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Rules and Meta

Glory to God in the highest!

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And now there remain faith, hope, and charity, these three: but the greatest of these is charity.

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Didn't see a qtddtot in the catalog, so I'm creating one. I'll start it off with this question. Is sodomy between a man and a woman sinful?

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Purity Thread/NoFap

27 You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Matthew 5:27-28

19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 1 Corinthians 6:19

8 Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Galatians 6:8

Post your Purity successes/woes/prayer requests/ etc.

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>What is this thread?

The designated political discussion thread. Christians from all parts of the political spectrum are encouraged to discuss relevant political topics and ideas, as well as ask questions and hopefully recieve answers from all points of view. Anything related to politics that doesn't actively involve the Catholic/Orthodox/Protestant churches should go here, so if a politics thread is deleted, this thread is the reason why.

As a reminder:

All board rules apply to this thread, so keep things civil.

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Prayer Requests

“But I have prayed for you, that your faith would not fail. And you, when you have turned back, strengthen your brethren.”

Luke 22:32

Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition with thanksgiving, let your requests be known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your thoughts in Christ Jesus.

Philippians 4:6-7

Confess your offences to one another and pray for one another in order to be healed. The insistent prayer of a righteous person is powerfully effective!

James 5:16

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Map your spiritual journey

>raised protestant (Church of Christ)

>agnostic at 13

>atheist at 14

>gnostic occultist at 15

>protestant (Church of Christ) again at 17

>Orthodox at 20

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I just have a few questions surrounding miscegenation that I cant find any suitable answers to. Im asking primarily from a Catholic standpoint.

1. Is miscegenation a sin? If so, why?

2. Is it a sin to be opposed to miscegenation? If so, why?

Thanks in advance for any help.

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UK gov declares Christianity not a peaceful religion to turn down a convert

>The Home Office refused asylum to an Iranian who converted from Islam to Christianity because it said that Christianity was not a peaceful religion.

>The Iranian national claimed asylum in 2016, but was turned down, with Home Office officials saying his conversion from Islam was 'inconsistent' with his claim Christianity was a peaceful religion - by highlighting violent passages from the bible. They said that the Book of Revelation was “filled with imagery of revenge, destruction, death and violence”.

The statement concludes:

>These examples are inconsistent with your claim that you converted to Christianity after discovering it is a 'peaceful' religion, as opposed to Islam which contains violence rage and revenge'




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I know lust is a sin, but however I don't understand why masturbating to porn is looked down by God.

I'm looking for a serious explanation.

I'm just ignorant on the bible and would love a serious explanation on why lust and porn is a sin.

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Pastor Anderson completely BTFO


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Orthodox Church of Ukraine

In this thread we'll post updates in Ukraine and their newly founded church so we don't have to derail the Orthodox general

The news are running like crazy and i think many people haven't yet realised the significance of the event.

We can also discuss our objections to the autocephaly if anyone has any. All opinions welcome but please try to be civil and elaborate on your disagreement.

Catholic opinions also welcome but please try to stay on topic.

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Who were the most autistic Christian figures, be it in the Bible or outside of it

Not completely in the insulting way, but one that displays very odd behavior and even ones that are symptoms of autism

Ex: Martin Luther

>constantly thought sexual images of Satan (more of an OCD thing)

>played with his own literal shit (a trait of autism)

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Weird question

So I’m a huge fan of 60s rock, but the musicians who made it often lived less exemplary hedonistic lifestyles and embraced weird new age satanic spirituality. I hate the idea that these people who have enriched my life might be denied access to God’s kingdom, so I’d like to pray for their souls.

Here’s what I’m wondering, ordinarily you pray for the souls of the recently departed, and usually the recently departed person is a family member or friend you knew personally. Other than that, you might just give a vague “Lord have mercy on all your departed servants.” Would it be wrong to pray for specific people who died decades ago, people who I never knew or met personally? Would it accomplish anything, or would it just be wishful thinking on my part? Is there any formula for such prayers, or is this so unheard of that nobody method of doing so has been devised?

I says classic rock stars just cause those are the specific people I’m thinking of, but I’m sure someone else on /christian/ looks up to some historical figure without being confidant that person is saved, so I think this is a worthwhile discussion to have

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What’s the deal with Jan Hus?

Apparently he’s like a proto-reformer, and also some Orthodox consider him a saint? What was his theology? Why was he burned in the first place? Is he a saint?

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Come on over to /holypol/ a place do discuss politics and christianity.

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We will never live on another planet or in a space colony since the Revelation prophecies takes place on Earth and they are not completed yet and for people to be able to leave and stay away from Earth for the rest of their lives would mean that they can cheat their fate or that God would have to make sure every off world human is dead and make sure no one else gets off Earth in order to begin the prophecies. If you think there is a possibility of living off world while the prophecies from Revelation is going on without the things I mentioned then please do explain

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Hello. I was born into a Muslim household. But I want to become a Catholic Christian. The problem is I have only limited time due to work. I can visit a Catholic Christian country only for a week up to a month. Can I get all the important sacraments this way and be saved?

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What is Gog and Magog? (Video is Islamic view). What is the Christian view?

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How do we convert India?

How do we convert India and rid the entire continent from idols?

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Is the Easter Bunny pagan?

Are Easter eggs and the Easter bunny pagan?

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What is heaven really like?

I know a lot of people believe that Heaven is a place without pain or hardship of any kind, but I find that extremely hard to believe. Not only do I think that man needs hardships to triumph over for his own well being, but Heaven is where the Angelic Rebellion took place and that certainly couldn't have been painless.

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How the hell is raising your hands in the air and getting all emotional for like an hour while a guy screams verses out of the Bible worship? There is no cult, no sacrifice, no priests or liturgy, no prayers to follow along to, no chanting of psalms. Do you think the priests in the Temple back in the days of Solomon were doing this? Do you think the early Christians were doing this when they gathered for the Eucharist? Seriously Protestants, especially of the charismatic type, baffle me.

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Pope Refuses Resignation of Cardinal Convicted of Covering Up Sex Abuse


What's his problem, honestly?

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I see many people here struggle with overcoming masturbation and pornography, I had that same problem and used to do it on a daily basis, but now it's already been over a month since I don't do any of this, and I feel I should spread the name Saint that helped me overcome this. He's Saint Expeditus, a military Saint from around the same period as St. George.

I just randomly upon his name while on the internet and got curious since I had never heard about him before. I got very inspired by his story and prayed for him to intercede for me. That turned out being very good, I deleted any porn from my computer, and differently from the other times in which I had done this, I didn't wanted to download them again. Sure sometimes I got tempted but never went for it again.

I'm much more disciplined now and decided I should spread his name, I'm not going to tell his history here since you can find it in much more details on the internet but I highly recommend any Christian to go look for it, even protestants who may not believe in his Sainthood but I still hope would be very inspired by his story.

I also encourage anyone to come here tell any story of overcoming vice through prayer or similar experiences involving you or someone you know.

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Baha'i Here

Can you educate me more about your religion? I am studying the prophet Jesus. :)

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Oh Canada!

A third of Canada's churches will close over the next decade. That amounts to about 9,000 religious spaces that will no longer be in use.


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Debunking Evolution

Greetings, brothers, and sisters in Christ. I was wondering if we could have a general thread for debunking evolution. I'm still not completely sold on it just yet.

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I don't know if I'm strong enough to make it guys, I'm just too degenerate. I'm pretty sure very few will actually make it out of this world alive, but I know regardless of what happens that in the end the beautiful and true will prevail. Christ will be the eternal celestial monarch and restore creation, and those saints that persevered in this life are beautiful souls.

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Meme thread

New meme thread because the old one is autosaging, starting with a request: I need the exploitable 8ch logo, have this crop in return

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feels thread

talk about your recent /christian/ feels

>tfw i realized i'm too idealistic to fit in with the degenerate normie masses, but still too degenerate and broken to ever fit in with real life tradcaths

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Christian Music General - /CMG/

Post your favorite traditional Christian music of any genre. Here are a few of my favorites:

Great Gospel song from the greatest singer:


Not solely Christian, but helps me remember to not fret about Earthly problems as much


The crown jewel of Handel's Messiah, makes me tear up every time


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Orthodox General


This thread is to help all the Orthodox anons on this board to gather their thoughts, uplift each other, share edifying materials, and ask important questions.

Glory be to God in all things.

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner.

Useful Links

Ancient Faith Radio: http://www.ancientfaith.com/

OrthodoxWiki: https://orthodoxwiki.org/Main_Page

Canons of the Seven Ecumenical Councils: http://www.intratext.com/IXT/ENG0835/_INDEX.HTM

The Orthodox Church in America: https://oca.org/

Orthodox Christianity (a site that hosts articles predominantly written by clergy): http://orthochristian.com/

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Is Football a Christian game?

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Question for protestants

What is the Biblical basis for the trinity being co-equal?

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what is the best english translation of the septuagint?

And also, whats the most respected oldest manuscript of the original greek?

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Books general

What books are you reading at the moment?

What are you up to?

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Why did Jesus have to die?

Came across this video and am starting to have some doubts, was it because of our own free will throughout history that made it so the only way God could save us was through dying on the cross?


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Relationship general

Post your successes/troubles.

The responsibility is yours. Since you're the man you are the driving force behind starting a relationship. It is your job to do the first move as it is to lead all other moves.

Women seek stability. A woman is like a flower that grows towards God. A man is more like a stick. He can direct the married couple towards God. If both of them are flowers, then they stay in mud.

>Be yourself

Be confident about who you are. It will give you a special aura around yourself

>Work on your confidence

Start at nofap thread, eliminate porn and masturbation from your life. Increase your testosterone levels by working out…./fit/

>Get hobbies

If you lack interests, you are less interesting to women. Women want men of action.

>Visit places where high quality women hang out

Church, library, your hobbies…

>Become more educated about your faith

If you want a good Christian girl you should study scriptures. If she takes her faith seriously she will probably be impressed.

Your future wife probably will not just appear out of nothing and ask you out. It is your job when she appears all of sudden to be confident enough to ask her out and handle that situation.

Purity thread:


If any of you guys have some useful meta, please post it so we can include it in the future to the OP.

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Are there any theological contradictions that make your faith tremble from time to time, /christian/s?

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How do we destroy Islam?

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Who created the creator ?

One of the most common christian arguments to debunk the godless theory of the creation of the Big-Bang, is to say that "what is, cannot come from what is not". In other words, it is absurd to say that "atoms formed" out of nothing and yet from itself, and that those atoms exploded and created the universe…And thus, there must have had a creator, a God which created the universe, or created those atoms if you stick to this specific theory.

It's a very convincing argument against atheists Darwinism…But the next logical question is: Who created the creator? Who create God? Did God come from itself? If so, how could he have been created from nothing and yet from itself? Is there a creator of the creator? And if so, who created the creator who created the creator ?

We can continue like that at the infinity…

Is it the point that we have to just have faith in God? Because I'm ok with that, but I wanted to know if there is a rational explanation to the creation of God. What we are sure, with the argument used above to debunk the theory of the Big-Bang, it is that we have the certainty that there is a cause, that there is a creator to this universe…Which we call God. But who created God and who or what is the creator of all the creations ? Is it the same God that we are talking about ?

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Do other religions share the same moral foundation of christianity at their core (in some sense) or do other religions contradict christian beliefs in a fundamental sense?

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Haven't been to mass since Ash Wednesday

Should I go to confession before receiving the Eucharist this weekend? Is it necessary?

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Catholic General


The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for general Catholic discussion. Mass, readings, rosary - everything that is connected with the faith.

Other denominations welcome, although we politely ask you to keep the arguments about our theological differences in other threads.

Useful links:

Official Vatican website: www.vatican.va

Today's readings: www.ewtn.com/daily-readings/

Papal encyclicals: www.papalencyclicals.net

Catholic encyclopedia online: www.newadvent.org/cathen/

Summa Theologiae of St. Thomas Aquinas online: www.newadvent.org/summa/

How to pray the rosary: www.rosarycenter.org/homepage-2/rosary/how-to-pray-the-rosary/

Divine Office (liturgy of the hours): www.divineoffice.org/welcome/

Little Office of the Immaculate Conception: www.catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?p=1925

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explain this.

If you only need to accept jesus as your saviour to enter heaven, then what's the point of doing good deeds, helping the poor and doing charity?

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Trying to give Christianity another go

At one point I felt very drawn to the religion but after extensively looking into it, and attempting to commit to it I've basically fallen away.

Making a sort of last ditch effort here: what convinced the majority of you here who are converts / christians who returned to the religion? What are your conversion stories? What helped you overcome doubts? Also what denomination are you if anybody answers this.

And to those who have consistently been Christian what's the basis of your faith?

I'm basically on my last legs here with it so I figured I'd post this and similar threads to see if I end up with any sort of sign.

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Can we say that the Trinity is the most Perfect and Accurate depiction of LOGOS ?

Can we say that the Trinity is the most Perfect and Accurate depiction of LOGOS ?

Is it possible to be more LOGOS than that ?

God the Father is Logos

God the Son is Logos

God the Holy Spirit is Logos

So it means that the most complete and perfect representation of Logos would be the Trinity ? The Logos of the Universe.

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Owen Benjamin interviews E. Michael Jones

I know we talked about Owen Benjamin before here. He just interviewed E. Michael Jones, who is popular here, so I thought this deserved it's own thread.

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If once saved always saved is true then how can we have a “falling away” as Paul wrote in 2 Thessalonians 2:3? Granted we are justified by faith as described in Romans 3:26-5:4 and that if we confess that Jesus is Lord and believe that God raised Him from the dead then we will be saved as written in Romans 10:9 as salvation is a free gift of God so that way we can’t boast about gaining it by works according to Ephesians 2:8-9. However though with all gifts they can be rejected or thrown away so I would say yes one can lose their salvation but only through rejecting or renouncing Christ .

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Autism and Christianity

I don't know how many autistic people actually post in this particular board, but I feel a need to ask. As someone with autism, how on Earth am I supposed to be comfortable, or even content, when it comes to practicing Christianity? I can do stuff like pray and read the bible, but stuff like going to church or confession make me a nervous wreck because I don't like dealing with big crowds or singing or just badly following along what everyone else is doing. It doesn't help that I'm constantly asking myself if I'm following the right sect of Christianity. I understand it started with Martin Luther, but I keep asking myself if following the wrong sect of Christianity is worse than not being religious at all? Autistic people on average do well with set goals/actions, and when there's so many different possibilities to not just the sects, but to the meanings of different parts of the bible, some of which conflict, that I start having panic attacks thinking about it. Don't even get me started on the parts about converting people, I've been told that I'd be a terrible motivational speaker.

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Throughout the Gospels, Jesus is primarily concerned about the Jewish people. He does a few miracles for Gentiles dogs, since dogs must get a few crumbs now and then, but mostly he sticks to his own. In the Gospel of John some Greeks want to meet with Jesus, but he has no time for them.

The book of Acts and some of the Pauline letters detail a schism between Paul and the Jerusalem Church. There was initial disagreement with acceptance of Gentiles coming to the Church. They say the winning side writes the history, and in the case of Christianity, the winning side writes the Bible. One could justifiably claim that the generally pro-Roman stance of the Gospels, and Paul's justification for Gentile believers, are modifications due to the fact that the Gentile believers inherited the faith when Jerusalem was wiped out. So you get universal declarations to all mankind, which might be putting words in the mouth of Jesus.

But the fact that Jesus was almost exclusively interested in Jews, and there was initial concerns about Gentiles, what if Christianity is a massive presumption on the part of Gentiles, and they are in fact illegitimate. Of course Christians make all kinds of justifications, and trust all kinds of warm and fuzzy feelings that God is on their side etc, but remember Jesus's teaching about false disciples: "Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!"

Of course every believer has the conceit that they are special - they are a true disciple. But what if they are like the false disciples, who will be cast away?

This lack of legitimacy must subconsciously gnaw at some groups, so you get Black Hebrew Israelites, and others who believe themselves to be of the lost tribes. And you get Exclusive groups who shun outsiders and who believe they are the only true believers.

So if one were to entertain that Jesus even exists, there is no security for the gentile believer. If people who truly believed they were disciples can be cast away, what makes YOU so sure?

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I failed to remain pure of lust for 3-5 days. 3-5 DAYS!! I want to break free but i'm scared of dying alone. I want a faithful loving wife and kids. I want a purpose to my life. TO HAVE MEANING!!! where have most of the faithful women gone. i want someone who will protect me and vice versa. I want someone who will teach me the faith( i'm catholic) and nurture me our kids. All I see are degenerates faithless miscreants. I have Aspergers and I live in the woods so i'm alone most of the time. I don't know what to do.


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Baptist Thread

Re-making this thread since the last one died recently

The Gospel

>1 Corinthians 15:1-4__

"Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

>Romans 10:9-10__

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

Baptist Confessions, and Statements

London Baptist Confession of 1689 (Calvinist): http://www.ccel.org/ccel/anonymous/bcf.pdf

Baptist Faith and Message (Arminian Inclusive): http://www.sbc.net/bfm2000/bfm2000.asp

Notable Modern Baptist Teachers

Albert Mohler: https://albertmohler.com/

James White: https://www.youtube.com/user/AominOrg

John Piper: https://www.desiringgod.org/

Leighton Flowers: https://www.youtube.com/user/MrLeightonFlowers

Robert Truelove: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQPPHf_DdqfJP5RyosVxhZA

Steven Anderson: https://www.youtube.com/user/sanderson1611

William Lane Craig: https://www.reasonablefaith.org/

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Hello, friends. Without wanting to start another thirty years war, which denomination do you follow and why? Personally I am unsure, I went to a church of England school and have been many times to both a protestant and Methodist church. I am interested to hear any and all arguments for all denominations.

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Saying grace before a meal

Should I say grace for everything I eat, even if it is a snack? How often should I say it throughout the day? Do I also need to say grace for drinking water?

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How do I pray the Rosary? i tried praying it but I don't know how to meditate on the mysteries. i don't understand them at all. :'(

also i don't know if i'm going to heaven. i was angry at god and cursed the trinity. is there hope for me? i'm confused about my faith and don't know what church to attend. PLEASE HELP ME !!!

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I'm not sure if I should post this in another thread, but I'd assume with religion comes panic attacks, whether they be religious or otherwise.

Lately I've been suffering more panic attacks. I'm trying to stop fapping, and on the third day my mind and body start racing with negative thoughts. I start to think about fapping, but panic attacks make me tired and I just go to sleep. That's not always a viable option though, like if I'm driving or if I'm at work. Every time I have a panic attack, I start thinking about religion. I'm not sure exactly why; it could be my personal fears about dying or maybe it's a message from the lord, or the devil playing tricks on me. I believe in Jesus and a higher power, but Hell has always been difficult for me, simply because I can't understand why Satan, who attempted to overthrow God as the king of Heaven, would then become a torturer of souls. The leap from one thing to another doesn't make sense to me. However, in the end, I do fear death, as it sometimes makes me feel like my actions that may help others either does not matter, or are selfishly done in hopes of being granted entrance to His kingdom. I find it funny that I feel more at ease doing good deeds without thinking of the lord then I do with Him in mind.

So in a roundabout way, I'm asking how anons deal with panic attacks and stress in relation to religion. Sorry if I already posted this, I might be having issues with the image I post in the OP.

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I know that suicide is a sin, but what about taking actions that, while not directly causing death, increase my chance of death? These actions include eating unhealthy food, not exercising, and smoking. I don't want to live a long life.

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UK Homr Office Denied Christian Convert Asylum. Quoted Bible to Show Christianity isn’t Peaceful


Remember this. This person converted from Islam and risked death, and the UK said Christianity is a violent dangerous religion and denied entry on that basis.

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In the process of begoming Orthodox, what should I be reading / doing to prepare?

I don't want to be rushing my priest through the Christmation / conversion process. I'm currently in the process of getting my baptism cert. so I can show it to my priest.

Are there any parts of the Bible or any good books I should be reading at this time for my conversion? What should I be doing?

I don't want to rush the process but I am also anxious to go to confession and get the eucharist. What do?

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I hear everyone on here always pissing and moaning over "Rabbinic Judaism" and the Talmud. But have you guys actually ever read the Talmud? I'm not defending it or anything and it does contain some blasphemous stuff about Jesus and Mary but really other than that all it is is a bunch of Rabbis debating over how to interpret the law of Moses and also how the law was practiced in the time of Jesus. For example, it tells us that the Passover lambs were slain at 12:30 PM (half past the 6th hour) if Passover began on the Sabbath It also tells us how to Sanhedrin worked and stuff. A lot of is pretty harmless so what's the fuss? How is Rabbinic Judaism different from ancient Judaism minus the Temple? I am genuinely curious.

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What is the most effective counter to anti natalist propaganda?

And why is anti-natalism being pushed so hard by media and pop culture?

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I know there are many Christian anons here, honestly, stop attending the /pol/, that environment is toxic.

Right now there was a thread about an anon that got blackpilled to death by shills on that website. Apparently he took his own life.

I prayed a reprimand for their work, including the dwarfs who may have been innocently affected, I did not open the secrecy, and I left the site.

I do not know what's wrong with that chan, but I've often noticed shills putting negative energies there to harm others unnecessarily, I've even seen a webm on thread that showed subliminal satanic messages.

As Philippians 4: 8 warns us,

Philippians 4

8 Conclusion, dear brothers, absolutely everything that is true, whatever is honest, whatever is fair, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is good, if there is something or worthy of praise, Think about this. 9 All that you have learned, received, heard and seen in me, practice; and the God of peace will be with you ''

Let us not fill our heads with malice, evil, negative and demonic thoughts, nor with the works of the devil.

May God bless and keep you.

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E Michael Jones and Owen Benjamin Live on the JQ

Check this out, very cool. Owen Benjamin was raised Catholic, got red pilled about the JQ. Currently professing to be a Christian, unsure about the Catholic Church. Pray for him and check out the live stream.

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can u anon share with me debates between christians and non christians (atheist, muslims, jews, agnostics, etc)?

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Opinion on Celibacy?

Hello /christian/ anons,

I was wondering what you guys thought specifically of:

celibacy until marriage


celibacy until you find the 'right person', (but aren't married)

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>This exists

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What do you think of the seminars by the Westar Institute?

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How many of you are converts?

I was thinking about this recently. How many of you guys (or just Christians as a whole) are Christians because they converted, and how many were born into it?

No I do not consider you a convert if you were a fedora and then came back later in life. I think you are truly a convert if you have no prior experience in Christendom.

Do you ever wonder about things like this? I have been seriously thinking about this. When I came back to Christ I largely discarded most other religions, and didn't pay them much mind, whereas if I were raised another religion I know for certain I would have looked into that religion and discarded most others.

No idea where I am really going with this, I guess I am just trying to verbalize my thoughts.

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>if you're a homosexual I hope you get brain cancer like Ted Kennedy

Now was this called for? Are all Christians like this?

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Broke up with my gf. We had premarital sex

I really thought she was the one I'd marry. I lost my virginity to her. What do now? I committed a big sin

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AUSTIN, Texas (CBSDFW.COM/AP) — A Roman Catholic priest in Austin has been arrested on a misdemeanor assault charge after he was accused of groping a woman in home hospice care while giving her last rites.

Austin Police arrested Rev. Gerold Langsch and charged him with assault by contact stemming from the October 5, 2018 encounter.

The 75-year-old priest is free on $15,000 bond. If convicted, he could be sentenced to a year in jail and fined up to $4,000.

Police contend in the arrest affidavit that the woman was in hospice care for complications from diabetes when Lansch went to her home to administer the sacrament of anointing the sick, a sacrament of absolution.

The woman, who is still alive, reported that Langsch first anointed her chest with holy water, then began to apply lotion, massaging a breast, pinching a nipple and asking “Does that feel good?” He then tried to slip his hand inside her diaper but was unable to.

The woman later told police the priest’s actions left her in shock, uncomfortable, confused and feeling like, she told police, a “nasty, dirty piece of meat.”

In a statement Wednesday, the Catholic Diocese of Austin said Langsch had been pastor of St. Paul Catholic Church in Austin until last month, when the diocese “received an unrelated report that he had failed to maintain proper boundaries with an adult.”

The statement said that report did not involve any physical contact. Nevertheless, the diocese removed Langsch from his post and deemed him no longer able to serve as a priest in the diocese.

The diocese said it will cooperate fully with police and asks anyone with information about the priest’s actions to notify police.


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What would you do if?

Hypothetically lets say tomorrow Pope Francis resigns and the college of cardinals decide to randomly select a practicing catholic man from a computer. You win the jackpot and become Pope and are elevated to the pontificate. What would you do? What would your papacy be like? What name would you choose?

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Are some of you ex-muslims that converted to christianity? If so, what did your family say about it? Were they angry? Or worse?

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Transgender Advocate Attacks Statue of Virgin Mary

Transgender Advocate Attacks Statue of Virgin Mary.

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At what point does someone become irredeemable? Short of taking the mark of the beast, is it ever too late for a man to redeem himself?

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Thoughts on Calvin?

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Is the use of psychedelics sinful?

Is it a sin to use psychedelics? What about just microdosing where there is no possibility of encountering spirits? What if while tripping you completely refuse to talk to any spirits?

I do know that tripping allows demons to speak to you, but I wonder if its redeemable whatsoever. I did read one interpretation of the Old Testament that manna (Exodus 16) is identical in appearance to mushrooms. Also sorry for the DMT Ape Man talking point but what about the burning bush? It seems there is some precedence for psychedelics to be used in order to communicate with God or His messengers. Perhaps if you scrutinized and tested each entity you encounter ( 1 John 4:1) you may avoid displeasing The Lord. Here is a relevant excerpt from Orthodoxy: Religion of the Future by Seraphim Rose.

>"St. Gregory of Sinai was careful to instruct his monks on the dangers of these experiences: “All around, near to beginners and the self-willed, the demons are wont to spread the nets of thoughts and pernicious fantasies and prepare moats for their downfall….” A monk asked him: “What is a man to do when the demon takes the form of an angel of light?” The Saint replied: “In this case a man needs great power of discernment to discriminate rightly between good and evil. So in your heedlessness, do not be carried away too quickly by what you see, but be weighty (not easy to move) and, carefully testing everything, accept the good and reject the evil. Always you must test and examine, and only afterwards believe. Know that the actions of grace are manifest, and the demon, in spite of his transformations, cannot produce them: namely, meekness, friendliness, humility, hatred of the world, cutting off passions and lusts — which are the effects of grace.Works of the demons are: arrogance, conceit, intimidation and all evil. By such actions you will be able to discern whether the light shining in your heart is of God or of satan. Lettuce looks like mustard, and vinegar in color like wine; but when you taste them the palate discerns and defines the difference between each. In the same way the soul, if it has discernment, can discriminate by mental taste the gifts of the Holy Spirit from the fantasies and illusions of Satan.”

Yet at the same time I wonder if I am just being to expedient. I used to trip but stopped when it became clear to me I was in communication with demons and I needed to re-conceptualize everything I knew about psychedelics and the spiritual world. The spiritual warfare you undergo while tripping is compared to the spiritual warfare of monks. Am I being retarded for thinking that I, a lousy sinner, have enough fortitude to resist demons when seeing them face to face when it is difficult for monks to?

Regardless of myself, should there not be a Christian guide for those who do wish to undergo tripping to warn them of what they might encounter and how to resist the prelest that follows ignorant acceptance of the half-truths of demons?

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How do Protestants cope with their Church being less than a millenium old?

No offence lads, obviously there's a lot more to denominations than something this superficial but it seems so basic to me that the Church that came first has to be the rightful one.

At first glance I would say there are only two potential apostolic branches, the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church, prior to them Christianity has been united so it's natural to conclude that when two Churches came out of The Great Schism that seperated Christendom, one of them has to be legitimate, simple as that.

And to decide which one is legitimate one needs to look into the scripture, study holy tradition, the doctrines/teachings of both Churches, read the Church Fathers etc and then I think one can make an informed decision on their own on which they deem to be legitimate.

So then what is the draw to Protestant denominations who are all clearly material reactionary developments of their time?

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Cultural/Heritage sites?

What would be done about pagan cultural or heritage sites like the Taj Mahal (muslim), the egyptian pyramids (egyptian polytheist), or Itsukushima shrine (shinto) in the ideal future global Christian theocracy?

Will they be razed and wiped out, or would they be preserved like museum pieces?

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Solving The Problem of Evil

After the mosque shooting, some of my atheist friends have debated with me about the classic problem of evil, as in why an all-loving GOD allows what appears to be unnecessary suffering, and I'm curious as to how to approach this issue without having said friends become hardened from the glory of GOD.

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Were psilocybin mushroosm the forbidden fruit of the garden? I've heard they're what made us self aware beings knowing good and evil….

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Becoming Catholic

Hello! After a reasonably long period of thought, I have decided that I want to change my faith from Anglican to Catholic. To Catholicanons, how can I become a Catholic?

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Can the Totenkopf be used as a symbol by Christians or is it inherently pagan/satanic?

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Are we atleast in agreement here that the Pretrib rapture is heretical bollocks?

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I have a friend who believes in the "God doesn't give you more than you can handle" meme. What would you say to such a person?

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How do we deal with extreme deformities and disability?

Brothers, I am in need of help. I am struggling to deal with the horrors of birth defect/deformity like pic related and video related. I am part of the Orthodox Church, and I am wondering if there is a Church teaching which allows for doctors and families to mercifully let these children die. Wouldn't it be torture and evil to medically keep these people living? Wouldn't we be creating a hell on earth for them?

I haven't struggled with my faith in quite awhile, but seeing videos like this makes me want to cry and makes it hard to rationalize how our God–being so loving and merciful–wants us to keep these things alive.



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Lent /ck/ thread

Greetings siblings in Christ! With the Lent season upon us I was wondering if y'all have any good recipes to share. Let's face it, salads can get pretty boring pretty fast. So I wanted to share this super simple and suprisingly delicious recipe I just tried.

Roasted Onion

>1 onion

>pinch of salt


All you do is put the whole onion (uncut, shell and everything) on a baking sheet or stone and bake it in your oven @350 degrees (F) for 30-40 minutes. Thats it. Once baked you can cut it and put some salt on it and enjoy it with a biscuit or a cut apple.

I know our Orthobros have more strict guidelines, but that usually means they get more creative with their recipes. So please, Catholics and Orthodox please share some delicious recipes that you know of so we can help each other make our Lenten fasts less boring Prots are welcome to contribute as well

God Love you all.

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Anything to prove Christianity Is THE Truth?

I’m a Christian having doubts with my faith, mostly because I’ve forgotten my apologetic arguments a while ago. It’s fairly easy to prove the existence of a God, but proving there’s a God doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the Holy Trinity, when there’s many other monotheistic religions. Can /Christian/ reaffirm my faith in Christ?

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Was Luther cursed?

Revelation 22:18-19 (NIV):

18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.

>Luther adds “alone” to Romans 3:28

>Luther also takes away Deuteronomical books

Do I take it that he fell victim to this curse? Is there any evidence in his life to point to that?

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Ethiopian Orthodox?

Thoughts on the Ethiopian Orthodox strain of Christianity?

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I tried being Christian again

I had two months where I listened to Steven Anderson and defended Christianity…mostly because I was scared since I am going to die.

But even though I am still going to die i can't accept Christianity. I still accept Jesus but it's all bullshit.

We end up nothing

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Sup 8chan.

I am a Catholic and a senior in high school at the moment, and have been trying to figure out what on earth to do with my life beyond graduation. Since I was quite young my family has pushed the usual "major in engineering at the best university possible, make 100k plus a year and have two kids" stuff on me, as expected. In a quite unasked for series of events, I have found myself very apathetic towards the idea. I do not really WANT to live my life amassing money and being depressed in a country club like my father did. I have examined other routes to take, but have found similar problems with them.

I have had this nagging feeling in the back of my mind that I should look into a life with the Church. I do not know if I am being called to the priesthood or something of the sort, and no part of me has ever particularly been drawn towards a life based solely on religion until this year. Yet I still have that draw dragging me towards a life involved with religion over a more typical life.

I do feel reluctance towards further examining and committing to life in some vocation stemming from one source. I AM AN ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE HUMAN BEING. I go to confession weekly, sometimes more if I can. I have been futilely struggling with the same few sins for years on end and I am not in the slightest bit worthy to even begin thinking of leading a religiously bound life.

SO, in summary, "What do?"

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Need Copy of Codex Alexandrinus in regular type (old testament only)

Where can I find or buy a copy of Alexandrinus in regular type?

Amazon sells a copy of the new testament only, but a facsimile… making it really hard to read: https://www.amazon.com/FACSIMILE-ALEXANDRINUS-TESTAMENT-CLEMENTINE-Readability/dp/B00A2G04MQ

Is this going to be a wild goose chase like looking for a copy of codex Vaticanus?

I want to read the oldest manuscript of the old testament. Please help!

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The absolute state of the Lutheran Churches

>women clergy

>openly homoseuxual clergy

>homosexual marriage

>pro refugees

>removal of masculine pronouns in liturgy and hymns

>churches empty

Should I just give up and convert to and actual church? Would hate to leave but its becoming a joke.

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It is noted that much of the prejudice you have here about the Seventh-day Adventist Church is due to the lack of knowledge you have about it, viewing it as just another church with modern Mormon-style prophet-beliefs. Having said that, I decided to create this thread to answer (or at least try to answer) any questions you may have about the SDA, so maybe we'll move the shadows away from this topic.

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UPDATE: Japanese Worship Buddhist Robot at Ancient Shrine…

And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? (Revelation 13:4 KJV)


Kyoto, Japan’s ancient former capital, is home to temples, shrines, and imperial gardens. As the birthplace of Japanese tradition, the city attracts some 53 million tourists every year. Recently, the famed 400-year old Kodaiji Temple in Kyoto unveiled a modern makeover. The world’s first sutra-chanting android deity, modelled after Kannon the Buddhist Goddess of Mercy, was introduced to the public last week. Kannon is worshiped by thousands of temples in Japan as a deity who helps people in distress; now the country’s fascination with robotics has made its way into that worship.

Kodaiji Temple Administrator Tensho Goto wanted to spread the word of Buddhism to a younger generation losing touch with the tradition. He enlisted the help of pioneer Professor Hiroshi Ishiguro, head of intelligent robotics at Osaka University, who has made a name for himself in robotic research on the world stage. The resulting android version of Kannon, named “Mindar,” stands on a pedestal at 195 centimeters tall (6 feet, 4 inches), weighs 60 kilograms, and is made with silicon and aluminum. Like many of Ishiguro’s popular telenoid robots, Mindar takes a gender-neutral human form. The appearance is kept to a bare minimum — almost like a naked robot. But as an android embodying the Goddess of Mercy, Mindar had special features designed to evoke both feminine and masculine qualities. With an open head of exposed aluminum wires and a mechanical lower half, Mindar might not be how some would picture a robotic Kannon. However, the plain facial features give room for visitors to use their own imagination in how they’d like the deity to appear.

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>“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will know them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Just so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire. So by their fruits you will know them.

>Matthew 7:15-20 (NABRE)

This passage is unironically giving me a mega-blackpill crisis of faith given what's going on in the church:

>Child molesting

>Perversion of tradition

>Political intrigues

>A new sex scandal every other week

On one hand, in an intellectual way, I get it.The church militant is a hospital of sinners, not a temple of saints. There will be sinners. There will be sin. We were only promised that the church wouldn't fall, not that it wouldn't be under attack from both within and without. It has weathered arguably worse popes.

On the other hand, where's the break point? Part of me is worried that there is going to be either a formal or an informal schism if/when Francis or his immediate successor finally becomes guilty of manifest, formal heresy either accidentally or on purpose after being a bit too progressive, and it's not going to end well because where there was one church, there will now be two since there's no protocol nor historic precedent for what to do with a heretic in the seat of Peter. Both claiming to be the proper one, both necessarily filled with sinners, both hopelessly degraded beyond what we had even a few short decades ago.

And so I ask - how do you avoid writing off the RCC entirely? Their fruits seem increasingly rotten.

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Always Remember

As long as the Society does not have a canonical status in the Church, its ministers do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church.

In order to make this clear once again… the Society has no canonical status in the Church, and its ministers – even though they have been freed of the ecclesiastical penalty – do not legitimately exercise any ministry in the Church.


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"Love one another, as I have loved you"

In spite of that, why did christian monarchs go to war, convert others by the sword, and other atrocities? Did Christ ever slay a man on earth?

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Why do so many modern Christians subscribe to this cancerous neo-Marxist perversion? These same people also claim that rule of law doesn't exist - "God will punish them", so therefore it absolves us of any responsibility to stop tolerating evil among us. These people are also pro-immigration and pro-race mixing and strongly believe that we should have to tolerate the increasing crime that these people bring. I suspect these are the same people who also tolerate open gays in the church. Does God not show himself in his works? If your cities are becoming filled with crime and your community is breaking down, is this not indicative of your wrong-doing?

Here are some of the passages they love to quote

>Leviticus 19:33 - And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.

They neglect to mention that a sojourn is a temporary visitor, a tourist.

>Matthew 22:39 - Thou shalt love thy neighbor

But they ALWAYS omit "as thyself". I hold myself to a certain standard of behavior, I expect the same for others.

>Galatians 3:27 - For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ

>Galatians 3:28 - There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus

Most of these problem people have not been baptized. Furthermore, this does not pertain to rule of law. Man and woman are one in Christ but we know the Bible states the woman is subordinate to the man. By this same reasoning we can conclude it also does not apply to law of race.

Now I have some I would like to present

>2 Thessalonians 3:11 - For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

No welfare parasites. God helps those who help themselves.

>Matthew 6:24 - No one can serve two masters. For you will hate one and love the other; you will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

Cheap immigrant labor is not compassion, it's profit driven. Often times I here these heretical arguments "but who's going to my mow lawn?"

>Genesis 11:7 - Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.

>Genesis 11:8 - So the LORD scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city.

God wants separate tribes of people.

>Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them

>Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Furthermore, there is a distinction between MAN (of Adam) and the Beasts, which I will illustrate:

>Genesis 1:24 - And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

The Beast is after man, God's kind.

>Leviticus 20:16 - And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Why would blood be upon an animal? Because it's not talking about an animal.

>2 Peter 2:12 - But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

>2 Peter 2:13 - And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;

>2 Peter 2:14 - Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:

>Zechariah 8:10 - For before these days there was no hire for man, nor any hire for beast

What sort of animal seeks employment? Again, this is not about animals in the sense we are thinking.

>Ezekiel 5:17 - I will send famine and wild beasts against you, and they will leave you childless. Plague and bloodshed will sweep through you, and I will bring a sword against you. I, the LORD, have spoken.

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Unforgivable sin

what is it? Is it rejecting Jesus?! not the guy that does this regularly. what is it? I'm FREAKING OUT?! :'(

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I want to believe

I want to believe so bad but the universe does not need god to explain it, as far as I can tell. I have many questions.

>given what we know about neuroscience and cognitive science, how can I believe there is a soul?

>given the article “Physics and the Immortality of the Soul” by Sean Carroll, how can I believe there is an afterlife?

>given that almost all philosophers of note are materialists, and that Swinburne -assumes- dualism in his proof of god, how can I believe that there is anything about man that isn’t physical?

I’m really struggling here. I want to believe so bad. I’ve been an atheist a long time and a loved one passed. But I can’t believe on the basis of “a transformative personal relationship with Christ” like one pastor recommended. Send help.

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The person you just got done arguing with……………………… would you wash the feet of that person?

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>Moloch worship isn't rea-

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Why Catholicism?

Hello /Christian/,

I am an Anglican from birth and was baptised an Anglican by my parents, but have not really started thinking seriously about faith and salvation until recently.

My question to this board, is whether I should develop my faith within my Anglican home and church l, or whether I should convert to Catholicism? I realise that this is quite a serious issue, as most catholics I have encountered have told me that even if one lives a life of piety and goodness in faith outside the Catholic Church, I will go to hell.

On the one hand, I have the same problems with the Catholic Church as most Protestants have had over many centuries. I question the doctrine of papal infallabilty, due to the corruptible nature of man. I question the perceived ability of priests to forgive sins, as I struggle to believe that anyone bar the Lord has the power to forgive sins. I also struggle to believe in the notion of ‘no salvation outside the one church’, as the idea of good and faithful Protestants going to hell, including my own family, seems unpalatable and unacceptable.

Maybe I just don’t have the information, but I know this is quite the catholic board, so feel free to give your case and clear up any misconceptions you think I might have.

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Is Paying Income Tax a Mortal Sin?

So, I posted something similar on reddit, but I want to pool as many ideas on this topic as possible. If we refer to Romans 13, we get a simple rubric for legitimate princes that we should pay tribute to. However, if a prince does not follow this rubric, then they cease to be a legitimate authority, and it seems as though we are not supposed to support such a government. A legitimate prince can even be rapidly narrowed with one verse:

Romans 13:3 — "For princes are not a terror to the good work, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? Do that which is good: and thou shalt have praise from the same."

So if a prince is a terror to good works, then they are not actual princes, and therefore, have no legitimate authority from God to govern us. Here is where it gets a bit complicated. In Luke 23:2, we are told of the claims against Christ by the Jews: "And they began to accuse him, saying: We have found this man perverting our nation, and forbidding to give tribute to Caesar, and saying that he is Christ the king." This is a triad of accusations that is unique to the Gospel of Luke, and it is strange to find because at least two of the accusations are true. It is true that Christ perverted the nation of Rome from its pagan ways, and it is also true that Christ is our King. So I am left thinking why it also would not be true that they found Jesus forbidding them to give tribute to Caesar.

The concept of the morality of paying income tax to illegitimate princes is made even less clear with Matthew 22:21-22, which is when the Pharisees and Herodians entreat Jesus to hear whether it is lawful to pay tribute to Caesar or not: "They say to him: Caesar's. Then he saith to them: Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God, the things that are God's. And hearing this they wondered, and leaving him, went their ways." Why would the Pharisees and Herodians "wonder" at this statement if it should be a clear proof of paying taxes to Caesar? Furthermore, if the Pharisees took this as proof that you should pay income tax, then they would have accused Jesus of idolatry immediately. Jews were not supposed to pay tribute with coins bearing graven images back then. They wouldn't "wonder" and then walk away.

So now we come to modern day income taxation and our governments. I will use the US government for simplicity. If Jesus were to see us paying into a government that spills the innocent blood of babies through subsidies to Planned Parenthood, would He command us to just "render to Caesar"? Or would He call our government illegitimate and forbid us to pay tribute, as is outlined in Luke 23:2?

About two of the four sins that cry to heaven for justice are rendered by the US government through tax payments. Government-sanctioned sodomy through legalized same-sex marriage, and the spilling of the blood of innocents through abortion. I am not sure if our government defrauds labourers, or if it oppresses populations through slavery and marginalization. Anyway, I want some thoughts from you guys on the morality of income taxation in our modern environment.

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Why do Zionist focus so much on the physical or geographical location of Israel so much?

Why can't they cut their losses, and establish an Israel else-where such as a geographical location where tribes haven't been squabbling and shedding so much blood over thousands of years to conquer, and will do so to the end of time?

If they think God is so powerful, why not choose a geographical location such Alaska? Do they honestly think that the entity that created the universe couldn't locate this new israel, or ask for directions to find it?

There was even a senator who suggested carving out a piece of Texas to establish a new Israel.

I don't see the point

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DMT "entities" might be demonic


Be careful, this is a long read.

Please stay safe and never do drugs, brothers.

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Im so weak

I made a point not to masturbate during lent

I even stopped smoking and eating chocolate that were other of my addictions all together

Until I failed a test, a job interview and 2 shootings happened (one in Brazil and one in New Zealand) and that made me really really stressed, so I just did

I know I shouldnt be making excuses but still, its maddening bros please pray for me

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How the fuck do people convert those who follow Eastern faiths.

I was thinking about this for a bit and this thread came up. It's about a former Muslim that left Islam and tried to get into Christianity, but prefers Eastern religion and philosophy. He says that their philosophy and arguments are much more sophisticated and he said that he can't believe that a Jewish dude (Jesus) would be born Jewish if White European Western culture is the best. He also doesn't understand why Jesus claimed to be God. I'm sorry if this is retarded, but Eastern religion is a strong force.


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Can mathematical and scientific production be forms of worship?

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Help with breakup

Hello Brothers/Sisters, i would like to request some prayers and guidance for me, a man (22) who has been in a relationship for almost 3 years.

I posted a couple of times here for relationship advice with her, but i guess this was the straw that broke the camels back.

About an hour and a half ago, my now ex-girlfriend broke up with me, so apologies for the format of this post, im still quiet shaky.

I must say that she was the apple of my eye, i focused a lot of my life around her, i lost my virginty to her, as did she, we watched anime together (weeb, dont shame please), we made dinner together even though she stayed at her parents not too far from mines, we just did everything together for the last 3 years, she was the reason i stopped masturbating everyday and stopped watching porn. We met on tinder (yeah i know, however it was the day she downloaded it) june 23 2016, and she was very shy, i liked her from the first day, about 2 months later, my mother passed, and she helped me through an extremely hard time in my life. She helped me move on, find a place to rent by myself, took my side.

Recently shes been a bit distant but still kept contact and called/texted everyday, until she suddenly fell ill before our restaraunt reservation. Next day i found out that she felt sick going to something that she didnt want to go to.

She said that she felt unhappy, and stated many reasons which i debunked, but she was stubborn. I need her so much that i begged her, which i regret now. She shed some tears, she knew that i loved her, yet she still said no.

This happened once before, about a year ago, but she said that if id improve then she would stay with me, which is when i stopped with self rape.

I feel it definetly is my fault, i have been going down a downward spiral recently, depressed and tired, failing the course which is very unenjoyable and she said she doesnt want to be dragged down with me. I felt like the love she had was probably gone.

I feel awful, empty inside, the other half of me was taken, yet i see an opportunity, im trying to be positivem i feel like this is a chance to become more failthful, closer to the lord. I havent been the most faithful, i havent been going to gym, and i have been slothing around. Could i get some advice/guidance on how to read my orthodox bible more, how to attend a church in my area, as there is only catholic and protestand churches here, how to become more willing and how to become closer to the Lord, could i please get some prayers, for me and for me to pray. I just need some help.

Thank you if you've read this far of my venting.

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Only on 8chan

This is my first time in 8chan/Christian so I hope you'll all give me the benefit of the doubt and allow me to demonstrate to you that I am a true and legitimate follower of Christ.

This is the only chan that I know of anywhere on the Internet (except for those few, rare chans that are exclusively Christian chans) that actually has a Christian board. I have never seen another. Anyway, I hope you'll all welcome me as a brother in Christ with humility, Agape and joy that we all share in a life in Christ.

So, as the image suggests, how would you describe those parts of your life in Christ as making it worth it?

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Is there a sect of Christendom I can join that will allow me to eat bacon every day of the week and let me to dance when I want to? Preferably one that doesn't abide modern globohomo degeneracy.

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It's another one of those threads

So one thing I've been thinking a lot about this place and it's clear prejudice towards people of colour. I remember a thread here a while back about if people would mind if there was a black pope and a lot of people, if not everyone, was against it. Some tried to justify it by saying "does he care about immigration levels" and what not while others just said out right no. This super nationalism you all have has made me wonder. What would you do if you had a daughter who decided to date outside her race? Would you mind? I have a feeling that a lot of people here would say no and even if there is a explicit verse in the bible where it says stopping two people who love each other from marrying on the basis of race is a sin, as numbers 12:1 states, you still would go for it. I feel like this is the eye of the needle for many Christians. The man who came to Christ and said is there anything I can do to attain eternal life Christ says follow the commandments then the man replies with "I've done that" then Christ says give up all you have then the man says he can't do that. His eye of the needle was his wealth and I think that people on the net's eye of the needle is their nationalism.

How do you deal with this? Do you pretend like it isn't an issue and just hope God will let you off or just scrap Christianity all together because it doesn't conform to your political ideologies?

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How come street preachers tend to be either former addicts or have serious skeletons in their closet?

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Serious question.

How do you reconcile your faith with the discoveries of modern science? I mean Biblical cosmology, at least in Genesis, views the earth as pretty much just land under a dome with the eternal waters of chaos surrounding it and the sun and moon and stars within the dome making that pretty much the whole universe. Later in early Christian times, under influence from the Greeks, Earth was seen as the center of everything with the seven planets (the moon, the sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn) revolve around it in seven different layers. Later it was discovered that Earth and the other planets (except the moon) actually go around the sun and that's it's not a planet but a giant fusion reactor fire ball 1,300,000 times larger than Earth. Then it was discovered that actually there are many other solar systems out there besides ours, millions even billions or trillions! Then only in 1929 was it discovered that other galaxies besides our own exist, again possible millions and billions. Einstein's theories make it probable that the universe is infinite (though this doesn't make an infinite amount of matter) and there are probably trillions upon trillions of galaxies out there. On top of that numerous earth like planets have been discovered. On top of that quantum fluctuations predict a universe that can create itself out of nothing…. So seeing that we humans are extremely insignificant within the grand scheme of things and that actually we are not the center of it all how do you reconcile this with your faith?

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S. Patricius

St. Patrick, pray for us!

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MLV, what does /christian/ think

I read almost exclusively from the MLV. I have a KJV and a few other bibles but for me MLV was always the best.

What does /christian/ think. Is the MLV the way to go? Is it really the most accurate English translation?

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the power of look

Seeing one's eyes can tell a lot about a person. It is curious how much people can tell about you just from the way you look/your overall attitude.

I had an experience:

Me and my friends were having a party, playing some game which was….at the very least very very offensive to social conventions, but even to morals.

See I am not the kind of guy who goes around moralizing people, trying to appear sanctimonious. I do wear a cross on my neck but it is concealed under my clothing. When someone asks, I say that I go to church etc. I make no bones about what I believe if it comes to a debate but I do not advertise myself freely.

Here one of the friends, we never talked about religion, we barely know each other. But I noticed she does not like me very much instintcively. Seeing her library once at her place I noted she has plenty of secular/Enlightenment books along with Churchill books, then liberal stuff.

So we played the game and she did not want to take the turn because as she said "she would probably insult my beliefs" Taking look at what she had in her hands it was something like "The Bible is literally a sh*t" or along the lines

That day I understood you do not need to say anything and people get who you are just the way you present yourself, sometimes.

Not trying to make this my blog. I am curious if you had a similar experience. I had a few of them, similar ones. Also I do know few people who give off similar signals even though they do not mention being Christians.

Did something like this happen to you also?

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Would it be best to get off 8chan?

I’m not any kind of radical or anything, I just want a normal life. The only board I use is /christian/, aside from sometimes arguing on the /islam/ board. Is there any possibility the law might start cracking down on this place? There have been like two or three mass shootings now associated with this place. I’m only here cause I like this board more than reddits terrible “Christian” boards. Would it be wiser to get off 8chan?

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Someone on 4/pol/ told me the effects of baptism include heightened consciousness, heart opening bliss, illumination. Is that true to some extent? Can orthodox or Catholics confirm?

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Modernism, Catholicism, advice needed

Hello /christian/

I am in the process of joining the Catholic Church, and I was assigned a sponsor recently. He's a boomer but he seems like a nice enough guy. We spent a few hours together at a spiritual retreat and one of the first things he said to me was that "I think Marx was right" and "If Social Security is Socialism then I'm a socialist". I didn't know what to say. I told him that I'm not a socialist and every time socialism has been tried it ends up in the murder of millions. He said something about the Magna Carta and we both just dropped the discussion.

How is it that someone can be a Catholic for decades and not understand that Marx and Socialism are mortal enemies of the Catholic Church? How can he be so ignorant of his own faith?

For some background, I'm a 25 year old college student. /pol/ initially woke me up to what's going on in the world today, from there I started reading old books and reactionary blogs. I would call myself a reactionary in my political views today. I'm a business administration / economics major, probably going to go into the banking industry. (Yes, I know usury is a sin but people do need financial advice). Obviously being a Christian isn't about having certain political views, but I'm seriously dumbfounded as to how an inveterate Catholic can be so ignorant of the fact that Socialists have wanted to destroy the Church since Socialism was even conceived of. What the hell am I supposed to do, /christian/? People of my political persuasion can't go around stating our views publicly or we're going to get fired. I thought at least in the Church people wouldn't be so full of the insanity of clownworld, but lo and behold my assigned sponsor is namedropping Marx as if that's going to impress me. Well it's certainly impressive, though not in the way he thought it would be.

Do I correct him? Do I find a new sponsor? Do I just shut up and keep my head down? I'm getting sick of biting my tongue, I hate the modern world and everything it stands for. What can I do about it, though? I have to be able to provide for a family some day, and no one is going to hire me if I tell the truths written in old books.

Please give advice, /christian/.

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What do you do when you feel like God has left you

As I move on in life, this feeling keeps happening as the stresses of work and being an adult pile on me.

Where you can't feel the Holy Spirit, and feel like you've done something, maybe recently or in the past, that has made God leave you to suffer

How do you get through it?

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Do we have any Anglicans on this board?

I'm genuinely curious what's the draw to the Church of England and how come one can consider it the legitimate Church of Christ.

Do people adhere to it just out of a sense of comfort?

Is there a sort of "national/native faith" draw to it?

What are your thoughts on recent developments in the Church of England?

Given that the split from the RCC was 100% a socio-political development to my knowledge, are there doctrinal differences between the RCC and Anglicanism that evolved over time, if so, what are some major differences from a purely theological standpoint?

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Atheism and darwinism comes from father deprivation

Interesting /pol/ thread here.


Atheism and darwinism comes from father deprivation

People like Sigmund Freud, Voltaire, Nietzsche, Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, … They all have something in common…

They all had a defective, weak or absent father.

And I mean it's pretty much obvious that if you don't have a healthy relationship with your father, then he won't pass you strong and healthy moral values…And then, people ask themselves "what's the purpose of life ?" and then, they fall in meaninglessness, moral relativism and thus degeneracy..Why do you think that there is so much degeneracy, liberalism and atheism in places like Reeedit ? Because they had very poor parental development in their critical childhood phase and in their teenager phase, and it makes them weak and vulnerable to this society that promote (cultural) Marxists values like "God does not exist, Religion is the opium of the people…There are no objective moral, no objective truths, it's all relative, it's all meaningless, just have as much degenerate fun as you want, play your video games all day, watch TV all day, masturbate all day and watch porn all day, life as no meaning anyway".

When you think about it, it makes total sense.

Many famous Atheists/Darwinists have daddy issues. It feeds their irrationality.

See here between 33:35 - 45:00 .


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Anyone know of any good Christianity related or even religion in general podcasts or YouTube channels that have long videos I can listen to while I do some grinding in a video game? Christian stuff preferred of course, but religion in general is still interesting.

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What…or who is wormwood? I read a story about wormwood and it scared the crap out of me. I'm not usually scared by stories or movies. the only thing that scares me is ANYTHING involving revelations.

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Regulars Rise Up

Share the posters you notice here:

>The catholic that always says "pastor jim" as his stereotype of a protestant

>The guy who coined his own term "bible idolatry"

>ID 1c98e6 who's a mod apologist in the meta thread

>The orthoLARPer who adds a completely unrelated icon to all his replies

>The guy who plugs the other board whenever someone is upset with a deletion here (always gets deleted)

>The New IFB false-flagger who makes fun-posts parodying the Anderson cult (and people fall for it)

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Methodist Church to schism.

Americans to split with United Methodist Church over same sex marriage.

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How does sedevacantism make any logical sense?

>John 23 not a real pope

>all of cardinals, bishops, etc appoint by John 23 invalid and not real cardinals

>Paul 6 not a real pope

>same for all his appointments

>repeat for JP2, Benedict 16, and Francis

So at this point, if you've got no legit cardinals in the Vatican, and basically no legit bishops, then basically, there can never be another legit Pope, cardinal, bishop again. What does that mean for the Church?

How does this even make any sense?

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Am I living my life in sin?

hey /christian/ I really need advice I have prayed almost everyday in my life for Jesus to guide me and I still to this day struggle with one thing. I am a trans woman and I have been transitioning since I was 16 I have been depressed my whole life until I started transitioning. My father's side of the family is very religous so i never told them i was trans as a kid and hid it until I couldn't take it anymore. My grandma has been the biggest influence in my and taught me everything I know about god and what to do in my life and I have taken it all to heart and still follow everything she taught me about charity especially. I try my best to live my life as holy as possible. I never lie, I never cheat, even on small things or anything because I truly wish to live my best life for god. I just feel like me transitioning is disrespectful to god even though the bible never says anything about it to my knowledge. My family is supportive on my dad's side and I have been very open to them about it and I have even taking my grandma's name as my middle name to show how important her teaching me about God has been in my life. I would just like guidance and want to do what god wants me to do but I am simply not a man… and I wonder does that mean I will never truely be a child of God? I have tried everything to be normal but it's not possible without me thinking of hurting myself which is definitely not good either.

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Father Quotes

Post your favorite quotations from the fathers, on any subject.

>The mere mention of the sufferings that wrought our salvation is enough to quench distress, even at its worst. Those sufferings were all undergone for humanity. Our Lord did not destroy death to make one body victorious over death, but through that one body to effect our common resurrection, and make our hope of it a sure and certain hope. ~ Theodoret

>Repel the assault of sorrow by the thought of Him who wisely administers all the affairs of men, with perfect knowledge of the future and right guidance of it for our good. Let us join in the joy of him who has been delivered from this life's storms. Let us rather give thanks because, wafted by kindly winds, he has cast anchor in the windless haven and has escaped the grievous shipwrecks whereof this life is full. ~ Theodoret

>Let us be spiritually-minded: let us be a perfect temple to God. As much as in us lies, let us meditate upon the fear of God, and let us keep His commandments, that we may rejoice in His ordinances. ~ Barnabas

>The Lord will judge the world without respect of persons. Each will receive as he has done: if he is righteous, his righteousness will precede him; if he is wicked, the reward of wickedness is before him. Take heed, lest resting at our ease, as those who are the called [of God], we should fall asleep in our sins, and the wicked prince, acquiring power over us, should thrust us away from the kingdom of the Lord.~ Barnabas

>No one gives the name of sheep to those who fall in battle with arms in hand, and while repelling force with force, but only to those who are slain, yielding themselves up in their own place of duty and with patience, rather than fighting in self-defense. ~ Tertullian

>Who else, therefore, are understood but we, who, fully taught by the new law, observe these practices,—the old law being obliterated, the coming of whose abolition the action itself demonstrates? For the wont of the old law was to avenge itself by the vengeance of the glaive, and to pluck out “eye for eye,” and to inflict retaliatory revenge for injury. But the new law’s won’t was to point to clemency, and to convert to tranquillity the pristine ferocity of “glaives” and “lances,” and to remodel the pristine execution of “war” upon the rivals and foes of the law into the pacific actions of “ploughing” and “tilling” the land. ~ Tertullian

>It is therefore impious to desecrate the symbol of manhood, hairiness. But the embellishment of smoothing (for I am warned by the Word), if it is to attract men, is the act of an effeminate person, if to attract women, is the act of an adulterer; and both must be driven as far as possible from our society. ~ Clement

>Let us teach ourselves first to walk in the commandment of the Lord; and then our wives also, to walk in the faith that has been given unto them and in love and purity, cherishing their own husbands in all truth and loving all men equally in all chastity, and to train their children in the training of the fear of God. ~ Polycarp

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Can't stop fornicating with my girlfriend

I've been in a relationship for around 2 years now, and many times my Christian girlfriend and I have fornicated even though we both try to stop. The only times we have a big conflict are after we fornicate and she always gets crazy with guilt and regretful over sinning. I don't feel as bad about it as her, but I try to stop it anyways, but every now and then we cave in and end up sinning again and again, and it's gotten toxic. We feel too young to be married (19 and 20). I'm also doing nofap and having a hard time (no pun intended) dealing my libido, as well as my girlfriend's. The current cycle of fornication and regret we're in is putting my girlfriend through hell, so something needs to change. Should we break up and get back together when we're ready for marriage? Is there a way we can get married now but not by the government (we really love each other and could see ourselves getting married)?

Can anyone else relate?

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Sola Fide or no????

Faith + Works = Salvation or Faith Alone = Salvation? Which is it? Because I have seen Protestants and Cathodox use the same Bible to prove their soteriology. Also does repentancr matter if faith alone is true because a Baptist told me repenrance he believes salvation by faith alone and says repentance counts as a work so it's no necessary.

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Weed is fully legalized in my state for full recreational use of adults 21+. I am above 21. Is it still a sin if I smoke a little bit?

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>biblical literacy is at an all-time low

>Normalization of discrimination against Christians is at an all-time high in the west

>both of these continue to increase

How do we reach out to the doomers and the zoomers to reverse this trend? Not to mention our window to convert millennials is closing fast.

I think the general approach western Christians take is too out-of-place and far, far too pushy. Plus, in-your-face methods such as being out in the street preaching has only the potential to jade hundreds of souls away from what the word truly offers.

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Is wearing a cross tacky? I have a simple cross I ordered and planned on buying a simple chain for it. Is it stupid to wear them? If not - under or over shirt?

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Gospel Forgeries

Apparently the four gospels are not actually written by the apostles they are named after? Is there a refutation to this to show they were? Or that even if they are not, then that is OK?

Been reading Bart Ehrman. Maybe not the best choice for someone like me who is so shaky in faith. But this is the kind of stuff that troubles me the most, so I feel like if I can read this stuff and get through it without it destroying my belief, then nothing would ever risk that again.

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blessed dom justo takayama pray for us

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I think I need god

Hi anons,

I been having a ton of trouble with life since I can remember. I've always been vulnerable to lifes poisons such as lust, greed, and just general hedonism. I want to know if Christianity can help me find a good path. I have a ton of hate, resentment, and jealousy in my heart. All of this has created a deep depression and nihilism.

Can christianity help me bros and if it can where do I start?

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Did Jesus ever say there will be no prophets until the second coming or anything like that? How do we know that there won't be more sent?

I don't really have any other pic to post, so sorry.

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Hey /christian/, if you were possibly going to jail for 6 months up to 1 year or more…what version of The Bible would you take with you to read? I really like Orthodoxy more than anything, perhaps you could point me in the right direction? I'd sure like something in written word to pass the time if I were in such a situation.

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Further Ammunition Against Old Calendarism Wanted.


I was the anon that made the post about being a soon to be ex-Old Calendarist getting ready to jump ship, and wanting to give winning over the members of my soon to be ex-parish to the real Orthodox church at least a good old college try before I depart. The earlier post I made got deleted for some reason. Mods, please let me know what rules I may be violating before deletion.

Some kind anons already provided me with some good resources in that thread:


(^This link is especially powerful and ironic, since the "True"/"Genuine" Orthodox absolutely idolize the monks on Mt. Athos.)


I have also been watching videos from the channel of vid related for excellent resources and counter arguments against Old Calendarism.

One of the most powerful pieces of ammunition I've found in said videos is how the Old Calendarists have deliberately misrepresented ROCOR. The so-called "True"/"Genuine" Orthodox present ROCOR as former "Old-Calendarists"/"Anti-Ecumenists" who have "sold out" since reuniting with the Russian Orthodox Church around 2007 IIRC. This couldn't be further from the truth. They merely ceased communion with the Moscow Patriarchate due to the rampant Sergianism going on due to the Atheistic Communist Government at the time. Even then, they never denied the graces of the Moscow Patriarchate, in the same manner as the "True"/"Geniune" Orthodox refuse communion and deny the graces of the canonical church. Ironically, when I was made a catechuman, I was given the Saint name of John Maximovitch of Shanghai and San Francisco - who himself, not only never denied the the grace of the canonical church, but served and had communion with New Calendarists.

I think my one major hurdle I need help in overcoming is that more than likely, the parish members will come back with the World Council of Churches issue. Basically, in several homilies, the priests and bishop have utilized canonical Orthodoxy's association with the WCC as a "gotcha!" and as evidence of their supposed apostasy/schism. Considering how much they've lied about already, I know this is taken out of context or warped in some way. What is the real truth of this matter that I should present them with if they try to hit back with this?

Other than that, I think the only things they might resort to are swallowing camels to avoid gnats (i.e. "pews!" "less fasting!" "priests without beards!" etc.) Or trying to lean on how the New Calendar transfer was not handled well (but still not a justification to just up and split and deny grace without a proper synod case.)

Any help would be appreciated.

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I'm so SICK OF IT.

I ALWAYS felt that porn and masturbation were wrong ever since I touched it around my 12-13 years old with anime hentai at first.

As soon as I became 16 years old, it was very evident to me that masturbation was harmful and that it weakens you, and I even formulate the hypothesis that masturbation and porn were used has a weapon of mass psychological warfare, to control people just like that Matrix in the first movie. Yet, nobody was agreeing with me in the internet at the time, so I thought that maybe I was just pushing it a little too further? But now by discovering EMJ, I know that I was very right from the very beginning about my instinct, that masturbation and porn were very harmful.

Anyway, more than 8-10 years later, I yet still fap at least weekly but usually 3 times per week, and I also watch porn from time to time and it makes me crazy…And know that Porn is extremely evil, and now I know that it's actually for a fact that it's a mass psychological weapon and I know the real people behind it (The Jews), and I know that they do it to degenerate the moral, to degenerate the people, to weaken the people, to make people blind and energyless…

And yet, I can't help myself…When the "time" comes, my brain simply shut off and I can't recall any of my morals and any of my values against masturbation, I just feel like an animal without any rationality. It makes me sick seriously, I facking hate it, I facking hate to masturbate, I know it's evil, I always sensed that and I always knew that something was wrong, especially with the whole promotion of sexuality by school and the promotion of sexual liberation and pornography (already between 8-10 years ago). And thanks to EMJ, I know that for an absolute fact now.

So why do I still struggle so much? I'm getting sick of it, not being able to free myself from this dark prison.

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What do you think of the new Roosh V?

He was a socially awkward young man who did not hit puberty until 18, and he didn’t have sex in college. He said he overcompensated and spend about 15 years traveling and having casual sex with countless women.

He said he started adding novelty to it, like he had to sleep with a woman who didn’t speak English. Then, he wanted to get two women on separate occasions in one night, and he said that’s when he knew he hit a wall.

He says he was giving into his animalistic side, and by writing casual sex guides, he was helping the elites control people by making them slaves to their genitals. It should be noted he still sells these books.

I think two other factors played a role in his transformation. In 2016, he was attacked by the media for a thought experiment article he wrote saying prevent rape by making it legal on private property, then women won’t go home with strange men. I think after being attacked he started researching into how the world works today and what the elites’ goals are.

The other factor is his sister died young of cancer recently.

His new book Lady is a guide for women who don’t want to have casual sex or party, but want to start a family. He talks about God at different times in the book, saying love for God is important.

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Is HIV/AIDS from God?

Or rather, is HIV/AIDS God's ever present form of punishment for those committing the sin of sodomy?

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What to do about youth church

Ok so I am an older teenager, I try to go to the youth church group but I feel like something is wrong. I noticed at a church in my hometown that people were on their phones during service, they weren't even on Bible apps either (lol). They were like on Snapchat and all that crap. It actually got to the point I was getting distracted from service due to their foolishness. The youth pastor even mentioned something about the phones (this was over a month ago so I don't quite remember) and they pretty much ignored him. It actually was so bad I wanted to leave church early.

And I notice that a lot of the people there are lukewarm Christians. They believe in that "Jesus was a hippie!", being gay is OK, etc kinda PC crap. It genuinely disgusts me.

And then I notice that people are just there to socialize during service.

Stuff like this is why I just go to normal service instead of trying to make friends.

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Is Christianity an urban religion?

I'm referring to a Pagan perspective that made me think a bit.

The topic was about rural and urban lives and beliefs, and it came up that Paganism is rural in it's essence, there's lots of nature spiritual larping involved and thus it cannot prosper in an Urban environment without being bastardized and degenerated into something else.

While Christianity on the opposing side as more of an urban religion since large communities gathered together are something that's encouraged, and while Pagans usually have their spiritual dwellings in forests, mountains and such, a Christian's place of spiritual refuge is obviously in a church.

A church cannot be found just anywhere, for it to exist it requires a larger willing and practicing community to gather, build, maintain attend etc and even a source of authority to be present at almost all times in the form of a priest, so a church isn't naturally found simply and the conditions for it to exist have less likelihood of being fulfilled in a non-urban environment.

So the conclusion was that Christianity lends itself better to an urban environment and urbanites as opposed to general European Paganism and thus it makes more sense to be a Pagan if you live in a non-urban environment while it makes more sense to be a Christian if you're an urbanite.

Is there any truth to this?

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Am I going to hell for fornication?

>26 years old

>2 christened children with very long term girlfriend

>marriage on the books but waiting for finances to improve

Can I repent or am I doomed?

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Questions about Catholicism

Prot here, wanting to learn more about Catholic Church. I’m a sola scripture type of guy, so I’ll only go by what I see in the Bible. Where in there does it say to pray to saints or where does it lay out the structure of the church. I’ve never really understood Catholicism myself, but I’m interested. Thanks in advance.

Pic unrelated. Also if this thread’s already been posted then just delete the old one.

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Christian YouTubers

What are some good Christian YouTubers who use their platform in order to speak truth and guidance? Is Fr. Mike Schmitz good?

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>"I'm Orthodox because it's the church with the best optics"

I've seen Orthos unironically use this as a reason to convince prots to join their church. If anything, the fact that satan is not attacking your church so heavily should be a sign that your church is not the true Church of Christ.

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Owen Benjamin

Anyone familiar with this guy? I had a vague awareness of him as a comedian but I didn't realize he had become a Christian or gotten redpilled so hard. He seems pretty cool.

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…am I autistic for spending my free time trying to preach the truth of the Bible on Reddit?

I've been banned over 40 times on the Christian boards, mostly shadowbanned, but I honestly want the truth to prevail. Because of how many different types of people there, Athiests, etc whatever also tons of lukewarm Christians serving two masters…the master of modernity and the Bible.

I honestly feel like I'm doing the world good by at least promoting good Christian values there.

Also it challenges my knowledge of the Bible and helps me learn.

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I don't mean to start another anti Reddit thread but I am truly convinced that r/Christianity isn't even Christianity.

Like it blatantly denies "offensive" doctrine.

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Is he possessed or did he just do edgy things just for the sake of edgy things because he is simply lost and doesn't know the word of jesus.

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Students left with burns after Ash Wednesday church service

“But when some of the kids wiped it off, it ripped the skin off as well. It was red raw." Mrs Brown said.


An Ash Wednesday service at a Catholic school has left 90 pupils and staff with chemical burns, as parents say they are considering legal action. Two pupils were hospitalised and scores more were burned after a priest marked crosses on assembly-goers’ foreheads as part of an Ash Wednesday ceremony at a top-performing school. A total of 73 students, 16 staff and the chair of the governors were burned after being marked with the ash as a token of penitence and mortality during the ritual at the Saint Augustine’s Catholic High School in Worcestershire. The priest, assisted by two students, began marking pupils’ foreheads. But the ritual was stopped half way through when children complained of 'tingling', Cassena Brown, 39, the mother of a badly-burnt pupil, said. The cross marking then ceased and students were asked to wash the ashes off immediately to ensure no further discomfort was felt, the school said.

"They should have been sent to a medical professional, not given a perfumed wet wipe," she added. Parents have said they are considering taking legal action against the school after medics told one of them the “chemical burn” would likely leave scarring. Mrs Brown said she was ‘gobsmacked’ when she saw her son for the first time after the incident. "My son was the worst of everyone. Because he is of Afro-Caribbean heritage you can see the burn very clearly, as the skin is burned and it's white underneath. He won't go to school. He's embarrassed,” she said. Saint Augustine’s Catholic High School said in a statement: “it is dismayed by the event and treats students’ health and safety as paramount.” The school in Redditch - voted top in Worcestershire by The Real Schools Guide, 2018 - said it is investigating the incident and that the ashes are being analysed by external experts.

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I am considering names for confirmation.

Can anyone help me by telling me what name they chose and why?

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I like religion and in particular Christianity from utilitarian point of view, I believe it will make my mental condition more stable and that it leads to stronger marriages and less anxiety and so on, because there is a lot of evidence for that.

Do you guys think it's possible to get these benefits while being, or at least starting off as a larper?

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Guys I don't get it. I am a Protestant. Few Protestants claim to be the original Church. "Ok, I thought, I guess I'll go join the original Church Jesus made if it's still around." Well I find out that the Catholic Church is this. "Ok I am gonna be Catholic now I thought." But then I find out the Eastern Orthodox Church claims the same thing and that the Catholic Church actually broke off from it. But then I find out the Oriental Orthodox claim the same… Guys I am so confused now… How can three churches claim to be the one original Church? Who is the original Church? I want to join that one. Please help guys I don't know what Church to join… :(

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Christ's promise and the Catholic Church

I find myself very, very worried about the future of the Catholic Church. The College of Cardinals is mostly people picked by Francis now, and the next Pope may be just as "progressive" as Francis. My heart can't take all of these scandals and the amazingly frustrating quasi-indifferent ecumenicism. What can I, as a layperson, even do? I pray the rosary daily, but I still worry that Amoris laetitia is only the beginning of things to come…

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Massive Christian awakening

Has anybody seen what's been happening on /pol/?

It seems something is happening.

Every Christian thread is getting blessed with redpills and insane digits.

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For a friend

Hi /christian/,

A very close friend of mine who is catholic started dating a Muslim guy a year ago. she is 22 and he is 21. a couple weeks ago she found out she is 6 weeks pregnant. It was totally unplanned. She chose not to get an abortion and im happy about that but he is insisting that the child will have to be Muslim and she will have to marry him now before she has the child. She is agreeing to all of this without even thinking first. I know deep down she is afraid of the future and shes a kind person but I think that this time it may have gotten the better of her. Im not a super religious person but this has really struck a cord with me. I don't want her to live a life of sin or bring a child into the world that will follow a faith of hate, lies and destruction. I find myself praying the rosary multiple times a day in the hope that God will use his clear judgment and step in and cancel the pregnancy for her and help her find a christian man to be with instead. Is this wrong?

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Sunday Thread

How was church today /christian/?

Went to a (((jesuit))) church since I was away from home, but it was suprisingly full and I think they did an alright job in the sermon. I was very happy to see them offerring the body and blood though.

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Monasticism and why is it considered good.

What is the story behind Monasticism?

How did it come about, is there basis for it in the scripture?

Is it ultimately a good practice, if yes, then why?

We're time and time again called to action to preach be active, help others, spread the word, lead by example for unbelievers and celebrate Christ together with fellow Christians.

Often times such things are said, some even go as far as saying one can't be a Christian for long if he is secluded from the world.

Then why is being a hermit or a monk considered good and why is it an acceptable form of seclusion that came about?

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Trump autographed Bibles for survivors of Alabama tornado…

Volunteer Ada Ingram told reporters that Trump signed several hats and Bibles, including one for a 12-year-old boy, an action which drew applause from people who came to see Trump.


President Donald Trump signed Bibles for survivors of the Alabama tornado that killed 23 people during a visit of the disaster area on Friday. During his visit five days after the storm hit, Trump met with state and local leaders and assessed the damage for himself in Beauregard. He also met with the families of tornado victims, including Marshall Lynn Grimes, who died alongside his fiance. Prior to being on the ground, Trump took an aerial tour of the devastation after landing at Fort Benning, Georgia. “I saw this and it’s hard to believe,” Trump said. “You saw things that you wouldn’t believe.”

After surveying tornado damage with Gov. Kay Ivey, the President's motorcade pulled up to a memorial of 23 crosses in front of Providence Baptist Church. The crosses were constructed and put in place by a volunteer all the way from Illinois. Trump paused to read the names of the 23 victims, who ranged in age from 6 to 89, alongside first lady Melanie Trump. From there, the president entered the church, which has been operating as a shelter since the storm hit. Inside the church, clothes, baby wipes and backpacks sat on tables for victims of the storm. A crowd of people, including survivors and volunteers, stood in front of the tables, waiting for Trump to autograph, according to a tweet from Washington Post reporter Josh Dawsey. Associated Press photographer Carolyn Kaster also captured a close-up image of Trump signing one Bible. “I enjoyed him coming,” said Ingram, who said she voted for Trump and would again in 2020. “I think it’s a godsend. I’m sorry. The situation is bad. And there are going to be people who will say 'why did he come to my town?' I don’t know why. I don’t why the hurricane happened (either). But there is a reason."

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How Christianity and Confucianism can explain US-China rivalry…

Peter T. C. Chang says China’s Confucian heritage means it can tolerate multiple belief systems ‘under heaven’, but the US’ insistence on liberal democracy has echoes of Christian exclusivism


The ongoing trade war is just one front of an expanding all-out US-China tussle for world dominance. And unlike earlier great-power rivalries, this has the trappings of a civilisational showdown, as the pre-eminent Christian West faces off against a resurgent Confucian East, with potentially far-reaching consequences for the existing global order. Anxieties abound over whether these two giants share enough core values to manage a peaceful balancing of power, and can avert the dreaded Thucydides Trap. These fears are not unfounded. While similar in some ways, Christianity and Confucianism are distinct traditions, with theological assumptions that, if unchallenged, could set the US and China on a collision course.

Christianity, like Judaism, believes in the existence of only one true God. But, unlike the latter, the former transcended Judaic ethnocentrism to embrace Christian universalism. The Abrahamic god in Christianity is no longer just for the Jews, but for all peoples. Still, Christianity remains monotheistic, exacting absolute allegiance to the one God. For Christians, to be saved one must embrace the biblical faith. Put differently, humanity’s fate lies with Christianity, the sole gateway to heaven. Imprints of these Christian motifs are unmistakable in Pax Americana. Stepping out of isolation, the US played a central role in stabilising the post-second-world-war order. Hailed as the American century, the 20th century has had its lows, surely. But it was also marked with historic accomplishments. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights is one. This and other US-led initiatives set the framework of a new international order, whereupon people everywhere could aspire to a dignified existence free of tyranny. As US president John F. Kennedy eloquently acclaimed, “…not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women, not merely peace for our time but peace in all time”. And Americans embraced this mission as a “manifest destiny” to guide humankind like a “shining city upon a hill”. Reminiscent of Christian exclusivism, the Americans believed in a singular path to realising this free world: the liberal democratic process, exalted as the historic culmination of human political progress.

In Confucianism, the ancient Chinese sages also envisioned a “tianxia”, where all peoples could coexist harmoniously under heaven. But, unlike Christian monotheism, the Chinese are polytheistic, pledging allegiance to Confucianism, Daoism and Buddhism all at once. These multiple allegiances underscore the Chinese pluralistic approach to achieving the Dao in this and the afterlife. Certainly, not every tradition is equal. Confucians do assert dominance. But there is no equivalent Christian doctrine of “God’s elect”. Moral pre-eminence is not predestined but merit-based. If proven worthy, anyone can take the lead under heaven. In the nascent Pax Sinica, one can discern the Confucian impressions. Following the epochal Belt and Road Initiative, President Xi Jinping, at the 13th National People’s Congress, introduced another grandiose vision: a “community of common destiny”. Emulating the Confucian “tianxia” concept, Xi vowed to “let the sunshine of a community with a shared future for humanity illuminate the world”. The aim is to herald a global “new era” of stability and prosperity.

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Depth of faithlessness of Tolkien movie

Who wants to go first: how deep in the closet will they bury his faith?

(skip to 20th second)

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Can nuclear, biological, or chemical warfare be justified under the just war theory in Christian theology?

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Has God ever spoken to you?

I don't mean divine intuition, or signs, but literal words. What did he say? Why does he only speak to some but not others?

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The Original Bible

Whats the most true version of the Koine Greek NT and the Septuagint?


I was looking at this for the NT, it's inexpensive but it's the version used by the KJV which I'm wary of. I hear the Byzantine Text is the best one so do you know any copies of that which are inexpensive and are just straight Koine Greek with no English on the side? Same thing with Septuagint.

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I'm not from europe, but can eurofriends tell me if there's a big revival of christianity and european traditions right now?

I see on 4chan there's some kind of change from the edgy /b/ atheist to now I see christianity memes, some deus vult memes and I've seen christianity tan being popular as a niche meme.

But I'm not sure if this has any resemblance to IRL europe, maybe is the massive inmigration that makes europeans to want to become christians, or maybe is because the liberal kind of life leaves you with empty meaningless lives, or even could be the result of simple demographics.

Could be a mixture of all those factors, but I wonder if any eurofriend anon can give me some explanation of what he sees IRL.

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Outside Looking In

>tfw been trying to fit into churches for the past 4 years

>whole spectrum from the catholicism of my youth to confessional protestant churches to begrudgingly checking out evangelical groups on campus

>tolerated in all of them, completely rejected by evangelicals. Never really fit in to any of them.

>only christian friends are online and in the same boat

why is christianity in America like this, so comfortable and "bourgeois" (i hate to use this commie term). It's no different than the normie world with cliques and social ladders. I thought the church was supposed to be for the undesirables too.

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Karaite Jews?

Thoughts on the Karaite Jews, /christian/? They reject the Talmud and say that ancestry goes through the father rather than the mother. Thoughts?

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When video games...

When video games are just here to recall you that you'll NEVER live in a small christian medieval town or farm with loving people, a simple but fulfilling life …and that is gone and buried…

Why ?

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Mormon Leader meets Pope Francis in Rome

>Pope Francis of the Roman Catholic Church and President Russell M. Nelson of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints met today at the Vatican in the first-ever face-to-face discussion between the heads of the two global churches.

>"The differences in doctrine are real and they're important," President Nelson said afterward as he stood just outside St. Peter's Square, "but they're not nearly as important as the things we have in common — our concern for human suffering, the importance of religious liberty for all of society, and the importance of building bridges of friendship instead of building walls of segregation." The two world religious leaders shared a belief that faith in God brings morality and stability to society.

>The pope presented President Nelson with two gifts, his declarations on the family and on the Islamic faith. President Nelson gave the pope a Lladro figurine of the Christus statue and a copy of "The Family: A Proclamation to the World."

>President Ballard said Pope Francis enjoyed the fact that he and President Nelson have had sons and grandchildren who served missions in the pope's homeland of Argentina. “He was very kind to us. We could not have asked for a more fulfilling experience,” said President Ballard of the meeting. The Vatican did not offer any comment on the meeting but released photos from the midday audience with the pontiff. The pope and President Nelson embraced at the end of their time together. "They gave each other a hug as we left that said everything," President Ballard said. President Nelson invited Pope Francis to Salt Lake City and to the Rome Italy Temple.

>President Ballard said Pope Francis enjoyed the fact that he and President Nelson have had sons and grandchildren who served missions in the pope's homeland of Argentina.

Besides the fact that the Mormon President just visited the Vatican, let that last statement sink in.

Assuming it's true, the Pope was glad that Mormon missionaries worked in his home country.

Waiting for the apologists to spin this.

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Should all Christian men follow the Pence rule?

(not be alone with women who aren't your wife/close relatives)

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Does anyone listen to Christian music? I'm a catholic but I find it soothing and helpful spiritually. It focuses my mind on God.


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LENT 2019 THREAD: The Journey to Easter Sunday.

The purpose of this thread is for all discussion relating to Lent 2019 leading into the suffering, death, and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ during Holy Week and Easter. May you all have a blessed Lent and let the journey to the passion and the resurrection begin:

>Now Jesus, going up to Jerusalem, took the twelve disciples aside on the road and said to them,

>“Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be betrayed to the chief priests and to the scribes; and they will condemn Him to death,

>and deliver Him to the Gentiles to mock and to scourge and to crucify. And the third day He will rise again.”

>Matthew 20:17-19

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How do I overcome “church hurt”? It still plague my head even though the last one happened 4 years ago and I still sometimes can’t stop thinking about it

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Why do Baptists claim works and repenting isn't necessary for heaven?

I'm a newer Christian …well someone taking it seriously and Paul blatantly says that it's necessary

6 God “will repay each person according to what they have done.”[a] 7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. 8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger.

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Diagnosed with Mental issues, thinking about being Christian

Hi, so I've had a bit of a weird life, and I've been diagnosed with some mental issues. I have to tell you I don't really know if I believe my diagnoses. However I've had a history of drug usage, so I'm not sure if that's helping at all. I guess the usual, rough childhood, and I'm bi or a lesbian or something, I don't really know exactly. I had some sort of crazy experience or… can't say it was a specific experience or not, but maybe it's been something that's been happening over a while. My family was Christian but I have really drifted apart from them and well I never actually knew what it meant, but something makes me think that all of this is like. I don't know I'm getting this feeling that maybe I'm supposed to be a Christian and that's the source of all my confusion and issues. However goes without saying I'm messed up, and I don't know how I can even go about this without it being… you know I shouldn't say this. My feeling isn't that it's something I can try to help me, my feeling is that it's like… the truth? I don't know. I'm failing in college and got into a lot of weird lesbian stuff and I sort of hate this world but I don't know how to get out of it. I hate drugs but I also keep using them. What are the first steps. Do I start reading the Bible? Any help would be appreciated, thanks friends. Also very cool you guys are such a big message board here. I scanned through a few pages and you guys are cool, even with the fighting haha, love to see passionate people.

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Lent is in less than 2 weeks. What are you giving up?

I am giving up weed. I want to stop smoking that shit and follow God. I haven't gone to church since last year but this year I'm really going to start following God now. I hope to rid weed and sin from my life. Pray for me anons.

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Why do /pol/tards use the fact that Jesus used his whip once in the Bible to push that Christianity supports violence? I see it a lot

>Jesus isn't this liberal f**

>He uses VIOLENCE don't believe Reddit!

I honestly cannot understand how someone can get that Jesus was a violent person or that he supported violence. Even OT God never supported violence unless he was in charge of it.

Are /pol/tards that try to justify Jewish violence using the Bible the same type of people like redditors changing the Bible to fit their liberal agenda?

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Canadian archbishop pushes women deacons as ‘first step’

March 5, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) – The time has come to take women’s place in the Church “seriously,” according to the Archbishop of Gatineau, Québec. The French-speaking bishop, Paul-André Durocher, openly promoted the idea of a female diaconate that would include the celebration of the sacraments of baptism and marriage.

He was speaking on Radio Canada’s Sunday evening chat-show, Tout le monde en parle (“Everyone’s talking about it”), where he had been asked to comment on the recent Vatican Summit on sexual abuse.

Archbishop Durocher made clear that he would have women play a ministerial role in the Church besides taking up increased down-to-earth responsibilities. “If women were deacons, for instance, they would have the power to celebrate marriages and to baptize. They would be part of management teams. I think that would be a first step,” he said.

This goes beyond the role deaconesses are purported to have played as “helpers” of the Christian community in the early centuries of the Church. Nowadays, male deacons, be they permanent or preparing for the priesthood – in which case, they promise to remain celibate –, are ordained ministers and have the power to celebrate the sacraments of marriage and baptism as well as being allowed to preach during mass.

The diaconate — being in this sense an element of Holy Orders — has been reserved for men in the same way and for the same reasons as the priesthood, which configures the ordained priest to Jesus-Christ himself, who was a male according to the flesh.

It is the same logic that traditionally prohibits girls from being altar servers and from playing a public role in the church as lectors or ministers of Holy Communion – although these traditions are often breached in the new Roman rite.

Durocher was somewhat circumspect in his statement, but went several steps further than previous trial balloons he had sent up on the same subject on previous occasions. Last Sunday on Radio Canada, he discreetly raised the even more controversial issue of women priests, stating that as far as priests are concerned, reality is more complex. “The problem on that level is that the Pope has said that that could not change, that women could not be priests. The only way for that change would be for there to be a plenary council of all the bishops on that issue, and that won't happen for a long time,” he said, noticeably avoiding any statement on the radical impossibility of allowing women into the priesthood.

The Archbishop of Gatineau clearly wants to move forward in stages. He is of the opinion that “we should work now on what we're capable of doing,” in particular in the local churches, in order to make clerical institutions more egalitarian.

The idea of promoting women in the church is not a new one for Paul-André Durocher. A prominent member of the Catholic hierarchy in Canada – Durocher, 64, is a former president of the Canadian bishops’ conference –, he was present at the second Synod on the family in 2015 in Rome where he devoted his own three-minute intervention entirely to the “place of women” in the Church.

At the time, he suggested allowing them to hold decision-making positions within the Church and to have access to the permanent diaconate, making a distinction between “ministry” and “priesthood”: “It's a just question to ask. Shouldn't we be opening up new venues for ministry of women in the Church?”

He also brought up the question of preaching by women – going directly against St. Paul's ban on women teaching within a church –, by asking the Synod fathers to “look at the possibility of allowing married couples (…) to speak during Sunday homilies so that they can testify, give witness to the relationship between God's word and their own marriage life and their own life as families.”

(cont) https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/canadian-archbishop-pushes-women-deacons-as-a-first-step

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>In Augustine's view (termed "Realism"), all of humanity was really present in Adam when he sinned, and therefore all have sinned. Original sin, according to Augustine, consists of the guilt of Adam which all humans inherit.

How can all of humanity be present in Adam? I asked this question in the QTDDTOT, but didn't get any answers. Also, wouldn't such a belief imply the pre-existence of souls? Such a doctrine is considered heritical by Catholicism, Protestantism, and Orthodoxy, not that I any problems with it myself.

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>tfw transgender

>tfw detransitioning and broke up with Trans gf to follow Jesus

sad…but it is for the better

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I'm an aspie trying to find faith after year of neglect. it breaks my heart to see people suffer. school was brutal on me, destroyed my faith almost. I'm trying to get my feet back after all these years. I can barely focus on anything like i used to (can barely read the bible and remember more than a couple verses) /pol/ REALLY screwed me over, and the fact that anything works confounds me. i want to believe in jesus but i'm scared. everything in the world and beyond is SO strange it makes me numb. I do know one thing: I fear Hell and fear for humanity. I just want people to get along… but everyone hates each other… and it upsets me…alot

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I was told that the Jews rewrote the Old Testament in the 7-8th centuries (so called Masoretic Text) to get rid of what would suggest Jesus to be the Jewish Messiah and that is what most bibles we have are based on, how true is this?

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Reminder that you're not a true Christian until you've read the Septuagint in it's original Greek

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Does Christianity have any position on autism beyond the personl opinions of Christians? What about the neurodivergent movement, which holds that autism does not need to be cured?



Some positions, though they are held by the individual, not necessarily representative of the whole Church.

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noahs ark

I heard some say Noahs ark is a metaphor. If so, WHAT does it mean?

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I am in a long-term relationship, and live together and have sex occasionally. However we are not married.

I've recently came to Christ, and am aware that I live in sin. Should I just break up?

Also she is a devout atheist and it's come to a point where we are unable to talk about issues related to faith without getting into a fight.

I still deeply love her and she loves me back. What should I do?

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the problem of evil

Reposting this from another thread because I am interested in /christian/s response as a whole: How do you reconcile your belief in God with the problems of evil and suffering?

You might say that evil is the result of man's folly and his freedom to choose, but God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent, so it's not like you can leave Him out of the equation and simply write off evil as an anthropocentric quirk. God creates and sustains all, including, paradoxically, evil and those who commit evil acts. Like many, I find the problem of evil to be one of the hardest elements to understand and come to terms with in relation to idea of God. Augustine's response that "God created evil that we might know the good" (paraphrasing) is woefully inadequate, not to mention incongruent with scripture. God absolutely has the power to make us intrinsically aware of "the good" without ever bringing evil into the picture, yet He does not. We could, theoretically, have been made in such a manner that we were aware of evil whilst freely choosing to avoid it at all times, much as one avoids jumping into a burning car at all times, but human nature doesn't function in this way. God chooses to use the suffering that results from evil as a tool, as a part of our lived experience on earth. And I do wonder why that is. It seems a sordid sort of game to play.

The doctrine of free will isn't really an appropriate answer either. We could, theoretically, still be considered free in a universe bereft of evil. We only consider evil's potential absence an infringement of our free will because we know of no other paradigm, which is its own sort of tyranny really.

I want to believe, but I would be lying if I said this wasn't an obstacle.

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What are your catholic opinion on this ?

What do you think of the whole St. Bartholomew event in Paris ?

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Ash Wednesday Reminder.

Today is a day of fasting and abstinence. That means no meat. You're allowed to have only one full meal. Two smalls snacks are permitted but be mindful. Have a blessed Lent.

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Good Christian names?

Hello. My wife is pregnant and the baby's gender is male. What is a good Christian name? I was thinking either Solomon or Saul, she likes those names too but has also suggested other good names like Peter or David or Samson or Samuel or Paul or even Titus which I also like. I was also thinking of a middle name like Gabriel. Solomon Gabriel [Last Name]? Or maybe Saul Titus [Last Name]? What does /christian/ think? Any suggestions?

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Christian Wife

>been going to Church for 2 years

>haven't met ONE girl in her teens or twenties

>they're all grannies and middle aged wives

>/christian/ said I would find a good wife at Church

So I'm destined to marry pic related?

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Is Christianity a socialist religion?

I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.

Matthew 19:23-24

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Conditions for being a Pope

If a pope openly says that you don't have to believe in God to be Catholic and says that Jesus wasn't a real person, is that Pope still a pope? If the Pope openly claims they are not Catholic anymore but they have converted to Buddhism, but insists that a Buddhist can be Pope and still claims to be Pope, is he still Pope? Who can judge him?

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Is it true that the "wine" used during the Last Supper was actually grape juice? I've heard this claim from people of multiple denominations, including ones that use actual wine for the Eucharist.

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How should a Christian be buried?

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How do you learn about Christian history?

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Self-Improvement General

I declare open this thread, as a guide to self development in the path of the superior christian man we all strive to be.

Make it like the other cyclical threads, so that we may all post about any recommendations and question we may have, about self improvement as human, not necessarily related to religion, but about leading a proper christian life.

Also, it is noted in various resources of the type, how its important for men to keep regular friendship with equally strong men, where we can brutally honest with each other, and find out if we were being lazy, false and just complacent about some objective or our path in life. So may we make this also a space where you share your plans, open and truthfully so others may judge if you're being honest with yourself on your purpose. Give updates and feedback so that we all may grow on our own.

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Francis announces opening of Secret Archives on 'Hitler's Pope'…

Secret documents on Pius XII, who served during WWII and its aftermath, could shed light on leader widely criticized by Jews


Declaring that the church “isn’t afraid of history,” Pope Francis said Monday he has decided to open up the Vatican archives on World War II-era pope Pius XII, who has been criticized by Jews for staying silent on the Holocaust. Francis told officials and personnel of the Vatican Secret Archives that the archive would be open to researchers starting March 2, 2020. Pius was elected pontiff on March 2, 1939, six months before World War II erupted in Europe. Pius died on October 9, 1958, at the Vatican summer residence at Castel Gandolfo, near Rome.

The Vatican usually waits 70 years after the end of a pontificate to open up the relevant archives. But the Holy See has been under pressure to make the Pius XII documentation available sooner and while Holocaust survivors are still alive. Vatican archivists had already started preparing the documentation for consultation in 2006, at the behest of Francis’s German-born predecessor, Benedict XVI. Pius has been accused by historians and Jewish groups of failing to speak out against the Holocaust, failing to commit the Church to saving Jews amid the genocide, and encouraging the conversion of Jews to Catholicism during the period.

He said the Pius papacy included “moments of grave difficulties, tormented decisions of human and Christian prudence, that to some could appear as reticence.” Instead, he said they could be seen as attempts “to keep lit, in the darkest and cruelest periods, the flame of humanitarian initiatives, of hidden but active diplomacy” aimed at possibly “opening hearts.”

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In the Bible, in Hebrews, we read that Christians who apostasize are not accepted to return. Are people who were born Christian but became atheists doomed to hellfire even if they return to Christianity while alive?

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What does /christian/ think of Mel Gibson?

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Blasphemy Against The Holy Spirit

I'm horrified of blaspheming against The Holy Spirit. I think I might have already done it by resisting not sinning and failing to repent after asking for forgiveness. How do I know what The Holy Spirit wants and how to follow through with His pushing?

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I hate to be that weirdo

But I can't stop feeling like God is speeding things up.

Everywhere I look, society, church, theology, philosophy, they all seem to culminate at a certain time period.

I'm not saying the time is near and I'm not trying to profess the future. But,

It really seems like God is starting to seperate his flock more and more from the world. Even the lukewarm people of faith are either becomming more traditional or are falling completely from the way.

I'm just wondering if any one else is seeing what I'm seeing or am I legitimately going mad?

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New Survey Shows Disparity of Beliefs Between Latin Mass, Novus Ordo Catholics

>The findings on key questions were informative:

>2% of TLM-attending Catholics approved of contraception vs. 89% of NOM Catholics.

>1% of TLM Catholics approved of abortion compared to 51% of NOM attendees.

>99% of TLM Catholics said they attend Mass weekly vs. 22% of NOM.

>2% of TLM goers approved of “gay marriage” as opposed to 67% of NOM.

>Also of note was the rate of giving among TLM Catholics, which was nearly six times the amount of giving (at 6% of income) as NOM parishioners (at 1.2%). TLM Catholics also had a fertility rate of 3.6 vs 2.3 for NOM — indicating “a nearly 60% larger family size”.

source: https://onepeterfive.com/new-survey-shows-disparity-of-beliefs-between-latin-mass-novus-ordo-catholics/?

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I want to put a poster or a painting with a religious theme in my room. Please recommend me some Christian art.

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What is the best form of Protestantism?

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Was Baldwin IV of Jerusalem a Saint?

It just seems incredible to me no matter how many times I read about him again and again.

The protector of the Holy Land, devout and faithful in spite of being so young and suffering from leprosy, he managed to defeat the great hero of the Saracens.

It's like story straight out of a book, so I was wondering, obviously there's no way he would be a Saint in the Orthodox Church, but is there case to be made for declaring Baldwin IV of Jerusalem a Saint in the Roman Catholic Church or is that simply too far?

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God's existence cannot be justified

I've just come to the realization that even if transcendence is real that doesn't mean a God put it there. Its just means that there's transcendence.

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Bible translation errors

I was going to post this in the "Is Christianity a socialist religion" thread but then i thought that i mustn't reward troll threads (and you should do the same)

So here it is:

I was trying to find Isaiah 26:15 to post the translation in english and ALL the translations of the english Bibles are wrong with a very different meaning

The passage in the original Greek says

>"πρόσθες αὐτοῖς κακά, Κύριε, πρόσθες κακὰ τοῖς ἐνδόξοις τῆς γῆς"

Which translates somewhat as free translation, still not exactly accurate

"give them more (add to them) bad things/damnation, oh Lord, give bad things to the glorified people (the rulers) of the earth"

But every english translation goes like

>"Thou hast increased the nation, O Lord, thou hast increased the nation: thou art glorified: thou hadst removed it far unto all the ends of the earth"

Many Latin translations also have the wrong translation but i found the correct one in some of them

>adde eis mala, domine, adde mala gloriosis terrae

Please help me, are English translations of the Bible so wrong?

Any other examples like this?

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Cain's Wife

>"And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch." - Genesis 4: 16-17 (KJV)

<And Cain knew his wife

Where the hell did she come from?

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What translation of the Scriptures should I purchase?

Okay so I've been looking into the origins of the KJV and it seems that there were Masonic influences on King James I or he may have even been one of them. From my research into freemasonry this disgusts me greatly, I've been told all my life that this was the "pure and miraculously preserved Word of God" (Baptist) but if a freemason was in charge of it's translation than I'm going to be taking a HARD pass at that.

I'm looking for a good Catholic/Orthodox approved translation please. I like the old english style of the KJV but I'd like a bit of an updated english for some of the words they use. Just need some suggestions as to what version would be the most reliable and accurate. Thanks!

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Consecrated virginity


>It's a title bestowed to virgin women who promise to remain physical virgins, as brides of Christ, for the sake of the kingdom of God.

>Consecrated virgins dedicate their life in prayer and service to the Church, but unlike nuns and sisters, they live and work in the secular world.

>"Consecrated virginity, as a concept, developed in the early Church at the time where Christians were being persecuted," Ms Tai says.

>"They were women who consecrated themselves to Christ in lieu of getting married [to men]."

>Many of them, she explains, were martyred for their beliefs.

>The rise of monasticism in the third and fourth centuries enabled women to join religious groups as nuns or sisters.

>Some adopted the "rite of consecration of virginity", as well their vows of poverty, chastity and obedience.

>But gradually this became the only option for single, virgin women wanting to serve the church — as it had become difficult for women to live in the community without being married.

>That was until 1970, when Pope Paul VI revised and reintroduced the rite and allowed it to be used for virgin women living in the secular world.

>More …

Tempted to take-up the mantle, /christian/?

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Two Board Solution

The ecumenical board experiment has failed. The same tired assertions are repeated ad nauseum, only growing the tension between Catholic and Protestant, and it's not even witty banter.

Compounding the situation is the perception that Protestants are being censored. The protestant either leaves, which encourages the echo chamber effect of Catholics, or they stay and their hostility grows.

I'm proposing an exodus from here for my protestant brothers. We are strangers in a foreign land that doesn't welcome us. Segregation would be best for both parties.

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The pope should allow priests to marry. Change my mind.

>This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

1 Timothy 3 1-7

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>Do an anti-porn / anti-erotica video about MSM movies, TV shows and pornography

> include literal soft-porn and hard-porn videos in your anti-porn video

How can one be SO STUPID ? How can one make an anti-sexual promiscuity video and yet include explicit video of kissing, sex poses and even a very explicit doggy-style scene? How can one have no self-awareness ? I just wanted to inform myself about the reasons of such promotion of sexual promiscuity, and because of it , I end up behind aroused, triggered and masturbate…And how in hell can this type of imagery be allowed on youtube?

I'm so angry and sick of myself, but I'm even more angry of people claiming to denounce this type of imagery, while promoting it in the very video they made…

I can't trust no thing, I can't trust TV, I can't trust advertising, I can't trust youtube videos, I can't trust nothing. I'm getting so sick of this sexualized culture, I just want to be sexual pure just like my fellow man, and I'm so sick of this kind of Jewish social engineering. ..Excpect if you turn of all screens, shut down internet for ever, there are no escaping it…And even then, there is advertisement in the streets with erotic or even explicit sexual content, and women and teenagers wearing as little clothes as WHORES. There are no more decency, no more modesty anymore, it's getting all tiresome…It's getting to a point that the only way to escape all these sexual degeneracy, all these sexual subliminal messages, all these sexual triggers, and all these degenerates women exposing 75% of their skins…Is to become literally blind.

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Behold, Esau my brother is a hairy man, and I am a smooth man

Is it just me or is Jacob/Israel an absolute conniving snake? What am I supposed to interpret from this? Tent dwelling backstabbers are chosen by God? Esau was shortsighted for trading his birthright, other than that, Jacob is a rat winnie the pooh who took everything he could from his more honourable brother. He even fought an angel. I mean this guy was a real jerk.

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Do you need to have a Thomistic view of God to be Catholic?

I am a new Christian that is deciding between Eastern Orthodoxy and Catholicism. I read the Jay Dyer (I know he’s a meme and I shouldn’t let e-celebs dictate my beliefs, but I do think he made some fair points) refutation of Thomism and I’d like to know if you can be a Catholic without affirming ADS.

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Do you guys have Christian friends to encourage and edify you in your walk with Christ?

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Are canonizations considered infallible?

Are canonizations considered infallible?

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Wednesday and Firday fasting

What are you actually supposed to eat, if at all. I know its not about the food itself but I just can't really what are you actually permitted to eat

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Noah's Ark Bible story could be proved true by ruins found in Iraq…

Amazon Prime's The Bible Conspiracies claims a discovery in the Babylon Province of Iraq matches the "Word of God"


Proof that the Noah's Ark story in the bible is true could have been discovered in Iraq, a new documentary has claimed. The Bible story details how two of every type of animal are saved from floods by a huge boat. However, the Genesis story also goes on to say how humans in the aftermath of the deluge began to build the Tower of Babel. The huge structure is used to explain how diverse human languages were brought into existence.

It says how in a bid to hamper the construction of the tower, which Babylonians claimed could reach the heavens, God confused the languages of the the workers so they could no longer communicate.

The tower was never completed and people were dispersed across the face of the earth. Now the Bible Conspiracies documentary claims a discovery in the Babylon Province of Iraq matches the tale. The presenter explains how archaeologists believe that the remains matched the description of the famous tower, due to the discovery of a series of cylinders surrounded by burnt bricks, the Daily Star reports. “The investigation goes on to explain how the Bible says the structure would later be destroyed by angels under God’s orders. “Many believe the tower was destroyed by God, but the text actually tells us it was a strange race, referred to as the Anunnaki. “These Anunnaki were described as coming from the heavens, sent to guide humans. “In times gone by they were called angels, but today we might call them aliens.”

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I'm trying to donate through paypal to the catholic church and it's frigging impossible. W H Y

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What is /christian/ giving up for Lent this year?

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>*reconciles transmigration with Christianity*

psh nothing personal

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Secular Music Preferences

I've seen a ton of threads here talking about various Christian bands in a variety of genres (ex: Christian Rock Bands, Christian Metal Bands, Chants, Classical Music, etc.) but I'm a bit curious as to what if anything you guys listen to that's not explicitly Christian. I mean, not to be that guy, but while I do love a lot of Christian bands, a lot of it is admittedly cringe to me and I kind of have to be in the mood for it. I love hymns and classical, but contemporary Christian music is… iffy.

To start, I was born and raised on Rock of all kinds, but nowadays I tend to stick to Punk, Metal, and Hardcore With RAC bands as a sort of guilty pleasure. My all time favorite band is the Ramones, followed closely by Motörhead. I have aspirations of starting a band with christian themes, as well as secular social critique someday tbh. Johnny Ramone is a massive inspiration to me (pic related) I'm not super into the scene nowadays because of college, but I still keep the dress and attitude for the most part.

Thought's, comments, your preferences, etc…. IDK Just kinda winging it with this thread.

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Supporting Trump's wall is a sin.

(Exodus 22:21, Leviticus 19:33-34, Deuteronomy 10:19, Deuteronomy 23:7, Deuteronomy 27:19, Psalm 146:9, Jeremiah 22:3, Ezekiel 16:49-50, Matthew 2:13-15, Matthew 25:31-46, Mark 12:31, Luke 10:29-37, Galatians 5:14, Ephesians 2:19, Philippians 3:20)

"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian. This is not the gospel," - Pope Francis 2016

"I invite you not to build walls but bridges, to conquer evil with good, offence with forgiveness, to live in peace with everyone." - Pope Francis 2017

"We know that the father of lies, the devil, prefers a community divided and bickering, This is the criteria to divide people: The builders of bridges and the builders of walls, those builders of walls sow fear and look to divide people. What do you want to be?" - Pope Francis 2019

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Is it sign? Huge wooden cross washes ashore on Fort Lauderdale beach…

A large cross washed ashore over the weekend behind a hotel along Galt Ocean Mile in Fort Lauderdale.


Bales of drugs, derelict vessels, seaweed, whales, and driftwood are among the many items to wash up on South Florida’s beaches, but the latest flotsam and jetsam has made believers of some beach-goers. A very large, barnacle-encrusted, wooden cross washed ashore behind the Ocean Manor Beach Resort along Galt Ocean Mile in Fort Lauderdale, during the weekend. “It is fantastic,” said Mary Ann Smolinski, visiting from Michigan. “It’s amazing. Very spiritual.”

A group of people dragged it up onto the beach from the water’s edge behind the hotel at 4040 Galt Ocean Drive, she said. “We were just lying on the beach and we saw a crowd of people around and I just got up to see what was going on,” said Smolinski. “It was a cross that was laying right in the water.” John Skorupa, 74, of Fort Lauderdale, said he was walking along the beach early Saturday afternoon when he came upon the cross swaying in the surf and he took a few pictures. “It was 20 foot long, like railroad ties,” he said. “Really big, really big.” Speculation around the hotel tiki bar was lively. Everyone has a theory about where it came from, Skorupa said.

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Is Christianity the religion of Europeans?

Is paganism or Christianity the religion of white European peoples? Sorry I am debating a pagan and he says Christianity is a Jewish death cult from the middle east. Responses? Is Christianity white?

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What is the Christian view on prohibition?

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How do I become wise?

Do I actually have to discipline myself to acquire the healthy habits Sirach lays out?

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Theatrically speaking, would it be a sin to kill someone or something that’s/ who is a Bio Organic Weapon? https://residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/Bio_Organic_Weapon

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United Methodists Reject One Church Plan


>delegates at United Methodism’s governing General Conference rejected the One Church Plan heavily pushed by most USA bishops to overturn the church’s definition of marriage as husband and wife.

>African delegates nearly unanimously opposed the One Church Plan despite pressure from USA bishops and USA church bureaucracy. They were joined by most Filipino and European delegates.

>This afternoon, General Conference delegates will discuss the Traditional Plan, which would enhance enforcement of the church’s marriage teaching.

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Gentlemen! If you would please lend me your ears, I have something important I would like to say!



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An academic told me the Bible is wrong about Moses's name. Apparently the name is Egyptian in origin, not Hebrew like the Bible suggests, and that it means "son of" not "drawn out of water." He did give me examples, like of a Pharaoh named Thutmose I whose name means "son of Thoth" and Ramesses/Ramses I whose name means "son of Ra". He says likely Moses's name included a foreign gods name but it got removed and that the story had a long oral tradition before it got included in the Bible and likely the authors of the Bible drew on material like that of Sargon of Akkad and came up with a Hebrew/folk etymology to make Moses's name mean "drawn out of water" instead of what it originally meant. He did make a good point of why would an Egyptian give a child a Hebrew name? Anyway, how accurate is this /christian/?

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>tfw drunk

>tfw reading the Bible

>tfw writing poetry about Jesus

I love you Jesus

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Let's post Christian music. All forms all welcome.

OP starts with Ave Maria

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Jay dyer

What does /Christian/ think of Jay Dyer?

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I don't understand it. Why would God allow people who would practice incest and fornication to become pope? I thought Jesus said the gates of hell shall not prevail against it? I am shook after i read "know your pope".

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Do you believe witchcraft is a thing? And if you do, what should we do about it? Should they be burned?

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Which one is better, and why?

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Isaiah as a mini bible

>66 chapters (like 66 books)

>first 39 are judgement (OT)

>rest 27 about salvation (NT)

>first 9 of 27 chapters about salvation of israel from nations around it

>back 9 salvation of the planet and establishment of the new heaven and new earth

>middle 9 salvation of people as individuals personally

>middle of the middle 9 is Isaiah 53

Preddy neat but what do all u CatDogs make of this if your canon doesn't have 66 books? Nice co inkydink but doesn't this easter egg validate prot canon and that they're on the right track (with the canon, at least)?

See 18:37 in in vide related for sauce

>inb4 Shapiro jooo and zionist shill Johnny Mac shoo shoo!!

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Hi, long time lurker and occasional poster from 2015. I figured I'd hog up a thread to share with you guys a new piece of art I had made after my experiences here helped open me to Christianity. Do with it what you will.

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sacerdos in æternum

We all have these talks about finding a qt Christian waifu, but what about religious life? Have you considered becoming a priest or a monk, anon?

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Gay Catholic Priests Speak Out…

One priest in Wisconsin said he assumed every priest is gay unless he knows for a fact he is not. A priest in Florida put it this way: “A third are gay, a third are straight, and a third don’t know what the hell they are.”


"I really am gay," Father Greiten, now a priest near Milwaukee, remembered telling himself for the first time. For years, church leaders have driven gay congregants away in shame and insisted that " homosexual tendencies " are "disordered. The stories of gay priests are unspoken, veiled from the outside world, known only to one another, if they are known at all. Fewer than about 10 priests in the United States have dared to come out publicly. But gay men likely make up at least 30 to 40 percent of the American Catholic clergy, according to dozens of estimates from gay priests themselves and researchers. The environment for gay priests has grown only more dangerous. And yet prominent bishops have singled out gay priests as the root of the problem, and right-wing media organizations attack what they have called the church's "homosexual subculture," " lavender mafia," or " gay cabal. This week, Pope Francis will host a much-anticipated summit on sex abuse with bishops from around the world. When Pope Francis uttered his revolutionary question, "Who am I to judge? "The vast majority of gay priests are not safe," said Father Bob Bussen, a priest in Park City, Utah, who was outed about 12 years ago after he held Mass for the L.G.B.T.Q. community.

Today, training for the priesthood in the United States usually starts in or after college. Many gay priests spoke of being pulled between denial and confusion, finally coming out to themselves in their 30s or 40s. Father Greiten was 24 when he realized he was gay and considered jumping from his dorm window. "There will be a time in your life when you will look back on this and you're going to just love yourself for being gay," Father Greiten remembered this man telling him. "It's kind of like an open closet," Father Greiten said. Just over a year ago, after meeting with a group of gay priests, Father Greiten decided it was time to end his silence. Father Greiten had committed the cardinal sin: He opened the door to debate. His archbishop, Jerome E. Listecki of Milwaukee, issued a statement saying that he wished Father Greiten had not gone public. "The idea that gay priests are responsible for child sexual abuse remains a persistent belief, especially in many conservative Catholic circles. For years, church leaders have been deeply confused about the relationship between gay men and sexual abuse. At the largest in the United States, Mundelein Seminary in Illinois, few ever talk about sexual identity, said one gay student, who is afraid to ever come out. "Their attitude is that it is gay priests who inflict abuse on younger guys. Pope Francis has called the world's most powerful bishops to Rome to educate them on the problems of abuse, after high-profile abuse cases in the United States, Australia, Chile and elsewhere.

The event has worried gay priests. When the abuse crisis broke out again last summer, the former Vatican ambassador to the United States, Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigana, accused "homosexual networks" of American cardinals of secretly working to protect abusers. And this week, a sensational book titled "Sodoma" in Europe ("In the Closet of the Vatican" in the United States) is being released that claims to expose a vast gay subculture at the Vatican. A group of gay priests in the Netherlands recently took the unusually bold step of writing to Pope Francis, urging him to allow gay, celibate men to be ordained. Sitting in his parish's small counseling room, Father Greiten reflected on it all. For now, Father Greiten was getting ready for his 15th trip to Honduras with doctors and medical supplies.

Skimcast: https://www.skimcast.com/view/?type=page&url=https%3A%2F%2Fpastebin.com%2Fraw%2FkaGP5ELw&len=30

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Gospel of Luke

Hello guys, today i read the gospel of Luke and felt very inspird to make an manga about it. I know it sounds like an extremely silly idea, but i think it may be a good way to convey the gospel through imagery. I know there are probably better ways to represent the gospel with art, but i think this might be valid. I was planning to tell the gospel of Luke with no additions or commentaries, what do you guys think? would you promote it if the final product was good? I'm an amateur artist, but i would give my best. Pic related is a little sketch i made of Christ and St. Peter. It could be good for attracting young people and the japanese without dumbing down the message and the gospel.

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Is Euthanasia a sin?

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The concept of Purgatory is comfy.

>You probably are not sin-free and instead of just disregarding sin like that concept doesn't matter, you get to go to Purgatory with a lot of other people like you & get cleansed

>If there is something like TV shows in heaven, there are probably many comfy tv shows similar to Misfits, where a band of Misfits get together and learn how to be better people over the course of many seasons

>you have a purpose, you know what you are working towards

>probably many interesting conversations with people that died before or after you, you get to learn a lot about other people's lives and how they ended up in purgatory

>nice comfy radical treatment, if you have sinned a lot and burn for a few years to really get your soul nice and clean

I am a Protestant, but I don't get why so many evangelical types in the US are so terrified of a bit of purgatory.

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Are people really paid to shill here?

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Why do dandy lions produce pollen?

Why do snakes have a pelvis?

An why do humans have a tail bone?


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what the h*ck. i though you guys said christian girls were based and trad

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If I remember correctly, I once read a passage from the letters of Paul that said unbelieving people are hell bound? Is that true?

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Pope Leo XIII against freemasonry

Pope Leo XIII, Dall’Alto (# 2), Oct. 15, 1890: “It is needless now to put the Masonic sects upon their trial. They are already judged; their ends, their means, their doctrines, and their action, are all known with indisputable certainty. Possessed by the spirit of Satan, whose instrument they are, they burn like him with a deadly and implacable hatred of Jesus Christ and of His work; and they endeavor by every means to overthrow and fetter it.”

Pope Leo XIII, In Ipso (# 1), March 3, 1891: “Nevertheless, it grieves us to think that the enemies of the Church, joined in most wicked conspiracy, scheme to weaken and even, if possible, utterly wipe out that wondrous edifice which God Himself has erected as a refuge for the human race.”

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The Nature of Women

<Ecclesiastes 7

>25 I turned my heart to know and to search out and to seek wisdom and the scheme of things, and to know the wickedness of folly and the foolishness that is madness.

>26 And I find something more bitter than death: the woman whose heart is snares and nets, and whose hands are fetters. He who pleases God escapes her, but the sinner is taken by her.

They are the most gracious beings, capable of love, caring, healing, through which life is birth. Yet they can also the cruelest, enchant men into their charms and then leave them in shambles.

This thread is devoted to discussing the true nature of women, to most of which, are completely unaware themselves.

Not specifically relationship advice, for those have specific threads, but to come with analysis and understanding, and interpretation of the bible regarding them.

Something I would valuable not only for young men, but to settled men who wish to understand their partners better, and even women themselves to understand their inner feminine essence.

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I don't get it

I was reading about the prophecy of Jesus about the temple..He said that the temple and the city would be destroyed and that the jews would be scattered among the nations. There is also a prophetic paralel with Jonah. Jonah preached to nineveh that if they didn't repent, the city would be destroyed in 40 days. Jonah also spent 3 days and 3 nights in a fish's belly. Jesus said that if they didn't repent, the city would be destroyed and they would be punished. Jesus spent 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth. But the jews didn't repent, they killed Jesus and their city was destroyed…in exactly 40 years.Even emperor titus (the emperor at the time ) refused to receive honors as he was merely following the commands of a deity, as a vessel for divine wrath. How can atheists and non-believers still refuse to convert after this? What are their mental gymnastics? Do these people hate God or something? because this is too obvious and only a fool would reject Christ.

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Anyone here ever tried giving God the praise and worship anyway when they are pissed off and things aren't going their way?

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The future of Christianity will be in Africa, while it ceases to exist in the West. Thoughts?

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Christianity and Futurism

I am not going to even attempt to describe the multitude of different things that could possibly happen in the future, but I recently found this Isaac Arthur video on Virtual Worlds and would like to ask /christian/ to watch it and give me your thoughts afterwords. How does Christianity and religion in general apply, if at all, to hyper-real virtual worlds? Assuming we aren't raptur'd first.

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What did he mean by this?

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Whom is E.Michael Jones talking about here?


What's the name that EMJ says in this passage?

It sounds like "Ahmed Danajob"

Between 29:17-29:32


(can't embed the video, it's (((Goolaged))) )

Thank you.

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Are you in favor of "Muscular Christianity" ?

I mean…As some kind of "add-on" from the spiritual Christianity ?


> pic not related

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Let's face it. Protestants cannot into aesthetics. Its mostly modern, ugly and cheap. Only exception are Anglicans and Lutherans, but even they just copy Catholics.

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How do I stop worshiping money? I think it's corrupting me.

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Demonic Oppression

I'm curious about this topic because I have bipolar and Fr. Ripperger said he believes bipolar is a form of demonic oppression. How do you tell if an affliction is of demonic origin or not? How do you cure/prevent afflictions of demonic origin?

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The lie of Islam

I had a debate with a Muslim classmate of mine. He said that the Trinity was false and started being legalistic. Can anyone point me to sources for the Trinity and also the lie of Islam.

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Flowers of the Passion

Saint Paul of the Cross was the founder of the passionist order. He wrote this fantastic book about the faith, in this thread I'll share with you some of my favourite parts of the book. Let us have an open discussion about the books contents. Let's try not to have arguments about denominations.

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what do you want to do with Jesus?

play checkers?

drink beers?

shoot guns?

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Gluttony is a sin

Friendly reminder that fat people are going to hell if they don’t Repent and get fit

Video related. It will make you hate Obesity and the fat acceptance movement.

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What do 8chan Christians think of video games

Feel free to express your opinion in this thread.

To briefly give my own opinion, I have surveyed the internet and found that almost every faction of GenZ and millenials, whether "redpilled" "SJW" or otherwise, has a worshipful hedonistic view when it concerns video games. In my view however, video games are the same as alcohol or drugs in terms of its effect on people, it is just that it is not considered "cool" in this generation to view video game overuse with the same contempt as drug use or alcoholism.

So, I want to know if some of you Christians have higher standards than this. But express your opinion, even if you think I'm a moron. Asking here because I am not really familiar of the Christian view on those things and moreso, some of you probably grew up on the internet like I did and actually know what our generation has experienced.

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I'm new to Christianity, but I'm really interested into it. For me, Christianity is the only Religion that could be real. Can anybody tell me the differences between Catholism, Orthodoxism, and Protestantism? And if so all the Protestant groups like for example Baptism. It would be great if you tell me these things, because I really want to know. I only have like 3 Christian friends, and they don't know anything about their religion. I think they don't even really believe in it.

Pic unrelated

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Aquinas btfo'd?

I found this pic written by a Muslim who must have got pissed off by that pic of Aquinas attacking Islam. Was wondering if in this pic Aquinas was btfo'd and wanted to know y'alls opinion.

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Attempted takedown of Chris Pratt

No threads about this shitstorm yet?


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Rad trads, calendar worshipers, and fundamentalists are the Pharisees of Christianity?????

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>be me

>literature class

>teacher goes on and on how women weren't allowed to write nor read by the evil catholic church

>says women were submissive as if it were a bad thing

>described the social order of the middle ages as "the king in the top, clergy and then nobles" as if only a select few could become clergy

>describes the catholic church as a secret police death squad


>"the church sent crusades to kill, loot and pillage the middle east"

When does it all end? I can't take this anymore, virtually every class has a teacher talking about feminism, women's liberation and so on. Granted, this is a private course, but still, i think that the educated class of my country ( Brazil, a country with a catholic foundation!!) are infected with pozzed ideology and a hatred for the catholic church. How can we discredit those myths to the public? Honestly things just get worse for my country

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Impregnation (explicit)

One of the modern interventions that bible and Christians hardly clarify is the donation of reproductive cells. In several case of marriage either or both the husband or wife are infertile and if the couple still wishes to have a child, one method is to utilize foreign sperm or eggs into the mistress's womb.

Would this not be considered adultery because the person who gives their DNA will combines with the donor's (not their partner's) or can adultery only be characterized under a personal interaction between people?

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Whats /christian/ take on meditation?

Heresy, or another way to find god?

I personally find a great instrument to find spiritual peace, become aware to the present and feel gods grace, And you know, mute those perky nasty thoughts.

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What are the problems with Catholicism?

I know I'm probably going to get banned for this thread but… What do you find wrong with the Roman Catholic (and Eastern Orthodox) religion? Why do you choose to follow Biblical Christianity instead? RCCs/Orthos/Anglicans/Luthers are not allowed in this thread. Too often do I see le apostolics bitching about our theology but whenever we refute them the mods just ban us so hopefully we can create a thread where we don't get banned.

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How long did it take you to read the Bible?

I'm reading the 1611 KJV, and it's slow going to say the least. I'm currently on the book of Elazar. Is this something that is supposed to be accomplished in a relatively short time span? There are so many pages, Anons. With all the Apocrypha included it must be one of the longest books ever written. Any good strategies or advice? How long did it take you to read this thing?

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Redpill me on the Society of St Pius X

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Its 9:57pm and I dunno how to spend the sabbath. I always end up watching twitch or playing video games or lurking Youtube. Do you people really read the bible the whole entire time during it?

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E Michael Jones destroys 3 atheist alt right larpers at once

I noticed there has been a thread about "what about pagan arguments". Well this interview is what you're looking for. Jones completely destroys Spencer and his crew.

Notice that all they can do is:

>regurgitate few atheist talking points

>MUH nietzche

>Let's worship strength

>Muh white though

>be butthurt about their nihilism

Jones literally spoonfeeds them the Truth. Furthermore he does not deny the ethnic reality but as far as America is concerned, he clearly states that America has to do with what it has. He does not put "muh race against religion" as they try to put it to him. Although I do not completely agree with Jones on ethnicity - judging by another interview of his though he makes a solid points here.

Not trying to create dc thread about race/catholicism etc. I just think this is worth watching because he manages to sweep through the unbearable faggotry of the so called "alt right" with an amazing accuracy and they seem to be a kindergarten kids compared to him.

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Mary is the Mother of God, she will lead you to Jesus Christ our God. She is our mother. Respect your mother /christian/. The old law was a foreshadow to the new law, and it tells us to respect our parents. Respect God, who is your Father, and respect Mary, who is your mother. Amen. Baptists are not allowed in this thread.

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Grew up Presbyterian

Hey. I grew up Presbyterian but I stopped going when I was around 12 and forgot a lot about it. Can any other Presbyterian basically give me a quick run down on why it is different to other sectors and why you are Presbyterian? I would like to get involved again.

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Is it possible God has created other universes? Like other dimensions where the laws of physics are different, where reality is completely different, a reality that doesn't exist in our reality and where we don't exist in that reality, and maybe there are different kinds of beings in these separate realities.

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Is the Shack a good Christian movie or is it heresy?

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Hillsong Music

Post your favorite Hillsong worship music

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Demons in the Bible

Admittedly, I haven't read the whole OT yet, but from what I could find so far, besides Saul's evil spirit sent by God, demons are seemingly absent in the Old Testament.

Yet in the NT, there are numerous accounts of people being demon-possessed. Jesus performs quite a few exorcisms, and it seems as though the practice existed before He came to Earth (as Jesus points out in Luke 11:19 for example).

Am I mistaken about their absence from the OT?

And if not, what is the explanation behind this dichotomy?

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This is a very anti-Christian, not to mention anti-biology agenda that is going to spread across Canada. For those who don't know what SOGI is:

>SOGI 1 2 3 helps educators make schools inclusive and safe for students of all sexual orientations and gender identities (SOGI). At a SOGI-inclusive school, students' biological sex does not limit their interests and opportunities, and their sexual orientation and how they understand and express their gender are welcomed without discrimination. (taken from their website)

This piles up along with the attack on objective reality (Bill C-16), the pro-Muslim stance, millions of dollars to "trusted news organizations", I don't feel Canada is a country I can live in anymore and DEFINITELY not a place I can raise a child (if I have one). What can be done to in this world that has lost faith? Even my family aren't against it because they're either for it or a pacifist Christian. There does not seem to be any hope for this country and it seems like it will only get worse. Any other leafs conflicted with their home? What can be even done?Just accept being a martyr?

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Anyone have experience with these people?

worth going to? dont really care about the minute theological details

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Giving up on Christian women

>Be me

>25 years old, tall and not bad looking

>make over CAD$20,000 a month

>zero problems attracting secular women

>started going to church at 21

>work a lot, but still active in church life

>dont want to be known as a man whore so only ask about 6 women at 4 different churches in different cities over 3 years

>shut down each time

>often turn down secular women because they arent Christian

Should I even bother with church women anymore? It seems that the church women that arent married young would even turn down Jesus himself for a date.

Should i just convert a secular woman?

I'm not going to be unmarried at 28.

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Your favorite icons.

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Apostolic ecumenism

Given the Week of Prayer for Christian Unity just finished one or 2 days ago, and we haven't had a good old thread about this in a time, here's a place to celebrate what we have in common, so that "we may all be one"(John 17:21):




Common agreements:

Catholic-Eastern Orthodox:

Chieti Declaration:


Ravenna Document:


Other info:


Eastern Orthodox-Oriental Orthodox:

Collection of common declaration:


Pastoral Agreements between the Patriarchs of Alexandria recognizing some of the sacraments:


Agreement between the Sees of Antioch:


Oriental Orthodox-Catholic:

Various declarations:



2017 Agreement between Pope Francis and Pope Tawadros II:


Oriental Orthodox-Anglican:

Agreement on Common Christology: