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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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87ea1d  No.816220[Reply]

>Be a Catholic Christian

>Been practicing for years, trying to get over habitual sins and thensome as they come.

>Go to reconciliation whenever I could and needed to, tried getting a spiritual director, and prayed and read Scripture daily

>Almost nothing about my life has changed in terms of behavior

>Stopped going to Church out of shame, spiritual director ghosted me, and stopped trying to pray or read Scripture, though I still read other religious books near daily.

>At my breaking point and about to just accept condemnation so I can enjoy what little time I can enjoy things.

Why can't God just kill me already and get it over with. We both know exactly what's going to happen when I die anyway so there is no point in suspending the inevitable.

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67bbc6  No.816271

>>816266

Going off the health bar and message, I'm 90% sure its a mount and blade mod

>>816264

How do you distinguish between relaxing/taking a day off and sloth?


f13ef8  No.816286

>>816271

For me, it often coincided with procrastination and drinking, so I'd be sherking off my responsibilities and being often unable to since I was inebriated most the day. I found it best that, even on my days off, that I keep busy and occupied, because there's always something to do. Plus if I wanted to get what I wanted, I had to stop. No way getting a gf sitting at home playing video games and drinking. Best to work on yourself rather than lose yourself and your days off; days off aren't fully for relaxation, it's also for making something of your own time.

That's how it is for me at least.


afd0f8  No.816293

>>816220

Because you are grappling with an actual demon that wants you to feel this way. God believes you can win.


752eb5  No.816376

>>816260

>>816266

It's a mount and blade:warband mod called Nova aetus


f7af41  No.818865

>>816220

It seems to me that you haven't surrendered yourself to God yet. Every part of our life which we do not surrender to Him, is a part wherein we are in rebellion. The more we are in rebellion, the less God will work in our life. Surrender is the key to overcoming sin and to having a fruitful walk with God.

Please take a look at this:

https://youtu.be/1mxCKRkSsXg

https://mega.nz/#!YSJ2WY6T!KRv9lUBES7XjFZ4A1xXc6-0pi9qiUgrtyPv7cRxahbE




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368458  No.817283[Reply]

Besides celebrated sodomy and widespread transgenderism. One of the first signs of a sick society about to collapse is widespread obesity and the celebration of being fat. Gluttony a seven deadly sin for a reason. I believe Dieting and exercise one of the first steps to salvation.

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3f9f18  No.818265

being overweight is already a sin so imagine obesity…

It's the sin of gluttony and slothness (too lazy to exercise, cock healthy food and practice a lot of sport to take care of your temple)


5436d2  No.818291

>>817291

Obesity falls under the category of Gluttony, which is a mortal sin.


050c7a  No.818334

>>817283

Side note: it's a useful sign to tell who is and who isn't virtuous. Fat people tend to have more vices and fit people tend to have more virtue.

Inb4 not all fat people

Gluttony is literally a deadly sin and fatness is the effect of gluttony. Being fat thus means having built a strong vice in the deadly sin of gluttony.


471fa9  No.818652

>>818291

>>818045

The point is that obesity is not a sin in itself, but rather a consequence of the deadly sin of gluttony.


317f1f  No.818843

Obesity is a state of being very overweight. Being in such a state is not a sin by itself. However, being obese is unhealthy, which both harms ourselves, and the common good of society by the strain the related health complications put on the medical system. So not avoiding obesity, not trying your best to not be overweight, is a sin, a violation of our duty to take care of the life God has given us, and a violation against charity, which necessarily seeks the common good of society. Obesity is also generally the result of gluttony, and a sedentary lifestyle, the latter of which is also unhealthy for body and mind.




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4ff071  No.818557[Reply]

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1a71b7  No.818639

>>818623

But isn't "primus inter pares" contrary to what the CC believes? As far as I know, only the Orthodox Church still acknowledges this terminology.


1a71b7  No.818640

>>818616

>Not Bart or Bergoglio's fault Russia schismed away from their own church

Yeah what was the deal with that?

Polite sage for double posting


d3d01f  No.818659

This is tragic. What authority does Francis have to give schismatics the bones of the first Pope? Does he have no regard for the sacred, or tradition?


ad9a49  No.818839

>>818659

Being the Pope gives him that authority.


bbb8c5  No.818840

>>818640

Long story short:

Moscow got butthurt that Constantinople gave Ukraine autocephaly (ie. Independence from Moscow). Now Moscow is leading a schism away from Constantinople thus fracturing The Eastern churches over politics.

There was a Ukraine Drama thread a while ago. I'd check there for more details




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fdb5ab  No.817981[Reply]

God or nothing. If this is true, then why should I bother with anything else? Recently these three words have been haunting me up to the point that I consider my last two semesters to be the most severe period of procrastination of my life. I am at the very end of my studies but I feel nothing; no excitement, no desire to be done with it; nothing. Because why should I study? My studies will not make me closer to God in any way. Yet I feel the pressure to finish my studies: I do not want to see the disappointment on my parents face. That is the only thing that kept me going.

And surprisingly I am not failing. Even though I worked only on days before exams, I passed with average grades. Finishing the studies is perhaps also what is scary to me. I will be expected to enter the job market, search for a slave job I do not want. I fear that once I enter that world, all will be lost for me. Why is it that consecrating your life to the engineering of some temporal, useless gadgets is seen as something great, but consecrating your life to God is wasting your life.

How on earth am I supposed to exit this damned loop? I do not want to study or work because I fear that I am wasting my time by not consecrating it to God, yet at the same time the societal pressure keeps me on the edge of my studies. Which during the past 9 month resulted in me generally not doing anything good at all. As I said I crammed during all-nighters before the exams, but other than that I just… lived. I went biking. I read some books. I gardened. So I do not think that I am depressed, but I simply do not know what to do with myself. The only thing that I wish is to do something to help the poor; to join a monastic order. But I am to scared of what that implies.

> pic related: me if I was a 19th century woman

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d2466b  No.818831

>>818830

Same 2 you buddy


d2466b  No.818832

>>818830

>when you cant win an argument so you ad hom


497c08  No.818835

>>818832

This isn't an argument. Seeing the image you posted of the Lord signals to me that it isn't even worth explaining to you why >>818815 is in error. You've set into your own position, only God can help it.


d2466b  No.818836

>>818835

>not an argument

Do you honestly believe you should just sit and watch your christian brothers be murdered instead of help them?


d2466b  No.818837

>>818835

If your position is actually true you could show it via scripture




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61889b  No.804212[Reply]

Do you believe a holy war is coming to Europe between Muslims and Christians? As in India, where Hindus and Muslims have been fighting for the past few hundred years after the Muslims invaded, now Europe is being invaded. Do you think Christians and Muslims will begin clashing in Europe?

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e7c687  No.818484

Speak for yourself, if you yourself are dead, a dead coward >>804441


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4f4597  No.818497

No, given most Euros are secularists and atheists, more accurately a war between muslims and secularists is what would happen


467efc  No.818546

>>818455

Yes it mentions Masons will take over the Colonies which will become the Republic and infiltrate the Church.


b480fc  No.818548

>>804212

>>804212

>Do you believe a holy war is coming to Europe between Muslims and Christians?

Only if Europeans fall for jewish tricks.

Evangelicals seem the most susceptible to anti-muslim antagonism, so do many on the pagan far-right.




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4d6847  No.815536[Reply]

just an extract from the instrumentum laboris of the Synod

"There is a need for a process of discernment in relation to the rituals, symbols and celebratory styles of indigenous cultures in contact with nature, which must be assumed in the liturgical and sacramental ritual. It is suggested that the liturgical celebrations be festive, with their own songs and dances, in tongues and with original costumes, in communion with nature and with the community.A liturgy that corresponds to their own culture, to be the source and summit of their Christian life (SC, 10), and linked to their struggles, sufferings and joys. The sacraments should be a source of life and medicine accessible to all (EG 47), especially to the poor (EG 200). It is asked to overcome the rigidity of a discipline that excludes and alienates, in favor of a pastoral sensitivity that accompanies and integrates (AL 297) In view of a salutary "decentralization" of the Church (EG, 16), the communities ask Episcopal Conferences to adapt the Eucharistic rituals to their own cultures." (n. 126)

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38dbdf  No.818499

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>>818435

Lol, just because you were born an raised a pagan doesn't give you a free pass from the sins you commit in life. If your shitty religion has you commiting buttsechs on others or murdering people or a other sins, you will be held accountable for it. Besides, we live in the age of the Internet. Where near unlimited knowledge is accessible to anyone and everyone. Shit even in public school you are taught about the true religion. "Invincible ignorance" is extremely rare to come by in today's time.

There is no excuse to not become a Christian and come home to Rome.


a9cebf  No.818501

>>818435

No. One has "invincible ignorance" when he hasn't had decent christian basics taught to him and after lots of research on its own came to an honest conclusion that it didn't make sense to him.

This means that everybody who grew up in school who had religious lessons about God, His Church and the bible have no excuse, but your average nomad on the steppes of Mongolia do.

Also, you cannot just go and say to every pagan/atheist "hey God exists and Christ is His Son cya!" and declare that they had heard about God.

God's not a pharisee, He looks at the spirit of the law not the letter.


d684fa  No.818502

>your average nomad on the steppes of Mongolia do.

So then why would Christ even have a public ministry…? Why wouldn't he just die on the cross without making any disciples or anything and let everyone get to Heaven through invincible ignorance…? Is he just self-aggrandizing and uncaring?


38dbdf  No.818515

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>>818502

What part of "Invincible ignorance doesn't save you from the sins you commit in life" did you not understand?

Jesus sacrificed Himself so we can know the way tword God. So we can know God authentically and have a path carved for us to His kingdom in heaven.


d3521d  No.818538

>>818501

St. Thomas said you have to believe in the Trinity and Incarnation. Most have held this as the bare minimum. He said that if you were actually invincibly ignorant God would send a Man or Angel to give you the faith.




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15dc3b  No.818361[Reply]

He wasn't a perfect man, and wasn't immune to the intrigue that plagues so many royal families. Neither did he care much for theology, but I believe his conversion and the dream/vision he saw was genuine.

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710e7b  No.818519

>>818514

You are a fool is what you are


accc3d  No.818520

>>818518

Afaik he is not on our martyrology, or venerated on any of the days. http://www.ewtn.com/v/experts/showmessage.asp?number=321790 So I don't have to venerate him


710e7b  No.818522

>>818520

Why don't you like him


accc3d  No.818524

>>818522

Sinful life without massive repentance (not saying I don't have a sinful life, I am talking in the context of veneration), was an Arian at a point, attempted to use the authority of bishops for political purposes (calling the council was this, he didn't want this conclusion but the Holy Spirit guided them), an extremely violent character (I acknowledge ruler Saints but tend not to like them personally, all emperors/kings, etc, are violent by necessity), caused a Church Father to soften his whole position on Christians and violence, and such things.


710e7b  No.818529

>>818524

1.the intrigue in his life was par for the course among monarchs and emperors, and not even the worst among Christian rulers. He did repent and was baptized eventually

2. He was not an Arian, he said that jesus and God were of the same substance and exiled Arius

3 he called the council to end the bickering between Christians

4. As you said, emperors are violent by necessity, so I don't know why you brought that up

I don't care that you don't venerate him, but to say his conversion was not genuine is just foolish. If he had stuck with the old gods he would have been revered like a god. Instead he chose truth and did what he could for the faith




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895107  No.816995[Reply]

What are some essential /christian/ bands?

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cbc0a6  No.818392

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ac5dd2  No.818417

>>817585

Downloaded


ac5dd2  No.818418

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How is it, nobody has posted Canldemass yet?


23f1d6  No.818457

DC Talk, Disciple, and Demon Hunter are some of my favorites as far as explicitly Christian bands go.


5435ea  No.818505

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>>818418

Because this cover puts me off that it might have blaspheming lyrics.

Any proofs that the band isn't? I'd give it a go then.




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f85786  No.814334[Reply]

Why are there no Catholic street preachers?

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716046  No.816005

>>814334

We Catholics street preach by looking our for the homeless and ill that are in the streets and hospitals. Not yelling at random strangers.


716046  No.816007

>>816005

s/our/out


ab12d0  No.816024

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>>814361

Render unto… uhh…


4a9127  No.816036

>>816024

anon was stupid, but either way acting like churches can't have money while we live in a material and primarily social/capitalist world is stupid unless you're a monk.


a3f3d5  No.818403

>>815027

Wrong, advertisements introduces that something to some people who would have otherwise never known about it.




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22592e  No.810668[Reply]

The average person believes that sodomy is only few decades old and that before that it was unthinkable and had to be hidden, while in fact it was rather common in high society, Oscar Wilde famously comes to mind, or Marquis de Sade his "120 Days of Sodom" before that. I've just read this article about the liberal consumerist economist John Maynard Keynes, which claims that he had around 100+ homosexual encounters at the turn of the 19th century, and that sodomy was rather widespread:

>He had 65 encounters in 1909, 26 in 1910, 39 in 1911…

>The Cleveland Street Scandal of 1889 alerted wider society to the practice of men procuring GPO telegram delivery boys for cheap sex in makeshift brothels

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/john-maynard-keynes-new-biography-reveals-shocking-details-about-the-economists-sex-life-10101971.html

What was the true extent of sodomy in the West before 1960, in the 19th century, 18th century, 17th century and before that?

What have the churches done about this, and what was their excuse for not doing more?

Sodomy is a disease that spreads, statistics has proven this since it's more widespread in recent generations. Afflicted men infect unafflicted men and boys and the disease spreads, people rarely repent. Therefore if it was rooted out earlier a great evil could've been prevented, so why was it allowed to get this far.

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bfb183  No.814964

>>814914

Sodomy has always existed, even in recent times. (Just look at the Wild West and the existence of brothels in nearly every town)

The problem is that society has largely condemned sodomy, prostitution and sexual degeneracy/perversion since the West became Christian. We are no reverting to pagan-tier society where sexual degeneracy is the norm, not that the strange and frowned upon outcasted minority.


bfb183  No.814965

>>814964

*We are now


20d188  No.816499

>>814914

>CS Lewis mentions sodomy in his books

Which ones?


d6c5eb  No.816543

>>810668

>The average person believes that sodomy is only few decades old and that before that it was unthinkable and had to be hidden

You mean the average person on this board? The average person, at least in America, believes it's always been around and 10% of people have always been gay and even the birds and the bees do it. And on this board I would assume everyone knows it at least goes back to, well, Sodom (and earlier).


5cae11  No.818394

Nice to know that a sodomite invented the economic model that the whole world uses today, no wonder women are working and nobody's having children.




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c31cbd  No.804002[Reply]

How possible do you think is for the Orthodox-Catholic churches to unite and the Roman church to become one of the Pentarchy again, with all the honours and privileges it had before the schism?

I was looking at some videos and i realise that the Popes are already acting as one of the Patriarchs, maybe first among equals but still. The hegemonic attitude of the past is long gone. No more submit to Rome claims (irl not /christian/ LARP). A lot of theological dialogues and joint statements on dogmatical issues and misunderstandings have already been made.

How do you Cathos and Orthos feel about that?

Vid related: Pope Francis kisses the hand of the Orthodox Patriarch. Something that i believe was unthinkable only one century ago.

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c63543  No.805055

>>805050

>because Catholics will under no circumstances concede to the "first among equals" position.

There's certainly a way in which the Pope is "first" (no one will disagree with that) and a way in which the Pope and the other bishops are "equals" (or else, the Pope would be ordained in a different way than other bishops, but he's not - sacamentally speaking, he is a bishop, like other bishops).

It doesn't tell the whole story, of course, but it's not as if the formula "first among equals" is intrinsically unacceptable to Catholics. The issue is with what this "firstness" is and what the "equality" between bishops is.


35d201  No.805061

>>805047

Sorry now I read your post correctly. Yes, I think it's already somewhat accepted as a theologoumenon. Eastern Catholics (and I suppose many western ones too) read the philokalia. I know that a lot of Catholics visit Athos and other Orthodox monasteries. Regardless what people say in this board, the Greek monastic tradition is not considered heretical by the Catholic church.


35d201  No.805062

>>805061

Meant for>>805044


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a1e4c2  No.818369

>>804002

When the Lord decides the proper reparations for the Schism have been paid. Remember the Lord could end the schism in a second if he so chose to do so but he refuses to for it is a part of his divine plan.

Now I am going to start mention Fatima so bear with me but I think either the first or last to come back into communion is the Russian Orthodox. Just by the fact Our Lady mentions specifically consicrating Russia to her Immaculate Heart and mentioned Russia in apparitions from 500 years ago. So the Lord still has a plan for Russia.

In my true opinion the laity are the ones who need to pray for reparations and fast for a miracle that will end the entire schism. Yes inroads have been made but as long as the issues are not addressed which probably won’t happen without divine revelations the schism will remain.




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081e7b  No.809858[Reply]

What do you think about the shortage of eligible men in the church?

>I can talk to any young woman in my social circle and they will, one and all, say the same thing: there just aren’t any men. What we mean by this is there is a frightening scarcity of men aged 25-35 who are church-going, single and worldly-wise.

>Most men I meet have two out of three of these qualities, with the latter often lacking. If they’re single church-goers, they’re usually awkward and in want of basic social awareness (a big turn-off for most women). If they’re more worldly, they’re generally not single or not religious. Even if they’re not religious, most young Australian men hold views and values that are left of centre and utterly opposed to our own.

https://www.catholicweekly.com.au/for-want-of-a-lot-of-good-men/

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2b0e23  No.817740

>>813230

Great post.

>I strongly suggest women start looking into male-run churches because, if they want strong, Christian men, they aren't going to find them at some wussy female-preacher, being gay is okay church

Yes, and truly male-run churches, mind you. None of this nonsense where you have a male pastor or two and several female "x directors" who really run things, or Catholic priests that are bullied into submission by Boomer women on the parish council.

>>817729

>college educated ... people don't tend to be Christian

Ftfy. It's no wonder they aren't, given how most college professors actively feed their students an atheistic agenda. I would not consider those individuals to be "well educated", but rather "indoctrinated".

>worldly people don't tend to be Christian

If we are to assume "worldly people" means "those accustomed to how the world works", then no. Christians aren't the ones struggling with the meaning of their existences, killing themselves off in great numbers, barely reproducing (and when they do, it's typically by accident), supporting self-destructive policies, pursuing short-term pleasures over long-term rewards (e.g. having casual sex instead of raising a family), and so forth. If by "worldly people" you actually mean "those transformed by the world", then yes, those people are the opposite of Christians.


8e64cd  No.818023

>>810097

The long and short of Ben Shapiro is that he is the neocons attempt at appealing to gen z. They pushed him with those Ben Shapiro ANALLY RAPES feminist with FACTS AND LOGIC videos, but all he cares about is the US being brought into war for Israel's interest. Also he promotes the Judeo-Christian lie, which erases the importance of the Christian faith to the development of the West.


b807b2  No.818312

>>813230

>Women want to be spiritual without giving up comfort.

This is the exact phrasing I needed, thank you.


187fbf  No.818316

>>812268

so I am not the only one who wants to escappe to the vast emptiness of the Russian far east huh?


e3a9d4  No.818355

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>>812268

Begome celibade.




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13b217  No.818292[Reply]

How and what to meditate while praying the rosary? How do you guys do it? I'd really like to know,thanks in advance

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13b217  No.818301

>>818296

i should have read the bible then..


6bfd2d  No.818302

>>818301

Yes. Catholics need to read the Bible otherwise they will have trouble with the prayers and dedications they do. It is also plenary indulgence to read Holy Scripture piously for half an hour also meeting the other requirements but yes Catholics NEED to read the Bible with all 73 books.


6bfd2d  No.818303

>>818301

Also you sound like you are just getting started so don’t worry to much it is more about developing the habit early on the rest will follow if you recite it daily.

For a beginner just focus on each mystery as basically as possible then overtime develop deeper meditation with the help of Scrupture.


349ead  No.818353

>>818303

I suggest OP get the Laudate app. Their digital rosary comes with good, evocative little bits of text for each mystery, making it easy to picture in your kind.

And you can learn the Latin text with the app. I like Latin so I prefer that.


349ead  No.818354

>>818353

*picture in your head

Stupid phone




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1a8bfd  No.816826[Reply]

John 3:10 proves the Trinity

>“I and My Father are one.”

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6b25f9  No.817431

>>817387

>Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.

>Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt

I assumed this is referring to the Exodus, please correct me if I am mistaken


8bd79d  No.817433

The entire Bible, from start to finish, clearly can be used to prove the Trinity. Oneness heretics are a joke.


d59350  No.817435

>>817431

It does refer to the Exodus. I speak of the other anon's claim that the verse prove trinitarian doctrine.

The KJV need not imply that nor do any other translations I quickly checked. The text you provided at least let me understand the claim which I missed on first reading. Thanks.

My Greek is not worth speaking of so if anyone can confirm why Lord/Kyrios in that sentence necessarily refers to Christ it would be great to know.


b3bd87  No.818007

>>817435

the verse before uses the same word (Κυριος) to refer to Jesus Christ.

the verse before also talks of 'our Lord God' but the greek is written as: 'Θεου ημων'.


72cdbf  No.818286

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Genesis 1:26

And God said, Let US make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Genesis 3:22

And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of US, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever.




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5aeff2  No.818092[Reply]

I am the guy who asked how we know the gods are really demons. I'd like you to examine my hypothesis.

In Greek/ROman mythology Zeus/Juiptar (the semi god, because he did not create the Universe) says this: “What! That young Titan!” he cried. “Well, I will punish him in a way that will make him wish I had shut him up in the prison-house with his kinsfolk. But as for those puny men, let them keep their fire. I will make them ten times more miserable than they were before they had it.”

I believe this could very well be Satan's handiwork that is used to make modern people hate gods (including Yahweh/Jesus/The Holy Spirit[I don't know his Y name])

There is also Shiva. Shiva is a great symbol of bad stuff being for the greater good (as it commonly is) but it brings it to the fore front of the mind and I believe this very well could be Satan trying to make bad good.

I have nothing for Odin/Woten, but I don't doubt that there is one.

Penny for your thoughts?

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830a97  No.818186

>>818092

>I have nothing for Odin/Woten

He's Nimrod


643300  No.818261

>>818186

Incorrect. He was likely based on the legendary king Dan I, namesake of the Danes.


0bf07d  No.818262

>>818261

>king Dan I

He's Nimrod too


db1555  No.818274

>>818092

if what you're suggesting is

>pagan gods are actually fallen angels attempting to usurp God by each affecting the role of a deity, benevolent or otherwise

then you're absolutely right

But the Greek view of divine malevolence and frivolousness was an invented mechanism by which they upheld their own blamelessness, and so maintained their pride, even when subjected to the wrath of these gods. Offering an evil "other" that affirms your "innate good" tempts as many people away from Holiness as the honeyed promises of a false god, even in secular applications - a fact we sorely feel the effects of today.


643300  No.818276

>>818262

Nimrod wasn’t omnipresent/omnipotent. He’s mentioned like once in the entire Bible. Go check the genealogies.




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