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/christian/pol

>What is this thread?

The designated political discussion thread. Christians from all parts of the political spectrum are encouraged to discuss relevant political topics and ideas, as well as ask questions and hopefully recieve answers from all points of view. Anything related to politics that doesn't actively involve the Catholic/Orthodox/Protestant churches should go here, so if a politics thread is deleted, this thread is the reason why.

As a reminder:

All board rules apply to this thread, so keep things civil.

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Prayer Requests

“But I have prayed for you, that your faith would not fail. And you, when you have turned back, strengthen your brethren.”

Luke 22:32

Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition with thanksgiving, let your requests be known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your thoughts in Christ Jesus.

Philippians 4:6-7

Confess your offences to one another and pray for one another in order to be healed. The insistent prayer of a righteous person is powerfully effective!

James 5:16

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What is some /christian/ approved anime?

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HP Lovecraft fans?

Any other fans of HPL on /christian/?

I realize he was an atheist who hated Christianity, but I find most of his stories can be read as a warning against dabbling with the occult. Every one of his characters look for "secret knowledge" and it ends up destroying them every time.

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In progress school shooting in my area.

Please pray

http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/2018/01/23/shooting-marshall-county-high-school/

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Anti-natalism

What does /christian/ think of anti-natalism?

Ecclesiastes 4:2-3

Mark 14:21

Ive put some time of thinking about this and i concluded that Christians can be more prone to Anti-natalism than Atheists because if there really is no God as an atheist would say then its only logical to take control of nature and the world by ending all sentient beings and would be sentient beings by any means possible then finally ending itself.

As for the Christian view point we would just stop reproducing and let God sort what ever is left on Earth so in theory us Christian can be easily attracted to the argument of annihilation without actually doing the work.

We all know that life currently as it is always attached with suffering and silly desire we live with this as by default. We chase silly ambitions and lust as our main motivation.

In case you're wondering i'm not an Anti-natalist.

Share your thoughts and what

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Does anyone else feel like there's some force preventing them from believing?

I've browsed Christian before and grew up the child of a protestant minister, but fell away from the faith as a youth after getting in trouble for asking questions about the faith (that have been answered in some of the threads here, thanks) or expressing doubt.

It's difficult to explain how I feel, but I wonder if my experience of reality is just fundamentally different than the one required to believe. I've seen some of the explanations for the faith given here and read some Aquinas/Lewis, but I still cannot believe. It's not that I don't want to, but there's some sort of mental disconnect. It seems too good to be true, among other things, but the more I think about the vastness of infinity, the less I think there's any reason for there to be a "way out" or a reason anything matters.

I don't harbor any dislike toward Christians or members of any faith, but Christianity in particular is the only religion that this sort of odd sensation encompasses, like my mind just won't allow it to be entertained. Even religions I have less reason to consider are humored.

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Slavery was widespread throughout the Roman world, and yet Jesus never spoke against it.

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QTDDTOT

Didn't see a qtddtot in the catalog, so I'm creating one. I'll start it off with this question. Is sodomy between a man and a woman sinful?

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/CHRIST/IAN RELATIONSHIP INSPIRATION/MOTIVATION GENERAL v2

THE RESPONSIBILITY IS YOURS

As someone who is quite successful in finding a wife, seek to help my own sanity by keeping all the boohoo no-gf/waifu lamentations to one thread. You can't complain if you don't give it an honest try as anything is possible with God. I found my very own christ-chan, thank the Lord all the more for it, and seek to help you too.

SELF ESTEEM

is not the pride of life, we can't ever love someone else if we can't love ourselves as children and representatives of Christ.

>Get in shape.

>>>/fit/

In relation to the above, you can't be a slob and expect to attract a 10/10, as its indicative of entitlement and egocentrism. A strong body requires a strong mind. Learn what your TDEE is, make a goal weight, learn to love skim milk, and make a fitness plan that includes light cardio, goblet squats, and romanian deadlifts at the absolute minimum. The person who God has for you will appreciate it, encourage it, and join you.

>Be learned and confident in Christian doctrine

Be confident in what the bible says, and what's expected of you. A good marriage minded Christian will quiz you to see if you are legitimate in your beliefs or are just desperate for companionship. If you're a bible scrub, start with the minimum of proverbs, ecclesiastes, and the New Testament. Even at just one chapter a day, this should take you about 10 months to complete.

>Philosophies Fundamental to Our Faith

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivity_(philosophy)

We serve the eternal God, who is the very essence of Objectivity by virtue of being the creator who clearly defined the reality in which we live through His intelligent design.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asceticism#Christianity

In this reality, we are called to cast aside as much as possible whatever seperates us from worshipping and glorifying our Objective God for our salvation via His Son Jesus Christ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualism

Only Jesus can save us, but no one else is responsible for us as individuals in accepting Him as our Lord and Savior.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honesty

Defined as "fairness and straightforwardness of conduct" or "adherence to the facts." Take an honest assessment of yourself, your desires, faults, and make a plan to reach your desires by minimizing your faults. Reconcile that you will need to be just as honest about what you find to your potential mate.

GENERAL EXPECTATIONS

Match your desires with respectable traits. The following is the ideal you should aspire to, the expectation is that you look for a person who has the same shortcomings you do. It helps that you explicitly state that the following things are potential deal breakers depending on taste. feel free to copy and paste this to your dating profile as needed.

>No Degeneracy

Illicit drug and alcohol abuse are hedonistic by nature. No drinking is best, social drinking is acceptable but open to taste. Minimal secular media consumption limits the ability of the devil to work against your life and relationships via its nihilist/hedonist leanings.

KIK/SNAPCHAT USE and EXCESSIVE SELFIES/SOLIPSISM IS A HUGE RED FLAG.

>No body modifications

Tattoos, hair color changes and piercings are signs of self doubt, as the person doesn't believe that they are interesting enough on their own as representatives of a living God.

If you have them before salvation, understand that you potentially limit your dating pool.

>Sexual Responsibility

This is where we most fall. The modern secular media makes it difficult to resist. No sex until marriage shows respect not just to your partner but to yourself. No fapping.

Virginity/never married/no children is the ideal, but if you lack one of these, you potentially limit your dating pool.

>Sexual Roles

Dress and act respectfully in regards to biological sex.

-Men should have a sunday best for church (blazer, shirt, tie, slacks, and dress shoes), business and/or casual in general, and be assertive in regards to considering themselves, their woman, and the people important to each other.

-Women should enjoy wearing dresses and skirts in church and in public, use modest amounts of makeup and jewelry (if any), delight in submission, and earn respect of themselves from others.

>Church Attendance

At least once a month at the minimum. It is generally understood that people may have events that would keep them from church. To taste.

>Family Mindset

You both must want children and either desire or already have healthy relationships with family.

>Misc Demographics

Recommended height up to +/- 9in or 22.5cm, aged +/- 10 years from each other. To taste.

Similar body types, gym attendance rates, intellectual pursuits, income levels, race, etc.

OPPOSITES ATTRACT IS A MEME.

CONTINUES IN NEXT POST

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How can you have a woman as a priest!? That's absolutely ridiculous

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ITT: people you would have never known are Christian

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Orthodoxy

I'm thinking about becoming Orthodox, but I don't think there are any churches in my country. What do?

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Why did Islamic states stay so devout whilst the entirety of what was once Christendom completely rejected political Christianity?

It's depressing how they get a bunch of absolute monarchies and a theocracy in the >current year, while all we get are a bunch of bourgeois republics.

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Churches in Germany that aren't misguided/cucked

Hello fellow Christanons, I am in the process of conversion and plan to attend several sermons at different Protestant churches in order to find one that genuinely follows the scripture as close as it is realistically possible in The Current Year +3. Yesterday, I entered a Lutheran church and had a chat with a woman there. She let me know that I can come on Epiphany or on Sunday for the sermon, which is preached by a female preacher. If it weren't for the latter, I might've given it a shot but since they cannot follow one of the fundamental rules of the NT, why even bother?

Then I googled for a local church in my town, but I cannot help to avoid these also as soon as I read that they welcome refugees. Also, I am pretty sure they'd tolerate faggots in most, if not all churches. What options are left in Southern Germany? Did the once conservative/fundamentalist churches turn all their backs on the scripture and the fundamental beliefs, morals, and rules, which are crucial? And how do you, Christanons, bear with the state of your church in The Current Year +3?

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What's your opinion on Jack Chick/Chick Tracts?

I find his stuff funny even though it's obviously not intended to be, and I assume Roman Catholics here feel similarly

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Serious question for people more knowledgeable of scripture than me.

What does the Bible say about maximising the welfare of animals? I have a guilty conscience when I see an animal express what looks like agony after being severely injured, but as far as I'm aware they have no soul so Christians have no duty to them one way or the other.

So would there be any context where God wants a human to suffer for the benefit of animals? Is what would be the worst possible torture when applied to humans encouraged when instead applied to animals, provided that it adds to the welfare of one human?

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Evolution and Christianity

So I hear a lot of different explanations for this and it's one of my primary hangups pertaining to the faith.

How does human evolution fit into Christianity? From what I've heard (these aren't all from the same person, so they're separate points):

-Adam and Eve are metaphorical persons

-Adam and Eve were just the first two modern humans to have immortal souls and thus the common ancestors of current humanity

-Adam and Eve were the literal first two humans and the notion of humanity slowly developing over millions of years is a conspiracy

And something I've heard surprisingly recently from protestants where I live as of late:

-The entire OT is metaphorical/not a historical statement of anything, rather the NT only is.

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If God made the world then why Islam exists?

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The Canaanites Today

Hello everyone. I'm having trouble believing in a certain section of the Bible. For years, many believed that the Canaanites of old had been completely wiped out. Yet recently, genetic analysis has discovered that the modern population of Lebanon share over 90% of their ancient ancestry with that of the Canaanites, when comparing the Canaanite DNA from a tomb.

So if God commanded the Hebrews to annihilate the Canaanites, how can their descendants still exist? Or does the bible say that some survived?

Pic somewhat related from lebanons museum

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Untimely Death

If capital punishment is moral and should be enforced, in some situations, how are sinners supposed to be saved?

Gen 9:6 “Whoever sheds human blood, by humans shall their blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made mankind."

Yet 1 Timothy 2:4 God wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

How is a sinner supposed to get saved if a judge decides to end his life prematurely? Similarly how is a regular person, a seeker, supposed to be saved if their life is cut short by a murderer's axe before they can convert?

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The Truth - Orthodoxy or Catholicism?

Lately I've been drawn to Orthodoxy, and I want to confirm my thoughts. I agree with almost all of the doctrine of the denomination, though I have a couple of questions regarding some things. I am more familiar with Catholicism.

> inb4 muh orthodox aesthetics

It's not the aesthetics that make me drawn to Orthodoxy, though I can see why you would assume that. My family is majority Eastern Rite Catholic, and their aesthetics and liturgy are extremely close to Orthodoxy.

Can any of the Orthodox Christians here make a compelling argument for Orthodoxy? And Catholics, if you can refute these arguments or prove that the Catholic faith is the one true Church to me, then you're welcome to as well.

PLEASE. No sectarian fighting. Just provide your arguments and leave it at a casual level of bant if you need to.

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Christian Goals

Do you have any Christian-related or spiritual goals you want to achieve in life?

being a missionary, becoming a priest/monk, writing a great christian book, opening a theology shop..etc…I dunno, or just living a regular life and having a family?

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Art Thread

Share some classical works of Christian art why don't you?

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Do you think God stays in heaven because he, too, lives in fear of what he's created?

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Racism is not Christian

Racism is a sin, we are all created in the image of God. To hate one another based on how God created us is to hate the creator himself.

Yes God created the nations and the territories, however he did so that we could learn to know one another, not to hate one another.

THE KINGDOM OF GOD LIES WITHIN ALL MEN.

Hatred for each other based on race stands against God's message.

Christ came for ALL humanity, not just whites, or blacks, Jews or gentiles.

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Religions of the World Map

Is this mostly correct? The only mistake I can think of is that I labeled Canada as Catholic, when in reality the country has no majority denomination, but Catholic is simply the largest. Same with Lebanon, which could be labeled as Catholic or Sunni as well, but Shia is slightly larger.

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NoFap Thread

27 You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Matthew 5:27-28

19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 1 Corinthians 6:19

8 Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Galatians 6:8

Post your NoFap successes/woes/prayer requests/ etc.

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Protestants: Sins after salvation/baptism?

How do Protestants believe sins are forgiven after salvation/baptism without a confessor? I'm particularly interested in Lutheran, Anglican, and Calvinist perspectives, but others as well. Do you just pray to God for him to forgive you? Catholics have that too, it's called an act of contrition. We still believe we have an obligation to confess even after we are forgiven in an act of contrition. Do Protestants do this without the feel to confess? I heard a Baptist say that a believer is automatically forgiven of their sins after their saved, they don't even need to pray for forgiveness. Is this the view of some Protestants?

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Does anyone have those old ">decide to check out [x] church to see what all the fuss is about" memes?

I really liked them and used to have them all saved, but they're gone now

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Was Hyperborea Eden?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperborea

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March For Life 2018.

Who went?

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When did /christian/ grow out of /pol/?

When did you grow out of /pol/ and come to Christ, and why?

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Speaking in tongues

I already asked in the QTTDTOT-thread this question, but I want to see both sides to it: What's the deal with speaking in tongues? In 1. Corintians chapter 14 Paul says that he wishes that the members of the church may speak in tongues. I am discussing this topic with a friend of mine, who is in a church that practices this - in my opinion still unbiblical - practice and I disagree on speaking in tongues, or at least in the way they do it, which goes as every other charismatic church: everyone prays/speaks loudly in tongues who is "gifted" by the Holy Spirit, even the women, which goes against what Paul said. He said that only 2 to 3 men should practice it and then also translate it to the church, and, as everyone (should) know, it is a shame that a woman speaks in church. I'd like to read the opinions of supporters as well as opposers of speaking in tongues.

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Islam Vs Christianity 11

We're back from a long hiatus!

This is the eleventh iteration of the original megathread dedicated to discussion and education on Islam and Christianity.

Let's continue on for edification! All Islam related subjects come HERE

Last threads:

2: https://archive.is/OTokZ

3: https://archive.is/5Z9y5

4: https://archive.is/8NxNn

5: https://archive.is/kbWSe

6: https://archive.is/PmiUl

7: https://archive.is/S1CIp

8: https://archive.is/lz9la

9: https://archive.is/CgiJZ

10: https://archive.is/tBv0I

Recent Events:

- NYC jihad bomb failed (after previous success with truck) and "Trump Says Dems Will Help With Immigration Reform After NYC Attacks"

- ISIS Suicide Attack Kills at Least 20 in Kabul

- Egyptian Coptic Christians murdered in church and shop by jihadi gunman (which ISIS claims was theirs)

- Google, Twitter & other left-leaning companies continue to obfuscate, ignore or bury Islamic attacks (seriously, go look at the first page of results when searching "islamic attack")

- Sharia in UK still going https://archive.is/wdIMv

- Christians, Yazidi, Muslims continue to be hunted and persecuted

- Refugee Crisis continues, flooding rapes and violence abroad

Current MegaLink back-up for articles, videos, audio books and more: https://mega.nz/#F!9YB2EJ5A!mfVFn6AbXk9lBLM18V02Wg

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Wicked men in the last days...

What's that warning we should pay attention to about the prophecy of men of the days of satan's rule who repent not of the works of their hands, serving idols of gold, silver, brass, stone and wood which cannot see, hear nor walk?

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Catholic art thread.

Hello there I'm new to this board.

can we have a Catholic Art thread?

Paints, Sculptures, everything you got at hand, would be awesome to watch.

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Do the Oriental Orthodox have a central theologian like Aquinas for the Catholics and Palamas for the Eastern Orthodox?

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Can we have a confession thread?

I lit up a cig in my church's bathroom. Pic related

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Eastern Lightning/Church of The Almighty God

What's the deal with them?

Goypedia and a plethora of "Hip & Trendy" False Christians call them a cult and burgeoning terrorist organization, but all I can see is a group of persecuted christians trying to survive in the satanic hellhole that is China under the satanic Maoists.

Is this really an honest Christian group? Or are they just another blasphemous bunch of heretics like the Taipings of old?

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Is it wrong to listen to Death Grips?

I really like them. I like noise, industrial, experimental, electronic, and rap, and DG is all of that. However, a lot of their music is written in character as the beast from Revelation, and honestly I don’t know how to feel about that. Here are some lyric samples just from their first album, so you can see what I mean

>I close my eyes and seize it, I clench my fists and beat it, I light my torch and burn it, I am the beast I worship

>Worship is not on bended knee. Nature knows not of mercy. To pray is to accept defeat. Power pisses on the weak. Bow and beheaded by the beast

>Tie the chord, kick the chair and you're dead

>Head of a trick in a bucket, body of a trick in a bag, and thrown in the fire like fuck it, gotta burn it before it goes bad. One too many times been disgusted by the stench of rot is such a drag

>I fuck the music, I make it cum, I fuck the music with my serpent tongue

>Into the flame, into the fire with no regard for a thing, fuck that I'm the lord of the game. I rule this empire - I am the God of hell fire!

>Ten, nine, eight, seven, triple six, five, forked tongue

>Upside down cross on the Jumbotron - Wait up, hold on - Blowing anthrax off my palms say what, you're wrong

>Never seen without one hundred (she's a satanic priestess)

>Let them eat shit and die as I creep lit off the deep hits with a sick mind on the secrets I rely 'pon to freak this

>Long as it's done well, and they promise not to tell, We could do this like an orgy in the bowels of hell

That’s not even all of it, those are just select examples. Any thoughts on this?

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code monkeys

Is anyone here a fellow computer science major/software developer?

With the descent of our culture so aided by technology, it feels immoral to participate. What can we do?

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suicide

Why do people kill themselves? I never understood this mentality.

My close friend's brother killed himself recently, apparently no one knew he was having problems or depressed except a close friend. It just came as a complete shock.

I wanted to tell my friend that "he's with God now" or something along those lines…but I'm not sure what happens to people who suicide.

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'Jesus Wuz Arab!!' No

> 'hey! Catholic and orthodox art of Jesus is too white! Change it now!! He wuz an Arab!'

I've heard this argument before. Coming from an actual middle eastern Christian, I shall debunk it. But you should note that the ethnicity of Jesus hardly matters. In the end He would be our Lord even if He happened to be Korean.

First let's start off with the worst word on Earth:

> Arab

Total nonsense, because there is no Arab race. Arab refers to anyone from an Arabic speaking country. Does that make all Americans or Australians Englishmen for speaking it? Is Senegal a nation of Frenchmen? No, so 'arab' is meaningless. Egyptians for example aren't even Semitic, they're North African, so they can't be Arabs (especially the Copts). Most levantines aren't Arabs either (Lebanon, Syria, Palestine, Iraq). I myself am Lebanese. My people are tan or olive skinned Semitic people. We're clearly not white, but we are certainly not 'Arabs' from the Gulf who are as dark as Indians and have completely different features. Levantine people have an olive or even a slightly grey/yellow skin tone and Semitic features.

So to conclude, representations of a pale Jesus are probably accurate considering the Middle East is a very diverse place and that the Levant is full of Greek-looking Semites with light skin. The liberal argument of a Saudi style Jesus is nonsense. Again, race shouldn't really matter to a Christian, but I think it's nice to know what He likely looked like, and the people around Him.

Here's a few examples of fellow levantines

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For better it is that it be said unto thee, Come up hither; then that thou shouldest be put lower in the presence of the Prince whom thine eies have seene.

8Goe not forth hastily to strive, lest thou know not what to doe in the ende thereof, when thy neighbour hath put thee to shame.

9Debate thy cause with thy neighbour himselfe; and discover not a secret to another:

10Lest he that heareth it, put thee to shame, and thine infamie turne not away.

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Was Gillian from Snatcher a good Christian?

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Cross necklaces

What do you think about cross necklaces?

Do you wear one or not? If so, why, and if not, why not?

Should it be made of precious metals, wood or something else?

Should it be a plain cross or a crucifix?

Should you wear it openly or keep it obscured behind other clothing?

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Praying inbetween sets

Tfw after quitting drinking and fasting for two weeks I can finally do 15 pushups and while praying between sets I can feel my guardian angel's joy.

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Fasting

But the days will come when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them; and then they shall fast in those days. (Mark 2:20)

Hey /christian/, I believe the Lord has put into my heart that I need to go on a 3-day fast. Do you guys have any guidelines or advice on how to fast? What do you normally during a fast? What purpose am I really achieving here? What have your experiences been? I've read the Bible about two or three times and I'm really plan on getting into the Bible and work on my prayer life, but any tips, advice, or experiences are welcome. Thanks and God bless!

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Does anyone else really not like their church? I’m simply tired of going to the same place every Sunday and seeing the same people and saying the same things to said people. I live with my parents so I can’t go to a different church that I like. Anyone else feel this way?

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Novus Ordo

I've been attending a Tridentine Mass ever since I found one that was in my diocese. It's been about a year. I was afraid I was slipping into some sede-esque thought patterns, so I went to an NO Mass this morning. I would love some insight from some Catholics who have experience with both because there were some things that really turned me off that I had forgotten about and I'm not sure how to approach them with mercy and grace.

First, there is no silence either before or after Mass. I find this very, very distracting while praying.

Next, there is a small Congolese population in my area so their choir sang loud francophone hymns during the offertory and communion, which was also very distracting.

Also, I wasn't able to receive communion from a priest, but rather an extraordinary minister.

These three points led me to have some negative thoughts of anger and annoyance during Mass. I really want to avoid feeling that way. Can any of you Cathobros give me some insight into how you deal with Novus Ordo? I would like to attend both NO and TLM and feel the same reverence and beauty, but I am struggling…

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Hate as an ascetic instrument in spiritual life

I hope all of us Christians agree that hate is a feeling or state that is part of our human nature and that we should use it in certain situations as a weapon against sin or evil. I mean, a healthy Christian psyche should immediately start to hate evil e.g. when we see injustice. But if I am the one committing the sin. I can't hate myself because that would give me nothing, be counterproductive. So I theoretically should hate my sin. But how can I express my hate if I e.g. want to masturbate very badly? All the ascetic literature for laity I've read so far concentrates in this case on how I should pray it away. Of course, it is also stated that I should separate myself from the sin, but isn't hate "the spiritual blade" meant for that? I've noticed that while I artificially stimulate the hateful emotions and direct it against the sinful desire I feel this strange inner strength and calmness but I do not feel that inner peace that normally follows after I overcome the temptation. And it is nearly impossible to hate sin and to pray to our Lord and Savior Jesus at the same time because, for me, praying without humility in the heart is physically painful because I feel nothing at all. How can one keep in soul these two feelings: hate against the sin and humility before God at the same time? Is it even possible?

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Denominational Issues

Hello friends in Christ. I've been attending various Old Regular Baptist churches (a relatively obscure, local denom.) for several months now and I like many aspects of their doctrine and belief, but one major thing I cannot agree with: rapture and the afterlife. The idea that when you die you've "finished the race" and you're in glory land in the Heavenly realm with God; and when Jesus returns and the resurrection takes place, it's essentially just Jesus snatching you up into the Heavenly realm to live forever. I don't believe this. I don't believe the resurrection is about snatching you away into some spiritual plane to live forever. If that's the case, then the dead in Christ are essentially already resurrected because they're already in Heaven. Why would God resurrect their dead bodies and take them to Heaven if "they" are already in Heaven to begin with? It makes no sense and I think it's a lot of garbage. Why hope for a resurrection if you believe you've already been fully redeemed when you die and your spirit goes away with God? This is what essentially all Baptists around my area seem to believe (Freewill Baptists, United, Regulars etc.)

I was just talking to an anon about 1 Thess 4:17 in another thread and how that verse is the basis for this way of thinking about the resurrection and the afterlife. I linked him this, https://youtu.be/TJyVLm-tuCg , video in which NT Wright discusses the verse and "debunks" it's popular American protestant interpretation of a rapture.

What denomination should I join? I don't see myself staying here long term because this is a serious disagreement imo. Not open to joining Orthodox or Catholic churches, already researched them fully and disagree with many things.

Anyone is free to share their thoughts on the matter.

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Church Vans

I have never been in a church with a van. What are they used for? I see them driving around every so often.

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can catholics pray to the destroying angel?

not very serious question, but since catholics can pray to angels, is it doctrinally sound to pray to abaddon for intercession.

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Purgatory

How did the RCC come up with the teaching of purgatory? thanks

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Losing faith in Orthodoxy

AAAAAAGH

Why are we such a tiny minority in this country? (US) Why do I have to explain everything about my "Eastern/Greek Orthodox religion" to pretty much everybody, including my own family? Why didn't I just get my Catholic confirmation instead of getting chrismated at a church that no matter how much I explain it, it's still foreign to my (lapsed Catholic) family members? How can I be the light in their lives that could help and inspire them to live a life in Christ if they see my faith as some obscure hobby of sorts?

Why would Jesus allow his one true church to be so ethnically divided along with an ugly jurisdictional mess? Why would Jesus allow his one true church to come to no agreement about calendars and that whole toll house thing? Why would Jesus allow his one true church to be so pisspoor at evangelizing?

I don't care about the filioque, but I'm growing increasingly disappointed that we don't have a unifying Pope figure who happens to be the direct successor to the Prince of the apostles on top of a generally richer theological/philosophical tradition as the Catholics do. also tfw no single orthoqts of reasonable age

Orthobros, what should keep me Orthodox instead of Catholic? Catholics, how badly do I need to convert?

The main things preventing me from converting is that despite their varying ranges of confusion, my family still felt very proud of me when they saw me chrismated just last month and I fear that if I have to convert back to Rome, I can't even imagine what kind of feelings they would have at my confirmation. More importantly, I already have Orthodox godparents now and they already love me as godparents should. God knows how they would feel.

I just don't know, man. Help a brother out.

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Are we in the end of days?

Will the rapture be soon?

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Orthodoxy by the Numbers

What are the actual statistics of the Orthodox faith? I don't mean any specific one of the many churches, but the total population of those considered orthodox. Most studies say around 270million as Eastern Orthodox. But when you include Oriental Orthodoxy (Middle East, North Africa, East Africa) that number jumps up to 356million.

Does anyone have anything to confirm that? And on top of that, what are the statistics for Orthodox growth in non-orthodox majority countries. I know for an example there is a steady growth in the US, where nearly half of all Orthodox christians were converts from protestantism or catholicism.

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F

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Christian Opinion on Physical Exercise

Hello, I have been searching the webs on this topic, but I can't find good information. So I came here to ask, what is your opinion on physical exercise? Should a Christian do Physical Exercise, e.g going to the gym.

I'm asking this, because I've seen how some people go to the gym to get "gains"etc, and in a certain way they commit idolatry for their own bodies, and this leaves me confused if I should frequent a gym or not (specially taking in account that some ladies go there dressed in a very immodest way). God bless!

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>town where everyone commits sodomy

>named sodom

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What to do

I've been going to an orthodox for many months now and enjoy it. I've became integrated into the community, speak with the priests every week, attend cathechisms, etc. I felt at home there and grew in Christ. However today I went to a big catholic basilica and I just got struck out of the blue by a crisis of "faith" (denomimation). I saw all the beauty, the huge crowd of people praying, crying, and I just asked myself: why am I not catholic? Surely beauty is a way to God no? I don't know why but I was shaken in my heart and I am not sure that Orthodoxy is actually for me.

Was it just a e s t h e t i c? Or a message from God? Can I ever be catholic and not believe in the infaillibility of the pope? What about purgatory and shit? Help a brother, I feel lost. I would also feel like I am betraying my orthodox community which I grew close to

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Homily thread (1/21)

It's that time of the week again. Post today's readings for your church, and what the homily was about.

Today's readings:

1 Timothy 4:9-15

>This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance. For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe. These things command and teach. Let no one despise your youth, but be an example to the believers in word, in conduct, in love, in spirit, in faith, in purity. Till I come, give attention to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. Do not neglect the gift that is in you, which was given to you by prophecy with the laying on of the hands of the eldership. Meditate on these things; give yourself entirely to them, that your progress may be evident to all.

Luke 19:1-10

>Then Jesus entered and passed through Jericho. Now behold, there was a man named Zacchaeus who was a chief tax collector, and he was rich. And he sought to see who Jesus was, but could not because of the crowd, for he was of short stature. So he ran ahead and climbed up into a sycamore tree to see Him, for He was going to pass that way. And when Jesus came to the place, He looked up and saw him, and said to him, “Zacchaeus, make haste and come down, for today I must stay at your house.” So he made haste and came down, and received Him joyfully. But when they saw it, they all complained, saying, “He has gone to be a guest with a man who is a sinner.” Then Zacchaeus stood and said to the Lord, “Look, Lord, I give half of my goods to the poor; and if I have taken anything from anyone by false accusation, I restore fourfold.” And Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because he also is a son of Abraham; for the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost.”

Today's homily:

Zaccheus was a man who, even while being a sinner, thirsted to see Christ and to welcome Him in his house. He may have been short-statured, but he "grew" by climbing a tree. In this pre-Lenten period, we must do the same: grow in faith so that we may actively will to truly see our Lord and to welcome Him in the house of our heart, so that, like Zaccheus, we may say that we give out freely half of our goods, whether these goods are our personal belongings, our smile, or our knowledge acquired at church.

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How to get Pagan friend to return to the faith?

I have a Pagan friend who is really into new age stuff and Wicca and Druid Paganism as well as some aspects of Hinduism and Buddhism. She describes herself as "spiritual" but not religious. She believes in pantheism and reincarnation. She also attempts to contact the dead and worships their spirits and celebrates many Pagan rituals and celebrates Druid Pagan holidays. Thing is, she was raised in a very devout Catholic household. But she told me that religion was "shoved down her throat" because she was "forced" to go to church/Mass, and "forced" to go to confession, and "forced" to pray the Rosary among other things. Just talking about it "triggers" her she told me. We got into a big debate over it. She told me that the Bible is the biggest lie in history and that all of it was made up to control people. She told me that truth is relative and that you should believe whatever makes you happy, and if it makes you happy, then it's true. It was very hard to debate because she wasn't being rational in anyway and kept moving the goal post. How do I help bring someone very lost back into the fold?

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I need help

If God is all-knowing and knows what is going to happen in the future, then he knows what kind of people everyone will turn out to be before he creates them. He knows that a serial rapist/murder will do those things before he creates them. He knows the pain they will inflict upon innocent people before he creates them. He knows he will have to damn their soul to eternal hell before he creates them. He knows the being he is creating will be tortured for all of eternity for the things it will do. So why does he create them?

I know that questioning him like this is wrong but I can't help it. These thoughts will not leave my mind. I have a nature that requires me to question things like this. I've been this way since I was a kid. Why would be create me to be this way and then punish me for being what he created me to be? That seems wrong. I can't understand it.

If I create an artificially intelligent computer virus that will infect and destroy any computers it comes across and then I release it in a hospital and it results in many deaths… am I not responsible for those deaths? How is that different from creating a serial killer and releasing it in this world?

If God doesn't know these things will happen before he creates a person then he isn't all knowing. You can't know the future without seeing what people will do. I don't see how God could not know these things without him not actually being a full, true God. How can a being capable of creating life, flooding the earth, etc. not know these things? I feel like if God exists then he can't be a loving, benevolent being and create us to be what are.

I'm really struggling with my faith and going insane here anons. Can you help me?

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BiblePay: Christian Cryptocurrency

Hi everyone. I'm sure you've all heard about the cryptocurrency craze sweeping the world right now. A lot of people don't understand what cryptocurrency is yet. As a medium of exchange, cryptocurrencies have the potential to decentralize the global financial system (at least to a degree–which is huge!) /christan/ should be interested because the book of Revelation foretells that during the end times, no person on earth will be able to buy or sell without receiving the mark of the beast; this shows you how important a means of exchange is. While it is not possible to change that prophesy, it is possible to protect your financial security and privacy before the end times.

We can see that Christians are being persecuted all over the world. Unfriendly governments, such as the Chinese Communist Party or Islamic governments, restrict Christians' ability to exchange information and to conduct commerce. This is where crpytocurrency comes into play. Christians can use BiblePay to do things like support churches in persecuted regions through commerce (ex. buying handmade icons from Coptic churches in Egypt; sending a Chinese church copies of Bibles or soul-winning materials in exchange for BBP tokens under the radar) or donation. BiblePay is a blockchain developed by Christians; it is similar to others such as bitcoin at its core, but differs in that it is 1) ASIC/GPU mining resistant (which means its possible to profitably mine on your home computer and it is not as profitable to construct large mining farms, thereby encouraging decentralization) and 2) a tithe of all coins mined is automatically donated to charity. Specifically the BBP development team chose to donate to a charity that supports orphans.

I wanted to spread the word here because I know some of you guys might be interested. Disclaimer: I am not a developer and I cannot answer many technical questions. However the developers are easily accessible on the BiblePay forums and on Reddit. Right now this is still a small project and I encourage everyone to get in on it. At this point you don't even need to spend money on it; you can really easily set it up to mine coins in the back ground for free while you're using your computer. Its also perfectly acceptable to use BBP purely as a speculative endeavor; even if you make money, every action you perform (mining, trading, etc) supports the network and also results in charitable donations.

Links for those interested:

https://biblepay.org/

http://forum.biblepay.org/

https://www.reddit.com/r/BiblePay/

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Would you still have become Christian?

I have a question for you all, to test if you truly believe on Christ with your own hearts. The majority of you are Western on this forum, especially Americans and Europeans. In America and Europe, Christianity is the dominant faith by far, and while it originated in the Middle East, it has adapted to European culture while in Europe. Therefore, the religion doesn't seam very outlandish or alien to most of you, culturally.

On the other hand, Christians in the Middle East are surrounded by Muslims and a heavy Arab culture, and have to actively choose to deny it in favor of a more ancient aramean culture. Christians in China have 0 connection to the cultures of the West, yet they actively choose to become Christian.

So my question to all of you is:

> If you had not been born in a Christian or Western nation, do you have confidence you would have still found the Lord?

This is especially aimed at the cultural Christians I see on this forum who are only catholic because muh roman crusade, or orthodox because muh Slav.

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WEBM Thread

Haven't had one of these in a while.

Post 'em.

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What does Anderson know that he's hiding?

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Going to Mass

So, I’ve read up on Catholicism and been to Mass a few times, but I didn’t grow up in the Church and I missed Cathecism this year, meaning I can’t give confession or take communion. I’d like to do both, but I was told that I can’t yet. I’d like to go just for social reasons, but I have to watch my 8 month old by myself that day because my wife works on Sunday and he’s such a squirmy guy it’s a huge pain and I miss most of it by taking him outside to calm down. It makes me feel frustrated and I just don’t go. Thoughts?

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icelandmag.visir.is/article/00-icelanders-25-years-or-younger-believe-god-created-world-new-poll-reveals

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Equality is anti-Christian

Equality is a sin, we are all created in the image of God, but we are not created equal. To hate one another based on where God put us is to hate God Himself.

Yes God created the nations and the territories, classes and hierarchies, however he did so that we could learn to know and love God, not to hate, oppress and murder one another.

THE KINGDOM OF GOD LIES WITHIN ALL MEN.

It's not a democracy of God. Democracy is against hierarchy, a divine virtue with which God rules with.

We may not be worthy of being kings and monarchs, or even aristocracy, but we have in us the potential to bring it about.

Hatred for each other based on class stands against God's message. The last century or so has seen the end of traditional monarchies and classes, to create equal beings; replaceable workforce. Similarly, when we are 'equal before God', you should not forget that God can replace us with rocks.

Hierarchy is what separates man from animal, and animal from rock. Yet of course, from other men. Some are more animal than others, especially the lower classes are more banal and instinct driven.

Christ came for ALL humanity, not just men, women or slaves.

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/bane/ stream habbening tonight

Sorry that this is completely off topic, I just thought I'd let the good denizens of /christian/ know that /bane/ will be hosting a movie stream starting at 4 PM EST, today, January 20th and we'd love for you guys to be there. We'll be over at https://cytu.be/r/BaneWatches

For more information

>>>/bane/137761 (sorry for the heretical OP image)

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How would you react if you caught this guy red-handed?

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JESUS IS MY ONII-CHAN

Post ITT if you love your onii-chan, Jesus (Hebrews 2:11, Romans 8:29).

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Who do you guys think is the most important apostle, Paul or Judas?

On the one hand, Christianity would not be nearly as large as it is today, or even exist, if it weren't for Paul's efforts, but on the other, the passion may not have even happened if it weren't for Judas' kiss of death.

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Give me the rundown on statistics

I need statistics on the Catholic pedo abuse scandals, is it really that bad? How bad compared to the other denoms? Not trolling I want to convert a friend but he's adamant about this

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The legitimacy of Catholicism

As you anons can tell from my flag, I am a Catholic. What I am facing however, as I'm sure you other Catholic anons have before, is the problem of legitimacy of the Catholic Church. I know of the verse where Jesus tells Peter that he is the rock upon which Christ will build his Church, but does that really signify the Church that we see today? Is Francis an illegitimate pope? Ratzinger stepped down, and we all know that makes Francis' papacy null. Should I become a tradcath? I am having many problems with faith guys, and I was hoping some of you would help clear things up.

Anyone is welcome.

Thanks.

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Does someone here have recommendations of good Christian movies?

Lately I've been really interested in christian movies, but they're quite rare in these degenerate and herectic times we live in. Almost all of the films that are released these days contains some kind of heresy to them, be it samesex relationships or 'casual sex', this is quite unfortunate but sometimes we can find some gems out there. Those are the ones I already know:

>The biggest christian director nowadays is, most likely, Mel Gibson, and he really does a good job when creating them. I really enjoyed The Passion and Hacksaw Ridge.

>Tarkovsky is another one I already know of, not all of his movies are centered around the christian faith, but he was really religious as his diaries shows. Andrey Rublev is a masterpiece.

>"The Nun's Story" and "A Man for All Seasons", both by Zinnemann, both absolutely fantastic, especially the latter.

>Ben Hur and Quo Vadis, both classics

>Joan of Arc by Victor Fleming, really good

>The Priests (korean movie), I watched that expecting something bad but it was really really good, the director has some extensive knowledge on catholicism, I'll keep an eye for more of his future movies

>Ignatius Press' movies, most of them are biographical, about the lives of the saints, they're not masterpieces but I found some rather interesting and the others were at the very least informative about the lives of those great people that once lived in this world and dedicated their lives to God. (you can find them here: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dmovies-tv&field-keywords=Ignatius+Press)

Those are all I've watched, really wanted to know more about those movies, but they seem really rare. Do you guys have some recommendations?

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Sola Fide - In False Religions

Is there any concept of salvation by faith alone in the heathen religions of Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Shinto, Bahai, Paganism, etc?

Do these lost souls all believe they have to work their way to their afterlife paradises?

Is Sola Fide something unique to Christianity?

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Christian chan

Are there any truly Christian chans yet that are devoted to Christ?

If not, how would that work? Could we see 8chan becoming this in the near future?

Would it be better as text-only, or just a regular imageboard? Or maybe a small selection of pre-selected images just to fill the gap?

What boards would you want to see on a Christian chan?

eg.

/prayer/

/bible/

/church/

/family/

/confess/

..etc.

Should it harness all the internet tech that's out there for preventing posting of things such as porn?

Should it be funded entirely by crypto currency, to avoid the need for adverts? Perhaps it could even piggy-back on those networks for extra juice when filtering out content.

I dunno, just a thought.

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Orthodoxy

Can any Orthodox Christians here explain some of the church doctrine basics of Orthodoxy compared to Catholicism? At the same time, could you explain the reasons why the Orthodox Church is correct, and why you chose to begome?

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2x1SmJerv4

vid related, orthodox choir from my country

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Christianity Growing

I personally believe that when people become lax, lazy, and comfortable, they forget Christ. In the West, we see this clearly.

However, when faced with persecution or suffering, faith in Christ grows exponentially. While the West may be degenerate and sliding into decadence, the Old World will be the hope for Christianity.

> China

The world's most populated country. Here, already 75million Chinese and growing, have accepted Christ. The more the communist government oppresses, the more Christians are found within the people.

> Indonesia

With no connection to Arab nationalism, Indonesians already feel out of place being in a heavily Arabized faith. At the current rate of conversion, 2million per year, Indonesia may become Christian by 2040.

> Iran

This may come as a shock, but the rate of conversion amongst Muslims to Christianity is exponential in Iran. People tire of the Islamic regime's disgusting cruelty, and their massacre of Christian villages even outside of Iran. The current protests could lead to the downfall of Islamic Iran. If this happens, the millions of underground Christians will be publicly safe to practice their faith. Estimates range from 2-3.7million Christians in Iran so far. I have a few Persian friends and they can attest that Christianity is spreading like wildfire there.

Pray for these nations to become with Christ. I know they can do it!

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Why is not believing in Christianity an evil thing in your opinion? The human mind is extremely complex, and it's affected by a lot of variables outside of our control, that being the case it seems to me that is natural and expected that some humans reject a certain ideology and religion.

I don't believe in Christianity myself for both intellectual and moral reasons. I don't see it like malice, like "you in your heart you're wrong, but you decide to not believe anyway!!". No, I just go with makes more sense to me. I don't claim to be a big intellectual, or that I have flawless moral values, but I do what I can. And you Christians are the same in my opinion, you just do what makes more sense to you, we just interpret information in a different way.

Discuss.

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Why is Czech republic so nonreligious? How could it happen?

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A quarter of non-believers pray when faced with a crisis

>Non-believers call on God when faced with a crisis - despite insisting they're not religious

>A third of people pray in the morning or before they go to sleep. People are also increasingly likely to solicit support from God while cooking or exercising.

>And one in five pray while doing household chores while 15 per cent pray while they commute.

>A strong 42 per cent of prayers thanked God, while 40 per cent asked for healing and another 40 per cent included mention of friends.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5267485/A-quarter-non-believers-pray-faced-crisis.html

Is atheism just a meme and are most people just really lazy Christians?

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Desire and Impermanence

Hello, can someone help me understand the ideas of desire and the inherent impermanence of all things from a Christian POV? Christianity is always going on about praise and joy in creation, but from my own experience, praise and joy don't and can't last permanently. It's moment-to-moment sensual experiences that cause us to feel happy and good, but they go away and we begin to search for some other source to feeling good again. It's an endless cycle of want and desire. I agree that joy, love, and peace are the greatest things in existence, but they don't really last. All things die and are impermanent.

tldr; how can you refute the main presumptions and conclusions of Buddhism via a Biblical understanding of divinity and salvation?

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How do you feel about parts of the bible like this? What do you say to non-believers who cite things like this as reasons for rejecting christianity?

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+31%3A17-18&version=KJV

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How accurate is this?

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Everyday, I wake up as a different denomination. Committing to one interpretation is difficult. Anyone else feel like this?

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I love god.

God is good.

God helps me think.

God makes this world great.

I fear God.

I love god.

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my gf of 6 months told me she wants to "take a break" and told me she realized soul searching in therapy she's "bisexual". I think her therapist had some influence on this. She seemed so sure that she wanted to marry me just a couple weeks ago, and she always had strong faith, but now she asked if God made her to date women and asked me if God loves her. She's really unsure about everything and is talking to her therapist on thursday.

What should I do? Should I wait for her or leave her?

Also please pray that she'll make the right decision and be drawn back to God, and pray for God to heal my broken heart.

Sorry for the blog post, just having trouble right now

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What is wrong with Steven Anderson?

http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/transcript_nakedness.html

>We need to make sure that when we go swimming our swim trunks go down to the knee and cover us up

>If it’s a one piece swimsuit you’re showing your nakedness.

>Would you want to be naked in front of your 10 year old son? Of course not. That would be obscene, wouldn’t it?

>Women who breastfeed their children they’re 8, 10, 12, 14 year old son

I have several questions here:

What's wrong with going swimming naked? It's been considered perfectly normal for the vast majority of history, there is nothing immodest or inappropriate about taking of your clothes to go swimming

(I agree with him on swimsuits, but there is nothing wrong with being naked while swimming, being naked on the beach is another thing as is """sunbathing""" in degenerate and immodest clothing)

What's wrong with being naked around your family? They're your own family, for Christ's sake. There's nothing wrong with this, unless you have some severe incestuous thoughts.

Who on earth breast feeds their 14 year old children? That is wildly inappropriate, sick, it's completely injustifiable, it's just disgusting. How can you possibly justify this? It's several orders of magnitude worse than anything else mentioned in the sermon, including being naked in public. Is this considered normal in the US? What the fuck?

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I miss him, bros.

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So I came for advice, mostly because it's about a person who is a Christian. I'm an atheist and have been so since I was 17 and am 27 now. I used to be a Seventh Day Adventist, and while I still do a lot of the SDA things in the community, and volunteer to help, mostly because I know these people and we help each other.

However, I recently started dating this girl. She's five years my junior, and she quite likes me, and I like her. The problem is that she thinks I'm still a church-going Christian, and I don't know how to break it to her without it feeling like I tricked her or something.

So what I'm asking is, how would you like someone to approach you about this if you were the girl? She seems to be the more religious type, and while I'm fine with her dumping me over this, I don't want her to think I was deceiving her and simply that we had a misunderstanding.

Pic unrelated. Least offensive one I had.

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Meme thread

New meme thread because the old one is autosaging, starting with a request: I need the exploitable 8ch logo, have this crop in return

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Who wins? Happy Jesus or Pissed off Jesus?

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Why do not you like the concept of dualism?

He answers all the questions about the nature of evil.

I'm not a Gnostic!

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olga_of_Kiev

>buried people alive

>burned people alive

>enslaved people

>saint

Really causes one to ponder.

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Pope Accuses Clergy Sex Abuse Victims Of Slander

Courtesy of /pol/:

http://archive.is/91I0R

>Chilean sex abuse victims of a pedophile priest were stunned Thursday when Pope Francis accused them of slander.

>The pope’s visit to Chile was supposed to begin a healing process between the Catholic Church and the victims of Rev. Fernando Karadima. Instead, Francis accused the victims of slandering a bishop they claimed had protected the priest, The Associated Press reported.

>“The day someone brings me proof against Bishop Barros, then I will talk,” Francis told ADN radio before celebrating mass near the Chilean city of Iquique. “But there is not one single piece of evidence. It is all slander. Is that clear?”

>The church is losing its influence in the nation, Reuters reported. A new poll by Santiago-based think tank Latinobarometro showed that the number of Chileans calling themselves Catholics fell from 74 percent in 1995 to 45 percent last year.

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Fr. Joshua Neu explains why Catholics call their priests "father."

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Adam To Joseph Longevity Chart

Pretty interesting.

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Why

Why do you guys believe in god? I'm not saying this to troll it just confuses me!

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The McMartin Trials/"Satanic Panic" from the 1980s

In the wake of all that is happening regarding many celebrities being outed as abusers of children almost everyday, alongside the earlier revelations such as Pizzagate, what does /christian/ have to say about the daycare abuse scandals of the 1980s and early 1990s? This and something like Pizzagate were both heavily chastised and discredited by the media yet a large number of people believe these topics to be a real issue, so what do you guys think? Was there really any Satanic elements to the McMartin trial or any similar happenings in the 80s?

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Steven Anderson

He has a huge superiority complex and actually thinks he has the authority to interpret Scripture in any ways he wants, that's why you've got so much weird stuff coming from him. He also calls himself a prophet.

Honestly, people give him too much attention. He's just like Westboro Baptist Church, where they throw anger tantrums and scream about homosexuals and people watch them. Except, most people are just laughing at people like Anderson.

tl;dr: he's a crazy guy who isn't worth your attention, I suggest tuning in to people like

(1) Bishop Barron (https://www.youtube.com/user/wordonfirevideo/videos)

(2) Father Ripperger (https://www.youtube.com/user/onearmsteve4192/videos)

(3) Father Schmitz (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVdGX3N-WIJ5nUvklBTNhAw/videos)

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There you have it, folks. A complete agreement by the infamous Dr.James White, with the statement that he is in fact a member (if no the Superior General) of the Society of Jesus. Also known as a Jesuit.

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What podcasts does /christian/ listen to? I’m looking to get into some new stuff.

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Help me please /christian/

I always had escapism and it get worst by the time. I always failed to enjoy the flat routine of the occidental society. Currently I'm an anime/vidya/shitpost/and other fucked up shit degenerate.

My spiritual father told me in order to prove myself there is more interest IRL I need to make something "big"/"fool". He said I need to flee feminized and bourgeoise society (I'm from France). Seems the answer is to flee in a foreign traditional country in order to find an adventure to serve the church and good communities.

What should I do, /christian/ ? Do you have any idea ? Please answer even if you have no idea, it would help me to know I'm not crying in a desert.

>pic isn't me

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I love you God…Jesus…I may not understand much about you…your teachings but I have faith that you will make this world great…that I will live a Christian lifestyle..I will not dabble in occultic teachings as much as I enjoy the magick portion of it…I still love my transgender gf and I'm conflicted about dating her..I will teach her the word of the Lord however…

Jesus I surrender myself to you..tell me how to live Christlike..I love you..

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Witnessing to Mormons

Mormons came to my door today, and I'd like some advice on how to witness to them. I realize they'll just be told to cut off contact after too many questions are asked, but I'm hoping to plant the seed of Christ's truth.

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Lutheran or Catholic

Help me decide between the two. I'm really torn between lutheranism (the traditional religion of my people) and catholicism (cool, mysterious and A E S T H E T I C)

Arguments are good from both sides as well.

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>german state tv teaching kids about God

>oh neat..lets see where this goes

>…oh Lord…

This is what German tax payers are paying for and exposing their kids to.

rage

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Diakonesses

Women shouldn't be priests but I think we should restore the ancient practice of having deaconesses. Wouldn't it be right?

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I had a dream...

I had an oddly biblical dream, what could it mean? In the dream, the ground was grey and I guess kinda rocky, and I heard a voice say, "Don't kill unless it be a snake." I then saw a Bible verse appear flashing, it was Deuteronomy 5:4. As soon as I woke up, I went to my Bible to look up the verse to see what it says and I found this,

>The LORD spoke to you face to face out of the fire on the mountain.

>Deuteronomy 5:4

Did God speak to me? What's the meaning?

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Is anyone else going to March for Life on Friday?

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Scandinavia

Can we have a Scandinavian thread?

Would like to hear what is your

>country

>denom

>thoughts on the current state of your country

>mig

>Danmark

>Luthersk-evangelisk, overvejer at skifte til katolicismen (Tror jeg hælder mere imod Ortodoks, men der er ingen kirker indenfor en time hvor jeg bor)

>folkekirken er lort som sædvanlig, men jeg føler der er en fremgang af Kristendommen i Danmark.

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Mary: The Mother of God

Dr. Tamisiea explains why Catholics call Mary "the Mother of God" or "theotokos."

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Christian Nation

I am sick of hearing about Christians being murdered in the Middle East. Churches being bombed in China. Christians being raped in South Africa. Christianity being reduced to a virtue signaling club in the West. I long for a Christian state. Not a secular liberal democracy that shakes its feet at the notion of standing for something.

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What must I do to be saved?

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What is God?

Not a trick question, this is a general discussion that I think has been greatly missed.

We have had everyone from the media to atheists to pastors and bishops pontificate on the existence of God.

Yet not one fucking person has seemed to take the time to elucidate what God is supposed to be.

It's like fighting about how there are spoons in the drawer with an edgelord that insists all spoons are actually sporks and therefore there are no spoons in the fucking drawer.

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Hey /christian/...

I've been lurking here for a long time. Am I really the only Assyrian on this board?

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Baptist General

SALVATION

John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

John 6:28-29 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

The Bible Way to Heaven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDEBz25lGdY

INDEPENDENT FUNDAMENTAL BAPTIST SERMONS

"King Saul & the Old IFB"

https://youtu.be/FIGpF12snU4

"Feminism in light of the Bible"

https://youtu.be/ruFnghl4W6E

"Antichrist Bible Versions"

https://youtu.be/SEXmPB-ksEM

PSALM 23

1 Bless the Lord, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name.

2 Bless the Lord, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:

3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;

4 Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with lovingkindness and tender mercies;

5 Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's.

6 The Lord executeth righteousness and judgment for all that are oppressed.

7 He made known his ways unto Moses, his acts unto the children of Israel.

8 The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy.

9 He will not always chide: neither will he keep his anger for ever.

10 He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.

11 For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him.

12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.

13 Like as a father pitieth his children, so the Lord pitieth them that fear him.

14 For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust.

15 As for man, his days are as grass: as a flower of the field, so he flourisheth.

16 For the wind passeth over it, and it is gone; and the place thereof shall know it no more.

17 But the mercy of the Lord is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;

18 To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them.

19 The Lord hath prepared his throne in the heavens; and his kingdom ruleth over all.

20 Bless the Lord, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.

21 Bless ye the Lord, all ye his hosts; ye ministers of his, that do his pleasure.

22 Bless the Lord, all his works in all places of his dominion: bless the Lord, O my soul.

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What kind of relationship do you have with your father?

How did this damage conception of God?

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Behold what the fruits of Atheism & Paganism done to Western Europe

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Christian feels thread

>mfw when im standing in church next to my my crush

>starting singing hymns

>she sings beautifully

>she makes notes during sermon

>realize you have no hope ever getting such a godly woman

why even live?

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>mormons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Potter

>Arnold Potter (January 11, 1804 – April 2, 1872) was a self-declared Messiah and a leader of a schismatic sect in the Latter Day Saint movement. Potter referred to himself as Potter Christ.

>Potter was born in Herkimer County, New York. At age 19, he married Almira Smith. By 1835 Potter had moved with his wife and children to Switzerland County, Indiana. On November 10, 1839, Potter and his family were baptized by missionaries of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

>In April 1840, Potter and his family moved to Nauvoo, Illinois, to join the main gathering of Latter Day Saints. On April 24, 1840, Potter was given the Melchizedek priesthood and ordained to the priesthood office of elder by Joseph Smith. On June 1, 1840, Potter received a patriarchal blessing from church patriarch Joseph Smith, Sr. Potter settled in Sand Prairie, Iowa, where he was the presiding elder of the church. In January 1845, Potter became a seventy in the church.

>In 1848, Potter traveled to the Salt Lake Valley as a Mormon pioneer. By 1856, he had moved from Utah Territory to San Bernardino, California. On March 16, 1856, Potter received a call to serve as a missionary in Australia from LDS Church president Brigham Young. Later that year, Potter left California for Australia on the ship Osprey.

>Potter later claimed that during his trip to Australia, he underwent a "purifying, quickening change" whereby his own spiritual body, called "Christ", entered into his body and he became "Potter Christ, Son of the living God". During his time in Australia, Potter wrote a book which he said was dictated to him by angels; it was described by Potter as the book from which all people were to be judged at the Final Judgment.

>Potter returned to California by October 1857. A Latter-day Saint observer described Potter's re-appearance in the community:

>Wednesday 21 October 1857—Arnold Potter, who calls himself Potter Christ, appeared in our streets today with a brand on his forehead which had been put in with India ink. The words which can be read at quite a distance, are "Potter Christ—The Living God—Morning Star". To the right of the inscription is a star, below a cross. He appears very desirous of winning followers. It is said there are several apostates about to join him.[1]

>By 1861, Potter and some of his followers had left California with the intention of settling near Independence, Missouri, the traditional location of Zion for the Latter Day Saints. They settled at Saint Marys in northwest Mills County, Iowa. When Saint Marys was destroyed by flooding in 1865, they moved to Council Bluffs, Iowa. Potter spent his days wandering the streets in Council Bluffs wearing a long white robe and became a local oddity. Potter's followers in Council Bluffs were described as "few but devout". The men wore black robes and the women eschewed normal grooming practices. Potter and his followers held enthusiastic prayer meetings which would often culminate in Potter declaring a new revelation from God.

>In 1872, Potter announced at a meeting of his church that the time had come for his ascent into heaven. Followed by his disciples, Potter rode a donkey to the edge of the bluffs, whereupon he leapt off the edge intending to "ascend," but instead fell to his death. His body was collected and buried by his followers.[2]

JUST

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Hey, I'm an atheist who is looking to convert back to Christianity. But I need some reason to believe in God. Can you give me something solid so that I can believe in God? Please? (Not trying to troll)

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How do each of you pray each day?

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/CHRIST/IAN RELATIONSHIP INSPIRATION/MOTIVATION GENERAL v1

THE RESPONSIBILITY IS YOURS

I, as someone who is quite successful in finding a wife, seek to help my own sanity by keeping all the boohoo gf/waifu lamentations to one thread. You can't complain if you don't give it an honest try. Anything is possible with God. In just 3 months I managed to find my very own christ-chan and thank the Lord all the more for it and seek to inspire you too.

SELF ESTEEM

is not pride. We can't ever love someone else if we can't love ourselves as children and representatives of Christ.

>Get in shape.

>>>fit

In relation to the above, you can't be a slob and expect to attract a 10/10, as its indicative of entitlement and egocentrism. A strong body requires a strong mind. Learn what your TDEE is, make a goal weight, learn to love skim milk, and make a fitness plan that includes light cardio, goblet squats, and romanian deadlifts at the absolute minimum. The person who God has for you will appreciate it, encourage it, and join you.

>Be learned and confident in Christian doctrine

Be confident in what the bible says, and what's expected of you. A good marriage minded Christian will quiz you to see if you are legitimate in your beliefs or are just desperate for companionship. If you're a bible scrub, start with the minimum of proverbs, ecclesiastes, and the New Testament. Even at just one chapter a day, this should take you about 10 months to complete.

>Fundamental Philosophies Inherrent to Our Faith

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivity_(philosophy)

We serve the eternal God, who is the very essence of Objectivity by virtue of being the creator who clearly defined the reality in which we live through divine design.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asceticism#Christianity

In this reality, we are called to cast aside as much as possible whatever separates us from worshiping and glorifying our Objective God for our salvation via His Son Jesus Christ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualism

Only Jesus can save us, but no one else is responsible for us as individuals in accepting Him as our Lord and Savior.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honesty

Defined as "fairness and straightforwardness of conduct" or "adherence to the facts." Take an honest assessment of yourself, your desires, and reconcile that you will need to be just as honest about what you find to your potential mate.

GENERAL EXPECTATIONS

Match your desires with compatible traits. The following is the ideal, the expectation is that you look for a person who has the same limits/shortcomings you do. It actually helps that you explicitly state that the following things are potential deal breakers depending on taste. feel free to copy and paste this to your dating profile as needed.

>No Degeneracy

Illicit drug and alcohol abuse are hedonistic by nature. No drinking is best, social drinking is acceptable but open to taste. Minimal media consumption limits the ability of the devil to work against your life and relationships via its nihilist/hedonist leanings. KIK/SNAPCHAT/EXCESSIVE SOCIAL MEDIA USE IS A RED FLAG.

>No body modifications

Tattoos, hair color changes and non-ear piercings are signs of self doubt, as the person doesn't believe that they are interesting enough on their own as representatives of a living God. If you have them before salvation, understand that you potentially limit your dating pool to others with them.

>Sexual Responsibility

This is where we most fall. The modern secular media makes it difficult to resist.

Virginity/never married/no children is the ideal,but if you lack one of these, you potentially limit your dating pool to others who share your faults.

No sex until marriage shows respect not just to your partner but to yourself.

No fapping.

>Sexual Roles

Dress and act respectfully in regards to biological sex.

Men should have a sunday best for church (blazer, shirt, tie, slacks, and dress, shoes), business and/or casual in general, and be assertive in regards to considering themselves, their woman, and the people important to her.

Women should enjoy wearing dresses and skirts in church and in public, tasteful amounts of makeup and jewelry (if any) and earn respect of themselves from others.

>Church Attendance

At least once a month at the minimum. It is generally understood that people may have events that would keep them from church. To taste.

>Family Mindset

You both must want children and either desire or already have healthy relationships with family.

>Misc Demographics

Recommended height up to +/- 9 inches, aged +/- 10 years from each other. To taste.

Similar body types, gym attendance rates, intellectual pursuits, income levels, race, etc.

OPPOSITES ATTRACT IS A MEME.

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Romans 11

Let's discuss the jews, eschatology, and predestination.

Did God know the jews were going to reject Christ? The bible - the new testament especially - is fully of poetic paradoxes. Is the jews vs the world part of this? Is the story of history/Christianity a great reversal/switch at the kairos of Christ? Does this explain why God's plan for history started with a covenant that included only the jews, but excluded the rest of the world- so that through the death of the jews, the rest may live?

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Will most Christians eventually be Chinese?

How long until China is the most Christian country in the world?

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Opinions on Codreanu?

Have any of you read his book "For my Legionaries"? What do you think of him as a Christian? He was fighting for justice but he was also a murderer. I would especially like to know the opinions of Romanian Orthodox anons and church if anyone's lurking.

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Martin Luther wrote "Against the Robbing and Murdering Hordes of Peasants" during the German Peasant's war. 100,000 peasants were slaughtered for demanding basic human rights. Do you agree with it?

https://www.scrollpublishing.com/cgi-bin/sc/ss_mb.cgi?storeid=*10aa1248a706bb410f4e&ss_parm=A6e18c5cfb5814dcb9ccb2fafdb0ef588

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Why do so many people on /pol/ and pleb/pol/ hate us?

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/156542926#p156546332

Does anyone else get sick of trying to debate them? When I do, they sometimes give me links of how Christianity was "founded" in Ancient Egypt. They always revert to the

>muh pope is a nigger feet kisser

>muh Christianity is cuckstianity

>muh nigger christians>non christians of your own race

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Please pray for me, I got all 4 of my wisdom teeth plucked out and it hurts alot. Thankyou /christian/.

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/christian/ Draw Thread!

All skill levels welcome.

ITT post:

>Requests!

>Christian art you're working on!

>Christian art you've finished!

>Comments, critiques!

>Art questions, art tips!

Do not post:

<interdenominational theological argument/debate

<stickmen

>there is already a drawthread on page 13 in the catalog though

That thread is hot garbage, let it die.

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So how many of you went to Mass and had to sit through a glowing praise of MLK and how it's horrible we have racism still and we need MLK again and how tragic it was his "ministry" was cut short by a bullet and that MLK was a saint and a prophet even though he was a heretic even among baptists? And completely neglected to mention his adulterous perverted sick life?

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Baptist converting to Catholicism

I was raised as a Protestant, but lately I started to read the Church Father's and I'm starting to think that Catholicism is the true Church, especially due to the continuation of the papacy (also apostolic succession) and the preservation of doctrines

I looked into Eastern Orthodoxy briefly, but they lack the pope and their various churches seem to be all over the place, where some are in communion while others are in schism with each other…

I'm not interested in other branches of Protestantism.

What else should I read or do to learn about Catholicism? How do I convert?

Thanks.

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Is there a hope for Christians in Norway?

>be me

>21 y.o.

>atheist until recent

>join the Church of Norway

>"well it accepts gays and women priests, but that's okay"

>today was the first day I went to church in a long time

>worship God and etc.

>big church is almost empty

>only old people there

>get to know some of the church attendants after service

>they are quite nice people

>music in church is great

Why don't young people go to church? They could go for amazing musical compositions if not for God. People are were very nice to you, and you get to socialize (although there was at least one gay-person, but it is not for me to judge him). How can I contribute to reviving the church?

P.S. How can I find a christ-chan? I live in a big city, and yet there were only 20 people there, most of the 40+ and married

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How far is too far when dating?

I worry about sinning when I'm with my gf, where's the line between sin and not-sin in a relationship? what is allowed in dating and what is only allowed in marriage?

where is the line drawn here?

>hand holding

>hugging

>cuddling

>closed mouth kissing

——-

>caressing

>open mouth kissing

>touching breasts / butt

——-

>sex

I made a line where I think there's kind of a grey area

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Is it alright for a minister to remain unmarried?

(Titus 1:5-6) "For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee: If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly."

Does this passage mean that an ordained minister must have one wife, or can only have one if he is married?

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Bitterness and anger

One of my most common sins is wrathfulness, I have been made bitter over the years by my own life and by imageboard culture, and in every day life I find myself becoming so angry that I'll curse them and HATE them until hours or days later when I'll repent to God but feel as though I was justified in being angry. How can I deal with this, and does anyone else suffer with the same thing? It could come down to immaturity but I wasn't always like this.

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Profanity

There's a whole lot of dirty language that gets passed around on this board. Why do we, as Christians, tolerate such profane babbling? Surely we can guard our tongues a little closer for the better edification of one another.

Less F Bombs

More FAITH Bombs

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spiritual sloth

>daily spiritual reading turns to weekly

>daily prayer turns to weekly

>weekly turns to monthly

>haven't gone to church in couple months

>faith and motivation get sloppy

>suddenly little problems cause stress

>get irritated easier, get moodier at work

>start being more materialistic, scheming how to make more money although my finances are fine

wow what a difference a couple months of forgoing my spiritual practice makes

its a slippery slope if you disregard your development

anyone else notice this?

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Thoughts on/has anyone read this book before?

hey guys don't usually post here, often mostly lurk, but i wanted to get your guys opinion, on this book, i''ve been struggling with god on this seesawing mentality some days it feels like i know him, and other days im doubting wondering if im just wasting my time. But now i got this book pic related which a lot of ppl say is good for if you're the kind of person that goes where are the facts, i want the facts.

Gotta say the intro story i got on the kindle trial really got me into this, something that i could logically wrap my head around, so i purchased a copy, and happily await it's arrival, but i wanted to know your guys opinion, and if anyone else here has struggled with god on this sorta seesaw situation in prior years, or possibly at this very moment like i am.

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Christian nation

We need a christian nation that is autocracy and clean.

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How do you guys rationalize the fact that the first Christians (including Paul) were wrong about the coming of Jesus? They thought the world would come to an end soon, but that (of course) didn't happen.

This is pretty much accepted by the vast majority of bible scholars (including more conservative ones), and surprisingly enough it seems to be accepted even by conservative churches nowadays (like the Catholic church).

I'm just assuming Jesus was right. If he was right, then the first Christians misinterpreted him. How could that happen? Isn't it weird that Christians so close to Jesus got something so wrong?

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Why is masturbation bad again?

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Hey /christian/, I know this is a bit of a blog post, but I was wondering if I could get some advice from Catholics on what to do with a dilemma I'm dealing with. I was recently told by a Sedevacantist that if I confess to any priests who practice Novus Ordo Mass and/or became priests after the 2nd Vatican council, I will not be absolved of my sins and am practicing a false faith. Any kind of SSPX, FSSP, and any church simply offering Traditional Latin Mass is false, and that I should be following a Sedevacantist church instead. Yet, at the same time, I know that the very fact that they don't view the pope as genuine is a fallacy. At the same time, the church has become so modernistic, I just don't know what to do. Is it okay for me to still attend Traditional Latin Mass at my church, or should I attend a Sedevacantist Parish?

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http://reflectionofmind.org/60-bible-verses-describing-flat-earth-inside-dome/

Well? How do you explain this?

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Why isn't Christianity cool like vydia?

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ASMR

Is it a sin to enjoy ASMR? Sometimes it helps me sleep, but I also like the attention even if it's fake. It doesn't arouse lust in me but it feels like I'm just using it as a crutch because >tfw no gf

Am I going to hell, lads?

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The devil lives in 8Chan

>tfw in a progressive state of grace

>Feeling a one on one presence of God

>Quit all habits that compromised my soul

>True joy in a long while

> Come back to 8 to participate in /christian/ after a long hiatus

>Get bored and decide to make a few random threads around the boards about movies and literature

>tfw soaked in sin and filth

>grace subsides

>Feel depression wash over me. My faith under attack

>End a month long nofap in shame due to the power of suggestion. My eyes betrayed me on a porn thread

>mood changes

>about a month has past and I've been irritable every day, depressed. I feel like I turned my back on God since I felt him walking by my side.

The boards here can be a slippery slope Anons. Be careful in your pilgrimages outside /Christian/ .

Post here if you've experienced similar circumstances so we may collectively pray for all those in this thread.

God bless Anons. And thank you for your prayers in advance

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My very existence insults God and all the people I know or meet. With every other day it only gets worse and what I hope for, happens the opposite. Either I'm cursed or God is punishing me for something as it is doesn't make sense to happen such things to me, nobody takes me seriously and at best they are just pretending and its extremely obvious. On top of that I uncounciously or accidentally manage to insult them and probably made one really faithful girl leave her job even though I'm trying to be as nice as possible to everyone and never get angry or offended whatever the reason is. God was the only I haven not killed myself long ago but it seems he doesn't want me to stay alive as well. I don't even care about the health problems I have or life problems I had, just the guilt is too heavy for me and its going to smash me soon. I never had the same life as almost everyone else and still life a solitary life because I'm simply not wanted by anyone and I don't care anyway, the problem is that I make wrong decisions all the and usually don't even have the time to reflect on them or simply didn't knew the consequences.

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Simulated reality theory = Proof of God?

What if we are not real? What if the universe and reality just a simulation? In the end God, Hell and heaven are the only thing that’s real. What if we are just avatars that being fought over by the forces of darkness and light?

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Sola fide

Brainlet here. I dont get sola fide. Can you sin as much as you want askong as you believe in Jesus as your God and Saviour?

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Greg Locke Must Step Down as Pastor

He is an adulterer!

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Why Adam and Eve did not have children in Eden?

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>Seema Verma, the agency’s administrator, said the policy guidance came in response to requests from at least 10 states that had proposed requiring some Medicaid recipients to work or participate in activities such as skills training, education, job search, volunteering or caregiving. Those states, mostly Republican led, include Arizona, Arkansas, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Utah and Wisconsin.

>Advocacy groups said most Medicaid recipients already have jobs, and those who do not may have difficulty accessing transportation to get to and from work or need to care for family members.

>“This action by the Trump administration goes after people who are just trying to get by,” said Democratic U.S. Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon. “Healthcare is a right that shouldn’t be contingent on the ideological agendas of politicians.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-healthcare-medicaid/trump-administration-to-let-states-adopt-medicaid-work-requirements-idUSKBN1F01AH

>If you don't meet our moral standards, not only will we not help you, we will stop other people (the government) from helping you.

What the heck kind of Christian charity is that?

It's reprehensible.

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Why is Christianity canon in many Anime series? I find it weird thathow the not Catholic Church is portrayed in positive light in Black Clover

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Christ's crucifixion

Just found out that Catholics don't believe in penal substitution. I just wanted to know, what do you Catholics believe Christ accomplished on the cross. Did he not die for our sins?

Btw, I'm not here for a debate and probably won't even reply to the post unless for clarification but I would like for both Catholics and my fellow protestants to both give scriptural reasons for their sides.

It just seemed so clear to me that our sins were imputed onto Christ while his righteousness was imputed onto us.

Discuss.

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I found a pack of wonderful Greek psalms performed by talented new chapel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVbxT0w3ZKo&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIaQ9VsnHnU&feature=youtu.be

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Greetings..

Hey guys, just wanna ask this, any reformed/calvinist equivalent of divine office / liturgy of the hours?

ps : Im interested in catholicism but i dont like pope, my view is Christ is head of church, not a man and mariology. Good things : Eucharist is everyday and there's daily mass, a thing we dont have in reformed churches.

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I got baptized.

I'm so happy guys, I just got baptized in a Baptist church after accepting Jesus Christ as my Lord and savior. :)

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Motivation

Something I found off r/mgtow but still, good motivation for maintaining chastity

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Is college just not for me?

I know on a cosmic scale that my struggles aren’t particularly important or titanic, if they’re all I know. I’ve wasted the past 4 years trying to get a degree and being generally mistreated, even cheated in one instance by individuals at the university I attend(ed). I wasted the remainder of my teenage ears and the first year of my twenties and only have one year of credit to show for it. I didn’t even get any sort of enjoyment out of it: I have a depressive disorder and was incapable of socializing all the while, so I just quietly struggled on my lonesome. When I tried seeking help from counseling , they just kicked me out of the university for being a suicide liability. Honestly being kicked out worsened my depression but whatever. I felt like I needed help then, but their actions have made me feel like, without a degree and still a novice in personal skills, I really don’t deserve to exist.

In any case, is this just a sign that I need to do something else with my life, or should I just suffer through until I have a degree?

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Question about IFB's?

Are Independent Baptist Christians? Do they have valid baptisms?

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Protestant view of eucharist? How does it work? I know lots of you say its just 'symbolic' or some sort of metaphor that doesn't count, like baptism, but okay even if that is true how are you doing it symbolically, and how often does your church do it?

Even if you negate its spiritual dimension shouldn't you be doing it at least once a week or month or year? But I rarely hear about prot churches "doing it"

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The Virgin Mary's Struggles

If we want to be holy, the Virgin Mary should have an integral role in our spiritual life; but sometimes, perhaps, you might ​think you cannot relate to the Blessed Mother because she was immaculately conceived and didn’t have to struggle with sin as we do. In this video, Fr. Mike shares how even though ​Mary ​did not struggle with sin, she still had her own unique struggle that we can relate to when we are seeking holiness.

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Far Cry 5?

Is it ok to play Far Cry 5 when it comes out?

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Protestant discord

Is there any protestant discord related to /christian/? Or atleast a conservative protestant server? There are just to many catholics on the main /christian/ discord server. Please dont take no offense catholics i just wsnna talk more to protestants

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If, free will exist?

Why we don't pick, to be born in this world or no?

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Buddhist mummies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_mummies

>Buddhist mummies, also called flesh body bodhisattvas, full body sariras, or living buddhas (Sokushinbutsu) refer to the bodies of Buddhist monks and nuns that remain incorrupt, without any traces of deliberate mummification. These are venerated by some Buddhists who believe they successfully were able to mortify their flesh to death.[1] The practice to purposely make undecomposed bodies is seen as controversial and contradictory to the Buddhist belief in impermanence. Many were destroyed or lost to history.[2] In 2015, the Hungarian Natural History Museum found a Buddhist mummy inside a statue of Buddha.[3]

How do these bodies not rot?

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my friend got me to go to church again and made me interested in the faith but I was surprised to hear him say he thinks he's gonna go to hell…at first I thought he was joking but he keeps saying it and I think he means it.

I'm not sure what he did when he was younger, ive only known him for a few years but how do I convince him that he's probably not going to hell. From the outside he seems like a decent family guy

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Vatican II

I don't anticipate going into too much detail but basically

>be casual Catholic

>started intensifying faith and seeking more firm faith in God (Rosary, reading scripture, researching theology) during the last few months

>start to question things like the infallibility of the Pope, Novus Ordo, Vatican II

>general liberal-leaning and straying from tradition of the Catholic church is disappointing me

>at a point in my life where I am beginning to consider Orthodoxy or Sedevacantism

I'm open minded to all answers from either Catholics, Orthodox, or Sedevacantists. I've tried finding answers but these new traditions of the church are almost repulsive to me.

I also saw this video and thought it was interesting. I know, however, that not all Novus Ordo masses are treated equal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWo-7uVR8yI

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Why does God force me to be alive when i don't want to be alive. I don't want to play this game anymore, desu. I want to be free.

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Religious Poetry Thread

Batter my heart, three-person'd God, for you

As yet but knock, breathe, shine, and seek to mend;

That I may rise and stand, o'erthrow me, and bend

Your force to break, blow, burn, and make me new.

I, like an usurp'd town to another due,

Labor to admit you, but oh, to no end;

Reason, your viceroy in me, me should defend,

But is captiv'd, and proves weak or untrue.

Yet dearly I love you, and would be lov'd fain,

But am betroth'd unto your enemy;

Divorce me, untie or break that knot again,

Take me to you, imprison me, for I,

Except you enthrall me, never shall be free,

Nor ever chaste, except you ravish me

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How to tell friend about God?

My friend is on the brink of believing in God. He used to do a lot of drugs and his mother killed herslef so he and his family have been through rough times recently.

All the years I've known him I've made it known that I believe in God. He's always been iffy about God but has never outright denied his existence.

I would'nt say my friend is necessarily redpilled but ever since I've known him I've been 100% honest about my personal beliefs about the holocaust, 9/11, sandy hook, things of that nature. My friend sees how people with fame and fortune seem to behavior in particular ways. Specifically he mentions rappers that do the Illuminati signalling shit. Also, he realizes that only a select few can become famous and rich. He believes that the vast majority of those with high wealth and fame probably had to do something horrible to recieve that fame. Something like making a deal with the devil to trade their soul for money, fame, and sucess.

We actually had a discussion about this. I told him it is impossible to genuinely sell your soul because your soul belongs to God and no one can take it away. I told my friend that yes, it is possible to physically write out a contract and conduct a ritual and you may believe that you have given your soul (and if you participated in any sort of spirit cooking, abuse caught on camera, agreeing/forced to be molested by a hollywood elite to become famous, other fucked up shit that the elites do) then you may as well have sold your soul, not literally, but metaphorically, you sold your soul to whatever agents (jews, globalists, illuminati, whatever floats your boat- you get the idea).

That was just to give you guys some perspective on where my friend is coming from. In a nutshell, he knows it's entirely possible that in order to be famous or rich in this world you may have to do some fucked shit. He sees all they "coincidences" with the famous elites such as signalling to the illuminati, the elites all having the same opinions, and just the fact that rich and famous elites are entirely fake, almost robotic, due to not living a normal life or being brainwashed/abused from a young age.

Recently he told me:

"I think I might kinda believe in God dude. Cuss since all the Satanism and Illuminati shit is true, well, since Satan used to be an angel, that means God has to exist as well."

I think this is a great starting point. But how can I get my friend to see God's existence besides just because "Satan exists so therefore God has to exist". I want my friend to see that God exists externally of Satan. I want my friend to realize Christ's sacrifice for all humankind and that he can be saved if only he believes.

I am close to helping my friend take the right steps towards believing in Christ and therefore he can claim the gift of salvation.

I need to have a serious sitdown with him and try to explain Christs' sacrafice. What else should I tell him. This is my first time in my life explaining God to someone in this way. I have tried this with friendships in the past, but it seems like if they reject my attempt to get them to look at God differently, it destroys the friendship. I have had friendships ruined because I kept pressing God on them and for whatever reason it made my friends hate me for it.

So fellow Christians, how should I begin to explain all of this to my friend to help him see?

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mfw I am going to become a 4th degree knight of columbus next month.

any other knight fags here

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Anyone know a good mostly literal translation of the Old Testament to pair with David Bentley Hart's New Testament?

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Alien theology

How do we deal with the possible existence of Ayy LMAOs?

Do we regard them as nothing less than animals? Sinners who need saving? Demonic.

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Once Saved Always Saved

Is there a more dangerous heresy?

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Pope Francis

This thread is dedicated to articles that intentionally or even unintentionally misquote and misinterpret the words and teachings of Pope Francis. Most of the people on this board, even the protestants are not moronic enough to accuse Francis of being the anti-pope in the same disgraceful and nonsensical manner as the ((Dimond Brothers)). However, not everything that the current Pope has said/done have been agreeable to Christians, especially Catholics.

Regardless, the Pope has certainly faced unwarranted misinterpretations of his words. Are there any pictures or memes comparing his actual opinions with the misinterpretation made by the media?

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Faith Alone

Here are all the faith alone cerses I found after reading the NT again. Now some of them don't always mention faith but it may say you don't need to do works. Also please add more that I may have missed. And to the cathlodox please don't bring up verses that have nothing to with these but if you look through them and they don't see them saying it's by faith alone at all then please say so I can remove it, but have an arguement besides "He meant the opposite of what he siad."

also

>in b4 James 2

https://youtu.be/dPqSelVJvoA

John

1:12

3:15-16/18/36

4:14(John 6:35)

5:24

6:28-29/35/37/38-40/44-45/47

7:38-39

8:24

10:27-29

11:25-27/40

12:46

14:1-3

16:27

20:31

Matthew

5:19

7:21-23(John 6:38-40)

8:10-13

9:21-22

12:50

Mark

1:15

2:5

5:34

10:24-25

16:16

Luke

5:20

7:50

8:12

18:10-14/40-42

23:40-43

Acts

2:21

10:43

11:16-17

13:38-39/48

15:7-9

16:30-31

19:26-28

26:18

Romans

1:16-17

3:20/22/24-25/26/27/28/30

4:2-9/11/14-16/24

5:1/15-18

6:23

9:30-32

10:3-4/9-10/13

11:6

1 Corinthians

1:14/17

3:14-15

5:1-2

2 Corinthians

4:13-14

1 Thessalonians

4:14

2 Thessalonians

2:12

Colossians

1:22-23

2:11-12

Ephesians

1:13-14

2:8-9

4:7

Galatians

2:16/21

3:6-11/14/21-22/24/26

5:3-6

Philippians

3:3/9

Titus

3:5

1 Timothy

1:16

2 Timothy

1:9

3:15

Hebrews

4:3

10:38-39

11:7

James

2:10

1 Peter

1:5/8-9

3:21(Colossians 2:12)

1 John

3:9/23-24

4:2-3/15

5:1/4-5/10-11/13

Revelation

2:7/11/17/26

3:5/12/20-21

21:7/27

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6000 yr earth and second coming...

Lots of verses in gospel and epistles suggest that the disciples thought the second coming was close at hand. Some undefined ' soon ' amount.

Now that's fine given a 4 billion year old earth. Soon could be a hundred thousand years, relative to earth time.

But if the earth is only 6000 years old then 2000 years is already 1/3 the existence of the earth….what the heck.

That would be the equivalent of waiting 1.3 billion years given the scientific dating of the earth.

Know what I mean?

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How do you guys counter the arguments made form intellectuals were they say that Jesus is a copy (more or less), or is based on past civilizations' deities? For example, in Sumerian polytheism, Marduk is a god that closely resembles Jesus. There also other religions that have deities that closely resemble Jesus and his works. These people believe that Jesus is "based" on the characteristics of these foreign deities. I am not well informed on the subject, so I was hoping someone would help or provide some insight on this topic. It pains me when people say that Jesus is based off other gods. Pic unrelated.

Thanks guys.

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Christian Music General

Post your based Christian music

And none of that stupid medieval chants

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I am completely enslaved to this god. I spend 12 hours every day working for this god. What kills me is that this god is capable of providing me with food, shelter, protection, a wife, clothes, ect. It never ends, I keep getting stressed over the fact that I don't have enough of this god.

How do I break free from all of this?

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Do you ever feel angry about God?

I live with chronic physical and mental health problems and pretty much everyday the only thing that keeps me from ending myself is the fear of His anger. I'm frustrated that He insists I live a meaningless and bleak 75 years where the only motivation I have to keep going is it will get MUCH worse if you quit right now.

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Abortion

What are the most effective ways to debate abortion?

Especially with people who say they are Christian but are pro-abortion? For example I had an argument with a Christian who said that because the punishment for killing an unborn child in the old testament was paying the family money, it is not treated as a separate life by God until birth.

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Happy 81st birthday, Holy Father!

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Where was Jesus born?

Modern scholars say he was born at Nazareth and theh claim the early church said he was born in Bethlehem so they could make an ancient prophecy seem correct. thoughts?

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Breastfeeding

Pope Francis Once Again Encourages Mothers To Breastfeed In The Sistine Chapel

>There are many spaces where women are discouraged from breastfeeding in public. Museums, airlines, and even hospitals have come under fire for not giving new moms enough support, or admonishing them for breastfeeding or pumping. But Pope Francis is a proponent of the practice, even in Catholicism's holiest places.

>In an annual baptism ceremony in the Sistine Chapel Sunday, the Pope encouraged mothers to feed their babies if they were hungry during the two-hour-long service.

>"Babies have their own dialect," he added. "If one starts to cry the others will follow, like in an orchestra." He said that if the babies were "starting a concert" of crying because they were hungry, mothers should "go ahead and feed them," for this too is a "language of love."

>This isn't the first time Pope Francis has encouraged mothers to breastfeed in the Sistine Chapel. Last year at the same ceremony, the Pope made similarly supportive remarks, saying mothers should feed their children as "Mary breastfed Jesus."

>NPR's Rebecca Hersher reported that even though Pope Francis has "repeatedly justified his position in the most traditional terms possible — harking back to the infancy of Christ himself," not all Catholic churches have followed the same logic.

What do you think about breastfeeding in the church?

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Is infant baptism valid

IS infant baptism valid? My friend is getting baptised soon, holding that when he was baptised as a child he could not have faith, and thus it was invalid?

Is there a case that my infant baptism is invalid?

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>the moment you realize ex Godless communist east is now more Christian than the west

>Meanwhile America was never a Christian nation

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How could Paul's statement to engage in frequent marital relations be followed, at the time, without contraception?

"Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control."

1 Corinthians 7:5

The alternative would be contraceptive methods which would involve wasting seed (which was opposed for centuries) or some form of natural family planning (which was opposed by Augustine, see below).

"Is it not you who used to warn us to watch as much as we could the time after purification of the menses when a woman is likely to conceive, and at that time refrain from intercourse, lest a soul be implicated in the flesh? From this it follows that you consider marriage is not to procreate children, but to satiate lust. Marriage, as the marriage tablets themselves proclaim, joins male and female for the procreation of children. Whoever says that to procreate children is a worse sin than to copulate thereby prohibits marriage; and he makes the woman no more a wife but a harlot, who, when she has been given certain gifts, is joined to man to satisfy his lust. If there is a wife there is matrimony. But there is no matrimony where motherhood is prevented; for then there is no wife". (Augustine - The Morals of the Manichees 18.65 PL 32:1373)

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Jacob, Esau, and Pharoh

How can God simultaneously want all men to be saved, yet force men to reject him and punish men in Hell all the same?

I have been struggling with Romans 9 for a long while now, to the point where I struggle to call myself a Christian anymore. It seems inconsistent to me for God to open salvation to all men through Christ, yet pick and choose men like Jacob for salvation, predestine Esau, Pharaoh, or other men for Hell to just to show the elect his wrath.

Scripture tells us:

1 Timothy 2:3-4

>For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God, our Saviour, Who will have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

John 3:17

>For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.

Titus 2:11

>For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men.

but:

Romans 9:11-23

<For when the children were not yet born, nor had done any good or evil, (that the purpose of God according to election might stand) Not of works, but of him that calleth, it was said to her:

<That the elder shall serve the younger, as it is written: Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated.

>What shall we say then? Is there injustice with God? God forbid. For he saith to Moses: I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy: and I will shew mercy to whom I will shew mercy.

<So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

<For the Scripture saith to Pharao: To this purpose have I raised thee up, that I may shew my power in thee: and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth.

<Therefore he hath mercy on whom he will, and whom he will he hardeneth.

<Thou wilt say, therefore, to me: Why doth he then find fault? For who resisteth his will? O man, who art thou that repliest against God? *Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it: Why hast thou made me thus? Or hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump, to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

<And if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath, fitted for destruction, that he might shew the riches of his glory upon the vessels of mercy, which he hath prepared unto glory.

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Do icons need to be blessed?

Isn't it redundant to bless them? why do some Orthodox traditions do this?

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Hauntings and onject possesses

What’s the Bible stances on haunting and objects being possessed?

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Is this ok?

I personally believe in the real hope of universal salvation(based on at gregory of nissa and st isaac the syrians writings)

However even tho Jesus disliked secrets i dont believe in preaching univ. Salvation.

I donate to a parish whose priests preach eternal hell. Even if this idea creates anxiety,it helps the sinner avoid sins which damage others.

Just my idea,personally i live as if hell is eternal and try to pray for criminals so they avoid it

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Switching to the Catholic Church?

I am thinking of switching to the Catholic Church.

I will be attending my first mass this Sunday.

I am a Protestant, but I have been getting closer to God in this past little while. I have found that I am not OK with a lot of Protestant stuff like:

>women preaching

>that talking in tongues weirdness

>forcing me to listen to alternative Christian rock

>one women at a church I went to started interpretative dancing during a sermon(?) and everyone acted like nothing was happening

>women preachers going off on stupid tangents

>their obsession with Israel

What do I need to do to get ready for mass?

>proper clothing obviously

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Why's the bible so hard to read?

I read it but can't comprehend anything

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Protestantism and racism.

How many radical racist black hate preachers are the Protestant sects, especially, but certainly not limited to, the Baptists, going to produce, radicalize and encourage before they are finally labeled an official hate organization and rightfully outlawed?

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DNA found in Jesus's blood

What do you guys make of vid related? (it's only short).

He claimed to have found the ark of the covenant near to where Jesus was crucified, and that there was blood found in the cave that was spilt from Christ on the cross through the earthquake-created crack in the ground onto the mercy seat.

Have any of you heard of this before? Is he a crackpot or have his discoveries impacted on your faith?

see for more info https://jonah135588.wordpress.com/2008/10/22/deathbed-confession-of-ron-wyatt-discoverer-of-the-ark-of-the-covenant/

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The nature of hell

I have heard some say here that God reigns over Heaven, earth, and hell. However, there is mark 12:27:

He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.

If our God is God of only the living, and hell is eternal death, what is to be said about hell? That it needs no ruler?

I personally sometimes believe that hell is simply nonexistence, that those who do not accept our Lord's gift of eternal life simply fall into nothingness. If there are no negative feelings in heaven, how can you feel positively about friends and family that are being tortured for eternity?

I do not take pleasure in imagining even my worst enemies suffer for eternity. Our God is merciful, and I believe it is just that those outside of Grace simply will cease to exist.

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Does Paul say that we now have impunity when we sin because we have been set free from the punishments of the law?

Romans

Chapter 8

1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.

Chapter 7

25 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin

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Dispensationalism

How did this garbage get so widespread?

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converting /pol/

Has anyone thought about converting bulks of the /pol/ userbase? I'd say about 1/3rd of the board is already Christian, why not make that more?

the reason I'm writing this is because I'm not educated enough to try making a thread on /pol/ about this myself

Also worth trying on cuckchan /pol/ since that place is more chaotic.

Thoughts?

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Thoughts?

List of 25 Contradictions Expounded Below

https://www.jesuswordsonly.com/books/175-pauls-contradictions-of-jesus.html

• Jesus Says Not To Eat Meat Sacrificed to Idols, But Paul Says It Is Ok

• Jesus Says The Law Continues, But Paul Says No

• Paul Says The Pharisees Followed The Law Rigorously, But Jesus Says They Were Lax About The Law

• Jesus Says Salvation Initiates And Continues By Repentance From Sin and Obedience Besides Faith; Paul Says This is Heresy

• Jesus Tells Apostles To Teach His Commands Given Prior to His Ascension While In The Flesh, But Paul Says Not To Do So

• Paul Says Elders Are Entitled To Pay for 'Preaching & Teaching,' But Jesus Says No

• Jesus Teaches There Are Only 12 Apostles Into Eternity, But Paul Adds Himself To The List As a Thirteenth

• Paul Exhorts Celibacy, But Jesus Clearly Says It is A Choice Not Within Everyone's Power

• Jesus Says There Is One Pastor and Teacher (Himself), But Paul Says There Are Many Pastors and Teachers

• Paul Says God Is The God of the Dead, But Jesus Says God Is Not The God of the Dead

• Paul Says God Does Not Live in Temples Made of Human Hands, But Jesus Says He Does

• Jesus says Nations Of The World Are Under Satan, But Paul Says Their Rulers Are Agents of God

• Jesus Teaches Rapture is Of Evil Ones First, But Paul Teaches The Opposite

• Jesus Says A Call Is Revocable, But Paul Says It Is Irrevocable

• Jesus Says Some Are Righteous, But Paul Says It Is Impossible

• Paul Excludes Eating With Sinners But Christ's Example We Are To Follow, and the Lost Sheep Parable, Is Contrary

• Paul Teaches We Are Eternally Secure, But Jesus Teaches Insecurity to a Sinning Believer

• Paul Teaches In Original Sin But Jesus Contradicts

• Jesus' Command About Calling Anyone Fool Is Violated by Paul

• Paul Denies Obedience Grants Any Righteousness Unto Life, But Jesus Says It Does

• Jesus Sends The Apostles to Baptize, But Paul Says Jesus Did Not Send Him to Baptize

• Jesus Says the Merciful Receive Mercy, But Paul Says Only Those God Chooses Arbitrarily Will Receive Mercy

• Paul Says Salvation Does Not Depend Upon Exertion, But Jesus Says It Does

• Paul Says He Could Be Justified of The Sin that Never Could be Justified under the Law given Moses (Blasphemy), but Jesus says to the contrary that it is The Unpardonable Sin.

• Paul Says Flesh will not inherit the Kingdom of God, but Jesus in Flesh ascended to heaven, and promises to resurrect our bodies to heaven / New Jerusalem, giving us the same physical resurrection that Jesus had.

https://www.jesuswordsonly.com/books/175-pauls-contradictions-of-jesus.html

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* blocks your path*

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How do I become Coptic?

I believe in Christianity to the fullest and I love Christ. The Coptic Church has that. The Coptic Church also has culture which looks really awesome. How do I become a Copt? There is a Coptic Orthodox Church a town over from me, how should I go about asking to convert? Do I need to be baptized again (I was baptized in an Evangelical church when I was 18 in the name of Trinity by full immersion).

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Happy Orthodox Christmas.

Happy Orthodox Christmas from Russia.

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Christian Prince Thread (Arab Christian vs Muslim Live Debates)

New Christian Prince Thread.

Christian Prince is a native Arab Christian who has been doing apologetics work for over 20 years, debating Mohammedans and writing books.

Please invite your Mohammedans friends to debate!

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOllN2W9yT4ZYaSgTkqzhhg

Skype: DebateTV

Patreon: http://patreon.com/ChristianPrince

Minds: http://minds.com/ChristianPrince

Currently Live Now!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vRWwErICI4

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Why can't the world end already

>be me

>lost all friends

>poor

>trying to make it as an illustrator so draw all day at home

>neighbors are loud, cuss a lot, and can be heard fornicating every few hours

>they also play some depressing bassy music 16 hours a day, sometimes until 5AM

>can't move out of this hellhole in the foreseeable future

>can't even pray in peace

>have borne many different sufferings but the demonic noise is the first to make me depressed like this

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If Christianity is true, why aren't Jesus' miracles considered history like Julius Caesar crossing the Rubicon?

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Why didn't the Catholic Church excommunicate any leaders of the Nazis in Germany? Most of the Waffen SS were confessing Catholics and none were expelled from the Church. Joseph Goebell's was the only Nazi leader expelled from the Church but that was because he married a Protestant divorcee.

When will the Catholic Church own up to it's support of Nazism and fascism?

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Gluttony and working out

Is eating a ton of food to get bigger sinful? I eat quite bit of food but haven't gained any weight in months.

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Zeemap Thread

Restarting the /christian/ Zeemap thread. Since it was pushed off without being stickied, I lost the color-key. I remember that Yellow was Catholic, Orange was Orthodox, Brown was Baptist, Black was 'Prefer Not to Say'. The other colors are various other sects for which we have flags, but I cannot remember. If you can remember, post it in this thread.

link:

https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2658389

Viewer key: Shortest verse in the Bible with proper spelling and punctuation.

Member key: Found in yogurt and alfalfa sprouts. Capitalize.

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Thoughts on Abortion Clinics

I have a question: since abortion is viewed as murder in the eyes of the Lord, why do Christians tolerate the clinics at all? Do they tolerate because the American law tells them to? If so, do they follow America before they follow God's law?

Just food for thought

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On Protestant bible reading

It is clear to me that Protestant reading troubles most come form more base sets of problems that they can have while reading the Bible, and I wish to take a minute to review some of them, just to wind out.

The first problem I meet is that they refuse certain things that greatly help bible interpretation, such as Actions form Saints.

For example, if you point out "Jesus Christ did X", you can very well find that you will be replied with "WELL YOU'RE NOT SINLESS, SO, SORRY MATE!". This is a rather bad position to take since while rules are what the apostles are following, their actions are what give context as to what the spirit of the law is.

I think the second problem That I sometimes also find with Cathodox, but whatever is just rash interpretation of bible verses, which curtails other parts of the bible.

For example, on Works, the Bible says:

"For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast"

But it also says:

"Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them is like a wise man who built his house on the rock."

Most people are still so slow and take it to mean that works don't matter and can't give a proper answer when confronted by the second verse, though Cathodox are able to see that both verses work in tandem, and not against each other.

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Agnostic here.

What exactly gives Christians (or any religious people) the right to try and impose their values and beliefs on society as a whole via politics, especially people who do not neccessarily share their beliefs? I have no problem with private Christians who practice their beliefs at a personal level (charity etc), but whenever a "Christian" comes out to denounce homosexuality or whatever he doesn't like I feel complete disgust towards Christianity. As long as people obey the law they should be able to do whatever they like.

Do Christians not understand the concept "mind your own business"?

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From the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

> The equality of men rests essentially on their dignity as persons and the rights that flow from it: Every form of social or cultural discrimination in fundamental personal rights on the grounds of sex, race, color, social conditions, language, or religion must be curbed and eradicated as incompatible with God's design

What did they mean by this? Why would the Catholic Church condemn its own actions in the past? No Pope in the 16th or 17th century would have argued that it was wrong to discriminate on the grounds of religion. They didn't want to eradicate religious discrimination, they wanted to eradicate other religions. So what has happened? Has the modern Church finally found the truth, or has Papal Infallibility been unable to prevent heresy from becoming official doctrine?

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Argument

Catholics give reasons why Protestantism and Protestants give reasons why Catholics should convert to Protestantism. Please be civil.

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Ignore Gnostics!

/christian/ has been getting flooded by Gnostic faggots. IGNORE ALL GNOSTIC CONTENT!

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Sexual morality

Don't you guys think it's already time for Christianity to change its sexuality rules? A lot of people don't convert because of that, including myself (not the only reason, but the most important one I think). Of course, there are also people who only convert because of that, but it's probably fewer people.

A lot of rules changed over time, like usury being wrong and women having to use veils inside the church, why can't that change? As I see the stuff about sexuality is closer to Judaism, Jesus didn't talk about that too much.

Discuss.

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Orthodox Church vs Catholic Church?

Quick fill in on the differences between the Orthodox church and the Catholic church.

All I really know is that the Catholic church is western Europe, with a pope, and the Orthodox church is eastern Europe with a cooler cross.

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How do YOU play games?

In many games, such as Dragon Age and The Wither, there is some sort of conflict between the local 'Church', with usually is the stand-in for Christianity, and the Mages/sorcerors/wizards/whatever.

With side do you generally suport? And how do you play your character, how does he acts on the world?

When I was irreligious(not atheist, I never sank to that level of depravity) I used to support the Mages because 'Hey, wizards are cool!' But now that I follow my faith I am not so sure.

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Daily reminder

And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

1 Corinthians 13:13

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Galatians 3:28

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Creation Story and the Garden of Eden

Hi, I just started reading the bible for the first time and I was wondering how the differences between the Story of Creation and the Garden of Eden were justified. Specifically pertaining to how animals were created before humans in the Story of Creation, while they were created after Adam in the Garden of Eden. I'm sure this question gets asked a lot but I would appreciate any answers. Thank you and God Bless.

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>I don't follow religion, I follow the Bible

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The Eucharist is a Sacrifice.

If you don't regard the Eucharist as a true sacrifice then your theology is pure shit.

>"And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, 'This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.'"

>Luke 22:19

In Greek this is:

>καὶ λαβὼν ἄρτον εὐχαριστήσας ἔκλασεν καὶ ἔδωκεν αὐτοῖς λέγων· Τοῦτό ἐστιν τὸ σῶμά μου [τὸ ὑπὲρ ὑμῶν διδόμενον· τοῦτο ποιεῖτε εἰς τὴν ἐμὴν ἀνάμνησιν.

The word usually translated as "remembrance" in this passage, "ἀνάμνησις", carries a sacrificial connotation. It is often times used in the context of sacrifice, and in fact, every time the word appears in the New Testament, it is in the context of sacrifice.

Now, removing ourselves from this, just look at the Last Supper and the whole concept of the Eucharist in light of scripture and the Temple sacrifice. Jesus saying, "This is my body given up for you" and "this is my blood poured out for you" for the "new covenant." How could anyone not draw a sacrificial tone from this? On top of that, the scene for the Last Supper in the Gospels can be easily paralleled with Exodus 24 and the "blood of the covenant."

>"And Moses took the blood, sprinkled it on the people, and said, 'This is the blood of the covenant which the Lord has made with you according to all these words.'”

>Exodus 24:8

Now compare that again with the Gospel scene,

>This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

>Matthew 26:28

Moses institutes the old covenant with a sacrifice, and in a similar way, Jesus does so for the new covenant in the Last Supper which is metaphysically united with the events at the cross.

Now, let's see what the early Church had to say about this,

>But every Lord's day gather yourselves together, and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure. But let no one who is at odds with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned. For this is that which was spoken by the Lord: 'In every place and time offer to me a pure sacrifice; for I am a great King, says the Lord, and my name is wonderful among the nations.'"

>Didache, Chapter 14 [85 A.D]

Protestant theology is utter cancer sometimes.

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I put some inspirational quotes on cute anime nun girl pics for personal use, maybe someone else will enjoy them

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Help a newbie out

Hey /christian/ i grew up as a "united protestant" however my family never really went to church or read the bible. Now i just recently got my own bible and finished genesis. A part of me wants to just stay as a united protestant but really i have no idea if i should convert into a catholic or where to start with anything. On one hand i'm not sure if i like the direction the Catholic church seems to be heading and i heard that they often contradict the bible. On the other hand the united protestants around me seem to be pretty "hippy" and not in the good Jesus type of way(see pic related). I am lost and would really appreciate any guidance you can provide.

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Demonic incursions

When is /christian/ going to make a international task force for dealing with demonic incursions?

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Protestant view of Church History?

can someone explain the Protestant view of Church history?

When exactly did the Church fall into error?

from what I understand it goes like

>Church founded in Apostolic era

>Church falls into error sometime before the 16th century

>Reformation happens

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Are there any good ways to detect if a “Christian” online is just larping? As opposed to being a genuine believer?

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How do I know if God has given me up to a reprobate mind?

I ask for forgiveness often, probably at least once a day. I believe Christ died for our sins.

That being said I sin all the time and I feel terrible when I do it. It's usually right after I masturbate that I feel guilt. Has God given me up to a reprobate mind since I am doing things which are not convenient? Am I beyond saving? Thanks.

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Christian MGTOW thread

Reminder that Jesus, Saint Paul and almost ever Pope ever went MGTOW

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Verse/Quote Thread

What is your favourite bible verse or quote from a saint or influential christian you admire?

Matthew 25:21 "His master replied, 'Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master's happiness!'

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What now?

So there is this atheist who says that one can not use as a source the apostles (even if they were eye witnesses) to prove that Jesus did the miracles He did (we both agreed that Jesus existed as a human). How does one respond to retard?

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Cyber church is possible?

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Everything sucks.

Clearly I can't spill my heart out, because this is still a chan and I'm not running through TOR, but the new year is upon us and I'm struck with the same bad feelings as usual.

I'm an atheist, or about as close to one as an agnostic can manage to be, in any case. I think whatever certifiably supernatural shenanigans go on are cosmic-tier and don't dabble in the lives or ongoings of the world at all. That said, I do think it makes sense that, given what we know about physics, there must have been something beyond our comprehension and current natural law in the very beginning, because no current law of physics makes creating a universe from true vacuum naturally possible.

In any case, losing people and things and the general (albeit only really socially imposed) significance of entering a new year always makes me so sad about the temporary, pointless nature of it all. I know people say don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened, but I can't help but live in dread every day of the end. I wish I didn't. I know there are atheistic schools of thought to quash existential dread, and I can't logically even formulate why I feel the way I do, but it's so tiring. My close friends are Christian and it seems great, but I can't ever seem to dip my feet in the waters of your faith without feeling like I'm lying to myself.

Of all the existing and dead faiths out there, what solidifies Christianity in your minds?

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How do I get gnostic thoughts out of my head?

This world is endlessly corrupt, and if evolution is true, was always so

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Proof Jesus Rose From The Dead

Looking for proof

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Is he /ourguy/?

I am just now again a Christian and want to live a Christian life…His words are speaking to me.

Post more BASED people with wise words…Jesus included.

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Is Game of Thrones trash?

Is this series trash?

Its literally just edge and GOOD IS DUMB all the time.

The world isn't even interesting, and the characters are more often than not awful or cringeworthy people.

How can people like this thing? And worse, how can they try and say this piece of shit has the same value and impact as Lord of The Rings?

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Athanasius on Scripture and Tradition

You might remember me when I made the thread about Clement of Rome, and provided a response to the article provided.

Here I will do the same with a well known Protestant apologist, Turretinfan who claims that Athanasius believes in Sola Scriptura

http://turretinfan.blogspot.my/2016/10/sola-scripture-in-athanasius-contra.html

Here he briefly summarises each chapter, but for now, I will just get to the 1st chapter. His final statement here says that,

>Here Athanasius explicitly acknowledges the sufficiency of Scripture. He also confesses the usefulness of human teachers, and he himself is one such teacher, doing what our "blessed teachers" before him did: not infallibly defining the Scriptures, but simply explaining them.

Here is one problem, Athanasius clearly states that what he is going to explain to Macarius is essentially what those teachers before him had written which is the "faith of Christ the Saviour". So it would certainly be the case here that to him, the "blessed teachers" are reliable interpreters of Scripture. True, Sola Scriptura does not claim that Tradition is bad and can accept the fathers and teachers as guides. However, such a matrix isn't gonna be of the impression that these teachers before are reliable and have accurately expounded upon the faith of Christ given that they must be referred to Scripture. Contra to this, Athanasius is confident on the reliability of the teachers before him whom he had learned the faith of Christ from and thus would entail that his matrix of authority would be one that places Scripture above but knowledge and aid in understanding it is mediated by the "blessed teachers" who are seen as reliable interpreters of it.

Of course it is true that Scripture is sufficient to Athanasius to proclaim the truth. But it is not going to be sufficient to proceed and say that because of this, Athanasius is essentially using a methodology that is Sola Scriptura as a Catholic could simply appeal to the concept of material sufficiency.

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Is it sinful to enjoy a beer or two alone at night and read/watch movies, provided it isn't an everyday sort of thing?

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What's the Christian solution to the transgender question?

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A "Good Lie"

>What harm would it do, if a man told a good strong lie for the sake of the good and for the Christian church…a lie out of necessity, a useful lie, a helpful lie, such lies would not be against God, he would accept them.

Are there actually certain circumstances where lying to others is permitted, or was this a major theogical goof on Luther's part?

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Is it wrong to be attracted to girls at church? Some of the girls at my church are pretty hot and it’s hard to not look at them.

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I destroyed a Christmas album because one of the songs claims that Mary was unmarried when she was with child.

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why is homosexuality bad

My intuition tells me that its bad but I haven't really come across a rigorous argument against it. I have a few arguments my self as to why its bad but they are very weak imo.

It's really easy to throw together some inductive arguments against it but it's exceedingly difficult to make those types of arguments rigorous.

You could also argue that we are not held to the standards in leviticus because of Jesus. You could also argue that the sin of sodom was focused more on other stuff.

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Hey /christian/, quick thread:

Does anyone have the official reading list of the board? I'm downloading some books and I can't seem to find the reading list pic anywhere

Thanks fam.

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So if I befriended the next Pope some how when I’m young (say 20) and I decided to become a Catholic priest and then beame a bishop like 40 years later, would he take notice of me and make me a cardinal? As I take it, getting cardinalship seems more like nepotism than doing actual works for the Church.

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New Years resolutions?

>praying that Jesus comes back this year

What is /christian/'s New Years resolution? Mine is to make it to church every Sunday without fail, even if I'm sick or something.

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Christianity and Video Games

Why are videogames based on Christianity considered lame?, and why the ones listed as "Christian Video Games" are so lame?

Look at this list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_video_games

Most of these games are failed titles with not much success on the market and almost no real effort from developers.

I do know that Christianity its still alive in the world of videogames, specially with some taking on themes such as Light vs Darkness, however, I´m starting to get worried about the future for children, since now a days most games are based on paganism, or they just simply promote satanism and luciferanism.

WE NEED TO CREATE A CHRISTIAN/CATHOLIC/ORTHODOX SPACE IN THE MARKET OF VIDEOGAMES FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS

I am sure there is nothing wrong on playing video games as a christian, unless ofcourse you are looking for lust or violence.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-video-games.html

Future christian videogames should promote a bit of dark humour combined with redpill to save children from the satanic system we are living today.

>Also

Which are your favourite Christian or Medieval theme videogames?

Mine are "Dante´s Inferno, Crusader Kings and Total War series"

I know I should try out some Mount & Blade and Stronghold.

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Why do you think that believers don't perform miracles like they used too?

I don't doubt that some can, Padre Pio healed plenty and even appeared after death to cure a man in my hometown of cancer once (https://www.messengerofpadrepio.com/testimony), but it's an exceedingly rare gift in comparison to what is described in Acts and it's been that way since Acts. So what's up?

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Thomas S. Monson, President of the LDS church, is dead.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/obituaries/thomas-monson-dies.html

Sad that he lived his whole life in a non-Christian cult that spread the worst of lies. Still, let us hope God shows mercy on his soul .

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Asking God: Which is the True Church?

I have read that a tactic of Mormon missionaries is to get the people they proselytize to pray to God and ask him if Mormonism is true. Apparently this is successful for them if they use it frequently. Which raises several questions for me:

1) Are these people actually communicating with God, or are they just impressionable based on spiritual immaturity and being emotionally primed by the Mormon missionaries?

2) Would any Christian in general, be he a Roman Catholic, Baptist, Orthodox, Calvinist, etc., ask God this question?

3) Would God provide different answers to different people?

4) Does it happen that someone asks God this question and his answer compels them to switch to a different Christian following? I would think everyone says that God tells them their way is their right way.

5) Do most people not really communicate with God in the way they imagine?

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Monarchists, what do you think?

Monarchism seems right, but two questions:

Q1: What do Christian monarchists make of 1 Samuel 8 (from verse 10 onwards)? And why does the book of Judges say "there was no king in Israel" as if that were a bad thing (it doesn't explicitly say that though, is that what I'm supposed to get?), when 1 Samuel says that having a king is a bad thing (yes, I understand that both can be bad).

Q2: Romans 13:1: "Let every soul be subject to higher powers: for there is no power but from God: and those that are, are ordained of God."

Why does God ordain powers that are sinful or encourage more sin? I could see why leaders such as Hitler or Pinochet could be used as a judgment for sin, and I could even see how Trudeau is a judgment on Canada because he is only making Canada weaker, but I don't understand why God (it appears) actively installs bad leaders who only lead people to committing sins that they wouldn't have previously, such as murdering Christians.

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Is it wrong for me to have a interest in reading occult and esoteric traditions?

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Nervous about possible conversion

So… disclaimer. First of all, i'm on this board because well I tried reddit first and it seems to be totally overrun with atheists and frankly disgusting (if I could be so bold). While this place isn't perfect (and nowhere is), at least I seem to like some of the attitude, which is people speaking up more honestly. (Sadly there also seems to be a load of heretics on here, but compared to reddit it seems tolerable)

I won't bore you all with too many details. But i've been raised in a Buddhist/Shinto background and have been considering converting to Catholicism/Christianity, but a few things have been really working against me, mostly cultural issues. Perhaps stereotypes or falling into them. Perhaps it's my own doubts etc. I feel a bit lost and hoping someone could help me here. I'm from the states but of course my family isn't and, well things are confusing for me, and I hate to fall into stereotypes, well, I'm sure people will say ethnicity doesn't matter that much. Sorry if I'm a bit all over the place. It's just a bit of a confusing time for me.

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Deterioration of the Anglican Communion?

How did the Anglican Communion go from the first image to the second image?

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What makes a Christian?

Tell me, /christian/, if you can, what defines a Christian? What is that essential jewel in the centre of all the guff that makes a Christian?

I read an article today in which the forthcoming American princess said someone in an LA soup kitchen told her 13yo self that "life is about putting others’ needs above your own fears" and I thought to myself, well, that's an awfully Christian thing to say, isn't it? For did not God Himself say that in deed, if not in words? Christ saw in humanity the need to be saved and, above and beyond His own fears, willingly died, did He not? Does not every saint and martyr recognise the same? Perhaps the person who said that was Christian. And then I observe the world and I see this same statement being copied by the world. The world sees that this is the standard, and some are even living by it. And I see in myself my fears far outstripping my own willingness to help others.

When the world seems more Christian than you are, are you simply not-saved? If aid workers who sacrifice their middle-class lives (if not their actual lives) are more "Christian" by this quote-definition than you, that you are not "out there" changing lives for the better, you're just "in here" tapping on a computer, spreading your disgust at the world, are you not Christian, or are they more Christian than you? Is the world more Godly than we would admit? Or do I have the wrong end of the proverbial stick? Is works not the definition of "being Christian"?

You can all turn this into another Catholic/Baptist works/grace shitflinging exercise, if you so desire. Or you can burrow down further and answer me this: what defines a Christian in light of the world's ability to mimic our Lord's grace?

genuine question from a three-year veteran of this place inb4 >>>/reddit/ >>>/leftypol/ and other associated BS.

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Joke Thread

A group walks into a talent agency. It's a pope, an Orthodox priest, and an Anglican bishop. The pope says to the talent agent, "We have a really amazing act. You should represent us."

The agent says, "Sorry, I don't represent religious acts. They're a little too cute."

The priest says, "Sir, if you just see our act, we know you would want to represent us."

The agent says, "OK. OK. I'll take a look."

The pope gets on his phone and tells the Vatican to encourage gays to enter the priesthood. He then explains that when they inevitably molest children, he will just shuffle them around to different parishes. He then proceeds to lick a baby's diapah.

While all this is happening, the Orthodox priest decks himself out in LARPing gear over top of his werebear fursuit and gives a loud roar. He then proceeds to wrap himself in a Turkish flag and read a selection from his 400 page fanfic manuscript about fighting demons in Aerial Tollhouses.

At the same time, the Anglican dresses up as a druid and starts dancing around a maypole. He then declares that his name is Jessica and performs an elaborate 'trans naming ceremony' upon himself, and finally weds himself.

As they finally finish their horrific display, they all look at the agent with a grin and yell in unison "Taa daa!"

For the longest time, the agent just sits in silence. Finally, he manages, "That's a hell of an act. What do you call it?"

And the pope says, "The Apostolics!"

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Book thread

ITT: /christianlit/

I think this chart could use some work, folks.

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Orthodox understanding of atonement and salvation

I was looking up the differences between Catholic and Orthodox and came across this.

>Original sin is understood differently by the Orthodox, who do not see it as the inheritance of guilt passed down from generation to generation, but rather an inheritance of a fallen condition of humanity. This difference affects the Orthodox understanding of baptism, the Virgin Mary, the Atonement, and the whole approach to sin and salvation.

>After Rome’s separation from the rest of the universal Church in 1054AD, it adopted a new, previously unknown view of Christ’s atonement for sin called the “Satisfaction Theory of Atonement.” Following the theology of Anselm of Canterbury (1109AD), the view holds that God was offended by man’s sin and required reparation (satisfaction) to be made before He could forgive man. Since man’s crime was committed against the infinite God, the payment would also have to be infinite. Therefore, Jesus Christ made satisfaction through the Cross, restoring God’s honor and undoing His being offended. This teaching is rejected by the Orthodox who view Christ’s voluntary sacrifice as the expression of God’s love and a means of rescuing man from death, not God from being offended. The Satisfaction Theory makes God the problem, not man. The focus becomes God’s need to be appeased rather than man’s need to be healed. In effect, it turns the atonement on its head, requiring God to change, not man! The Orthodox hold that it is man who needs repentance not God.

http://www.wenorthodox.com/2012/08/whats-the-difference-between-orthodox-and-catholic-or-protestant/

Could some Orthodox expand on this? The Catholic view is the only one I've ever known(despite technically being a Protestant) so this is a bit difficult for me to grasp.

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Can/should a Christian play video games?

Does it depend on the content of the game and/or if it's an addictive activity to you?

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Are Assemblies of God and other Pentecostals churches a scam? Would they be considered Christian by the standards of this board?

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Lets have a trinity thread.

I am culturally atheist/pagan, but I consider myself a Christian, but still searching.

I've read the New Testament twice, and recently started reading the Old Testament.

I accept that Jesus Christ was the Son of God and died for our sins. But from Scripture I just don't read that he is God.

His pre-existence is sketchy, I find it most plausible that the Word was God's plan to spread the good news, and Jesus was that vessel.

The man Jesus Christ did not perform miracles on his own will, but through the Holy Spirit with the authority given to him by God.

Where does it say that the Holy Spirit is a separate being? I see it as being a personification of God's power and spirit.

How do you explain 1 Timothy 2:5 as a trinitarian? It clearly lays out an unitarian relationship between Jesus and God.

The often-quoted "Only God can forgive sins" passage is just a joke. Trinitarians are siding with the Pharisees. The whole point was that Jesus proved them wrong -"the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins."

Jesus was given the authority by God to forgive sins ON EARTH.

But still, even though Scriptural support for the Trinity is non-existent, why did the Christians at Nicea arrive to the conclusion of the Trinity? Is Islam actually right and all the events going on in the modern world are God's punishment for idolatry?

Or are both stances correct and the Trinity is just a very weird way of exalting God's son without it technically being idolatry?

Help me out guys, I'm just having trouble with my faith.

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Does anybody else here lose instant trust in somebody when they confess they do not believe in God and that its all a lie/general neckbeard redditor rant?

I don't know why but i lose all trust/respect in that individual, like i know they will inherently try to fuck me over, not for believing in God, in these times i keep that to myself unless somebody says they believe first.

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Misanthropy

I know I'm no saint, and I can, and am just as unpleasant as others. But, the fact is, I'm getting to a point where my disdain for others is becoming intolerable. At best I feel absolutely nothing for anyone(even friends and family). I pray for others, fast, go to confession and always try to attend church, but nothing improves. My disdain for people is starting to warp my perception of God. I really don't know what else to do.

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>made in the image of God

>each human is one person in one being

>God has three persons hypostatically meshed in one being

why aren't we 3 persons in one being? so we can relate to God better and be made in his image proper…that would be so cool

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Who actually listens to Voris?

I know he's gay, and I know he's repented right after he got caught but he also come's across like a total prick

Does he actually give good analysis?

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Is anybody on this board an actual pastor/priest/monk?

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Music

what genres of music are not satanic?

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Clement of Rome and Sola Fide

http://dennis-ingolfsland.blogspot.my/2009/11/this-afternoon-i-presented-following.html

How would you answer Catholics?

I will also provide my reply as I go through this

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why is transexualism becoming more and more popular, when it comes to porn tastes and as a way of life?

our grandparents didn't even know what a tranny was

do you think satan is behid this phenenon?

does this hype for traps exist also irl? or is it just a chan/internet thing? I have to ask because I'm a ghost irl

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Jesus Christ Superstar?

Is this musical blasphemous?

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Swedish church pushes for neutral gender reference to Jesus

https://www.rt.com/news/414642-swedish-church-jesus-gender/

>Protestants

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Some background info:

I went to my highschool's alumni gathering/dinner last night, as I haven't seen my school friends in almost two years. Note that these two years after graduating from school have been a very wild ride for me. I've changed so much physically and mentally, and I am thankful for it. I have become closer to God and I have become stronger spiritually, so I believe. When I was in school I wasn't "that much of a Christian",if you know what I mean. I rarely used to go to church, only doing Christmas and other related times of the year, I would masturbate and watch porn almost everyday, and overall I was your typical degenerate I would say. I used to have "ambitions", I guess of losing my virginity in college and so on. I met my friends again, where most of them are still studying abroad. They told me of the great times they had there, partying, drinking, smoking, and having fun. One of them lost his virginity this year, and I was shocked honestly.

The whole point of this blog was to ask you /christian/, how do you deal with the increasing amount of degeneracy in the world, and hw do you deal with more and more people straying away from Christ? Keep in mind that all of my friends were/are Christians, but it seems that when we graduated from school they all changed. I don't imagine myself having sex before marriage anymore. When I asked them this, they asked my why I should wait till I marry to have sex and not before. It seems that I might be the only one in this group of friends that will wait, and try not to indulge in any self indulging pleasure. How can I remain like this /christian/? How can I not turn out like my friends? It just feels so weird and surreal.

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Happy New Year 2018 Anno Domini Christanons

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Thoughts? How does one come back at this?

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Greetings friends, I understand that there were many threads like this made, however I do not seem to have saved any of them. I am going to purchase a new Bible soon, and I would like to ask you guys which one is the best, in terms of of least translation mistakes, if you will, to choose from. Is pic related a somewhat good summary? Thanks.

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Ummm, is Christianity the one true religion? And if it is, then what denomination is the most accurate as far as Christian principles are concerned? I just don’t want to believe in lies all my life which is why I’m struggling to find the one true religion. Only one of them can be real.

Regards,

Deistanon

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Q source?

Did Matthew and Luke use the Q source? Why hasn't it been found yet though? The "Gospel of Thomas" proves that proto-Gospels like the hypothetical Q source did exist.

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My mother is old and is suffering from the pains of old age. I plan to grow cannabis to alleviate her pain. What are your thoughts about this?

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>inb4 based traditional Godly black Pope

Would be great imo tbh

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Paul is greater than Allah!

The Quran and Muslim scholars affirm the reliability of Paul. But the Apostle Paul condemns Muhammad.

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What do you guys think of the whole Ark of Gabriel enigma? For those of you that don't know, the Ark of Gabriel was allegedly discovered under the Hajj Mosque (Kaaba) in Saudi Arabia around a year or two ago. It was discovered when the workers were renovating the Mosque, and when dug, the crane fell, killing one hundred people. In addition, the workers tried to dig up the ark again a year later, in time for the Hajj, and this is when those thousands of people died, due to the stampede, or so they say. After it was dug up, it was taken by Russian Naval Forces to Patriarch Kirill, and when the Pope and Kirill met in Cuba in that historic meeting, it was said that Francis gave Kirill a book from the Vatican Archives pertaining to this Ark. After this meeting, Kirill traveled to Antarctica to pray at the Orthodox Trinity Church there, the only one present in Antarctica. What do you think of all this? This may seem /x/ tier, but I really don't think it is since it does involve Christianity in it. It is interesting guys. Could Islam have been different than what it is today? I would like to have a discussion about this.

For reference:

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/482764/ark-of-gabriel-russia-saudi-arbia-mecca-grand-mosque-ancient-weapon-Admiral-Vladimisky

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2016/02/the-ark-of-gabriel-antarctica-russia-and-the-apocalypse/

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Gnosticism?

How much of a meme is Gnosticism and why do some on /pol/ promote it?

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God´s Aureola looks like a Rainbow

THE BOOK OF THE PROPHET EZEKIEL

1 Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I was among the captives by the river of Chebar, that the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God. 2 In the fifth day of the month, which was the fifth year of king Jehoiachin's captivity, 3: The word of the LORD came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the hand of the LORD was there upon him.

4 And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire. 5 Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man. 6 And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings. 7 And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf's foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass.

8 And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings. 9 Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward.

10 As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle. 11 Thus were their faces: and their wings were stretched upward; two wings of every one were joined one to another, and two covered their bodies. 12 And they went every one straight forward: whither the spirit was to go, they went; and they turned not when they went. 13 As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps: it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning. 14 And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightning.

15 Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces. 16 The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel. 17 When they went, they went upon their four sides: and they turned not when they went. 18 As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four. 19 And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up. 20 Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels. 21 When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.

22 And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above. 23 And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, which covered on that side, their bodies. 24 And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: when they stood, they let down their wings. 25 And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their wings.

26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it. 27 And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about. 28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.

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Did you confess love to anyone?

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WARNING, BLOG POST INCOMING

> tl;dr Edward Feser, Jordan Peterson, Judaism, Christianity, math, philosophy, doubt, suicide

Hi /christian/. I need to ask you for a favor. You're the one community on the internet that may be able to help me, due to the various currents that feed into this place. I'll try to start from the beginning, but forgive me if I am jumping all over the place

Basically, I want out.

I've wanted to kill myself for years, but have never followed through with it due to what it would do to family and friends. It’s not that I have a bad life, if anything I have been blessed far and above 99.99% of the world's population, which makes me feel even worse for wanting to die. I was born into a very stable Protestant home with four siblings, and have been blessed with above average intelligence and facial features. I did exceptionally well in school, and study in a STEM program at university which will undoubtedly place me in the upper middle class (if not upper class) if I follow through with it. I am not the best with girls or socializing, but I do okay, and I'm healthy, don't have any debt, and don't have any addictions or drama in my life to speak of (no unexpected pregnancies, loan sharks, drug dealers etc.