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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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a7faa7  No.809913[Reply]

I am looking to buy a study Bible for the Orthodox faith, and am just wondering which version you would recommend

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f91ff7  No.809960


Yeah people or the markets in the modern day do tend to often push for all-in-one deluxe package solutions to things.

5e4420  No.809963


Considering how complicated the entire world is, a one-stop general guide is better than nothing which is the likelier outcome if it wasn't offered. Professional aptitude and diversity of knowledge is still important, and not everybody is equipped to handle serious research like that. For die hards, absolutely go nuts. Probably should learn Greek and Hebrew though. But for those of us who need some grounding, a simpler plan is less likely to fail.

f91ff7  No.809966


Study bibles probably aren't taken along as much for stuff like door to door preaching like the JWs do. Don't know how much they'd get used in religious services either. You can also have ebooks saved on a variety of devices.

5e4420  No.809967


The pragmaticism of a study bible comes from the ability to receive appropriate instruction without having to cover the groundwork. They would download and use the OSB and not have to stop every five minutes to switch from one to the other to the other, then cross reference this verses translation with that verses translation, even if that is the most accurate or best way. We have to rely on members of the Church (who mainly compiled it) who remain in Good standing with the rest of the Church by others who we profess to believe as being valid to deliver an accurate book. A simpler routine is likelier to be stuck to, and the more people learn the better.

I have never said it is flawless or perfect or the absolute only study bible, just that it's the most reccomended and pragmatic book compiled with newcomers in mind.

f91ff7  No.809971


Yeah sure it's probably more convenient but simply opening multiple tabs on a device isn't that much more difficult either. In other situations for private personal study a variety of options become increasingly feasible.

Also a less popular but possibly greatly efficient option are bible apps.

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537d38  No.785185[Reply]

>raised protestant (Church of Christ)

>agnostic at 13

>atheist at 14

>gnostic occultist at 15

>protestant (Church of Christ) again at 17

>Orthodox at 20

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bf2bb7  No.809804


>raised catholic

>le confused atheist at 9

>deist by 15

>notice world going to shit because of socialism and nihilism. thanks karl marx

> at 18 it was very obvious marx was a satanist / luciferian. thanks internet

>i already hated marx so i figured id be the exact opposite of him now (other factors led me to do this too like hating hook up culture)

>i return to Christianity and start studying the bible. also start nofap

i dont know if picking a religion based off of hatred for something else is honorable but i guess the enemy of my enemy is my friend. i really do like being christian. feels much better than when i was nihilistic. can someone help me choose what sub religion to pick? orthodoxy seems pretty popular here.

78ecdd  No.809814


>can someone help me choose what sub religion to pick?

A lot of reading (i.e. the Bible; Early Church writings; books, websites, Study Bibles, etc. slanted toward a particular denomination so that you can understand their doctrine, theology and exegesis/eisegesis of the Bible.):


A lot of visitations; attend multiple churches of various denominations; judge them by their fruit (i.e. the general character of the pastors/priests, parishioners, how well does said church match up with Biblical doctrine, etc)

The sad truth is everyone who leans towards a denomination, including me, is going to try to nudge you in that direction. But you're honestly better off investigating and figuring out things on your own and coming to your own conclusions while doing the aforementioned, and praying to God on this matter without ceasing.

The sad truth is that the time when you could just hear the gospel, and just jump into baptism just like that seems to be a distant memory. Unfortunately, nowadays, there are too many false prophets; too many wolves in sheeps clothing; churches that tell you to just shut your brain up and just trust their authority; churches that specifically prey on the human desire for an emotional/spiritual "high"…. if God wills it, you more than likely will have to become somewhat of an amateur theologian in order to be truly confident in your faith.

Read, Test the churches, and most of all: Pray. Pray with all your might and all your sincerity to Almighty God, that He may lead you to his one True Truth.

38bfd8  No.809870


This is basically me, anon, except I havn't found a particular Protestant denomination I really agree with yet.

But being a catechumen myself has been an eye opening experience for me. I'm glad I did it, but damn does Orthodoxy take extra-biblical stuff to a level I don't think even Catholics would be ok with if they knew the true depths of it.

d8e85f  No.809907


Gonna get banned probably, but here it comes:

> born Orthodox

> at age 7 realize I'm afraid of God's wrath, end up praying every evening before sleep saying "God you aren't an idiot, and I love you a lot"

> don't doubt God's existence until 14-16, a guy memes me into becoming atheist (I literally based my belief on memes)

> between 16 and 18 I pretty much call myself a deist/atheist

> at 19 I call all people who believe in God retards, and publically reject them. I literally told people "sorry I don't think I want to speak to you, you're Christian and that's delusional

> somewhere here I almost sell my soul to the devil (didn't cut my finger to get blood, but not sure whether it was legit), also said Shahada as a joke

> at 20-21 start searching for spirituality, I even try buddhism, meditating often and shaving my head as well as offering food to spirits according to buddhist rituals

> at 21 start realizing that belief is not that irrational as some smart people were Christians as well, get rebaptized as a joke, or so my friends thought (I acknowledge only one baptism - the one when I was a child). Join Lutheran Church, as I agreed with many of their points (not woman priests or gay marriage though).

> decide on studying theology to know Bible better, while I was a semi-Andersonite

> start accepting women as priests

> still conservative on gayhood

> 23 now, will most likely become a priest, as there are few of them in my country. in the recent weeks started supporting gay marriage - I believe that in our decadent society making gays live a faithful to eachother life is the best option. Still believe that the Scripture teaches that homozegz is a sin, but it is the best call in my opinion.

I'm sorry if you disagree with me, this is just who I am, and what I believe. I hope that God is merciful to my soul if I'm wrong

78ecdd  No.809926


> start accepting women as priests

Time and time again, this is one of the first camel's noses in the tent that starts the slippery slope to compromise, heresy and apostasy….

>Still believe that the Scripture teaches that homozegz is a sin, but it is the best call in my opinion.

<God says homosexuality is a sin. So let's corrupt his church, body and doctrine further by making this sin more legitimate and acceptable.

I love you anon, in Christly love….but I honestly have no words.

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34ec54  No.809565[Reply]

Anyone else posting from this forsaken hell? I'm lonely

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34ec54  No.809622


I've never met a christian here under 60

553234  No.809630


ur stupid

163bb9  No.809635


From the metro east.

0be53f  No.809815

Same anon, different IP


You're in SIUE? What denomination are you? (Not to chew you out or anything if it's not the same as mine, I'm not like that)

34ec54  No.809881


ye. LCMS Lutheran

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de6b22  No.809444[Reply]

And he will protect his tribe at all costs and call everyone an anti-Semite instead of embracing Christ.

You might have seen the debate between him and Dr. E.Michael Jones and how he was not listening to what Dr. Jones was saying and trying to protect the Jews at all cost. Then, he blamed Dr.Jones has a "Christian Anti-Semite" and responsible for the Synagogue Shooting…And he also edited the video on his channel to put words in the mouth of EMJ and then lied about it when he got caught.

And now, he has sunken to a even lower point when he interviewed Rev. Ted Pike, it's just a pathetic behavior and this Dr.Brown guy is extremely dangerous if he gets his way, he is more worried to protect his tribe of the children of Satan at all cause than to embrace Jesus-Christ, by spreading lies, sophism and misdirection.

If he gets his way, and that you disagree with his obvious protestant jew-centrist interpretation of the bible, he will send you to jail for being a "Christian anti-Semite".

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d6f82d  No.809808


In addition St. Thomas Aquinas says it is Jews, and that God's wrath is on them until the end of time.

Thirdly, Paul considers their sin in its relation to the whole human race, when he says: and oppose all men. “His hand against every man and every man’s hand against him” (Gen. 16:12). And they are antagonistic, because they prohibit and impede the preaching to the Gentiles, and also the conversion of the Gentiles. In Acts 10 and 11 Peter is criticized for having gone to Cornelius; also in Luke 15 the elder son, the Jewish people, is disturbed because the younger son, the Gentile people, is received by the father. “Woe to him who says to a father, ‘What are you begetting”’ (Is. 45:10). “Would that all the Lord’s people were prophets” (Num. 11-29).

The reason for this sin is found in the divine permission, by which God wills that they fill up the measure of their sins. Indeed, for all things which come about, either good or bad, there is a certain measure, because nothing is infinite; and the measure of all these things is in [God’s] foreknowledge. The measure of good things is what it prepares, for “grace was given to each of us according to the measure of Christ’s gift” (Eph. 4:7); the measure of evil things, however, is what it permits, for if some are “evil, they are not as evil as they want, but as God permits. And, therefore, they live until they attain that which God permits: “Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers” (Matt. 23:32). So Paul says: so as always to fill up the measure of their sins. For after the suffering of Christ, God gave the Jews forty years to repent, but they were not converted; rather they multiplied their sins. God did not permit this to go on, so Paul states: but Gods wrath has come upon them until the end. “For great is the wrath of the Lord that is kindled against us, because our fathers have not obeyed the words of this book, to do according to all that is written concerning us (2 Kg22:13). “For great distress shall be upon the earth and wrath upon this people” (Lk. 21:23). And you should not think that this wrath shall last for one hundred years only, but until the end of the world, when all the Gentiles will have embraced [the Christian reliPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

4c4943  No.809843


I was talking about EMJ mostly for the discipline thing.


>St. Theresa is good for mystical matters, but not about current politics and how its affecting people.

If you want to enlighten people about current politics, get a radio talk show host(or podcast one, nowadays).

>As you have seen on this board, people are converting from /pol/ and coming to Christ.

Mate, i've been hearing that bs on this board for years.

/pol/'s the same.

>Using the word Logos can help you reach an agnostic or someone who was otherwise skittish about Christianity. Start with Logos, explain that it's the divine order and the world was created with this, and then say it's Christ. Once they accept that there is Logos, then you can say that the embodiment, the incarnation of perfect Wisdom and Order is Jesus Christ.

I wasn't talking about the Logos thing.

But as a sidenote, you know we were converting philosophically minded people using the traditional argument for Logos, not this Chaos God of Order meme, right?

4c4943  No.809844


*traditional definitions and arguments very well

633841  No.809868


>I was talking about EMJ mostly for the discipline thing.

so what he criticizes his superiors, they aren't immune to criticism.

>If you want to enlighten people about current politics, get a radio talk show host(or podcast one, nowadays).

Lmao what? why should we shill for literal randos when we already have EMJ who talks not just about politics but history as well

>Mate, i've been hearing that bs on this board for years.

Still i can see that many people have been coming back to Christ due to his influence..

7e624a  No.809873


>at is written concerning us (2 Kg22:13). “For great distress shall be upon the earth and wrath upon this people” (Lk. 21:23). And you should not think that this wrath shall last for one hundred years only, but until the end of the world, when all the Gentiles will have embraced [the Christian religion], and then all of Israel shall be saved, as it appears from Rom. 10

Romans 9 makes it clear that Christians are now the nation of Israel, not people who were born from a genetic line.

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82a675  No.809595[Reply]

Ever since I was little I enjoyed crossdressing. I don't remember it so well, but when I was little, my parents would let me dress up in my sister's dresses and things.

As I grew older, I became aware that this wasn't socially acceptable within my society, so I stopped doing it, until a few years later when I discovered internet porn, when I was around 11 or 12. Specifically I discovered feminization porn and had many fantasies pertaining to it.

I was too afraid to buy women's clothing in person, I was very shy back then, and I had no credit card so I couldn't order any online, so I kept fetishizing it, until I came upon online communities that shamed me out of enjoying crossdressing fantasies at around 15/16, and I repressed my feelings.

Now I've long since abandoned those fantasies, and I've long since abandoned repression of them too, which I accomplished through acceptance, and refusing to care about human's judgements of me, and therefore removed the aspect of societal shame I felt while crossdressing. Once that shame was removed, the sexuality of it ebbed away too, after a few sessions where the fetishization still lingered during the first few moments.

I still enjoy crossdressing, but there's no sexuality involved anymore. I'm aware of the verse "A woman must not wear men's clothing, nor a man wear women's clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this."

So I guess my question is, do you think god detests me? Something i'm afraid of is that God made me a transgender woman, do you think that's something that God does? It would help explain why I enjoy dressing like a woman… If I am one, do you think He wants me to go through with a transition? I'm not saying God makes mistakes, I know He doesn't, but it's true that all humans are imperfect because of original sin, so maybe this is just one of my imperfections… but i'm not sure what i'm supposed to do! When I wear a dress it makes me feel nice… and this whole time… i'm not exactly sure why i'm bringing this up or how to summarize it succinctly but i'm kind of afraid that I became legitimately traumatized growing up! Maybe because of porn, maybe because of bullying, maybe because of self hatred, maPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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6e6bb6  No.809659


Are they women's jeans?

5bf07d  No.809660


I think there's no clear dividing line, just things that are definitely not okay. So for instance a woman wearing her husband's trousers or old jacket I would say is fine… but women's clothes are often designed to objectify the wearer, whereas men's clothes are designed to convey positive attributes about the person wearing them.

So maybe women's clothes themselves are just so especially wrong that not even women should be wearing them. Don't get me wrong, women should wear feminine clothes, but that's not what happens in practice; instead women wear clothes which are basically just slutty, especially informal wear for young women.

7fd409  No.809742



> Something i'm afraid of is that God made me a transgender woman, do you think that's something that God does?

< I don't remember it so well, but when I was little, my parents would let me dress up in my sister's dresses and things.

< I discovered internet porn, when I was around 11 or 12.

I think these two should be reason enough to explain why you would want to cross-dress. There is no such thing as a "trans-gender". By that I don't mean that there are no people who feel like they are in the wrong body, I mean that they are not actually in the wrong body. The human mind is very malleable when it is still young and we do not yet (and likely never will) understand how it is formed, but we do know that even little things can leave permanent scars. For example, did you get special attention when you were little for putting on a dress? That could have conditioned your brain to associate crossdressing with getting a feeling of reward.

b89191  No.809809


Your disordered desires have left granted you a reprobate sense. Anon, this is a very serious disorder. You must endure severe fasting and prayer in order to realize how perverse your desire is and overcome it. You'd be amazed at how your illusions simply disappear when you go without food for 24 hours. Also yes, women who wear jeans are sinning against modesty and indirectly distorting gender roles. These may seem small but they snowball into society collapsing consequences.

4517b6  No.809827

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this has to be a troll post from an atheist or muslim board or something right? you faggots make jesus sad, whether this is for real or not

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e36a6f  No.809679[Reply]

Why is death the punishment for sin in general and not just specific sins? I looked up the list of capital offences in the Old Testament and it’s surprisingly short (not to mention, only applicable to those under the Mosaic covenant).

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e36a6f  No.809724

I also thought the idea was that Christianity WAS the religion of the ancient Israelites. It’s the same religion.

672736  No.809737


Its not a "punishment" in judicial sense, but in as much as vomiting is a punishment for drinking poison. God is life and sin is rebellion and refusal against God, so naturally decay and death enters when we stray from him. In addition to that, it was to prevent mankind to be immortal in sin and wickedness.

e36a6f  No.809739


I perfectly agree. That’s the Orthodox position. So I guess my question is targeted towards Catholics and Protestants, most of whom adopt a judicial theory of the atonement of Jesus Christ.

6755f4  No.809783


>only applicable to those under the Mosaic covenant

Any person and even animals were to be killed if they stepped foot on the mountain when Moses went up.

e36a6f  No.809787


Ok. Were those animals in a covenantal relationship with God then?

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aed6a3  No.809316[Reply]

This man scientifically proved the existence of God. What have you done?

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39265d  No.809684


Big Bang doesn't even work, they have no idea what Dark Matter is. Dark matter is just like…oh well if this was there our equations would work. Except it's not there… but if only it was there, then our junk models would work! But it's not there… let's just say it's there but we can't find it!

God is holding the universe together and he created it Ex Nihilo approximately 6000 years ago. He created the world like I would boot up a Virtual Machine image. He just thought about the world and it existed.

2253ea  No.809688


>>admits to having an Anti-catholic bias

>>still comes here regardless

Last time I checked this board is named /christian/ and not /catholic/, but deceivingly so, because the moderation is entirely Catholic.

58e693  No.809719


I sure wouldn't want the mods to be anything less than Christian.

0ea756  No.809723


Lmao they said the same thing about gravity. Isaac Newton thought that. Then relativity actually showed us what gravity was.

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9bd40d  No.807842[Reply]

I'm looking for some books to strengthen my prayer life

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96c163  No.809305

Aight guys since this was an interesting thread I 'll bump it by saying I ordered the "Orthodox Prayerbook" from some priest 300km away.

If all goes well I'll have it within a few weeks.

You guys better deliver some quality or I'll be forced to buy an English one or heck even make one myself.

242934  No.809306



This site has a bunch of pre-V2 offices, you can pray it in Latin if you want, which is useful for when you cant find one in your language

96c163  No.809457


Thanks but I already know the site.

I want a book for the evenings when I try to avoid screen light.

I used to use my phone for this, but a book is much more preferable.

1a5af9  No.809644


>Best Prayer Books?

Its called The Book of Psalms

4a2d99  No.809683

I know this is probably not what you are looking for, but I find reading the commentary of Lapide is really good: http://www.catholicapologetics.info/scripture/newtestament/Lapide.htm

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23e3fd  No.800004[Reply]

Can someone PLEASE convince me that Sedevacantism is correct, or even somewhat tenable? The state of the Church leaves me feeling broken everyday… the crisis and apostasy within the Church and among the laity is at least as bad as the Arian crisis, if not worse.

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7bbe8f  No.804808

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4d50ce  No.804809


That just reeks of Roman centric thinking in itself. You're projecting. Constantinople isn't even important except to the most needlessly nostalgic Orthodox. We're not singled minded or see Constantinople as some beacon everyone must follow.

I'll point out what I've said in the Orthodox thread about this:

Erdogan has built 9000 mosques within the last 10 years alone.


Not one church is built, existing ones in disrepair, and no one is allowed to even preach the gospel in the city. Meanwhile, Patriarch Bartholomew has written multiple books on Global Warming. Talk about a man with priorities.

I wish I was making up what a comedy this whole affair is. Does this sound the like the leader of a church to you? They could join Rome right now and I don't think many would follow.

4e8d9a  No.804873

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Peter III is who you're thinking of. I want Palmarian aesthetics in the Vatican

fbde77  No.804946

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23e3fd  No.809667

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Just saw this. Can any Sedes give their thoughts?

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e5a77b  No.809134[Reply]

I don't know what to do or where to go. Janitors/mods please have mercy on me if this breaks some rules.

I have been plagued with homosexual temptations since I was 11 years old (now 18). About the same age I was introduced to internet pornography (no surprise). I've been resisting them as much as I can over the years. I'm attracted to and have only dated women, but deep within my mind an attraction and urge to engage with men has existed, tormenting me. Tonight, I failed. I thought I had put all of the crossdressing, gay urges, etc behind me but iy resurfaced in a way that I succumbed to. I engaged in sexual actions with other men only a few hours ago.

I don' know what to do. How do I fight/rid myself of these urges? I don't feel any guilt and that worries me. I don't want to be a sodomite. Please help me and pray for me.

ITT: How to combat homosexual urges.

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78b862  No.809218


I'm sorry, anon, I know how difficult it is to struggle with the carnal urge. I will pray for you. I hope this resource helps you: https://couragerc.org/

d5587f  No.809272

I feel you OP. I also suffer with degenerate sexual impulses but in my case I like little girls. I do my best to fight these feelings, and I don't believe I'll ever act on them. I'm sorry you have acted on yours and I will pray for you.

c98054  No.809335



Imagine cutting out your fantasies spiritually with a knife just like you are actually cutting off a part of your body

Also keep fasting and praying in this process.

Best of luck, christanons

d5587f  No.809359


Fasting has helped in the past. Thank you.

a45d87  No.809613


So how did it go Op? Are you feeling better?

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61d6e0  No.808863[Reply]

I honestly don't know how to react. Homosexuality was shut down earlier this year at the impromptu general conference that these heretics pushed, wasting untold sums of money that could have been put to better use. Now they've decided to have a secret meeting where the identities of people attending are kept secret (unless they're dumb enough to post on Twitter) and none of the meeting is live streamed or recorded since this meeting hasn't been sanctioned by the church.

These people are rejecting the word of God and the law of man that they swore to abide by. Our bishops are too spineless to actual follow the Book of Discipline. My local church's admin council has begun putting together an exit strategy if these heretics manage to push homosexuality through.

I don't even know what I want to do. I just wish these people would leave and make their own church without trying to corrupt the church that my family has followed for centuries.

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042cf2  No.809400


It should be very clear to you that the Methodist church is not the church of God, it's a heretical church. That's good to know! Now you just have to find a church that doesn't compromise on sodomy. Not many churches are left.

042cf2  No.809401


You guys allow remarriage and birth control, making you beyond pozzed. Birth control is what has created this clown world. Also first of all the LXX is not the source text, and do you have the Hebrew version of Matthew? We aren't Mohammedans worshipping text. Secondly we (I know you don't believe) say that the old vulgate is infallibly free from error in faith and morals. That's good enough for me. There still is no definitive Greek NT. Is the longer ending of Mark in the original Greek NT? Pericope adulterae? And so on.

I've come to realize Birth Control is probably one of the biggest factors that has created this whole clown world, and the fact that your priests actually compromise on it shows how terrible it is. We may have a homo mafia, but they haven't been able to get anything done in terms of changing any doctrine. This is of course not speaking of all the numerous heresies like denying purgatory, denying the immaculate conception, etc.

01940c  No.809494


>We may have a homo mafia, but they haven't been able to get anything done in terms of changing any doctrine.

What is religious liberty? What is the death penalty?

And is doctrine what your ecclesiastics actually teach and what your laymen actually practice, or is doctrine what is written down in some official book somewhere that everyone ignores? Because according to the first definition, the modern Catholic Church is basically a new religion (which is why the term "Conciliar Church" came into use).

af7a10  No.809556

>church of justice

that's a scary idea

042cf2  No.809592


You cannot read anything new in a way that contradicts previous readings. Death penalty is not anywhere near infallible, and since I don't want to go too deep into V2, religious liberty is only for non Catholic countries. A Catholic country never has to have religious liberty. And these are absolutely nothing compared to divorce and birth control, which is the worst garbage ever.

Doctrine is what Holy Mother Church teaches, not what a fallible priest teaches. Did the church change her doctrine when majority of Bishops were Arians? No. So it doesn't matter if majority of Bishops today even claim that you can sodomize people, because the church cannot and will not ever teach that.

Birth control is completely immoral and so is divorce and remarriage. I'm talking about the most practical heresies that you guys push. Not to mention the numerous theological heresies like denying the immaculate conception, purgatory and so on.

I mean you join a church where you can use birth control? That's not a church that's just harlotry.

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449b47  No.808661[Reply]

How important is it to be able to read the Bible in its original Latin?

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9f1fb2  No.809062


And freemarketists allow alcohol companies to promote malt liquor and Nikes in low income neighborhoods and finer beverages in upper income neighborhoods. Monks handled brewing knowing full well people were going to make theirselves drunk with it because it's all a source of revenue to the state. States relied on compensating and providing laborers with alcohol which is why alcoholism was more widespread in past ages and is even endemic to this day.

ba32ee  No.809103

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ba32ee  No.809104

Vaticanus, Sinaiaticus, and Alexandrinus are late bro

Papyri are where it's at. This pic is old

dc80c6  No.809564


Much of Biblical terminology has usages that are strongly linked to, for example, Hellenic philosophy, especially in the NT. Compare these two lines of John 1:1

>Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν, καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος.

>In principio erat Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat Verbum.

>λόγος =/= Verbo

In order to comprehend this sentence we need to know the whole meaning of Logos, for such meaning "WORD" is incomplete and misleading.

According to Plato, Logos not only designates the abstract categorisation of the world around us, but also that lies beyond the world itself manifested in the Divine Principle, which emanates from the One and Only God and reflects in our immediate world.

Seems like that for a complete understanding of the nuances embedded in the Sacred Scriptures, one must be well-versed in Latin and let alone Greek. Pretty much like Vedic studies require knowledge of Sanskrit to not corrupt its true meaning.

d81143  No.809589

It's nice to read it in it's original Latin, but it's not super useful. I would rather learn Latin so I could read Lapide's commentary, which most of it has not been translated yet. However his Latin is not easy Latin, whereas I've been told the Vulgate's Latin is fairly easy to read and understand.

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cfa233  No.799291[Reply]

Can women be priests/pastors?

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0d0b46  No.809215

Yeah, and so can transgender people, furries and internet celebrities.

c30319  No.809576


i think i was baptized by a women (was born into a progressive lutheran church), was it legitimate or should i look into getting baptized by a man?

5759b3  No.809581


Women can’t even be trusted to run a business or nations. You trust them with a Church?

31275d  No.809587


Probably not legitimate, doubt she knew how to baptize. She probably said in the name of the Momma, the daughter and the girl power. If your church allows for women to do stuff like that they're mega mega heretics. I think you have more than enough reason to doubt they did anything right. You can get conditionally baptized again to make sure that you were baptized. (This means you acknowledge if you were indeed baptized you are doing nothing, as to not commit sacrilege, but if it was invalid you want to get baptized).

31275d  No.809588


Women cannot be the head of a home, much less anything else.

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371ffa  No.804313[Reply]

Post Books/Movies/Music that isn't explicitly Christian but totally is Christian

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371ffa  No.807564

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Add also pic related

85bebc  No.809278


How dare you, its a great wholesome game where you actually pray to beat the game and where your dad calls you every hour to make sure you don't become a vidya addict. If I could only let my kids play a game it would be earthbound

4b50b7  No.809331

Are there any non-violent video games that are okay for Christians to play? I'm mainly looking for a hobby so I'm not idle and fapping as much. Or should video games not be played, violent or not?

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Sure. The zelda and mother franchise are a good place to start, great games with good morals, beautiful music and some christian imagery

45ced3  No.809447


The formatting is different because it's fitting all the dialogue from various text boxes spoken from Zelda. You can see for yourself if you rewatch the cutscene.

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36c163  No.808706[Reply]

Do you think there is a single Calvinist out there that doesn't consider himself one the mythical pre-chosen for salvation?

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8a682b  No.809365


>but the liturgy,

The Novus Ordo doesn't paint a very pretty picture of God.>>808880

>but the liturgy,

d24a30  No.809368



Passover meal in Lev 23

Leviticus 16 Scapegoat

Direct application:

Jesus revealed in the breaking of the bread in Luke 24,

The restoration of Thomas in John 20,

The picture of worship in Rev 4 (see esp 4:1)

the revelation of Christ in Matt 3 through Baptism,

the picture of the Eucharist in 1 Cor 1.

That's just for starters.

8bfd45  No.809431


the liturgy is tradition, Lex orandi, lex credendi

7c9716  No.809432


>the liturgy is tradition

It's neither normative nor descriptive tradition so why are you basing a definition on it?

e9317a  No.809453


whatever you say bro

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