, out of love and fear for their well being, or should all men try to procreate?

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The Protestant Reformation

Thoughts?

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Kabane the Christian (Ortho) against Catholicism

Any thoughts?

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I thought Russia was becoming Orthodox Holy Land 2.0

Russians turn to sex coaches to overcome Soviet-era taboos

Moscow (AFP) - Surrounded by erotic toys, half a dozen women of all ages sit in a central Moscow basement facing a whiteboard as a sex coach trains them in speaking openly about their sexual desires.

"I finally want to know what it's like to be a satisfied woman, what sexual pleasure is," one of the "students", aged 45 and divorced, told AFP.

Barely spoken about publicly in Soviet times and with the Kremlin pushing conservative values in recent years, sex, as a subject, remains largely an unmentionable in Russia. To help people overcome their shyness in talking about sexual pleasure, sexologist training courses, psychologists and so-called sex coaches are now appearing in Moscow, adding to TV shows and articles in women's magazines.

Viktoria Ekaterina Frank, a psychologist and sexologist, said that her course at the Sex.rf school did not aim to teach sex techniques but rather "help women understand the psychological barriers engrained in their heads".

Many women are "so embarrassed to talk about sex, they can barely breathe", she said.

- 'No sex' in USSR -

Nearly three decades after the end of the USSR, Russian society remains deeply marked by the aura of taboo around the issue of sex in the Soviet Union, according to sociologists. Soviet authorities primarily promoted the idea that "the sexual act should serve only for reproduction," sociologist Yelena Kochkina told AFP.

"This means that sexuality was not talked about in the family or at school," she said.

A TV interview from the beginning of the Perestroika era immortalised the Soviet prudish and practical attitude to sex, even if it was far from true in practice. During a 1986 talk show broadcast in the United States and the USSR, an American woman asked a Soviet woman if there was sex in adverts in the Soviet Union.

"There is no sex back home, we are categorically against it," the Russian replied, in an exchange that has become a part of popular culture.

- Feast or famine -

Although it was off limits in public discourse in the Soviet era, everyone was having sex and "maybe even too much", said Dmitry Rogozin, a sociology professor at the Russian Academy of Sciences. Abortion at the time was often used as contraception due to the pill and condoms being unavailable and, as a result, the number of terminations was one of the highest in the world at the beginning of the 1990s. When the USSR collapsed in 1991, a sex industry burst on to the scene, with a wave of erotic films on video cassette or in cinemas, magazines with racy photos and adverts in the popular press. Sex coach Yelena Rydkina said that after the initial "crazy boom in interest", suddenly it became too much, causing fear and rejection, and people turned away. Inspired by sex coaching classes she attended in San Francisco in the US, Rydkina began teaching courses in Moscow where "people can talk normally about sex".

"Politics in the last 10 years is moving away from open sexuality and propagates traditional family values," she said.

Nevertheless, there is now a "real demand" for more coverage of sex-related issues, leading to a rise in sex blogging in Russia, added Rydkina. One such blogger is Tatyana Dmitriyeva, who founded Sexprosvet, a popular website that aims to "develop sex culture in Russia". She set up the site three years ago because she said that there was nowhere to seriously discuss the subject.

"I wanted to change that, I wanted to start a dialogue," she told AFP.

Dmitriyeva also organises burlesque shows and regular pop-up markets of erotic accessories in Moscow, all as part of efforts, she said, to promote "sex that is not boring".

- Safer than politics -

For sociologist Rogozin, a lack of open political debate in Russia has now made talking about sex more attractive. With authorities increasing their control over the media and internet, often blocking content linked to the opposition, Rogozin said that Russians found freedom of expression in talking about sex.

"Intimacy is seen as a form of escape from dangerous political activity," he told AFP. "People are more eager to talk about sex than politics."

The appetite for open discussion, however, stops short at homosexuality – considered by the state as a mental illness until 1999, he said. Authorities, citing "traditional" values, have banned gay pride parades and clamped down on so-called homosexual propaganda among minors.

"Being gay is ok for celebrities, but not for those who live next door," Rogozin said.

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Christian feels thread? Christian feels thread.

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I don't understand the old testament

I've decided to read the bible in hopes of finding something of value for my own spiritual development. I started from the very beginning and now have finished the old testament.

Sadly, I didn't find anything of value at all. It felt bloated, inconsistent and repetetive. Some parts were long and dry descriptions of jewish law, which are irrelevant to christians. Some part were long and dry description of jewish history and their line of kings, which, I guess is somewhat relevant to Jesus' heritage and the perception and importance of "kings" in jewish and christian faiths. Most of it, however, was repetition. Someone disobeys God, God punishes them, prophets preach about how people shouldn't do that again. Rinse and repeat, over and over again.

I haven't read the new testament yet but from what I've heard it's the part that is most relevant for christians. But apart from that, why would I ever need to read the old testament again? Am I too stupid to understand the underlying message? And why are the "rewards and punishments" in the OT being delivered during life, while in the NT they are being delivered after death? I mean, in the old testament people were blessed with wealth and health for obeying and were stricken by poverty, disease and death for disobeying God. Nobody even cared about afterlife, which is the complete opposite from what is supposedly being taught in the NT.

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Reminder that if you’re cut off from Apostolic Christianity, you’re cut off from Christ’s Gospel.

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Can I just follow the Bible without having to worry about all of this denominationism?

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I'm worried I have a vocation to priesthood but I just want to get married.

What do? My gf is gonna be heartbroken.

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Is frogposting a sin?

So I was browsing through the annals of cuckchan /pol/ and I stumbled upon an interesting discussion. A French anon admonished two other anons that claimed to be traditional Catholics and posted images of Pepe the Frog and his friend Groyper in Church attire.

While this discussion may seem silly, the French guy makes sense. Its very common to find such images in imageboards such as this one. I might be wrong, but doesn't the Second Commandment commands us to treat ecclesiastical things with reverence? If that is the case, it does seem wrong to post images of frogs dressed as monks/priests/the Pope. However, I would like to hear the opinion of other anons on this issue. Who was right in pic related discussion?

>inb4 baptist funposters start complaining about ecclesiastical vestments

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Is it sinful to read the Scriptures of other religions? I obviously don't plan on believing them though

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Rational Bible or other options?

I want books that explain and explore Biblical stories. I really liked Dennis Prager's Rational Bible: Exodus, particularly its formatting and easy-to-understand explanations. I'm thinking about buying the Genesis book in May, but I'm not sure if there are better options out there.

Thoughts, Christanons?

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The pope should allow priests to marry. Change my mind.

>This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

1 Timothy 3 1-7

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The Amish

Thoughts on the Amish community and Anabaptists as a whole? Seems like a nice bunch by today's standards especially.

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Reading Nietzsche

Good evening /christian/,

I'm sure I share a love for literature and reading with you. There are all manner of books and authors I would like to read. One of them is Friedrich Nietzsche. Now of course I oppose Nietzsche simply on the basis of his anti-Christianity and tendency towards nihilism and subjectivity, evidenced by his rejection of God as the Divine Logos. I do however, based on my very limited knowledge, believe that Nietzsche in his worldview acknowledges certain truths about human behavior and motivation. Mainly in the idea of "The Will to Power". Whether or not I am wrong, right, or ignorant about the matter, I would like to read him for myself.

I come asking for advice on the subject. For those who have read his work, what should I read, what order should I read it in, is there anything I should know about him beforehand, etc…

Since my being confirmed Catholic a couple of weeks ago, I have felt as though a new chapter in my life has been reached. Presently I am a somewhat aimless, unmotivated, lanklet who struggles with mortal sin. However, I am on track to make efforts to fix it by God's help. Reading more is a part of this effort. Reading Nietzsche may be a part of this effort. At any rate, I appreciate your input. I will attempt to respond as much as I can.

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Sedevacantists are protestant

sedevacantists broke off from the catholic church because they believe it became corrupt, they're just as protestant as Luther.

Also pretty sure Luther said something like "I didn't leave the catholic church, the catholic church left me"

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Can I eat halal food? Or does that count as eating food offered to a pagan deity?

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Fellow Catholics I'm planning on going to my first Traditional Mass this weekend, what should I know?

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The hardest teaching

What is the hardest teaching of Christianity/your denomination that you find most difficult to accept? For me it's euthanasia. Of course, I accept that it's murder and cannot be allowed, but it's difficult for me and my heart cannot fully oppose it, as much as I would want to. I can't help but to feel sympathetic torwards people wanting to end their suffering

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Divorce

How many Protestant on here support divorce? It is very *very* clearly prohibited by the Bible. Most prots I know irl are perfectly fine with divorce and remarriage.

>Matthew 19:06-10 Therefore now they are not two, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let no man put asunder. … [7] They say to him: Why then did Moses command to give a bill of divorce, and to put away? … [8] He saith to them: Because Moses by reason of the hardness of your heart permitted you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. … [9] And I say to you, that whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and he that shall marry her that is put away, committeth adultery. … [10] His disciples say unto him: If the case of a man with his wife be so, it is not expedient to marry.

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Faith Crisis

I am starting to realise that one cannot be Christian yet reject young Earth creationism, Adam and Eve being the literal first humans, Genesis chapter 5, the Flood, the Tower of Babel, Joshua 10:12-14, etc. etc. etc. This not being real truly kills the faith and so do dinosaurs. Most Christians pretend it's not a massive problem and hate being reminded of it because they know it is, as I did. I used to do mental gymnastics to convince myself that it's not supposed to all be accepted as literal and almost went the polar-opposite way thinking "maybe modern scientific knowledge is all a lie" and nearly accept AnswersInGenesis' stuff but due to my love for science and intellectual honesty I feel that I need to stop lying to myself and playing dumb.

What I do know is that I am not starting to reject biblical history because the theology doesn't feel right to me and because "I want to sin without feeling guilty". I, without any doubt, accept Christian moral teachings and will surely continue to live my life striving to embrace the seven virtues and avoiding the seven sins. I just honestly have no genuine faith in stuff like the genealogy of Christ and yet it is extremely important to the faith. I will always love Him because He was undoubtedly a good man who did nothing but bring good to the world and continues to this day, His suffering inspires me, St. Paul makes me want it all to be real even more. I believe Christ is the most important human being to have ever existed and that the Christian faith has more value than any other religion. People unironically "need Jesus" as He is synonymous with "Good".

However, I just don't feel that it's true anymore, despite the faith of the apostles and despite all the signs which seem to confirm it. I used to tell myself "even if I found out it's false, I'll still convince myself that it's true because it has to be" but now I realise that it's a sad way of thinking. I love Christ and Christian theology, as well as Scripture which I will be reading all my life, but if the Flood didn't actually happen, it's not the true religion and Heaven and Hell as described in the Bible aren't real which means that even if there is an after-life, which I still believe there is, and that we have been faithful in this one till the end, we may never meet Him. He was a young Earth creationist Himself and if He was wrong about this, then He wasn't God incarnated and thus didn't rise from the dead. As St. Paul said: "…if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain and your faith is in vain." (1Cor.15:14)

Any thoughts?

PS: atheism is not the issue here

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The nature of Satan

I have a couple of questions regarding Satan and the temptation of Christ in the desert.

Christ tells us to love our enemies. Satan is his enemy.

- Does it mean he loves Satan too?

- Is Satan a person that has fallen to sin or is he the personification of evil and sin?

- If he is a fallen person, where does he come from and can/will he be saved? I don't believe that him being a fallen angel was mentioned anywhere in the Bible.

- If he is the personification of evil and sin, how can Jesus still love him?

- If he is the personification of evil and sin, then who created him?

- If he was created by God, wouldn't that mean that God created evil and sin?

- If Satan is not real and his presence is only metaphorical, then who spoke to Christ and was tempting him? Did the temptation come from his own heart?

Not trying to provoke anyone or ask trick question, just wanted to understand that part better.

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World Peace

Will we ever consecrate Russia to Her Immaculate Heart christbros?

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Mormons

What do you think personally about them? And do they even count as christians?

I've heard that there are different mormons out there. For example LDS, Community of Christ, FLDS…

What's the difference between them?

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Post rare Andersons. Don’t take it too far

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Recent Catholic convert here. Throughout my reading of Christian literature it promises me peace and that turning from Sin will make me happy. No matter how much I try to turn from sin, I don't feel peace of mind whatsoever, in fact I become depressed and then end up going back to sin. I have no problem believing in God and in everything. Perhaps it is Satans doing, it probably is but it is powerful, I become miserable and unhappy, my heart sinks, it becomes such a heavy weight.

Is this a test?

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So, now that the dust has settled, does Amoris Laetitia permit communion for adulterers?

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KJV or NASB?

I hear that NASB is closer in translation to older documents, yet KJV is shilled a lot by lots of people I care to listen to. Which one should i go with? My heart says NASB but my mind says KJV

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Squabble Squabble Squabble

You don't actually spend more time arguing with strangers online than you spend time practicing your faith right Anon?

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Crucifixion by Paul

Jesus is not a sacrifice for our sins as Paul said, to justify us because we are iniquity. Saying he, for us to believe in Jesus to be saved, without knowing what is belief, not even explaining what is faith (belief and faith is synonymous).

He sacrificed himself to speak a word it the mouth to be understood. And for him to be understood we need to have faith. If a true emissor say: A tree it a sunflower. We believe, but we don't believe, until it is said to us that the sunflower always show her face to the sun. And the sun goes from east to west, and this is the same it the sunflower face. But it's the same if the flower is it a tree ? Then our faith is increased and we can walk upon the sea and not fail. Do you believe in Peter walking in the sea ?

See sheep, hear this fat sheep: Belief without understanding is the you that i have showed. Your faith could be a lack of faith and in the worst case no faith, because you can't meditate upon words and go into the sea to catch fish it your boat.

There isn't a creation of a faith in the individual by histeria and self blindness to your doubts that you hide. To admit doubt is to eliminate doubt by searching refutations, knowledge. Not admitting is to carry a heavy stone that will not make you go up without help. And to admit is part of the allegory of circuncision. And you will cut the foreskin and reveal what is hidden.

And now i can begin saying: The faith in the words, works, passings, everything that emanated from Jesus, reveals himself and we can finally have faith, the faith that i explained to you in Jesus because he is his emanations and emanations are him.

He walked among men going into the sheeps, it his hands to make his miraculous work of healing and building, it his mouth to give instruction of where to eat grass to give us the right nutrients to grow, and the food to be part of us.

Then by this show of the right grass, he was being against the vanity of the Jews of the time; the hipocrisy of them, how they fast, how they prayed it the purpose of making an appearance to everyone around. The temple of his father full of commerce and not adoration and insight, a thing not for the position of a servant of the god, as jews were.

He was going to the serpent dew to save the lost sheep of Israel by speaking the word of guidance, by healing the bite it the hand, and by walking to one place to the other to the rescue of a great number of sheep.

And this was the sacrifice for our sins. Not a mere and only ritual for your sins in the future by blind belief as Paul said but by THIS FAITH. To make use of the repentance preached by John the baptism and Christ to admit guilt and to be guilty is to ask forgiveness and never commit to not be guilty again. This is the justification it weigh for the analyses of your sins in the day of judgement.

Don't conform it sinning, accepting that every one sins, this is the alcohol of Paul. Achieve the virtue of Job: Then the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil. And he still maintains his integrity, though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason.

Meditate on these words: Nail on the feet, nail on the hand. What is his feet and what is his hand ? Vinegar on the mouth, souring the mouth. What is his mouth ? Cross on the back, guilt impose on the back. Will you carry the same imposed guilt ? What was the guilt ? Paul maked the echo of Jesus different than it was.

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Daily reminder America is the modern day Babylon and god will punish it for its crimes such as allowing and promoting faggotry and abortions.

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This was an /r/atheism meetup. Tell me honestly bros, would a /christian/ meetup look any different?

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Planned Parenthood Protesters Brag About Their Abortions

Lord, have mercy on us. We need more Christians in the comments explaining why murdering children is horrible (just think about that for a minute, we actually need to spend a good amount of effort to convince women and men that taking the life of their child is a heinous act)

"To unbelievers, earth is the closest we could get to Heaven. To Christians, the earth is the closest we could get to Hell."

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Convert feels

>Be the only convert in a family

>Mother and father are divorced

>Father is about to die from cancer and is drugged up on medications that impairs his ability to reason

>Is unresponsive to anything I have to say about religion

>Mother is very lukewarm about religious things but thinks ghosts exists and that universalism would be nice as a concept

This pain is something I could never prepare myself for. They've always loved me first and foremost did things like baptize me when I was a kid. Could that be a plus in Gods eyes? The thought of their souls going to hell for eternity in exchange for me living as a decent Christian feels so disturbing.

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Prayer books and the daily prayer rule

Hey there everyone, Cathodox inquirer Anon here, I'm still an inquirer for now and fairly new to Christianity as a whole, I grew up in a non-practicing Christian family so I knew no prayers by heart when I started my journey. Initially I tried constructing a daily prayer rule of my own consisting of morning and evening prayers, that was troublesome because finding translations is hard for most of them (I would prefer to pray in my native language) but more importantly, it was a lot to memorize, I always ended up botching several ones in many places when I tried carry out my daily prayers and ultimately I ended up focusing more on my notes than on the prayers themselves.

So I picked up a prayer book recently for private usage, I went through my first daily prayer routine as slow and focused as I could, followed it best I could, tried to say the words on the pages as if they were my own, overall my morning routine took me 30 minutes which I feel is perfect, I do my best to put my heart into the words as if they were my own but I'm concerned…

We're talking of praying privately and from heart, but for now I only know the Our Father and the Jesus Prayer from heart, so I rely a lot on this prayer book, it just feels wrong but at the same time I think it's the best I can do for now.

What should I do to address this, just pray by the book's daily prayer rule or try to memorize it all?

How do you manage your private prayers /christian/? Do you rely on a prayer book, have a personal daily prayer rule that is well put together and you also know it by heart, maybe something else?

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Too weak for Catholicism

I want to be a Catholic, but I'm too weak and evil. Looking at the entirety of history, religion and philosophy, everything leads to Catholicism. Catholicism is beautiful and true on a cosmic scale, the good of Christ, Mary and the saints are real and eternal. I wish I could find a place in this grand narrative, I wish I could fulfill my obligation, from which I exist for. I can't do it though, I keep failing, I also love sin, and I feel comfortable self loathing. I don't want to suffer.

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Are you with the Chair of Peter?

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Tattoo regret

When I was young I got a tattoo on my shoulder.

I'm Polish and saw the rune often growing up, turns out it is a thundermark and is associated with Perun.

Should I cover it up or will God forgive me for having this on me? I don't want to get it covered up because the act of getting tattooed I realize now is Satanic but I don't like having it on me.

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Catholic Inquisition Torture

Was it justified or sheer cruelty, greed and Catholic terror? Aren't all men created in the image and likeness of God, so that disfiguring and mutilating any man's body is akin to disfiguring His image?

I don't see the theological justification behind the inquisition by torture, in fact even contemporaries remarked that it didn't produce truthful confessions, yet the Catholic Church continued undeterred:

>However, Nicholas Eymerich, the inquisitor who wrote the "Directorium Inquisitorum", stated: 'Quaestiones sunt fallaces et ineficaces' ("interrogations via torture are misleading and futile"). By 1256 inquisitors were given absolution if they used instruments of torture.[20]

The torture would've knowingly led to false confessions, costing the accused their lives, reputation and property at the benefit of someone else:

>Like Torquemada, Deza was accused of being overzealous in his work, and of showing excessive cruelty – his reputation was sufficient that in 1507, the Pope was forced to publicly request moderation. Accusations were also made that Deza used his position to enrich himself, confiscating the wealth of accused heretics for himself. A complaint about Deza, made to the royal secretary by Captain Gonzalo de Ayora (Ayora being a valuable Valencia town with numerous "moriscos" since before the 13th century), said that Deza and his lieutenants "have no regard either for God or for justice; they kill, steal, and dishonor girls and women to the disgrace of the Christian religion."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Deza

To me this seems like a grave sin for all those involved, especially the Catholic Church itself.

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God is real.

Jesus was right.

The bible has been mistranslated

and most denominations are using

God's name in vain.

>Liars, Hippocrates, False Teachers and atheistic "Life Coaches" are leading their congregations to proverbial hell.

There are currently signs and wonders happening every single day.

There are great profits in these modern times.

The end really is near.

What the actual winnie the pooh

are all of you doing

about the division of

the Christian denominations?

>The bible does not restrict the use of common colloquialisms you legalistic shit-lords…

REPENT AND BE SAVED!

>Choose the cold path or choose the hot; the Kingdom of heaven will spit you out if you are luke-warm.

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Parable of Barabbas

I was thinking about the parable of Barabbas. Even though Barabbas was a criminal by man's law, the people forgave him and voted for him to be set free, as so it was done. The voice of the public had preeminence over what was written in the law books.

What if our laws were amended to allow the kind of judicial forgiveness by popular vote as in the parable of Barabbas? It would allow for guilty people to be set free if enough of the public (lets say 20,000 people) deemed that the criminal's lawbreaking was justified and that they shouldn't be incarcerated. 'Criminals' such as Julian Assange would benefit.

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The Athanasius of our time

He will be beatified within 20 years.

ROME

WILL

RETURN

TO

TRADITION

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Reading Psalms

Hello /christian/, i am currently on a 3 month plan on finishing the whole bible, right now im at the book of psalms and reading it really feels like a slog, i feel that this shouldnt be read through once and just go to the next passage

what do you guys think? should i just skip this and proverbs and read it after i finished with the other books?

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I think I'm losing my faith

I know that god is real, but I can feel that I don't believe it as much. Like an agnostic.

How can I fully believe again?

Pic unrelated

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Church Architecture Thread

Post some AESTHETIC looking churches and share idea on proper church construction and design.

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Tsar Nicholas II

should the tsar and his family have been venerated as saints? personally I see nothing wrong with it but the decision spawned quite a bit of controversy with the russian church. do you see them as saints or at least passion-bearers?

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I'm upper class and could be considered rich in my country. I'm also a Christian. In the Bible it says that for the rich it's impossible to enter the kingdom of heaven. Do I need to sell everything and become a homeless man to go to heaven?

Mark 10:

>21 Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

>22 At this the man’s face fell. He went away sad, because he had great wealth.

>23 Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!”

>24 The disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus said again, “Children, how hard it is[e] to enter the kingdom of God! 25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

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Why should I become an Orthodox Christian?

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As a /christian/ I support the #SexStrike and so should you.

So I'm sure many of you are not aware of this which is good as you have better things to do anyway, but literal Soros shill, Alyssa Milano, had called for a #SexStrike until all the anti-abortion bills stop. As a proud Catholic christanon, we should 100% support this. Obviously the abortion part is abhorrent and in no way am I supporting abortion. I am supporting these femenazis' decision to not have sex. Not only is it a sin to fornicate it is destroying the family unit.

Besides, the less these far-left fascists procreate the better off normal society will be.

So to all sane and normal christians out there. I encourage you all to support the femenazis and their soy boi henchmen in their absolutely stunning and brave choice to never have sex again.

#SexStrike

Relevant media links for more context:

https://www.rt.com/usa/459076-sex-strike-georgia-abortion-bills/

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/alyssa-milano-calls-sex-strike-ignites-social-media-202438456.html

https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/11/alyssa-milano-sex-strike-jessica-valenti/

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Out of all of the cultures, and through all of times, why do you think God chose specifically to work his plan of salvation through the Israelite people? Has there been any books or theories about this?

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ITT: post the greatest Christian rulers in history.

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Got baptized with the Holy Spirit, now what?

One and half year ago, shortly after my conversion, I asked the Father go give me the Holy Spirit as of Luke 11:13. I didn't think much about it, it sounded as the next logical step after inviting Jesus Christ into my life and accepting Him as my Lord and savior.

I just realized I received the Holy Spirit since the Holy Week. It manifested as permant divine presence inside me, which can be sensed the whole day. At about the same time I got healed from porn addiction and masturbation over night, without putting any effort into it.

It still haven't been baptized with water. What do?

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I don't know if I believe any more.

What do I do?

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People that pray the rosary daily (or just often) - how do you find enough stuff to think about? I heard that you're supposed to contemplate the mysteries as you pray the decades, but at this point I've prayed it so many times times and thought every mystery through to the best of my ability, that now I can barely contemplate anything. I had a lot of good contemplations that changed my life, but now I struggle to think of anything that I haven't already thought and I don't know if I should really keep praying the rosary if I just recite the prayers without much meditation.

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Is receiving the Eucharist necessary for salvation?

I was having a conversation with protestant friend of mine over 1 Corinthians chapter 11 which led back to a discussion of Christ saying "Do this in remembrance of me." Now I was attempting to argue that partaking of the Eucharist was necessary, but he was going the symbolic route. So is partaking the Eucharist necessary?

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BR CASEY GETS HIS FIRST ASSIGNMENT AS A PRIEST

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I’ll ask this bluntly: How can Jews be faulted for their rejection of Christ’s messiah claim given that the single most important messianic prophecy (Isaiah 2:4) remains unfulfilled?

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Priesthood vs Self

Hello Christanons,

I'm a 20 year old Catholic who is discerning priesthood. My discernment has only lasted for a couple of months in any serious fashion, though I was attracted to the idea prior to then. I really want to serve the Church with my life, due in part to the fact that I think it'd be fulfilling for me to be able to spend my life managing and assisting a local community of parishioners and locals in their own struggles, as well as a personal revelation I believe I received in response to my prayer for how to achieve holiness.

In opposition to that though, I have a few issues that I've come upon in my own person that I don't either know or have a good reason to "fix". Those reasons are as follows:

1. I recently attempted to date a women just so that I could clear the idea of marriage from my list of potential vocations.As I predicted, it didn't pan out, but we're still best friends. After a short time, I have attempted to put that thought behind me, but part of my mind and heart clings to that irrational hope.

2. Other than this, I tend to have sociopathic tendencies and easily and frequently suppress my own emotions and have limited reactions to the emotions of others. I began doing this as a self-defense mechanism and it's become a part of my daily instinctual living pattern.

3. I'm a cynical person in regards to the world at large and its interactions with me. I'm very optimistic when the objects in questions are two independent parties, but as soon as I become an object in the discussion, my perception shifts to pessimism and brooding. This viewpoint of mine as, by and large, been accurate to reality for the majority of my life and as such, I feel no reason to alter that part of myself.

Considering these three things, not to mention my own habitual sins which I'm sure we're all familiar with, is it still worth striving for the priesthood, or have I fallen victim to wishful thinking?

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Sorry if the question doesn't belong here. I just wanted to ask you something.

I'm half german and half turkish. I live in germany and was raised with Islam.

My mother (the german) hates western culture and loves the muslim one. She converted to Islam, and raised us (me and my sister) this way. My father is of course also a muslim.

I never gave interest in religion, but when I was 14 I started to read the Koran in the german version. It didn't make any sence, and I then watched a lot videos and films about Islam and readed about it. When I was 15 I didn't believe in Islam, and even started to hating it. I became agnostic.

When I was 16 I got interested in Christianity and readed a lot about it. I started to reading the Bible and I knew from then, that Christianity is true.

I'm 17 now, and I know that my parents would never accept that I would become a Christian. My plan is that I wait until I'm 18 and then convert. If it gets really bad, I'm moving out.

Do you think this is a good plan? I really don't want that my family hates me or is sad about me or other bad things.

Do you know a better idea?

Sorry for the bad english.

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The Trinity and the Filioque Refutes Eastern "Orthodoxy"

Buckle in and get comfy for a 2 hour long sermon from the Dimond Brothers about how Eastern Orthodoxy is heresy.

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/christian/ cooking

What does /christian/ like to cook? Do you cook anything special for christian holidays?

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How do you deal with Christians like this, /christian/?

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Everyone is a sinner.

I'm not saying sin should be encouraged. It absolutely shouldn't. But the Bible says, in Matthew 7:1-2, "[1] Judge not, that ye be not judged.

[2] For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." We've all sinned. That's why Christ died on the cross, as a sacrifice for sin.

Why judge others because they sin differently than you?

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>during the Arian controversy a large majority of bishops were Arians

>however there was never a bishop of Rome who was an Arian

really makes you think

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Explain the trinity.

When I say 'explain', I mean actually explain it. No analogies, no parables, no sophistry. Actually explain how it can work.

Pic not related, I hope.

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Favourite Bible passages

>39 And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us.

>40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?

>41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.

>42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

>43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.

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Are some of you ex-muslims? If so, how did you noticed that christianity is the true religion?

Pic unrelated

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The Pope of the Roman Patriarchate

How possible do you think is for the Orthodox-Catholic churches to unite and the Roman church to become one of the Pentarchy again, with all the honours and privileges it had before the schism?

I was looking at some videos and i realise that the Popes are already acting as one of the Patriarchs, maybe first among equals but still. The hegemonic attitude of the past is long gone. No more submit to Rome claims (irl not /christian/ LARP). A lot of theological dialogues and joint statements on dogmatical issues and misunderstandings have already been made.

How do you Cathos and Orthos feel about that?

Vid related: Pope Francis kisses the hand of the Orthodox Patriarch. Something that i believe was unthinkable only one century ago.

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Is there a sect of Christendom I can join that will allow me to eat bacon every day of the week and let me to dance when I want to? Preferably one that doesn't abide modern globohomo degeneracy.

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Regulars Rise Up

Share the posters you notice here:

>The catholic that always says "pastor jim" as his stereotype of a protestant

>The guy who coined his own term "bible idolatry"

>ID 1c98e6 who's a mod apologist in the meta thread

>The orthoLARPer who adds a completely unrelated icon to all his replies

>The guy who plugs the other board whenever someone is upset with a deletion here (always gets deleted)

>The New IFB false-flagger who makes fun-posts parodying the Anderson cult (and people fall for it)

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I'm not looking for debate. I just need an answer. Why did God create evil? Couldn't he create a world with free will that was free of evil?

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Is English the new Latin? Because the KJV is the most influential Bible ever like the Vulgate was back in its day. English speaking Christians still pray in Early Modern English. Is English a divinely inspired language?

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I went to my first Sunday mass after 16 years of being an apostate

Hello /christian/ after many years of being an agnostic I have finally come to the realisation of the existance of Our Lord, after many deliberations I went to a parish in the old town of our city, the experience was near breathtaking, I am a /pol/tard but I never bought into paganism nor any other heresy. Now I cant wait to do a confession since I feel I have to repent for those many years. I just want to say thank you and thank my brothers for easing my way to the faith

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The pope gives $6.66 to each catholic invader trying to breah America's borders

500,000/75,000=6.66

This is a great example of why the Jesuits have been kicked out of 88 countries in history. Francis, the jesuit, is now funding an invasion of America. It's also another one of the pope's blatant hints that he's the false prophet of the book of revelations. I don't know how Catholics can still be blind to the evils of their church

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Thinking about converting to Christianity

So I've been thinking about converting to Christianity recently, and I'm torn between the different branches, protestant seems to follow the Bible, but the Bible wasn't written till after the life of Jesus, so why choose between the Orthodox and Catholic church? Protestantism would also be nice but I'm so confused…

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I don’t feel anything in church.

I’ve tried going to a variety of churches under different denominations in different states. I’ve tried watching live streams of churches away from me. I don’t feel much of anything at church.

I sometimes feel depressed by this.

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Greek Catholic

Sorry for the dumb question. I just found out that there is a greek catholic church. Is this just the normal catholic church, just in greece?

And there is also an ukranian greek catholic church. What about that?

Pic unrelated

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Is this University dorm's architecture evil ?

This is in Lausanne, Switzerland. This "dorm" will welcome athletes for 2020 Olympics and then, it will welcome students who will study at the university.

Looking from it, it typically looks like the post-modernist Bolshevik architecture you would find pretty mcuh everywhere.

But this circular "Colosseum" structure also makes me think of the Tower of Babel and I can't help to think this is some kind of satanic mockery of God and of the Bible, especially since the tower of Babel is a very grave sin. Also, the (((EU))) building is constructed to look like the Tower of Babel.

Why can't we just have Christian traditional retro-Gothic architecture? All those post modern things are very tiresome.

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Just stumbled upon Dr. Brown's videos. He is a Messianic Jew, but he annihilates Jewish arguments. Reminds me of Christian Prince against Muslims, since they both know their opponents game plans so well.

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Is it Ok to go to SSPX church?

Closest Catholic Church to me is run by SSPX but wiki says that they 'Canonically irregular, but having partial recognition by Rome' what does partial recognition mean? Would it be heresy or bad to attend Mass there??

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The Holy Trinity, Mary and polytheism

I'm sure this has been asked before, probably many times in fact but just help me someone please, or at least direct me to a good source from an early Christian preferably who explains it well, it makes me feel like a brainlet.

Christianity often gets accused of polytheism, especially by Muslims, while I do understand that's not the case I almost feel like I can't really explain in solid terms as to why that is the case, it's three different persons of the same essence that make up God to my understanding, but many times we make sure to worship all three persons, just something as simple as crossing oneself is a sign of worship of all three persons at the same time innit?

So how is it not polytheism then when it's worshipping three seperate and different entities in their own right who can act independently of one another? And how does Mary fit into all of this, we ask her to intercede yes, but there's entire prayers dedicated to her and we ask for salvation from her, just feels borderline polytheism again, and while I know that's not the case I can't really put into words as to why that's not the case.

I also encountered the notion that the Holy Trinity is an invented concept deriving from theologians after the 1st century AD, and it has been made dogma in the 4th century basically, but it isn't directly mentioned, referred or even acknowledged in the Bible directly at least, despite being a very core and key rarely doubted concept, so what is the Biblical basis for it that would debunk the notion that it's a false doctrine that was invented later on?

Thank you beforehand for anyone willing to take their time to answer.

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Did God perhaps use Islam to be a judgment on the Byzantines? I do not mean to say that Islam is somehow divinely inspired, but rather that God caused its rise or at least allowed it to serve his purpose of judging the Byzantines as he used the Assyrians and Babylonians to winnie the pooh up Israel. Notice how Islam was never able to ever penetrate deep into Europe, even despite all the odds at Tours and Vienna, Europe was always saved from Islamic threat. Iberia was maybe the worst casualty but that was reconquested and all the Muslims and Jews kicked out. Then Spain and Portugal went on to bring Christianity to the Americas and India. Yet Constantinople and the whole Byzantine Empire got raped by Islamic invaders and renamed Istanbul. Perhaps Islam is still around now to serve as a judgement against the modern day west and all its degeneracy lately.

I know this is all speculative and I cannot know the mind of God, but is this the most likely reason Islam exists?

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Does /christian/ take the old testament literally or do you interpret the meaning of stories?

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How do you reconcile your faith with the diversity of belief in human history? What about indigenous belief lile shinto, animism, bon and the like that are opposite of the abrahamic monotheistic paradigm? How come the natural faith of man isn't something closer to christianity? I know greek philosopher got close and I know we can deduce the existence of God from nature but this always seemed weird to me. Christian faith makes a lot of sense but it relies a lot on revelation that was limited to the vast majority of humanity for the vast majority of history, even if we assume young earth. Should we adopt a zeitgeist view of all religion pointing the same thing? I see a lot of christian philosophy in the tao te ching for exemple.

So to wrap this up, how did you come to term with this? Any source or books?

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Blessed Mary

In Sacred Scripture, the relationship between God and the individual soul, and between God and his people, is often enough presented in terms of espousal and marriage. We see this in the prophets and in the psalms and, of course, in the Wisdom literature, especially the Song of Songs. So it is not surprising that in the case of Our Lady, who, quite literally, became the mother of God made man, she is in a certain sense the spouse of the Holy Spirit by whose creative power she became a virgin mother.

Thus it is that some spiritual writers use the expression “spouse of the Holy Spirit.” This expression is entirely in line with the description of the Holy Spirit’s relationship with her in St. Luke’s Gospel.

>If you have impure thoughts about Mary you're literally leering at God's bride.

Don't do it christbros.

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Help. Need advice. Any advice.

This is a very common tale but please hear me out.

My mother in the past 6 years has had immense misfortune when it comes to her health. First it began with chronic pain from a back injury, then she got a deadly bacterial infection in a wound on her foot which lead to her amputating her left leg, and from the bacterial infection she got kidney failure and had to sit through dialysis three times a week. Every month getting weaker and wheelchair bound. Her muscles gradually atrophies and energy getting drained from her. Not anything noteworthy in this modern medical industry we have.

A few days ago, when I came to visit her I found her slouching on the floor having bad motor skills and trouble speaking with a bump on her head. Turns out she fell somehow early in the morning and now had essentially he left side almost paralyzed. Called the ambulance had her rushed to the emergency room. They scanned her brain and sure enough she had a massive stroke. It was just so sudden and seemingly cruel. If I did not have faith in God already then this could have been the moment I would have turned my back on Him out of frustration and rage.

Turns out that years of hardships and hospital visits takes their toll and my mother decided to cease all life supporting treatments just today. Her will to live was broken with the additional handicaps she sustained. How long she has left is still unknown, could be a week or two weeks.

And here is the real regret: She is not Christian and had always lived as a secular agnostic, even my own faith is fresh and I am the only one in my family to even have any religious beliefs. I just don't know what to do. I fear for her soul and I don't want to be the cause of her rejecting Jesus by being pushy nor do I want to be slothful and lukewarm about it. I feel so very trapped and my time is limited so please excuse the rambling tone of my post. She also won't be able to attend any church or RCIA for obvious reasons. Not even sure what I should pray for at this point. Sorry for the blogpost but I just want to vent.

TL;DR: How do you save a very sick and injured person?

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What version of the Bible should I read? At a loss here. Is the Open English Bible good?

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HELL

i still don't understand hell. god judges you based on whether or not you believed something and if you didn't believe that thing you sentenced to the most agonizing thing ever conceived by an all powerful entity. why is believing something so important. why not any other criteria. furthermore was is punishment infinite, if i was wrong i was wrong, i am sorry i didn't know you made me small and ignorant. so many people who were loved and tried their best in life (of course falling below the mark) are currently facing an agony that will never end. their is a perpetual atrocity occurring under the earth that will never end.

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Euphemisms for Confession

I thought this thread would be useful for many anons that haven't gone to Confession in a while to start Holy week with the right foot

Lets see if we can get the mods to allow other languages as well

Masturbation => Impure/Obscene acts

Watching pornography => I have watched obscenities

Bestiality & other abominations => I've been sexually immoral

Fornication => I have failed to keep chaste

Sacrilege => I have been irreverent to vehicles of worship

Cross-dressing => ?

Drunkenness => I failed to drink in moderation

Violence => I have harmed anthers body

Can someone think of a euphemism for "rubbing yourself against a girl" in Spanish, thanks

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Paintings/Art

Post here splendid paintings, lavish cathedrals or whatever that can be encompassed into christian art.

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Christian Adoption Agency Bowing To The Poz

Homosexuals more likely to molest kids, study reports

(Wednesday, May 30, 2001 (17 years ago))

http://www.bpnews.net/11002/homosexuals-more-likely-to-molest-kids-study-reports

Christian adoption agency reverses policy, will place kids with ‘LGBT’ couples

(Wed Apr 24, 2019 - 10:12 am EST (2 days ago))

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/michigan-christian-adoption-agency-flips-will-place-children-in-lgbt-homes

This group is complying with an unjust law placing children into the hands of degenerates who most likely were molested themselves as children (that's how most people end up homosexual, being molested as a child) and will molest these kids.

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HOLY FIRE 2019

Watch the miracle here

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Weed is fully legalized in my state for full recreational use of adults 21+. I am above 21. Is it still a sin if I smoke a little bit?

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Voltaire once wrote to the King of Prussia urging him to abolish Christianity in his domains, saying that it “is assuredly the most ridiculous, the most absurd, and the most bloody religion which has ever infected the world. Your Majesty will do the human race an eternal service by eliminating this infamous superstition… My one regret in dying is that I cannot aid you in this noble enterprise, the finest and most respectable which the human mind can inspire.”

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Convalidation

Hi /christian/, lurker/newfig here. Normally I would lurk longer, but I’m in a crisis and have no one else to ask. I was raised Catholic, left the Church after high school and and returned last year after 12 years away. I am civilly married (3 years married, 10 years living together). We are trying to get a convalidation BUT

>priest is fresh out of seminary and has no clue what he’s doing

>convalidation has a 6-month wait like a regular wedding

>$700 in various fees for classes, stipends, etc which I can barely afford

>priest has not even planned the classes we need to take for the convalidation

>call the local archdioceses for guidance on convalidation requirements

>weeks of phone tag, no help

>btw they lost my original baptism certificate, making the paperwork that much harder

>parish office never returns my calls for scheduling the convalidation

>finally get one scheduled for August, making a total of 8 months wait for us

>whole ordeal drove my wife away from attending Mass, even though she’s still willing to do the convalidation

Meanwhile

>can’t have sex with the woman I have loved for a decade

>can’t temporarily move away from her due to finances

>denied absolution for not moving away from her while we do marriage prep

>can’t go to communion due to ‘living in sin’

>no advise from the priest on how to handle any of this, he just keeps making it harder

>parish is self-absorbed, no one bothers with newcomers. I’ve made no friends there despite attending for 6 months

What I expected was a couple months of marriage prep and a quick convalidation ceremony so I can be a real Catholic again. Instead I’m in a catch-22 where I can’t receive communion or absolution until we are sacramentally married, but that gets more and more complicated. Some days I want to quit altogether. Are they trying to break up my relationship? Is this a sign I shouldn't get married? The only think getting me through is daily Rosaries and pure determination, but that’s running out fast. Have any of you dealt with the convalidation process? Is it always this complicated?

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Friendly reminder most of tranny propaganda, junkie culture and feminist filth we see today can traced back to the church of Satan in the 1960s.

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I cannot stand the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom.

It is awkward. It is cringe. It doesn't "draw your mind to God" at all.

The Orthodox Church is making a big mistake by forcing the Byzantine Rite down Yank's throats. It will largely stay an ethnic club like this.

Call me a faggot, I don't care. Just tell me why I'm wrong. Make it a good reason, too.

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The Invasive Species Act could cover Islam.

#ProveMeWrong

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CS Lewis

What is Christian's oppinion on CS Lewis? I've recently started reading the Problem of Pain and want to know if hes good, and any possible problems with his theology