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>What is this thread?

The designated political discussion thread. Christians from all parts of the political spectrum are encouraged to discuss relevant political topics and ideas, as well as ask questions and hopefully recieve answers from all points of view. Anything related to politics that doesn't actively involve the Catholic/Orthodox/Protestant churches should go here, so if a politics thread is deleted, this thread is the reason why.

As a reminder:

All board rules apply to this thread, so keep things civil.

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Prayer Requests

“But I have prayed for you, that your faith would not fail. And you, when you have turned back, strengthen your brethren.”

Luke 22:32

Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition with thanksgiving, let your requests be known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your thoughts in Christ Jesus.

Philippians 4:6-7

Confess your offences to one another and pray for one another in order to be healed. The insistent prayer of a righteous person is powerfully effective!

James 5:16

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Why do Modern Christian Leaders enforce Jewish Usury whereas in the past Christians Leaders did not

In the past Christian Kings/Leaders used to protect the people from endless Jewish Usury, but now it seems that the leaders tow the line and enable failed Jewish Banks from getting bailed out by Christians for never ending Jewish Usury via 2008 Jewish Banking Bailout… why do Christian Leaders help enforce Jewish Usury?

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Trinity explained or heresy?


1) There is only One God.

2) In eternity past*, before the beginning (creation), God was alone.

3) Even then He was not alone because He had the Logos within Him.

4) Before anything created He begat the Logos as a person distinct from Himself.

5) He was begotten not made and is of the same SUBSTANCE* of the Father.

6) Sometime after He was begotten, when time began, the Father created all things through the Logos.

7) The Logos/Son, being of the same SUBSTANCE* as God and eternal, can be rightly called God (same with the Spirit).

8) However when referred to together, the Father is called God and the Son called Lord.

*Notice substance, pretty much ignore eternity past, we as humans are never going to get it but that's the best term we have for this.


As you all know to the Greeks substance was everything. It's easiest to think of all things as two different matters for this, one is created (anything created is made of this, they even considered angels made of "matter") and one uncreated (the substance of God). Arius held that the Son was made of created matter and not uncreated "matter." There is the stuff of God and the stuff of creation.

Athenagoras in the 2nd century explains this to the Christians clearly:

"Because the multitude, who cannot distinguish between matter and God … pray to idols made of matter, should we who do distinguish and separate the uncreated and the created … come and worship images?" and "We are not atheists … because we acknowledge one God, uncreated, eternal … by whom the universe has been created through his Logos… . We acknowledge a Son of God. Nor let anyone think it ridiculous that God should have a Son… . The Son of God is the Logos of the Father… . The Nous [mind]* and Logos of the Father is the Son of God."

Created matter, and uncreated matter. Ditch the modern divide between spiritual things and non-spiritual things as the difference between "matter" and "spirit." Only think of uncreated matter and created matter, even the angels and our souls are created.

*Notice mind, about to be explained.

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Am I a reprobate?

Exhibit A: I had homosexual thoughts for a week a couple years ago. (fell for the trap meme)

Exhibit B: When I was 13 I think I blasphemed the holy spirit after seeing a post on /r/atheism inciting such.

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Not so fast christfag

>going to church one day

>this large gentleman steps in front of you and blocks you from going to church

>Still believing in 2000 year old fairy tales huh christfag?

Wat do?

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To pay taxes or not to pay?

Where does this fall on the Christian morality scale? Since we are commanded to give to Caesar what is Caesars, but at the same time we are allowed to break the law of man if it violates the Law of the Lord (in this case supporting indirectly abortions even in a small amount it's murder). Is this man moral?


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emotion infidelity a sin?

Me and my friend were discussing about emotional infidelity. She's knee deep in a relationship with a married man and I was trying to convince her that's it's wrong. The issue is that it's purely an emotional one (as opposed to a physical one), although they both have feelings for each other. She's a Christian but clings on to excuses that it isnt wrong. And I'm starting to become convinced as well. Please help explain what emotional infidelity is. Is it a real phenomenon? Can married men really never be friends with women? Is it really a sin? Why is it?

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Is faith idealism?

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You're walking to your average Sunday mass when this man dressed in cameo stops dead in your path and says "stop worshipping a Jewish God", "return to your roots", and "christainity isn't white."

What do you say.

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What happens to non-Chrisitans who don't outright deny Christ? The ones who never got to hear the Gospel.

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For The Second Time In As Many Years, The British Socialized Health Care System Wants To Euthanize A Child Who Is Sick.


The United Kingdom’s socialized health care system is prepared to euthanize a child because its doctors have determined there is nothing else they can do—even though doctors in other countries are willing to try additional options. Now, Pope Francis has weighed in, urging the Vatican-owned Bambino Gesu children’s hospital to “do everything possible” to receive Alfie Evans, the British child who has an as-yet undiagnosed brain disease. The pontiff met with Alfie’s father Wednesday and was reportedly deeply moved by the story. Alfie’s parents have attempted to seek treatment outside of the British National Health System but his doctors at Alder Hey Hospital in Liverpool say his condition is incurable, and they are prepared to remove his life support. Following a hearing Monday, the British Appellate Court sided with the doctors. The case will now go to the UK’s Supreme Court. Meanwhile, the head of Bambino Gesu said her hospital is already prepared to receive the child. She also expressed her consternation that British officials won’t allow the child to be transported: “We are not questioning the diagnosis by the English hospital. We are only offering the possibility for the child to continue living. For us it is a little difficult to understand why they will not allow him to be transported. You cannot cure everyone, but you can take care of everyone as far as possible. We take away no child’s chance to live.”

Italian Bishop Francesco Cavina, who arranged the papal audience for Alfie’s father, said the entire situation defies human logic: “Two parents asking to transfer their child from one hospital to another—I do not understand why this should be prevented, if not in Italy then in any other hospital in England. It is hard to understand something like this.” Last summer, a worldwide effort attempted to prevent the UK government from euthanizing Charlie Gard just shy of his first birthday, a matter that involved the European Court of Human Rights, which ultimately sided with doctors over the wishes of parents.

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Send help, losing faith

Convince me God cares about humans,

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Calvinism in America

Why is Calvinism so influential in America? Prominent figures in American Protestantism are coming out as reformed. It's becoming more popular among Evangelicals. What makes it so popular? Why isn't Lutheranism popular with them?

The Presbyterian Church USA membership has 1,482,767 while the Evangelical Lutheran church has 3,563,842. The Presbyterian Church in America has 374,161 while the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod has 1,584,251 confirmed. Why hasn't Catholicism made a hard influence with it's ‎70,412,021 members?

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>Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. - Matthew 7:6

>And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. - Matthew 10:14

Does this mean we're not supposed to get into pointless arguments with nonbelievers? Some if people aren't receptive move on type of thing?

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Is this good? Is there anything better for the Orthodox perspective?

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The KJV is the only true English version of the Bible.

The King James Version is the only worthy version of any English translation of the scriptures. Prove me wrong. You can't.

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Didn't see a qtddtot in the catalog, so I'm creating one. I'll start it off with this question. Is sodomy between a man and a woman sinful?

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Hello, /christian/, I would like to know whether clapping during Catholic mass (during songs and after the homily - also when it's someone's birthday) is liturgically acceptable or not.

Thanks in advance, my brothers!

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Can we get a thread discussing Babylon (the physical nation and its "spirit"?

Specifically, how its spirit is alive and well today and how a lot of its strange customs continue to exist and be practiced by many.

I think it's fairly important to discuss because it's a major civilization that is mentioned in the bible and is used as a warning for prophecy.

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Christian nation

We need a christian nation that is autocracy and clean.

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/Christ/ian Relationships General #4


As someone who is quite successful in finding a wife, seek to help my own sanity by keeping all the boohoo no-gf/waifu lamentations to one thread. You can't complain if you don't give it an honest try as anything is possible with God. I found my very own christ-chan, thank the Lord all the more for it, and seek to help you too.


is not the pride of life, we can't ever love someone else if we can't love ourselves as children and representatives of Christ.

>Get in shape. >>>/fit/

In relation to the above, you can't be a slob and expect to attract a 10/10, as its indicative of entitlement and egocentrism. A strong body requires a strong mind. Learn what your TDEE is, make a goal weight, learn to love skim milk, and make a fitness plan that includes light cardio, goblet squats, and romanian deadlifts at the absolute minimum. The person who God has for you will appreciate it, encourage it, and join you.

>Be learned and confident in Christian doctrine

Be confident in what the bible says, and what's expected of you. A good marriage minded Christian will quiz you to see if you are legitimate in your beliefs or are just desperate for companionship. If you're a bible scrub, start with the minimum of proverbs, ecclesiastes, and the New Testament. Even at just one chapter a day, this should take you about 10 months to complete.

>Philosophies Fundamental to Our Faith


We serve the eternal God, who is the very essence of Objectivity by virtue of being the creator who clearly defined the reality in which we live through His intelligent design.


In this reality, we are called to cast aside as much as possible whatever seperates us from worshipping and glorifying our Objective God for our salvation via His Son Jesus Christ.


Only Jesus can save us, but no one else is responsible for us as individuals in accepting Him as our Lord and Savior.


Defined as "fairness and straightforwardness of conduct" or "adherence to the facts." Take an honest assessment of yourself, your desires, faults, and make a plan to reach your desires by minimizing your faults. Reconcile that you will need to be just as honest about what you find to your potential mate.


Match your desires with respectable traits. The following is the ideal you should aspire to, the expectation is that you look for a person who has the same shortcomings you do. It helps that you explicitly state that the following things are potential deal breakers depending on taste. feel free to copy and paste this to your dating profile as needed.

>No Degeneracy

Illicit drug and alcohol abuse are hedonistic by nature. No drinking is best, social drinking is acceptable but open to taste. Minimal (social) media consumption limits the ability of the devil to work against your life and relationships via its nihilist/hedonist leanings.


>No body modifications

Tattoos, hair color changes and piercings are signs of self doubt, as the person doesn't believe that they are interesting enough on their own as representatives of a living God.

If you have them before salvation, understand that you potentially limit your dating pool.

>Sexual Responsibility

This is where we most fall. The modern secular media makes it difficult to resist. No sex until marriage shows respect not just to your partner but to yourself. No fapping.

Virginity/never married/no children is the ideal, but if you lack one of these, you potentially limit your dating pool.

>Sexual Roles

Dress and act respectfully in regards to biological sex.

-Men should have a sunday best for church (blazer, shirt, tie, slacks, and dress shoes), business and/or casual in general, and be assertive in regards to considering themselves, their woman, and the people important to each other.

-Women should enjoy wearing dresses and skirts in church and in public, use modest amounts of makeup and jewelry (if any), delight in submission, and earn respect of themselves from others.

>Church Attendance

At least once a month at the minimum. It is generally understood that people may have events that would keep them from church. To taste.

>Family Mindset

You both must want children and either desire or already have healthy relationships with family.

>Misc Demographics

Recommended height up to +/- 9in or 22.5cm, aged +/- 10 years from each other. To taste.

Similar body types, gym attendance rates, intellectual pursuits, income levels, race, etc.




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>Jesus wore a long rob-

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>be me

>try to rediscover faith

>undertake some amateur Biblical allegorical exegesis

>rely on the following principles, the allegorical - that Scripture is revealed and inspired, and with inspiration the original significance of the text is obscured by the flaws of the writer, which opens the room for broader interpretation; that the claim of revelation is unfalsifiable but the revealed text is consistent with logic it's better to believe than not

>The salvific, that the theme of original sin is core to Christian teaching and without a literal or allegorical cause of the Original Sin Jesus' death would be vain since there'd be nothing to redeem

>and the Xenophanic, that science has removed any room for anthropomophic or zoomorphic gods in the universe, and gods concieved from what an ancient person could percieve in his environs are very likely fake, cultural products of the time, but the Christian God always seemed pretty abstract enough that He might truly be a supreme being of the whole universe revealed to primitive people in clear terms, so this isn't a problem

>I'm willing to discard anything Biblical except the story of Eden and consequently Jesus' sacrifice which are central to the faith

>start with the genesis

>mostly consistent with the current geological creation of the earth, except the creation of the celestial bodies after the Earth and the making of birds before terrestrial life, first might just be the skies clearing up after basic proto-vegetal bacteria began to alter the atmosphere and the second might refer to reptiles, which are a precursor to birds

>fail to find anything specifically persuasive of the former except that the moon's crust could have solidified long after the Earth's

>in the interlinear Bible the birds are expressly described as flighted, something they or reptiles couldn't do before terrestrial life became dominant

>defer trying to find an explanation for this until later

>then find out the firmament was literally solid according to descriptions later in the Pentateuch

>the kikes literally thought the sky was solid like other people at the time

>Genesis is bullshit then, but according to current secular exegesis it was written separately from the Eden story, by the Jahwist source

>Pretty impossible for a literal Garden of Eden and the events therein to have transpired literally but it can be an inspired metaphor of humanity developing sentience and discerning of good and evil, which is what makes them responsible for their sin and liable to damnation; Humans only begin to civilize after the incurment of the original sin as the Bible attests; Then I took that the OS was allegorical for judgement of which only humans are possesed

>So far so good, to confirm that this story is divinely inspired I have to check for inconsistencies with my own standards in the Jahwist's writings

>Wiki says that the Jahwist portrays God as antropomorphic physically and mentally

>Analyze given examples for myself

>The "physical" proof given is just passages describing God moving in space

>How can 1 jew prophet trigger so many historical revisionists that they have to make shit up? BASED (J)!

>Psychologycal proof is the dialogue in the Garden of Eden but the inquiry of Adam's deed seems more rhetorical and an attempt to induce him to confession

>Everything is faultless so far, good prospect of me regaining faith


>Second example was Moses bargaining with God and getting Him to relent after the Jews turned to idolatry

>nothing too glaring in it

>Keep reading the Exodus until the scene where God and Moses converse in a tent

>References to faces

>It's just abstraction bro


>God literally says He has a winnie the pooh arm and backside

Give 1 reason not to rope rn, without God I only have lookism and I'm at best a 5/10

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Catholics, help me

I'm looking for books or articles by Catholics proving one (or two) things conclusively with no wiggle room and no presuppositions so that I can know whether to become Eastern Orthodox or Roman Catholic (I really want to become Roman Catholic, becoming EO is just a horrid proposition to me, especially considering the only EO church in my area is horrid to outsiders but I'd have to brave it): Did St. Peter and St. Paul's successors always hold Papal Primacy as doctrine, and was their line always unbroken, and did the Church always recognize them like this?

Bonus questions: Did the early Church always value Apostolic succession like we talk about it, or Apostolic Tradition? Cyprian actually against papal primacy? Filioque not clearly an addition?

What I would like: Books, articles, conclusive arguments with no holes or wiggle-room.

What I would not like: Pre-supposing what the Church should be like or "would Jesus let His Church be wrong for 1500 years?" No weak references from Irenaeus, or that one letter and asking "why didn't they send it to John?"

I've been looking at this stuff for this whole year, and I go to mass on Sundays (though I've not talked to the priest about joining), I'm honestly tired and want true evidence and proof with no """faith""" (hidden presuppositions) required. Help me.

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Why can't we all just get along?

Guys, why can't we just get along? Almost every thread breaks out into a Catholic-Protestant debate with Orthodox shitposting. And then sometimes threads pop up inciting stupid pissing contest about how degenerate one denomination is and how superior another is.

Yeah, in recent years there have been some good out reaching between denominoms, but there's still so much tension at the end of the day and still so much arguing and fighting between us… Can't we just all worship Christ as one body?

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El and Yahweh

Does anyone have good books or Christian scholars who can destroy the whole "Yahweh became El which became God" thing? It's been bothering me for a while. It'd also be great if the book also showed monotheism being pre-exile in Israel, and that the Israelites were not introduced to Yahweh from traders in Arabia (these are other things said about it).

All this is mildly annoying to my Faith. Though I believe in the Lord and the Resurrection as that has been proven to me and I accept it, and I am a theist and a Christian, the origins of the Father's worship needs to be settled to me, especially for stuff like this:

"When the Most High (El) gave the nations their inheritance,

when he divided all mankind,

he set up boundaries for the peoples

according to the number of the sons of Israel.

For the Lord’s (Yahweh) portion is his people,

Jacob his allotted inheritance."

This is the same God? In the context of the Israelites being polytheist originally (if that is true) this seems to be two gods. Help.

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NoFap Thread

27 You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Matthew 5:27-28

19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 1 Corinthians 6:19

8 Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Galatians 6:8

Post your NoFap successes/woes/prayer requests/ etc.

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School Bus Driver Removed after Leading Prayer…

Twin Cities School Bus Driver Removed after Leading Prayer


A Twin Cities-area school bus driver says his rights to free speech and to practice his religion were violated when he was taken off his route for leading students in prayer. The Star Tribune reports that Quality Care Transportation removed George Nathaniel from his route last week. He drove children to Nasha Shkola, a charter school focused on Russian language and culture. Quality Care owner Muk Musa says school officials received complaints that Nathaniel was forcing minors to pray.

Nathaniel says he wants to turn people to Christianity, but he never forced students to pray. Musa says Nathaniel isn't fired, but hasn't received a new route either. Nathaniel was fired from driving Burnsville children four years ago for the same reason. He's also a pastor of a Minneapolis congregation.

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Churches stop calling cops 'in name of social justice'…

The churches call their drastic approach “divesting” from policing.


First Congregational Church of Oakland shares a neighborhood with many homeless people who often come to the church in times of mental health crises. Sometimes church members feel unequipped to deal with the erratic behavior: The most heart-wrenching scenes, volunteer leader Nichola Torbett says, are the times when the church is closing for the day, and a person with nowhere else to go absolutely refuses to leave the building. At least once or twice a month, at their wits’ end, the church members call 911. Now, the church has joined a small handful of like-minded congregations with a radical goal: to stop calling the police. Not for mental health crises, not for graffiti on their buildings, not even for acts of violence. These churches believe the American police system, criticized for its impact especially on people of color, is such a problem that they should wash their hands of it entirely.

“Can this actually be reformed, when it was actually created for the unjust distribution of resources or to police black and brown bodies?” Torbett asked. For her and for her fellow church members, the answer is no — the police don’t just need reform. The police need to be abandoned altogether. The churches call their drastic approach “divesting” from policing. They say that one headline after another about policing around the country shows that it’s necessary — most recently, events include a notorious call to police about two African American men at a Philadelphia Starbucks and the fatal shooting of Stephon Clark, shot eight times as he was holding an iPhone, not a gun.

The project of divesting is organized by Showing Up for Racial Justice (SURJ), a nationwide organization that tries to get white Americans working on behalf of racial justice. The four Unitarian and Protestant churches that have joined so far include three in the Bay Area and one in Iowa City. The Northern California Nevada Conference of the United Church of Christ has signed on to recruit from among its member churches, and the Bay Area churches are talking to more congregations in their area, from denominations including the Disciples of Christ and the Presbyterian Church (USA). “It’s a challenging ask,” acknowledged the Rev. Anne Dunlap, a United Church of Christ minister who leads SURJ’s outreach to faith communities. “It’s a big ask to invite us, as white folks, to think differently about what safety means. Who do we rely on? What is safe? For whom? Should our safety be predicated on violence for other communities? And if not, what do we do if we’re confronted with a situation, because we are, as congregations? … How do we handle it if there’s a burglary? How do we handle it if there’s a situation of violence or abuse in the congregation?” Those are hard questions. The churches that commit to ending their use of police resources are training members in alternate responses to danger. Torbett said at First Congregational, church leaders have invited experts from several nonprofits to train members on de-escalating mental health crises, and on self-defense in the case of a violent person at the church. “Our goal is to never call the police,” she said. As members discuss self-defense, they’ve also decided that they will not arm anyone at the church with any weapon.

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Dutch Bible Belt

Can any dutch bros shed light on this place? I have dutch heritage and I was wondering if it would be a nice place to study, work, get married and spend my life at?

Are people there actually religious or is it just the older generations?

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Arkansas Ten Commandments display going up…

The second version of a Ten Commandments monument at the Arkansas Capitol is expected to go up next week, nearly 10 months after the first was destroyed.


Sen. Jason Rapert, R-Bigelow, announced the plans on an online fundraising page Wednesday night. Chris Powell, a spokesman for Arkansas Secretary of State Mark Martin, confirmed the installation is set for April 26. "We are happy to have made this all possible for the citizens of Arkansas as they honor one of the historical and moral foundations of American law — the Ten Commandments," Rapert wrote. The original version was rammed with a car less than 24 hours after it debuted in June. The accused driver, Michael Tate Reed II of Van Buren, was declared unfit to stand trial in November and committed to the State Hospital. Less than two weeks after the first monument was smashed, the American History and Heritage Foundation, which Rapert created, had raised roughly $55,000 in donations toward a new one. Funds had surpassed $85,000 by Thursday afternoon. The new monument will be flanked by four concrete bollards to prevent it from meeting that same fate as the first.

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Baptism needed

Hello, I am currently in a Muslim country. Not baptized. How do I have to perform the baptism? Can I take a big bottle of water and let my dad pour it over my head? Because I will not get a normal baptism here. Please help, also state your denomination and bible passages if there are any about this topic.

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Does anyone know about Oriental Christian theology, liturgy, mysticism? Coptic? Ethiopian?

Im curious about the developments, writings, and underlying difference between western conception of Christianity and Oriental

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Farcry 5

Can someone who's played through this game please explain what it's message is? Is it anti-christian or what?

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Help I AM FALLING. I need to masturbate but I don't want to because it will lead to SINFUL VIEWING HELP ME ANONS.

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Is Jesus coming back soon?

Now that it's officially World War 3, is Jesus coming back soon?

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I’m feeling very dead right now. I hardly think about God anymore and whenever I think in my mind “Jesus Christ died for my sins” it feels so unethused. My prayers are empty words. What’s going on?

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Does Evolution contradict Christianity?

Really interested in hearing opinions about this. I'm inclined to be skeptical to the idea that we evolved from apes but more open to the otherwise view.

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>Be on campus

>Join some mates

>Some 7/10 slightly prude/weakish looking girl was with them

>After a while she leaves

>"Dude, you had to hear this, apparently she has done a trio! I mean would you even believe it by looking at her?"

>Mfw I realized that even my eyes are deceptive in this regard

>Mfw most women 18 onwards are whores

I had to post this somewhere brothers.

End times when?

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What do you think?

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Hi guys,

I'm a late 20's male who is curious about christianity. I've been baptized (roman catholic) by my parents, but never got a proper religious education, and never really went to church.

So, I was looking into getting connected to a church, but I'm not sure how proceed. Should I just google the location of a catholic chruch near me and show up for mass? What would be the proper protocol for someone like me? I'm in the US if it matters

Thanks for the help

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Can someone help me deal with this?

>Move to a different state six months ago

>Have some distant family out here but I never met them, so I'm basically alone in this state

>Go to Catholic Church closest to my house, thankfully within walking distance of my apartment

>Go to a mostly empty pew, because I'm shy and don't like being crowded

>Man around my age (25) sits in the same pew

>Very attractive, sits not that far from me

>Catches me looking at him, apparently I'm not very discrete

>Smiles at me, and occasionally I can feel him looking at me as well

>Mind keeps drifting during the priest's sermon, keeps going back to guy in pew

>At the end of Mass, he approaches me as I'm leaving and introduces himself, asks for my number

>Give it to him, since he's cute and catholic

>We end up dating, and it turns out we have similar hobbies and interests

>Our first date is at a Warhammer store, playing 40k

>The next six months went by really fast, and although we have not fornicated, it is getting difficult not to - He has been somewhat handsy, and I haven't stopped him like I should

withs weekend I finally met his parents, we're watching some dumb movie called Snowpiercer on Netflix

>They're pretty cool, although his mom keeps looking at me funny, kind of making me uncomfortable

>Near the end of the movie she abruptly asks me if I know *My mother's name*

>Say yes, she's my mother. Confused as to how she knows her

>She's my mother's cousin

>I've been dating my mother's cousin's son

>Leave, because I'm horrified and I need time to process this

>He follows me out, asks me to wait

>Tell him I "can't deal with this right now" and drive home

I've been avoiding his calls, and I'm considering just switching parishes. I don't know how to deal with this. Can one of you give me some advice?

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Christchan Thread

Post your favorite/rare Christchans. Im also going to be posting a few that need to be colored in, if anybody want to do that.

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As someone who is quite successful in finding a wife, seek to help my own sanity by keeping all the boohoo no-gf/waifu lamentations to one thread. You can't complain if you don't give it an honest try as anything is possible with God. I found my very own christ-chan, thank the Lord all the more for it, and seek to help you too.


is not the pride of life, we can't ever love someone else if we can't love ourselves as children and representatives of Christ.

>Get in shape. >>>/fit/

In relation to the above, you can't be a slob and expect to attract a 10/10, as its indicative of entitlement and egocentrism. A strong body requires a strong mind. Learn what your TDEE is, make a goal weight, learn to love skim milk, and make a fitness plan that includes light cardio, goblet squats, and romanian deadlifts at the absolute minimum. The person who God has for you will appreciate it, encourage it, and join you.

>Be learned and confident in Christian doctrine

Be confident in what the bible says, and what's expected of you. A good marriage minded Christian will quiz you to see if you are legitimate in your beliefs or are just desperate for companionship. If you're a bible scrub, start with the minimum of proverbs, ecclesiastes, and the New Testament. Even at just one chapter a day, this should take you about 10 months to complete.

>Philosophies Fundamental to Our Faith


We serve the eternal God, who is the very essence of Objectivity by virtue of being the creator who clearly defined the reality in which we live through His intelligent design.


In this reality, we are called to cast aside as much as possible whatever seperates us from worshipping and glorifying our Objective God for our salvation via His Son Jesus Christ.


Only Jesus can save us, but no one else is responsible for us as individuals in accepting Him as our Lord and Savior.


Defined as "fairness and straightforwardness of conduct" or "adherence to the facts." Take an honest assessment of yourself, your desires, faults, and make a plan to reach your desires by minimizing your faults. Reconcile that you will need to be just as honest about what you find to your potential mate.


Match your desires with respectable traits. The following is the ideal you should aspire to, the expectation is that you look for a person who has the same shortcomings you do. It helps that you explicitly state that the following things are potential deal breakers depending on taste. feel free to copy and paste this to your dating profile as needed.

>No Degeneracy

Illicit drug and alcohol abuse are hedonistic by nature. No drinking is best, social drinking is acceptable but open to taste. Minimal (social) media consumption limits the ability of the devil to work against your life and relationships via its nihilist/hedonist leanings.


>No body modifications

Tattoos, hair color changes and piercings are signs of self doubt, as the person doesn't believe that they are interesting enough on their own as representatives of a living God.

If you have them before salvation, understand that you potentially limit your dating pool.

>Sexual Responsibility

This is where we most fall. The modern secular media makes it difficult to resist. No sex until marriage shows respect not just to your partner but to yourself. No fapping.

Virginity/never married/no children is the ideal, but if you lack one of these, you potentially limit your dating pool.

>Sexual Roles

Dress and act respectfully in regards to biological sex.

-Men should have a sunday best for church (blazer, shirt, tie, slacks, and dress shoes), business and/or casual in general, and be assertive in regards to considering themselves, their woman, and the people important to each other.

-Women should enjoy wearing dresses and skirts in church and in public, use modest amounts of makeup and jewelry (if any), delight in submission, and earn respect of themselves from others.

>Church Attendance

At least once a month at the minimum. It is generally understood that people may have events that would keep them from church. To taste.

>Family Mindset

You both must want children and either desire or already have healthy relationships with family.

>Misc Demographics

Recommended height up to +/- 9in or 22.5cm, aged +/- 10 years from each other. To taste.

Similar body types, gym attendance rates, intellectual pursuits, income levels, race, etc.



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A placement that may harm the church?

I am a history student, I wish to be a historian one day. I have applied for a placement doing some research for one of my professors. He does modern religious history, although being a card carrying humanist himself. The placement would see me investigate how churches and councils in a certain city attempted to regulate the change in moral behaviour of the local population during the 40s to 80s by say trying banning certain music or advertisements ect ect

I'd like to do this as I think it would one: be interesting and two: really further my career. BUT I in no way would want to contribute to something that could harm the church. So im in a bind. Of course just finding history is not bad in its self , Christians have done bad and cringey things throughout history and what to say regulating certain materiel is bad (that subjective) but I dont like the idea of this being used against us. and yet, the truth is the truth.

I wish to go on an study the recent changes in my cultures morality over the past 100 years through a conservative viewpoint , but of course I could not do that here.

so yeah thats it , an odd one but id like to hear what you think.

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Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI turns 91 today—pray for his good health.


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Theology Professor Says Jesus Was 'Drag King' with 'Queer Desires'…

The theology program at the Jesuit-run College of the Holy Cross has taken on a new tone ever since the school appointed a gender-obsessed Chair of New Testament Studies who claims Jesus was a “drag king,” a new article contends.


In a remarkable re-reading of the Bible, Professor Liew has argued that Jesus is not only “king of Israel” and “king of the Jews,” but “also a drag king,” as presented in the New Testament Gospel of John. Saint John’s constant references to Jesus wanting water, giving water, and leaking water “speak to Jesus’ gender indeterminacy and hence his cross-dressing and other queer desires,” Liew contends. Reading everything through the lens of gender, Professor Liew finds sex in the most unlikely places in the life of Jesus. The episode of Jesus washing the apostles’ feet at the Last Supper, for example, is “suggestive,” like “a literary striptease,” and “even seductive,” because it “shows and withholds at the same time,” he claims.

Liew’s sexualization of the sacred Christian texts goes beyond the reinterpretation of actions and extends to gender identity as well. For instance, Liew stated that in his Gospel, Saint John makes very clear that Jesus is a Jew but he is less clear about “whether Jesus is a biological male.” In passages that would be considered blasphemous to devout Christians, Liew eroticizes Jesus’ relationship to his disciples and even to God the Father, proposing that “Jesus himself needs others to cum with the Father.” This eroticization can be found in Liew’s interpretation of Christ’s passion and crucifixion as well, which Christians solemnly commemorate during Holy Week. “What I am suggesting is that, when Jesus’ body is being penetrated, his thoughts are on his Father. He is, in other words, imagining his passion experience as a (masochistic?) sexual relation with his own Father,” Liew has written.

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How I Didn't Become A Priest

>be me

>Eagle Scout

>double-major college degree, 4.00 GPA, Valedictorian

>have six-figure salary at a sweet job

>think that I have The Calling

>discern privately for two years

>contact parish priest and diocesan vocation director

>start process for enrolling in Seminary

>spend a year in formal discernment under spiritual advisement

>vocation director says I should quit my job to focus on my calling

>quit job for a minimum wage job helping the elderly

>go to Mass daily, Confession weekly, Adoration monthly

>spend all my time volunteering at church – choir, lectoring, eucharistic minister, catechist, etc.

>donate over a third of my savings to charity

>meet with the Bishop

>Bishop immediately doesn't like me

>Bishop refuses to enroll me and tells me to wait another year

>Bishop forces me to enroll in therapy to continue my vocational direction

>Bishop tells me that I am no longer welcome at diocesan events (like Chrism Mass)

>five priests tell me to keep my chin up

>five priests believe in my calling and have no clue why the Bishop is doing this to me

>year passes of making barely enough money to get by – miss rent a few times

>it's worth it – I'm called to be a priest

>schedule meeting with the Bishop

>wear a nice suit, drive across the whole city through morning traffic with my presentation and credentials

>Bishop shows up late to meeting

>Bishop tells me within five minutes that he will NEVER make me a priest and will NEVER change his mind

>I didn't say anything – I was flabbergasted

>ask why

>"I have my own reasons."

>welp, there goes four years of my life and the best job I've ever had

>one month later

>priest says that the Bishop no longer wants Catholics in his diocese allying with pro-life groups in Texas

>priest gives out a memo at Mass

>memo tells us that we ought to compromise on the issue of abortion

>memo tells us how to vote

>the Bishop that rejected me a month ago is now in one of the biggest scandals in the U.S.

>my Bishop may have been responsible for bankrupting the Catholic Church in Texas and maybe the U.S.

>my Bishop may have lost the Church her tax-exempt status with the IRS

I don't know how to feel, /christian/. I'm so confused.

Video related

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/christian/ language general.

I thought /christian/ needed a place where we can discuss Biblical/Christian languages like Hebrew, Greek, Latin, Aramaic, Syriac, Old Church Slavonic, etc.

We can learn here, provide resources for each other, examine the texts central to our faith, and maybe use the original language to refute heretics.

I'm personally studying Koine Greek and hope to learn Latin or Hebrew one day. What about you guys?

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On Dancing

Previous thread was shit so here's a new one I am not that thread's OP.

There are numerous references to dancing throughout scripture (including a case where Michal is cursed with childlessness for disapproving of David's enthusiastic dancing after the Ark of the Covenant's return), yet many in church history have discouraged or outright forbidden it. For example, shortly before the previous thread was deleted anon posted a short sermon by John Vianney in which he declares "there is not a Commandment of God which dancing does not cause to be transgressed, nor a Sacrament which it does not cause to be profaned," which doesn't fit well with Ecclesiastes declaring there is "A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance," along to several references to dancing in the Psalms.

Is there an explanation for this discrepancy between church figures and scripture? So far I am alright with some forms of dancing but probably wouldn't pair dance with anyone but my wife.

I almost included William Bouguereau's Orestes Pursued by the Furies but wasn't sure if the mods would approve. Here is a photograph of a bug eating a carrot instead.

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Priests flock to Vatican's week-long classes…

The Vatican has opened its doors for its annual exorcism course amid increasing demand among some of the world's Catholic communities.


As many as 250 priests from 50 countries have arrived in Rome to learn how to identify demonic possession, to hear personal accounts from other priests and to find out more about the rituals behind expelling demons. Exorcism remains controversial, in part due to its depiction in popular culture and horror films. But there have also been some cases of abuse linked to exorcisms in a range of religious sects. The week-long Vatican course is described as the only international series of lectures of its kind. Entitled Exorcism and the Prayer of Liberation, it first opened its doors in 2005 and the number of priests attending has more than doubled since then. The event costs €300 (£260, $370) and covers the theological, psychological and anthropological background to exorcisms.

Why is demand growing?

Catholic priests in several countries have told the press there has been an increase in the numbers of people reporting signs of demonic possession. Last year Pope Francis told priests that they "must not hesitate" to refer parishioners to exorcists if they suffer from "genuine spiritual disturbances". Half a million people reportedly seek exorcisms every year in Italy, while a report by Christian think-tank Theos in 2017 said that the practice was also on the rise in the UK, in part due to the spread of Pentecostal churches. Some dioceses have developed their own courses to meet the growing demand, including in Sicily and the US city of Chicago.

Father Gary Thomas, an American priest who has practised exorcisms for 12 years, says that one reason for the increase is that as society has begun to rely more heavily on social sciences, fewer churches have trained exorcists. The decline of Christianity has also led to an increase in superstitious practices, he believes. Italian priest Benigno Palilla told Vatican News that the growing use of tarot cards and sorcery had also led to a renewed demand for exorcisms. However, very few cases actually require a major exorcism. Out of 180 cases he has seen, Father Thomas says he has carried out just a dozen major exorcisms. In the Catholic Church, a "major exorcism" can only be carried out by a priest with a bishop's approval. It involves specific prayers and an invocation for the demon to leave the body of the possessed in Jesus' name.

When do priests perform exorcisms?

In 1999, the Catholic Church carried out its first major update to the rules surrounding exorcism since 1614 and distinguished between demonic possession and physical or psychological illness. As a result, Father Thomas works with a team of doctors, psychologists and psychiatrists - all practising Catholics - to rule out any other cause for a person's suffering before diagnosing demonic possession. The priest will then try a series of deliverance prayers. A major exorcism will only take place "as a last resort", he adds.

What happens in an exorcism?

As outlined by www.catholic.org, the priest must wear a type of embroidered white tunic called a surplice alongside a purple stole. The person who is possessed may be bound, and holy water should be used. The priest will make the sign of the cross on the person at several times throughout. The priest calls on saints, prays and reads excerpts from the Bible in which Jesus drives out demons from people. In Jesus' name, he asks the possessing demon to "yield to God" and "depart", as many times as necessary. Once the priest is convinced the exorcism has worked, he prays to God to prevent the evil spirit from bothering the afflicted person further, and for the "goodness and peace of our Lord Jesus Christ" to take hold of the person instead.

What are the objections?

But there is widespread criticism of exorcism and concern that it has been used by a variety of religious practitioners to carry out abuse of children and other vulnerable people. Some victims have died in rituals linked to exorcism. More generally, there is a risk that people with illnesses such as epilepsy or schizophrenia could be misdiagnosed and miss out on medical treatment if their symptoms are ascribed to supernatural phenomena.

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I'm conflicted. I've been reading about rationality and thinking about apologetics. I was raised Christian, went to a Christian school and all that.

Some people (EY and the LessWrong crowd in particular) believe religion is not only harmful, but that it must be completely extinguished for being an error in thinking. Their frame of reference is the scientific method and aspects of mathematics (statistics, probability, game theory, etc.). They're all atheists there, that's a given, but instead of the atheist that "lacks belief in God" and other irregular wordplay, they are actively trying to deconvert people.

One aspect they discuss is cognitive biases, that our thinking style is "imperfect" according to mathematical rules humans made as a result of evolution being a clumsy and imperfect designer. If we all adopt materialist-scientism worldviews the world would become a better place, apparently. There's "nothing but" matter and energy, so you must arbitrarily deny that reality has a meaningful nonmaterial aspect, or any kind of meaning for that matter - we're nothing but atoms (but for unspecified reasons we must protect the human race from a superintelligent AI identical to God by definition). Why build an AI God if you want to remove existing religion from the equation? Creating an omnipotent being with powers of atemporality and acausality could potentially be The God of the religions you try to do away with, that is this precise historical trajectory is the temporal loop needed for the AI/God to ensure its own existence. Who knows?


Here is another example https://www.readthesequences.com/Religions-Claim-To-Be-Non-Disprovable

Here the author doesn't point at the claim of God, but to the finger of another that points to God. Instead of addressing whether an omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient God can be studied, modelled and predicted as a localised event as the scientific method does, or through arguments in pure logic. Instead we get a Whiggish and selective description of history, and that "religion's" (not a religion, or theism, but "religion") position in civilisation is Non-Optimal by the standards of an unqualified silicon valley neckbeard.

My ramble leads to this: current research on rationality and the scientific method deal with localised events, like a poker game and a synthesis of two chemicals. Acting "irrational" is the norm because 'bad' evolution. Science is also having a replication crisis, is subject to fudging the numbers and plagiarism, and is often funded by motivated political interests with agendas.

Do you believe it's possible to be completely rational in your worldview (in your dealings with matter and atoms) while still believing in God? Is religion destructive, considering of all recorded wars non-Islamic wars account for ~3.5% of them in total?

Frankly I think the Orthodox notion of Prelest very rational and the prevalence of Hubris very irrational, but on the God question I'm a bit on the fence.

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Images of Christ suffering thread? Yup. It’s in images of Christ suffering thread.

Please contribute.

Let’s start with the Isenheim Altarpiece.

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How to slowly but surely change myself?

What are some small and big goals(like no fap and no porn) I should set to change myself.

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Christian Indie Set to Over-Perform at Box Office…


The nation’s moviegoers look to be turning out in bigger numbers for a Christian-themed independent film. Roadside Attractions-Lionsgate’s “I Can Only Imagine,” based on the story of the biggest-selling Christian song of all time, is looking at an estimated $15 million for the weekend from 1,629 locations, far outdoing earlier estimates of $2 million-$8 million. Budgeted at just $7 million, “I Can Only Imagine” tells the story behind the hit song of the same name and of Bart Millard, the leader of Christian rock group MercyMe. J. Michael Finley stars as Millard and Dennis Quaid plays his father in the film from directors Andrew Erwin and Jon Erwin, who helmed 2015’s “Woodlawn” and 2014 “Mom’s Night Out.”

“I Can Only Imagine” is benefiting from support from churches and groups as well as from from MercyMe, who have been helping promote the film on social media. Some moviegoers on social media were reporting sell-out crowds in their towns. The pre-Easter period typically sees the opening of several faith-based films: Next week is Sony’s “Paul, Apostle of Christ,” while threequel “God’s Not Dead: A Light in Darkness,” from Pureflix, will open on Easter weekend. The first two “God’s Not Dead” movies grossed a total $81.5 million.

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STUDY: Bigger govt linked to drop in religion…

Government vs. God? People are less religious when government is bigger, research says\


Researchers call it an exchange model of religion: If people can get what they need from the government (be it health care, education or welfare) they’re less likely to turn to a divine power for help, according to the theory. But are people actually more likely to drop religion in places where governments provide more services and stability? In a new paper, psychology researchers crunched the numbers — and found that better government services were in fact linked to lower levels of strong religious beliefs. Those findings held true in states across the U.S. and in countries around the world, researchers said. The article, “Religion as an Exchange System: The Interchangeability of God and Government in a Provider Role,” was published April 12 in Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin.

Authors Miron Zuckerman and Chen Li of the University of Rochester and Ed Diener of the Universities of Utah and Virginia wrote that their findings suggest “that if the function that religiosity provides can be acquired from some other source, the allure of religion will diminish.” The researchers also found something of a staggered link between the government services on offer and levels of religiosity in a given state. Between 2008 and 2013 in the U.S., for example, “better government services in a specific year predicted lower religiosity 1 to 2 years later,” researchers wrote. “If a secular entity provides what people need, they will be less likely to seek help from God or other supernatural entities. Government is the most likely secular provider,” the researchers concluded. “We showed in two cross-sectional analyses, one using world countries and one using states in the United States, that better government services were related to lower levels of religiosity.” How exactly did the researchers measure government service levels and how religious people are? The research relied on a mix of World Bank, World Fact Book, U.S. Census and Gallup data, researchers said. Researchers measured government services by looking at how much each state or country spent on health and education as a percentage of gross domestic product. Then researchers compared those numbers with data about religion that Gallup collected from 455,104 people across 155 countries, according to the paper. That's nearly 3,000 respondents from each country, researcher said.

“If the benefits acquired in the religious exchange can be acquired elsewhere, religion becomes less useful,” researchers wrote. They added that, when it comes to the role religion plays in establishing predictability and control in society, “the power and order emanating from God can be outsourced to the government.” Researchers adjusted their results to account for differences in quality of life and income inequality across countries and states. That way, they could attempt to isolate the relationship between two variables: government services and how religious a population is. The findings “imply that the government can provide an extra layer of security … that might help people cope with future needs, both expected and unexpected, and as such, might reduce dependence on God or other supernatural entities,” researchers wrote. The paper’s lead author, Zuckerman, has previously analyzed links between intelligence and religious beliefs. In 2013, he published a study with other Rochester researchers finding that the more intelligent someone is, the less strong his or her religious beliefs tend to be. The paper combined the results of 63 other studies to reach its conclusions, researchers said. And Zuckerman, for his part, said he wasn’t surprised by the result. "You have to realize that this relation is not new," Zuckerman told the Verge. "Studies from 1928 found [this]."

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In Particular, The AP U.S. History Book Slams President Trump And Those Who Voted For Him In 2016.


The Advanced Placement U.S. History textbook planned for distribution next school year includes passages that are biased against President Donald Trump and his supporters, and that call evangelical Christians “racists” and “xenophobes.” Tarra Snyder, a student at Rosemount (Minn.) High School, said she saw a sample copy of the textbook and began thumbing through it. She told FOX News in an interview this morning she was “appalled” by the “blatantly biased” entries, and was moved to sound the alarm over its contents. Among the entries:

• “Most thought that Trump was too extreme a candidate to win the nomination, but his extremism, his anti-establishment rhetoric, and, some said, his not-very-hidden racism connected with a significant number of primary voters …”

• “Trump’s supporters saw the vote as a victory for the people who, like themselves, had been forgotten in a fast-changing America—a mostly older, often rural or suburban, and overwhelmingly white group …”

• “Those who had long thought of the nation as a white and Christian country sometimes found it difficult to adjust …”

The textbook was authored by New York University professor James Fraser, who chairs the university’s Department of Humanities and Social Sciences in the Professions. In his staff bio, he says the book is “designed to help make U.S. History courses more lively,” while focusing on “the agency of everyday Americans of many different communities, times, and places.” Fraser’s bio also claims his work also reflects his “concern with complex debates about the place of religion in public schools.” The textbook is published by Pearson Education, which claimed the textbook “underwent rigorous peer review to ensure academic integrity." A spokesman also said it was intended to “promote debate and critical thinking by presenting multiple sides” of the 2016 election. The company claims the book is ‘unbiased” and “accurate.”

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What about Catholicism?

What about Catholicism?

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Anime is unchristian.

It promotes all sorts of degenerate sexuality and it represents men as weak and women as strong at the men's expense.

Anime is like candy, only that instead of rotting your teeth it rots your brain.

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GF & I Converted - She's Still Tied To Her Past


tl;dr - I decided to seek out God in late 2016 and brought my GF of then almost 1.5 years with me. In 2017 we both joined the Church and everything is great, she's my first real love, we get along like great friends, and have a very happy, healthy relationship. Things are not perfect tho, we both want to get married and have a large, Christian family, but -

She's still tied to her past through her college bff. She went through a very promiscuous phase in those years unfortunately (this isnt necessarily a deal breaker for me, we both lived very secular lives before finding the Lord so I'm really in no place to judge, although it makes me uncomfortable that she has a lot more sexual experience than I do, more partners, etc.) and this other girl was her bff then, sometimes going to strip clubs together, etc, etc.

All this would be fine (past is the past, again we both lived secular lives before finding the church) however the problem is that she insists on still being friends with this girl. I, on the other hand completely abandoned my previous life and wish it never happened. I havent contacted anyone from it in literally years, shes still closely in touch with hers through this girl.

I love this woman and want to be with her, we've been dating almost 3 years now and I want things to work out, but I'm not raising a family where the mother/wife is close friends with a purple haired witch (no, I'm not exaggerating, but to be fair my GF became somewhat more traditional after college, her friend - not so much).

Guys, what to do?

>inb4 cuckhold

>inb4 betamale

>inb4 etc

I had the great idea to try and replace her bff with one/some of the ladies from Church but so far this hasnt gone anywhere. GF doesnt make friends that easily, shes introverted like me.

Do I keep trying to make this happen? Part of me wants to give her an ultimatum but I'm afraid that this kind of thing drives people deeper towards something, not away from it.

what do?

pls consider praying for me in this dilemma either way, thanks.

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>Roman 13:1-2

>1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.

Is it still relevant today?

What about Israel? ISIS? China? the USA?

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Marian apparitions: why would Mary actually ask to pray to her? Isnt that a bit proud? Wasnt Mary the most humble when she was on earth? That really makes me think many are fake

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Okay, this is big.

2 John 1:9

“Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.“

I just started looking at Christian videos and did not pick a denomination yet because I don’t live in a Christian country. State your denomination and what your church says about this verse please I would thank you so much.

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The devil is upon me

Story time fellas.

>Work at a nursing home

>Surrounded by thots of every shape and form

>They have no respect for my wedding ring, in fact it seems to invigorate them

>Have a pretty easy time patrolling them since they're all low-level thots

>One day, the general shows up to work there. She's like the baroness of all thots, easily level 100

>She's a neo pagan who believes her purpose is to make married men unmarried

>Out of all the married men who work there she has chosen me to be her prey


>Constantly telling me about how I'm too pure for this world, such a "gem among all the dirt", how much she should go to church and maybe I could point her to the right one, all kinds of things

>Litters highly suggestive and sometimes brazenly sexual comments throughout every interaction with me

>I haven't done anything yet because, God forgive me, it boosts my ego to hear her say things about how holy I am despite the fact that I know she's just saying what will push my psychological buttons and I know it's not even remotely true

Pray for me lads. I need the strength to report her to HR in spite of my ego. Telling me I'm a good man as a method to seduce me is one thing, but she's kicking it up a notch lately. Just tonight, she said something racy to which I did the sign of the cross, almost as a reflex. Her face absolutely lit up and she gleefully exclaimed "I know what that is! That means you're being tempted!"

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My date with a christian girl

>be me

>28 years old lonely guy

>pray to God every night and ask for a conservative religious qt wife to have kids with

>finally meet a nice girl

>really cute, same interests, great chemistry between us

>eventually ask her about religion

>she's excited, says she's christian, read the bible several times etc


>ask her whether she's proddy or catholic but wouldn't really mind either way as long as she believes

>tells me she's neither

>ask her if she's orthodox then

>"haha, Anon, I think all mainstream denominations are totally wrong"

>get confused, ask her what she believes in

>"Anon, please don't get mad but people in my congregation don't believe in heaven, hell or the afterlife"

>try to laugh it off and say it's not a big deal

>feel dead inside

>mfw she's a heretic

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Christian OCD/scrupulosity

So I apparently I have OCD because I have overwhelming anxiety concerning my salvation and faith. I pretty much only read religious related books, I am always researching more too. I thought pic related applied to any believer? Am I actually wrong? how can I cure this and should I? Because to be honest it is ruining my daily life, I feel I can't be religious and live a regular life at the same time. How to reconcile renunciation, detachement, constant prayer with a mundane life surrounded by sin, greed, vanity, etc? I thought I was lazy in my faith because of it but apparently no one even bother with this and I have OCD? I'd like others input on this, and how you deal with religious anxiety

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What is the oldest method of receiving communion? Who has preserved it today?

I'm Orthodox but I read somewhere that reception on the tongue is actually the most ancient form. I read somewhere else that the most ancient is reception on the hand, as the Church of the East does it today and as the Roman Catholic Church does too.

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Can you kill a demon? Is it a sin to do so?

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Advice on where to get icons.

So, anons still pretty new to the eastern faith, and i was looking to set myself up with an icon. And was wondering what's the best way/place to buy an orthodox icon from. Pic related is what im looking for, if i can find one.

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/christian/ related stories

Tell whatever story you have

I'll start :

>Dogmatic theology lesson.

>Teacher is a neo-thomist priest.

>Young nun asks if it is not exaggerated to say we make "absolute choices" since our psyche tricks us.

>Teacher gets mad, doesn't answer the question.

>"So you say God doesn't furnish sufficient grace ?!"

>"You should believe the Church's teachings."


>Nun says she is just asking a question.

>Teacher continues.

>Nun starts to cry.

>tfw when you cheer up a cute crying nun saying : "it is nothing personal, he is just a retarded (yet respectable since he is priest) neo-thomist."

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Is this a sin?

Is it a sin to LARP as other faiths, mainly to make them look bad? I like LARPing as a Muslim on /pol/, or as Mormons on /christian/ or something. Though I don't always LARP to make a certain group look bad, especially if I'm LARPing as another Christian denomination.

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Laudetur Iesus Christus

Is it bad that I'm fascinated by other religions? I'm not interested in converting, I treat them as I treat Greek mythology - an intetesting view of the world that isn't true. However, maybe there are some dark forces, that make such interest dangerous?

Also, since we're at it, you can share which religions you're interested in.

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is there an orthodox version of this meme?

I need it for proselytizing

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Let the thread become a treasury of Images, valuable and wholesome to the autistic sheep amongst our ranks.

Let the Holy spirit expand our faith by using all means necessary to allign our heart with the pure and divinely virtuous.

this time, let's not give anyone any reason to delete the thread.

that means:

>no lewd

>no blasphemy

>dont break board rules

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Sacred Tradition

Can a Catholic or Orthodox Christian give the examples of Sacred Tradition? I get the *justification* for Sacred Tradition, I just don't know what actually constitutes Sacred Tradition.


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Guys I need help, please present me your arguments and reasons why religious holidays shall be National holidays also in a secularised society. Simply put, why there shouldn't be anyone working on public holidays, which are tied to religious tradition, regardless of one's belief. Deo Gratias in advance Guys

(pic for attention)

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Hey fellas, former anti-theist here who became an agnostic, then a deist, and now someone who would consider himself Christian. I know *very* little about religion and I intend to consult a number of resources. I apologize for my ignorance here, but hopefully you can set me on the right path.

I watched the "Not So Chosen People" series (here's the link to the first video for anyone who hasn't watched it, it's great): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj_3QxIMjKM

After watching the entire series, I'm convinced that Jews aren't god's chosen people. The video outlines (with biblical references) that Abraham blesses Isaac, that Isaac blesses Jacob and that Jacob blesses Joseph and not Judah. According to the video, anyone who descends from the tribe of Judah is a Jew (this seems to agree with that assertion: https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?t=kjv&strongs=h3064).

My point of confusion is that, according to Matthew 1:1, Jesus was a descendent of David. According to Ruth 1:2, David was only part Jew as he was also a descendant of Ephram (1 Samuel 17:12 makes the same point). Rachel was buried in Jerusalem which would be of significance to Joseph/Ephraim, not Judah. Micah 5:2 says that the messiah will be come from Bethlehem Ephratah. The implication the video makes is that the messiah might come from Judah, but that Jesus is a descendent of Joseph as well. Furthermore, having never read the bible, I'm likely taking this out of context (so please correct me if I'm wrong), but Revelation 5:5 seems to be calling Jesus the lion of Judah. So, even if Jesus is only part Judean, he *is* the messiah. Does that not, to some extent, make Judeans (or Jews) God's chosen people, then? If Jesus was part Judean why wouldn't the descendants of Judah also be blessed?

I guess what confuses me is that Judah was not blessed by Jacob. Yet, Jesus was at least partly Judean. I'm having trouble reconciling these two views.

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Baptist General


John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

John 6:28-29 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

The Bible Way to Heaven



"King Saul & the Old IFB"


"Feminism in light of the Bible"


"Antichrist Bible Versions"



1 Bless the Lord, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name.

2 Bless the Lord, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:

3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;

4 Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with lovingkindness and tender mercies;

5 Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's.

6 The Lord executeth righteousness and judgment for all that are oppressed.

7 He made known his ways unto Moses, his acts unto the children of Israel.

8 The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy.

9 He will not always chide: neither will he keep his anger for ever.

10 He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.

11 For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him.

12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.

13 Like as a father pitieth his children, so the Lord pitieth them that fear him.

14 For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust.

15 As for man, his days are as grass: as a flower of the field, so he flourisheth.

16 For the wind passeth over it, and it is gone; and the place thereof shall know it no more.

17 But the mercy of the Lord is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;

18 To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them.

19 The Lord hath prepared his throne in the heavens; and his kingdom ruleth over all.

20 Bless the Lord, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.

21 Bless ye the Lord, all ye his hosts; ye ministers of his, that do his pleasure.

22 Bless the Lord, all his works in all places of his dominion: bless the Lord, O my soul.

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What are /christian/'s thoughts on Muhammad (PBUH)?

/isalm/ here, what is /christian/'s honest thoughts on Muhammad (PBUH)?

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Whatever happened to common filth?

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Are you saved if you don't have the desire to not sin? Is this what repentance is? When I got saved (accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior and the only reason I'm going to heaven is because he died for me) I immediately wanted to stop sinning and find out more about the Bible, anyone else have this experience? (I still sin of course)

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Christ's crucifction

If Jesus knew he was going to come back to life, how was his death a sacrifice? If I die today and come back in 3 days, how is me dying significant in any way?

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What happens to missing limbs and foreskin upon the resurrection of the dead?

Anyone know where in the Summa to find this?

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Serious HELP Needed

"They" might try to emotionally discourage or slowly distract you from this post.

Put simply, I am dealing with a VERY serious possession and I need your help by praying, fasting, and asking angels/friendly spirits to help remove it from me. You could also ask your friends / pastors / other spiritual people you know to help.

The entity possessing me has caused all sorts of negative problems in my life. I have tried many things to remove it since becoming aware of it. I have repented, prayed, fasted numerous times at varying intensities, and forgiven all including this tormenting entity. I have gone to several Christian healers (and had a significant reaction from the entity but it was not cast out). I have spent hours trying to cast it out in the name of Jesus Christ, during which I experience a flame-like sensation however the entity remained attached.

My investigation into what caused the possession indicates that a significant trauma that I experienced during childhood enabled this entity to gain a significant foothold on my body. Thought the rest of my life so far I have experienced all sorts of social, family, professional, health, sleep, behavioural, and psychological problems.

I have read that possessing spirits can take over someones spiritual body, cause blackouts and extremely abnormal behaviours. I have had several occasions where people have told me that I have done something, but have not had any recollection of such events whatsoever. Therefore if I have done anything that you find offensive, then I sincerely apologise, and ask for your aid in removing this entity.

Please do whatever you can to help me. Just praying or fasting can help. Once free I intend on doing all that is within my power to significantly improve the condition of this world.

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Heads up: homosexual death cult possibly invading 8chan

tl;dr there's a cult of Discord-using homosexuals who spam 4chan with trap threads and ads for offsite gay support rooms and harem clubs. They convince lonely, vulnerable young men (often underage) to take nudes of themselves, dox them, then use their nudes as blackmail to force these men into taking HRT and performing other degenerate acts. Shortly after they were exposed on 4chan we've seen an uptick in trap/tranny threads across several 8chan boards (mainly /r9k/) and there's a good chance these same degenerates have set their sights on 8chan as their newest recruiting grounds.

Is there anything we can do about this? Aside from crossposting and engaging trapposters on other boards, I'm not sure. Any prayers and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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My whole life I've grown up receiving communion in the hand but have become more and more inclined on wanting to receive on the tongue to avoid desecrating the Eucharist. Problem is I'm way too concerned over screwing it up and possibly getting shamed by others (Most Americans receive only in the hand). Any advice?

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>Majority of ((American)) comic books spent Easter mocking Christians

>When get called out on hypocrisy they start bitching and moaning about being oppressed

Friendly reminder to never support the jewish controlled ((American)) comic book industry.

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Christianity and Guénonian Traditionalism

New article about the relationship between Christianity and Traditionalism that draws on some of the texts that scholars use to prove polytheism:


Traditionalism has actually had a fairly strong influence on modern Orthodoxy so its a question worth exploring.

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post things that trigger you about your church ITT.

>go to college fellowship group

>they let in an 18 year old senior in high school

REEEEE GTFO underage faggot

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Well? Are they right?

I personally believe they are correct, in part, that people have substituted pop culture into their lives as a spiritual belief in place of traditional organized religion. They are, of course, implying that this is a good thing, which is wrong on many levels.

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What are some good Christian videogames?

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Meme thread

New meme thread because the old one is autosaging, starting with a request: I need the exploitable 8ch logo, have this crop in return

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>Christian "anime"

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Air Force Colonel Exonerated For Biblical Views

Col. Leland Bohannon Lost His Command For Refusing To Sign A Certificate Of Appreciation To An Airman’s Same-Sex ‘Spouse.’


The Military Religious Freedom Foundation, which actually works to secularize the military, decried the decision as a “poisonous distortion” of “basic civil rights.” The group’s leader, Mikey Weinstein, accused the Air Force of siding with “prejudice and bigotry.” Col. Leland Bohannon had refused to sign a certificate of appreciation for the same-sex “spouse” of a retiring airman last year. As a result, he was stripped of command of the Air Force Inspection Agency at Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico and removed from consideration for brigadier general. First Liberty Institute took up Bohannon’s case, and with help from members of Congress, it was able to get the matter reviewed. Its attorneys argued there is no right to a certificate of appreciation, and the government is required to protect Bohannon’s religious liberty. Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson wrote to the members of Congress about the review board’s decision to grant Bohannon’s appeal:

>“The Director concluded that Col. Bohannon had the right to exercise his sincerely held religious beliefs and did not unlawfully discriminate when he declined to sign the certificate … Col. Bohannon met [his] duty by having a more senior officer sign the certificate.

“The Air Force places a high value on the rights of its members to observe the tenets of their respective religions or to observe no religion at all. The decision on appeal applied current Air Force policy and the law. It is an example of a situation in which protected, and potentially competing, interests must be carefully examined and resolved. “The Air Force will ensure Col. Bohannon’s records are corrected in accordance with the final agency decision.”

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Confusion and chaos reign supreme

I'll try to be as brief as I can, but here's where I'm at. Hopefully one of y'all can help me out.

I grew up in an extremely Baptist home, church hopping from fundie to charismatic to borderline cult to fundie again, before finally growing up and looking elsewhere. I realized that the people of God were not meant to be individualists, and the Baptist model of things has no root in Scripture or church history. That and baptism is for babies too.

So I try going to a presbyterian church. PCA of course, I'm no hippie. Well the congregation was made up of rejects from other Baptist churches and they couldn't find a pastor, so I left there because it too was shaky and uncertain. Been attending a CRC church for about nine months now, and the pastor is a scholar, a lover of God and of His people, and a genuine shepherd of his flock. Total brodie too. I love this man.

However, I still have issue with the low-churchness of everything…the pastor's hands are tied with the big decisions of course, but he doesn't even wear a Geneva gown or use the hymnal, and we have deaconesses. This combined with the fact that Protestant churches in general, even the most theological ones, really don't talk about church history prior to 1517, except to give context for the 95 theses.

On top of all the uncertainty and whimsy of Protestantism I've noticed, there remains the fact that the Eastern Orthodox church tangibly traces its history directly to the Apostles, and there is, at least to my observation, the least corruption of church officials overall in Orthodoxy.

I don't know what to do anymore, because my whole family would turn against me if I begome, I love my pastor at the CRC, and I have nothing in Sacred Scripture nor evident reason to convince me of anything other than justification by faith alone.

I need to figure this out soon though, cause my son is due to be born in a couple months and I need to know where he's gonna be baptized.

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Catholic Critiques of Calvinism

Hi /christian/, baby Catholic here looking for some critiques of Calvinism either based on Scripture or writings of theologians/Church Fathers

I'd prefer Catholic-centred criticisms, so an hour video of Anderson ranting isn't what I want

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Catholic/Orthodox Dilemma

Currently I need some advise.

I was raised a catholic but in recent years I've become heavily attracted to the Eastern Orthodox Church, to the point where I am considering going to a Russian Orthodox Church when I go to uni this September.

However I'm sacred to convert. I'm scared to convert, I'm scared of becoming orthodox when my mother is the only catholic left in the family. I'm worried that since I go mass every Sunday and if I come back from uni converted then if I refuse communion I'll get singled out or something.

What should I do?

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Schism in the Church


In all seriousness, are we really heading toward the possibility of a schism? Is it really that bad, or is it just blown out of proportion?

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Sanatana Dharma

Any ex-hindus here? Why did you left hinduism?

Can anyone who actually spent enough time refute it and this video?


This might seem spoomfeeding but i didnt have as much understanding to this faith as some of you guys.

Please no ad-hominems like poo in loo because ultimately hinduism is an Aryan religion not a dravidian one. Thats why the nazis used. the swastika sign(duh).

This thread will help many future hindus on imageboards in the future if you could provide great metaphysical arguments for it.

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>I'm agnostic. I don’t believe any religion

>Ghosts are real by the ways

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Google "Christian privilege"


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Trannies and /christian/

I have a seemingly simple question

Is transexualism a sin?

What if they are right and they are literally a soul and brain born in a wrong gender /body ?

What is your denomination's stance on this, if any?

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How to live Christ-like in University?

Hello /christian/,

I'm in my third year of college, so I'm more than acquainted with what happens at them. I've engaged in some of the more unsavory aspects of uni life, such as bar cruising or binge drinking, though neither has reached excessive levels or anything comparable to what I see other people my age do on a weekly basis.

My uni's Jesuit, so it's attempts at creating a Christian atmosphere mostly fall flat, especially with their fondness for celebrating other religions: the vast majority of male students don't go to mass, as for one tidbit of how successful they are.

My question is for anons who've either graduated college or are still in one. How do you stay strong and faithful in the face of such rampant degenerate and social decay? I have not reached the point of hating my classmates, no where close actually, it helps that they're all fairly decrnt people, but I pity many of them for basically only focusing on getting drunk or high in the free time and not trying to think about the big picture.

I'm worried about what will happen to them , but I still understand it's part of God's plan in the end, so I'm not looking to try and "save" all of my classmates from their lifestyles. Basically, I'd like to know how to avoid and combat the plights of college life WITH OUT having to become a complete recluse.

Thank you all.

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Salvation by works

>Accept a free gift

>Okay now all I have to do is work for it

Guess the blood of Christ doesn't buy much these days.

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why do people make fun of Jesus? I understand making fun of Muhammad because he was a flawed man and became a powerful warlord, but Jesus was simple, humble, gave great teachings, he healed people and then accepted his sentence bravely.

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I miss the NYC that my parents knew as children. Happy Easter everyone.

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When Progressives visit Mount Athos


>They wear identical floor-length black gowns and are not permitted to shave — the style of dress favoured by zealots everywhere. And guess what? This state is in western Europe.

> It is easier to visit and-travel around Iran or North Korea than it is Mt Athos.

>Mt Athos is part of the EU — but there is no freedom of movement or equality of the sexes here.

>Personal expression is frowned upon.

>Doubt or questioning is discouraged.

>(EU & UNESCO Grants)Such huge grants could not be justified given that access is so limited and entry is forbidden to women

>Does the EU know and approve of the price that Mt Athos is paying in return for Russian money?


>tl;dr A Scottish Presbyterian pretends to be Anglican and constantly bitches about the customs of the monks, and the way he is treated by the monks.

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Hey RCs and orthos too what do you think about old Martin luther's teachings of grace? Ive always wondered since there is after all much overlapping with augustine which is his primary interpret of the book of romans. So is it all just negative if you dont look at all the other stuff he said?

Also isnt his idea the "declared righteousness" similar to aquinas's habitus of grace?

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What is their endgame?

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Hello. Is there a good argument against homosexuality besides "it's wrong because it says so in the Bible"? Thanks.

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Is it heresy to not believe the earth is 6000 years old? Or to think genesis is a metafor?

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Steven Anderson stole the majority of his theology from Jack Hyles. He has never had an original thought in his head.

Jack Hyles was involved in numerous scandals and perversions including an adulterous affair with Jenny Neschick.

He has affirmed heresies such as subordinationism and the eternal humanity of Christ.

His son David Hyles was a serial adulterer and was at one point involved in an open and unresolved murder investigation of a child.

Steven Anderson affirms a majority of Vatican I doctrines. He does not believe that the bible is the sole authority of the church (sola scriptura) but rather affirms the catholic and pentacostal belief of prima scriptura, where there are multiple subsistent authorities in the church, of which he (Steven Anderson) is effectively chief.

He and his lackey Paul Wittenberger use new age mood music to mesmerize his audience, something that he should oppose being conventional of theosophy and the new world order.

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Kierkegaard thread

I'll here post the complete works of Soren Kierkegaard.

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Jesus is honestly the only thing that can save this Earth.

Why did evil people take the Bible and use it for evil?

Jesus will save us all!

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Is racemixing adultery?

I am mixed race, arab father, European mother. Can I even marry now?

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DarkMatter2525 newest video


You hear me goy… I-I mean "guy" if you believe *BURP* in g-God you can't criticize c-communism. GOD IS A SOCIALIST COMMUNIST WUBA LA DUB DUB

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>Spent most of his adult life in prison for murder

>He lives off welfare and his brothers money >He has never had a real job

>ran away from a kid he didn't raise in Norway

The face of /pol/ and Neopaganism

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Why do you read false Bible versions instead of the true preserved word of God in the King James Version?

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Evangelicals. They are a problem. How do we fix them? How do we make them Catholic? How do we make them stop being Zionist? How do we make them stop believing the prosperity gospel? How do we convince them that Christianity is a religion, not a relationship?

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I need help, please

Alright… I know this isn't really /christian/ related, but I was hoping that some of my brothers in Christ could help me get through something terrible that has happened in my life.

So… There is this woman that I am in love with. She and I both want to have kids someday. However… The doctors recently found out that her womb is covered in cists… And they had to do a surgery and remove them, leaving her barren. I'm trying to comfort her as best I can, but… I don't know what to do, and honesty.. I am utterly devastated as well.

IDK… I just need.. Help.

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Far Cry 5 is an adaptation of the Book of Revelations

Wanna know /christian/'s thought on this.

>Each of the villains closely resemble the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (John is Famine, Jacob is War, Faith is Death, and Joseph is Conquest), Joseph in particular has a crown symbolizing Conquest tattooed on his chest and Faith is strongly tied to White Lillies.

>Every time you kill a subboss, Joseph mentions that you've "broken another seal". Tied to this, are newscasts that very rarely play when you're listening to the radio (most people apparently never heard these) that start off benign, but the more villains (and the more seals you've broken), the more dire these newscasts become.

>Once you're down to the last two seals the newscasts will start mentioning things such as "Moscow being struck, death toll in the millions" and warning everybody to seek immediate shelter prior to your final encounter to Joseph Seed.

>The newscasts also mention disastrous weather across the country and world

>Joseph explicitly refers to you as "the Lamb"

>When you kill Faith she states, "Joseph believes he's our savior, but you'll be the one who decides. You were the start. You will be the end.", referencing Revelation 22:13

>In the opening scene, you can barely make it out, but there's a TV screen in the background that has the verse "They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings–and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers." (Revelation 17:14)

>The main villain also shares aspects of the antichrist, as he's trying to deceive people into believing he's a prophet and a messiah

>The max amount of followers you can recruit are twelve, referencing the twelve apostles.

There's also aredditpost that explains more.


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What is the best translation of the Bible and why?

>Hardmode: No KJV or Douay-Rheims (optional)

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Post examples of creating good from evil. i.e the sacrifice of Christ.

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Im not trying to attack you Catholics just wondering. But do some of you catholics dislike that The Bible got translated into nations own language instead of Latin. Why do some of you catholics support that only Priest (and higher) should only be allowed to read Bible. Please dont gwt offendes i just wanna understand

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>you die

>you pass through a tunnel of light

>St. Peter is there, in front of the pearly gates

>Before I let you in, anon, I have but one question, yes or no

>Did you die as a member in good standing of the one true Church, the St. Francis National Evangelical Spiritual Baptist Faith Archdiocese of Canada?

wat do?

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/christian/ Draw Thread!

All skill levels welcome.

ITT post:


>Christian art you're working on!

>Christian art you've finished!

>Comments, critiques!

>Art questions, art tips!

Do not post:

<interdenominational theological argument/debate


>there is already a drawthread on page 13 in the catalog though

That thread is hot garbage, let it die.

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Is doing Yoga a sin?

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Is this /our-gal/, /christian/?

"[I spent] five years being the most popular feminist in Brazil and I did nothing for women," she says. "I just spent this time talking about abortion and legalising drugs and communism and I called that empowering myself."

>As an activist, she used to chain herself to fences in protest at chauvinism and sexual violence. She was, by her own admission, one of the most high-profile feminists in Brazil. Sara is certainly striking. She has peroxide blonde hair, tattoos and a snappy dress sense. But the thing that stands out the most is the badge she is wearing on her top. It is a picture of a skull with a knife through it and two guns.


>"It's my favourite police organisation, Bope," she says, proudly referring to the logo of Brazil's Special Police Operations Battalion. "They climb into the favelas and kill the bad guys. They put their lives at risk all the time to save the population of Rio."


>It is not the sort of comment you would expect from a liberal activist. But Sara has had a political about-turn in recent years. Six years after having an abortion, Sara became pregnant again. Between the two pregnancies, she had regained her faith in the Catholic Church and her views on pregnancy - and politics - changed radically.


>"I was so happy because I felt that God was giving me a second chance to be a mum," she recalls. "I decided to come back to the Church and I think I can help women much more with conservative politics than feminism. [I spent] five years being the most popular feminist in Brazil and I did nothing for women. I just spent this time talking about abortion and legalising drugs and communism and I called that empowering myself."


inb4 /christian/'s /pol/ish cathbros turn on her because of how she looks

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Memes and jokes asides every time someone posted a news about a Christian being persecuted or treated unjustly. When push comes to shove I find it really scary.

Had a dream last night. A Christian school got marched upon and burned to the grounds by an army. Not even children spared from the flames. Everyone decided to stand their grounds in faith (school as normal, with some singing and performance to part with, etc.). Myself in the dream however, look for every way to avert this fate for myself and possibly save some of the others, especially the children.

Then I woke up. And I got a question: If martyrdom comes knocking and in fear for your life you run from it, are you thoroughly screwed then?

inb4 those who keep their life shall lose it, but those who lose their life for Christ shall keep it.

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There is no space

The NASA and Space X are waging spiritual war, there is no space, rocket launches are rituals for the world, Rocket "ships" are actually Obelisks, Just like Nimrod shooting an arrow from the top of the tower to break the dome, it's a mocking by Satanists and adoration of pagan gods like Ra.

Google about the NASA "gargoyle" they have always worshipped pagan Gods"

People gather around and worship this scientists and they rocket "yay god isn't real, I am not going to hell for idolatry or whatever!" It is all a lie, fantasy like Starwars or whatever crap, just as fake.

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How does God judge people with no knowledge of Christ?

Hello there I come with a big question that's been weighing on my mind recently and one that my agnostic friend has put to me many times, I'm hoping someone could weigh in as well as point me in the right direction for further information.

How are individuals that have never heard of the Christian faith or that Jesus died for our sins - and as such are subsequently unable to receive 'salvation' judged upon death?

Take for example the Aboriginal people of Australia who worshiped their tree spirits and what not for thousands of years before white contact. Or the Japanese [insert island nation here] with the worship of idols and pagan gods for thousands of years before contact with Europe. Both would be doing things that the God of the Bible explicitly states that he hates. But yet both groups of people were isolated from the major events and cultural developments of the rest of the world and had, and would not have for a long time, knowledge of Jesus Christ or the doctrines of Christianity.

Take also the second category of people - those that do have knowledge of the Christian faith but are raised/indoctrinated into other faiths and religions. Or for a more extreme example, the 18 year old Muslim kid that blows himself and a room of others up with the utmost belief he is going to be rewarded in their version of paradise. I would argue that kid had more 'faith' than a majority of modern Christians. He's faith was so strong it allowed him to over-ride his own instinct for self-preservation in order to commit the act. How is it fair to condemn someone who has been indoctrinated into a 'false' belief system. I mean look how friggen big Africa is - think of all the messed up voodoo demon worshiping that went, and is still, going on in there.. surely that stuff pisses God off pretty bad, are they going straight for hellfire?

This all ties into the big question that secular people ask: "which is the right religion" and a question that I can't find a logical or intellectual answer to especially when asked to people of faith that I know, albeit I haven't asked many. What do you guys think? Has anyone else approached this question before and can provide some clarity? I appreciate all responses and insights thank you.

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Uh oh, the Pharisees are here, what do?

>"Why do you break the traditions of the elders!?"

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Based Katy Perry

This is your daily reminder that people of the Catholic faith think they are owed favor solely for being religious.


Pic related is the estate. I love how these women appeal to their faith as some sort final arbiter in regards to the situation. They believe an entire life of contributing to vain rituals and doing basically nothing gives them credence to judge others and forego basic laws of the land.

I would venture to bet that Katy Perry is closer to heaven than these hags ever will be.

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Francis: Open Borders Are Pro-Life


>In a move that is bound to enrage some of the pope’s most conservative critics, he doubled down on this issue, saying that the situation of immigrants is often presented as a lesser issue, with some Catholics considering it “a secondary issue compared to the ‘grave’ bioethical questions.”

>Quoting Matthew’s passage, Francis argued: “Can we not realize that this is exactly what Jesus demands of us, when he tells us that in welcoming the stranger we welcome him?”

>Jesus’ demands, the pope adds, are “uncompromising,” and as such, he sees it as his duty to ask Christians to accept them in a spirit of “genuine openness,” without any “ifs or buts.”

>As if expecting that this point might be contested by some within his own fold, Francis says that “This is not a notion invented by some Pope, or a momentary fad,” quoting from the Book of Exodus, in the Old Testament, to further make his point: “You shall not wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you yourselves were strangers in the land of Egypt.”

Well, /christian/? What have you done to welcome migrants? Don't call yourself pro-life if you don't support open borders.

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Imageboard Patron Saint

Dear /christian/.

I am a former member of the krautchan-community, an imageboard that died recently. Unfortunately there is a problem. kohlchan.net/int is the successor of krautchan.net/int/, but many of the users are switched to Ernstchan first, because it was more widely known and now it is hard to switch, because EC/int/ has more activity than KC/int/. The german users are already on KC/b/, but the /int/-users can not easily switch, because the would be posting on a very slow board compared to the fast board, they have been used to. EC admins and mods are supressing them with all forces and christian threads for example are deleted and the OPs are blocked for months immedieately.

I want the best for the imageboard community and want to know, to wich Saint I should send my prayers. And I could popularize that Saint as well and unite the community with that stronger, so they can go to the strong struggle and unite again on Kohlchan.net.

Can you help me with my problems?

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All Roads Lead to Rome

>The infinite sects of Protestantism have different views to such an extent that some support gay marriage and abortion while others say these are immoral and incompatible with the faith. The Catholic Church has a set doctrine on these issues, so its teaching cannot be changed by an individual parish. In most Protestant denominations, the congregation and the pastor set the beliefs of the individual church. Church “shopping” is much more common in Protestantism. You explore until you find the place where you feel most at home.

>Who determines what the church teaches and what Truth is? In most Protestant churches these questions are answered with interpretation of Scripture by the individual church. There is generally no set of doctrines since most Protestants believe in sola scriptura, which means that scripture is the only way we can understand God, which leads to vast inconsistencies through differing interpretations. Even if a Protestant church is part of a larger denomination, the specific beliefs of that denomination may not be well-known by the congregation nor have a substantial effect on the details of a service as individual church practice supersedes devotion to denomination.

>The Bible contains Truth, but we humans have distorted it. The latest social trends have corrupted Protestant Christianity, but the inherent structure of Catholicism has made is more resistant to the modern liberal cause. While there may be individual Catholics and local practices which may be altered by society, the official doctrines of the Church are resistant to change. Since Protestantism rests on interpretation of Scripture alone, the interpretation is more susceptible to be transformed by the views of the society. To paraphrase Chesterton: “We do not want a Church that will move with the world. We want a Church that will move the world.”

>The canon law of Catholicism provides the organized hierarchy of the Catholic Church that determines the Church’s teaching. The official doctrines of the Church are laid out in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. These official teachings are the culmination of sacred tradition and sacred Scripture preserved by the magisterium of the Church. The magisterium of the Catholic Church from Pope down to a local Priest is unlike any other because it can uniquely trace its lineage to Jesus thus showing a direct connection to His ministry while on Earth. This is not to say Protestantism has no official teachings, but the many sects have a wide assortment of views each deems to be correct. The Catholic Church is bound to the same doctrine throughout the world, even if some would like to deny this and mold the Church to conform to their views, as some liberal Catholics do.

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Why does the Catholic Church claim to have been constantly persecuted when since Constantine 'till recent years it was a dominant power, friend with Kings and Emperors in most of Western Europe and tolerated in all of Europe? I mean, there was some persecution under the Commies, would have been under the Nazis but a concordat was signed and besides a few dissidents, the Church itself wasn't persecuted, tribal rulers and China, but for most of its history, the Catholic Church has been a dominant power capable of shaping the future of the world, and indeed it shaped it.

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Newish to Christianity

Ive considered myself christian most of my life but never really delved into it at all. I don't know much outside of the basic beliefs and morals. I want to learn more, is reading the bible a good start? Are there any youtube channels I can just kinda listen to while playing vidya that talk about Christianity, its values, beliefs, etc.?

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How do I convince my pastor that Jews are disgusting?

My Pastor is a really nice goy but he doesn't seem to be aware that Jews are evil In John 8:44 Jesus said to some Jews claiming Abraham is their father "(((You))) are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires.". Not all Jews are evil but most notable evil people are Jewish. Does anyone have any proof from credible sources about Jewish corruption in banks, media politics etc.

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Vatican Diplomat Arrested on Child Porn Suspicions…

Vatican Arrests Former Diplomat After Child Pornography Probe


VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The Vatican said on Saturday its police had arrested a monsignor who worked as a diplomat at its embassy in Washington and is suspected of possessing child pornography in the United States and Canada. A statement identified the accused as Msgr. Carlo Alberto Capella and said he was arrested earlier on Saturday in the Vatican after a warrant was issued by the Holy See's chief magistrate at the end of an investigation. The Vatican statement said Capella, who was recalled from the Vatican embassy in Washington last August, was arrested according to articles of a 2013 law signed by Pope Francis. The articles cited by the statement related to child pornography. If indicted, the monsignor will have to stand trial in the Vatican and faces up to 12 years in jail. The scandal is the latest blow to the Catholic Church as it struggles to overcome repeated sex abuse cases among its clergy. Francis has declared zero tolerance over abuse scandals that have beset the Church for decades, but critics say he has not done enough, particularly to hold bishops responsible for mishandling or covering up abuse. The State Department notified the Holy See in August of a possible violation of laws relating to child pornography images by a member of the diplomatic corps of the Holy See accredited to Washington, the Vatican said in September.

A State Department spokesman said in September that the United States had requested that the man's diplomatic immunity be waived to open the way for possible prosecution there but the Vatican refused. Capella entered the diplomatic corps in 2004 and before serving in Washington he held diplomatic posts in Hong Kong and Italy. It was not possible to reach Capella, who the Vatican said was being held in a cell in the Vatican's police barracks. After Capella was recalled to Rome, police in Windsor, Canada said they had issued an arrest warrant for him on suspicion of possessing and distributing child pornography on the internet. A statement by Canadian police at the time said the suspected offences occurred while he was visiting "a place of worship" in Canada. The recalling and arrest of Capella was the worst involving a diplomat since the case in 2013 of former Archbishop Jozef Wesolowski, who was Polish. Wesolowski faced charges of paying boys for sexual acts, downloading and buying paedophile material while he was the Vatican's ambassador in the Dominican Republic. He was recalled to Rome by the Vatican, arrested, and stripped of his duties after a report by Dominican media led to an investigation by Dominican magistrates. He died in hospital in 2015 at the age of 67 before his trial before a Vatican court could begin.

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imageboard outreach ministry

I think it would be a nice idea if there was an active imageboard outreach ministry. Like if you like going to places like 4chan /pol/, /r9k/ etc that get a lot of traffic or other boards that would be somewhat amenable to threads about Jesus, search the catalog and see if there's a thread about God in there already and bump it. Maybe even try to keep a "Christianity general" thread going if you can, or if not just post something like "Jesus loves you!" because maybe the anons reading that have never heard someone say that to them and really mean it. This is already happening because of passionate anons like sharing the good news, I just thought it would be nice if those of us who are passionate about evangelization could think about it this way, as a ministry we're part of together. Let's fish for men, I want to see all of my internet brothers in heaven some day!

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Primate Of Nigeria Nicholas Okoh Is Urging Followers To Be ‘Steadfast’ Against Pressure To Compromise ‘The Unchanging Truth Of The Gospel.’


The Global Anglican Future Conference prides itself as a “global family of authentic Anglicans standing together to retain and restore the Bible to the heart of the Anglican Communion,” and now it’s leader is warning his followers to stand fast. GAFCON’s chairman, Primate of Nigeria Nicholas Okoh, last weekend wrote, in part:

“Some of you face challenges such as persecution, disease, communal strife and food insecurity. Some have to struggle with less physically threatening problems which can still be very hard as you are marginalized because of your faithfulness and those who were once friends draw back from you. But in all these circumstances the resurrection of Jesus from the dead assures us that despite the sins, confusions, suffering and setbacks that are part of our experience now, ultimate victory is certain. “GAFCON is a movement which lives by this power of resurrection hope. We are determined to be steadfast and immovable in the face of great pressures to compromise the unchanging truth of the gospel, whether through money or seductive calls to unity which are based merely on shared history rather than shared truth. “More than that, by God’s grace we shall not just stand, but flourish. Some of you may feel that you are weak and insignificant in your stand for orthodox faith compared to those who enjoy the favors compromise seems to bring, but we can have complete confidence that our work is not in vain if it is done in reliance on his resurrection power at work in our lives through the Holy Spirit.”

Okoh concluded that hope sustains GAFCON “for the long haul.” He said reformation will take time, and the fruit of their labors may not be seen in their lifetimes, but it is important to keep standing strong.

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If all sins are forgiven before the lord, why shouldn't I just fuck around my entire life and only ask for forgiveness at the last possible second, thus getting all the benefits of a hedonistic lifestyle along with getting to go to heaven immediately afterwards?

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> Yeah the Old Testament is full of stuff that didn’t actually happen

> But the New Testament is definitely true

How can anyone believe this? If you don’t believe in the Fall, then why believe Christ came to save us? If you don’t believe that God’s wrath killed everyone except Noah and his family, why should we fear God’s judgement today?

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World War 3.

Since World War 3 is right around the corner with the whole Syria situation, and thus the soon to be second advent of Christ and complete end of the world as we know it, I thought I'd just post this song. Be ready boys, the reapers and coming, for the harvest is ripe! The weeds will be burned up in the fire, but the wheat will be reaped up unto eternal life.

Come Lord, come! Send your fiery wrath over the whole earth and avenge your saints who have been slain for your holy name!

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Hey, brothers and sisters in Christ.

Just stopping by to tell you, I love you.

Disclaimer: Accompanying image doesn't serve the function of an avatar. I don't percieve myself as a anime character/female nor do I intend to play such role.

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Heard this is the best (((scholarly))) introduction to the NT

Is that so?

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Catholic Church proposes new synod on women


Why can I already predict what will happen?

>doesn't make clear whether women can serve as deacons/priests the same way Amoris Laetitia is vague and unclear

>liberal bishops in Germany and Latin America start ordaining women deacons

>Vatican ignores this until it reaches critical mass

>there are so many women deacons now that the Vatican just says 'well we can't allow them to be outside the church ¯\_(ツ)_/¯'

>RCC now has women deacons, in a few years the next liberal Pope (likely Parolin) sweeps aside JP II's statements and formally allows women priests

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Any SSPX Tradcats or sedes here?

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Bishop Barron on the Jordan Peterson Phenomenon

"Like many others, I have watched the Jordan Peterson phenomenon unfold with a certain fascination. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, you don’t spend a lot of time on social media, for Peterson, a mild-mannered psychology professor from the University of Toronto, has emerged as one of the hottest personalities on the internet."

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Is anyone else worried about the possible rise of paganism? I know a lot of people say that it's just an extra edgy fringe sect of fedora faggotry but I'm afraid it could catch on. It wouldn't be difficult to convert our modern culture that revolves around narcissism and debauchery to a religion that revolves around narcissism and debauchery.

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Orthodoxy is the only way.

To all the Latins, Anabaptists, Monophysites, Nestorians, and Ecumenist heretics on this board, know that /christian/ is an Orthodox board. Christ founded Orthodoxy, and there is no salvation outside of the Orthodox Church.


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Why are christians so vocal against gay marriage, controlled parenthood, sex outside marriage, etc? I'm a catholic myself and I fully oppose gay marriage among catholics, but the secular society doesn't believe in God in the first place. I mean, Jesus said we shouldn't cast the pearls before the swine, which are the stubborn and impenitent fellow christians. Therefore, pushing for christian values in a secular society is even dumber than casting pearls before the swine. I think we shouldn't waste our energy to teach those who don't even want to listen, just move on to something more important.

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I made a script to remove pornography!!!

I made a user script for people who do not want to see pornographic advertisements on the main page and any other board. The only exception is banners but I will continue to remove all instances of inappropriate images on this site.

>tfw thx for no porn

To use the script install "Tampermonkey" for Firefox, or "Greasemonkey" for Chrome. Next, go to (https://github.com/Druw2000/src/tree/master/scripts/delete-ads) and copy the contents of one".user.js" file. After that, click your extension's icon in the top right, click add script, and paste the contents of the file. Find "save," and do the previous steps for the other script. If you have any questions feel free to ask me here. I hope you guys appreciate this help, god bless.

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Why is fornication a sin? I understand one night stands are morally wrong but what’s wrong with sex in a straight monogamous relationship before marriage?

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When did you realise that being a NEET is a sin?

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Macron Thread

Is he the great king of the north that was promised in the book of Daniel ?

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Pat Buchanan on Bergoglio's alleged heresy


…If Francis made such a statement, it would be rank heresy.

Had the pope been speaking ex cathedra, as the vicar of Christ on earth, he would be contradicting 2,000 years of Catholic doctrine, rooted in the teachings of Christ himself. He would be calling into question papal infallibility, as defined in 1870 by the Vatican Council of Pius IX.

Questions would arise as to whether Francis is a true pope.

The Vatican swiftly issued a statement saying the pope had had a private conversation, not a formal interview, with his friend Scalfari.

The Vatican added: “The textual words pronounced by the pope are not quoted. No quotation of the aforementioned article must therefore be considered as a faithful transcription of the words of the Holy Father.”

Sorry, but this will not do. This does not answer the questions the pope raised in his chat. Does hell exist? Are souls that die in mortal sin damned to hell for all eternity? Does the pope accept this belief? Is this still the infallible teaching of the Roman Catholic Church?…

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Is it bad that...

Is it bad that sometimes I want to burn down a Mormon Temple and light the Book of Mormon on fire and vandalize their churches? I don't hate Mormons, but their blasphemous doctrines just piss me off so fucking much. I want to smash and destroy nearly everything they hold to be "sacred."

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Christian Music General

Post your based Christian music

And none of that stupid medieval chants

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Thread Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tr0otuiQuU

I see the end coming. This generation will not pass until all these things have been done. Who else here is consumed by the sorrow of the eventuality coming for this society which is doomed for hellfire?

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What the difference between being "God's chosen people", and thinking that your race is the "Master Race"?

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Wallpaper Thread

Can we have some Christian themed wallpaper?

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Ultra conservative churches/parishes in Germany

Hey /christians/, me and my friend plan to attend at an ultra conservative church/parish tomorrow because there is none in our city. We'd go even as far as travelling a couple hundred kilometers just to visit one and to see what it is like. Problem is that no google skills let me find one. So, this is my last resort writing to you, guys, asking for help in this matter.

As we all know Europe is way worse off than the US in this regard but luckily we live in the South, so Baden-Württemberg and Bayern (Bavaria), home of many Catholic Germans, are great oppurtunities. I suppose to find such would only go through word of mouth, so, is there anyone of you who can recommend us in which town/village and church/parish to go?

Many thanks in advance.

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What are some christian dreams you have had

What are some christian dreams you have had could be sad, angry, happy, funny

One type is whenever there is a nightmare or something scary me in the dream always has the ability to call on jesus and say the our father prayer and it ends and i feel fine

Heres another dream

>in southern USA

>Me and jesus outside of some mission style church that is covered in black and purple ooze

>im wearing a red rob and he is wearing a white one

>We end up shooting light out of our sleeves melting all the ooze off and killing black figures

>The church is saved and it was sunny after

another dream

>Jesus and I are riding in an elevator up 1000 stories

>We get out and we are in this garden

>In my dream the flashing tree of life is going off (this is the first time i have seen the tree of life and it was in my dream)

>Jesus says for me to follow him and I wake up

a couple weeks later i found out what the tree of life was and it was interesting

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The constitution is unbiblical and more free than Christianity

>freedom of religion

>kill the unbelievers

Choose one.

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Orthodox Easter

Χριστός ἀνέστη!

Хрїстосъ воскресе!

Христос воскрес!

ⲠⲓⲬⲣⲓⲥⲧⲟⲥ ⲁϥⲧⲱⲛϥ!


!ܫܪܝܪܐܝܬ ܩܡ

Hristos a înviat!

Christ is risen!

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The Abrahamic religions

I have questions about the differences between them and what happend to them. Christians and Muslims pray the same god. From my point of view when Christianity became the religion of Rome, first of all, it was an instrument of propaganda and supranational intelligence services of ancient times and faith aspects became manipulation instruments, and it turns to paganism with a cult of saints. Islam was answer that clean all those things. But lately, it became fiction when people it's about traditions and doesn't understand what it, orthodox Islamists call them hypocrites and they close to the truth.I have questions about the differences between them. Christians and Muslims pray the same god. From my point of view when Christianity became the religion of Rome, first of all, it was an instrument of propaganda and supranational intelligence services of ancient times and faith aspects became manipulation instruments, and it turns to paganism with a cult of saints. Islam was answer that clean all those things. But lately, it became fiction when people it's about traditions and doesn't understand what it, orthodox Islamists call them hypocrites and they close to the truth.

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How do you actively discern for marriage? I want to enter religious vocation but people have told me to explore all my options, (and I think that would solidify my position towards celibacy as well). Thing is I have minimal contact with the other sex, and for the most part my interactions consist of discord vc and the occasional chat with my cousin. The last time I spoke in person to them I remember my hands visible shaking from fear. I'm not sure if I should be discerning religious vocation or just focus on discerning general vocation. What do I do /christian/ ?

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Coptic Christianity vs other denominations

I was wondering if a more learned anon could help me understand the difference of Coptic Christianity compared to say Orthodox, Catholicism, etc. While visiting Egypt I was able to explore some very ancient Christian settlement buildings and it was shocking to see their homes/neighborhoods/workshops nestled right next to the Ramesseum. There is a small percentage of Christians left in Egypt, often subject to peaceful bombings.

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Sunday Thread!

Happy Sunday /Christian/! How was Mass/Divine Liturgy/Church for you today?

I went to a Greek Catholic Church church today to see what the Divine Liturgy was like, I thought it was beautiful but definitely not for me. I feel a little guilty for not being at my regular Parish today.

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What is your views on Veggietales?

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Wanting to enlist, but where?

Hey there. I'm thinking of joining the military. I'm 21, male, and I'm from Texas. What should I expect. I've gotten the shilling from the recruiters, but at the end of the day, I still don't fully know what I want to do. Any guidance?

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I want to be a good, pious Christian but I'm also really into the occult and esotericism. What do?

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flagellation and mortification

anybody here recommend some more extreme versions of self-discipline? I fast already but I am curious about people's opinions on cilice and hairshirts.

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Why is Christian music so cringy?

Why is Christian music so cringy?

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Why is he a Calvinist?

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Soulwinning thread

Proverbs 11:30 The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise.

I don't didn't see a thread about soulwinning in the catalog. Post tips or stories related to soulwinning.

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Father James Martin

yes, *that* James Martin, posted an entirely orthodox article defending the teachings of the Church regarding homosexuality

i-is he gonna become /ourguy/?

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Were the crusades justified in the eyes of God, or were they sinful?

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Hello. Gentile Christian here. I don’t follow the law of Moses. Acts 15 is proof for me. And besides, since I am not an Israelite, this seems to be the logical conclusion. Thoughts?

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how do you convince atheists that without God there's no morality, justice or purpose to anything? And that their whole worldview presupposes a transcendent, immaterial intelligence, or conscious ordering principle, at some level….

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I have just realized why the people of Israel were not allowed to racemix. It is wicked. Why didn’t Jesus warn people about this specifically?

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Orthodox Pascha

My friends, today I was Chrismated into the Orthodox Church. I hope you're all having a wonderful weekend as I am, and the Pascha service tonight is great for you too!

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Webm Thread

Anyone have that webm of pastor Anderson saying not to be ashamed of the bible? Also webm thread.

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I know Mormonism is 100% bullshit, but still find myself a little jealous of their way of life/community. I think what I want is a Christianity that is communal to the borderline of cult-like without any of the wacky heresies.

Is this insane?

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Why did God Bless The United Kingdom?

The United Kingdom of and The British Empire rose to the height of their power and dominion AFTER their schism from Rome.

How then, from a Catholic perspective, can one explain how God appears to have blessed the English with such greatness, despite their severance from The Church?

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Atheists less criminal than Christians?

How would you respond to this? For comparison the percentage of Americans who identify as atheist are around 3%, Christians are around 83%. So it seems atheists are greatly underrepresented among criminals, and Christians are only slightly underrepresented. Why would this be?

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SURVEY: Third Of Millennials Aren't Sure Earth Is Round…

A Third Of Millennials Aren’t Sure The Earth Is Round, Survey Finds


A new survey has found that a third of young millennials in the U.S. aren’t convinced the Earth is actually round. The national poll reveals that 18 to 24-year-olds are the largest group in the country who refuse to accept the scientific facts of the world’s shape. YouGov, a British market research firm, polled 8,215 adults in the United States to find out if they ever believed in the “flat Earth” movement. Only 66 percent of young millennials answered that they “always believe the world is round.” Science teachers across the U.S. will be shaking their heads after learning that nine percent of young adults answered that they have “always believed” the planet was flat.

Another nine percent said of young adults said they thought the planet was spherical but had doubts about it. In a disturbing display of indecision, 16 percent of millennials said they weren’t sure what the shape of the planet was. Overall, only two percent of the respondents said they always thought the Earth was flat without any doubt. YouGov found that age was directly connected to Americans’ views on the shape of the world. Seventy-six percent of adults age 25-34 say they’ve always believed the Earth is round, compared to 82 percent of ages 35-44, 85 percent of ages 45-54, and 94 percent of adults 55 and over. Income seemed to play a role in people’s beliefs as well. Ninety-two percent of adults making over $80,000 believed the Earth is round, compared to only 79 percent of adults making under $40,000.

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Prophetic dream warns of American citizens arrested by UN police

On March 31 2018, I had a dream that was very similar to one I had several years ago. Due to the violent nature of the dream, I debated whether or not to share it. After waiting on God, I feel an urgency to do so.


In the dream, I was walking down the street on a regular sunny day, nothing out of the ordinary. Suddenly, a squad of UN police appeared, flooding the streets and sidewalks on motorcycles, allowing them to easily navigate through the crowds. One of them cut me off and commanded me to come with him. I was confused because I was a law-abiding American citizen, so I said, “What? You’ve got to be kidding!” He answered, “If you don’t, you WILL BE SHOT.” I just stood there, knowing there was no escape. I felt isolated, trapped, and horrendously betrayed by our government. Then I woke up.


I believe this is to be taken literally. In around 2005, I had a similar dream of being taken prisoner by foreign soldiers. The fact that this is my second one of its kind is significant. I believe God is drawing extra emphasis to this scenario and warning of its closeness. This is not to say that everyone will be taken prisoner, but Revelation 13:9 clearly indicates that some will be. Moreover, for the past few weeks in my spirit, I have been alerted to some kind of pre-planned attack coming upon the American people unawares, which also seems close-at-hand. This feeling continues to grow stronger. God is saying the time is NOW to make a SOLID DECISION to completely submit ourselves, spirit, soul and body, to Christ as LORD. Before these things begin, we must already have made the decision to not compromise, come what may. God is merciful, not wanting any to perish. For all who sincerely draw near to Him in earnest submission, repentance and humility, He has promised to draw close with His power and grace, to be everything we need for every circumstance. (See James 4:7-10). Again, He promises, “Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.” (Ephesians 5:14).

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Is it actually happening?!?!?

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Non-Religion Has Replaced Christianity as the Default in Europe

Christianity has declined so significantly in Europe, that to be non-religious may now be considered the default. A new survey of young adults across Europe allows some insight into the situation

>The survey of 16- to 29-year-olds found the Czech Republic is the least religious country in Europe, with 91% of that age group saying they have no religious affiliation. Between 70% and 80% of young adults in Estonia, Sweden and the Netherlands also categorize themselves as non-religious.

>The most religious country is Poland, where 17% of young adults define themselves as non-religious, followed by Lithuania with 25%.

>In the Czech Republic, 70% said they never went to church or any other place of worship, and 80% said they never pray. In the UK, France, Belgium, Spain and the Netherlands, between 56% and 60% said they never go to church, and between 63% and 66% said they never pray.

>Among those identifying as Catholic, there was wide variation in levels of commitment. More than 80% of young Poles say they are Catholic, with about half going to mass at least once a week. In Lithuania, where 70% of young adults say they are Catholic, only 5% go to mass weekly.

Muslims are on the verge of overtaking Anglicans

>In the UK, only 7% of young adults identify as Anglican, fewer than the 10% who categorize themselves as Catholic. Young Muslims, at 6%, are on the brink of overtaking those who consider themselves part of the country’s established church.

But as a whole, religion is dying in Europe

>"Religion was “moribund”, he said. “With some notable exceptions, young adults increasingly are not identifying with or practizing religion.” The trajectory was likely to become more marked. “Christianity as a default, as a norm, is gone, and probably gone for good – or at least for the next 100 years,”

Interestingly, Nations geographically close to each other often have very different levels of religiosity.

>But there were significant variations, he said. “Countries that are next door to one another, with similar cultural backgrounds and histories, have wildly different religious profiles."


Chart of indentifying with religion


Chart of attending religious services


Chart of frequency of prayer


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Post verses from the Bible that will really make me think

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Why are Atheists so resistant to even entertaining the notion that God exists? I'm a former Atheist myself and even I don't understand that mentality. It's as though they WANT God to not be real. Why?

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I'm apart of the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Hey /christian/, been lurking here for a few, decided to actually post something now.

I was raised by a single mom who is apart of the Jehovah's Witnesses. It's really been my entire life tbh. I never really had fun as a kid since we couldn't do holidays and life eventually came to be only about knocking on doors and studying the Bible.

I was taught that we were the only actual Christians and that every other group who claimed to be Christians were actually Pagans in disguise who appropriated some Christian beliefs and mixed it with Paganism. I was told that only Jehovah God loved us and that he hated everyone else. I remember one time at a Kingdom Hall meeting, when I was just a little kid, one of the Elders during a Bible discourse had brought in a small wooden cross and told everyone that it was an idolatrous symbol and then he broke it in half and began preaching from the Bible against the cross.

It was really tiring for my mom. All she did was work, then immediately after go knock on doors to evangelize people. No breaks are allowed, not even when you're sick. I got sucked into it too more fully once I was baptized at age 12. Even my school life was really affected because I was so focused on the Jehovah's Witnesses and I almost didn't graduate high school.

Now I'm here, still really active in the organization. I've been looking into other forms of Christianity though and even other religions and I've been feeling a pull towards mainstream Christianity more than anything. My life just feels so under control right now and I don't think I can do this anymore. But if I leave I will be severely excommunicated and my mother and siblings and all my friends will shun me. My family will literally hate me and all my old friends will hate me. I will never have contact with them again since I will be disfellowshipped. My mom will kick me out of the house and the job I'm working is really shit and I will become homeless. What do I do? Please, I'm seeking answers here guys.

I do also have some questions about mainstream Christianity too if you guys wouldn't mind answering.

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What are some occupations/careers where you serve humanity. I was thinking physical therapist, but med school seems to be a meme. Peace Corps, Social Worker? Any Ideas?

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Why do I relate to /r9k/ more than you /christian/ even though I'm a believer? Screw this board, screw you all

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Why are modern Orthodox such Chinaboos?

It's a weird thing I've noticed. They all like "Christ the Eternal Tao," and I've seen multiple Orthodox post about the Tao Te Ching on this board. I remember one time being in a thread where an Orthodox flag posted about the Tao Te Ching, and I responded with something like "I've seen you before, Orthodox Taoposter" (something along those lines) and he responded with something like "you're mistaken, I've never posted about the Tao before" and then ANOTHER Orthodox poster came in saying he's posted about the Tao before and I was probably thinking of him. (This all happened maybe a few months ago).

I finished reading David Bentley Hart's New Testament, he says the only Bible that comes close to properly rendering "logos" (word in English Bibles) is a Chinese translation which renders it "Tao."

I was listening to Hank Hanegraaff the Bible Answer Man's conversion story to Eastern Orthodoxy, he says one of the big things that inspired him to convert was an evangelical trip to China where he saw the love they had for Christ.

This all is doubly weird for me, because I'm kinda a Chinaboo and I'm considering converting to Eastern Orthodoxy (but not one as a result of the other). It's a really weird coincidence for me. Does liking China make you like the Eastern Orthodox, or does being Eastern Orthodox make you like China? It seems to go both ways, Hank Hanegraaff likes Orthodoxy because of China, and David Bentley Hart likes China because of Orthodoxy. I just like the two separately, neither one impacted my view. I can't speak of these Orthodox Taoposters, I don't know what order they came to it.

What's going on?

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Please help me with my terrible discipline

Hey /christian !

In this thread I'd like to ask you guys to help me (and maybe each other) developing greater discipline and a healthy work-ethic.

My problem is that whenever I decide to do something it takes enormous effort to get going and when I did my part for the day I often go for weeks feeling like "I did my part" and I don't put any more effort into things. This eventually comes back to bite me in the butt.

This affects absolutely everything in my life, but the most crucial problem is my university studies. I'm paying my own way because I have a job, but I've been stagnating in college for years now.

Any tips?

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I don't believe in god anymore but i want to say to /christian/ to keep fighting. Because you are good guys.

I give up. I'm not a child of god I'm just the mass. God bles you.

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How do I turn my brain off? I try to be Christian and I just get caught in a neurotic cycle of thought. This has ended in me staring upon The Bible in complete horror. I think I come very close to committing the unpardonable sin just by thinking. I want the thoughts to end.

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Should I become Amish?

I know there is a community not too far from me, and I studied German so learning Pennsylvania Dutch shouldn't be that hard for me. Everything about their life style seems just so right. I am really considering joining them, even if it means giving the internet and you guys up forever. I just want to devote my life to Christ. Should I join them /christian/?

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Pray for the community in /lds/, or the Mormons.

They're trapped in a borderline slave-like shaming cult and many people are escaping it and tearing it apart in subreddits and in internet leaks.

There's even heavy censorship in a fucking 8chan board.


If Islam is a death cult, Mormonism seems like a psychological torture club.

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On pedophilia

We all know God hates sin, not the sinner, we also know that he gives up on reprobate minds, wont this be a justification to castrate yourself voluntary if you are a pedophile?

We know society is obsessed with blacks and the first thing that comes to their mind when someone is a pedophile that despite him doing nothing the best punishment is to subject him to be raped by blacks, this is fucking absurd, you punish a man that has done nothing, yet you give a prize to another man just because he is big and strong and brown skinned?

Anyways, this mean that castration must become 100% confidential as well due to witch-hunts.

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Bible downloads Banned in China - BBC News

>In recent years, as Chinese authorities cracked down on underground services as part of broader restrictions on religious groups…

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Race Realism and Inferiority

As a Hispanic, I have a question that's been tormenting my mind for a long time. Why did God make it so that other races are blatantly inferior to whites in terms of intelligence? Why did Europeans have the ability to create powerful nations while Africans and other races essentially played catch up? Why are other races statistically more violent than whites? Is their any hope of life success for someone like me who is inherently less intelligent? I apologize if the answer is pretty obvious, I'm admittedly ignorant on the Bible despite seeing myself as a Christian.

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Justin Bieber reminds his followers 'Easter is not about a bunny'



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Navy chaplain fired after caught on video having sex at bar…

The Marines fired Navy Capt. Loften Thornton on March 20 for “loss of trust and confidence”


WASHINGTON — A Navy chaplain was fired last month from his post at a Marine Corps command after he was caught on video having sex with a woman at a pub in New Orleans, USA TODAY has learned. Thornton had been chaplain for Marine Forces Reserve based in New Orleans. Wong declined to discuss what prompted the Marines to fire Thornton, a Navy chaplain since 1992. But two Defense officials confirmed that authorities were examining video that shows Thornton having sex with a woman at the Crown & Anchor Pub, a British-themed tavern west of the French Quarter. They were not authorized to speak on the record because the case is under investigation.

The owner of the pub, Neil Timms, said the incident took place in front of the pub by the road near some picnic tables. Timms is cooperating with authorities, he said. The bar is a five-minute drive from the Marine Reserve facility. Thornton did not respond to a request for comment, and a Navy official said he was not available. The “Marine Corps takes all allegations against any of our Marines or sailors seriously, and they are thoroughly investigated,” Wong said.

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Miss Liturgy 3 times = Excommunicated?

Thinking of going Ortho until I heard this. Is this for real? I sometimes have to work a lot of Sunday's. Will I really be excommunicated for missing 3 in a row?

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Is it morally ethical for Christians to take compounds just to lower their compulsion towards lust? we hear every trick in the book from priests: take a cold shower, exercise, fasting, contacting others, avoiding internet, etc & etc, yet many still have a tough time controlling ourselves, especially when they're teenagers.

The reason I ask is because when I was researching on Xanthohumol (from the Hop flower) for it's Ngf properties, I fell into this article http://www.newswise.com/articles/hops-compound-may-prevent-prostate-cancer

> Studies to date have shown that xanthohumol blocks the action of estrogen by binding to its receptor, which may lead to prevention of breast cancer.

Since testosterone receptors act similarly to that of estrogen…the researchers examined whether xanthohumol might not only block the effects of estrogen, but also of the male hormone androgen.

>xanthohumol still reduced the effects of hormone signaling

In short, It might stop or reduce the juices responsible for sexual arousal, thus any participate under xanthohumol may not experience high libido.

Even if I misunderstood the article, in general, is taking a nofap pill unwise in your mind? Please share what's on your mind.

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Blessed Virgin Mary thread


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To The Glory of God

What do you feel is holding you specifically back from glorifying God with your entire life? Whether it's a weakness, circumstance, or just poor decisions. Even if it doesn't seem spiritual, tell your brothers here about it.

If you have some wisdom or knowledge relating to another anon's issue, help him out.

Let's bear one another's burdens and help each other to live more fully and according to our purpose.

This is something we should be doing continually anyway.

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Our society has fallen back into paganism and idolatry of sex, says papal preacher

>If Catholic morality in the past seemed so obsessed with preventing sexual sin that it ignored sins of injustice, today “we have gone to the opposite extreme,” seemingly concerned only with how people treat others, not with how they treat the gift of their bodies, the papal preacher said.

>“In the past, morality emphasised the sins of the flesh so unilaterally that it led to real neuroses at times, to the detriment of concern for the duties toward our neighbour and to the detriment of the virtue of purity itself,” Capuchin Father Raniero Cantalamessa told Pope Francis and members of the Roman Curia.

>On the Fridays of Lent and Advent, Father Cantalamessa leads reflections for the Pope and his aides in the Redemptoris Mater Chapel of the Apostolic Palace. For the final Lenten meditation of 2018, he spoke on March 23 about the virtue of purity.

>“Every day, people tend to contrast sins against purity with sins against a neighbour and to consider just the sin against a neighbour a real sin,” he said.

>But the two go together, the Capuchin insisted. “Purity and love of neighbour represent dominion over self and the gift of self to others. How can I give myself if I do not possess myself but am a slave to my passions?

>“It is an illusion to think that we can combine genuine service to brothers and sisters, which always calls for sacrifice, altruism, forgetting ourselves and generosity, with a life that is personally disordered, all aimed at pleasing oneself and satisfying one’s passions,” Father Cantalamessa said. “It inevitably ends in using brothers and sisters, just as one uses one’s body. Those who cannot say ‘no’ to themselves cannot say ‘yes’ to brothers and sisters.”

>The virtue of purity involves self-control, including in eating, speaking, looking and in sexuality, he said. But the Christian motivation that makes it a virtue does not lie in strength alone, rather, as the First Letter to the Corinthians explains that “it is not permitted to sell oneself or to use oneself just for one’s own pleasure for the simple reason that we no longer belong to ourselves; we are not our own but Christ’s. We cannot decide how to use something that does not belong to us.”

>But today, “we live in a society, in terms of morals, that has fallen back into full-blown paganism and full-blown idolatry of sex,” the 83-year-old preacher told the Pope and Curia officials.

>“The daily news of abuses and scandals in this field, including among members of the clergy and religious, are there to remind us of this bitter reality,” he said.

>Father Cantalamessa said he was not calling for a return to “a purity based on fear, taboos, prohibitions and men and women avoiding each other as if the other is always necessarily a snare and a potential enemy rather than a help.”

>The response, he said, is to “do something new” at the prompting of the Holy Spirit. “He is asking us to bear witness to the world to the original innocence of creatures and things.”


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>Far cry 5 ending triggering SJWs and Atheists

Anti-christian propaganda backfiring gloriously.

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What does /christian/ think of this practice?

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Orthodox or Catholicsm

I ask sincerely. I'm deeply moved to convert from atheism to Christianity but unsure whether Orthodox or Catholic branches are where I should proceed (Protestantism seems inherently degenerate).

I live in Western Australia and there are branches of both sects here. I'm continuing to study and read from both but I would appreciate current practitioner's advice, anecdotes or stories.

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Isaiah: "The Little Bible"

What do you guys think of this, is it true or a coincidence? Also this would disprove the meme books being scripture.


The Book of Isaiah has 66 chapters, and this number is significant because there are 66 books in the Bible. I’ve heard it said that the chapters in Isaiah actually mirror the books of the Bible, and I have found this to be true based on my own personal study. I haven’t found all of the correlations because some are stronger than others, but here are just a few examples that I hope will spark your interest and motivate you to do your own reading.

Isaiah 1: Genesis

First of all, in Isaiah Chapter 1 the heavens and the earth are mentioned–just like in Genesis Chapter 1. Also, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah is mentioned, which was also from Genesis.

Isaiah 5: Deuteronomy

The first time the Bible mentions Hell is in Deuteronomy, the fifth book of the Bible, and the first time Isaiah mentions Hell is in Chapter 5.

“Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.” –Isaiah 5:14

“For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.” –Deuteronomy 32:22

Isaiah 40: Matthew

It is interesting that Isaiah has a major gear change once you get to Chapter 40, which is the chapter that corresponds with the beginning of the New Testament. In fact, many Jewish rabbis I have spoken with and other Bible "scholars" wrongfully believe that Isaiah was written by two different people since chapters 1-39 are so different than chapters 40-66. John the Baptist is prophesied in Isaiah 40, verse 3, and he is also talked about in Matthew Chapter 3 (which quotes Isaiah 40).

Isaiah 45: Romans

In Isaiah Chapter 45, the potter and the clay analogy is used, and it comes up in again in the Book of Romans.

“Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?” –Isaiah 45:9

“Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?”—Romans 9:20-21

Isaiah 66: Revelation

Mentions the New Heaven and New Earth

Isaiah 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

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Catholic vs Orthodox - The Battle of Aesthetics

ITT lets post pics of catholic and orthodox aesthetics and see who wins. Protestants are also welcome to compete but I'm afraid when it comes to aesthetics this battle will be far out of your league.

t. that so called effeminate anime posting marian catholic celibate gnostic

All of you are also welcome to my server: /46G8u5

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catholic dooms day

Everyone keep your eyes open during May.

The holy chair will be no more

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Apostolic faith

Are there any good books on what the earliest Christians believed. And by that I mean the first couple decades after Christ's crucifixion e.g, 33ad-99ad? What heresies arose, what was the standard belief and just overall what they all had in common. Reason why I've been intrigued by this subject is because Josephus doesn't talk about Christians believing Christ was the Son of God. Anyways, don't let that derail the subjects. I'm just looking for some good quality, scholarly and we'll sources historical books on the very, very primitive Christian faith.

Thanks in advance.

God bless

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Universalism and Annihilationism - Explain why are they heresy

Ignatius of Antioch, Justin Martyr, and Irenaeus all alluded to some form of conditional immortality. Don't just dismiss that, think on it. John Wesley also alluded to it … albeit just once. Certain dyed-in-the-wool Anglicans, like John Stott, have given credence to it, if not full-throated support.

On the other side of the same coin of God-will-not-punish-for-eternity is the universalists whom Kallistos Ware says includes "several of the Fathers have none the less believed that in the end all will be reconciled to God." and, channelling them, some Orthanon here has posted repeatedly (and passionately) defences of the same idea. George MacDonald, whose fantasy works inspired Chesterton, Lewis and Tolkien, was also a universalist. D'Engle, whose novel is a film being released nowmaybedependingonwhereyoulive and who was also inspired by MacDonald, was also a defiant universalist.

Why is are these wrong?

Second to this, if everyone is eventually saved or annihilated anyway, why do the evangelisms or suffer this hellish Christian life? Why endure? What advantage is there in it if all are saved? Do we then embrace multi-tiered heavens like the Mormons do?

inb4 ur looking for an easy way out!

inb4 muh Pope says it is

inb4 heretic / troll / etc

Let's do this topic properly, shall we?

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Seven deadly Sins

Can any sin be forgiven? No matter how bad

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Christian Literature Request

Im working on a list of Christian Poetic narratives from all points in history, from anywhere geographically. Problem is, is I hit a wall, and ran out of narratives. You guys know any that I should add?

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God's Omnibenevolence and the Bible

Something that's caused me a bit of a religious crisis has been, obviously, the Problem of Evil. As we all know, God in the OT had a much more "violent" or "volatile" demeanor compared to the NT, but, in Scripture has God ever been characterized as all-loving or omnibenevolent?

If He does, then He makes it easy for man to understand his love and protection so adversity can be beaten, if He described it himself, showing himself as a much more personal and humane God

This is not the case in Nature (aka, natural disasters, human tragedy, chronic suffering, unjust death, disease), so basically, the problem of evil.

Interestingly - and pardon me for the example - but the Qur'an doesn't seem to describe God completely as omnibenevolent, and in the 99 Names of Allah the Islamic God is characterized with attributes as a Destroyer in a much more impersonal manner than the one we get to know with Christianity, making him an ambivalent God in which everything is already determined (In'shallah, aka, God willing…implying determinism?) and having more realistic attributes that are in par with what we know of how the world operates, in a volatile and not necessarily just manner.

It seems that both Gods do what they please, and are willing to intercede in prayer, but is omnibenevolence ever mentioned in the Bible, or is that just a popular belief given the loving attributes of Jesus Christ?

Does God cause good and evil for reasons we don't know?

Could this be an argument for believing that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are three different divine entities, making the Father ambivalent and the Son benevolent, as he atoned for our sins?

This thread is extremely convoluted, excuse me for that, as I'm drowsy in almost all my waking hours, but I need a sound argument against the Problem of Evil and injustice and how would Jesus allow such things to happen and be powerless against preventing them despite being omnipotent.

Also, rejoice, as He is risen!

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>We could create an AI with all the teachings of Christ. Or adding all the NT to it, so we could have direct answer to most of our questions. How heretical is this?

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>1. convince a bunch of people the earth is flat

>2. then convince them the bible is "a flat earth book"

>3. wait as commercial spaceflight becomes increasingly viable

>4. flat earthers realize earth's not flat, but still thinks flat earth is foundational bible teaching

>5. massive wave of people abandon the faith

Why didn't we see this coming?

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BREAKING: Pope Francis Facing Imminent Impeachment Over Heresy Charges

Pope accused of heresy over public assertions on the non-existence of hell


This shocking news and the risk of impeachment for Pope Francis has been confirmed by Antonio Socci, one of Italy’s leading Catholic journalists and a best-selling author, who is also the director on behalf of RAI, the Italian State owned TV of the advanced School of radiotelevision (RAI) journalism of Perugia. Socci stated that after the threat by the group of cardinals, who talked through their representative about two possible heresies commited by the Pope that could lead to violation of the Canon Law and his impeachment, Jorge Mario Bergoglio called His Excellency, Giovanni Angelo Becciu, Substitute of the Secretariat of State, now in charge of the Knights of Malta, and a trusted confidant of the Pope, for his advice.

Becciu told Bergoglio to retract these statements immediately, and last Thursday, the Holy See released an official statement on the non-validity of this interview with Scalfari, the third in recent years, whose past interviews where even included in official Vatican publications on the Pope, issued, of course, with Bergoglio’s direct approval, even when deemed controversial, to say the least. To save the Pope from this growing crisis that is affecting the identity of the Church, even Repubblica, one of Italy’s leading newspapers, founded by the same Eugenio Scalfari, ran an article today, Monday the 2nd of April 2018, by Piergiorgio Odifreddi, stating that everything Scalfari wrote about the Pope, should be dismissed.

In the meantime, the recent endorsement of Pope Francis by Pope Ratzinger in a falsified letter that has brought the resignation of Monsignor Dario Edoardo Viganò, Prefect of the Vatican’s Secretariat for Communication, in late March. The Pope is losing control of the Church, and in a growing fear of schism and possible scandals, he is trying desperately to find external support for his modernization of the Church, something Ratzinger categorically refused. Will the Pope eventually resign or will Bergoglio be impeached? Discontent in the Vatican grows every day, and signs of an imminent catastrophe seems to be around the corner.

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In celebration of Easter - Behold, The Man!

This 3D “carbon copy” of Jesus was created using the Shroud of Turin

"We believe that we have the precise image of what Jesus looked like on this earth," said Professor Giulio Fanti of the University of Padua.

"This statue is the three-dimensional representation in actual size of the Man of the Shroud, created following the precise measurements taken from the cloth in which the body of Christ was wrapped after the crucifixion,” explains Giulio Fanti, teacher of mechanical and thermal measurements at the University of Padua, who studies the Shroud. Based on his measurements, the professor has created a “carbon copy” in 3D which, he claims, allows him to affirm that these are the true features of the crucified Christ.

“Therefore, we believe that we finally have the precise image of what Jesus looked like on this earth. From now on, He may no longer be depicted without taking this work into account.” The professor granted exclusive coverage of his work to the weekly periodical Chi, to which he revealed: “According to our studies, Jesus was a man of extraordinary beauty. Long-limbed, but very robust, he was nearly 5 ft. 11 in. tall, whereas the average height at the time was around 5 ft. 5 in. And he had a regal and majestic expression.” (Vatican Insider)

Through the study and three-dimensional projection of the figure, Fanti was also able to count the numerous wounds on the body of the man of the Shroud:

“On the Shroud,” the professor explains, “I counted 370 wounds from the flagellation, without taking into account the wounds on his sides, which the Shroud doesn’t show because it only enveloped the back and front of the body. We can therefore hypothesize a total of at least 600 blows. In addition, the three-dimensional reconstruction has made it possible to discover that at the moment of his death, the man of the Shroud sagged down towards the right, because his right shoulder was dislocated so seriously as to injure the nerves.” (Il Mattino di Padova)

The questions surrounding the mystery of the Shroud are still intact; certainly, in that tortured man we see the signs of suffering in which we find also a piece of each one of ourselves, but also—seen by the eyes of faith—hope that this man was not just anyone, but the Man par excellence, that “Behold the Man” who appeared docilely before Pilate and who, after the terrible flagellation, was raised up on the cross as an innocent man; not only innocent, but taking upon himself the guilt of all people. While belief in the Shroud is not obligatory, even for Christians, the exceptionality of that piece of linen remains there to challenge our understanding and our certainties, almost like a certain Jesus of Nazareth, who challenged our certainties by loving his persecutors, forgiving them from the cross, and conquering death, 2,000 years ago …


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*blocks your path*

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Lies or Truth?

Are these people who die and say they go to hell telling the truth? Because if they are, then we are all screwed. By what they say, and how many apparent Christians go to hell, we are screwed because literally even being on 8chan by what they say is degenerate and that none of us are actually on the right path to heaven because we aren't true behaving Christians and that we live "our way" as a Christian.

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Ever notice this?

If you take to the time to read the Gospels you will notice that Jesus Christ took the time to condemn people who divorce and remarry (Matthew 19:9, Luke 16:18) but couldn't be bothered to give an opinion about slavery, even when confronted directly by it. (Luke 7:1-10 )

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First of all, I hope everyone has had a good Easter.

Due to some very poor life decisions I made when I was in high school I've basically become a NEET now.

I know I deserve it, and I take responsibility for all of my actions/decisions that lead me into the spot that I'm currently in right now.

Most days I just stay home, living with my parents, probably being as constant burden on them. I apply for jobs, but no one will hire me. :( Even if I did get a job, I don't know how long I'd last. I'm so fucking ugly guys… ever since I got picked on in middle school for my shit looks I've had really bad social anxiety. It doesn't help that since high school my face has become a fucking breeding ground for acne.

I have almost 0 friends save for 1 good friend that does still talk to me every so often. I did used to have a group of friends back in 10th grade. It was small band of kids but I felt close to them. But after I fucked up I lost most of my friends.

Through all of this I have still kept my faith. I do read the Bible often and have been trying to pray more in my daily life. God is the only real Father I have, and Jesus is the only teacher that I have.

I have suicidal thoughts often. I don't know if I have depression but the suicidal thoughts can be somewhat of a burden on my mind. I lay awake at night thinking about how my family would react if I took my own life.

Right now, I feel really suicidal. I am tempted to hang myself or go downtown and jump off a bridge… My life is so meaningless. I'm meaningless. I'm such a loser. I don't deserve to be alive. I'm ugly, I'm stupid, I'm lazy, I'm an asshole… I hate myself. I really really hate myself.

I look around, I see my cousins (who are of similar age or slightly younger) get their drivers license, get good jobs, start relationships, go to college… I know that if I had stayed on the right path and had not become a rebellious little retard then things would be better… I actually used to be an honors student in school until I fucked up and decided to ditch school because I was too lazy to go…

I balled my eyes out to God earlier, I told him that I loved him and that all I wanted is to be with him. I want to be in his bosom, with Abraham and the Virgin Mary and all the Saints. I know suicide is a mortal sin though. I simply don't want to be alive anymore though. I either want to go to heaven forever with God, or fade out of existence into nothingness, where there is total blackness for all eternity.

I don't know what to do guys… I am considering killing myself. Maybe just put a bag over my head and suffocate. Everyone in this world would be better off as I fade into nothingness having left nothing of value in this world…. They might be sad for a bit, but at least they won't have me being a total fucking burden and loser…

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There's nothing that turns me off from Christianity more these days than the attitude where a Christian, protestant or catholic, or whatever line you believe is true, are not willing to change their mind even if they are proven wrong. I'm not saying I'm not guilty of that. I've asked sincerely that God would break that attitude down in me because quite frankly I think everyone is that way. But it's tiresome. Why care? Why should I have a worldview period. I don't want to be religious. I don't want to be an atheist. After all if there's a god, goddess, or gods they're not as personal as many claim they are. Every cry returns void. I myself would rather settle down, divorce from the world, live as a recluse, and if fantasy would allow I'd settle down with a girl and we'd just live together and love and fuck not entertaining any form of worldview. In the end intellectual endeavors are just egotistical opportunities to place oneself over another. The Baptist that drinks is better than the Baptist that faps. The catholic that donates is better than the catholic that fasts. The protestant that believes predestination is better than freewill and vice versa. The atheist is smarter than the religious, and the religious are more enlightened than the heathen. Is there really a point to thinking?

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What to do with homosexuals in society

I've never been more disgusted as I have been discussing with homosexuals who are hellbent on destroying Christianity, insult and slander all Christians, and find them to really be amongst the worst of all humans alive. They have no morals, believe they are truly some persecuted noble people, meanwhile they destroy the very fabric of our society, attacking the family and all truth. Meanwhile they have on average of 50-100 sexual partners, create health risks trying to donate their disease ridden blood (there are loads of gay men who lie and donate blood cause they feel discriminated against) and so many other issues.

It's clear these people are so set in their ways and are probably almost unreachable to standard conversation and logic. What on earth do we do with this cancer that has been allowed to spread so much?

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Help Requested

Hello my fellow /christian/s. My sister just mentioned how she believes in reincarnation (I know). Naturally, I internally groaned, but how do I go about addressing this delicately? We had a small conversation about it but it somehow makes more sense for her to believe in "cycles" and not in a definite heaven/hell.

Please pray for her (and me so I do not slip up in pride or carelessness) and a very happy Easter to all.

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Best way to receive the Eucharist?

I know the valid ways but I want to know the superior way to receive.

If I'm at a novus ordo service and in the line in the aisle, can I get on both my knees to receive on the tongue?

How do people receive in the eastern, oriental and Assyrian rites?

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Would any of you be interested in a gaming IRC just for Christians? I've been using discord for awhile and it's just draining how awful some of the people are in the servers so I thought maybe a barrier to entry like being Christian and being on an IRC would make it less awful.

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I sinned today guys. I watched porn and masturbated. I didn't want to do it but I gave in to my lusts and did it anyway. It felt so wrong. I just cried in front of the mirror. I went to church anyway because I was feeling so miserable, but I didn't feel relieved just guilty and I couldnt take the communion. My family wondered why I ran away from the communion and my mother chased after me with tears in her eyes. I couldnt tell her why. Now we're all miserable and sad because the day of our Lord's resurrection is ruined. All because I sinned on this holy day.

This is such a DISGRACE Im so anxious and I feel the worst I have ever felt.

Can someone pray for me

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Let's Define What Modern Day Savagary Is

Christianity was founded at a time when most civilizations consisted of savages, and the purpose of Christianity is to fight against them. During Colonialism Christian Europe fought against savages on other continents and during Westward Expansion Christian America fought against savages in North America.

So I'm starting this thread to brainstorm properties of and define what modern day savagery is. Any form of degeneracy is barbaric, and Eugenics could be how The West in The 20th Century fought savagery. However Eugenics is highly suspect since it must be done for the purposes of nature instead of nurture and the purpose of defining savagery is to aid in nurture.

Instead of resisting degeneracy perhaps the goal should be phrased as realizing your actuality or full potential.

So you should have creative and intelligent hobbies which produce something.

Take care of your weight, hygiene and clean your room

Eliminate out of control addictions such as masturbation or substances

Be stronger than your urges

Be capable of intelligent thought and be able to construct a coherent argument

Be kind and honest

Be knowledgeable

Have s strong will

That's all I can think of for now.

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I feel like I'm being drawn towards christianity but it's for all the wrong reasons.

I was raised LCMS but drifted away from it in my teens and have called myself atheist/agnostic for a while. I'm feeling more and more drawn towards Catholicism or Orthodoxy but I feel like it's just because I'm seriously bothered by my inevitable mortality and I just want there to be something more.

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An informal society for the veneration of the Confederate Confessors

I'm sincerely thinking about trying to set up a society for Orthodox, Catholics, and High-Church Protestants to venerate Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, J. E. B. Stuart, and Jefferson Davis as unofficial or informal saints.

Of course this would entail the creation of:




>services, canons, etc.

for them and receiving priests' blessings for the creation and use of such things. I sincerely feel that these men deserve to be honored for their virtue and their great devotion to Christ.

What do you think? Is it worth doing? Is it heretical? Is it LARP-y?

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I'm a horrible christian that always falls into returning to the fetish community and crossdressing…

There is a lot of literal satanic stuff those people like to post and share. I don't know if it's them being edgy or if satan has a hand in it.

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What is the point of this kind of theology

What is the point of even having a religious belief like this?


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Imposter Pope

Thoughts on this? This probably would make sense with respect to St. Malachy's Prophecy of the Popes as this is the second time I've heard from a separate source that believes Pope Francis is simply a "placeholder" until the next (final) Pope comes along. Perhaps this is a good thing for Romans Catholics and for all Christians in general since we have more time so-to-speak.

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Why the antisemitism?

Why is this board so /pol/-tier sometimes? I thought we all grew out of /pol/ a long time ago. I did.

I agree that Rabbinic Judaism, with its Talmud, has strayed from the true message of God and doesn't truly know him. And I am personally against Zionism (though I suppose that should be left up to political opinion at the end of the day). Still, the Jewish people are only humans in sin who need saving like the rest of us.

The people of Judah, and Israel as a whole, have been going astray since the time of Moses; but there has always been a faithful remnant among them, even until this day. There are some Jews who accept Jesus as the Jewish Messiah, and Lord of the world. These are the faithful remnant of the Israelites, holding true to the covenant that their ancestors made with the Lord, and being invited into the new covenant.

Jesus was indeed a Jew, and he came for both Jew and Gentile. Christianity began as a sect of Judaism, but then many Gentiles began coming in because the prophets of Israel in the past predicted that the light of God would eventually come to the Gentiles. Rabbinic Judaism is an outgrowth of Pharisaic Judaism, which rejected the Lord and followed false traditions, and also made up the heretical Talmud later on; but before their hearts were hardened against God, and before their false traditions were fully introduced, they were sitting in the seat of Moses truly observing God's law. The faith of the Jews within itself, divorced from the false traditions and sinfulness of the Pharisees and Sadducees, is from God, and Jesus himself, being a religious Jew, came to fulfill it and rebuke the Jews who had strayed from God, and to save the world from sin.

We should be praying for the Jewish people, for the Church even teaches that at the end of times they will realize Jesus to be the Jewish Messiah, and come to him.

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Is there something that God and Jesus hate more than cartoons?

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Pontius Pilate and Judas Iscariot

was Pontius Pilate and Judas Iscariot forgiven for their sins and happy Easter

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Why aren't there any direct prayers to the Holy Spirit?

Or at least, I can't think of any. The Holy Spirit is a person, the Holy Spirit is God, so I don't see why people don't directly pray to him. There are prayers to the Father (like the Pater Noster) and there are prayers to the Son (like the Domine Iesu) but there aren't really a lot of prayers directly to the Holy Spirit. What's up with that?

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Threat of hell is real for not being faithful to God, pope says

>Death and final judgment before the Lord are not frightening if you live being faithful to God, Pope Francis said.

>“It will do us good to think about this: ‘Well, what will that day be like when I am before Jesus? When he will ask me about the talents he gave me, what I did with them,’” the pope said during morning Mass in the Domus Sanctae Marthae, where he lives.

>Reflecting on the day’s readings, including the responsorial psalm, the pope looked at the call of God: “Remain faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.”

>The Lord will come to judge the earth, Pope Francis said. However, some people don’t recognize that fact, deceiving themselves into thinking the end is nowhere in sight, and how they live on earth has no consequences after death, he said.

>“I remember when I was a boy, when I’d go to catechism they taught us four things: death, judgment, hell or glory - that after judgment there’s this possibility” of going to hell or sharing in God’s glory, the pope said.

>But the kids were incredulous, he said, telling the priest he was only saying those things to scare them.

>The priest, he said, insisted, “No, it’s true! Because if you do not take care of your heart so that the Lord is with you, and you always live far from the Lord, perhaps there is this danger, the danger of continuing to be distanced from the Lord for all of eternity.”

>Pope Francis said people have to reflect seriously about the kind of mark they will leave behind after they are gone.

>Also ask whether the fruit that seed produced was used for the good of all people or kept hidden away for one’s own benefit, the pope suggested.

>The Gospel says, “See that you not be deceived” by becoming alienated or estranged from God because of the flash or allure of superficial and worldly things, which includes “the deception of living as if you shall never die,” the pope said.

>When standing before the Lord, he asked, will people be ready and waiting or will they be unprepared, surrounded by distractions?

>“If each of us is faithful to the Lord, when death comes, we will say ‘Come, Sister Death,’ like St. Francis. It won’t frighten us,” he said.

>“When Judgment Day comes we will look at the Lord (and say), ‘Lord I have many sins, but I tried to be faithful.’ And the Lord is good” because he has given everyone this counsel: “Remain faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.”


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Fuck you Satan you little bitch. This is Easter season motherfucker and Jesus is my savior. You tried to tempt Jesus in the desert and he told you no. You try to tempt me into doing satanic things but I wont. Let Christ flow within you all today. Satan's a bitch.

Jesus you saved my life. Literally nothing else matters besides you.

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Happy Easter, cathbros!

Greetings from the East!

May the Resurrection of Christ find you in great spirit, and fill you with love.

See you in 7 days

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Korean-American YiChen Describes Himself As "The Man Child Of Revelation 12:5."


In a press release published today by the Religion News Service, a Korean-American who goes by the name YiChen describes his trip to Washington, D.C., to honor the late Rev. Billy Graham, and proclaims himself to be the “Son of Man” and the “Man Child of Revelation 12:5.” YiChen, who has a website titled Revelation Fulfilled, declared himself to be a “special man” who will “fulfill the Bible’s Book of Revelation” by eventually becoming the “Rider on the White Horse” mentioned in Revelation 19:11. He further stated that Graham’s world-renowned evangelical ministry was “The Fourth Great Awakening” that will prepare the U.S. and the world for the Second Coming of Christ.

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I found an interesting website that talks about some reasons why God can't actually exist. I haven't let anything like this change my beliefs but I also think it's a good idea as a Christian to discuss and think about the ideas in here and what's right/what's incorrect about the information in it.


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What was his problem?

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It's Good Friday.

>But He was wounded for our transgressions,

>He was bruised for our iniquities;

>The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,

>And by His stripes we are healed.

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Are there any real, theological differences between Orthodoxy and Sedevacantism? What do these two groups differ on, and how do they view each other?

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Why do you not keep the Sabbath?

Literally it's the 5th commandment. Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday and rose on the Sabbath day, yet some Christians for some reason worship on Sunday which is actually the day of the Roman solar deity. This practice was introduced by Emperor Constantine in 313 A.D.

Please, obey God and worship on the day he appointed which is from Friday to Saturday evening, which is the Sabbath day.

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The Veil

Should Christian girls wear traditional veils to Church as a sign of modesty, or is this an outdated tradition?

1 Cor 11:3-5: "But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God. Any man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonours his head, but any woman who prays or prophesies with her head unveiled dishonours her head – it is the same as if her head were shaven."

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Biblical Inerrancy

Protestant here. This is a long one, so strap in.

One of the common things you hear in Protestant circles is that the Bible is only 100% inspired in the "autographs," or originals. Basically, the idea is that the Hebrew/Greek manuscripts we have now are pretty good, but only the originals are completely without error. This idea is summed up in The Chicago Statement On Biblical Inerrancy:


"We affirm that inspiration, strictly speaking, applies only to the autographic text of Scripture, which in the providence of God can be ascertained from available manuscripts

with great accuracy. We further affirm that copies and translations of Scripture are the Word of God to the extent that they faithfully represent the original.

We deny that any essential element of the Christian faith is affected by the absence of the autographs. We further deny that this absence renders the assertion of Biblical inerrancy invalid or irrelevant."

I was raised with this line of thinking, and didn't really question it for most of my life. But recently it's been driving me crazy. Isn't this talk about the autographs and how we don't have them tacitly admitting that the Bible we do have isn't 100% authoritative?

It gets worse because if you compare certain prophecies quoted in the New Testament with how they appear in the Old Testament, they clearly do not match up (Mat 27:3-9 / Jeremiah 32:1-15 is the worst offender). This seems to indicate that the Gospel writers had access to a different version of the Old Testament than we do. And that's terrifying to me.

I think you can work your way around this problem if you're Roman Catholic/Orthodox, since it's the Church/Tradition that guarantees the Bible's legitimacy. But for us Prots, it seems like a huge glaring issue.

Anyone else ever grapple with this? It's making me seriously doubt what I've been taught.

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Combating Sin on 8chan

As all of you I am very glad that our board has made it to 9th most popular on 8ch (although the BO is a Papist), however scrolling down even on the front page I find boards like /cuteboys/ and /younglove/, both explicitly homosexual or pedophile, among many other implicitly sinful boards like hentai, furry, and the regular blaspheming on /leftypol/ and /pol/.

How do we save these people, brothers? Could we compile a convincing argument tailored to each of their afflictions to put them back on the right path towards God? What are some good arguments, or ways to cure a homosexual/pedophile?

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Fellas help

I'm not sure whether to be Catholic or Orthodox anymore

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>Praying in a public space is a bad move

>Telling someone in a public space that you'll pray for them is a good move

>Specially when its in the middle of you losing a argument

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Christians who go to hell?

There are videos on youtube that make me fearful. There are people who say they were missionaries, pastors, people who lived saying they were Christians and died for a few moments and said they went to hell….

Anons, even though people who believe in Jesus, it's not good enough, is it? What exactly must we do in order to go to heaven?

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RIP Stephen Hawking

He was expected to die at 36. God gave him 40 years to repent but he didn't. Pray for his soul bros.

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How are you guys to spend this Easter?

I plan on water fasting from midnight to the next day's sunrise.

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Mystery Babylon

Who is the End Times Babylon?

The United States? The Roman Catholic Church? Mecca? Jerusalem?

Western Civilization as a whole?

Which best fits the description set by the Book of Revelation.

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Black Fast this Good Friday (and Holy Saturday)

Who is joining me in taking part in a Black Fast for Good Friday at least, and perhaps Holy Saturday as well?


In short, you can only have one meal, after sunset, and it can only be bread and herbs. Please join me!

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Non-passive Bible verses

General fighting for justice and not being a cuck verses appreciated.

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I am scared of death

I am totally scared witless that after death is nothing, oblivion. So much that I was softly pushed towards faith. Is it wrong that because I am afraid of death I started wanting to become a Christian?

By scared witless I mean, even if it is a fraction of a second that I am faced with nothing and even with our Lord holding me at the hour of my death I still would be scared out of my mind.

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Ayn Rand

>Hated Christianity


>Authored a philosophy that was explicitly anti-Christian

Response from conservative Christians?


Can someone please explain this to me?

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Jesse Lee Peterson

What do you think of Rev Jesse Lee Peterson and his show The Fallen State?

The way he keeps his cool in interveiws is amazing. Looks like he blows his tops talking to the gun confiscation kids in his latest video, though.

Also, he claims that he no longer sins.

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Pope declares hell isn't real?

Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'

>In another interview with his longtime atheist friend, Eugenio Scalfari, Pope Francis claims that Hell does not exist and that condemned souls just "disappear." This is a denial of the 2,000-year-old teaching of the Catholic Church about the reality of Hell and the eternal existence of the soul. The interview between Scalfari and the Pope was published March 28, 2018 in La Repubblica. The relevant section on Hell was translated by the highly respected web log, Rorate Caeli.

>The interview is headlined, "The Pope: It is an honor to be called revolutionary." (Il Papa: “È un onore essere chiamato rivoluzionario.") Scalfri says to the Pope, "Your Holiness, in our previous meeting you told me that our species will disappear in a certain moment and that God, still out of his creative force, will create new species. You have never spoken to me about the souls who died in sin and will go to hell to suffer it for eternity. You have however spoken to me of good souls, admitted to the contemplation of God. But what about bad souls? Where are they punished?"

>Pope Francis says, "They are not punished, those who repent obtain the forgiveness of God and enter the rank of souls who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot therefore be forgiven disappear. There is no hell, there is the disappearance of sinful souls."



Can anyone attest to this being actually real? Or is it just more nonsense?

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Left my mission early and quit the LDS church. Going to University instead. Still consider myself a Christian but I feel kinda lost as far as where to go next. Any ideas?

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Losing a dear friend for the Gospel.

I’m a young 19 year old man and for a couple of years now i’be been friendly with some girl. We texted each other a lot because of distance but we got on fine and we were pretty cool with each other.

She said she was a Catholic so I would get along with her (I’m orthodox but we agree on most things). Or so I thought.

Turns out she is what I think is a Christian-lite. She believes Jesus is her saviour but takes an extremely critical view of the church and the bible. She started saying how Paul was a sexist citing Ephesians 5:22-24 about how wives should submit to their husbands. I try to convince her that it isn’t sexist, citing how in 5:21 Paul calls for husbands and wives to submit to each other, how in 5:31 the two become one flesh and so her going on about it being “patriarchal” is wrong because it separates the two instead of joining them. She then goes on about the Catholic Church as being unfair to women about how women cannot become priests. I tell her that priests are meant to be icons for Christ and hence a woman cannot be an icon for a man and vice versa. She then goes on about how the bible is relative how it was written by sexists and slave owners, how the bible is written by men and not inspired by the Holy Spirit etc etc.

After talking to her about these things she hasn’t replied to my text at all. I fear the friendship is over even though I thought our texts were a friendly discussion and not some heated argument. Needless to say I feel pretty bad, I may have just lost a friend, yet I know that I done the right thing because I didn’t compromise my faith.

Any advice over what I should do and how I can get over this feeling of loss?

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End Human life as we know it




Molly Yard, former president of the National Organization for Women, neatly tied abortion and radical environmentalism together when she said that "

>The abortion question is not just about women's rights, but about life on the planet environmental catastrophe awaits the world if the population continues to grow at its present rate."

>The following environmental and animal-rights organizations have gone on record as favoring repeal of the Mexico City Policy and restoration of Federal funding to the United Nations Fund for Population Activities (UNFPA), the chief architect of China's one-child population control policy. This program includes mass forced sterilization and abortion, as described in Chapter 50 of Volume II, "Forced Abortions."

This has been in the works for awhile… Sad. They want to kill you and dumb you down. Ref at the bottom. Seem's like the battle of will has only just begin

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Prove the legitimacy of the papacy. I don’t mean the recent papacy; I mean all the way back to Honorius I. Pretend that I’m open minded, but uneasy about Catholicism.

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is it possible to theosis and attain the beautific vision primarily through supreme physical mastery of the human body?

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What are some books about Orthodoxy and Catholic belief/theology that a brainlet like me can understand?

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Thou shalt not murder

i find it easy to understand everything in the bible except when it comes to jesus' elaboration of thou shalt not murder.

he says that if someone hits your cheek then turn your other cheek so they can it that too, then he talks about if your being robbed then let them rob you and give them more then what they came to rob you for.

I find everything else in the bible to be good and practical but this really bothers me. if an evil empire from accross the sea comes to invade you and theyre set on slaughtering everyone and destroying your religon. are you suppose to defend yourself?

how does this relate to the crusades?

how does this relate to the reconquista?

how is this practical or does he just mean dont hurt your fellow man and is not talking about foreign evil

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The Ministry of Defence confirmed the flag will be lowered at all military establishments

The Spanish flag will fly at half-mast on all military buildings including the Ministry of Defence in Madrid to commemorate the death of Christ this Holy Week.


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Holy War

When is a war holy? When is it just to wage war or defend yourself? My background is Assyrian, but my family is from Lebanon. My family friend told me stories of the Lebanese Civil War, and as a child, he was at church on Easter Sunday when the Muslim jihadis attacked. He saw children's clothing fly into the air torn from their bloody exploded corpses, while houses collapsed and the Muslims screamed 'allahu ackbar'.

In vengeance, his father grabbed an old form of machine gun and took a position in an abandoned apartment. He then slaughtered 98 Muslims to prevent them from reaching the village. His father then rescued a boy who had hidden under the floorboards of his home. When the Muslims came and killed his entire family, he survived and my friend's father rescued him. Together they killed even more Muslims.

My question is, was this right? We're the Christians right to wage holy war against their Muslim attackers? In Europe, a lot of you have complained about Islamization. That wouldn't happen if Europeans acted like the Lebanese did. Any thoughts?

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You enter your Church, to find a young muslim man knocking over the statues/icons, smashing the Crucifix, and trying to topple the altar. What do you do to stop him? Is violence justified to stop him?

Pic unrelated, but I don't have anything that fits the topic.

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What if we had an organized street gang like antifa except fighting for a good Christian cause?

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Hello christanons!

I wanted to hear your opinion on this. If a christian continues to sin knowingly and never giving up said sin will they still get to heaven. For example if a fag doesn't give up his gay lover is he still saved. Or if a stoner continues to smoke daily is he saved. Clearly their life won't be as fulfilling but would it affect whether they are saved or not?

(im not gay nor am i a stoner those were just examples :P)

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My sister is dressing like a thot what can I do

She's 13 or so and wears a thong around the house or most of the other time some booty shorts and the most modest she will get is some yogas. What do..

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Orthodox, get in here


We must unite against the apostate greek parliament and judiciary for this offense. Severe action may be necessary.

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what do you think of this girl?

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Chinese police seize bishop who was asked to stand aside by Vatican


>One of the Chinese ‘underground’ bishops who was asked by a Vatican delegation to stand aside for a government-backed prelate has been “kidnapped” by police.

>Bishop Guo, who is recognised by the Vatican but not by the Chinese government, had recently been asked to make way for excommunicated bishop Vincent Zhan Silu. A Vatican delegation asked Bishop Guo to accept the position of auxiliary bishop under Bishop Zhan as part of a rumoured deal between the Holy See and Beijng.

Why is the Vatican allowing this?

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Find your spirituality type

Find your spirituality type

I found a funny test, to describe your catholic spirituality type.

each of the 4 words in a row get rated from 1 to 4.

Read rules on Screen shot


I am no catholic, just did it out of fun

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how do you prevent having a daughter who grows up to be a hot thott? Is homeschooling mandatory? What about makeup and dress style?

Im scared guys

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Polish priest wishes Pope early death over call for Catholics to take in Muslim refugees


>A Polish priest has been called to account for his actions after wishing an early death on Pope Francis.

>Father Edward Staniek, a parish priest in the southern city of Krakow, had apparently been angered by the pope’s call for Catholics to take in Muslim refugees because it was their Christian duty.

>In a sermon delivered last month Father Staniek said: “I pray for the Pope in his wisdom to open his heart to the Holy Spirit, but if he does not, I pray for his quick departure to his Father’s house. I can always ask God for a happy death for him because a happy death is a great grace.”

>Later in the sermon he said there is “no dialogue” with Muslims, and that the “doors to the diocese and parish are open only to believers in Jesus Christ.”

>After details of the sermon became widespread, the priest was called to see Archbishop of Krakow Marek Jedraszewski. Although the archbishop said he had heard the news about the priest’s comments about Pope Francis with “great pain and regret” it remains unclear whether Father Staniek faces any punishment or sanction.

The Pope calling for the Islamization of Europe is the definition of Clownworld. Right now, the old colloquialism of “is the Pope Catholic?” has become confusing. Because it’s like, “yeah I dunno, I think he might be a Moslem or a militant atheist humanist or something?” What do you guys think?

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Why Catholicism is the Best Religion

Some religions are superior to others, and Christianity is the best. And of the Christians, Catholicism is the best.

By Fr. Dwight Longenecker


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Michael Voris

I'm sure this has been discussed before but what's the consensus on this guy?

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Orthodox vs Anglican/Episcopalian

Hello, /christian/. I am split between joining the Orthodox Church and the Anglican/Episcopalian Church. Right now, I don't particularly attend service, but I do pray and read the Bible every day. I live in burgerland. These are the only two denominations I feel a major draw towards, in a sort of spiritual way. Do you have any advice? Perhaps I should pray to the Holy Spirit for guidance?

inb4 cathbros: Papal supremacy is false, the Pope (Bishop of Rome) is among equals.

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I'm going to get baptized guys.

Been lurking here for a few months, you guys have helped me come to Christ.

I got saved 2 months ago, my church is having a special baptism service for a few people tomorrow and I'm going to be baptized with them in a baptist church. I am so happy. What was it like when you got baptized? Will the water be cold?