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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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011b55  No.785699[Reply]

I don't know how many autistic people actually post in this particular board, but I feel a need to ask. As someone with autism, how on Earth am I supposed to be comfortable, or even content, when it comes to practicing Christianity? I can do stuff like pray and read the bible, but stuff like going to church or confession make me a nervous wreck because I don't like dealing with big crowds or singing or just badly following along what everyone else is doing. It doesn't help that I'm constantly asking myself if I'm following the right sect of Christianity. I understand it started with Martin Luther, but I keep asking myself if following the wrong sect of Christianity is worse than not being religious at all? Autistic people on average do well with set goals/actions, and when there's so many different possibilities to not just the sects, but to the meanings of different parts of the bible, some of which conflict, that I start having panic attacks thinking about it. Don't even get me started on the parts about converting people, I've been told that I'd be a terrible motivational speaker.

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ab819d  No.786580

>>786575

>So, from my understanding, it's not 'did I do enough,' it's 'do I feel comfortable with what I have done?'

For your situation, basically yes. All that matters is whether you're on the right track, not how far up the mountain you've climbed, and you can verify how things are going for you with a blessing from your local pastor if you ever feel unsure about your trajectory. And remember to continue praying asking for God to help guide you so that you can at least take confidence in the fact that you're genuinely trying, which is what God ultimately wants from us in the end anyway.

>>786181

No problem. I have adhd+dyslexia myself, so I can often kinda empathize with people that have different ways of looking at the world, as I myself often feel like I have no idea wtf I'm doing most of the time, lol.


d99f7a  No.786591

>>786575

I've longed to hear your response and just when I had begun to read the story attached to this post >>786177 you answered. Short of a miracle, something that story is full of, but nevertheless what I wanted.

At any rate, let's see if I can help;

>I want to see my family in Heaven

I confess ignorance about what is contained in heaven, I'm sure God knows what is best for us. St Paul of the Cross says that the soul should be happy like the potter's clay; either to be made into a great artwork, or be thrown into the rubbish. Once you are dead and hid in Christ (Colossians 3:3) you won't have fears about what is or isn't in heaven, although your love for your family is of God, and it is very good of course. Perhaps this is still something you will come to understand later, but also there are many gifts you will get before you die, which will secure you from all doubts that the Christian path through life is best. One of the best is a clean conscience imo. Which brings me to your next point:

>I can remember things I did ten-fifteen years ago that still make me feel guilty.

Confess them to a priest or to the person that you wronged if they can still be found, get it off your chest once and you will never think of it again. You will be happier thereafter.

**Also, regarding the idea that all you have in heaven is God, try to bear in mind that that is 1) not the only interpretation and 2) if you interpret it that way you are also saying something about what people really are, which means that you shouldn't be afraid of it because you're implying that all souls revert to God and are completely absorbed by Him, therefore you would still be united with your family, just in a much less individualistic way. I think there's merit in the argument – it definitely could be like that – but nevertheless you can't know.


011b55  No.787312

>>786580

>>786591

I have a few more questions that I've always mulled over;

1. I know people ask 'why does God let bad things happen' and around here they get laughed at, but since I have a disability, I ask that question seriously. If I do good things, it's because of him, but bad things are my inability to be perfect or someone else doing something evil, right? But in this case, I'm born with something, and a sibling born after me turned out fine. I just want to know why I was born autistic.

2. Is choosing the wrong denomination going to make God angry or upset? I always hear arguments but I'm always worried that there's no point in trying if I'm just going to make God angry anyway.

3. If one priest says something is sinful and another says that thing is not sinful, what am I to do? It always confuses me.


d99f7a  No.787453

>>787312

>I just want to know why I was born autistic.

>John 9, As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” 3 “Neither this man nor his parents sinned,” said Jesus, “but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him."

you've been given a hard road, but you're not dead so make the most of it. Try to see it as something to overcome; you can discipline yourself to look people in the eye, or not to stutter if you happen to do, to respond with confidence when you have none, and I would suggest keeping a journal for you to reflect upon social interactions and upon your own mental state. Often I find that my self-knowledge and my confidence in social situations is linked, because I've come to understand that the same fears are working on everyone, and it's just the normal people who cope better because they don't get the same sensory overload. But you can slowly introduce yourself to new stimuli and force yourself into new, better habits.

>Is choosing the wrong denomination going to make God angry or upset?

Basic answer is no, I've busted my head against this wall long enough to tell you that there's no point in having such fears. What is important is how you manifest Christ. The church is just a building, the apostles are only worth following because of their connection to Jesus, and church is only good because you need a family. After all Christ said that "those who do the works of My Father in Heaven, they are my brothers and sisters." You are just getting a support network that shares your values, find another parish if they are hurtful or if they are disinterested (both of which are major sins), but no need to bounce from church to church. What you really need is a sociable church; you won't like it at first, but they are the people who can help you grow in terms of socialization with no risk to yourself. (They aren't your boss, professors or in a power-relationship with you, so you can relax and practice skills you find yourself deficient in, in a risk-free environment)

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d99f7a  No.787462

>>787312

Also, one last thing, do not despair when your first attempt at fixing yourself fails. Get serious about the idea of casting out demons and start casting them out from yourself; get angry at the demon and not at your failure to overcome him, knowing that all he has on his side is fear, self-loathing, and pride, and that all three are the lies of the devil. Fight like Patton; every time you are thrown back in retreat, reconnoiter the enemy's defenses, try to figure out whether they are pride, or fear, or self-loathing or how they have been combined in a layered defense. Then assemble your forces and kill. Grease your tank treads with demon guts as you advance. Make your bad habits afraid of which one is going to die next.




396a42  No.786194[Reply]

I failed to remain pure of lust for 3-5 days. 3-5 DAYS!! I want to break free but i'm scared of dying alone. I want a faithful loving wife and kids. I want a purpose to my life. TO HAVE MEANING!!! where have most of the faithful women gone. i want someone who will protect me and vice versa. I want someone who will teach me the faith( i'm catholic) and nurture me our kids. All I see are degenerates faithless miscreants. I have Aspergers and I live in the woods so i'm alone most of the time. I don't know what to do.

GOD HELP US :''(

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5c3be8  No.786288

>>786194

>I can't stay pure for 3-5 days

>Where have all the faithful women gone?

First, learn to live chastely, then you can worry about whether or not you'd be fit to be a husband and father. It won't do you or any woman good if you put this kind of moral and emotional baggage on your future spouses shoulders.

Women want to marry men, so be a man, start praying the rosary and start learning to live with virtue before seeking a woman.

I speak from experience, that if you were successful in finding a girl to date at this very second, it will be disastrous for both of you if you haven't figured out how to control your lust.


396a42  No.787369

>>786213

OP here thank you : D


396a42  No.787370

>>786288

thank you


0250a5  No.787416

Just don't look at women. That's the only way. Whenever I drive by a girl jogging in yoga pants I just winnie the pooh scream to stop myself from looking. Everywhere you go it's just Tits and ass and I feel like I'm gonna explode sometimes


c196d8  No.787418

>>786194

>TO HAVE MEANING!

Christ taught self-sacrifice, he never said women came with as a package deal.

>I want to break free but i'm scared of dying alone.

You are afraid/despairing, this is because you aren't sufficiently detached from earthly things. Take no thought for the morrow, sufficient unto the day are the evils thereof.

>All I see are degenerates faithless miscreants.

So did Jesus, yet He let them use Him. Apply the lesson to yourself, and there you will find meaning.




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a778ca  No.786883[Reply]

Should I say grace for everything I eat, even if it is a snack? How often should I say it throughout the day? Do I also need to say grace for drinking water?

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fc8b69  No.786944

>>786883

I do not do this yet, Lord have mercy.


986f5f  No.786945

>>786944

It's always a good day to start :)

Here's a simple prayer I say:

>Bless us Oh Lord, for these Thy gifts, for which we are about to receive, through Christ our Lord

>Amen

And make the sign of the cross on yourself and the food and enjoy.


fc8b69  No.786961

>>786945

I will make a note that I have to start in my journal, doing so typically quickens the effects of grace in my experience.


d54227  No.787108

>>786883

Say a longer grace for full meals, for snacks and water you might say something quick to the effect of "Lord I thank you for your gift" or "Thank you Lord." Say it with attention even once it's a habit though, prayer without at least the intention of true attention (which should be able to be maintained during a 2 second prayer as these) is useless.


2b94dc  No.787345

We need to pray for blessings of our food just in case it has kosher or halal cursings upon it.




afaef1  No.785787[Reply]

How do I pray the Rosary? i tried praying it but I don't know how to meditate on the mysteries. i don't understand them at all. :'(

also i don't know if i'm going to heaven. i was angry at god and cursed the trinity. is there hope for me? i'm confused about my faith and don't know what church to attend. PLEASE HELP ME !!!

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8f44b2  No.786867

>>786861

I know man. As much good as Hitler did by uplifting his people from the depression, he still winnie the poohed up hard. At best, he was a very charismatic prot. At worst, he was a secret LARPagan.

But as the other anon pointed out, if the crown didn't arrogant and just followed the lead of the Iberians, India would be fully Christian.


d29b53  No.786963

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I was researching the Rosary and I heard of the Dominican method of praying it. Does anybody here follow this method, is there any reason to use it over the usual one?


a738bd  No.787310

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>>786848

Story time:

I was like 5 yo. since i got memory i used to visit churches by my own, my mother was happy about it but neither she or my father induced to me onto christianity, i used to love stained glasses, sculpture and instead of pokemon toys sometimes i asked for something from the christian shop. There i got my glowing in the dark rosary.

My mother tried to explain me about religion (all asked by me) and i remeber being told that we cant see God, Christ, The Virgin Mary but they indeed exist, and they live in heaven with grandpa (who died not so long by that time). I remember praying to God if he can make pokemon real haha.

Long story short, when i went back to school i was talking fascinated about religion, specially about the virgin mary and grandpa who "wasnt dead, hes alive in heaven, guarding me", when asked about what i wanted to be when i grow up i replied "i want to be a priest".

My teacher, went full panic mode, she tought i was having some kind of visions of the Virgin Mary, took the rosary away and called my parents.

The fun part of the story was that she insisted that my parents where some kind of religious fanatics when they never cared too much about religion (the only times we went to church was like 5 minutes after school when asked mom and i wasnt baptized until i was 8). I remember nuns loving me every time i was around, good times, they gift me crucifixes all the time.


8f44b2  No.787337

>>787310

That "teacher" sounded like she was demon possessed or worse.


612d44  No.787341

>>785995

Rugged Rosaries




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7ec77f  No.784805[Reply]

I'm not sure if I should post this in another thread, but I'd assume with religion comes panic attacks, whether they be religious or otherwise.

Lately I've been suffering more panic attacks. I'm trying to stop fapping, and on the third day my mind and body start racing with negative thoughts. I start to think about fapping, but panic attacks make me tired and I just go to sleep. That's not always a viable option though, like if I'm driving or if I'm at work. Every time I have a panic attack, I start thinking about religion. I'm not sure exactly why; it could be my personal fears about dying or maybe it's a message from the lord, or the devil playing tricks on me. I believe in Jesus and a higher power, but Hell has always been difficult for me, simply because I can't understand why Satan, who attempted to overthrow God as the king of Heaven, would then become a torturer of souls. The leap from one thing to another doesn't make sense to me. However, in the end, I do fear death, as it sometimes makes me feel like my actions that may help others either does not matter, or are selfishly done in hopes of being granted entrance to His kingdom. I find it funny that I feel more at ease doing good deeds without thinking of the lord then I do with Him in mind.

So in a roundabout way, I'm asking how anons deal with panic attacks and stress in relation to religion. Sorry if I already posted this, I might be having issues with the image I post in the OP.

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7ec77f  No.785015

>>784842

Well shoot. I feel like this means it'll be my fault if my mom goes to Hell now.

>>784848

God can love me and still not feel that I can enter into Heaven. God loves all, but that doesn't mean everyone goes to Heaven.

>>784849

I don't have one and don't know where to get one. I'd assume a church?


d23a56  No.785048

True religion has nothing to do with panic attacks. Jesus tells us himself to live for the day and not to worry.

"Do not worry about tomorrow; tomorrow will take care of itself. Sufficient for a day is its own evil."


e1b505  No.785097

>>785015

>I don't have one and don't know where to get one. I'd assume a church?

There's at least one per church, and at least 2 per cathedral. I suggest you find one of those, and attend a service, don't take the Eucharist, read up a bit on the etiquette of churchgoing so you make a good impression and feel comfortable, knowing that you didn't screw up.

After the service stay, make yourself known to the congregants as far as the social circumstances seem to indicate, and ask the priest about your problems. It's literally his job to fix them, if he wants to schedule a meeting then do that.

Also, do bear in mind that your feeling of being saved is not an accurate guide to the situation, nor is it true that your feeling of not being saved is an accurate guide. In fact, it's likely, the way you are talking, which is to say that you are taking seriously the words of Christ, and view yourself as a sinner unworthy of heaven, probably means that you are well on your way to salvation, since you have recognized that all your good works are ultimately from God and are not of yourself, and you are working out your salvation with fear and trembling.


c65094  No.787321

>>784805

hello brother/sister

jesus is love. perhaps you should discover ways to live faith with your brothers/sisters

i'm fasting today. i'm also trying to lose some weight. may god bless you and keep you safe.

/dk/


c25d97  No.787334

>>787321

>im fasting today

Based and breadpilled




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dee795  No.768967[Reply]

I know there are many Christian anons here, honestly, stop attending the /pol/, that environment is toxic.

Right now there was a thread about an anon that got blackpilled to death by shills on that website. Apparently he took his own life.

I prayed a reprimand for their work, including the dwarfs who may have been innocently affected, I did not open the secrecy, and I left the site.

I do not know what's wrong with that chan, but I've often noticed shills putting negative energies there to harm others unnecessarily, I've even seen a webm on thread that showed subliminal satanic messages.

As Philippians 4: 8 warns us,

Philippians 4

8 Conclusion, dear brothers, absolutely everything that is true, whatever is honest, whatever is fair, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is good, if there is something or worthy of praise, Think about this. 9 All that you have learned, received, heard and seen in me, practice; and the God of peace will be with you ''

Let us not fill our heads with malice, evil, negative and demonic thoughts, nor with the works of the devil.

May God bless and keep you.

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4e928d  No.786749

>>768967

> know there are many Christian anons here, honestly, stop attending the /pol/, that environment is toxic.

Christianity is NOT a sect. We have to go to /pol/ and correct JIDF shills who promote anti-christian lies and Paganism.


4dc900  No.786797

>>785293

That's like saying you should become a commie because economic inequality is growing nowadays, and not realizing the class struggle is putting your fingers in your ears, and going "lalala, i can't hear you".

/pol/tards are a crappy symptom of society going out of balance, not a solution to rectify it.


0bbb2c  No.787045

>>785079

You can go back to reddit.


bdde0e  No.787273

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>>768967

4chan itself is just completely full of redditors and satan, no longer is it the fun free-speech platform is formerly was. /pol/ especially is a cesspool of emos and people that hate any sort of authority, that's why Christianity is looked down upon there. I know it's hard to stay away from your epic little secret club, and you'll lose a lot of internet points, but please don't let satanic influence and shilling of minority hate get to you. We're not dealing with the same /pol/ that we once were.


853a0c  No.787275

>>787273

there are plenty of christians on /pol/, but the problem is that they are misguided on the jewish origin of christianity and the difference between Christendom and Rabbinic Jews




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8248b7  No.782876[Reply]

I was thinking about this recently. How many of you guys (or just Christians as a whole) are Christians because they converted, and how many were born into it?

No I do not consider you a convert if you were a fedora and then came back later in life. I think you are truly a convert if you have no prior experience in Christendom.

Do you ever wonder about things like this? I have been seriously thinking about this. When I came back to Christ I largely discarded most other religions, and didn't pay them much mind, whereas if I were raised another religion I know for certain I would have looked into that religion and discarded most others.

No idea where I am really going with this, I guess I am just trying to verbalize my thoughts.

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118e55  No.784741

>>782876

>whereas if I were raised in another religion I know for certain I would have looked into that religion and discarded most others

And if you looked hard enough, you would have found God there. (or, rather, He would have come to find You).

The word for "the word" is Logos

Jesus IS the logos

Jesus is the perfect man

And his Word goes out through all the cosmos

Also, did you know?

'kosmos' = ‘world’

akosmos = ‘disorder'

I find this psalm to be very comforting. It was true of myself. No human being came to 'convert' me. If they had, they would have failed. I grew up in the church. then i left the church, hard, for many years. God came to find ME. His Word was always there. The universe itself is a testament to its maker.

>Psalm 19 King James Version (KJV)

1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.

3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.

4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,

5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.

6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.

7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.

8 The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes.

9 The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.

10 More to be desired are they than gPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


118e55  No.784742

>>784741

>kosmos

"Cosmos is originally a Greek word, meaning both "order" and "world," because the ancient Greeks thought that the world was perfectly harmonious and impeccably put in order. We now use cosmos without the idea of perfect order. Now it means, "all of creation," and particularly on the scale of the stars, the planets, the black holes, the other universes, …. "

>https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/cosmos

probably a better source, but that gets at the heart of it i think.


822d0e  No.784757

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>>784120

The Roman “Catholic” Church is very of this world. Just look at the Vatican and now Francis. It’s a clown show after Vatican II.

Christ did not live like how any of these modern Popes do. You could take God out of the Vatican and it would keep on running.


3380e8  No.787006

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I was born into a family of conservative lukewarm Christians.


cb9013  No.787030

>>784757

Sadly true. The sad thing is that Francis actually has stripped himself of the more fanciful adornments and titles of Pope (and seems to like walking even.. rather than be carried around in a chair). But even his humility doesn't resemble the humble beginnings of Jesus, Mary in the manger, John the Baptist in the desert, the Apostles on the run..

Maybe the average Franciscan monk reflects the way of life (which was partly St. Francis' goal, I think), but it gets lost in higher ecclesiastical levels.




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709025  No.786251[Reply]

I really thought she was the one I'd marry. I lost my virginity to her. What do now? I committed a big sin

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f6de32  No.786670

>>786287

Hey buddy with all due respect let’s keep it together, alright?


d82d46  No.786777

>>786251

How long ago was it?


16bc29  No.786795

>>786466

>I've had no luck with church girls, it's almost like they're just there to virtue signal

Are you Orthodox? I can see those women having high standards. More often than not, women go to church for emotional support, to chat with their circle of friends, or to attract a "good" man (tall, fit, handsome, full head of hair, lots of hobbies, etc.)… at least, that's been my past experience in Prot churches. I'm a candidate in the RCC right now, and don't know what Catholic women are like.

>The university makes women unfeminine, prideful and fills their head with liberalism. Feminism is the sin of pride

>Even in high school many of the girls are fallen and depraved

Indeed. Some of the freshman and sophomore women at my college aren't completely corrupted, and there was one I recently had my eye on (nothing special; tall, average looking brunette with a bubbly personality), but I found out she has an 8/10 boyfriend. I notice her friend (short, average looking brunette with glasses) stares at me during class, so with any luck, she's Christian, single, and interested… but enough about that anyway. Women drive me nuts sometimes.

>>786640

Sorry for the blackpills, my friend. With the current state of affairs, that's all I have on offer.


6b2521  No.786804

>>786795

I begome Orthodox from RCC.

Idk about high standards, but there are certainly more Gatholic gurls than Orthodox in the USA. I'm visiting Russia though and not sure what to expect there.

My old RC novus ordo church was very liberal, feminist, modernist. I wonder are there church girls at these SSPX or sedevecantist masses?


ee2cb3  No.787001

>>786277

You're not supposed to know what it means, it doesn't matter. The traditionalist larp pushes people away from faith.

not to say traditionalism is bad, but this shit is getting really tired




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1a0277  No.786771[Reply]

AUSTIN, Texas (CBSDFW.COM/AP) — A Roman Catholic priest in Austin has been arrested on a misdemeanor assault charge after he was accused of groping a woman in home hospice care while giving her last rites.

Austin Police arrested Rev. Gerold Langsch and charged him with assault by contact stemming from the October 5, 2018 encounter.

The 75-year-old priest is free on $15,000 bond. If convicted, he could be sentenced to a year in jail and fined up to $4,000.

Police contend in the arrest affidavit that the woman was in hospice care for complications from diabetes when Lansch went to her home to administer the sacrament of anointing the sick, a sacrament of absolution.

The woman, who is still alive, reported that Langsch first anointed her chest with holy water, then began to apply lotion, massaging a breast, pinching a nipple and asking “Does that feel good?” He then tried to slip his hand inside her diaper but was unable to.

The woman later told police the priest’s actions left her in shock, uncomfortable, confused and feeling like, she told police, a “nasty, dirty piece of meat.”

In a statement Wednesday, the Catholic Diocese of Austin said Langsch had been pastor of St. Paul Catholic Church in Austin until last month, when the diocese “received an unrelated report that he had failed to maintain proper boundaries with an adult.”

The statement said that report did not involve any physical contact. Nevertheless, the diocese removed Langsch from his post and deemed him no longer able to serve as a priest in the diocese.

The diocese said it will cooperate fully with police and asks anyone with information about the priest’s actions to notify police.

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/03/20/catholic-priest-accused-groping-texas-woman-last-rites/

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d057a8  No.786875

>>786814

Because it wasn't the first time he did something scandalous.

I'm actually glad that it's not a homosex pedo for a change…not that this is much better though.


87a922  No.786884

>>786873

Diabetic people are literally fat gluttons though. I highly doubt it was type 1


f61863  No.786888

>>786814

>do you seriously think a 75 year old man has the libido

You should meet my grandfather.


c86a64  No.786904

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Very sad if true. I actually just woke up with a completely opposite story. Aid to the Church in Need sent me an email about a similarly old priest who was martyred in Syria… and now I have to read this. So torn. Crazy contrast.

>It was during a moment of serenity in a war zone near Homs, Syria - as he tended to his community center's garden - that Father Frans van der Lugt, a devoted Jesuit priest from the Netherlands, was shot in the head and killed on April 7, 2014.

>

>In 1980, Father Frans started the Al-Ard Center (community center and farm) in the besieged country of Syria. The farm’s vineyard and garden work was tended to by people with disabilities - unprecedented in a society where people with physical challenges were shunned and not widely seen in public. Father Frans felt strongly that every life had incredible worth and should be valued and nurtured.


d293b4  No.786930

>>786884

Catholic priests are disproportionately pedophiles, do i get to call this guy a diddler?




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8fb899  No.785881[Reply]

Hypothetically lets say tomorrow Pope Francis resigns and the college of cardinals decide to randomly select a practicing catholic man from a computer. You win the jackpot and become Pope and are elevated to the pontificate. What would you do? What would your papacy be like? What name would you choose?

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63250f  No.786502

>>785881

Condemn Vatican 2 as a robber council and issue a syllabus of errors against all that have cropped up from it. All new priests and bishops must be ordained by those who have not been ordained in the new rite.

Anathematise novus ordo and the 1962 rites. Anathematize the St Pius X breviary and all subsequent divine office innovation abominations, returning to the 1910 version. Condemn these liturgical innovations as errors and even heresy.

Promote the Anglican use and other exact literal translations of the Roman rite with local customs as secondary masses.

Ban Low Mass as it is abused as the norm. All masses must be sung or not done at all as there is no excuse. Multiple masses must not be done on a day unless there are coinciding feasts eg. ferial mass + duplex feast + simplex feast. All priests must assist each other at mass and not say mass separately. One properly sung solemn mass is infinitely better than 10 mumbled low masses which is offensive to God. All liturgy must be sung at the proper traditional times of day.

The priests must sing the hours of lauds and vespers publicly in church. The other hours should be encouraged to be sung publicly too. Basically benedictine style. Allow vernacular literal translations of divine office and use of local customs as long as they have no protestant innovations and conform to the 1910 divine office eg. Anglican use Evensong and Morningsong.

Enforce minor orders as necessary for any layman who wishes to exercise a liturgical function eg. all servers must be minor orders and tonsured as per sacred tradition. All minor orders and major orders must sing in choir. Women are not allowed to sing the liturgy or responses in Church. Suffer not a woman to speak in Church, she must be silent. Reinforce segregation of sexes, veils and proper modest dress at Church. Women are banned from teaching. Suffer not a woman to teach. Women are not allowed to talk to priests unless she has no father or husband for she must ask them instead. If a woman does not understand soPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


ac3a1b  No.786509

>>786429

I wonder what part of "universal"/Catholic these posers don't understand? It's glaringly obvious this is not the church for them.


6a5764  No.786603

>>785908

what level of Jesuit trickery is this


b7a162  No.786840

>>786502

>Condemn heliocentrism as heresy. Affirm geocentrism as dogma.

You can't be serious.


0ef02e  No.786878

>>785890

>>785891

Don't forget to hire an extra twenty super loyal bodyguards that follow you everywhere.

You'll definitely become the target of a (((hit)) God bless you though




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554134  No.785816[Reply]

Transgender Advocate Attacks Statue of Virgin Mary.

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b577e0  No.786805

>>786314

>You again?

Yep. I'll be here forever.

>You again? How many times do we have to tell you that we will never condone you trying to turn yourself into a woman

Hence why I called myself a reprobate.

>Stop believeing (((satan)))'s lies and man up already

I've spent two weeks putting in 25lb shelves at grocery stores and taking the glass bottles of juice off the shelf and replacing them. Not as a stocker with a job that nets me social security - as a contractor.

>And stop blaming God for your parents' sins

Why does God blame me for becoming a tranny in the face of abusive parents who beat and abuse me, homelessness, and no hope on Earth or in Heaven?

Why didn't my grandparents baptise me after being given permission by my parents? Why did God tell all these people to keep me from him?

>And pray the rosary daily. I know you haven't

I just tried to teach it to my brother yesterday. I recited the first chaplet in front of him.

Teaching others Christianity - he's now reading the Catechism - counts for nothing I guess.

>>786324

>Yet you say that the hope of gratifying this wish is all you have… do you not think that possessing God Himself, the very source of all good, will be better than this?

I've seen God. I'm being told here I can't go live with Him as a traPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


b577e0  No.786806

>>786333

>You already know what you are doing is wrong, and yet you do it anyway. That is a sin. A bigger sin than wanting to distort the body God gave you

All I can do is ask for mercy.

>your vanity

My sin is pride. I don't care what others think of me - I care about how I look to myself.

>>786370

>I don't think you'll need your physical body (in the way that you seem to think)

So I never get to enjoy my flesh because I was poor on Earth and hated my body, then I go to a disembodied Heaven and never get to enjoy what tons of other people did on Earth.

>I'd even say that if you do love Him (and He DOES love you!), he would not cause you suffering by making your union with him the thing you fear most. It would be contrary to what we know about Him

I want to be with Him, but I also want to look like a woman. Only not looking like a woman for all eternity would make me suffer. If I can't look like a woman with Him, then the glory of being with him would not be mine. I'd have to dissociate my mind from the scene of being with God, and at that point I wouldn't feel His glory - I would have scooted myself off the table, and into Hell.


d222b2  No.786824

>>786806

>look like a woman

So you admit you are not a woman.

You have a serious dissociative disorder. You must be suffering intensely. Someone say a rosary for this man.


04090a  No.786831

>>786806

tigga i already told you to either:

1- Seek treatment

or

2- Make a pilgrimage, travel, and of course before you go, throw all of that tranny shit away.

If you continue to not do these things, then yoi haven't done everything you could have. We are all praying for you hoping you can abandon this obsession.


51b1ad  No.786852

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>>786805

Get over it.

If I can forgive my parents for emotionally abusing my sisters and I you can forgive your abusive father for beating you.

Stop polluting your body with drugs, and stop thinking you will be a reprobate. You too can be saved, but you have to set your vanity aside and just listen.

Leave your pride forever and stop believing the lies of (((satan))). You will never get a woman's body.

No matter how many drugs you take to screw up your hormones,

No matter how many times you fry your brain,

No matter of you mutilate your body,

GOD MADE YOU A MAN!

STOP ACTING LIKE A SPOILED BRAT AND JUST ACCEPT IT ALREADY!




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662a52  No.768522[Reply]

Thoughts on Calvin?

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a28592  No.781989

>>781984

In all fairness, there's some debate over whether Calvin could be called a "Calvinist".

The two don't necessarily intersect.


0fcbd0  No.782005

>>781989

I was under the impression that people refrained from calling themselves Calvinists before reading at least the important bits of the Institutes, even if they belong to a reformed church. I also don't understand how Calvin could be considered anything but a Calvinist.


a28592  No.782008

>>782005

There's some level of discrepancy between the various Reformed churches and Calvin himself (for example, Calvin held to double predestination, that is God actively elects some to salvation and actively condemns some to damnation unconditionally; most Reformed churches don't hold to that, professing something known as "compatibilism")

In fact, there isn't a single, binding confession to unite the various Reformed churches. The most common ones are the Three Forms of "Unity" (The Belgic Confession, the Heidelberg Catechism, and the Canons of Dort), and the Westminster Standards and Catechism, but there are scores of others.

Personally, the whole tight, intellectualism of Reformed theology appealed to me, but I couldn't square it away with certain parts of Scripture and Church history.


55a179  No.786605

>>768522

He's wrong. He's imbalanced in his read of the scriptures. Choice is everywhere. See Rev 22:17 eg


4c9210  No.786807

>>782008

>actively condemns some to damnation unconditionally; most Reformed churches don't hold to that, professing something known as "compatibilism"

I don't think you even know what the terms you're using mean.




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00dd4e  No.786624[Reply]

What would be done about pagan cultural or heritage sites like the Taj Mahal (muslim), the egyptian pyramids (egyptian polytheist), or Itsukushima shrine (shinto) in the ideal future global Christian theocracy?

Will they be razed and wiped out, or would they be preserved like museum pieces?

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1c82af  No.786765

The Pyramids were already under Christian rule before, and we didn't disturb that oversized tomb for any reason. Nor the Sphinx


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d48849  No.785683[Reply]

After the mosque shooting, some of my atheist friends have debated with me about the classic problem of evil, as in why an all-loving GOD allows what appears to be unnecessary suffering, and I'm curious as to how to approach this issue without having said friends become hardened from the glory of GOD.

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e1e74e  No.786735

>>786724

>>786725

You know what's funny about you people? Your refusal to confront the fact that many "whites" collaborated with your great enemy wittingly or not, especially in the Soviet endeavor, and in all similar endeavors since. It's always suspicious, in fact, how so little rhetoric focuses on traitors, and instead pins all blame on an external foe. No "race" is free of grievous sin and atrocity.

Go read God's Secret Armies. Jews suffered plenty under the Soviet yoke with the others, especially under Stalin, but that's inconvenient, isn't it.


8eb44b  No.786740

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>>786735

Not every bloshevik was a Jew, but the extreme majority of leading position were Jews and the Secret Police was Jewish and the person who oversee the starving to death of 8 millions christian Ukrainians by starving was a Jew.

Bolshevism was a Jewish movement, a Jewish invention and it couldn't have existed and prevailed without Jewish involvement…Same thing with feminism.

See the video here at the beginning.


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8eb44b  No.786744

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Even Vladimir Goyim at to admit that 80-85% of the Soviet Government was Jewish (and he didn't say it, but high position of powers in the Soviet Union Pretty much was 90-95% Jewish).

And this ideology has killed more or less 85 millions ethnic Catholics. So no, Jews are no victims at all as a whole, as a people.


8eb44b  No.786756

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>>786752

> Comrade Stalin hated jews with passion.

To be fair, he did go against the Jews once...And then, his Jewish Doctor immediately killed him.




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5f9c6a  No.786548[Reply]

Were psilocybin mushroosm the forbidden fruit of the garden? I've heard they're what made us self aware beings knowing good and evil….

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b7aa19  No.786573

Considering that I know good and evil and I’ve never eaten that mushroom, I’d say… no


61a893  No.786691

shrooms do not change a very being of a species, its a Luciferian druggie fantasy that cannot be substantiated


aa608f  No.786696

>>786551

I think you mean ANY hippy :D


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0c1128  No.786722

>forbidden fruit




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