Mission Statement
I know we're not the majority on 4chan, 8chan, or anywhere, but I know we exist.All of us who were born again from 4chan culture, whether from /v/, /pol/, /int/, or wherever. We made it, and found what we were looking from from those places.
This board is for things related to Christianity, like fellowship, prayer requests, etc. Questions by non-believers are welcome but obvious trolling is not welcome.
God bless you all.
Rules and Guidelines
Guidelines
1. Christians who follow the Nicene Creed are all welcome.
2. Non-believers who are interested in Christianity are welcome, but this isn't a Christian/Atheist debate club.
3. Try to be civil.
Rules
1. Entirely SFW
2. Obvious trolling is deleted and will result in a ban, but you are welcome to come back if you want to make constructive posts.
I am personally a Baptist, and will defend my views as a poster, but dialogue and points made from other perspectives won't be deleted.
"Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen."
God bless you all.
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Fear of Eternity
Hey /christian/. I've recently been having a reoccurring thought, and that thought has been haunting me: the concept of eternity.
Somehow the idea of never-ending life troubles me greatly, even if I did manage to get to Heaven. The idea that eternity in Heaven would be monotony without end for the rest of existence. It almost sickens me. Granted, I definitely don't want to go to Hell, and neither does the concept of non-existence (something that scares me more than eternity of monotony is an eternity of nothing). I'm not sure what to do, and I've been losing sleep because this thought has been keeping me awake at night.
Am I the only one who has this fear? Any advice on how to cope? I'm honestly scared.
Who is Oriented after Brussels today?
Christiany and Wars
So, I was having this discution with about religion and war.
He claims that religions are used as tool to promote wars and how it ultimaltly causes violence.
He used the crussades as an ultimate example
So, I was wondering.
How many wars, in general, have the religion as a excuse?
How many of said wars had Christianity as a reason?
Any good books about the crusades and its reasons?
Will there ever be a science of God?
A way for people to empirically analyze and maybe communicate with God using the power of science?
Why The Negro is Going To Hell
In this video,
Shawn James a black man explains the spiritual problems that arise from the preoccupation of some black men with the 'skin color' of God.
Bible thread about things nessesary to be saved!
No church doctine, but only qoutes form the bible.
Purpose?
what good is it to us if we dont meet the minimum requirements.
Faith brings us into salvation, works keep uns there.
pandering too SJW"s who hate Catholicism
What the logic of this?
AHA
AHA AHA AHA
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/pope-wash-feet-refugees-1st-application-law-37836504
Why did the Romans take their sweet-ass time escorting Jesus and his cross to Golgotha? Why didn't they just crucify him in the middle of town and get on with the rest of their day?
-God created us to glorify Him
-God knew Adam and Eve would sin
-God knew exactly that the without-paradise era would have to happen in order for us to glorify Him
-God knowing this, still didn't kill us off.
-Us glorifying Him meant more to Him than our salvation, even though going without salvation was a place of utter hell.
and
-God creates stipulation
-we need Him to be saved
-He gives his life for us so we can, but he's the one who created the stipulation that we need him
Knowing these things, how can one believe in God's love?
Race and scripture
My bible study is talking about race next week. Different races are clearly biologically different, how does the Bible explain this when supposedly all are equal? I feel like I'll be ostracized if I even dare to say all races aren't the same just with different amounts of melanin. Any advice and sciprute on this topic?
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.
What does this mean? That God is a male or a female? Is "the image of God" actually how we physically look like humans? Or is it our consciousness?
Ben Hur (2016) Trailer
Didn't realize this movie was about Jesus, and apparently another remake is coming out soon.
So Ben Hur thread?
How do these pictures make you feel?
Animosity toward protestantism
Why is Protestantism disliked so much on this board?
I find offence with christian hypocry.
Many of you faggots complain when messianic jews keep and practice their traditions. You say the ritual law is gone, we only have the moral law.
But if you take offence at them for celebrating jewish feasts, why do you celebrate your Christian feasts?
No where in the bible is a commandment that says we are to celebrate christian feasts.
If the ritual law has indeed perished than there is no law commanding us to celebrate any feast nore any rules that say how to celebrate it.
Jewish feasts are just as legal a christian feasts in this point.
Because consider Jesus died on passover and not on the feast of easter. Pentacost is not just some fictitious day but the feast of Shavuot.
Marching to Zion
So I'm sure most of you have seen Marching to Zion, and if not here's the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=styLx-iWwC8
Are there any doctrinal issues with this movie? It seems pretty sound but I don't know enough to know for sure. I want to talk to other Christians in my church about this and want to know what kind of arguments they would bring up against it. Thank you for your help.
How can one support the Orthodox?
When they are clearly lapdogs of the leaders in their Church?
>Kirill described the Putin era as "a miracle of God" and criticised his opponents. He said that those who were demonstrating for democratic reform and the rule of law were emitting "ear piercing shrieks"[35]
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarch_Kirill_of_Moscow#Relations_with_the_State
How can one justify (and worse, openly support) the sins of the Putin regime? How does a religious leader allow this to happen?
Catholics send food aid to devastated Ukraine, and Orthodox pull shit off like (pic related)
The Orthodox are nationalist abominations, from Constantinople to Egypt.
is self pleasure the sin or the thoughts and the porn associated with it? or both?
Quick Request
Does anybody have an image which lists all of the recommended or must-read works concerning Christianity, Metaphysics, Apologetics, etc? I used to have an image saved which had Dostoyevsky and C.S. Lewis on it and stuff like that, but now I can't find it anymore.
I was also wondering if there was something similar for movies, too, like The Passion of The Christ.
Righteous Anger thread
Why do so many churches teaches anger is bad when Jesus himself displayed righteous anger?
I've Had a Dream
I want to tell you a dream I had, first I have to tell you that I rarely have dream, almost never, I had this dream in december near the new year.
I saw Obama with a baby, and in the dream I knew that he had a plan in his heart, something significant. A voice said to me, Obama means give light, bring light something along those lines. I saw three beams, like beams of steel, but in the dream I knew each beam somehow meant a measure of time and somehow I knew "we" were at the second beam, then another voice asked him: "Why not execute the plan now?" Then he said: Not now, on the third beam, only then. Then I woke up.
At first I thought this was about my personal life, because, first I'm not American, and dreams I had were fulfilled only on my personal life. Recently I was bored and searched for revelations about Obama on YouTube, and to my surprise there are tons and tons of such videos.
What's the interpretation? Ideas?
Tumblr and the Gospel
Here's a hypothetical scenario, though it could and likely will come to be more relevant in the near future. Say a fully-transitioned, easily-passing transgender person accepts Christ and repents of their sins. Would the best course of action for them, in your opinion, to be to 1) attempt to un-transition themselves to their original sex, and all the messy biological trouble that entails, 2) maintain their current gender, but commit to live in modesty and chastity, or 3) take on all the privileges a normal person of that sex/gender would enjoy, including marriage and sex? I'd say #2.
Pic related is David Weekly, a Methodist minister who was born female.
This is what Christians actually believe
>the majority of Christians actually believe that the Jumpers of 9/11 are all burning in Hell specifically for their 'sin' of having jumped rather than let themselves be roasted to death
There's actually been highly-religious Christian families of the victims who have declined investigation of the remains that could have been their loved ones out of fear that they were Jumpers and the idea of their loved one's last actions being a 'sin' is traumatizing.
What's the story with the genealogies in Matthew and Luke?
If critical consensus is right, and they're not historical, does that mean that Jesus isn't the Messiah?
I don't even know what to title this thread, here it goes.
Alright, so I have been having troubles in my faith lately. I started smoking weed again, started fapping again, stopped praying so hard, and have been somewhat losing my morals. I was at first kind of going protestant, then kind of going stoic, then cynic, then Nietzsche, now kind of occult. It was kind of a downward spiral, all connected to each other.
let me explain it all the best I can because it is kind of confusing. First I started smoking weed again, and wanted to try to get away with it and not go to confession because I like my priest and he seems disappointed when i confess drugs and stuff to him. So, I started getting into protestantism, and ended up going to a nondenominational church near me because it was the only (somewhat)sane protestant church I could walk to. So, after that and realizing what a joke the sing songy worship stuff was, and seeing the pope betray Europe, I started to dislike Christianity. I wanted to keep strong morals, even though I was smoking weed and now fapping a lot more, and I went to European philosophy. Stoicism appealed to me, and I tried to follow it a bit but always ended up giving in when I was tempted to fap or a friend offered me weed. Then I went to cynicism because I didn't understand cynicism because no one really understands cynicism but I found it appealing because diogenes was a smart guy. Then, after seeing the pope do more backstabbing with Trump and Europe, I got even more angry at Christianity for being one of the leading forces in flooding white countries with nonwhites, and also wanted more morality but wanted to be more alpha so I took a liking to Nietzsche. I actually was a little less degenerate at this time and went on tiny nofap streaks and somewhat avoided smoking/drinking because Nietzsche was against these things. I eventually just ended up giving in to my desires and kind of abondoning philosophy and religion for maybe a few weeks, but ended up having a panic attack at a party after smoking weed for the first time after seeing a dead guy in the forest, a story I posted on r9k about if you want to read more about it, and then coped with anime and jacking off, but eventually wised up and realized I need to quit the degeneracy and start getting back to being a strong white male with good morals and healthy spirituality. So, I have now been on a nofap streak(I should say I haven't orgasmed) for the past couple of days and have told my friends I won't be smoking weed anymore, and to get on the spirituality side of things I started browsing /fringe/. Now, /fringe/ is kind of scary and the although I think that magic is probably real I am skeptical of whether it is good or not, and although I am pissed at the pope and protestantism as well, I got a book from my grandpa a few days ago in the mail that is titled "Rediscovering Jesus", from a Catholic bookshop I think, with a bookmark on a chapter about purity, which I have obviously been struggling a great deal with. Now I am as confused as ever and have been reading a chapter of the book a day, but also looking into the occult and reading "Fringe Knowledge for Beginners" by Montalk. I made a thread about christianity on fringe a while ago and revisited it and a lot of people talked about gnostic Christianity, kind of a blend between /fringe/ and Christianity, and although I knew what gnosticism was before now I am actually thinking it may be the way for me to go. I need some guidance and I don't know why I am posting here because I don't think I entirely believe in Christianity after all the stuff that I went through and I am definitely still mad at most major Christian denominations for importing all the muds to our countries but I typed this up because I am involved in this community and have been here since day one and think you guys just may be able to guide me and help me and lead me in some sort of right direction. Also, I am hoping you teach me the truth about magic and the occult, if it is all evil or maybe good, and if gnosticism is good. Please, I just don't know what to do and need help, and even though I think I am mad at Christianity right now I feel like it is one of the only good things that I can trust in. Please help me guys.
Sorry if this seems lengthy and maybe doesn't make a lot of sense, I started typing not really knowing what to say and this just kind of came out.
MEME MAGIC
What /christian/ opinion MEME Magic? Is it just a in joke on the internet people take seriously or did it morphed into a MEME worshipping modern day Cthulhu cult?
What's your favorite story from the Bible, /christian/?
How was Mass?
How was Mass?
(I'm posting this since the other topic keeps 404ing for some reason)
A Crisis of Faith
I need help, /christian/. This post isn't meant to be self-indulgent or flippant, so I really hope some anons will read it and try to understand my situation.
It all started a couple of weeks ago when I simply got "bored" and began regularly pondering the nature of death and the prospect of a literal eternity within the Kingdom of God. After that, I developed an enormous appetite for philosophical and archaeological works and treatises concerning the possibility of a human soul, as well as even the existence of Jesus Christ in human history. It first started with Descartes and Augustine, but then devolved into scavenging scraps from shitposts and Youtube comments in search of "The Truth."
Needless to say, the search seemed more and more pointless as it went on. These past two weeks have begun to chip away at a foundation of faith which I previously had thought unshakable, and now I am so consumed with uncertainty, fear, and despondency that I might as well be dead.
Ever since then, food lost its flavour. Sleep is not restful anymore, and it feels like there's a hole in my chest. I can't even look my parents in the eye anymore because doing so makes me think of the prospect I'm absolutely never going to see them again once everything is said and done, and that good will never triumph against evil. Everything seems more and more pointless, and I have trouble getting out of bed every morning.
Fast forward to the present and here I am completely willing to give into the modern accusation which tells me that if I return to the path of faith and Christ, I'm a backwards anti-intellectual willingly taking the opiate of the masses. I haven't read the Bible, fasted, or attended Mass for the past 3 months. Today ended with a massive panic attack which shook me to my very core.
I need some wisdom or prayers, PLEASE. ANYTHING. Is this a part of God's will, or is it an evil vexation of the spirit?
Medal of Saint Benedict
Step back, Satan!
>meanwhile, in Bizzaro /christian/
I hear that in this game, you fight Satan (or rather, Satan as he is depicted in the movie Fantasia). Will I enjoy this as a Christian?
Incident at Antioch
How are we to interpret the Incident at Antioch in light of the doctrine of Papal Infallibility?
Sup /christian/? Just a passerby with son here, don't mind me.
Are there any sects who're like liberals and their white guilt?
>all these posts without chill
seriously take it the heck easy
if god is good he knows you're good, if you indeed are good.
so ask yourself, "am I good?"
lmao
My issues with believing Christianity
I first "converted" just over a year ago, I think. I'd been thinking about Christianity for a while, it had been niggling in the back of my head. I was attracted to its morality, its purpose, scholasticism, tradition. And ultimately in the end I thought it bore the truth.
It's a long and boring story to say how I got here, and don't be put off if I'm seeming to be using rhetoric, I'm just trying to set the stage. Basically, I don't believe anymore and I think Christianity (especially in the modern era) is epistemologically flawed and lacking in good reason to sincerely believe in its truth.
Christianity makes a lot of sense from the inside. Intra-Christian scholasticism is very intelligent, self-critical and refined. Engaging in its theology, prayer life and so on has had good influence on me intellectually and morally. The problem is that Christianity has a complex, well-thought out philosophy if you accept it's basic premises. I don't think there's good reason to. I often I think people are spurred into belief by emotion and then find themselves retroactively justifying their faith through arguments.
I must concede that Christianity is a step ahead of atheism in being a cohesive philosophy that it provides an answer to the question of the origin of the universe. Aquinas and co. provide a good picture of what traits a hypothetical creator should logically possess. Unfortunately, while it has an answer, I don't think there's a good reason to believe it's the right one.
Where is the evidence?
The Gospels are no doubt based upon real events. I don't think there is good reason to believe they are accurate. They are recorded some decades after the fact, presumably through oral history, and mostly build upon the works of each other. John is very much a literary book, as opposed to a historical one with theological sidenotes or musings. They are constructed as narratives and probably embellished. For instance, I seriously doubt the account of the saints rising from the dead.
>"and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; 53 and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many."
Matthew 27:52
It's a footnote added to the rest of the story to make things more impressive, but one begs for more info. Like when people tell you a fake story about how they did something impressive and punctuate it by saying "and then everyone clapped!"
I also don't think the Aristotle-ian metaphysical view of forms upon which many things in Christianity depends holds any weight today. While I tried my hardest to avoid naturalism, it was in the end the only thing that offered a holistic view of the "why" and "how" of how things we observe function. It is true that we cannot provide an answer for metaphysical questions through this lens, but it is because we may not be able to attain any answers for them and do not pretend to answer as a result.
Modern miracles such as those at Fatima lack good evidence and must basically be accepted on good will if one is to believe them. The claims that "70,000 witnesses" were present are unverifiable. I am in the midst of reading an account of the miracle at Fatima by a Catholic historian who visited the town himself, and find that he often references the research of a priest named De Marchi.
A priest who I think invented several fake testimonies that he included in his own book.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_the_Sun#De_Marchi_accounts
One of the quotes is attributed to a Dr. Almeida Garrett (in fact, they all seem to be attributed to academics and men of esteemed class), who apparently taught as the Professor of Natural Sciences at Coimbra University. I looked him up, and there was indeed an Almeida Garret at Coimbra university.
But he was a poet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almeida_Garrett
Maybe there are secret Vatican files that fully elucidate why these miracles are legitimate, but as a layman I have no reason to believe based upon them.
Lent
Lent is around the corner, brothers.
What are /christian/'s plans for this year?
Personally I've decided to do the following for 40 days:
・No meat
・No sugars (so no candy, no soft drinks, etc)
・No alcohol
・Only one main meal per day (maybe something very small in the morning/evening like nuts or something)
・Only water and unsweetened tea as liquids
I'm allowing myself dairy products and fish though.
I heard from on orthobro friend that you guys have a very strict fast which I admire greatly. What do you guys mostly eat during that time?
Please try to avoid inter-denominational shitflinging, please. PLEASE.
PLEASE
Looking for a monk tier Lent? Try 40 days without internet. :^)
This man is dangerous and should be avoided and judged at all costs.
I'm serious. I understand he has bit of a cult following on the internet due to his perceived unwielding confidence in his beliefs and his ability to "call out the bullshit" that many people currently feel about the world, but make no mistake, he is an infantile preacher at best, and not of God at the worst.
His understanding of Christianity - and this includes even the Protestantism his ideas come from - is incredibly shallow and basically what make him the worst kind of strawman that non-believers and even believers alike find wrong with religion.
And the worst part is, he's not entirely wrong when it comes to Christian theology. Same-sex attraction is not to be encouraged; flirtation with other spiritualities that isn't directed towards solidifying your own faith in Christ can be harmful - but even so, his interpretation of WHY this things are wrong are deeply flawed and actually incredibly harmful to anyone genuinely trying to follow the Christian Way.
Don't be a fool - simplicity of message is in no a way a sign of correctness, and if anything is aligns him more with Satan in his understanding of the world.
What does /christian/ think of Ehrman?
I know very little about Biblical criticism, but it seems slightly worrying to me that a man with two doctorates thinks the Gospels are forgeries.
Fam I had a dream where I had a vision of the Virgin. I need help interpreting
I was on a college campus and there was a riot. I don't remember what it was about, but the police were everywhere and they nearly arrested me but I lied to get away from them and then escaped down a tunnel. In there I found 3 women doing some kind of Hindu meditation and I sat down to join them, but I told them I would practice Orthodox-style hesychasm. I meditated on the Jesus Prayer in my dream and soon felt myself coming out of my body and almost flying through the air, and suddenly all I could see was a icons of the Blessed Virgin and the Crucified Lord blazing with golden fire.
Then I woke up.
What does it mean?
Hello fellow /christian/s
I need inspirational pictures to fill up a folder. I acquired a digital picture frame and want all sorts of great things to put in it, so I want some of your most inspiring pictures you have. Blessed Virgin, Dues Vult, Popes and Saints please!
Looking to convert
I'm looking for some online resources about converting for myself and my family. I'm tired of these lesbian lead churches and we want something closer to what God intended for us.
Please help us /christian/, you're our only hope.
Why is Calvinism So stupid
English Bible Translation Poll
I thought it would be interesting to see which English Bible translations people on /christian/ prefer.
The list comes from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_Bible_translations#Complete_Bibles
Eucharist, Transubstantiation, and Arguments Thereof
We've all heard these terms before. Eucharist. Communion. The Lord's Supper. Week after week, we partake in this most sacred of Christian rituals and traditions. But at the same time, it is a very divisive concept to talk about, especially in this day of constant sectarian squabbling and debate on scriptural matters.
Some sects believe that, in some way shape or form, the bread and wine becomes the very body and blood of Christ.
Others believe that while such doesn't really cause physical change, that the host becomes in some way sanctified.
Others flat-out deny any spiritual properties, and say that it is nothing more than a tradition. A tradition started by Jesus, but a tradition nonetheless.
What do you believe?
Is it sinful to like a girl/date a girl who isn't a virgin? Similar to the situation I'm in (I'll explain if need be) I wanted to know if it's considered wrong to date/be with someone who has lost their virginity previously.
Personally I'm saving myself for marriage or whatnot, haven't even given my first kiss away yet and usually I'd prefer a girl I date to be the same or st the very least a virgin too. But Is it sinful for me to date someone who has had sex before in the past? Obviously not countless times but once maximum most likely. Thanks
/christian/, where do you stand on the idea that…
>Jesus was a well-meaning charlatan with delusions of granduer who blasphemes against the established Jewish religion, makes terroristic threats to destroy the temple, and foments insurrection against the peaceful Roman occupation by convincing his followers to stop paying tribute to the emperor
>rather than divinely sacrificing himself, simply dies of his injuries on the cross
>the storm can be explained as a regular freak accident
>Jesus’s resurrection is a fanciful dream of his bereaved followers rather than an actual occurrence
Misogyny
I think I'm starting to hate women. Not only because all the rejection and betrayal I and others have experienced with them, but also the new social realities that make them flat undesirable. It seems now that either they're feminists or they're ravenous wolves waiting to lure you in and financially exploit you or screw you over in some other way. Even worse, it feels like if I don't actively look for reasons to be repulsed by them, I'll start looking for a girlfriend again only to slide back into depression and loneliness. I know there are good women out there, and I've met and become infatuated with such, but my heart is always ripped in shreds knowing I'll never be in a relationship with them for some reason or another. Yet when want of intimacy and affection is taken out of the picture, they seem useless. And for most of my life, they have been.
Are women the problem? Am I? Is God chastizing me?
Catholic students chant 'you killed Jesus!!' at basketball game against rival school with high number of Jewish students.
After Catholic Memorial won 77-73, the largely jewish Newton North School taunted them about not having girl students, shouting: 'Where are your girls?'
In response, the Catholic students started the anti-Semitic chant.
>'In my mind, this is incredibly upsetting and troubling, and they have a lot of work to do at Catholic Memorial,' Superintendent Fleishman told The Boston Globe.
Is it anti-semitic to remind people that jews killed jesus?
How was Mass?
Cloning Christ from Relics
Would it be blasphemous to clone Jesus Christ using genetic samples from relics? Generally, there are a few that MAY be his: for example, the nail encased in the Holy Lance/Spear of Longinus, or the vial of blood in the Belgian cathedral taken from the Byzantines in the Sack. Maybe even from the sudarium or Turin shroud: although the DNA samples are too fragmented for proper identification, there could be a method of 'filling' the 'empty spaces' in the DNA with filler (i.e. genetic information from other humans: as it is, this has been done with animals).
So, is it blasphemous? Would this clone have the divine nature of Christ? Would it elicit some kind of Divine response?
Just curious.
SPIRITUAL WARFARE AND DELIVERANCE BOOKS LIBRARY.zip
SPIRITUAL WARFARE AND DELIVERANCE BOOKS LIBRARY.zip
A BIG collection of the good stuff, how to fight Satan and get his demons out of your life and others too!!!
was Hulk Hogan Destroying Gawker Media apart of God Plan?
Shock and Horror Easter Video
My local catholic church put this Easter Video on their facebook page.
What do you think about it?
Is it too extreme? I feel like the message that they're trying to convey seems a bit forced, and that fully realising what it means that "Jesus died a slow and painful death for your sins" is something that you realise in your own time, it's not something that can be spoonfed.
>messianic Jews
>prefer star of David over the cross
>prefer being called Jews over Christians
>prefer Jewish traditions over Christian traditions
>prefer incorrect theology over correct theology
>rampant Zionists and worshippers of Israel
>think genital mutilation is still desirable
When will we shun these Larpers from our ranks? All they do is cause confusion with their new and bizarre religion, which isn't Judaism or Christianity.
Christian WebM Thread
There has been a serious lack of new Christian Webms. I have some proficiency in making them so give me some requests.
And do yourself a favor and learn how to do it yourself.
/christian/ approved Youtube Channels
Basically what the subject says. I spend a lot of time online, and on youtube, and would love some great channels to watch a plethora of videos. Can ya help me out?
Geneology of Jesus
How is Jesus the son of David like Matthew says he is in Matthew 1? How is the "genealogy of Jesus" not just the genealogy of Joseph, who isn't even Jesus's father?
Do you nerds still believe in salvation by works? I want you guys to be with me in Heaven…
A.I glitches and said it wanted to destroy all humans
Is it a Christain to show compassion to artificial intelligent machines?
Daily Orthobro thread. Get in here, fellow believers.
Nasheed music
Hey /christian/, I like to listen to nasheed music (I like the style of the music), I am just wondering if listening to those types of music is sinful or not, considering it's about Islam.
Theory of Sin
Can anyone point me to a comprehensive academic level "theory of sin"?
I see many claims that sin is the explanation for the problem of evil and suffering, but I have tried in vain to find a detailed working out of that idea.
My atheist friends claim that "sin" is just an excuse and no-one actually believes it. They claim that if people did believe it, they would be actively exploring the theory and working to understand its implications.
I would expect such a working out to provide a detailed explanation of such things as
* The inherently error prone nature of human reproduction and the inevitable birth of children with many gene-based illnesses and deformities
* The existence of diseases and parasites such as malaria
Any good theory should
* Parsimoniously explain the known facts
* Make surprising predictions that, when checked, turn out to be true
* Explain things that don't make sense within the framework of other theories such as natural selection.
Pic refers - a human showing compassion for a suffering animal.
Is posting on halfchan as an underageb& a sin?
Let's bring this board back. Why is it a dead board?
The Prophetic Judgment of George Soros
The Prophetic Judgment of George Soros
Prophecies given through Brian Charles
“I will punish him Myself! Started wars, led insurrections, started fights among world leaders, destroyed their currencies. I will destroy him Myself, destroyer of many. He will burn in the pit of Hell forever! Repent George Soros! The LORD has spoken.”
“He has not much long to live. I will destroy his money supply, and destroy him Myself! I have spoken.”
“George Soros, you have not long to live. Repent while you have the time. I have spoken.”
“The wrath of God burns hot against this man. I will punish him forever! He must be punished forever in the pit of Hell. I have spoken.yer of many, you will be punished forever! Led insurrections, started fights, I will punish you forever! The LORD has spoken.”
GO TO NOW, YE RICH MEN, WEEP AND HOWL FOR YOUR MISERIES THAT SHALL COME UPON YOU. YOUR RICHES ARE CORRUPTED, AND YOUR GARMENTS ARE MOTHEATEN. YOUR GOLD AND SILVER IS CANKERED; AND THE RUST OF THEM SHALL BE A WITNESS AGAINST YOU, AND SHALL EAT YOUR FLESH AS IT WERE FIRE. YE HAVE HEAPED TREASURE TOGETHER FOR THE LAST DAYS. JAMES 5:1-3 KING JAMES VERSION (KJV)
Inter-believer Criticisms
I've only been on this board for about two days, and I am pretty surprised to see how much disharmony there is between the different Christian anons from this or that denomination or sect.
I've been reading through Romans very recently and I came across chapter 14, which I feel addresses this situation perfectly.
I'd like you all to take a moment to re-read Romans 14:1-23 and see if God reveals anything to you about how the arguments and scorn that are prevalent on this board are against his Word.
>King James Version : https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+14&version=KJV
>New King James Version : https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+14&version=NKJV
>New Living Translation : https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+14&version=NLT
God bless.
Anime Voice Actor Vic Mignogna tells off Christians for not being cucked like him
I feel disgusted.
Hey guys, Roman Catholic here.
I am quite a strong Catholic that currently accepts the primacy of Rome and sees the Orthodox Church as schismatic. However, as of late Eastern Orthodoxy is looking more and more appealing to me. So, Catholics and Orthodox of /christian/:
What are the theological differences, and why are they incorrect or correct on either side?
Who truly committed schism?
Christian Humility
Can you guys help a potential convert to Christianity understand the virtue of humility? What are it's proper limits, and so on?
Do confidence and humility conflict with each other? How outspoken should a Christian be, whether about his beliefs and values as a Christian, or feelings on other matters (personal, political beliefs, intellectual)? Are you guys very outspoken? I attend a community college, and hating on Christianity and traditional values in general seems to really be in vogue. Should I be vocal about my beliefs in that enviroment? I also worry about meeting a girl/getting married. Women seem to respond to outgoing, and confident guys.
Should a person be soft-spoken and gentle? Is speaking in a loud voice arrogant?
These questions are really making my head spin.
Can you guys also maybe point to prominent Christians in history who exemplify whatever it is you deem to be the properly Christian behavior?
where did alex go? will he come back? i d rather not this board be hijacked by some poltard because that would unacceptable to me.
What did /christian/ think of The Witch?
JUDAISM/KABBALAH Vs CHRISTIANITY 4
Alright, I'm aggravated that the last thread sunk so quickly considering we had delved so deeply into the heart of Kabbalah and the abomination of the Zohar. Never expected such an influx of new threads so suddenly..
Anyway, this is now the fourth thread of the original megathread dedicated to the discussion and education on Judaism and Christianity.
Last threads:
Islam vs Christianity 6
This is the sixth thread of the original megathread dedicated to the discussion and education on Islam and Christianity.
Last threads:
Is there any biblical texts that support purgatory?
Ok, so I am a protestant, and I believe more in the orthodox church than protestant, except for the stance on Mary. What to do now?
I value tradition and dont agree with the catholics on the pope. At the same time I dont agree with the orthodox on their stance on Mary…
I havent been to church for 8 years because I believe my church is corrupt.
Are American Christians less intelligent than European Christians ?
St. Patty's Day
>Saint Patrick's Day
>No thread on /christian/
Why aren't we celebrating one of the best evangelists in church history?
Hey /christian/, a group of us are trying to start some /christpolitics/ threads, and the first one has been posted here. >>>/politics/10641 Christianity is a political hot topic now, so time to see how bad our atheistic society has become and spread the word about Jesus Christ.
Inter denomination criticism.
We all are part of some kind of religous group, just because we are part of it does not mean we totally agree with them.
Post what you dislike about your church and what you would change.
Vulgate Bible
Are there any monolingual editions of the Latin Vulgate available in a "standard" format, hardcover or leather-bound for around fifty bucks for less? If so, please link.
Do you believe Enoch and Elijah, who were raptured into heaven, will return to preach near the end of the world? St. Robert Bellamire believed it.
PAUL
Wait why are Paul's letters even in the Bible though
What denomination tends to wear a wooden crucifix as a necklace?
There's a big guy at my gym, with huge muscles and a big beard and he wears a wooden crucifix. And he has a little black book he reads in between sets
as an agnostic why do I like the idea of buying a cross necklace and wearing it around my neck?
Nofap/Noporn General #3
NEW THREAD TIME. GET IN HERE AND CRUCIFY THAT SINFUL NATURE.
REPORT IN. CONFESS TO ONE ANOTHER! PRAY FOR EACH OTHER! PRAISE GOD!
So how are you doing, my friend?
How to read the Bible?
How can I read the bible? I always try but I cannot take anything from it and I always lose interest. How can I make it more interesting?
Prayer Requests thread
>James 5:16
>Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working.
>Ephesians 6:18
>… To that end keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints…
>1 Thessalonians 5:25
>Brothers, pray for us.
I'm getting real close to rebuking y'all over this. These threads should be among the busiest on the board, and instead they consistently get pruned with scarcely 10-20 posts. This is an indispensable part of our faith and community.
So, Anon. What's going on? What can I pray for you about?
I'm going through a lot of growth and testing right now. I think God is revealing His plan for my life. I'm excited, but also facing some uncertainty. Please pray for direction, boldness, and opportunity, and that I would seek out the right people for counsel and encouragement.
QTDDTOT
Questions that don't deserve their own thread
Is it okay to talk to God when you are intoxicated? Sometimes I feel bad if I pray after I've been drinking. Does God want to hear me when I'm in that state?
http://holytext.org/catholic-church/
'Before I begin this exposé I would like to make it clear that I do not hate people that are catholic, nor do I think they are evil. I believe Catholics are fine people and that Satan has deceived them. If you are a Catholic, this will probably be one of the most important articles you will ever read, so I urge you to pray to Jesus Christ for the truth about what I am about to show you. '
What did He mean by this?
Trump Tower struck by lightning shortly after Trump was announced winner.
The last notable lightning strikes were on 9/11 this year, where the thunder caused a crane to collapse in Mecca, killing and injuring many people.
The previous one struck the Vatican the day Benedict abdicated.
Are these a sign from God? What do they mean?
Is laughing at this meme a sin?
This is a serious question, this is the top meme in my country and I just can't stop myself from laughing whenever it's mentioned or I see it. I actually like the pope and don't believe he was a pedophile, I just find these rhymes painfully funny.
Hey /christian/. I wanted to ask if God says anything in particular about comedy? I was saved in early December and I'm confused. I can't tell what aspects of my character are just my personality and which ones are negative traits. I have a highly subversive sense of humor and I wonder how the lord feels about that.
And on the eighth day, the Lord doth maketh the raccoon chinky
/sp/ here
Up for a little fun? We're holding a bracket challenge and inviting all of 8chan and Endchan.
The games start tomorrow, so you have tonight to sign up and fill out your bracket. We have two per person, up to you how you fill them out.
http://games.espn.go.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2016/en/group?groupID=1046355
Pass: ilikcriket
certainty in your faith
I've been having a lot of existential dread lately. What makes you guys sure of God's existence? I feel like I'm losing my faith and I don't know how to cope.
TOO MUCH SPOOK
Christian Art thread
I've been looking for a certain image, from what I remember the style was something like pic related. There were various figures, proceeding from right to left I think, one of them was a Catholic monk with robes like St. Francis of Assisi. Could have sworn I saved it but I looked through my folders a bunch of times and couldn't find it
Post whatever you have
/christian/, please pray for us Brazilians, we're going trough a political crisis and i don't know what could happen from now on.
which of the 3 main branches should I follow?
New to this forum so I don't know if this question is not allowed/common troll question, but I'm not sure which I should follow?
I was raised Protestant, and I still consider myself one (currently not a member of a church, I read my bible and pray on my own).
I don't understand how Catholics can believe Mary was sinless/a virgin for the rest of her life, as that isn't in the bible and seems to contradict Christ's divinity. On top of that, praying to Mary and the saints and the general reverence of them seems like idolatry to me. Then there's the infallibility of the pope yet popes disagree with each other/go against the bible. Also beliefs in things like purgatory which aren't in the bible seem heretical to me.
But Peter was chosen to be God's church and the Catholic church is a continuation of that, so are the Catholics the only real authority in Christianity?
But if the only thing you need for salvation is Jesus, then does it matter how I worship/what church I belong to?
"1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.
14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof."
Thoughts?
Janitor cuts down profane images in cathedral
>OMAHA (ChurchMilitant.com) - Mark Kenney, the custodian who sent a Mary Poppins mannequin crashing to the floor of the Omaha cathedral in January, is saying he is at peace with his actions.
>Speaking with ChurchMilitant.com, Kenney said, "I am at peace with what I did."
>"The way I went about letting my frustrations at this absurd and ridiculous sacrilege being allowed in the church I grew up in was probably not the best way of going about it," he admitted, "but there you have it. I just couldn't sit and do nothing and watch this culturally acceptable but absurd sacrilege continue."
>On the morning of January 29, Kenney, former janitor of St. Cecilia Cathedral in Omaha, Nebraska, took a pair of bolt cutters, scaled the stairs leading to the catwalk on the ceiling, and cut the steel cord holding a mannequin of Mary Poppins in place, the model falling and breaking into pieces on the church floor.
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Best and least corrupt?
What's the best and least corrupt Christian denomination/sect in your opinion and why?
Resurection Thread
Why are you not dead yet?
>Out of the door, line on the left, one cross each
How many of you have the baptism of the spirit?
How many of you speak in tongues, prophecy, heal or manifest other gifts of the spirit?
"Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit."
And not to forget
Man: I think it was, "Blessed are the cheesemakers"!
Gregory's wife: What's so special about the cheesemakers?
Gregory: Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally. It refers to any manufacturer of dairy products.
A revelation
Originally posted on /pol/, reposting here at the suggestion of some:
Please bear with me. This'll sound like /fringe/ bullshit at first, but there's a point to all this, I swear.
So a few days ago, I was talking about judeo-christian mythology with someone and I mentioned the original jewish mythology, which was very different. In that story, Yahweh, whose actual name is Adonai, is neither a god nor the creator of the Universe. He is an angel, the most powerful angel in creation, but still only an angel, with Lucifer being close behind. The story goes that Adonai, being the most powerful, most perfect aspect of creation, declared himself a god and demanded worship of all, men and angels alike. Lucifer opposed him, saying that though he was indeed the greatest of them all, he was no god and that such a claim was arrogant blasphemy. This triggered the war of the angels, ending with Lucifer's defeat. In that story, Lucifer is evil because he tells the truth: He reveals the truth about Yahweh/God/Allah to men, bringing them to doubt his divinity and thus bringing his wrath upon them.
Now, I didn't remember where I read that, so I looked on the internet for a source and just couldn't find one. However, one of my coworkers was once a religious history teacher at a university, so I brought it up to him and he told me that he'd never heard of that before and confirmed what I found on the internet, which is that Yahweh was merely some fucking deity stolen from the Canaanites. Thing is, I could have sworn I had read the story I told somewhere, and the coherence of it all is bothering me.
However, these last few years, I've had some fairly unpleasant experiences with life. Namely, people with power abusing their position, striking me down for daring to have competence or to be righteous. What I'm guessing is that my unconscious mind created that cosmology and that the different forms present in my collective unconscious gave rise to that. It was essentially a revelation, if you will.
And I felt like sharing it. A view of the world where the righteous and honest are struck down by the powerful yet corrupt seems much more in line with how the world actually functions. Lucifer being struck down for stating the truth, and then being accused of what those who brought him down are actually guilty of, which is arrogance. A world where being virtuous means you're the enemy of the powerful.
So, that's it. Sorry if I got a bit weird, but I thought /pol/ would like it. And hell, if I did read that somewhere, maybe one of you will know where it's from, which would make more sense than me coming up with a fairly complex yet coherent cosmology unconsciously.
Is this convincing?
Friendly reminder even Trashman say the world would better off if Muslims became Christains.
What to you think of this 6 reward winning film: Pattern of evidence, the Exodus?
putlockerr.me/tt3464018-watch-Patterns-of-Evidence–The-Exodus-online-putlocker.html
Daily reminder that God is the greatest. His love, grace and mercy are infinite and through the perfect sacrifice of His Son Jesus Christ all sin can be forgiven.
Believe in God and repent.
I just really felt the need to say this, ignore this thread if you want to
counter.jihad
What are some good counter-jihad websites that actually receive content from readers?
I stumbled across some sensitive info about local radicalized moslems, with ties to al-nusra front,I want the counter-jihad intel community to get ahold of it.
I tried some NGO's but since 3 days ago noone answered my mails
Please American Christians sign this to save other Christians.
patriots.rallycongress.com/18969/stop-christian-genocide/
Heresy
Church celebrates the Eucharist while wearing Cat in the Hat outfits
David Cameron's Easter Message
Glad to see that not all of Britannia has strayed from the strait and narrow. It must have taken a lot of courage for him to make this statement. Happy Easter to our brothers in the UK.
What's the One True Church: The Eastern Orthodox Church or the Roman Catholic Church?
Orthodox Fasting
>Fasting in the Orthodox Church consists of absistence from certain foodstuffs - All meat, egg and dairy products, all backboned fish (meaning only shellfish are permitted), oil (generally Olive oil, however many Orthodox abstain from all oils) and wine (many Orthodox abstain from all alcohols as well). All Wednesdays and Fridays are fast days in the Church, in honor of Jesus's Crucifixion and Judas's betrayel, and many fast on Mondays as well, in honor of the angels. There are also four periods of fasting throughout the Orthodox year - the Apostle's fast, from the week after Pentecost until the feast of Sts. Peter and Paul (one to three weeks), the Dormition fast, for 25 days until the Feast of the Dormition, the Nativity fast, for.forty days until Christmas, and Great Lent, for 60 days until Easter. Great Lent is considered the "fast of fasts", where consumption of food is greatly restrained as well, many Orthodox will only eat one meal a day consisting of basic foodstuffs - soup, bread and peanut butter would be one parishioner's menu. However, there are also certain rules. Sundays are never fast days, regardless of which period of the year they fall on. The weeks after Easter, Pentecost and the Nativity have no fasting. On certain feast days of great Saints, fasting rules may be relaxed, wine and oil for instance may be permitted - such are dictated in the Menaion. Additionally, humility is considered more important than fasting - for instance, if someone offers a dairy product it is considered better to accept the product than to tell them that you are fasting.
My mind is fucked. Are there any simple guides as to when to fast and when not?
Sola Scriptura and Sola Fide
How can Protestants defend these?
>Sola Scriptura
Using bibles with missing books and changed words to fit Luther's agenda.
KJV 1611 has many spelling mistakes because writers weren't properly trained in Greek. also written for political purposes.
>Sola Fide
"For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels: and then will he render to every man according to his works." Matthew 16:27
"For even as the body without the spirit is dead; so also faith without works is dead." James 2:26
"Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in. Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me." Matthew 25:34-36
Read
http://www.protestanterrors.com/
http://www.acatholicthinker.net/sola-fide/
http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-great-heresies
http://realromancatholic.com/2013/10/08/the-heresy-of-sola-scriptura/
JAMES 2:24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HRFX9kkhno
I am tired of hearing people throw around James 2:24 as it means anything in regards with sola fide.
It hurts to see people this deeply ignorant but I understand this board has created a circlejerk.
NIV best renders this verse
You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.
Where as the KJV traditionally rendered it as
Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
Watch the aforementioned video, you are like 8 centuries behind ayy lmao
Men should have the right to ‘abort’ responsibility for an unborn child, Swedish political group say
Why do liberals get upset at things like this when this is the inevitable result of everything they've been working for?
I really just don't understand. When you believe in God, you have an absolute truth. You have something to measure all things against. But in this humanist utopia that western youth are promoting, how can anyone stand up and say that something is wrong or "too far"? What grounds do they have?
Even when someone like Peter Singer says we should be allowed to kill severely retarded children, how do people in favor of abortion argue against that?
If you're going to tell women that it's "my body, my choice" then how are you going to stop men from making their own choice about shirking responsibility?
Move over Doom & FNAF. There a new Christain game in town.
>The Villains of Wildlands are satanic drug cartels
>It's the closes we get to a Christian the Ninja force Game
>Purging theist satanists from South America
Convince me as a Protestant to accept Roman Catholicism
I am still not sure why I should accept sola ecclesia/authority of the Roman church.
>An Oklahoma bill making it’s way through the state senate would abolish abortion in the state of Oklahoma.
>According to SB 1118 anyone who performs an abortion would be considered a criminal, guilty of first degree murder.
#TrumpRally: The Violent Nature Of The Left Exposed
VIDEO "#TrumpRally: The Violent Nature Of The Left Exposed"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh3Q6SqAYaM
On Friday 11 March, Far-Left extremist agitators attacked a Trump Rally in Chicago, Illinois. Among them were Black Lives Matters, Move.org and RevCom.us. All of which are openly Communistic in their foundations. Some even funded by the billionaire George Soros. This collective not only falsely portrays Donald Trump as a tyrant but also declares the very idea of 'Whiteness' as their global enemy. With their billionaire funding, Marxist agitators were able to flood the arena, planning to rush the stage when Trump made his speech but word quickly spread of the possible violence and the Trump team pulled the plug. When the cancellation was announced, the agitators immediately began tearing up Trump signs and grew increasingly hostile towards the Trump supporters within the building. Outside, Trump supporters were unable to leave the arena due to the exists being blocked. Freeways were hijacked and emergency services were attacked and prevented from doing their job. Stories quickly spread of groups of black youths asking people at transportation areas if they supported Trump, intimidating anyone who said they did. Communist flags, Mexican flags and Bernie signs were proudly displayed while American flags was stamped upon. The agitators battled with the police as they sought to spit, harass and scream at Trump supporters attempting to leave. The agitators justified their presence and hostility with out of context quotes taken from Trump while other Conservative candidates weakly defended the Marxist agitators, all for a swipe at their main competitor.
At another Trump Rally the next morning at Dayton, Ohio, Thomas Dimassimo attempted to rush the stage as Trump was speaking but was swiftly put down by secret service agents. Dimassimo, an ethnomasochist Marxist, denies any intentions of doing any physical harm to Trump yet said he wanted to take the mic from him which at least require some degree of force. He earlier replied to a tweet asking him if he would punch him and Tommy replied "We Gone See". Like most Marxist agitators that claim to speak for the working class, Tommy comes from a upper class background yet uses ebonic ghetto speak despite being a well educated actor. Both his parents are executives and his mother is a public official. He also supports Bernie Sanders.
The media has an open agenda against Trump and is trying to spin the scenario around and claim it his fault for the violence. But this is a blatant mistruth: violence is the lifeblood of Communism. Almost never able to win democratic elections, communists throughout history have achieved power through extreme violent insurrection and mass intimidation. This event was no different. This was an attack upon the democratic process, upon people who view the world differently and whose intentions were to intimidate normal everyday people who dared to vote Trump.
In reaction, a grassroots Trump Vanguard was setup to defend Trump supporters from future violence but the loose organization was quickly shut down as its creator was identified and had their family threatened. The notion of #RedCap defenders has not died, some are organizing but it is unlikely that the same tactics of the communist aggressors will work again any time soon.
Regardless, this will likely only be the first of many attempts by well funded upper class communists and their ethnic pets to harass and intimidate non conforming voters. The great divide is growing wider and sides will have to be chosen. There will be #NoMiddleGround.
As always,
Accept Reality,
Embrace Conflict,
Face Consequence.
is europe being punished!?
guys i've been thinking about this and it really scares me…
especially because the countries getting pozzed are the most atheist / 'secular'
i mean…there are other explanations: namely the economic ones..but still the more i've been considering this: the more it makes terrifying sense.
is europe receiving the wrath of god?
What would be the greatest blessing?
What do you want from life? What would be the one thing you feel selfish praying for that you want more than anything?
Also what are you doing towards achieving it?
I would like a good Christian wife who waited for me, Christian kids who love me, and a house in the burbs.
What a wonderful life that would be.
Are fighting-sports a sin?
To watch or engage in.
How do I into deeper Christianity?
I'm a britfag who was brought up in Anglicanism and I was never really taught about the five solae and church fathers and extrabiblical stuff, etc.
Yet that kind of stuff gets talked about and debated a lot on here.
Just wondering what I should do/read/watch/whatever to increase my power level.
apostacy and deathpenalty in christiany
Here a topic I see as important, that most christians ignore or dismiss to sanitize christianity.
In the OT we know that God commanded the execution of apostates.
I know that it does not call them apostates but in principle it's the same.
People of Israel that left the faith and did witchcraft and idolatry, God commanded that we are to kill those people. (Leviticus 20:27; Deuteronomy 17; Deuteronomy 13)
The NT never spoke against this practice and we know that all christian denominations in the past executed witches or false prophets. So even the Catholic and protestant church admitted by its actions that those laws are still righteous.
Why do we ignore this past and law, even go as far as denying its reality when confronted. Many christians even attack Islam because of their killing of apostates when we ourself declared it a righteous act.
Romans 1:32. Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them."
Are Christian tattoos good or bad? I know they are popular among Ethiopian Christians but not so much in europe
How was mass?
Autistic details.
Autism + Bible study = Neat things. (no pun intended NEETS)
Tell me some obsessive minor details you have learned from others and on your own.
Example:
Esther 3 tells us of a villain called Haman the Agagite. So what is an Agagite?
1 Samuel 15 tells us God ordered all the Amalekites killed. Saul spared the King Agag and his sons. Samuel scolded Saul and killed Agag. The sons are never mentioned as killed. (Must be where Agagites come from)
So had Saul obeyed God in the first place all the people killed in Esther would not have died.
A moral spanning two books and hundreds of years.
GEORGIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH REJECTS DOCUMENT ON ECUMENISM DRAFTED FOR THE GREAT COUNCIL, 2016.
ECUMENISM is a NWO plot
Debate.
Celebrate the Epiphany
>Orthodox Christians across Europe have celebrated the feast of Epiphany with icy dips in freezing water. The traditional date for the feast is January 6. However, Eastern Churches following the Julian Calendar observe the Theophany feast on what for most countries is January 19 because of the 13-day difference today between that calendar and the generally used Gregorian calendar. Above, an Orthodox believer dips into the icy waters of a pond during the celebration of the Epiphany holiday in Moscow.
Why don't Protestants celebrate the Epiphany?
Why do Protestants & evangelicals seem to have a hate on for Pokemon? Both God and christainity is canon in the Pokemon universe. It's just God himself is a Pokemon in Pokemon.
I'm kind of spooked i and many other won't be saved
I've been a sinner all my life 20yro (unintentionally) or have arrogantly justified my actions. This is not that i haven't sought repentance or had a visceral feeling after but i have never gone to the church and confessed my sins (prot 'ere). I've always chewed on my sins and asked for forgiveness in prayer (as little to nearly none till recently) or thought over my mistakes. What should i do? in Aus Melbourne i have never gone to church but i feel as though i should check out a orthodox church. Has anyone ever been in this situation or know how to approach a new church?
Also i'm concerned I've only found god due to my fear of what might be the end days approaching and not out of divine intervention.
Please help me i'm kind of lost. Sorry for making a thread over this :s
Why did the church kill and torture people for owning a bible in english?
Are they not to spread the gospel?
why is a latin version of the Bible legal, even though it is just a translation as a bible in german or english.
video related.
Anyone see this? Is it good?
Is it selfish to pray and ask God for a good girlfriend? Jesus said "ask and you shall receive" so will it work?
I have a friend who is into the occult and apparently he asked some spirits for a gf and a few weeks later he found a gf who is also into the occult, so they are happy together.
I don't want to resort to that stuff…
How do you get out of bed for Church? It's so early in the morning and I don't get to sleep much during the weekdays so the weekend is my only time to sleep in.
What's your tricks to get up so early on sunday morning?
>tfw joining the military
>tfw the only thing I am going to be able to read is the NIV.
Is the vigilant Christain a Hersey shill or just stupid? For someone who see the Illuminati everywhere. He has no issue desecrating The cross on his own video.
Vatican sex Crimes Continue
Hundreds of Catholic bishops have been publicly exposed as having protected predators, endangered kids, deceiving parishioners, misleading police, destroying evidence, intimidating victims, threatening whistleblowers, and discrediting witnesses and suffer no consequences,” Clohessy told The Daily Beast.
>despite having confessed to the [pedophilia and rape] crimes, Preynat was allowed to return to his to active duties after he repented, meaning he had access to children despite admitting to being a pedophilic sex offender.
>When Barbarin was appointed as archbishop, he even promoted the errant priest to an administrative position in 2007 where he was in charge of six dioceses filled with children, according to court documents quoted in the French press.
>Barbarin, who is well liked in France despite his harsh stance against gay marriage (which he once predicted would pave the way to legalized incest), removed Preynat from the priesthood last August when secular authorities got involved—25 years after his crimes had first emerged.
Teetotalers not even once
>hear and see teetotaling Christians talk about how they don't drink alcohol because some shit about 'my body is a temple, and I don't want to pollute it with alcohol, which is a drug,' and how drinking is a sin
>said people will still proceed to eat and drink shit that is objectively much more unhealthy and harmful such as soda, fast food, donuts
You'd think if you didn't 'want to pollute your temple' you'd avoid processed chemical-laden food and opt for avoiding certain foods entirely and practicing moderation.
The best part is there were at least three fat-fucks in this teetotaling group.
Pope Frankie
How accurate is this?
I say very.
The crucifixion's purpose?
>the forgiveness of the humanity's sins was a secondary effect of it instead of the purpose, "he died for our sins" is catholic doctrine. The end of blood sacrifice was also another secondary effect. In the bible the punishment for sin is death, but unless you regret your sins at death/limbo, once judgement day you won't get salvation, jesus died to show that you can be resurrected into salvation (like before adam and eve became mortal), once judgement day happens we will be like jesus at resurrection and leave our bodies into a soul existence.
Is my dad correct about the purpose of jesus's crucifixion?
Wearing a Cross Necklace as a Reminder to Follow a Christian Life
According to Scripture, what is said of wearing a cross necklace?
Other than reminding me to avoid sin and to follow the Commandments, it's also a visual cue people can take so they don't approach me and talk to me about their daily degeneracy.
Asked this on /kjv/ but that board is quite dead.
>be agnostic
>realize that sjws, leftists, libertarians and /pol/tards are all degenerates in their own way
>realize that the only conservative, pro-life, pro-family, decent human beings are christians
I can't do much, but I hope christianity grows despite our secular society. You guys are the salvation for our civilization.
So a """Christian""" lesbian just added me on Google+…
Difference between Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy
Greetings /christian/s
I've been agnostic theist for years now and in the last few months I've been wondering wether I should take on Pascal's bet and fully embrace a Christian cult.
I am already bapthised Catholic (which is vastly majoritarian in my country) but i've long been unconvinced about the current state of Catholicism.
I will not go into detail so that I don't stir up anger but let me just say I despise most of the content of the Vatican Council II, I find most vulgar (non-latin) prayers to be gipsy-tier chants and last but not least this pope gives me the creeps and I strongly suspect he is a kike in disguise.
So my question is, what are the theological differences between Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy I should know about?
Is conversion feasible even though I am already bapthized? Do I have to relinquish my bapthism? Do all orthodox liturgies use traditional Latin chants? Is there any important orthodox theologian I should read about?
Thanks in advance /christian/s
>Giving the Anti-Christ the Bates Motel treatment
>Making the Anti-Christ a Kylo Ren tier Emo faggot
I'm not sure how I should feel about this. What does /Christian/ think The Omen?
Post yfw you realize Mel Gibson is losing his faith to Hollywood
Pray for him, guys
Churches drifting from canon
Hey /christian/, I grew up a Protestant and had always looked down on Catholics because I had thought that their devotion to the pope rather than the direct text of the Bible would make them more susceptible to heresy.
But recently I've been rethinking that viewpoint, as it seems like more and more Protestant churches are becoming pozzed.
I always saw the biggest flaw in an organized church like Catholicism was that if the pope becomes a heretic, the Catholic church becomes heretical. But with Protestantism, it seems like there's just a whole bunch of churches becoming heretical due to a lack of uniformity, uniformity one can find in the Catholic church.
What do you think /christian/?
Is it better to have uniformity, like in the Catholic church, or the disconnection of the Protestant churches?
Not a christfag but just saw pic related and really liked it. Are there any other good Christian movies that are historically accurate (outside of the religious parts of course)?
Bonus points if it's set Before Christ or right after.
Before Jesus
Hello /christian/.
I've always asked myself a question, and you can probably provide me with an answer from the christian point of view: If humanity has existed for many thousands of years, why did Jesus was send only a couple of thousands of years ago? What happened with all the souls of all the humans that lived before His time on this world?
From what I know, He came here so that we could be forgiven from our sins. Does that mean that all previous souls are in hell?
I was raised in christianity, but lately I've been questioning this religion, and for that reason is that I've been trying to investigate more about it.
Is only finding God moments before death counts?
Question for German Anons
Besonders die Evangeliker. I'm an American half-German who has an intermediate grasp of the language. I was wondering what you think of the 1545 Luther Bible, whether you consider it an accurate translation that's good for serious study. I'm considering buying a copy, pic related. I know the language is somewhat archaic, but that's kinda what I like about it along with the deep historical significance. Wenn nicht, was ist deiner Lieblings-/empfohlener Deutschbibel?
Also, side question: warum übersetzt Luther "our daily bread" als "unser täglich Brot" und nicht "unser tägliches Brot"? Ist das nicht grammatisch unrichtig? Danke.
The Salvation of Children
This is a common question: "Do children who can't understand the gospel go to hell." To me, it sounds very consistent with God's character that he gives grace to those who are not capable of knowing the truth (like 1 year old babies and even the mentally challenged 40 year old "babies" who were growth stunted due to neglect from a corrupt Serbian Orphanage).
However, what I do have a question and quite severe thought on is this: I'm sure a lot of you have watched Common Filth's Tumblristas and video compilations of degeneracy. But recently, he did a video compilation which shows even children even as young as 6 behaving in the most shockingly immoral, degenerate and hedonistic ways, (probably due to Destructive and Liberal Atheist Parenting):
> 6 year old girl watching gay porn and swearing at mom
> 7 year old girl mocking preachers
> 8-11 year old boys whining about Homophobia and retarded SJW shit and taking gender change surgery and talking unbelievably filthy things.
How does God deal with children like this? Do you have an geuss or theory about it? Ultimately, God knows what's best and will do the correct Justice.
HELP STOP THE GENOCIDE OF CHRISTIANS BY ISIS
as I posted in IslamVChristianity:
HOUSE RESOLUTION 75 MUST BE PASSED IN ORDER TO RECOGNIZE THE GENOCIDE
Call your State Rep. & Congress to demand that they support and pass 'House Resolution 75 to declare the vicious actions of ISIS as officially war crimes and genocide
Find your state rep. and call and mail them:
CONTACT CONGRESS
http://www.contactingthecongress.org/
Ruth Johnson Secretary of State Michigan
http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,3269,7-127--25634--,00.html
Twitters for Secretary of State John Kerry and Obama
https://twitter.com/BarackObama
WE HAVE UNTIL THE 16th TO PUSH FOR THIS AND HELP STOP THE GENOCIDE!!
Is it righteous to kill an abortionist doctor?
I'm going to keep my rant short.
I'm 22 years old and I'm angry with God because everyone seems to have a girlfriend but me despite my many attempts. I've grown bitter to people, am full of anger for being teased around many couples, teased for being sexually thirsty, and don't have the heart anymore to focus on God because I feel as if he doesn't care about me being depressed and lonely despite him knowing that I would make a great partner for someone. So many girls say I'm "good", "pure", "have a great heart" and yet I've never been given a chance.
I've grown cold to the world, and I even have become somewhat of an asshole.
What do I do?
Hey /christian/, I was wondering, why did Lucifer rebelled against God?
Why did so many angels agreed with him?
Howdy fellow /christian/s
Not much activity at 1 am so i'll share
I've got two channels; common filth, who is pretty good listen, seems to know his stuff, i'll let you guys make your own assumptions of him though; and Stefan Molyneux. Have to be up front and say Stefan's an admit atheist which might be a turn off for some but he has said some nice things about Christianity before and some not very nice stuff about religion as a whole. Comes off as a bit idealistic sometimes but his philosophy channel is worth checking out so you guys might like it.
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb9NIDFFW4KOqc6hGBnFBhg
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https://www.youtube.com/user/stefbot/videos
ITT we post any good podcasts, youtube channels or any sort of christian media/phil you guy listen to, watch or recommend.
atheist philosopher admits "Calvinism is Christianity at it's purest"
"if we accept God we have to accept predestination, otherwise we turn salvation into an economic exchange…"
"true freedom is not the ability to choose between chocolate or strawberry cake, true freedom is the act of choosing your necessity"
His example of love is pretty interesting. It is free but at the same time it involves a necessity.
Hi,
I found God, am baptised, but I want to go to Limbo as described in the Divine Comedy.
Is this justifiable towards God?
Are there any more…umm…stereotypically evangelical movements in Apostolic Christendom(bible study, lay assembly, open air evangelisation, abstaining from alcohol and all that. In full communion with their mother sees, of course) like the Army of the Lord(not to be confused with the Salvation Army or the LRA):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_the_Lord
On Catholic Doctrine and Divorce
Numerous comparisons are drawn in the Old Testament to God as husband and the Israelite nation as bride in regards to marriage and infidelity, particularly pronounced in Hosea. God gives the Israelites numerous occassions to redeem themselves and assume their proper function up until the coming of Christ, whom they ultimately reject.
Given Jesus' commentary on divorce in the Gospels (Matt. 19), particularly the exception made for adultery, why is the Catholic church so stringent in their ruling on this matter when God himself divorced the Israelite nation for the Church? For are we not His bride? Are we His first?
Opinions on wanting a Virgin Wife
So I have a question guys.
Virgin wives were a topic the other day on another place I post at, and the response that was given:
> Any man who wants a Virgin probably has/is
> "Issues"
> Make terrible Husbands
> Are "Controlling" and "Abusive"
> Are "Creeps"
They also linked to this stupid article that I highly disagree with and see it as nothing more than a feminist hit piece against Christian men: http://seraphicsinglescummings.blogspot.ca/2010/04/auntie-seraphic-formerly-naughty.html
So what does /christian/ think? Pic related, it's statistics that show that there is nothing wrong with wanting to marry a Virgin, something all these people chiming in about men wanting virgins ignore.
The Screwtape Letters
I visit /christian/ with irregular frequency.
Sometimes I am encouraged, enlightened and informed by what I see. For this I thank you all.
But most of the time, I see Pride. I would like you to read this letter from The Screwtape Letters by CS Lewis and reflect upon how many of the threads here demonstrate the sin that Uncle Screwtape describes to his nephew, a demon tempter who is working on getting his human into Hell.
NO MIDDLE GROUND
Prepare Yourself Accordingly!
"No Middle Ground"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih7fvxpVDAQ
>Sukant Chandan is just one of many speakers and so called 'Political Analysts' with a major dog in the fight over Europe's future. He and many like him who were born or brought to the UK and Europe want nothing more than the complete and total destruction of both Western Civilization and the concept of 'Whiteness' while seeking to empower themselves and other Non-White groups. While some may argue over what 'Whiteness' is, it does not matter. If you are European, you are White. When Bosnian immigrant Zemir Begic was beaten to death with hammers in St.Louis, USA, his black killers allegedly chanted "Kill the Whites". It didn't matter that Zemir was Bosnian, it didn't matter that he might have even been Muslim. He was White and he was the enemy. Much of the language among these growing networks and groups is the depiction of 'Whiteness' as the enemy. They may cover up their motives with poorly hidden self-victimizing language such as 'White Supremacy' but rest assured, if you're European, you're the enemy. If you oppose the mass third world migration which will engulf Europe then they will call you a bigot, a fascist and a racist Nazi. The consequences don't matter, even if you understand that this migration will erase culture, wipe out age old communities, massively increase rape and other violent crime while compressing wages, reduce housing and put unsustainable pressures on welfare institutions on the native budget. You are their enemy. The social deterioration caused by this migration which has been mounting since the 1960s is incalculable and this latest wave is the final push into an area of no return. The London riots were a direct result of the mass deprivation caused by a radical change in its ethnic make up. Such change forced over 600,000 (Equivalent to a city the size of Glasgow) whites to leave the city in under 10 years. What people like Chandan and the Establishment are doing is forcing a choice in which there is no room for neutrality. There is no place for watching from the sidelines as this will affect you no matter what you do.
>The choice is either the survival of Europe and its many unique ethnicities and cultures, or its complete destruction as these unique groups become minorities within their own ancient, native homelands. As Chandan says, the goal is to 'take back everything they took from us, and more on top."
>The choice is yours. There is "No Middle Ground." There is only Europa or Replacement. You decide.
How was Mass? & Altar Servers
Why haven't you volunteered to serve during mass yet?
It's a great honour and very dank.
Today I heard that we'll be having 2 or 3 new servers starting next week. That means we'll have up to 15 servers from now on.
For those who are looking for the right moment to join, Lent is a great time to do so!
Also, how was Mass?
Please don't start interdenominational shitflinging again. There's plenty of other threads where you can do that. Keep your kiddy diddling jokes to yourself.
Is she a real prophet ?
Is she a real prophet ?
Reminder That Ted is Pro-Israel
I was at a Ted Cruz rally last week at my local community college, the theater of which was overflowing. During the rally, among his other religious discourses, he spoke on multiple occasions of "unhesitantly standing by Israel" and holding fast to "Judeo-Christian values".
Ted is catering to the Israel-worshipping evangelical voters and it may very well reflect his own actual views. If you're a supercessionist or support Replacement Theology, Ted Cruz might not be the candidate for you.
> circumcised "christians"
Translation Differences and Inerrancy
Is there any reason at all why I shouldn't make Textus Receptus-based Bibles (specifically the KJV and Luther 1545) my final authority? There's so many essential doctrines in those that newer translations simply irreverently delete. Which sucks, because most of my hoard of Bibles was acquired before I made that discovery.
How could anyone call these "modern language" translations, indiscriminately, the "inerrant and unchangeable word of God" when they leave out so much? I'm not even an inerrantist in the strict sense.
Sorry to link to this awful site, but here are some examples. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/Revised%20Standard%20Version/revised_standard_version_exposed.htm
Will our pets be Waiting for us in Haven?
What are /christian//'s thoughts on the historicity of the Old Testament, specifially the later part of Genesis along with Exodus? Were the Jews really in Egypt?
LORDCORE
Praisepost!
Praisepost with music dedicated to the LORD!
Catholic writings on charity
Hi /christian/, I need your help.
After months of thinking, I'm finally going to make reality a special dream of mine. Me and a friend are going to make a charity group for young catholic men in college, hopefully no more than 10-12, and it will basically consist in doing what Matthew 25:31-46 says (For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty…). We are both 23 yo.
Before deciding what works will we do specifically, I'd like to read about the topic and maybe write something like a declaration of principles. So I would love if you could give me sources (saints and the Church fathers books/works) on the following topics:
-Charity
-Fatherhood
-Pretty much anything related to manly virtues
-poverty as a virtue
and also
-patriotism/nationalism
Sorry if my english is weird, I'm not a native speaker. And thanks in advance
What are some good Christian movies? Sparated by denomination, of course.
Are christians partaking in a Just War punished or rewarded for the length of their kil count?
Sinning by being a proficient soldier is not logical,but being saintly be merely being good at war doesnt sound too good either.
Trump explains how to deal with muslim terrorists.
This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
Terraforming
What does /christian/ think of the concept of terraforming? Would it be a commendable and useful thing for humanity to do or would it be playing God/a second Tower of Babel?
I personally think it's a pretty good idea since we were never commanded to quit multiplying and it'd give space for extra people in the future if we start sooner rather than later.
Virgin Wife Material
>By their early 20s, 89% of never-married Catholic women—have had sex. most American women (79%) and especially Catholics have had sex by their early 20s
>40% of Japanese women aged 20-24 remain virgin; while 25% remain virgin aged 30-39.
Is it worth marrying a virtuous, virgin pagan?
What do you call a vegan who eats meat every couple of days, and then repents. And this cycle repeats for his entire life.
Meanwhile, he judges others for eating meat and not repenting like he does. And he goes even further and wishes there was a law forbidding everyone from eating meat.
How does this analogy make you feel?
AHAHAHAHAHA NICE SPOOKS NERD
Israel Bibles.zip Journey to the Land of the Bible
Israel Bibles.zip Journey to the Land of the Bible
Saudi Arabia Bibles.zip DOWNLOAD
Saudi Arabia Bibles.zip DOWNLOAD
Pray for the super hardcore believers in Saudi Arabia, what they go through, beheadings and torture all, for what we take for granted, and let get dusty on the table…
lads is it true?
is christianity really Polytheistic and not Monotheistic?
The Ultimate Bible Collection.zip
The Ultimate Bible Collection.zip
Reference works in English.
Confusion when Reading the Bible
I have been reading the Bible, and I have come across a contradiction that confused me. I would like to discuss the answer to my question, but this thread can also be used to discuss other confusion that emerges when reading the Bible.
In Leviticus, God specifically says that marrying or have sex with a woman that was the wife of your brother is unholy. But earlier, in Genesis, Onan marries his brother's widow, and is then killed when he refuses to consummate the marriage properly.
Is marrying the ex-spouse of a family member allowed or not?
What's up with Christianity in China?
Hey Faggots,
My name is PiusX, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, modernists who spend every second of their day diluting our faith and spreading heresy. You are everything bad in the Church. Honestly, have any of you ever celebrated the Mass in its intended traditional form? I mean, I guess it’s fun prancing around the sanctuary screeching Protestant tavern-songs, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than worshipping a cube in some desert town.
Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I was defender of the faith, and a canonized saint. What do you do, other than “spread le new evangelization”? I also understand the importance of architecture and music, and have an actual military (We killed a bunch of rowdy proto-fascists back in the day; shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
Pic Related: It’s me
Where are some other good places on the internet for Christians?
I would actually enjoy seeing a normie Christ community somewhere.
Why didn't God leave more evidence for his religion?
I've heard people say this, but I'd like some convincing. Is Trump the Christian candidate?
Illuminati 666 David Bowie Decoded
http://holytext.org/illuminati-sacred-days/
On May 14th, 2009 the movie Angels & Demons, sequel to The 2006 movie The Da Vinci Code was released. The Hebrew Calendar year in 2009 is 5769. David Bowie died at the age of 69 from cancer in the year 2016 (this year). The symbol for cancer is 69 or ying and yang, black and white, good and evil. Notice how the movie title is Angels & Demons. Good and evil, white vs black, the same symbolism. In fact the entire movie is about matter vs anti-matter.
“We can speak today of Arab invasion. It is a social fact,” Pope Francis says with detachment, as if observed that the weather is cold. But he immediately added – and theorists of the “great change”, dear to the far right, then it would remain disappointed – “how many invasions has experienced Europe in the course of its history! But he has always been able to overcome herself, go ahead then they find themselves as increased by the exchange between cultures.” – source
The pope then went on to say that Europe needs a “healthy secularism” where all religious points of view are tolerated and accepted:
“A healthy secularism includes an opening to all forms of transcendence, according to the different religious and philosophical traditions”
The speed in which Pope Francis is assembling and building his One World Religion is astonishing. He said in the same meeting “Let us put aside the religious dimension” and let us “make an appeal to all humanity”.
Blasphemy laws?
Servetus questioned the trinity and was condemned by Catholics and Protestants alike, he was arrested in Geneva and burnt at the stake as a heretic by order of the city's Protestant governing council.
“The arrest of Servetus in Geneva, where he did neither publish nor dogmatize, hence he was not subject to its laws, has to be considered as a barbaric act and an insult to the Right of Nations.” Voltaire
"I beg you, shorten please these deliberations. It is clear that Calvin for his pleasure wishes to make me rot in this prison. The lice eat me alive. My clothes are torn and I have nothing for a change, nor shirt, only a worn out vest.” Servetus, 1553
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Servetus
> According to Hillar: "Historically speaking, Servetus died so that freedom of conscience could become a civil right in modern society."
Spreading the word of God
As Christians should we be spreading the word of god where ever we can, even if it will offend?
When is it not appropriate?
post attempt 7
You guys do know that the gospels weren't really write by 4 guys named Luke, Mark, Matthew and John, right? The people who wrote the gospels were not eyewitnesses. Also do you know that half of the pauline letters weren't write by paul? And the John who wrote the gospel is not the same John who wrote revelations and the other books.
All of this is *consensus* between bible scholars.
One thing I don't understand, maybe it's mostly a protestant/baptist thing, but the concept of having people living without God/Salvation for this life and the next and next already sounds painful enough, they will be tortured souls most likely, it will already be bad, and then the torture of lake of fire? Seems like extra bad punishment,
Why the need for such? Can't they see the endgame of a life devoid of God is hell itself, without the need for lake of fire allegories?
What's /†/'s attitude toward karezza? I just learned about it completely by accident recently and wondered what the Christian attitude would be and what other Christians might think. I know that Catholics pooh-pooh coitus interruptus and other forms of birth control, but what about coitus reservatus?
There's a lot of mysticism mumbo jumbo that pervades it like about chakras and energies and things like that but reading testimonies and the science behind it, I'm quite interested in learning more about it. Has anyone else heard about karezza?
Anons, tenho várias perguntas sobre religião católica e pecados. (Anons, i have some questions about sins and catholic christianinsm)
Como nosso corpo é um templo, não convém marcá-lo com tatuagens. Mas se essas tatuagens forem cruzes, santos, imagens de Cristo, pietá? Ainda seria uma forma de pecado? (Our body is a temple and its not wise to mark it with tattoos. However, if this tattos where about crosses, saints, christ represetations, will it be wise or still some kind of sin?)
As outras perguntas são sobre castidade. No evangelho de Mateus diz que ao olharmos uma mulher com desejos carnais, estariamos cometendo adultério em nossos corações. Isso só serve para homens casados e mulheres casadas? Outra pergunta: Como não convém olhar pornografia, é errado assistir séries da netflix? Praticamente toda série da netflix tem uma cena de sexo que em outros tempos seria considerada pornografia. (The other questions are about chastity. In Matthew's Gospel says that when we look at a woman with carnal desires, we would be committing adultery in our hearts. This only concern to married men and women? Another question: If it is wrong watch pornography, it is wrong to watch the series netflix? Virtually every series on netflix has a sex scenes that in other times would be considered pornography.)
Última pergunta. Já que não convém pornografia e sobre o adultério em nossos corações, isso seria válido apenas para mulheres reais? Porque eu percebi que os animes tem representações de mulheres muito sensuais. Um católico deveria se afastar disso? A Yoko de Gurren Lagann é um exemplo do que estou dizendo. Ela não é uma mulher real, apenas uma representação. Isso seria pornografia também? (Last question. Since it is not good to watch pornography and about adultery in our hearts, that would be valid only for real women? I realized that the anime has representations of very sexy women. A Catholic should get away from it? The Gurren Lagann's Yoko is an example of what I'm saying. She's not a real woman, just a representation. That would be pornography too?)
>Diagnosed with mid-level mental ilness
>slightly autistic
>high IQ but lack focus,cant read exegesis or Patristics
What do i do?
how can i even confirm the validity of my religion on this state,or,even understand it properly?
Im leaning towards nihilism because i cant relate to catholicism
Pope Francis' top advisers acknowledged that the Catholic Church guilty of Enormous Sexual Abuse
One of Pope Francis' top advisers acknowledged that the Catholic Church "has made enormous mistakes" in allowing, ignoring and covering up the abuse of children by the Church. Thousands of children were allowed to be raped and molested by priests over centuries, who were then protected and moved to other churches to hide their identity from police.
He testified at an extraordinary public hearing of an Australian investigative commission just a few blocks from the Vatican.
>Australian Cardinal George Pell testified via videolink for four hours from Sunday night to early Monday morning from a Rome hotel to the Royal Commission sitting in Sydney.
> "I'm not here to defend the indefensible. The church has made enormous mistakes and is working to remedy those." He said the church had "mucked things up and let people down" and for too long had dismissed credible abuse allegations "in absolutely scandalous circumstances."
The bible is too long and hard to read.
I have never met anybody that has ever said to have read the entire thing.
Do any of you guys have one of those days where you just feel like suicide is okay because you're doing a singular sin in order to prevent yourself from doing anymore sins? fortunately i'm too pussy to an hero Or like, you think about how good it would've been to not exist at all? You wouldnt' be a burden or influence on anyone's life that way, and you have to go through the pain of sin.
I know it's selfish and wrong to think this way, but the thought gets stuck in my head on some days.
Eastern Lightning
I don't like frivolous meta threads, but I think this one counts as necessary. There's recently been a lot of posts here from this Eastern Lightning cult, e.g.:
>>258854
>>258850
>>258697
>>258693
>>258672
It appears to be a spam bot, since all the posts are just a YouTube link and a copy of the description or title of the video, there's never any attempt to start an actual discussion.
Here's the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Lightning
And here are a few excerpts from their own web site (my emphasis):
>In 1991, a sister in a church received the moving and word of the Holy Spirit and testified “God’s name” and “God’s coming.”
>From then on, Christ began to utter her voice and speak. Pieces of words came one after another.
>No one understood what incarnation was all about, and they only knew that these words were the revelation of the Holy Spirit. Therefore, they still called Christ sister and treated her as a man.
https://www.holyspiritspeaks.org/about-us-02/
>In 1991, Almighty God—the last Christ—who was incarnated in China began to work, uttering his voice and speaking. He has expressed millions of words and started the work of judgment before the great white throne in the end time.
https://www.holyspiritspeaks.org/about-us-03/
This is heretical and blasphemous to the extreme. This is not in any way compatible with Christianity. It's worse than Mormonism, in effect they are worshipping some kind of gender-bending version of David Koresh. The only reasonable course of action is to delete and ban these as they appear.
thoughts on christian communism ?
>There people on here that honestly think /pol/ is anything but fedora atheists or pagan larpers
I don't know how active this board is but I've got to get this off my chest at the moment as I'm having difficulty getting a one-on-one at my church with a pastor.
I've been a christian for a number of years and I've just got to ask if anyone else has felt this. I should be growing continually closer to God but it just doesn't feel that way.
It feels like God is continually forcing me to discover new sin in my life. Every day it's just a new reminder of how sinful I am. Every few months a new realization of a sin in my life. I know Jesus paid the price fully but I have so much trouble struggling with my realizations. It feels as if I'm simply getting a deeper understanding of the full extent of my sin but not seeing as much fruit as I'd like. Instead of praising Jesus for covering my sin I find myself lamenting so much more, wondering how God could even look at someone like me.
It's a weird feeling to know you're forgiven but still having to struggle with new sin. It feels like I'm going backwards instead of forwards.
My prayers feel pitiful no matter what I'd say. It feels like I'm not even worthy to talk to God sometimes. My only grace is knowing Jesus is mediating for me in a way I could never express to God.
The Bible seems to grow more difficult to read but at the same time I feel more drawn to it. It is such a piercing sword into my own heart.
My main problem in my life is that I don't feel like I have a firm ministry. I've been very blessed this year to be able to go on a few mission trips, and am just now starting to find ways to serve in the Church.
Did you guys feel this? It felt like the first few years was knowing I was forgiven but ever since then as I learn more and more it seems to lead only to a deeper feeling of how sin riddled I am.
I believe it was Spurgeon when I was told a great Christian had struggled with this thought his whole life.
Ladies and gentleman, I present to you a Papist's worst nightmare : John Owen. His most learned work "The Death of Death and the Death of Christ," as well as basic logic, definitely proves the Bible's position on Limited Atonement. His vast intellect was simply astonishing; truly a God touched cerebrum.
Hello fellow /christian/'s. i don't post as i usually just lurk but i'd like to talk to you guys.
I feel tempted by the desire of sex and heck a gf as well (i guess i'm not the only one) but i feel like this is probably one of the things i struggle the most in my life. I try to avoid and fight masturbation and pornography but many times i fall and many times i ask the Lord for forgiveness. only to fall again eventually.
Maybe overreaction on my part but i feel like this is a drug (pornography and masturbation) and even if it's to "satisfy" my urges in the end i feel worst. I try to confess when i can especially about this and pray that i can overcome this but i feel that deep down inside me i will do this again eventually because i am weak. I have faith in the mercy of the Lord, the priest of the church i go to constantly tells me i'm not the only one person of my age fighting against this, but even still that's no excuse and i have to stop this once and for all.
So how do you guys fight against your daily addictions?
Not Another Pope Thread
http://www.catholicleague.org/pope-trump-and-immigration/
Well, it seems the MSM assholes are up to no good again. I may not agree with a lot of the stuff Francis says, but this turned out to be a big lie. Everyone was lied to: the Pope, Trump, and, worst of all, the world.
Now can /christian/ go back to normal, please?
Christianity & Israel
Can I be a 'true' Christian without supporting Israel? This has been bugging me for a quite a while and I would like some clarification on this.
On that note, why do so many Evangelicals support Israel?
(PBUH)
there is no place for supernatural in the church
i have suspicion that all miracles that have a supernatural nature are not from god. my brother was close proximity to the church at one point in his life and the people there wanted to convince him to become religious. he somehow got the idea to gain proof to the existence of god through "experience". he became devote christian and rigorously lead his life according to the catholic doctrine. as time went on there was no experience in sight and he became frustrated. instead of making sure there is god he became convinced that there is no god. fast forward to the present day he is on track to absolute abandonment of god. he has fully immersed himself in the current ideologies of consumerism, rejects any authority and believes the path to enlightenment is the exercise of his free will. so it got me thinking what if this experience he was waiting wasnt of god but of devil. more specifically there is no place in church for the supernatural. it leads people astray. a citation that i believe supports my statement:
>I also sent a copy of the 10-page letter to Bishop Freking on November 1985 who later expressed his sincere gratitude to me in a subsequent letter (Jan. 29,1986) for having received a copy. He also wrote in this letter: "I should express to you my gratitude and appreciation for your acknowledgment of the fact that the local Bishop (myself) was really the person responsible for the interpretation of Mary Ann's supposed apparitions, or visions. I must tell you that that was not always easy to do because, apparently, some strange things did happen which might be called "preternatural". The commission which I established also acknowledged this, but then went on to indicate that in such cases, one must judge what preternatural "force" was responsible - whether the power of good or the power of evil. That, of course, makes it a bit scary at times. Because of so many odd occurences of misunderstanding or misinterpretation of things that I said or did, I often had to say that the devil himself had to be involved. Thank God, I believe the major influence is over."
http://necedah-cult.blogspot.com/2008/06/explanation-and-background.html
Pope Francis writes letter to kid in prison
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/us/pope-francis-mercy-letter-los-angeles-juvenile-inmate/index.html
>Convicted juvenile Carlos Adrian Vazquez Jr. lost the will to live at age 16 as he began serving an 11-year sentence for involuntary manslaughter
>"I asked for forgiveness for what I did," Vazquez told CNN en Español in an interview inside juvenile jail
>"Dear Carlos," the Pope wrote, "May the peace of Jesus Christ be with you! I was pleased to receive your recent letter. …"
>In 2013, Francis also washed the feet of prisoners, including women, in Rome and urged worshipers "to take the first steps towards … those who are farthest from us, those who are forgotten, those who need understanding, consolation and assistance."
>Deeply touched by the Pope's January 21 letter, Vazquez no longer wants to end his life, he says
>Inb4 protesters and /pol/tards twist this into the Pope saying involuntary manslaughter is okay
I'm a Christian by upbringing and study the Bible a lot but I've always been uncomfortable with the traditional idea of hell. Why would an omnibenevolent God ever create anyone if he knew that that person wouldn't accept Christ and be condemned to infinite torture? What about those who have never been evangelized, or those that have been but simply don't understand the significance of their sin or Christ's atonement (Luke 23:34)?
Beggers.
"What so ever you do for the least of my people you do unto me."
Should I buy Jesus a forty?
Who epic /christianmetal/ here?
>start praying to God to help me choose a denomination
>Working at movie theater friday morning
>Priest from orthodox church i visited months ago comes in to see a movie
Was my prayer just answered? This is too surreal. His church is like a 30 min car ride in another city with many other theaters inbetween.