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/christian/pol

>What is this thread?

The designated political discussion thread. Christians from all parts of the political spectrum are encouraged to discuss relevant political topics and ideas, as well as ask questions and hopefully recieve answers from all points of view. Anything related to politics that doesn't actively involve the Catholic/Orthodox/Protestant churches should go here, so if a politics thread is deleted, this thread is the reason why.

As a reminder:

All board rules apply to this thread, so keep things civil.

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Prayer Requests

“But I have prayed for you, that your faith would not fail. And you, when you have turned back, strengthen your brethren.”

Luke 22:32

Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition with thanksgiving, let your requests be known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your thoughts in Christ Jesus.

Philippians 4:6-7

Confess your offences to one another and pray for one another in order to be healed. The insistent prayer of a righteous person is powerfully effective!

James 5:16

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Please correct me if I am wrong.

Cultus latria, cultus hyperdulia, and cultus dulia are all forms of worship.

Cultus latria is worship due to God alone. See, what people typically associate with worship, including Protestants, is not worship by itself but actually adoration which is the substanially highest worship and the kind of worship given to deities, in the case of Catholic Christianity to God alone who is the only deity. So adoration is contained in latria and therefore adoration is the only worship to be given to God alone.

Then there is cultus hyperdulia and cultus dulia, these are also forms of worship. Therefore Catholics do indeed worship Mary and the Saints, however Catholics do not adore them, instead the form of worship that is given to them is veneration not adoration.

Therefore, all Christians offer worship, or rather, adoration to God alone. But many Christians, Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox included, also offer worship to others but not as latria but rather as dulia. And not just Christians, but in fact even many other monotheistic faiths.

This is how I've had it explained to me before. Is this correct?

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can anyone direct me to ACTUAL CHRISTIAN youtubers that have the ACTUAL light of god in them and arent corrupted by the OWLluminate ELITE GNOSTIC TRASH!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

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Hypothetical proposition

For the sake of argument, let's we created an AI that analyzed every bible translation, church father, interpretative word of the bible, Christian-theological debate, manuscript, etc. to answer the question of which Christian denomination resembles what the Jesus/apostles had in mind of the church.

If the answer is a different denomination than your own, would you join that church or appeal to emotion/authority then just walk away?

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Here we go again!

An "Orthodox theologian" is subtly advocating homosexual relationships within the Church. Papanikolaou is from Fordham University which is a Jesuit university in New York.

http://www.pravmir.com/unitarian-morality-with-a-little-theosis-sprinkled-on-top/

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Your mods are Satanists

They don't want you to fight back, just obey and build the 3rd Temple. That's why they delete these threads exposing chan satanists.

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Losing fear of death, hell and the wrath of God

How do i gain my fear of these back? I feel like a bastard of a child that pushes his parents buttons on purpose.

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forgiveness

This is the most bizarre story of forgiveness I've ever heard. It's something out of the twilight zone, watch it to the very end.

Should John have forgiven his attackers? Is that the Christian thing to do?

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Would people consider me a LARPer if I got a Deus Vult tattoo?

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Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia gotta be the hardest country in the world to be Christian in. How big is the Christian community in SA? Its nearly impossible to evangelize in SA but are there any missionaries in SA?

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"I-it says John the B-baptist not J-john the Catholic!"

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Is he ever coming back? How long is he going to make us wait?

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>beatified

I'd like a Catholic to try and defend this.

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The most holy Rosary

Entry note: This is a thread entirely dedicated to the most holy Rosary. No discussions about denomination, no "muh vain repititions", no "muh idolatry/goddess worship" or whatsoever. Discuss your experiences, all things Rosary-related, history, saints and so on and so forth.

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The Rosary. The prayer. The weapon.

Attacked by many - such as the devil and his demons - countless times. Prayed even more often. Consisting of divine prayers like the Angelic Salutation and the Our Father, has it been divinely revealed fully to St. Dominic by the blessed Virgin Mary. Despite the attacks of the devil and his minions has it been preserved through pious men and women, through our holy Mother and even Christ Himself - time and time again was it re-revealed when the faith grew weak and the people of God grew lazy and fell off the faith through tricks of the devil.

A prayer that goes with prayer beads - who are seen by God Himself and the angels, the holy ones as well as the fallen ones, as a sword. A powerful weapon to crush the enemies of God and to cut into the flesh of satan himself.

Will you stand by and neglect it ? Or will you join the ranks of the soldiers of God, armed with the weapon that can convert people as it can destroy evil likewise ?

The Rosary consists of 5 prayers: The Sign of the Cross, the (Apostolic) Creed, the Our Father, the Hail Mary and the Minor Doxology. In private you may add prayers such as the prayer request by our lady of Fatima - the so-called Fatima prayer - the Hail, Holy Queen, Litanies and others.

With every decade of Hail Mary's you meditate a different mystery. There are 4 (in the German-speaking realm 5) sets of mysteries for us to meditate, of which each one consists of 5 mysteries:

The joyful mysteries

The luminous mysteries

The sorrowful mysteries

The glorious mysteries

(The comforting mysteries)

For those not knowing how to pray it yet: https://www.rosarycenter.org/homepage-2/rosary/how-to-pray-the-rosary/

This talk is long and comprehensive and you will learn not only about the history of the Rosary but how satan tried to destroy is, time after time after time after time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwVdYXyxln0

This book of St. Louis Grignion de Montfort is a very comprehensive yet never-exhausted source on the most holy Rosary, THE source for you when it comes to spirituality of the Rosary: http://www.catholictradition.org/Classics/secret-rosary.htm

Praise the Lord ! Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit. Amen.

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Huh?

>Ask why you guys venerate those who have passed away

>Linked me to 2 Maccabees

>It's about an individual who interceded several dead Jews, so they wouldn't have sins, including a moral sin (idolatry), at the time of "resurrection".

How is this an example of the physically dead interceding for our sins?

I don't have the greatest reading comprehension. So, did I miss something?

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Seriously Catholics how is this not idolatry?

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QTDDTOT

Didn't see a qtddtot in the catalog, so I'm creating one. I'll start it off with this question. Is sodomy between a man and a woman sinful?

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/christian/ Relationship General #7: Mods pls ban yellow fever posts

THE RESPONSIBILITY IS YOURS

As someone who is quite successful in finding a wife, I seek to help my own sanity by keeping all the boohoo no-gf/waifu lamentations to one thread. You can't complain if you don't give it an honest try as anything is possible with God. I found my very own christ-chan, thank the Lord all the more for it, and seek to help you too.

PRIMER

>Become someone worthy of dating

Self esteem is not the pride of life, as we can't ever love someone else if we can't love ourselves as children and representatives of Christ.

>>>/fit/

In relation to the above, you can't be a slob and expect to attract a 10/10, as its indicative of entitlement and egocentrism as you don't have a right to anyone's affection. A strong body requires a strong mind. Learn what your TDEE is, make a goal weight, learn to love skim milk, and do cardio and compound movements biweekly at least. The person who God has for you will appreciate it, encourage it, and join you.

>Be learned and confident in Christian doctrine

Be confident in what the bible says, and what's expected of you. A good marriage minded Christian will quiz you to see if you are legitimate in your beliefs or are just desperate for companionship. Start with the minimum of proverbs, ecclesiastes, and the New Testament. Even at just one chapter a day, this should take you about 10 months to complete.

FUNDAMENTAL CHRISTIAN PHILOSOPHIES

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivity_(philosophy)

We serve the eternal God, who is the very essence of Objectivity by virtue of being the creator who clearly defined the reality in which we live through His intelligent design.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asceticism#Christianity

In this reality, we are called to cast aside, as much as possible, whatever seperates us from worshipping and glorifying our Objective God for our salvation via His Son Jesus Christ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualism

Only Jesus can save us, but no one else is responsible for us as individuals in accepting Him as our Lord and Savior.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honesty

Defined as "fairness and straightforwardness of conduct" and "adherence to the facts." Take an honest assessment of yourself, your desires, faults, and make a plan to reach your desires by minimizing your faults. Reconcile that you will need to be just as honest about what you find to your potential mate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neostoicism

Practicing all of the above will earn us scorn from the lukewarm and heathen alike. We are called as believers to endure the suffering of unjust criticism and the natural difficulties that come with living in a secular world.

INTEL

https://www.christianmingle.com/

>Does it cost money?

free to join, only communicating via the site/app costs money. This can be circumvented somewhat by leaving your full name on your profile and the smart ones will make their cm handle the same as their fb/ig handle.

>Which tier should I get?

3 months tops. You will either find enough suitors to keep you busy, find the one, or you will completely burn out due to lack of success.

https://www.match.com (SECULAR, free to join, claims to have the largest Christian dating pool on the net, proceed with caution and don't answer any of those stupid questions as they will be stalked)

https://www.christiandatingforfree.com (free join/message, qt vault but possible bots)

https://www.catholicmatch.com/ (Mostly for Roman Catholics, maybe you can get away with identifying as "little c"atholic if you aren't a dirty papist.)

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Christianity VS Islam

Which one is right? What is your reason for being Christian and not Muslim?

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Sodomites are starting to become bolder and impudent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jObTsgRYuHA

How soon until we start hearing of rape mobs forming in liberal cities?

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How does Latin American Catholicism differ from European Catholicism?

Are the Hispanics really taking intercession of the saints to the next level and just worship them like Idols?

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If we ever make contact with intelligent, extraterrestrial life, what impact would that have on Christianity?

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is the mainstream media trying to normalize cannibalism? Something smells demonic.

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Tourist from halfchan here. I recently came into possession of ~250 scholarly texts on the early church and church fathers and am trying to share them as widely as possible. Figured you guys would appreciate them. Enjoy.

https://mega.nz/#F!2HhTlZBJ!jHF_eB114aXuksvKWP9Z1w

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What does /christian/ think of a call for a uprising? He sorta like the vigilante christian without asking for gibs or promoting Blasphemous veganism. Points out how Jews, Nazis and satanists are one and the same. Does demonology videos.

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Question for KJV Onlyist

What translations of the Bible should non-English speakers use? Seriously, how do KJV Onlyist get around this? Is the English language the only language currently that has the inspired word of God? Do you propose translating the KJV into other languages? But then if you did that it couldn't be the KJV because no language operates exactly like English, especially for archaic English words that have no meaning in other languages, how would your translate that? Best guesses? Manipulation of vocab? But that still wouldn't be perfect. Or should people who speak other languages use a Bible version that closely follows the manuscript traditions that the translators of the KJV used? I'm just curious as to how you further preform your mental gymnastics regarding this issue.

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Is Racemixing Prohibited or Allowed?

Like the question is racemixing allowed? I mean there are disadvantages to racemixing, (identity crisises for children and etc.) but I was wondering whether or not it was mention in the bible as well or is the concept just reduced to some stories in the old testament

>pic not related

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Downvote and attack any pro trans phaggets

https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/8yty80/christian_doctor_fired_for_saying_people_cannot/

Let's do a bit of the Lords work, downvote and attack any pro phaggotry comments (sadly almost all of them are) in that thread.

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What kind of church should I attend today?

Hey /Christian/,

So far I've explored baptist, pentecostal, vineyard, cornerstone, catholic, LDS, anglican, and 12 tribes.

12 tribes is by far the most loving and serious body I've experienced.

I'm wondering if anyone has any interesting ideas of churches to attend today. The more out of the ordinary it is, the more it will be appreciated.

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Well....

Is he right Catholics…?

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What does /christian/ think of Liberation theology and the 'jesus loves all' types? How do you BTFO them on a theological level?

Also what do you guys think of this flowchart I got sent?

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A thread on pregnancy, labor and parenting children

"And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me."

I will officially be a parent within the next week or so. I am interested in /christian/'s views on raising children.

So far my partner are at least comitted to: no screen time until at leat 10, and even then supervised. Homeschooling. Healthy diet. And of course church and Bible.

What do you guys think of Epidurals and vaccines also?

We're inclined to take a more holistic approach particularly with birth, but would not refuse medical intervention in an emergency.

How many anons here have children?

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Should I be (Southern) Baptist or Presbyterian? Convince me.

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Earnest seekers of God stuck in other faiths.

What happens to decent people who seek God earnestly, pray, live charitable lives dedicated to helping others but are stuck in a non-christian environment where converting doesn't enter their minds, because they think they're already being drawn to God through some other faith. Like decent mormons or muslims or whatever.

I lived with a Bahai family who were extraordinarily kind and generous, I was a hard-atheist at the time, and kind of disrespectful, but they were very patient with me. And they often tried to get me to see the world from a different light, to seek God, not even to join their religion but to see that good and evil are objective things and there's more to life than the material and perceptible. They had a big impact on me eventually finding Christ…They're still Bahai to this day and when they heard I became Christian they were very excited and happy for me.

I often wonder why God doesn't lead them to Christ. I can't imagine them going to hell if they died today. It would make no sense….

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> Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes?

> They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.

> Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.

>At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.

> Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things.

> Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast.

>They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again.

>Proverbs 23:29-35

"Apostolics" absolutely BTFO! Jesus used grape juice.

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NoFap

Christ died to free you from this sin. How dare you run back to it. FLEE from sexual immorality, and run back into the arms of Jesus.

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Is this overblown hype?

So, from this article it appears as another step closer toward a possible female diaconate within the Catholic Church. Any anons more familiar with this that can point out the flaws in this Vatican release? http://archive.fo/zxKdt

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Is the current migrant crises and separation of children from their families a big deal to modern day Christians?

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Send help

What do us Christians do with the consequentualist question on God's morals? If God knew what was going to happen then this means God allows evil.

It God knew what would happen before they fall then why did he allow it if he is pure good? Why must be Gods moral law so far and alien to us?

After the fall, known empirical history really isnt beautiful. Its a bloodbath and a debauch scene of biological desires.

I never really got that much right sound answers from classical theism.

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No man with crushed or severed genitals may enter the assembly of the LORD.

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Is Self-Defense a Sin in Christianity?

I heard that self-defense is a sin, or does it depend on the denomination? For example I have been looking at other forums outside of 8ch on this topic to see how others would think. I saw that a lot of people actually supported the notion of self-defense being a sin,

Here are forums I am referring to:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php?topic=63753.0

https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/orthodox-view-of-self-defence.176905/

http://orthochristian.com/96216.html

So what do you guys have to say about this topic, and what does the Scripture support?

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http://www.aish.com/jw/s/48892792.html?mobile=yes this article made me doubt Christianity. Can you giys help me? I feel like I am falling away from the truth

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Was he right? do not delete, (m)olek.

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Help sought from Baptists and Protestants Only

>Dad is an elder in a conservative Presbyterian congregation

>I grew up in the Reformed faith

>memorized the shorter catechism as a kid

>loved theology and read everything I could get my hands on

>end up reading Reformed Baptist works and begoming Credobaptist

>go to a conservative Reformed college

>major in Philosophy

>not a practical major but I love it

>I love Augustine, although I only read selections from him beyond City of God and Confessions

>get a scholarship to a prominent Reformed seminary

>start summer classes and take Church History, Early Church to the Reformation

>read a few chapters in the beginning of Schaff's Ante-Nicene Fathers

>Man, I love this stuff

>Keep reading

>End up reading all ANF over the summer, staying up late into the night

>Over the next semester I'm swamped, so I drop a class just so I can continue reading Nicene/Post-Nicene Fathers

>Realize that they believed differently than the 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith

>wtf, heretics

>actually, no, I kept reading

>start reading John of Damascus and asking the (well-known) Historical Theology professor questions

>I don't get answers and he finally tells me that Apostolic Fathers abandoned the original faith (as defined in the 1646 WCF)

>Have a hard time reconciling the historical development Canon with what I've been taught

>Finally a pastor on the seminary board of directors, two professors, and my current Reformed Baptist pastor sit down with me to discuss problems

>I'm told that if I continue to question Reformed interpretations of Scripture in the light of the Early Fathers, continue "sowing seeds of doubt", a defend the (Lutheran view) presence of Christ in the Lord's Supper, I will lose my scholarship, as well as be asked to leave the seminary.

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not a papist, nor do I think that doctrines such as Purgatory or the Immaculate Conception are remotely biblical. I agree that indulgences and the treasury of merit is rediculous. I just don't know how to reconcile my beliefs with the Early Father's position on baptism, the Lord's Table, church government, salvation, etc. I don't want to repudiate my Reformed faith, as that would mean the loss of family relationships, friends, my church, and really everything I've known and held.

James White, R.C. Sproul, Todd Friel, etc. haven't been convincing, nor do they seem to be able to reconcile the absence of Reformed doctrines in the Early Church. (Like the RPW, for example.)

Does anyone have any other resources I could look to? I've reached out to as many professors as I could.

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Do Catholics and Orthodox have a different teaching regarding profanity? The seem to be a lot more relaxed about it compared to Protestants. I grew in a non-denominational(which is basically Baptist lite) community and even saying something as benign as "ass" was seen as a borderline sin. I've noticed, however, that Apostolics tend to swear and make vulgar jokes much more frequently than Protestants. Even the priest at this Catholic parish I visited last Sunday made a joke about a the breasts of a woman he knew growing up when telling the congregation to dress modestly. I wasn't offended truth be told, I make worse jokes than that all the time, but it was surprising to hear a priest say something like that. Do you guys have a different teaching regarding this sort of thing?

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NoFap Thread

27 You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Matthew 5:27-28

19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 1 Corinthians 6:19

8 Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Galatians 6:8

Post your NoFap successes/woes/prayer requests/ etc.

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Meme thread

New meme thread because the old one is autosaging, starting with a request: I need the exploitable 8ch logo, have this crop in return

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itt: atheist cringe I'll start.

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>A priest in Ireland got tired of listening to people explain why they don't go to church on Sundays. He wrote this in the bulletin.

tfw I haven't showered in months… :[

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Popular Video Game ‘Fortnite’ is Turning Some Children into “Nightmares”

Why are evangelicals such horrible parents? Anyone else noticed this? They want the government to raise their kids for them. It almost like serving Israel more important to them than theirs kids.

https://www.movieguide.org/news-articles/popular-video-game-fortnite-is-turning-some-children-into-nightmares.html

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Thoughts on Sunday being a day of rest?

What should you not do on a Sunday?

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WORKING FOR THE JEW

Convert anon here, theres a customer I used to contract for whose a zionist jew. I feel very uneasy about dealing with him now, although the dealings are honest and the business itself there is nothing wrong with.

I simply dont want anything to do with anyone whose people sold our Lord for silver.

Am I in the wrong here? Perhaps just not (((tolerant))) enough? wat do?

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Pondering Calvinism

>Regarding the Perseverance of the Saints:

>I do not know how some people, who believe that a Christian can fall from grace, manage to be happy. It must be a very commendable thing in them to be able to get through a day without despair. If I did not believe in the doctrine of the final perseverance of the saints, I think I should be of all men most miserable, because I should lack any ground of comfort. – Spurgeon

My Church doesn't teach preservation of the saints and I realized it's causing my faith to waver every time I sin. I have times of confidence, and then I stumble and ask myself "Am I even Christian? If I love God/Christ then why do I fail and fail and fail?" And if I were to die before my next confession/repentance then I'd be doomed, and salvation seems highly unlikely. One of my friends routinely says he's "probably" going to hell and I find this very depressing since he motivated me to actually go to Church instead of just being spiritually 'private'.

>Regarding Total Depravity and Irresistible Grace:

>When you say, “Can God make me become a Christian?” I tell you yes, for herein rests the power of the gospel. It does not ask your consent; but it gets it. It does not say, “Will you have it?” but it makes you willing in the day of God’s power….The gospel wants not your consent, it gets it. It knocks the enmity out of your heart. You say, I do not want to be saved; Christ says you shall be. He makes our will turn round, and then you cry,”‘Lord save, or I perish!” – Spurgeon

How is this view compatible with free-will and love? True love seems to require some form of consent, yet at the same time when I think about falling in love with my girlfriend it felt like I had no choice, like I was just magnetically pulled towards her. Where does the bible teach monergism anyway?

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Is masturbation always a sin?

No Porn, no girlfriend/wife, not too often. I’m thinking it’s bad because I should be using this sexual energy to find a wife.

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They didn't ask, 'Where is God,

who brought us out of the land of Egypt,

who led us through the desert,

through a land of wastes and ravines,

through a land of drought and death-dark shadows,

through a land where no one travels

and where no one ever lived?'

I brought you into a fertile land to enjoy its fruit and all its good things;

but when you entered you defiled my land

and made my heritage loathsome.

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Who is this?

Could someone tell me who this is? Blessings

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Can someone explain what is going on?

Why are freemasons welcomed to mass in brazil? This has happened at a few churches…

>""What unites us is much bigger than what separates us". That was the message of the Metropolitan Archbishop of Manaus, Monsignor Sergio Castrini, during the celebration in the Sagrada Familia church of Tarumã for the expansion of the orders of improvement dependent on the Grand Orient of Brazil, in friendship with the Grand Lodge of Spain. "God is love and the way of knowledge is love. Love is always an answer, mainly to God who loved us first. The cross that you bring in your insignia is the sign of God's love for humanity, "said the archbishop who concluded his homily with a request to the Freemasons present, of Christian condition:" We hope you always continue to provide these services to society and mainly by being faithful to Christian principles and to communion with the Church, because the Church can be different on the surface. ""

>Memorial Mass for the "Day of the Freemason", celebrated by Father Geraldo de Magela Silva, of the Diocese of Pesqueira (state of Pernambuco, Brazil.)

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>Roe v Wade will be overruled in our lifetime

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Should a Christian ever now before a carved image? What if the North Koreans said they're only venerating what these statues represent?

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Is the story of Samson literal? All the other Judges used armies to free the Isrealites from bondage, but did Samson really defeat an entire Philistine army by himself with a crude bone knife? Was he like a DBZ character?

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What are some good Christian videogames?

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The original radical traditionalists

Today is the feast day of St Nikodemus the Hagiorite so i decided to take the chance to throw some light on the, relatively unknown, Kollyvades movement, which St Nikodemus played a great role at.

The Kollyvades were monks who in the 18th century decided to fight back against alien influences on Orthodox Christianity from the west, and also European atheism (rampant on intellectual circles at the time) and Islam.

>The movement derives its name from the kollyva (boiled wheat) which is used during memorial services. Its proponents were Athonite monks who adhered strictly to Holy Tradition, and were opposed to unwarranted innovations. They were in favor of the frequent reception of Holy Communion, and practiced unceasing prayer of the heart. They insisted that memorial services should not be performed on Sundays, because that is the day of the Lord's Resurrection. In the Orthodox Church, Saturday is the usual day for the commemoration of the dead.

Let the Kollyvades and other related movements (like the movement of Papoulakos, another relatively unknown movement for tradition and the correct faith) serve as a reminder to all of us that the responsibillity of keeping our traditions and the correct teachings of Christ lies in our hands, never let anyone tell you otherwise ;)

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Favorite Bible Translation?

Thoughts on the CSB translation? Thinking about picking one up. Is it slanted too much towards Protestant interpretation like the KJV?

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>three evolution threads at once

>multiple threads pitting denominations against one another

Looks like some fishy attempts to D&C the board. Be prudent about which threads you respond to, lads.

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Find a flaw. Are there any?

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Theosis

Can I get a layman to explain the orthodox concept of theosis?

(And maybe some Protestant opinion)

Here's a description I found on Google.

http://ww1.antiochian.org/content/theosis-partaking-divine-nature

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How many online Christians are in it just to LARP?

I see a lot of Christians online (usually trad Catholics or Orthodox) do nothing but spend their time on forums posting controversial memes, flinging insults at other Christians, and being generally uncharitable. All of this makes me wonder: if it weren't for the edgy community the internet provided them, would they be nearly as devout?

I catch myself doing these things at times and I can't help but ask myself the same question. Do you guys ever wonder this as well?

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Christian Comedy

What do you guys watch/enjoy for comedy, besides memes?

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Future of Christianity (MAP)

I just made this map. Is it mostly correct? For the dark blue sections, I only included countries where Christianity is still relevant, even if it's only to a minority of the population, as well as the majority of course. So an obvious answer for the majority would be the United States or Poland. But a strong, religious Christian minority example would be in Lebanon (35% or so) and Egypt (15%). Countries like Spain or Britain may have more Christians in bulk than Lebanon or Egypt, but the actual number of religious Christians is miniscule there, and they are no longer relevant. I debated whether or not France should be included, you guys tell me.

The light blue sections consist of countries where Christianity is growing rapidly.

> China

At least 70million Christian converts from Taoism or atheism. Enormously powerful movement that is being persecuted by the communist Chinese government, very sadly nostalgic of what the Soviets did to orthodox churches. Still, their growth is unstoppable in China, making it the fastest-growing religion in the world's most populous country.

> Indonesia

While less populated than China, Indonesia actually has the fastest growth rate of Christian converts. It's the most populated Muslim nation on earth, but because there is no punishment for conversion/apostasy from Islam, the conversion rate is enormous. By 2040, it is possible that the world's largest Muslim nation could be majority Christian.

> Iran

Unlike Indonesia, apostasy from Islam is punishable with imprisonment, lashing, and death in some cases. Yet Christianity is still the fastest-growing religion in the Islamic Republic. There was already an existing minority of ancient Persian christians, but recently millions more have shown interest. The actual numbers in Iran are unknown due to the Islamic government refusing to do a legitimate census. Most of these new Iranian christian converts practice underground.

> India

Most people don't think of India when they think of Christianity, but there is actually a decent population. Like Iran, India always had a tiny Christian minority dating back to ancient periods, but there is a larger conversion movement in the past 15 or so years.

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Christian Perspective on drinking

Greetings Brethren, I seek council to decide an issue that has been stirring in my heart.

>before college never drink

>never drink much at all at college

>friend hosts party to watch Olympics, alcohol has been served

>cave to peer pressure and teasing, drink a little

>hate the taste but pace myself and end up drinking a good bit so as to match the room of the event

>was in the company of good friends in a safe environment, everyone looking out for one another

>still wake up heartbroken because I thought I had committed a sin

I was never “drunk” (walked back to my dorm, could probably pass a breathalyzer, easily make rational decisions etc) however I was not 100% sober. Is this sin? At what point does enjoying the company of friends and indulging in spirits become sin?

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Bread Pill thread.

Post why Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.

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Some honestly explain to me why this is not heresy?

How is the Pope kissing the Quran not heresy?

And even if not ex-cathedra etc etc how can the Vicar of Christ do something like that, this is an insult to all the European nations who suffered at the hands of Islam…did Euro countries go apeshit when this happened?

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The Appeal of Fringe Metal

Not sure how /christian/ related this is, but perhaps this can lead to some discussion of the underlying worldviews of some who stand in opposition of us.

One common thread I've noticed amongst far-right pagans, atheists, the alt right/dissident right, fascists, national socialists, so-called "traditionalists", nihilists, the far right in general and tumbler-esque sub-labels of the aforementioned (i.e. anarcho-syndicalist-communo-fascists, etc.) is a love of fringe metal. I.e. Black, Death, Thrash, and all the associated little sub-genres and mashup/crossbred genres. But why?

I've heard two polar opposite accounts of this phenomenon: one side claiming that such music shares kinship with other complex and revered forms of music, such as classical and jazz; another side purports that such music is intentionally made to be low in sound quality and fidelity in order to be more "raw" and "genuine." Either way, there was a time that I sincerely tried to give such genres of music a chance because of how hyped they were in such communities, only to be shocked and disappointed by, with a few rare exceptions, how same-ish, monotonous and repetitive such so-called complex and raw and sincere forms of such music are. Hear one song or album, and you've basically heard it all. I recently mislabeled a Death Metal song as Thrash Metal, because I could barely tell the difference.

Regardless of the reasoning, the various political/religious movements I mentioned all seem to preach some variation of a an anti-modernist pro-traditional values mindset. So why do such groups adore a set of musical sub-genres that revel in degenerate lyrics and aesthetics, with some groups at the very least indulging in displays of shock and exploitation if not being just outright Satanic? Christian fans of even so-called "Christian" forms of such music puzzle me even further, as such music, on a purely sonic and sound level, is designed from the ground up to kindle passions of anger, rage and sometimes despair, and slapping "Jesus" into the lyrics doesn't seem like it's going to change that aspect that much, if at all.

So what does it say about the subconscious and psychology of those who claim to be for traditional and family values, and yet champion a form of music that even traditionalists of old would be repulsed by? One such "traditionalist nihilist" organization, American Nihilist Underground Society, (which actually uses an acronym form of their name, which I will avoid using here for obvious reasons) even outright promotes and celebrates the "International Day of Slayer."

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Orthodox General

Purpose

This thread is to help all the Orthodox anons on this board to gather their thoughts, uplift each other, share edifying materials, and ask important questions.

Glory be to God in all things.

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner.

Useful Links

Ancient Faith Radio: http://www.ancientfaith.com/

OrthodoxWiki: https://orthodoxwiki.org/Main_Page

Canons of the Seven Ecumenical Councils: http://www.intratext.com/IXT/ENG0835/_INDEX.HTM

The Orthodox Church in America: https://oca.org/

Orthodox Christianity (a site that hosts articles predominantly written by clergy): http://orthochristian.com/

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I have a crazy story to share, and due to it's nature I can't share all the details. I feel like I fell straight into hell but just before the fires consumed me an angel pulled me onto a ledge and and I'm not out of he'll but he's protecting me. Let me explain, I'll have to be a bit vague but I'll give selective details in following posts.

I was an avowed agnostic. I liked religious people but didn't actively believe. Many negative experiences directly with Christianity as a child turned me off to it, as well as other things. My family was extremely religious though. I've always kept my nose clean, never been arrested, no drugs, well liked by those who know me. I lived as an utter recluse though.

Last month I was arrested. My charges are… unique. Without being specific, I did something legal but attention grabbing which I couldn't be charged with so they looked for anything else they could get me on and came up with 17 felonies… So far. They killed my dog, I was extradited across the country, nearly took a month, nearly died in transport as it took nearly a month and they didn't provide us healthy food, good hygiene, clean environments, comfortable temperatures, virtually any sleep or any medical care. Jail itself wasn't nearly as bad, but I was so utterly crushed and hopeless with no where else to turn I turned to God. I begged for any help at all. I begged for a way out, I promised i'd build endless churches if he'd save me. It kept coming up inside, most of the prisoners werr religious too and it turned out to be an easy way to make friends. Just profess faith. I wouldn't even say that, just that I was trying and reading from a bible. I read random verses, kept getting stuff like Job, the death of Samson, etc.

Long story short, I and my family are extremely poor, I expected a public defender and a prison sentence but a few days after I finally reached the state I was extradited too, after a system mix up prevented me from being permitted any phone calls and with no money and my debit card expiring the month I was arrested, I had nothing, but to my surprise while I was in my family worked tirelessly. They found a firm to help me, they paid my bond, which I'm told was shockingly low, they reached out to everyone who knew me. Everyone pitched in, even my landlord paid my bail and refused to charge me rent until when and if I was back. Remembering this always makes me tear up.

So I made bond but I couldn't leave the state I was extradited to, and even if I could I can't afford two cross country plane tickets a month. The ironic thing is this whole thing brought our family closer together. Me and my brother both have a lot of reasons to be mad at her, he'd cut her off completely, I still took care of her but hadn't told her I loved her in years.

Unable to leave the state my brother found me a homeless shelter, a religious homeless shelter that's also a treatment program for addictions, a men's crisis center. Strict, but good food. My brother believes taking part in their program will help my case.

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Ethiopian Orthodox Church (Terawehdo?)

What does /christian/ think of EOC? For example they don't eat pork and women cant go to mass if they have their period. Book of Enoch is also Canon in their Bible. Their holy language is Ge'ez

They are Miaphysities

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I got saved!

I just got saved, and i have to say that it's absolutely unbelievable, i repented my sins, and Jesus forgave them. I now have this explainable peace upon me. I've always believed in God, but never had a personal relationship with him. I probably spent years studying theology here without being saved, and it was probably easy to tell that i wasn't saved despite knowing some theology.

I never dreamed God could actually "talk" to me in this way, this is absolutely amazing. Before i was like someone whose spirit was under attack from years of porn and fapping, and now i am like a new person, without flashbacks of my sins, or asking for death.

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Learning Gregorian Chant

Hey all,

A while back we had a thread with someone interested in learning chant. In the thread, I said I'd post some stuff to help out later. Well, lest I be called a liar, here it is. The attached pdf is the same intro packet my church chant group uses. I'm also going to post the notation for some popular songs.

From wiki:

Gregorian Chant

Gregorian chant is the central tradition of Western plainchant, a form of monophonic, unaccompanied sacred song of the Roman Catholic Church. Gregorian chant developed mainly in western and central Europe during the 9th and 10th centuries, with later additions and redactions. Although popular legend credits Pope St. Gregory the Great with inventing Gregorian chant, scholars believe that it arose from a later Carolingian synthesis of Roman chant and Gallican chant.

Gregorian chants were organized initially into four, then eight, and finally 12 modes. Typical melodic features include a characteristic ambitus, and also characteristic intervallic patterns relative to a referential mode final, incipits and cadences, the use of reciting tones at a particular distance from the final, around which the other notes of the melody revolve, and a vocabulary of musical motifs woven together through a process called centonization to create families of related chants. The scale patterns are organized against a background pattern formed of conjunct and disjunct tetrachords, producing a larger pitch system called the gamut. The chants can be sung by using six-note patterns called hexachords. Gregorian melodies are traditionally written using neumes, an early form of musical notation from which the modern four-line and five-line staff developed. Multi-voice elaborations of Gregorian chant, known as organum, were an early stage in the development of Western polyphony.

Gregorian chant was traditionally sung by choirs of men and boys in churches, or by men and women of religious orders in their chapels. It is the music of the Roman Rite, performed in the Mass and the monastic Office. Although Gregorian chant supplanted or marginalized the other indigenous plainchant traditions of the Christian West to become the official music of the Christian liturgy, Ambrosian chant still continues in use in Milan, and there are musicologists exploring both that and the Mozarabic chant of Christian Spain. Although Gregorian chant is no longer obligatory, the Roman Catholic Church still officially considers it the music most suitable for worship. During the 20th century, Gregorian chant underwent a musicological and popular resurgence.

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Christian Genre Fiction

We all know about Tolkien and Lewis, so let's discuss other gems from Christian sci-fi, fantasy, horror, etc.

One work that I haven't seen discussed much here is The Book Of The New Sun, a four-book series by Catholic writer Gene Wolf. It's considered one of the masterpieces of science-fiction literature and is focused on the Christ-like executioner Severian.

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I fucking hate Islam.

I have the same attitude towards Islam as St. John Chrysostom and Martin Luther had towards Jews. Jews also really piss me off too, but I hate Islam more than anything. They're such blasphemous pigs! Their mosques are winnie the pooh places where demons dwell! They worship Satan himself! If I could I would smash all their mosques and everything they consider holy to pieces. I winnie the pooh truly HATE HATE HATE Islam. It pisses me off so much!

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In light of the recent orthodox spammer, I think it is worthwhile if we all take five minutes to read the short sermon “On Anger“ by St. John Chrysostom. I had been meaning to make a thread about the abominably wrathful state of this board, and the golden tounged preacher has given me a good opportunity to overcome my laziness in this task. I think this is particularly needed here because many anons are a apt to throwing around snippets of Chrysostom's sermons against the Jews and the sodomites, echoing his opinions in a way that is base, indulgent, and lopsided rather than edifying, humble, and, most importantly, inspiring. This behavior is most prevalent on these two topics given how much they pain Christ, but as with all imageboards, the problem of anger extends to all topics. Given that Chrysostom was declared the patron saint of the board in it's inception, I feel like the man wants to see this board's main demon tackled, so let's tackle it with the finest wellspring of sacred, salvation guarding tradition the Church has to offer.

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Assuming the trend of God punishing nations for disobedience by having them overrun by foreign hordes continued after Jesus, what did the Byzantine Empire do wrong?

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What denominations are you and why?

Reasons for picking the denomination you're currently in?

Please take debates to another thread. :)

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Sexual morality thread.

So femdom is obviously sinful, right? Since the natural order is:

God

|

|

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Man

|

Woman

and femdom reverses the Man - Woman order.

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Is exorcism real?

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/christian/ is a Baptist board.

/christian/ is from henceforth a Baptist board. The KJV is the only Bible allowed to be used on here. The church fathers are now deemed heretics. Apostolics banned. Apostolics GET OUT!

If you ban me and delete this thread I'll just switch and make another thread there is no stopping this.

Come Baptist brothers, let us take this board once and for all. Baptists are the only TRUE Christians and he KJV is the only true Bible.

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Is the Southern Baptist Convention a good denomination to join?

and no I am not going to consider begoming gadolig or ordododx

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Are bingo nights in church appropriate?

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Catholic General

NON EST VERA LIBERTAS NISI IN SOLA ECCLESIA CATHOLICA

The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for general Catholic discussion. Mass, readings, rosary - everything that is connected with the faith.

Other denominations welcome, although we politely ask you to keep the arguments about our theological differences in other threads.

Useful links:

Official Vatican website: www.vatican.va

Today's readings: www.ewtn.com/daily-readings/

Papal encyclicals: www.papalencyclicals.net

Catholic encyclopedia online: www.newadvent.org/cathen/

Summa Theologiae of St. Thomas Aquinas online: www.newadvent.org/summa/

How to pray the rosary: www.rosarycenter.org/homepage-2/rosary/how-to-pray-the-rosary/

Divine Office (liturgy of the hours): www.divineoffice.org/welcome/

Little Office of the Immaculate Conception: www.catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?p=1925

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Feminazi from South Korea desecrates the host

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/culturesports/2018/07/11/0701000000AEN20180711010600315.html

>SEOUL, July 11 (Yonhap) – The local Catholic community expressed outrage Wednesday after a member of a radical anti-male women's group openly damaged a sacramental wafer, known as the Body of Christ, with a message lashing out the religion for oppressing women.

>On Tuesday, the unidentified member of the Internet-based misandry group "Womad" posted a photo of a burned communion wafer with a message laden with foul language denouncing the religion for belittling women. It cited the story of God creating a woman with Adam's rib and the religion's ban on women becoming priests.

>The member claimed there was no reason whatsoever to respect the religion, accusing it of opposing policies that protect women's human rights, such as the proposal to legitimize abortion.

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Archaeologists Discover Entrance Gate to Biblical City of Zer, Where Jesus Fed Thousands in Miracle

https://www.christianpost.com/news/archaeologists-discover-entrance-gate-to-biblical-city-of-zer-where-jesus-fed-thousands-in-miracle-225846/

>Archaeologists have reportedly uncovered the ancient entrance gate to the biblical city of Zer in Israel, also known as Bethsaida, which is mentioned in the New Testament as the city where Jesus fed the 5,000 with five loaves and two fish in one His most well-known miracles.

>"There are not many gates in this country from this period. Bethsaida was the name of the city during the Second Temple period, but during the First Temple period it was the city of Zer," said Dr. Rami Arav, director of the Bethsaida Project, according to The Jerusalem Post.

>The discovery of the gate was made during excavations carried out in the Golan Heights, with the size and wealth of the fortification suggesting that Zer was a big city.

>In recent weeks, archaeologists have also found coins, beads, jugs, a house key, along with a shield that belonged to a Roman soldier. One of the coins was dated back to 35 BCE, or not long before the birth of Christ.

>Arav has been carrying out excavations in the Bethsaida area for close to 30 years, which have increased the popularity of the region, and led to masses of Christian pilgrims visiting the site.

>Avi Lieberman, director of the Jordan Park, where Bethsaida is located, said that the latest discovery can attract even more people.

>"The staff at the Jordan Park and the Golan Tourism are happy for the tens of thousands of visitors who visit the park every day. The wonderful park is also an impressive archaeological site. I [am] amazed each time by the arrival of thousands of evangelical visitors to Bethsaida. I am confident that the latest discoveries will bring more visitors to the park from around the world and from Israel," Lieberman said.

>Relics of other faiths have also been discovered in and around Bethsaida. In January, an Israeli team identified a small, highly decorated pottery shard, which is about 2,300 years old, depicting the birth of the Greek goddess Athena.

>Although the shard was originally found in 2016, researchers had been unable to determine until then that it depicts Athena springing to life fully formed from the head of her father Zeus.

>Another notable discovery came in 2014, when archaeologists found a rare Roman coin issued in 85 CE by Agrippa II bearing the phrase "Judea Capta," meant to mark the victory over the Jewish rebels and the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem.

>The residents of ancient Bethsaida are criticized by Jesus in Matthew 11, when He calls them out, among others, for refusing to believe the Gospel despite witnessing His miracles.

>"Woe to you, Bethsaida!" He says. "For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. But I tell you, it will be more bearable on the day of judgment for Tyre and Sidon than for you."

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Do you know how much it offends Jesus if you believe you have to do good works to maintain your salvation?

If you are saved, you are with God, God is with you, and your good deeds are God's.

To even say "I must also have works" is saying that those works are of you, that you haven't completely accepted Jesus's sacrifice as absolving you of all of your sins, and that your salvation is still somehow your own doing.

Those who are saved will sin again in this world, but Jesus knows that they will return to the truth and His love.

God doesn't appreciate people taking credit for what he is doing.

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/Creation General/

Here you can post everything about Evolution, Creation, interpretation of Genesis and so on. I figured that it would be better to have this contamination thread, instead of dozens of similar threads clogging and polluting this board.

Also, please sticky it, mods.

>but AAAAAAAANON, why is it called /creation general/, doesn't it gives support to one side?

No, every Christian, both evolutionist and creationist, believes that God made everything…unless you dont believe in that…wait, what are you doing here?

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Christchan Thread

Post your favorite/rare Christchans. Im also going to be posting a few that need to be colored in, if anybody want to do that.

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Christian professor getting abused for what he wrote in 2015

Dear Christian,

There is a professor at my department who is getting piled up on by the usual suspects for what he wrote in his blog. This makes me very sad and I really don't know what I can do. I do not have the force to stand up against the tyrants and any pushback would probably cause my head to be chopped off and my life ruined. I wanted to bring this to your attention because the poor dude needs help.

Here is his blog post:

http://www.wall.org/~aron/blog/reflections-on-gay-marriage/

http://archive.is/1xkvE

Some news stories:

https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/aron-wall-cambridge-university-gay-14869261

http://archive.is/dMi2I

https://www.varsity.co.uk/news/15922

http://archive.is/gkBpb

The SJW response:

https://www.cusu.co.uk/articles/cusu-statement-on-the-hiring-of-dr-aron-wall

http://archive.is/fHnNn

What really annoyed me was that a certain person wrote an email to everyone in the department as a veiled threat to not oppose the gay mafia. I have dox on him but I didn't know if posting it would be sinful so I refrained. What can I do in the face of this evil?

Please help!

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So were the pagan "gods" actual demons larping as gods or were they just statues?

What role did Satan and his fallen angels play within pagan religions?

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Why isn't 1 Enoch canon in most churches?

It has the clearest prediction of Jesus I've ever seen, and it was written HUNDREDS of years before Jesus was even born.

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Is it lawful to be Christian and into bodybuilding? I enjoy working out and I'm thinking of packing on some serious size now.

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What even is Christianity?

Everytime I try to understand Christianity, the answer I always get is something like "Jesus came to die to atone for our sins so that we may be granted forgiveness and eternal life". Okay fine. So what's with all the other stuff? The Sermon of the Mount, the Beatitudes, the Miracles, the Church, the Bible etc. Isn't all of that just completely redundant?

Like, how would you actually describe Jesus' mission? Can it be explained so that all the stuff I mentioned fits together in a coherent way?

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Post childhood /christian/ Kino

All Dogs Go to Haven

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Eucharistic Theology

I will preface by saying that I at the very least believe in the Real Presence.

Now, then: Apostolics, explain the theology of the Eucharist to me, because I am uneducated in the specifics of this most important part of Christ's own teachings. Protestants, explain to me (using Biblical sources) what your denomination teaches about the LORD's supper.

I don't even know what to do anymore.

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>30 years ago today

Reminder that this man did nothing wrong.

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What does /christian/ think of the Seventh day Adventists? Is it heresy?

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How come not all IFB churches are like FWBC? I went to an IFB church for a while and they weren't as insane as Pastor Anderson.

Sure they held onto many of the same silly doctrines like KJV onlyism, but the Pastor never got mad and kicked the pulpit or screamed at the congregation. He always just gave his sermon to us and some people would shout "amen" every now and again but he never did hard preaching like Anderson does. Also, the IFB church I went to held to the rapture doctrine but doesn't Pastor Anderson hate that doctrine? Also, the Pastor there allowed for contemporary Evangelical music as long as it was outside of church. The Pastor there didn't believe gays were automatically reprobates either and he believed that if they accepted Jesus into their hearts they would be saved like any one else.

Why is only FWBC crazy?

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I really want to become Orthodox but I can't deal with the priests

I can't deal with the fact that many Orthodox priests have big expensive cars, go on holiday to exotic places, etc.

I have talked with people from other Orthodox countries and I don't think this is unique to mine, it is basically the same in most countries.

I also find those priests quite unfriendly and moralistic. For example recently one priest denied the eucharist to a family member but gave it to his wife (I was very shocked because I know the wife of the priest and she is not exactly a Christian role model)

I really want to believe anons but I can't cope with this corruption. How do you deal with it? Is it because OCA is less corrupt by being in the USA? Is it just a sign this church doesn't accept me?

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How come nobody posted this yet?

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Which is the true Church? I know the Catholic Church is thee Church founded by Christ but at the same time Catholics have such weird practices like veneration of Mary, purgatory and saints etc. Also the Pope's worry me like the popes whp slept with harlots etc. Im very drawn to high church Lutheranism. Please help me

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Can I be honest? Every time I come here I have a deeper desire to leave the RCC and attack all denomination…ALL of them, even the orthos.

This place makes me sad to be a Christian; online banter, don't take it too seriously…and yet, the hatred behind many of those posts is real.

I am a selfish person, egotistical and self-centered; I came back to God to get rid of this infection plaguing my soul, and I started to come here to get some resources and looking for mature debates on the subject; instead of helping, many of the things I saw here hollowed me. many of you guys are admirable, but there are plenty of posts and posters who make me feel a desire to turn away from God, and I almost sense a sort of "shame" for being a fallen man who tries to follow the Christ.

Give me one reason not to reject my faith and turn into a lukewarm "Christian" in name only person…because right now all I want is to just dump it all, quit going to mass and honestly pursue something completely against the Christian faith.

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How do we go about overturning abortion laws in civilized countries? Is it too late?

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Are there churches that aren’t feminized

Or even ones where women aren’t allowed to speak? Any type of Christianity.

I’m at catholic university sponsored by Franciscan sisters. They have a “spirituality center” that hosts feminist catholic speakers. Some of the nuns seem pro choice, but not all. They are for open borders. The school had a transgender day, and is hosting a talk on “Healthy at any size” AKA fat pride. They are building gender neutral bathrooms specifically for liberal reasons. We’re going to hire minority professors just because they’re minorities. We have a gay pride club.

We’re running out of money and students though so we’ll probably close in the near future.

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Orthodox/Eastern Catholic Prosphora actually looks really good. I've only ever had western wafers.

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What does /christian/ think of Jehovah's Witnesses?

Heretics? Also what's their family life like?

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If Protestants believe in Sola Scriptura, why do many denominations tolerate LGBT, etc.

I think we all know from countless passages from the Bible that homosexual acts are a sin. Yet many Churches have gone as far as ordaining homosexuals who engage in homosexual acts, ordaining women, marrying homosexuals, etc. etc.

Is the Bible not clear enough for them? Or are they not Christian anymore?

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Machiavellian Christian

Is it possible to follow (most of) the 48 Laws of Power without giving up your soul and losing Christ in the process? I have places i want to be, things i want to do, but there is no way to get there without following some of these rules. Whats hard about this is that i don't want to lose the God i love for the sake of temporal power, but it would be ideal and help more than just myself if i got where i need to be.

I want to gain part of the pie without losing my soul, if you catch my drift.

So /christian/, is it possible?

(embed related)

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Pope fears for Christian presence in Mideast…

Churches have been damaged or destroyed, and large numbers of Christians have been murdered or abducted.

http://archive.today/2018.07.08-090110/http://www.france24.com/en/20180707-pope-fears-christian-presence-mideast-0

BARI (ITALY) (AFP) - Pope Francis on Saturday voiced concern that Christians will disappear from the Middle East amid "murderous indifference," as church leaders from Syria and Lebanon called on Western states to help return Syrian refugees. The Argentine Pope was addressing the leaders of almost all the Middle Eastern churches gathered in the port city of Bari to pray for peace in the region. "The Middle East has become a land of people who leave their own lands behind," Francis said. "There is also the danger that the presence of our brothers and sisters in the faith will disappear, disfiguring the very face of the region. "Indifference kills, and we desire to lift up our voices in opposition to this murderous indifference."

Lebanese cardinal Bechara Rai, the patriarch of the Maronite Church, said governments should from now on encourage Syrian refugees to return to their country, because "bombings are extremely localised". States must "financially help people driven from their lands to repair their homes," he said, instead of "repeatedly saying that there is no peace". More than 350,000 people have been killed since Syria's brutal civil war began in 2011, with millions more displaced. Lebanon, a country of cultural and religious diversity, has taken in some 1.75 million refugees. On Saturday, a ceasefire deal in the south between the government and rebels allowed thousands of displaced Syrians to return home. The accord follows a string of similar deals with rebels for other areas of Syria, Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitoring group said.

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How to deal with lying friend?

I find myself in quite a predicament. I was invited to a party during which the host and friend got quite drunk. There were a lot of people and I wasn't with him the whole time. At some point in the night he started to brag to a couple of guys and myself about some "feats" of the evening. Most of them were ok except one. He told us that "[he] winnie the poohed a girl this evening". Now the major problem is that he has a girlfriend and she was not at the party.

Why am I posting this here? First of all he is orthodox (I'm fighting as hard as possible not to put quotes around it), goes to church from time to time, has orthodox relatives. His girlfriend is orthodox, quite pious.

Now I do not know what to do. This is I think the second time this friend cheats. I'm also resisting the urge of writing "friend". He has this habit of exploiting people to satisfy his personal needs. And I have the feeling he told us this so that it is less of a burden for him and so that we are complicit to his fault. I believe that all the previous things I mentioned about him are only masks. I don't know why he wears them, but I have seen glimpses of good in him.

I haven't seen the girlfriend since, but I know I will at some point, and to be honest I'm not even sure if me seeing her matters. He was cheated on by someone who doesn't show an ounce of regret; I feel like she should now. She seems like a nice person, not deserving any of this.

So I guess my question is what should I do? Each time I will see her, I will essentially be lying to her. In addition to the fact that she's being lied to by her boyfriend.

I'd appreciate any advise.

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What do you think of...

Greetings, friends. What do you think of the New American Bible?

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The Narrow Road

Luke 13:23-24

23 Someone asked him, “Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?” He said to them, 24 “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.

>because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.

>will try

Who is God talking about here?

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Is the Orthodox church really unchanged?

Is it true the Orthodox church hasn't gone through any doctrinal revisions? I often read that 'Orthodoxy is Catholicism without additions'. As I understand they changed their views on contraception and divorce (correct me if I'm wrong).

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Is genetic engineering a a sin? Should be done about the future human animal hybrids if they are not around already?

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Paganism

I think i know how to remove the nazi high ground that pagans have against Christians.

Satanism is also Jewish influenced, and it's very clear that Paganism has satanic elements in it, just listening to the introduction of paganism on Varg's channel it's clear that spell casting, taking the identity of the dead and other mystical practices are blatantly satanic. So if you have any information specifically on how Judaism connects to satanism that then connects to heathery paganism, i would really appreciate it. I need a convincing enough argument point to show that just because pagans have no physical Jews in their belief it doesn't mean they're not full of jewelry.

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On the Sabbath

Are there any Scriptural verses that prove that celebrating the Sabbath exclusively on Saturday is not required? (Sabbath is Saturday in many latin languages). I've heard that some Commandments (9 of them, apparently) were abrograted…which ones were these?

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Did God make me autistic and why?

Serious question. I cannot relate to other people. I am autistic, detail oriented, and have a high IQ. I have tried everything in life to relate to other people, including sinful things that I regret, but I only did them because I thought I was so abnormal, and maybe if I tried this sinful thing that others are engaging in, I will not feel like I’m on the brink of insanity all the time.

I have a talent for art. Not fan art or anything like that. Real, original art. Ive been basing it off dreams. I am thinking this is what God wants me to do and why I am so weird.

I feel so lonely, though. I wish I had a terminal illness to take me out of my misery, but then I feel guilty for thinking this. I’m struggling.

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OSAS: Is it the truth?

I've been really struggling with this doctrine. I'm new to the faith and so am not well versed on the Bible and was wondering, would anyone here be able to present their view on this subject and why they hold it?

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i want to surrender my life to God wholly, how do i do that?

I have already prayed to God telling him that I am ready to live my life for him wholly. Beyond doing this, how else will I know what God's plan for me is? I am currently a junior in college but I am ready to drop out and join a monastery if that is what God's plan is for me. I am non denominational btw so I dont know if there are monasteries for that or if I'd have to convert to catholic or something.

I am ready to give up everything to follow God now. How do I get started?

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The primacy of the pope

A thread about the historical facts related to the primacy of the pope of Rome. What interpretation was given to the notion of primacy in different times and places.

In the thread >>670097 I've had a discussion with a Catholic guy regarding the primacy of the pope. I was very demanding "Give me citations in support of this or that, or else your claims are void". And I was given more than what I expected. So it was my turn to do my homework. As always, it was a pleasure to read the works of the cited saints. I learned a lot of things I didn't know before. For this I am very grateful.

I decided to post my responce in a separate thread because there is so much more to learn. A thread where we are not going to debate whether the Catholic doctrine is correct but a place where we can learn a little history and (maybe) a little more about each other.

EASTERN AND WESTERN MENTALITY

What rights does the pope have? It is hard to write about this. I have the feeling that whatever I write I am going to be misunderstood because the Eastern and the Western mentalities are so different. Even when we use identical words we can not be sure that we are talking about the same thing.

The Western mind is analytic, it wants to explain everything and to reduce everything to some simple rules. This is why we can find the legalistic approach everywhere in the Catholic theology. This is also the source of scholasticism, so incompatible with the Eastern theological approach.

The Western mind does a good job in the science. But science is never static, the science makes new discoveries and revises old theories all the time. How can the Western mind do theology? It seems it has only two choices:

– to develop opposing theological theories and then to revise them all the time. This is the approach of the protestants.

– to settle the differences by some supernatural "source of truth". This is the approach of the catholics.

The Eastern approach in theology is different. The mind there is not permitted to "invent" the truth because the truth is a gift we get. The truth is not a product of the mind; the words we use in order to describe the truth, however, are. In this way, in the Eastern theology the mind is useful and important, it is not, however, permitted to go astray.

Even the most learned theologian can not be more respected teacher in the Orthodox Church, than a simple unlearned old man, whose deeds show the grace of God. The Orthodox preach about the Good News is not in wisdom of words. It is foolishness to those who are dying, but to us who are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, I will bring the research of the researchers to nothing." Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the rhetorician of this world? Hasn't God made foolish the wisdom of this world? God chose people who are not wise (according to the flesh), not mighty and not noble. God chose the foolish things of the world so that he might put to shame those who are wise. God chose the weak things of the world, so that he might put to shame the things that are strong. And God chose the lowly things of the world, and the things that are despised, and the things that are nothing, so that he might bring to nothing the things that are something. But to us, who are in Christ Jesus, He was made to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption: that, according as it is written, "He who boasts, let him boast with the Lord."

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Hell

How can someone watch this and not be terrified? Hell is real and we must do everything in our power not to end up there

https://youtu.be/TvieFJhJFK0

>Padre Pio was asked what he thought about modern people who didn’t believe in hell.

>“They’ll believe in hell when they get there.” he replied.

>"I, Sister Faustina Kowalska, by the order of God, have visited the Abysses of Hell so that I might tell souls about it and testify to its existence…the devils were full of hatred for me, but they had to obey me at the command of God, What I have written is but a pale shadow of the things I saw. But I noticed one thing: That most of the souls there are those who disbelieved that there is a hell."

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What makes you thankful to God?

I was thinking, we have threads discussing the different sects of Christianity, or the different traditions of those sects, but I don't feel like we talk about what makes us stop and go 'thank you, God, for this thing I enjoy.'

I thank God for helping me slowly turn my life around and giving me the courage to improve myself, if only in baby steps. I thank Him for giving me a second chance, although some days I wonder if I'm doing enough. I also thank Him for giving me a new perspective on family, granting me patience so I can help them.

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Bible doctrine = roman imperialism?

>"Now Judas had heard of the fame of the Romanes, that they were mighty and valiant men, and such as would lovingly accept all that joyned themselves unto them, and make a league of amitie with all that came unto them,

>2 And that they were men of great valour:

>It was told him also of their warres and noble acts which they had done amongst the Galatians, and how they had conquered them, and brought them under tribute.

>3 And what they had done in þe countrey of Spaine, for the winning of the mines of the silver & gold which is there

>4 And that by their policie and patience, they had conquered all that place (though it were very farre from them) and the kings also that came against them from the uttermost part of the earth, till they had discomfited them, & given them a great o'erthrow, so that the rest did give them tribute every yere.

>5 Besides this, how they had discomfited in battell Philip, and Perseus king of the Citims, with others that lift up themselves against them, and had o'ercome them.

>6 How also Antiochus the great king of Asia that came against them in battaile, having an hundred and twentie Elephants with horsemen and chariots, and a very great armie, was discomfited by them.

>7 And how they tooke him alive, and covenanted that hee and such as reigned after him, should pay a great tribute, and give hostages, and that which was agreed upon,

>8 And the country of India, and Media, and Lidia, and of the goodliest countries: which they tooke of him, and gave to king Eumenes.

>9 Moreo'er how the Grecians had determined to come and destroy them.

>10 And that they having knowledge thereof sent against them a certaine captaine, and fighting with them slew many of them, and caried away captives, their wives, and their children, and spoiled them, and tooke possession of their lands, and pulled downe their strong holds, and brought them to be their servants unto this day.

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Jesus confirmed on halfchan

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Divorce

>"But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery."

>Matthew 5:32

Is divorce permitted in certain circumstances, and if so, is remarriage permissible on grounds of oikonomia?

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Can I "pray the gay away"?

So, I'm a 19 year old boy who was solely attracted to girls, but has developed an attraction to femboys after years of viewing pornography. Is it possible for myself to be rid of homolust through prayer (and/or other spiritual means) or is it now a new form of lust that I must struggle with?

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Can one be Christian and far-right? Is it possible? Is it necessary?

I can't imagine someone being a centrist or leftist and Christian without falling into internal contradictions.

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Kierkegaard thread

I'll here post the complete works of Soren Kierkegaard.

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Do two perversions make a rightiousness?

So marrying your own gender is an obvious no-no in christianity, and your gender is set in stone when you are born. What happens to couples who are MTF trannies + women, or FTM + men? Both people obviously have a perversion, but assuming they are married they never commit fornication with the wrong gender, unless you beleive god actually does make people transgender.

Is this the solution to homos that don’t want to go celibate, but still want children/some faith? Just set them up with trannies?

pic unrelated.

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Romans 1:26?

I am the sort of christian that strongly believe male homosexualism is a Sin, and I heavily distrust pro-LBGT sources.

still, one thing I found is that the bible has zero mentions to lesbianism or female bisexualism, with one possible exception, that is Romans 1:26, that I also often see interpreted to mean anal sex or oral sex being sinful.

So… can someone explain to me what Romans 1:26 is really about?

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Nimrod

Why is there so much research done on this guy when he's hardly mentioned in the Bible?

Who is he and what's so big about him?

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Why is necromancy a sin?

Why was it specified? Also, If its about demons, why doesn't bible specifically mention that summoners are in contact with demons instead of the dead?

>inb4 le ecclesiastes "dead know nothing" meme

no, context is different

>inb4 hafizposter comes

hafiztard replies do not apply

Orthodox and Catholic replies would be appreciated

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Is it wrong to listen to Death Grips? Their music makes a lot of references to satan, the beast, the occult, death, and hedonism. What does /christian/ think of them?

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Coming back to the faith after entering the occult

For about seven years of my life, I was involved with Hermeticism and western Qabalah (which is Kabbalah, but with pagan elements replacing the Jewish ones).

I studied tarot, astrology and ritual religiously and got rather good at doing all three. In the end, though, I always found myself unsatisfied. I was making friends by reading their futures, both in the stars and cards. My ego had grown larger than my apartment, but I had stagnated spiritually to the point where I sank into a deep depression.

Nothing could pull me out of the funk I was in, which seemed to overlap in every part of my life.

Long story short, I came back to the faith after years and years of going in circles. Though my family is Presbyterian, I'm thinking about converting to Catholicism due to the fact that I need discipline and have come to the conclusion that it is, in fact, the one true Church that was set up by Christ.

Anyhow, I guess this could be a thread about coming back to the faith after stepping away and how we reignited our passions for Christ.

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Christian Music General

Post your based Christian music

And none of that stupid medieval chants

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Found my dad's porn stash. Should I light it on fire?

file unrelated

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What is the form of economics a Christian should support? I have been looking into Corporatism because it was promoted by the Catholics, but I am open to other ideas.

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How do you persuade muslims/unitarians that God becoming finite/human is logically possible.

I had a talk that went like this:

Muslim said something: 'If Christ incarnated in the "fullness of God" then the effect of his birth would have been the instantaneous reduction of the universe to ashes, because the finite world can never fully accommodate the infinite One, only partially." I said that Christ humbled himself and became meek, so creation could contain him, and he kept saying "but was he fully God?" And I said yes, then he said but God is unbegotten while Christ is begotten. How can God be both begotten and unbegotten? How can the finite realm fully contain the infinite One?

Please educate me or tell me which theologians deal with this issue.

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>be christian

>lucky to even have vanilla sex

>be secular

>all kinds of fun sex like bdsm, etc

With all things considered, is it fair to say some people just aren't made to be christian?

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Latin Mass Discussion

Since the Traditionalist General got locked, can we get a thread discussion the Traditional Latin Mass and liturgical practices before Vatican II?

Note: No Baptists allowed like in the last thread.

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Daily reminder that idolatry, abortion, and homosexuality are by far the worst sins that anyone can commit.

Idolatry because it's complete rejection of God and blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (atheism counts as idolatry because it's worship of self) and thus it is the unforgivable sin.

Abortion because it's the murder of the most innocent among us as well as an attempt to make oneself God by trying to control nature itself and thwart God's plan for a particular person by not even allowing that person to be born into the world.

Homosexuality because it is a sin against all of nature, especially that of your own body which is intended to be holy, as well as exalting oneself above God by declaring your ways to be right and God's intended purpose for life to be wrong.

Any baptized person among us who has fallen into such things ought to be assigned to live a life of strict strict penance day and night until the day of their inevitable deaths.

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Are Owls demonic in some way? Are they linked to something occult?

I'm starting to think so. I'm an orthodox russian christian who refuses to even read about the enemy so I don't know about the invisible world only the word of the TRUE God Jesus Christ hallowed be his name above all names. I know that in my heart of hearts that God protects me always but I'm starting to see owls wherever I go. I'm starting to worry as they seem to follow me with those large eyes…those haunting small beaks…I've done no communing with the invisible world but I am a Truth seeker above all other things and what I seek is the truth. so please, I ask, help a fellow out

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Lets talk about the degeneracy of tattoos

I feel like an increasing amount of young people are getting tattoos due to trends from instagram and pinterest in the pursuit of staying cool. This concerns me because I HATE the look of tattoos. For me tattoos look degenerate, tacky, and express mental illness/criminality. I know there are good people with tattoos but for me tattoos will always remain a sign of someone sleezy or a criminal just like how the Japanese view it.

Unfortunately, even many women today are getting stupid tattoos like cursive writing or small objects on their wrist. I'm concerned with potential marriage material because I don't think I could ever marry a girl who has a permanent sin on her body, even if it can be forgiven by God. This trend even affects our churches, with many men sporting tattoos and claiming that "the one commandment from the old testament is misunderstood by modern translators so it doesn't apply to us" or "we live by grace not law, the old testament no longer applies".

So what do you guys think? Am i a massive prude who needs to get with the times or am i right that tattoos are tacky and degenerate (which speaks of the character of those who get them)?

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woke

Scientists study the sex-lives of 2 traditional tribes in africa, they find:

>couples were between ages 18-45

>they had sex on average 3 times per night

>the men orgasmed each time, the women at least once, they found sex pleasurable but its primary factor is procreation

>"if I do not do it five times per night my wife will not be happy, because she wants children quickly." one man said

>When asked about homosexuality or masturbation they found it difficult to understand these concepts and had no words for them. "They laughed as we tried to describe the mechanics behind the sexual activities and struggled to understand the purpose"

>they have no words for homosexuality or masturbation

>struggled to understand the concepts

tfw pagan tribes in africa have better mental health and sexual practices enlightened humanists in the West.

http://jambo.africa.kyoto-u.ac.jp/kiroku/asm_normal/abstracts/pdf/31-3/107-125.pdf

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Pistol-packing padres: Nearly 250 priests in Philippines seek gun-carry permits

https://www.rt.com/news/430464-philippines-priests-guns-permit/

>More than 250 religious leaders in the Philippines want permits to carry guns amid a surge in the killings of priests. Top Catholic officials, however, urge the clergy to be ready to “face death and danger” without packing heat.

>“We have received 246 requests for Permits to Carry Firearms Outside of Residence from 188 priests and 58 ministers, preachers and pastors,” Philippines National Police

>The official said he supported the idea of arming the religious as long as they were qualified to hold a gun license. Albayalde said the police were ready to provide necessary training to the priests, seeking to improve their “marksmanship” skills.

>Not all the applications have been assessed yet, the police chief said, and it remains unclear whether all of those who applied for licenses received death threats.

>The Philippines has seen a surge in violence against religious figures recently, with three Catholic priests slain over the past six months. The latest victim, Fr Richmond Nilo, was gunned down on June 10 inside a chapel in the town of Zaragoza while preparing to say Mass. At least six persons are suspected of his murder, one of them has been arrested.

>It remains unclear whether the applications for gun-carrying licenses surged in the wake of the recent killings, the PNP chief said, adding that this apparently obvious correlation had to be checked “further.”

Here's the part that irks the hell out of me.

>While the low-tier religious leaders seem to be eager to protect themselves, the country’s Catholic hierarchy is skeptical about arming the priests, insisting that they are supposed to be men of peace and should “face death” bare-handed.

>“I would strongly oppose arming the priest. We are men of God, men of the church and it is part of our ministry to face danger, to face death,” Davao Archbishop Romulo Valles said, as quoted by the Manila Standard.

Why are modern Christians so winnie the pooh pathetic? I read shit like this and it makes me cringe so hard I end up with a aneurysm. What do you guys think about it?

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Why hasn't gone destroyed our society?

Like in Sodom?

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/christian/ Anime Thread

Degenerate /leftypol/ infiltrators are not welcome.

I'll open up with a great recommendation: namely the Dog of Flanders. It's a wholesome movie set in a Catholic Europe and is about the life of a young boy and his dog. It's a movie about friendship and is sure to tug the heartstrings of most people. I give it a /christian/ out of ten.

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Race Discussion Containment Thread

Post any and all discussion about race and how it relates to Christianity in this thread instead of clogging up the catalog with thread after thread of "kill all nonwhites" or "who cares about race? we're all the same on the inside, maaaaaaaan."

And let me give you a little bit of advice: Literally all racial problems going on in the world today are side effects of Enlightenment and Post-Enlightenment philosophies and their ideas of freedom, individualism and equality. Stop trying to treat the symptoms and treat the disease itself.

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Daily reminder that John Wycliffe did nothing wrong

https://christianhistoryinstitute.org/magazine/article/john-wycliffe-and-the-dawn-of-the-reformation

>This constituted the third area of doctrine in which Wycliffe clashed with the traditional teaching of the Church. It is to be observed that, influenced as he was earlier in his career by the import of Scripture, it was not until the twilight of his career that he came to a fully developed position on the authority of the Scriptures. He declared the right of every Christian to know the Bible, and that the Bible emphasized the need of every Christian to see the importance of Christ alone as the sufficient way of salvation, without the aid of pilgrimages, works and the Mass.

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Smashing Idols.

>"But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire." - Deuteronomy 7:5

My sister, who was raised a strict Baptist like me, has now become Hindu. I am beyond furious and so is my family. But now it makes sense though why she decided not to go to church with us for Easter and Christmas this year and why she hasn't invited us over to her apartment in a long time. Sneaky Paganess!

My father told me she has over a dozen idols of false gods like Krishna or whatever the hell and other Hindu demons and even has a small altar to conduct rituals on. I want to be the real man her and smash her idols which neither see nor hear nor eat nor smell when I go over to her apartment tomorrow. What's the best course of action here?

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Many of you on this board are lukewarm heretics(yes you too mods)

I cant believe how many of you commit sin by taking your memes too far. For example, how many memes have I seen that are supposed to be "anti heresy" but how come in those the saints are presented cursing and saying swearwords which refer to the most obscene things, such as sexual intercourse etc.

I have also seen memes where the Most Blessed Virgin Mary is presented as an anime character. I have even seen pictures where our LORD JESUS CHRIST is outright blasphemed by presenting Him as some funky meme persona(including on the board banners).

I dont understand how you people think this is somehow okay. There is no doubt about it, you lack fear of God and youre committing sin when you engage in this sort of memeing. The faith is not a joke, not even in 2018 ANNO DOMINI.

PS: nothing wrong with memes, but I personally wont meme at the expense of the saints and martyrs or God forbid with the Blessed Name of our Lord

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Are Quakers Christians? Is it ok to go to a Quaker meeting house?

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Is there any debate where a Protestant wins over a catholic andis there a debate where a Catholic wins ocer a Protestant?

Wanna get a more centrist view

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Sorry KJV heretics

The Douay–Rheims is the only correct Bible version. All other versions are Satanic and corrupted by heretical Protestants, including the heretical KJV that was commissioned by a bisexual Satanic monarch.

The Latin Vulgate was inspired by God himself and the Douay-Rheims is the only faithful translation, uncorrupted by Satan, and is thus the only inspired English text of the Bible. All other versions are blasphemous and heretical. The translators of the Douay-Rheims were inspired by God. It is the only true Bible in English and all Bible versions in any other languages ought to be based off of it for its complete perfection and inspiration. Let's burn the blasphemous KJV now.

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So which boards do you think is friends of /christian/? where did you had a good experience be it on 4chan or 8chan? For me, it was /tg/: asides from few fedoras, they are a nice and erudite bunch, there are many Christians there and I think that we have fa/tg/uys on this board too.

What do other anons think? Which boards qualify as such?

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Phillipine Christians Apologize to LGBTQ

Welp…the Philippines seem doomed:

http://archive.fo/KOuUC

>A gay pride parade in Manila, Philippines, gained attention on Twitter this week after pictures were posted of a Christian group marching in the parade holding a banner reading, “I'm Sorry.”

>The Filipino group Church of Freedom in Christ Ministries (FICM) told BuzzFeed News that it's been attending Pride parades for the past four years as part of its “I'm Sorry” campaign.

>The campaign is meant to apologize to those in the LGBT community who have been marginalized based on Christian teachings.

>The banner held by the church members also read, “We're here to apologize for the ways that we as Christians have harmed the LGBT community.”

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Protestant gf

Hey Christanons, I would like some relationship advice.

I’m 21, my GF is 20, we’ve been together for almost 2 years. Right after we started dating, my mother passed, she has always been there for me, she has never let me down. She really helped me get my life back together.

We like the same things like anime and games, we also both attend the same college, different degrees, but come from different backgrounds; I’m Catholic, while she is Protestant “raised”.

Whenever we talk about things, be it hobbies or anything, she’s very happy to talk about it, just not my personal beliefs or politics, because when I talk about them I am “very condescending”, supposedly I act like I’m schooling her. Thus, she avoids all topics to do with my beliefs.

For example, very recently, Ireland’s Abortion vote, and its outcome. I made my views very clear on it, I told her: “it’s murder, it’s against God, it’s satanic and that people think it’s okay because they have been indoctrinated into believing so”, not in such a blunt way of course.

She voices her opinions, how it should be a choice and how it is not my choice. If I try to rebuttal her, she unfortunately has enough of it and voices her displeasure in the current state of things, how she Is not with me for my political views, and how she does not want to me to mention it again.

So what I want to know Christanons is, how should I approach her when trying to show her that abortion is not right, that some of her beliefs are fundamentally wrong. How should I present to her my perspective without sounding condescending or like I’m “schooling”.

Image related, how I feel inside when I talk to her about what I believe in.

Also, please pray for me.

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When do we take care of these enemies of Christ?

This degeneracy is spreading and infesting every where you look. You can lose your job or career for even speaking the truth about this. Seriously there are even game servers where you can be banned for simply calling out faggotry when you see it. What do?

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Let's settle this once and for all.

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>Pope Francis is urging governments to make good on their commitments to curb climate change, warning that continued unsustainable development and rampant consumption threaten to turn the Earth into a vast pile of “rubble, deserts and refuse.”

>Francis made the appeal Friday at a Vatican conference marking the third anniversary of his landmark environmental encyclical "Praise Be." The document, meant to spur action at the 2015 Paris climate conference, called for a paradigm change in humanity's relationship with Mother Nature. "“Praise be to you, my Lord, through our Sister, Mother Earth," (LAUDATO SI)

>In his remarks, Francis urged governments to honor their Paris commitments and said institutions like the IMF and World Bank had important roles to play in encouraging reforms promoting sustainable development.

>IMF

>WORLD BANK

>play important roles in promoting sustainable development

>He warned: “There is a real danger that we will leave future generations only rubble, deserts and refuse.”

Glad to see he's finally tackling the BIG ISSUES, the stuff people really need to hear and learn about and propagate.

How should we as individuals fight for this important Global Cause? It's really the most urgent issue of our times, people have to understand how important the IMF and World Bank are at promoting sustainable development and how important Mother Earth is for everyone, specially refugees. Build Bridges. Turn your lights off. Support Green Initiatives. It's time to make some REAL progress.

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2018/07/06/world/europe/ap-eu-rel-vatican-environment.html

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Gosh I'm feeling nihilistic and agnostic.

How about a nihilism/atheist/pagan/jew hate thread?

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Genuinely upset about all the different theology I've been reading. Tons of accusations of idolatry and heresy. How am I supposed to find the right church through the crap? Will the Lord have mercy on me if I choose wrong?

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Pocket Bibles

Any place where I can buy pocket bibles besides New Testament, Psalms, and Proverbs? I'm almost done with the NT again and would like pocket versions of the OT.

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Understanding st. Thomas

How much do I need to know to fully understand Summa Theologiae? I know that Christian theology bases itself in Greek philosophy, but do I have to read all works of Plato and Aristotle from cover to cover, or is there a list of concepts that I need to wrap my mind around?

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Have anyone on /christian/ had any runs in with the paranormal? What are you suppose to do during an demonic encounter?

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Against Pews and their Lies

>go to friend's church

>pews everywhere

>not even 1 head covering

>girls in flip-flops, guys in dirty shoes

>Priest was slightly effeminate

This was horrible, I'm not even gonna say the church because it doesn't matter.

Pews do not belong in church (except in the back for the disabled/elderly/pregnant). How am I supposed to bow, prostrate or kneel when I'm surrounded by pews??

Sitting down lowers your energy levels, standing up awakens you. We are in the presence of God, we should either stand or bow, not sit down as if we're watching a movie.

Also I can't understand how people walk in church with their dirty shoes or sandals, this feels so unnatural to me. '"Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground."'

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Why are antitheists so fucking annoying?

They're everywhere around here and always use the same tired rationalism and the burden of proof and shove it your face constantly. Worse than simple atheists. How should they be dealt with?

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Orthodox Fail

Finally, I found what I was looking for about your so-called holy fire. A man who was willing to debunk it using Christian doctrine and the results are unsurprising. Though he's an atheist, he makes a smart analysis that it cannot be a miracle on the basis of the theology of miracles, something I'm not familiar with. Also Orthodox clerics contradict each other wildly with regards to this topic.

The core claim of the theological argument is John 20:29; "blessed are those who have not seen and yet believed." That faith ought to be by free will and not imposed upon people, or else it is worthless in the eyes of the Creator. Jesus even said that miracles are the product of faith when He healed the Centurion's servant, this is contrary to the Holy Fire fable, where the miracle happens repeatedly, on the same day, regardless of the attendees.

Frankly, I want to know why you haven't abolished something so clearly heretical and/or blasphemous. Is it something about your church hierarchy which allows all the charismatic nuts to freely roam and prey on believers?

https://onthewaytoithaca.wordpress.com/2010/10/19/the-holy-light-of-jerusalem-debunked/#contents18

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Anglican Church of North America, Catholic, or Orthodox? I can't decide.

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Do Christian RPG games exist?

What Christian games exist?

I'm new to 8ch and see lots of advertisements for a game that objectifies women for "milk" and encourages shitty behavior through shitty dialog.

Is there any thoughtful game with high EQ that promotes healthy conversations? .. responses? .. outcomes?

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Amy Coney Barret

I'm following the supreme court happenings and it seems that one Amy Coney Barret might end up becoming a supreme court judge. She's Catholic, which made me hopeful at first, but then I read that she's part of a cult-like charismatic group called People of Praise. They're apparently an ecumenical group that accepts members from any Christian denomination, who supposedly pledge loyalty to the group. This honestly sounds very disturbing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_of_Praise

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Traditional Catholicism General

EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS

ITT: We discuss the Latin Mass, Traditional Catholic Devotions, Pre-Vatican II Catholicism, Douay-Rheims Onlyism, Sedevacantism, Catholic Civilization, and any topic relating to Traditional Catholicism.

Due to the high frequency of shit posting and derailing of threads relating to this kind of topic, NO BAPTISTS ALLOWED. Others groups, such as the Eastern Orthodox, are allowed to participate provided that they are civil and do not attempt to start debates. If a debate does break out and begins to eat up too much of the thread, then please move it to another thread.

>Traditional Catholic Organizations:

https://www.fssp.org/en/

https://sspx.org/en

https://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/

https://www.churchmilitant.com/

>Traditional Catholic Blogs:

http://www.wdtprs.com/

https://trcthoughts.com/

https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/

>Traditional Catholic Homilies and Sermons:

https://www.youtube.com/user/franciscanfriars/videos

https://www.youtube.com/user/JohnHollowel/videos

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEwOuzd7tBgN9fu9GrP5tsw/videos

The Vulgate, along with a faithful English translation of it (Douay-Rheims) can be found here: http://vulgate.org/

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You cannot be racist and be Christian.

Pick one or the other.

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No more PAGANISM

I do not hate non-Christian religions and my only problem is that PAGANOS.

I shit a bunch of religions in a single group Can not you just be Wotanist and reject Hellenism? I'm tired of paganism to identify all those groups

> Muh native European religion

Paganism also enters into African and indigenous religions so do not use that excuse

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Canadian Man Faces 2 Years in Prison for Passing Out Jesus Saves Pamphlets at Gay Pride

>A Christian bus driver in Toronto has been charged with a "hate crime" for distributing pamphlets saying homosexuality can lead to diseases and that Jesus can save gay people if they repent.

>The pamphlets, which reportedly included negative remarks against the Liberal Party and left-wing politicians, also said that supporting homosexual acts without repentance could lead to "eternal peril," and repentance to "the free gift of eternal life."

>Whatcott, who has been fired from his job, said he wasn't given food for 24 hours while in jail, according to The Daily Wire.

>He said he was also denied medical attention for a leg injury. "I had a leg infection, and it was bad enough that I was brought to the hospital, but they simply refused to fill the prescriptions. So for four days I had no medications. The infection was actually going up my leg. I was a little concerned it was gonna go systemic."

>In July 2016, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, a Roman Catholic, became the world's first national leader to march in a gay pride parade when he took part in Toronto's event.

Pray this dude doesn't get convicted of this nonsense charge.

https://www.christianpost.com/news/canadian-man-faces-2-years-prison-passing-out-jesus-saves-pamphlets-gay-pride-parade-225577/

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Verses proving salvation to anyone that believes and not of works.

Before someone posts James 2 https://youtu.be/dPqSelVJvoA

These are all the verses I found that prove sola fide. If you have more then please add to it. And if you don't believe sola fide then you're welcome to say why a certain verse is wrong but "he meant the opposite of what he said" is not an argument.

John

1:12

3:15-16/18/36

4:14(John 6:35)

5:24

6:28-29/35/38-40/44-45/47

7:38-39

8:24

10:27-29

11:25-27/40

12:46

14:1-3

16:27

20:31

Matthew

5:19

7:21-23(John 6:38-40)

8:10-13

9:2

12:37

21:31-32

Mark

1:15

2:5

10:24-25

16:16

Luke

3:3(Acts 19:4)

5:20

7:48-50

8:12

18:10-14/42

19:42

23:40-43

Acts

2:21

3:19

10:43

11:16-17

13:38-39/48

15:7-9

16:30-31

19:4(Luke 3:3)

26:18

Romans

1:16-17

3:20/22/24-28/30

4:2-14/16/24

5:1/15-18

6:14/23

8:31-33

9:30-33

10:3-4/9-10/13

11:6

1 Corinthians

1:14/17/21

3:14-15

15:1-2

2 Corinthians

4:13-14

1 Thessalonians

4:14

2 Thessalonians

1:10

2:12

Ephesians

1:13-14

2:8-9

4:7

Galatians

2:16/21

3:6-11/14/21-22/24/26

5:3-6

Philippians

3:3/9

Titus

3:5

1 Timothy

1:16

2 Timothy

1:9

3:15

Hebrews

4:3

10:38-39

11:7

1 Peter

1:3-5/8-9

2:6-7

3:21(Colossians 2:12)

1 John

4:2-3/15

5:1/4-5/10-11/13

Revelation

2:11

3:5

21:7

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I am a former Atheist raised Anglican and want to become a Catholic after returning to God. I want to retain some of my heritage and join the Ordinariate of St.Peter but there are 0 parishes in my state. Am I out of luck?

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Serious question, should homosexuals be put to death?

>'You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination. - Leviticus 18:22

>If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. - Leviticus 20:13

>And the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and burned with lust for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them over to reprobate mind to do what ought not to be done… Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them. - Romans 1:27-32

Should homosexuals, who have rejected the Gospel and are confirmed given over into reprobate mind, be put to death by the government? St. John Chrysostom does say that reprobate faggots ought to be stoned

>For I should not only say that you have become a woman, but that you have lost your manhood, and hast neither changed into that nature nor kept that which you had, but you have been a traitor to both of them at once, and deserving both of men and women to be driven out and stoned, as having wronged either sex. - Homily 4 on Romans, St. John Chrysostom (390 A.D.)

So, should faggots be given the death penalty?

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Modern literature and (((deconstruction)))

I hate modern literature, its literally impossible to find a wholesome read that has clearly christian morals. Everything today has to be edgy and every trope deconstructed, as in, good is actually evil and evil actually good, moral relativism, the Devil and his fallen angels are good, God and his angels are evil and similar bullcrap.

Why can't we have any setting where God and His angels are good, and the Devil and his Fallen are evil beings who want to damn people to Hell?

I just want some classic good tales like Chronicles of Narnia, or Lord of the Rings, where there are clearly christian allegories and influence, and where evil is thought of as deplorable.

The ((((people)))) who like to write these subversions of common tales and morals, deconstructing settings and the like, claim that they are only 'subverting the mainstream', but they ARE the mainstream. I literally havent seen a book/comic/cartoon/anime where God, his angels and the Church are good, Heaven is a great place and Lucifer is a monstrous being who hates everyone and thinks he is higher than God,with Hell being an awful place, in a long time.

This leads me to the conclusion that most, if not all sources of entertainment has been claimed by Satan. Tales that were meant to teach people about morality instead teach them to sin.

Compare and contrast Lord of the Rings and Chronicles of Narnia, which were written by godly christian authors, and His Dark Materials, which were written by a disgusting atheist.

This thread is meant to discuss literature and other forms of entertainme in a christian perspective

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Germany Enforces Sharia Blasphemy Laws

Christian/Messianic Terrorism when?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itab8Cc4tg8

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Help??

I'm so lost about my denomination, Right now i'm just a follower of Christ, and i'd identify as a protestant in my beliefs on salvation, and kind of Calvinist on God choosing me, not the other way around. But i'd still like people from different denominations telling me why I should be that in a helpful manner. Or at least have sources to look into them.

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evolution

>finished reading Seraphim Rose

>finished reading Jay Dyer

>gave up Theistic Evolutionism for Theistic Creation

>tfw Genesis takes on a whole new dimension

it was painful! but worth it

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Why do Christians compromise the Bible for the religion of evolutionism, in which there is no proof?

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6-cVj-ZRivqKeqAklhYfFFmmAdvwcnCT

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I love you all

Every Cadolig

Every Ordodog

Every Lutheran

Every Nestorian

Every Andersonite

Every one

The fellowship from this board is amazing.

Praise God.

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Every day the signs are becoming more and more clear, the Antichrist is emerging, here and now, in the generation that Jesus spoke of.

Israel has returned, and the Antichrist is emerging. Soon the Son of Man will come forth and smite the Antichrist, but for us, here and now, we must prepare for what is understood to no longer come in the future, but the near future. Truly, I begin to believe we are but years and months away from the Tribulations.

Here is a video of a ritual being committed, a ritual of ushering the Antichrist at the opening of the Gotthard Base Tunnel, of which many world leaders were in attendance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koQZt019P8g

The end is imminent. Be ready anons, I beg you.

Oh Lord, please forgive me and others of their sins, please keep us strong as we persevere in the faith in these dire days, may you keep us warm when the end has come, and keep us vigilant, so that we may clearly see the signs. Oh Lord, may we be prepared and ready, so that our suffering will be lessened, and may the multitude of believers, however dwindling they are, be strengthened, and convert as many people as they can before the time has come. Thank you Lord, in Jesus' name, amen.

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Thousands of people in Sweden are embedding microchips under their skin to replace ID cards

Sign of the end times. Yes, the technology has been available for years, but people are becoming more acceptable to it and are willing to take the implants.

https://archive.fo/2cW17

>- About 3,000 Swedish people have inserted a microchip into their bodies to make their daily lives easier.

>- People with the implants can wave their hand near a machine to unlock their office or gym, rather than taking out a key card.

>- So-called biohacking is on the rise as more people depend on wearable technology and interconnected devices.

>- Many microchip users are not concerned with hacking or surveillance at this point.

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A Farewell

I won't make this any longer than it needs to be, but I am not an adherent of this faith any longer. I will not lie, I was not the most devout, nor the strongest of faith, nor the most pious in my years as a Catholic, so this should not surprise you given those previous facts.

I'm having a difficult time putting it into words, and I want to remain as respectful as possible since I do still hold this board, and Christians, in high regard, but I suppose the best way to say this is that I simply do not feel it anymore.

To me, it all seems far too convenient to be logical, and all too comforting to be truth. I've come to understand that this world is cruel, and it simply doesn't make sense to me why that would be the case with a loving, caring God at the helm. It simply doesn't make sense for everyone to suffer due to the sins of our ancestors. It's cruelty and wrath.

I can not simply sit back and accredit every good thing that comes my way to be the work of God, while every bad thing goes unchecked (Not to say God wouldn't steer people in the right direction using methods you wouldn't immediately recognize as "Good").

It simply does not make sense.

But!

It is not all bad! At first, it was a very sorrowful time after I came to these realizations, but that does not mean that the time that I spent in faith was wasted, and I don't resent any of it. Despite my realization, it does not mean that there can not be good in the world, as Jesus, whether he be Man or Messiah, shows. Just as this world is cruel, it is also good, and seeing that not just all of the bad in this world was brought upon by men, but the good of it too is a lightening thought.

So, I suppose this is goodbye. I hope all of you be good.

P. S. I am open to discussion on this post, but if you don't want to discuss, I will leave this board as is. Thanks for reading and listening.

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Muslim slaughter of Nigerian Christians

>Babies are being hacked to death. Children kidnapped. Women raped and savaged. Young and old burned alive. Houses destroyed, livestock plundered. Muslim herdsmen are massacring their Christian neighbors while the Nigerian media misreports and the Nigerian government refuses to act. Some even claim the government is complicit in these attacks.

>June 27: "The Christians in Jos live in fear. Last week terrorists targeted several villages just outside Jos. All were well-known as Christian villages. The houses were razed, crops destroyed, and people burned alive. Their charred corpses were heaped in piles of blackened bodies."

>June 28: "Just a few days ago 300 Christians were killed when Muslim terrorists targeted several Christian villages on the outskirts of Jos.

https://www.christianpost.com/voice/president-buhari-please-stop-the-muslim-slaughter-of-nigerian-christians.html

Why isn't the MSM talking about this more?

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In Britain, the Catholic Church has become a social club

In Britain, the Catholic Church has become a social club

>Well over half [of young British Catholics] do not hold traditional Catholic beliefs on God, many believe that Jesus was only human and not the Son of God, and a large number are willing to ignore the Church’s moral teachings.

>Despite this, Complex Catholicism: The Lives and Faith of Young Catholics in England and Wales Today shows a strong increase in regular Mass attendance (at least monthly) from 25 per cent of all respondents in 2009 to 36 per cent in 2017. Irregular Mass attendance (less than monthly) has increased from 59 per cent in 2009 to 75 per cent today.

>The finding that should cause most concern to the Church is that half of the respondents who self-identify as Catholics don’t believe in a personal God. Only 38 per cent hold to the Church’s teaching that God created the world and is involved in what happens to the world now. A further 12 per cent believe He created the world but is not involved in the world today.

>“[They] adhere to the predominant narratives in society, wanting the Church to follow suit”. They are the much larger group.

Source: http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2018/06/12/analysis-rise-in-young-catholics-attending-mass-survey-suggests/

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Oh look…

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Remember 2 months ago that reddit post from a father complaining that his son was a Fundamentalist? How many here were unironically in the same situation as the kid? I'm currently 18, and I converted to Christianity when I was 11 after a neighbor friend of mine took me to church one night. My parents have always been secular, and they still get so triggered every time I explain to them how degenerate faggotry is. They're both the earliest of 30+ boomers, so it's not surprising.

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Christian YouTubers

What YouTubers do you watch? Which YouTubers have the best knowledge of God's Word?

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Why didn’t God send his prophets to multiple regions around the world instead of just focusing on one specific region in the Middle East? I feel like this would have had multiple advantages

>spread the word of God quicker, as it’s been roughly thirty-one centuries since Genesis and about twenty centuries since the gospel and still only a third of the world is Christian

>serve as proof. It would be impossible for people on opposite ends of the earth to conspire to create a false religion

>prevent false faiths from becoming cultural institutions before Christianity arrives, such Hinduism, Buddhism, or Taoism

Universalism/Perennialism kinda solves the issue, but it creates a new issue of God sending contradictory revelations. What gives?

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I sinned horribly and now I want to kill myself

I masturbated to pictures of girls aged between 8-15 years old. They were fully clothed so it was legal but still morally evil. (basically candydoll-tier) I prayed for forgiveness instantly and now I feel really depressed. I've been struggling with this affliction for a few years now. I was jerking off to my usual material when I clicked on a link that redirected me to the images and my morbid sexual appetite took a hold of me.

I'm pretty sure this stems from my childhood. During my formative puberty years I would jerk off to my 2-year-younger-than-me sister daily. This continued from approximately the ages of 13 to the current day. I still sometimes fantasize about when we were both younger and I hate myself for it.

I have essentially allowed myself to turn into a pedophile and I can't stand it. I have prayed for forgiveness and asked the Lord to cleanse me of these horrible intrusive thoughts and desires.

I hope that it isn't too late as I don't want to burn in Hell.

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Begome Easdern Rite Gadolig

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Why weren't Jesus and the Apostles clearer on some stuff? Like, why didn't Jesus just say "all that will try to reform and/or split from the Catholic Church are damned", which would nip non-Apostolics in the bud? Imagine all the problems that could have been avoided. Why didn't Jesus just say "masturbation is wrong"(it's obviously wrong, but I've seen people on THIS VERY BOARD try to argue otherwise and doing extreme mental gymnastics to justify their sins, even when presented with Matthew 5:27-30, just because it doesn't outright say the word "masturbation"), which would destroy all these shitty people who try to twist Scripture to their own lifestyle instead of doing the opposite. I've noticed that humans will try to legalistically twist the Bible as much as they can if the Bible doesn't outright state that "X is a sin, The End".

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Entire paragraphs of trying to jump backwards and try to prove that

>"29 If your right eye makes you [a]stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you [b]to lose one of the parts of your body, [c]than for your whole body to be thrown into [d]hell. 30 If your right hand makes you [e]stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you [f]to lose one of the parts of your body, [g]than for your whole body to go into [h]hell."

somehow does not condemn masturbation.

I am Roman Catholic, and I believe that Jesus is God obviously and that He is infinitely smart. So what's the reason Jesus did not state some things extremely plainly so that no one would be able to twist it? Humans are pure scum and will try to do anything to excuse their sins. Anyone has a theory on that?

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/christian/ RELATIONSHIP GENERAL #6: YELLOW FEVER TIGS PLS GO

THE RESPONSIBILITY IS YOURS

As someone who is quite successful in finding a wife, I seek to help my own sanity by keeping all the boohoo no-gf/waifu lamentations to one thread. You can't complain if you don't give it an honest try as anything is possible with God. I found my very own christ-chan, thank the Lord all the more for it, and seek to help you too.

PRIMER

>Become someone worthy of dating

Self esteem is not the pride of life, as we can't ever love someone else if we can't love ourselves as children and representatives of Christ.

>>>/fit/

In relation to the above, you can't be a slob and expect to attract a 10/10, as its indicative of entitlement and egocentrism as you don't have a right to anyone's affection. A strong body requires a strong mind. Learn what your TDEE is, make a goal weight, learn to love skim milk, and make a fitness plan that includes cardio, goblet squats, and romanian deadlifts two times a week at the absolute minimum. The person who God has for you will appreciate it, encourage it, and join you.

>Be learned and confident in Christian doctrine

Be confident in what the bible says, and what's expected of you. A good marriage minded Christian will quiz you to see if you are legitimate in your beliefs or are just desperate for companionship. Start with the minimum of proverbs, ecclesiastes, and the New Testament. Even at just one chapter a day, this should take you about 10 months to complete.

FUNDAMENTAL CHRISTIAN PHILOSOPHIES

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivity_(philosophy)

We serve the eternal God, who is the very essence of Objectivity by virtue of being the creator who clearly defined the reality in which we live through His intelligent design.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asceticism#Christianity

In this reality, we are called to cast aside, as much as possible, whatever seperates us from worshipping and glorifying our Objective God for our salvation via His Son Jesus Christ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualism

Only Jesus can save us, but no one else is responsible for us as individuals in accepting Him as our Lord and Savior.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honesty

Defined as "fairness and straightforwardness of conduct" and "adherence to the facts." Take an honest assessment of yourself, your desires, faults, and make a plan to reach your desires by minimizing your faults. Reconcile that you will need to be just as honest about what you find to your potential mate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neostoicism

Practicing all of the above will earn us scorn from the lukewarm and heathen alike. We are called as believers to endure the suffering of unjust criticism and the natural difficulties that come with living in a secular world.

INTEL

https://www.christianmingle.com/

>Does it cost money?

free to join, only communicating via the site/app costs money. This can be circumvented somewhat by leaving your full name on your profile and the smart ones will make their cm handle the same as their fb/ig handle.

>Which tier should I get?

3 months tops. You will either find enough suitors to keep you busy, find the one, or you will completely burn out due to lack of success.

https://www.match.com (SECULAR, free to join, claims to have the largest Christian dating pool on the net, proceed with caution and don't answer any of those stupid questions as they will be stalked)

https://www.christiandatingforfree.com (free join/message, qt vault but possible bots)

https://www.catholicmatch.com/ (Mostly for Roman Catholics, maybe you can get away with identifying as "little c"atholic if you aren't a dirty papist.)

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>CHARLOTTE HALL, Md. - The Archdiocese of Washington has issued an apology after a family was kicked out of a funeral in Maryland.

>Video captured the confrontation as it played out at Saint Mary's Catholic Church in Charlotte Hall on Tuesday.

>Hundreds of people showed up to remember Agnes Hicks, but it ended abruptly when someone knocked over and damaged the church's sacred golden cup, also known as a chalice.

>Cellphones recorded the chaotic scene from the church pews as an argument between Pastor Michael Briese and the family carried on as the body of the 54-year-old rested in the open casket nearby.

>A short time later, the family was seen carrying the casket out of the church to leave with shocked attendees and police cars in the parking lot.

>“This was uncalled for and it really hurt me. It really did To see your loved one come there to rest and to be shut down like that,” Larry Hicks, the brother of Agnes Hicks said.

>The family said Agnes Hicks was baptized as a young girl at the church in Charles County and it's where she had always wanted her funeral.

>Her family said the cup was knocked over when someone went in for a hug and accidentally bumped into the chalice near the altar.

>“That's when all hell broke loose. He literally got on the mic and said, ‘there will be no funeral, there will be no mass, no repass, everyone get the hell out of my church,’" Shanice Chisely, the daughter of Agnes Hick recalled. “He disrespected our family, he disrespected my mother. He called my mother 'a thing.' He said, 'get this thing out of my church! Everyone get the hell out of my church!’ It was very sad. I’ve never seen anything like that before.”

>…….

http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/archdiocese-of-washington-apologizes-after-maryland-family-kicked-out-of-funeral

Was it justified?

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Can you tell me a little about unforgivable sins? If in my past I turned people away from God or if I said some nasty things about God am I wrong in assuming I'm just screwed now?

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Post your favorite paintings/icons of the Blessed Virgin, the Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ.

>Hail Mary,

>Full of grace,

>The Lord is with thee;

>Blessed art thou amongst women,

>And blessed is the fruit of thy womb,

>Jesus;

>Holy Mary,

>Mother of God,

>Pray for us sinners,

>Now and at the hour of our death.

>Amen.

>God-bearing Virgin,

>Rejoice,

>Mary full of grace,

>The Lord with thee;

>Blessed art thou amongst women,

>And blessed is the fruit of thy womb,

>For thou hast given birth to the Saviour of our souls.

>Amen.

Blessed Virgin Mary, pray for us. Amen.

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Post your favorite icons/paintings of our Lord and God, Jesus Christ.

Δίδοτε δόξα προς ο θεός, συν προς τον Υιόν αυτού, τον Κυριον και σωτήρ ημών, Ιησούς Χριστος, συν προς τον πνευμάτον αγίον, ὅς ζων και βασιλεύων προς ο Πάτερ Θεός και Υιός νυν και αιώνιος. Αμήν.

Give devotion to your Lord Jesus Christ, for he is our God and savior. He is our master, and we are his servants. Yet he also calls us his friends (John 15:14).

Remember that Jesus is our dear friend who loves us very much. Give all your heart to him. Call upon him as your Lord and bow down to him, confessing his name, and worshiping God the eternal Father through him.

>Lord Jesus Christ,

>Son of God,

>Have mercy on me a sinner.

>Lord Jesus Christ,

>Son of God,

>Have mercy on me a sinner.

>Lord Jesus Christ,

>Son of God,

>Have mercy on me a sinner.

Just like the last thread devoted to our Mother, let us devote this thread specifically to our God and savior whom we worship. You may also post special prayers to Jesus, our God, and anything relating to devotions to Jesus such as to his sacred heart.

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WikiLeaks: 'The Deep State' Forced Conservative Pope Benedict to Resign Benedict replaced by liberal Pope Francis in coup by Clinton, Obama, Soros

>"Benedict, who the Vatican announced would be known by his post-papal title as "Pope Emeritus" shortly after his resignation, was originally a liberal theologian, but adopted conservative views after 1968, with his writings defending traditional Catholic doctrine and values."

>Now evidence has emerged in leaked emails, that Benedict was forced into retirement so he could be replaced with the very liberal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, now known as Pope Francis.

>With the huge influence that the head of the Catholic Church has over the global flock of loyal Christians, the motive behind installing an operative who will "play ball" is clear.

>Soros, Obama and Clinton used the United States’ diplomatic machinery, political muscle, and financial power to coerce, bribe and blackmail “regime change” in the Roman Catholic Church in order to replace the conservative Benedict with the current Pope Francis – who has since become an unlikely mouthpiece for the international left, stunning Catholics around the world.

http://www.neonnettle.com/features/1423-wikileaks-the-deep-state-forced-conservative-pope-benedict-to-resign

We all know how much the democrats hate the Catholic Church given Hillary's leaked emails where she shits on the Church and catholics in general but this new leak is really interesting. Could it be true?

Miss him yet?

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Gamers in light of the Bible

Gamers BTFO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK7EoEfPASI

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Satanist says prayers blocked him from committing acts of evil…

Former Satanist says Christian prayers blocked him from committing acts of evil

https://www.christiantoday.com/article/former-satanist-says-christian-prayers-blocked-him-from-committing-acts-of-evil/129815.htm

A former Satanist has attested to the power of Christian prayers, saying he was prevented from carrying out his evil plans when he encountered a group of intercessors during one of his missions. John Ramirez says that he was raised in a family that was heavily into witchcraft and he had even been referred to by some friends as 'Lucifer's son' because of his participation in satanic rituals that involved animal sacrifice.

After becoming a high priest in a religion called Palo Mayombe, Ramirez soon met a girl who invited her to church and introduced him to her Christian parents. Ramirez started attending the family's church and he eventually turned to Christ during a service. However, he came under numerous spiritual attacks shortly after renouncing witchcraft. Despite the attacks, Ramirez held on to his faith and he now shares the Gospel with others. In his book 'Armed and Dangerous: The Ultimate Battle Plan for Targeting and Defeating the Enemy,' Ramirez shares some advice on how Christians can fight against evil through the power of the Holy Spirit. Ramirez said that he wrote the book so that it Christians can gain insight on how they can apply 'defense' and 'offense' strategies in spiritual warfare.

He explained that Satanism is more powerful when used against Christians who do not pray. He recalled a time when he encountered a group of believers who prayed against him when he was carrying out an assignment prior to his conversion. 'It is those believers, it's that group of people, those intercessors that gave me such a beatdown in the spiritual,' he told CBN News. 'When I came into the neighborhood and they were in the spirit together holding hands. Do I know they were physically holding hands in one area? I don't know, but in the spirit realm, they were holding hands. And, they were able to chase me out the neighborhood,' he added. Ramirez said that he aborted his mission because of the power of the prayers of Christians. He is now encouraging Christians to expand the scope of their prayers, and pray for the schools, the neighborhood and the whole nation. The pastor said that he would not trade what he had gained in Christ for anything in this life. 'For twenty-five years of my life, I was able to do anything to anybody, anywhere,' Ramirez said, as reported by CBN News. 'I count that all to be foolish to gain Christ. He's my Uno. He's the breath that I breathe. He walks with me. I can hear the sound of His voice in my ear,' he added.

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Thinking about becoming an atheist or gnostic again

As much as I love the church traditions, hymns, prayer, and the whole nine yards, I find myself constantly flip flopping internally about the Christian faith. Mainly because so many stories in the Bible seem incredulous to me (two people populating the earth, mana falling from the sky, a world wide flood, etc). I have tried my hardest to believe in those passages, but it seems too ridiculous to me. There’s also the issue of how salvation is dispensed. It seems like people are screwed if a missionary doesn’t get to them in time. It wouldn’t make sense for god to automatically save people who hadn’t heard the gospel because that defeats the purpose of evangelism. But it isn’t consistent for god to say that he wants all men to be saved, and yet doesn’t give all men the resources to get saved.

However, atheism doesn’t benefit me in the sightest. When I embraced atheism, I indulge in the sensual appetite because that’s all there is in life, apparently. And that only turned me into a gross pervert and a glutton. I started liking transsexuals, grannies, and little boys. I also developed a muscle and sub fetish.

I like many aspects of Gnosticism (I.e. reincarnation, pacifism, vegetarianism), but it doesn’t seem like Gnosticism is particularly historic. It came about much later than classical Christianity. Basically, I don’t know what to do now. Maybe I’m being attacked by Satan, but I’m at the end of my rope, spiritually.

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What is wrong with Calvinism?

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Decent Christian Celebs

Mel Gibson + James Caviezel (obvious)

Chris Pratt. (vid related)

James Woods. [He was raised Roman Catholic and stated on September 23, 2015 that he is involved in his faith. He has criticized Pope Francis for tolerating what he called "pro-abortion hospitality"]

Jonathan Jackson. (protestant convert to orthodoxy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5tuzm1A7BY )

Just thought it would be good to see that not all of hollywood is atheistic and subversive. Please add more if you know any.

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Please prove that Jesus is the Messiah, if you do I will convert to Christianity today.

I'm Jewish. Prove to me your Jesus is the Messiah and I will become a Christian.

Isaiah 7:14 is wrongly translated by Christian Bibles. This was due to a mistake by the translators of the Septuagint who wrongly translated the Hebrew "almah" as virgin into Greek when actually the word almah simply means a young woman, not a virgin. Also, read the context of this verse, it's clearly about King Hezekiah not the Messiah.

The servant in Isaiah 53 in not the Messiah it's Israel. Read the context of the chapter.

>"And He said to me, "You are My servant, Israel, about whom I will boast." - Isaiah 49:3

>"But you, Israel My servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham, who loved Me," - Isaiah 41:8

>"For the sake of My servant Jacob, and Israel My chosen one, and I called to you by your name; I surnamed you, yet you have not known Me." - Isaiah 45:4

The criteria for the Messiah:

>1. Be born of the house of David. (Isaiah 11:1)

Jesus was not born of the house of David. Joseph was not his biological father even according to your own scriptures. Therefore he was not the house of David. It is not possible to be adopted into the house of David either, it must be 100% biological. There is no proof Mary was from the house of David. In fact, even if Joseph was his biological father, there is no proof he was from the descended from David either since the New Testament gives contradicting genealogies for Joseph.

>2. Restore Israel. (Jeremiah 33:7)

Jesus did not restore Israel but instead got himself crucified.

>3. Establish peace on earth. (Isaiah 11:6)

The world has been exactly the same since the time of Jesus. It is in no way like the prophesied Messianic age.

>4. Build the Third Temple. (Ezekiel 40-48)

Jesus did not build the Third Temple. He was crucified instead.

>5. Teach everyone the Law so they will know it by heart. (Jeremiah 31:33)

In fact Christians are taught to abhor the Law given to Moses at Sinai and do not follow it at all in accordance with the teachings of Paul. Jesus actually did follow the Law but clearly since Paul corrupted his message and did the complete opposite of Jeremiah 31:33 Jesus did not fulfill this prophecy and thus Jesus cannot be the Messiah.

>6. Establish monotheism worldwide. (Zechariah 8:22)

Christians in fact worship Jesus and the Holy Spirit alongside God. This is not monotheism. The Tanakh nowhere says the Messiah will God and this is a later Christian concept invented when it mixed with Greek philosophy.

Welp Christians, it looks like Jesus isn't the Messiah after all and your religion is a gentile corruption of Judaism. That Jesus rose from the dead and is going to come back to fulfill the prophecies has got to be one of the worst cop outs ever and is nowhere in the Hebrew Bible.

You don't have to convert to Judaism but perhaps become a Noahide. This would suit you best. Unless you have some master proof, please offer it up to me.

Right now, offer it up. I challenge you to prove to me from the Hebrew Bible that Jesus is the Messiah. Do this and I will convert to Christianity in a heart beat.

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can we establish a non cucked presence on reddit

r/christianity infuriates me. one of the highest mods is an atheist, any christian response is downvoted and homosexual "christians" who believe you can worship any god you want and jesus was guru get voted sky high. this board also has loads of inter denominational bickering, but i prefer the attitude of people not being afraid to rail on atheists and other idiots but also just the more in your face muscular alpha christianity compared to the world of beta cucks that everyone thinks christians are supposed to believe. reddit is getting bigger and bigger, we should have some sort of presence there right? if nothing else to show that christans aren't beta cucks.

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secret societies on suicide watch

>Italian Freemasonry is up in arms, as the new Italian government may seek to place restrictions on secret societies, including banning Freemasons from public office. Given Italian politics, I assume the situation is very much in flux.

https://twitter.com/i/moments/1000839204450992128

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Webm Thread

Webm thread, post your andersons, vitamin k, and anime.

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Is the soul in the brain? Also, what will consciousness be like after death? If the brain controls the five sense, the soul could not have that beyond death. What will mind be like after death? Will we have mind? What will we perceive?

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Divination

Is there any circumstance in any time by any reading where it's acceptable? My dearest friend and I are having a serious problem reconciling our beliefs and it's causing potentially permanent emotional damage. She doesn't even believe in it, but can't endure the fact that I consider something she considers part of her heritage an evil act. She wants to do it as a sort of self-searching thing, but I don't even want it in the house. And she doesn't see the difference between receiving information from random spirits and God, as long as the spirits aren't malevolent.

I expect I already know the answer, but this is killing me, and her.

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SUNDAY THREAD:

Sunday Thread:

Christ is risen!

ALL DENOMINATIONS ARE WELCOME

Please please please try to keep any break out debates to a minimum and civil. If it starts to derail the thread then take the debate to a separate thread.

Happy Sunday everybody. GO TO CHURCH OR BURN IN HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY! :)

>Reading 1, Wisdom 1:13-15, 2:23-24

>Responsorial Psalm, Psalms 30:2, 4, 5-6, 11, 12, 13

>Reading 2, 2 Corinthians 8:7, 9, 13-15

>Gospel, Mark 5:21-43

While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is my body.” Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. 29 I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom." (Matthew 26:26-29)

When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices so that they might go to anoint Jesus’ body. Very early on the first day of the week, just after sunrise, they were on their way to the tomb and they asked each other, “Who will roll the stone away from the entrance of the tomb?” But when they looked up, they saw that the stone, which was very large, had been rolled away. As they entered the tomb, they saw a young man dressed in a white robe sitting on the right side, and they were alarmed. “Don’t be alarmed,” he said. “You are looking for Jesus the Nazarene, who was crucified. He has risen! He is not here. See the place where they laid him. But go, tell his disciples and Peter, ‘He is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him, just as he told you.’” Trembling and bewildered, the women went out and fled from the tomb. They said nothing to anyone, because they were afraid. (Mark 16:1-8)

They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. (Acts 20:7)

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Fellowship Thread to Discuss why Atheists are Depressed

So what is this thread? I decided to create this thread because I had a problem, I'm a recent convert and I wanted to understand the different headspace between your average atheist and ordinary Christians. I'm perfectly competent at understanding how secular people tick having been a deist, but I need help understanding you guys. What virtues, verses, parables, etc. make you personally optimistic and faithful, possessing the "warmness of heart" talked about in the book "Unseen Warfare?" I really understand the phrase warmness of heart, even though I think its based in medical humorism (you know, blood, bile, phlegm) because its how I feel post-conversion (up from mostly just misery and occasional bouts of hypochondria). Maybe this isn't worth a thread, but I want to find out if I'm on the right track personally, because I've been on a bit of a spiritual crash course.

Regardless, link related is how you know that people are not logical or rational in the slightest. Imagine now that you're an atheist, and you are certain there is no God, heaven, or hell. It is false no matter who has the audacity to say it; so why be sad about it? Epicurus wasn't.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueAtheism/comments/4ebxbv/why_does_depression_seem_to_be_so_rampant_amongs/

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Orthodox or Catholic?

Thread for good faith arguments and apologetics/resource posting.

I'm not trying to start division but am genuinely unsure of who is correct so I would like to see good faith debating. I've heard many of the standard arguments from both sides but I'm looking to basically take the strongest ones, put them side by side and go wherever God guides me.

Protestants are welcome to post apologetics as well, at this point I'm gaslit to the point where I'm willing to hear out any sane arguments.

I can recognize the utility of religion and the truth of Christianity now I'm simply trying to find the most orthodox way of practicing it. Hopefully others can be helped by this thread too.

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Just saying

Can we just agree that biblical infallibility is just a philosophy of the church, and not reality. Every argument I have heard contrary to this from a biblical source is either taken out of context, or is not relating to the Canon as it now exists. I think if the Canon is divine inspiration, that is a position made after the fact. Now I am not knocking anyone, including the church. I am just saying the church is the origin of modern Canon, God hasn't proclaimed such a position.

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*inhales*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Is god evil?

I'll admit I'm an atheist but it's never been a set in stone thing. I can't prove God exists but I can't prove he doesn't exist, but that's not the point.

I suffer from incurable TRD (treatment resistant depression) and Bipolar 2 Disorder (periods of intense misery without the periods of mania associated with bipolar disorder). I've always had social anxiety but recently it's gotten to the point where I will break down and cry in public and need to hide in a washroom or something. Of course, I also have autism and feel completely alienated and outcasted from the rest of human society without any ability to truly connect with another individual. I have had no friends for several years and after a period of emotional abuse from my family I've abandoned them as well.

I've worked in the medical field for most of my life. I originally wanted to become a Personal Support Worker for the main reason of helping people. A few years ago I had to abandon that job because of worsening depression, and have been working minimum wage ever since because it's all I seem capable of.

Because I'm still capable of working, I'm unable to get any form of welfare for my condition, and cannot afford most of the treatments I'm on. I had about $100,000 saved but over the past decade it's dwindled down to about $20,000 and I'm seriously contemplating suicide because there is no purpose to life and very soon I won't be able to afford the medications I rely on to find the strength to get out of bed.

So here's my question for you, /christian/. I've been in church several times in my life and being told things like "God loves you" makes me clench my fists in rage. What kind of kind and loving god would put anyone through this? And there are people that have things much worse than I do, so what is God's plan for them? Why is he making them suffer without so much as even letting us know that, yes, he actually is out there watching us (and not so he can laugh at our misery)?

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Would you attend a gay "wedding"? I am supposed to go to one in a few hours for my cousin and her bull dyke "fiance" and am in a dilemma. On one hand I am totally opposed to this disgrace and had no intention of ever going, but I know that my grandfather and my aunt (who is a divorced, weed-smoking degenerate that is highly critical of any organized religion) will be angry and because my grandparents help me financially at times, I know that I may be cut off from that for a while. If I go I know I will always look back and feel like I compromised on my beliefs, and I can't take that back. Any advice or similar stories?

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Is Judaism a ripoff of Zoroastrianism?

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Was John Calvin a crypto-Jew?

There are some theories going around the internet that Calvin was originally called Cohen before he came to Geneva. I'm not sure if he was Jewish or not, but if he was a crypto-Jew, that would explain his obsession with following Old Testament laws and punishments. He also seemed to despise the concept of Christian liberty in acceptance of the "regulative principle of worship." That level of nit-picking resembles the fevered zeal of a Jew, in my opinion.

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ENOUGH

I've had enough of this nonsense about 'muh based Orthodoxy'. The argument follows the same logic as 'muh based muslims.' I'll tell you right now the reason that Orthodoxy is perceived as much more conservative than Catholicism. It isn't Vatican II, nor is it some jewish infiltration conspiracy, and most importantly, it has nothing to do with actual doctrine. The reason the Orthodox Church is more conservative is because it operates in strictly conservative, by comparison, regions of the world. Orthodoxy spans eastern Europe, Greece, the Middle East, and Russia, with some also in Ethiopia. All of these regions are far more conservative than Western Europe, North America, and Latin America. An enormous percentage of Catholicism's followers live in the liberalized West. Therefore, the Catholic Church has toned down its conservative preaching in favor of a more liberal marketing in order to reach this liberal audience. Catholicism still hasn't changed any doctrine, Scripture, or theology whatsoever, they've merely had a handful of liberal clergy and general leadership in order to appeal to the less religious West. Orthodoxy doesn't have to market to a liberal audience as much because its entire populations are slavic, greek, or arab, and are conservative by cultural origin, not because of the religion itself.

I guarantee that if Orthodoxy was larger in the West, it would present itself to a more liberal audience as well. You can already see this with the more 'open-minded' Orthodox Churches in the US, with some priests even asking for the support of homosexuals, a far cry from this myth of 'the orthodox church spits on gays'.

To sum this up: Orthodoxy's conservatism is rooted in its geography, as is Catholicism's very recent liberalism due to its more universal audience. You should not be choosing your denomination from the perceived attitudes of 'muh based' Russians, Copts, and Greeks, but on the doctrine and theological arguments.

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Christ methaphor rankings

So which Christ methaphor is /christian/ favorite? Mine is All Might from my hero academia.

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Do animals have souls?

Other primeapes, elephants, dolphins, dogs and even certain farm animals do not seem too far removed from us in certain aspects, especily elephants. But do they have souls?

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Why do Muslims hate Paul so much yet claim to honor Jesus? Actually, liberal "Christians" are also constantly critical of Paul and often voice their dislike for him but claim they love Jesus… Jews who claim that they respect Jesus also hate Paul saying he was a self hating Jew. Why do they hate him so much yet claim to honor Christ? How is it possible to love Christ yet hate his servants? If you hate his servants then you must hate Christ… right? I don't get their logic. Why do they hate Paul?

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Can you guys recommend me some good bible study guides? Preferably free but I'd be willing to spend some dosh if need be. I'm a newly reformed fedora tipper so trying to interpret the text myself seems like a bad idea.

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OSAS Fail

Andersonites this is for you. Let us suppose Pastor Anderson baptizes and saves someone who down the road realizes that they are gay, then technically according to his doctrinal statements, the gay must still be saved and going to heaven right? How come Steve never talks about this conundrum?

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Is the Anglican Church in North America a good denomination to join?

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The Holy Mother in Egypt

In 1968, an apparition of the Virgin Mary appeared to over 10,000 Egyptians, both coptic orthodox christian and sunni muslim. Even the infamous Gamel Abdel-Nasser said he experienced this Marian Apparition.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVU8bhbQInw&t=

My grandparents and my dad lived in Cairo for years, but they left Egypt before this miracle took place. I really wish they could've seen it. Pray to Mother Mary, brothers..she is our Holy Mother.

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How do we purge the homosexual clergy from the Church? Literally there are priests having gay orgies with each other in sacred spaces and it's sickening.

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Johnny Cash appreciation thread

A baptist we can all appreciate.

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How can I practice more 'medieval' Catholicism?

The current Catholic Church is too modernist for me. I am not a sedevacantist or anything but I think the Church now is less glorious and more permissive.

For example I think we should go back to medieval fasting (which was much tougher than Muslim Ramadan, let alone not eating meat on Fridays lol)

Did any of you incorporate similar things into your faith? And how do you deal with modernity?

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Church Fathers

Where can I buy the complete, unadulterated collection of the church fathers?

Is this a good source?

https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/1565630815/ref=acr_dpproductdetail_text?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

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How do you deal with depression as a Christian?

>Considering celibacy for life

>Life going to crap

>Everything slowly gets stripped away as all I have left is Christ

I feel secure in knowing I have salvation, still study the Bible, argue for Christ at work and on /pol/ (occasionally), and yet all I seem to be left with is this struggle with slipping into depression.

Deep down I still feel security and just wish Christ would come back already, but it doesn't help that I constantly fall into a crap feeling.

How do I learn joy?

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I bring to you a lost lamb.

I come to you all after a bout of mental relapse that made me dawn on the worth, or lack thereof, of my life. I mostly play videogames, but halfway through a game, a thought dawned on me and I broke out in a cold sweat; I contribute nothing to this world in a meaningful way, and no one will mourn my passing. It may be due to me being solitary, or that I have nothing to work towards or look forward to, but I am not even past the third-decade mark and I believe to be having a mid-life crises. I know not if religion is my answer, but to be truthful, I was agnostic up until the moment of realization. I know not if I want to have a significant other or a child, either, but in this moment of clarity, I want to gain some sort of starting point to correct my path.

To clarify a few things: I took Sunday school, but only because I had to. As far as I can remember, I was an atheist and then an agnostic, because I realized that 'whether He exists or not does not depend on I believe or what others says.' That was a quote from New Vegas, and it really made me think deep about it. I think about life objectively, and since faith is purely belief, I could not see myself reconciling easily. I was baptized during that period, so whether it still holds I am not sure.

Finally, I have rarely gone to church or prayed, and I want to start again. I see a prayer thread, but I took a religious class once and came away from it with a different perspective that religion is more than faith, that it is based on helping other through specific guidelines. Because there were multiple books and multiple offshoots of Christianity though, I was not sure which one was the 'right' one and gave up thinking any more of it.

If you think me desperate, I am. I am at a loss for what to do with my life and want to find something to fill that void.

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When the Internet Turned Atheism Into a Joke

https://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/When-The-Internet-Turned-Atheism-Into-A-Joke

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>Join Church in order to escape the modern world

>Church is absolutely infected with modernism

What is left me guys? Do I just become an angry hermit?

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Authority

If no one can interpret the bible due to its lack of perspicuity then what makes you think you can interpret any other text such as the writings of the church fathers to help you define tradition. If you say a council or pope dogmatically defines these things then how do you know if you're interpreting their interpretation right? If their words are clear enough for people to privately interpret them was God a bad communicator?

Also, rate my OC meme.

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/pastor/

If one experiences the movement of the Holy Spirit, and feels like God is calling them to a life of preaching, how much money could one make by becoming a full or part time pastor? I am wondering because I need to know if I could support a family by leading a carrier towards God.

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Reverting to Christianity

God bless you anons, I've decided that Christianity is right for me after switching between religions which never seemed to work for me; Christianity just feels like it's "correct" if you know what I mean. Maybe that's because I was brought up as an Anglican, but maybe it's because in my heart I know it's correct. Nevertheless I know I'm going to get a lot of conflicting answers but I'm not sure whether to be an Anglican, Catholic or Orthodox, can someone explain which one is "better" and why?

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Satanist Fail. Big Time.

The amount of the cringe in these photos is off the charts. Why do they do this to themselves? They say it is to release emotional baggage, but I think they leave with more than they started with.

http://archive.li/xuPRv

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Do the Jesuits control everything?

Do the Jesuits really control everything or is this just a meme? Do you think it's possible they're working with the Jews? Should we as Catholics make it our duty to fight against them?

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Mark 16:9 - 20

In my copy of the Bible at the end of the book of Mark is a disclaimer saying "The most reliable early manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9 - 20." The passage itself is really weird and out of place it tells of people drinking poison and quickly and awkwardly goes over the Resurrection and ascension. Should we just completely disregard that part of the gospel?

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French President Macron, a known Soros financed globalist, visit Pope Francis to get his help into forcing italian government to accept mass immigration.

Also reminder the Vatican secretary of state was at Bilderberg and attacked the "populists" often.

The leftist drift of this pontificate continues.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/26/emmanuel-macron-meeting-pope-francis-vatican-french-president

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Baptist General

SALVATION

John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

John 6:28-29 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

The Bible Way to Heaven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDEBz25lGdY

INDEPENDENT FUNDAMENTAL BAPTIST SERMONS

"King Saul & the Old IFB"

https://youtu.be/FIGpF12snU4

"Feminism in light of the Bible"

https://youtu.be/ruFnghl4W6E

"Antichrist Bible Versions"

https://youtu.be/SEXmPB-ksEM

PSALM 23

1 Bless the Lord, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name.

2 Bless the Lord, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:

3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;

4 Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with lovingkindness and tender mercies;

5 Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's.

6 The Lord executeth righteousness and judgment for all that are oppressed.

7 He made known his ways unto Moses, his acts unto the children of Israel.

8 The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy.

9 He will not always chide: neither will he keep his anger for ever.

10 He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.

11 For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him.

12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.

13 Like as a father pitieth his children, so the Lord pitieth them that fear him.

14 For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust.

15 As for man, his days are as grass: as a flower of the field, so he flourisheth.

16 For the wind passeth over it, and it is gone; and the place thereof shall know it no more.

17 But the mercy of the Lord is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;

18 To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them.

19 The Lord hath prepared his throne in the heavens; and his kingdom ruleth over all.

20 Bless the Lord, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.

21 Bless ye the Lord, all ye his hosts; ye ministers of his, that do his pleasure.

22 Bless the Lord, all his works in all places of his dominion: bless the Lord, O my soul.

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Did I do a good deed?

I witnessed a homeless person being thrown out of a supermarket almost immideatly after he entered it.

He mumbled to himself, when I passed him. I asked him what was going on. He mumbled something about "beer and money and 60 years".

At first I thought he asked me for money, so I gave some excuse. But apparently he wanted me to buy beer with his own money.

I thought it was unjust that someone with money on him would just get thrown out, so I accepted. I bought him a beer. (I had trouble picking out the right sort, because I never ever drink. I am not ashamed of that)

Anyway, when I was done I allowed myself a little prank and told him, after he thought I would go away: "You know a visit in the church might help you more than that beer I just bought you."

"Why don't you join me in church? I go to (name of church)."

Anyway afterwards he looked at me a bit perplexed, like he normally never encounters situations like this.

Funny thing is I am not a religious person either, but I like to think that this might have made a difference in his life.

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Why do Latin's make images of God the Father? That's forbidden.

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No, but seriously, what's his problem?

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What did anons think of this?

I really liked it, very beautifully made and the writing was top notch.

Can't wait for the sequel.

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Choosing a denomination

I was going to become eastern orthodox but I found out thru research that they are pro- letting people get married 4 times, pro contraception and they verge on having the same average political liberalism as Jews. I was actually pretty serous and planning to convert to orthodoxy until I found out they weren't actually traditional.

Do you have any advice of what to do ? go orthodox any way? Join pastor anderson? I am extremely lost.

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What do you guys think about A Voice in the Desert? I watched a bunch of his videos and I think he makes lots of sense but it is extremely scary. I feel like if I don't follow the radical commands of Christ is because I am just a coward seeking comfort. I don't know what to do now… How did you guys react to his videos and how did you reconcile your actions with the more radical teaching such as forsaking everything and family for christ?

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Were the Crusades really about defense?

And if it was, then it wasn't a moral one because of the following reasons.

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Life and Time

What, if anything, does the Bible say on the matter of life before man? Was it a few days of creation, or eons of geologic time? Did the animals arise suddenly and reproduce within their own groups, or develop over the ages into familiar forms?

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ITT: We laugh at fedoras

Also do not post "Faces of Atheism" since most of those are satire

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Genes and Christianity

I apologize if this was reposted but i wanted to know what you guys think.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4038932/

http://archive.li/A8zNU

The study posted is about how much genes influence our political beliefs and I wanted to ask, Do our genes influence our religious beliefs as well?, are we destined to be christians? in the same way that atheist are destined to be atheists?

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THE ORTHODOX STUDY BIBLE DOESN'T CONTAIN 2 ESDRAS

The book it calls 2 Esdras is just the regular Book of Ezra that's in Protestant and Catholic Bibles. which is basically the same thing as 1 Esdras. In the introduction of the book they even quote 2 Esdras 12:20 which, since Ezra only has 10 chapters, isn't found in the book. And in the study note in the Book of Tobit where they talk about the Seven Archangels, they refer to 2 Esdras 4:1 when talking about Uriel, but that verse isn't there because 2 Esdras ISN'T THERE EITHER. When you click on it in the digital version it just takes you to Ezra 4:1. At first I thought it was because there was something wrong with the digital version that I pirated, but then I looked in my physical version of the book and it 2 Esdras wasn't there either. What's going on? Is this fixed in more recent editions of the book? I have a book that contains all of the Old Testament Apocrypha separately, but I would really like to read it with the great theological commentary that the Orthodox Study Bible provides. I'm upset.

While we're on the subject, what's the story with the Orthodox having more books in their Bibles than the Catholics like 2 Esdras and 3 Maccabees? Shouldn't they have the same amount since they're both based on the canon that was decided in the 4th century? Did the Catholics remove them later or did the Orthodox add them later?

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Top literary guys

Who are the GK Chestertons or CS Lewises of Eastern Orthodoxy? I like reading these Anglos but want something closer to home.

I know Dostoevsky, and Tolstoy was a heretic.

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How do you go from pic 1

>puritans

>come to the new world

>not fond of papism or its bastard child the church of england

>strict tulip calvinist

>striclty against any and all degeneracy

>family oriented women and children are subordinate

>live work heavy productive lives

>bible is sole guide in life

>burn a couple witches every now and again

to pic 2

>united church of christ

>love slaughtering children in the womb

>90% of the clergy is female

>ucc churches look like a play ground

>promote sodomy and transgenderism

>have joint services with hindus and buddhists

>promote cultural marxism and socialism

>toss out anything in the bible that isn't "progressive"

What happened to the Puritans?

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Zizek on Tolkien/LOTR

>Only a devout Christian could’ve imagined such a magnificent pagan universe, thereby confirming that paganism is the ultimate Christian dream.

Is he right, /Christian/? Are we nothing more than incognito pagans?

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Jordan Peterson, "why orthodox christians like me"

I think he has a point.

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What does Christian think of Ascetecism?

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Is there a denomination that combines core concepts of all denominations?

Something that combines what all the denominations have in common. My idea is that if everyone agrees for sure on something for 2000 years then that must be the truth.

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When you pray to God, how often is your prayers answered?

How long does it usually take for them to be answered?

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Marian "magnification"

Explain to me how this is not blasphemous.

Comb the hymn verse by verse.

Justify every line.

Examples:

>Let us sing to our Redeemer and our God

>Most Holy Theotokos save us

"Most Holy Theotokos save us" is repeated throughout the hymn so maybe the line is a non-sequitur and this pair of verses isn't expository, but the fact that these two lines are consecutive is at the very least a cause of grave confusion. But forget about that: how can Mary save anyone ???

inb4

>ding dong bannu

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ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP: ‘YOU HAVE TO BE POLITICALLY INCORRECT’

The Roman Catholic Leader Urged Graduates Of Thomas Aquinas College To Stand Up For Biblical Principles In The Public Square.

https://www.trunews.com/stream/bishop-you-have-to-be-politically-incorrect

At the commencement ceremonies at Thomas Aquinas College in California earlier this month, the Bishop of Madison, Wis., the Most Rev. Robert C. Morlino told graduates they “have to be politically incorrect” in today’s world. Serving perhaps one of the most morally backslidden communities in the U.S., Morlino reminded the graduates that in today’s society, truth “offends people,” and that one of the most offensive things anyone can say today is that “men are men and women are women”: “Who would ever think that that’s controversial? If you’re a man, then be a man. If you’re a woman, then be a woman. That’s speaking truth. And that’s what our world does not want to hear. And so now we don’t know what marriage is and we’re not even sure what it means to be a male or a female. People are even trying to come up with proper names to give gender-neutral children.” Morlino told the graduates part of their mission in life will be to “make the voice of reason heard in our culture,” and to shine their light “on the darkness of our world.” That means, he added, they often “have to be politically incorrect.”

The bishop also touched on the subject of marriage, on natural law, democracy, and Western civilization. He also discussed human nature, invoking Isaiah 59:14, which states: “Justice is turned backward, and righteousness stands far off; for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.” (MEV) Morlino concluded with an admonition about courage, which he described as “a gift infused by God” that is acquired and perfected through practice, adding: “If you want to be courageous in speaking the truth, you have to practice doing it precisely in those situations where it is difficult. Don’t be like Peter during the Passion, sitting quietly with your head down hoping no one will notice you. You are called to be like Peter on the day of Pentecost, speaking the truth boldly without waiting to be asked. “You have been sacramentally equipped by your baptism and confirmation and intellectually equipped by your education to be witnesses to the truth of Jesus Christ. That means you must witness to the truth as Jesus Christ taught it. And that means at times you offend a lot of people. So it’s very hard to be a witness to Jesus Christ. It’s easier to just go with the flow. 'Go along to get along,' as they say. Well, we’ve had enough going along to get along. It takes courage to speak the truth of Christ, but do not be afraid!” Christ, the bishop reminded them, has overcome the world, and He is alone the only hope who never disappoints.

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Just a reminder, God knows the innermost contents of your being.

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How can God have attributes, without changing, if he was alone for eternity?

This is something I've wondered about a lot before, and I was wondering if there were any good resources for this. Certain attributes of God, such as merciful, loving, forgiving, etc. are active attributes that can't exist alone. Meaning that you can't be loving with nobody to love, you have to love someone else. So I'm wondering this: God existed alone for eternity before creating anything, so how can he be loving if he had nobody to love? Some people might say that he had foreknowledge of us or of the angels, and loved us based on that, but if he was only creating out of foreknowledge then where did that foreknowledge come from?

Basically, I don't understand how a single being alone in the universe can become loving with no other being to love, have any Christian scholars or philosophers looked into this? Are there any resources you could give me on the nature of God?

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How do christians explain the neanderthals and how they constituted a clearly different species from homo sapiens?

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Christians most persecuted: something we already knew but retards don't admit

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/978361/christianity-persecution-religious-freedom-christian-muslim-persecuted-china

>CHRISTIANS are the most persecuted religion in the world as they face mounting pressure over their beliefs, with government restrictions, nationalist parties, and harassment aimed at minority faiths continuing on a global upswing.

>Pew lists China as the worst country for government obstructions - the rigidly atheist Communist regime banned online purchases of Bibles just before Easter earlier this year following efforts to remove Christian symbols from homes.

>Overall, the Asia-Pacific region places more limits on Christianity than any other part of the world and according to the report, it contains about a third of countries where Christians were harassed by governments.

https://www.christiandailyreporter.com/

<Good site for Christian news

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[Response to 664451]

>Yes sure anon, lets pray that the soldiers of great satan are successful in spreading sin accross the world. Lets pray they invade more countries and kill more people. And dont fprget to pray for them that all the weapons deals giving arms to islamic extremists,lets pray especially for that

If you are referring to the USA as the "great satan" you are dead wrong. The "great satan" is the globalist cabal that consisted of cults, secret societies, banksters, etc., that use child sex slaves to blackmail leaders to do their evil bidding- all for their own power and control.

Concerning the USA military I do not mean "good success" as supporting jihadis (as Obama did to mass-murder our Christian brothers & sisters), nor to invade countries like Iraq under false pretenses, nor to traffic in children, money, drugs, and guns.

An example of "good success" is to surround North Korea for their protection against the CIA-Rothschild gang (part of the evil globalist cabal).

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New darkmatter video, watch until end and debate

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Sexuality

>be me

>start thinking gay thoughts

>not even real gay thoughts but just mirin' a physique

>Bible falls off the shelf

okay weird but it was probably unbalanced

>be me

>start thinking some straight thoughts about teasing a girl who's into dirty stuff

>Crucifix falls off the shelf

Christianity confirmed!

but…

God pls, can I not do with my penis as I please? That shit from Leviticus canon too?

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The Marked

For the sake of this thread, let's call the people who take the mark of the beast into their hand or forehead as "The Marked".

What changes within a person's mind or soul will occur within The Marked? How will they behave? What will be their thoughts? Will they attack each other?

What are your thoughts?

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BEGOMING MONK

The elder Paissios of the Holy montain says there is two kind of men, the ones who are made of steel, the others of wood. That's how you know if you are made for mariage or for monasticism. We can assume, following the symbols of the philocalia that he meant monasticism by the steel.

I need help here. How am I supposed to know if I am made of steel or of wood ? How can I know my vocation ?

Also vocation thread.

>inb4: third option

there is none for the elder Paissios.

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HERESY PURGING TIME

HELP ME PURGE THIS HERESY MY BROTHERS

http://boards."four"chan.org/x/thread/20993370

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Should we make art christian once again?

there's no way we can lose to shit like CALarts, right?

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Please don't use the name Yahweh

I haven't seen this often on here, but this is just a reminder. Yahweh is not God, he is a deity from a far off religion.

Remember that God uses the names of deities from the religion of the region to talk to people, just like when he introduced himself as El to Abraham. He took the name as Yahweh when he talked to the ancient Hebrews, taking the name from a minor god of the region. This somehow got stuck on now I see mostly protestants using it to "be more spiritual" or whatever.

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TEDx: Pedophilia is a natural sexual orientation

>https://vimeo.com/275952699

>A disgusting TEDx Talk trying to normalize pedophilia by declaring that "pedophilia is a natural sexual orientation, just like heterosexuality". They deleted this video from their official channel after it got too much negative feedback. TED.com is now trying to illegally censor this video by having it scrubbed from YouTube due to "copyright infringement", even though the video is licensed under the Creative Commons.

>A week ago TEDx Talks YouTube channel uploaded a talk where a woman tried explaining that "pedophilia is a natural sexual orientation, just like heterosexuality". The video went viral and got thousands of thumbs down, and the comment section was full of people demanding blood.

>TEDx Talks then deleted the video, trying to quietly sweep it under the rug. After they did that, a video mirror was uploaded and the video had almost 15k views in under 24 hours. It had gone viral and outrage was spreading all across the Internet. It was waking normies up hard. The fire was rising, fast.

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How is this acceptable?

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On "justification by faith alone"

According to Wikipedia (in the article about the Epistle of James) Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy have historically argued that the passage James 2:14-26 disproves the doctrine of justification by faith alone. Protestants, however, resolve the apparent conflict between this passage and the teachings of Paul in an alternate ways. Then as an example of Protestant view Wikipedia provides the following text:

> Paul was dealing with one kind of error while James was dealing with a different error. The errorists Paul was dealing with were people who said that works of the law were needed to be added to faith in order to help earn God's favor. Paul countered this error by pointing out that salvation was by faith alone apart from deeds of the law (Galatians 2:16; Romans 3:21-22). Paul also taught that saving faith is not dead but alive, showing thanks to God in deeds of love (Galatians 5:6 ['…since in Christ Jesus it is not being circumcised or being uncircumcised that can effect anything - only faith working through love.']). James was dealing with errorists who said that if they had faith they didn't need to show love by a life of faith (James 2:14-17). James countered this error by teaching that faith is alive, showing itself to be so by deeds of love (James 2:18,26). James and Paul both teach that salvation is by faith alone and also that faith is never alone but shows itself to be alive by deeds of love that express a believer's thanks to God for the free gift of salvation by faith in Jesus.

Now, I am doubly puzzled by this. First, I'd like to ask: is this actually the Protestant view? If yes, then which Protestants? Because this text doesn't actually sound to me as "salvation is by faith only, no deeds are required". What actually is the meaning of "justification by faith alone"?

Second, this text supposedly provides an explanation which is different from that of Roman Catholics and the Orthodox. Now, I myself am an Orthodox and I am ignorant about Roman Catholicism (and I don't really care much about it), but I can't see in this text things that contradict my Orthodox faith. So my second question is this: Is there something non-Orthodox, or non-RomanCatholic in this text that I can't see?

If I have to add something important to this text, then it would be this: We are saved by Gods grace. When someone has no deeds, then he is in a spiritual state when he has barred himself from receiving the Gods grace. Thats why deeds are required but by themselves they are worthless and contain no saving power, and it is unwise to be proud about deeds.

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Since the nation as a whole should take in Refugees because it's the Christian thing to do, then should public schools be required to have Christian classes because our nation was founded on Christian principles?

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>tfw you are 25 and have no skill in anything

>there are atheists that are more successful than you

>tfw a complete embarassment to God and probably won't get to Heaven because of this

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How do we solve the Reality problem?

Hi /christian/, I've recently stumbled into a lot of heretics who are trying to tell me that feels can't explain the world and that realistic or scientific analysis is actually better. I tried to make the heathen understand that all true understanding is gathered from feelings and intuitions, not from analyzing "material circumstances" (lmao), but he wouldn't listen. ITT: discuss how we can establish the definitive dominance of Feelz over Realz.

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>what meme pastor and his fans actually believe

A lot can change in only 500 years

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Bbased Baptists

OHNONONONONONO