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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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3fa760  No.797002[Reply]

I have a question about salvation. Is it wrong to accept Christ as your savior simply so you don't go to Hell? I can't help feel that following Him only to save your own skin is a very selfish reason. Is it reasonable to say that, because this reason is so selfish, you would not truely be saved?

Looking forward to your answers Christanons.

1e6cc6  No.797006

What you are describing is something called imperfect contrition, or attrition.

(contrition in general being the repenting of sins)

There are multiple levels

>Imperfection natural contrition (Called natural attrition)

>Imperfect supernatural contrition (Called supernatural attrition)

>Perfect supernatural contrition

Imperfect contrition or attrition (I will use this from now on) consists in repenting of something for fear of consequences. Natural attrition is repenting of something because of bad natural consequences. This would include things repenting of stealing because you go to jail, or have your reputation damaged. Supernatural attrition on the other hand is repenting of sins specifically because of supernatural consequences, included in this necessarily is some form of faith in Christ, Hell, Heaven, the eternal soul and many other things. So repenting because of your sins only because you don't want to go to hell is supernatural attrition, or imperfect supernatural contrition.

Perfect contrition is the key thing though, this is repenting of sins specifically do to love of God. This isn't very easy to do especially for people who are steeped in sins, and also very importantly it's impossible to know if you've done this.

Included in all of these is of course resolution to STOP sinning, and return to God.

You can see this in the traditional act of contrition.

O my God, I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee, and I detest all my sins because I dread the loss of Heaven and the pains of Hell; but most of all because they offend Thee, my God, Who art all-good and deserving of all my love. I firmly resolve, with the help of Thy grace, to confess my sins, to do penance, and to amend my life. Amen.

Now that contrition is covered, is this saving?

No of course not, you have to do what Christ said to be saved.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


1e6cc6  No.797007

This book goes very in depth with the different types of contrition https://www.ecatholic2000.com/cts/untitled-110.shtml


3fa760  No.797009

>>797006

>>797007

Wow, thank you greatly for your time and answers




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a795c0  No.793827[Reply]

ITT: post the greatest Christian rulers in history.

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1a9747  No.795253

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abbddf  No.795262

>>795199

He did repent on his death bed and received last rites.


2729d6  No.795285

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>>795041

>>794863

>>793874

>>793873

>>793872

>>793867

>>795114

Upvote

Pic related is the man I aspire to be like.


f51b51  No.795493

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6714a7  No.797005

Bump




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5f5356  No.796024[Reply]

1 Corinthians 11

>1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

>2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.

>3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

>4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.

>5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

>6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

>7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.

>8 For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.

>9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

>10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.

>11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.

>12 For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.

>13 Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?

>14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

>15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.

>16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.

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476571  No.796980

>>796934

(((But goyim if you want to desexualize the public space, that’s actually a sexual fetish. Everything is a sexual fetish because our tribesman Freud said so.)))


490c2e  No.796992

>>796220

And where's the part where she was shot?

Didn't happen.


490c2e  No.796994

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>>796957

>Modesty is a sexual fetish


980f82  No.796995

>>796992

lrn2 ID


3fe119  No.796996

>>796994

This is the internet, son. Literally everything is a sexual fetish. Did you forget where you are?




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671b6c  No.786869[Reply]

Are there any theological contradictions that make your faith tremble from time to time, /christian/s?

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509d14  No.795859

>>795788

maybe the g spot is the only place of sensitivity left, while the penis is strangled by 3x a day fapping.

No seriously, as a male your first instinct should be to rape, not to have the prostate tickled, which is quite irrelevant reproduction wise. If a sizable percentage of people likes that, then something is wrong, exposure to estrogen-like substances, porn, modern lifestyle, mind control, aliens, whatever.


509d14  No.795865

>>786966

>having fun

I suggest a bit of empirism. Look at the people who chose to have fun. Rockstars, billionaires, mafia men. Their eyes are void, they get dependent on drugs, suicide young.

Consider moreover that not all who choose the wide path end up succesfully evil like those people. Most drift into self destruction. Because Fun is not Happiness. Happiness is knowing you are. And Happiness itself, it is not the Truth.


212ec0  No.796894

Stefan Molyneux as a whole. The logical argument against Deity seems rock-solid.


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db41c9  No.796982

>>796086

brainlet




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5ab715  No.796950[Reply]

Is the word going to burn?

He actually said the F-Word.

Here at 36:50

https://youtu.be/CMsusUHKya4?t=2210

044566  No.797189

>>796950

You must've only just started listening to him because I've seen him curse before. He does do it at times. I think he also said the n-word once.

Also, did you mean "Holy Moly"?

Also, did you mean "Is the world going to burn?"?




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9e3075  No.796904[Reply]

https://8ch.net/notredame2019/res/1.html#

HI ALL PLEASE WATCH THIS ABOUT NOTRE DAME FALL MY LINKS ARE BEING CENSORED I HAVE LINKS FROM OLD ARCHIVE LINKS



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1fe89f  No.785647[Reply]

Re-making this thread since the last one died recently

The Gospel

>1 Corinthians 15:1-4__

"Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

>Romans 10:9-10__

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

Baptist Confessions, and Statements

London Baptist Confession of 1689 (Calvinist): http://www.ccel.org/ccel/anonymous/bcf.pdf

Baptist Faith and Message (Arminian Inclusive): http://www.sbc.net/bfm2000/bfm2000.asp

Notable Modern Baptist Teachers

Albert Mohler: https://albertmohler.com/

James White: https://www.youtube.com/user/AominOrg

John Piper: https://www.desiringgod.org/

Leighton Flowers: Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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a5c9b9  No.795157

>>795145

I doubt John Piper knows who Steven Anderson is


0df710  No.795185

>>795145

Yes you can. That's how denominational categories work.


5c3bf3  No.795189

>>795070

>Calvinists have always been part of Baptist history, even if I don't like it.

Only since Calvin, and the term "baptist history" could easily not include them, since those are just protestants who took some aspects of biblical baptist doctrines.


dbd985  No.795258

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epQPmjN

Come join if you want too bant


85fa94  No.796893

>>794825

And the translation is English, and you probably don't speak Greek

Does it say the raven never returned?

>Ezekiel 44

So the only proof you have is a random verse in the OT that isn't clear? nice




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870db7  No.792718[Reply]

'It is a false exegesis to use the Word of God to promote migration'

In an interview in Rome with French magazine Valeurs Actuelles, Cdl. Robert Sarah criticized Catholic leaders who use their authority to throw weight behind secular political causes. He told the magazine, "Today, many priests and bishops are literally bewitched by political or social issues."

Cardinal Sarah, the Vatican's chief liturgist, brought up the example of "men leaving their own country" — a reference to migration.

He returned to the subject of migration into Europe later in the interview, saying, "All migrants who arrive in Europe are penniless, without work, without dignity. … This is what the Church wants? The Church cannot cooperate with this new form of slavery that has become mass migration."

"If the West continues in this fatal way," Cdl. Sarah warned, "there is a great risk that, due to a lack of birth, it will disappear, invaded by foreigners, just as Rome was invaded by barbarians."

"It is better to help people flourish in their culture than to encourage them to come to a Europe in full decadence," the Guinean cardinal opined.

Today, I am not afraid to say that priests, bishops and even cardinals are afraid to proclaim what God teaches and to transmit the doctrine of the Church. They are afraid of being frowned upon, of being seen as reactionaries.

Regarding how Catholics can address the problems in the Church today, the cardinal exhorted, "True reform is about our own conversion. If we do not change ourselves, all structural reforms will be useless. Lay people, priests, cardinals, we must all return to God."

Sauce: https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/cardinal-sarah-mass-migration-not-part-of-catholic-faith

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45bb90  No.795567

>>794801

reported

sh*tposting is unGodlike.


089eca  No.795866

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I believe that cardinal Sarah is a decent enough human being, but ultimately he is being used by ninth circle Jesuit satanists to cuck that Catholic congregation. The best analogy I can think of is that he is basically like Toussaint Louverture "liberte"ifying all the white women's ovaries with his African seed while the French soldiers get pussified by eating sugar and then Haiti went to hell a couple hundred years ago. How do we turn this problem 180° around into an oppurtunity?

Some enterprising agents in the Intel community could get a sex tape of the antipope Francis getting gangbanged by a team of African Catholic priests, then use said tape as blackmail to empty the treasures of the Vatican into Washington D.C.

Another option would be to get cardinal Sarah and a team of African priests to conduct crowleyan black mass orgies at churches in Tijuana and/or Vancouver so that the usa could annex/liberate British Columbia and Baja California from such tyranny. The footage could be used to sexually stimulate southern Baptist belles so that white men of good character could breed them.

Go ahead y'all, whip out your options and throw them on the table. There are no judeobolshevik interrogators to Nuremberg your testicles here.


6d18b6  No.795872

>>792739

True, the current pope is just fine right? Wrong!!!!


31a1dc  No.796886

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Y'all best start believing in an interconnected holographic multiverse; you're in one.


ad3697  No.796891

>>795866

Lay off the crack




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a4221f  No.795558[Reply]

What's the best reading sequence for a beginner?

Recommended were NLT to get the basics then NIV and compare and contrast between both editions. Is this solid advice?

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a644f2  No.795709

>>795558

if you want a translation that's easy to read, New Living Translation (NLT) and God's Word (GW) are both good starting points.

the NIV is a very neutral, balanced translation. it's accessible, but also more accurate and challenging than NLT or GW.

to get more in-depth, you have various options, depending on whether you want Catholic or Protestant, traditional or modern, dynamic or literal. there's Douay-Rheims and KJV, then RSV, RSV-2CE, ESV, NAB, JB, NASB, NKJV, and others.


e78584  No.795742

>>795558

>What's the best reading sequence for a beginner?

ESV with a KJV for reference if Protestant, RSV2CE with a Douay-Rheims for reference if Catholic, and OSB if Orthodox.

>Recommended were NLT to get the basics then NIV and compare and contrast between both editions. Is this solid advice?

Those translations are poor in my opinion. I'd settle for no less than the ESV with the deuterocanonical books.


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841a1c  No.796140

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I got the NIV and it's pretty good so far, not too difficult to understand and nicely structured. Will get the Douay-Rheims after I'm finished.

Thanks for all your suggestions!


b2d4ca  No.796890

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KJV




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d89ca1  No.791601[Reply]

I've been hearing a lot about this place called "Hell" recently but I don't know what it is. Literally speaking, "a place of eternal torment", ok got it. But what happens there? And would God create a world where he would, seemingly, destine a large portion of humans to hell? I don't know what heaven is either but that's for another thread. So what are your ideas on what hell is, who goes there, why? I can't help but think the God of the people is evil. Why create humans in a way where the majority will just suffer for an eternity?

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181f5b  No.796134

>>795646

How is that relevant to my post or the one I was responding to?


0d5a93  No.796386

>>796379

JW and 7DA should frick off from this board


7959fb  No.796395

>>796386

>JW and 7DA should frick off from this board

I'm neither. Propose arguments against my comment instead of trying to ban me.


2e417d  No.796599

>>796134

Both about hell.


86940a  No.796825

>>796599

That doesn't mean it's relevant..




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edf582  No.791786[Reply]

How is that possible that this pope has way more facility to kiss the feet of muslim african economic invaders than to let devout Catholics kiss his papal ring ?

Is this a clown world seriously ?

He goes out of his way to help people who don't deserve to be helped since they extremely abuse the Catholic generosity and yet, he plays all shy and timid when faced with devout Christians who are dedicated to the Church.

To be honest with you, I find it disrespectful.

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946b76  No.795657

>>795654

>you can not be a Christian if you put down the old testament

Actually the major new trend these days is "Christians" rejecting half the New Testament because they claim Paul was hateful and not Christian for condemning homos.


19ee3d  No.795661

>>795657

It's all heresy. Same with shirking away from your responsibilities by creating new denominations. There is one God, one Cross, and one Bible. Believe it. Live it. Protect it.


d929f0  No.796819

>>791786

Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

>To be honest with you, I find it disrespectful.

Of course you do, Pharisee.


4b52ac  No.796820

>>791786

He needs this erratic behavior in order to mask the pedophile scandal.


b02a31  No.796821

>>791786

All Latins ever want to talk about is the pope.




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956a68  No.796044[Reply]

I looked at arguments for the existence of God, and while I agree with them I still lack one thing - faith, something central to Christianity

I'm by default a very pessimistic person, and no matter how many videos defending the existence of God, my faith in things hasn't really been moved. Most Christians don't need to look for arguments for the existence of God, they just have tons of pure faith, but I'm very different in that regard. I was wondering how I can

1. Improve my faith in God, in the afterlife

and also,

2. Find happiness through the Holy Spirit

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e4ee4e  No.796097

Faith is simply the confidence/trust in the information you have. What do you know about God/Jesus, OP?


08ca64  No.796341

>>796097

I read the New Testament, and I'm down to 2 Samuel in the OT.

I still have enough minor question that it would fill a book, but among major things, I'm still wondering why, if Jews have their own way of cleansing their sins (through animal sacrifices and whatnot) why did God need to send Jesus to die in order to cleanse our sins when there was already a way? The only reason that comes to mind is to convert pagans through pure convenience, that the lack of sacrificing from the individual to cleanse their sins, along with the lack of circumcision, and the lack of dietary restrictions, was the best way to allow people who were pagan to get on board.

Also I want to learn more about the Holy Spirit, people say it's like an intuition in a way, and that it brings people happiness, but I certainly don't feel a type of intuition, or a type happiness in me. I sometimes worry that because of my sinful actions, and former rejection of God that I'm a Romans 1 reprobate, which is why I lack faith or can't recognize the Holy Spirit.


c17169  No.796378

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>>796341

To your first question, reread the book of hebrews. It covers this in depth. It is my favorite letter of the new testament but it can be dense. Reread it if need be it ties and explain how Jesus really fullfilled the old testament


08144a  No.796657

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>>796341

>why did God need to send Jesus to die in order to cleanse our sins

Because it wasn't a transaction. He didn't die *in exchange* for our sins, because his entire life was already serving as a roadmap to show us how to rid ourselves of sin. His crucifixion was about defeating death.

Read "On the Incarnation" by St. Athanasius:

https://www.ccel.org/ccel/athanasius/incarnation.html


578572  No.796800

>>796044

1. Pray

2. Pray

It will take time to develop faith like anything else. You must pray before you will ever have faith.




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0c7917  No.796646

>>795693

I FIND IT REALLY SUSPECT HOW WE'RE MOSTLY GETTING LIKE 3, 4, 5, OR 6 STANDARD DEVIATIONS ABOVE THE MEAN ON THIS IQ TEST


da1bfa  No.796724

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I'm not baptized yet and learned most of my knowledge while lurking here, only read the NT in its entirety but have yet to finish the OT.

It proves that this place is actually constructive and even the inter-denominational fighting is useful to learn more about Christianity.

Nice website btw, the art is gorgeous.

Despite all that I don't have the slightest idea of which denom I should join… I have actually but making such a important and serious decision is very tough…


b59a27  No.796764

I feel like I need to take a shower after this.

Also several questions confused me. Do the Catholics number the 10 commandments differently from the Orthodox?


b59a27  No.796765

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24ee76  No.796795

>>796646

It's not normalized like a standard IQ test. The average for atheists is above the 100 that would be the mean in a normalized scoring system. It's just a flat score out of 202 points.




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711bb6  No.796251[Reply]

They're gonna build another one, right?

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f7f45b  No.796757

>>796755

Wasn't that Cain's logic? Why offer beauty to God when I can just do a mediocre effort?

And any man of faith of course is not happy when beauty dedicated to God's glory is ruined.


899dc2  No.796770

>>796757

the point wasn't that beauty is pointless, it was that being attached to a particular expression of beauty that God has obviously destroyed for some reason, is dubious.


f7f45b  No.796776

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>>796770

How many protestant churches burned or were bombed or destroyed by tornadoes?

Beauty is created by men to please God, investing their God given skills, money, labour, etc. ie doing as much as humanly possible to please God out of love for God. It's nothing more than a natural expression of that love.

All that comes from God is good, beauty is good, therefore it comes from God. And the more beautiful something is, the more 'goodness' it has, therefore it's closer to God. Now, to claim that for some reason God does not like the highest degrees of beauty ie the degrees that are the closest to him, is dubious.


899dc2  No.796783

>>796776

>Now, to claim that for some reason God does not like the highest degrees of beauty ie the degrees that are the closest to him, is dubious.

Yes, so why are you implying that's what was said? A "particular expression of beauty" in this case, clearly meant the Notre Dame cathedral specifically. You can call that "the highest degrees of beauty" or whatever, but that doesn't exclude other designs from reaching that same degree of beauty. So why are we discussing rebuilding this specific building instead of just letting go and creating something new and more beautiful instead? Once again, the issue here is the attachment, not the beauty.


f7f45b  No.796785

>>796783

The attachment comes from knowing that this particular expression of beauty cannot be recreated. It is a result of blood, sweat and tears of the citizens of Paris, it is a physical manifestation of their love of God. Think about it this way: people thought well how can I use my 2 hands to spread God's glory? and built it.

We can't restore the Rose window that burned because we don't know the technique anymore. We can't rebuild the roof without steel supports. Simply put, in all likelihood, we can't create something more beautiful. Have you seen how modern churches look? Are you sure the modern man can create beauty anymore?

And again, there's nothing wrong with being attached to a form of beauty that is pretty much no longer obtainable.




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c47597  No.796553[Reply]

I am with you my French brothers and sisters in Christ.

f656ed  No.796566

Je vous salue, Marie, pleine de grâces, le Seigneur est avec vous; vous ętes bénie entre toutes les femmes, et Jésus le fruit de vos entrailles, est béni. Sainte Marie, Mčre de Dieu, priez pour nous pécheurs, maintenant, et ŕ l'heure de notre mort. Amen.

Notre Pčre qui es aux cieux, que ton Nom soit sanctifié, que ton rčgne vienne, que ta volonté sit soit faite sur la terre comme au ciel. Donne-nous aujourd'hui notre pain quotidien. Pardonne-nous nos offenses comme nous pardonnons aussi ŕ ceux qui nous ont offensés. Et ne nous soumets pas ŕ la tentation, mais délivre-nous du mal. Amen.


f01b6c  No.796760

I feel sad for my brethren. I have no emotional attachment to the cathedral (especially now that we know the religious artwork was saved, which I was worried for), but it must be pretty bad for them. It must feel like a blow of the devil against the Church and against France, right? I'm also really annoyed by my co-religionists online being all happy about the event and calling it divine retribution against my country and against Catholicism.

Mère de Dieu et Vierge, réjouis-toi, pleine de grâce : le Seigneur est avec toi, tu es bénie entre toutes les femmes, et le fruit de tes entrailles est béni, car tu as enfanté le Sauveur de nos âmes.

Il est digne en vérité de te célébrer, ô Mère de Dieu, toujours-bienheureuse et très-pure et Mère de notre Dieu. Toi plus vénérable que les Chérubins et incomparablement plus glorieuse que les Séraphins, qui sans corruption enfanta Dieu le Verbe, toi véritablement la Mère de Dieu, nous te magnifions.

L'ange clama à la Pleine-de-Grâce : Ô Vierge pure, réjouis-toi, je le redis : réjouis-toi, car ton Fils le troisième jour est sorti du tombeau. Resplendis, resplendis, Nouvelle Jérusalem, car la gloire du Seigneur s'est levée sur toi ; danse à présent Sion et sois sans l'allégresse, et toi Mère de Dieu Toute-Pure, réjouis-toi de la Résurrection de Celui que tu as enfanté.




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