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>>813935

Not OP but I do know that Benedict resigned (obviously) and since then has reiterated at different points that it was of his own will and that it was legitimate. If he was secretly holding on and trying to warn the masses he’s still pope, he’s doing a less than great job

>>813403

If Siri was actually the Pope he would be objectively the worst Pope in history because he just hid like a coward and never tried to let his flock know that they were being deceived. If he was Pope the Novus Ordo would also definitely be invalid and he was perfectly willing to celebrate it.

>>814967

That I think is the most damning part of the so-called "Siri thesis."

I believe it. We need only look at the example of Anacletus II. For several years he was almost universally accepted as the Pope; it took a while to figure out that the prior election of Innocent had been legitimate. From Catholic Encyclopedia, about Anacletus: "The majority of the cardinals with the Bishop of Porto, the Dean of the Sacred College, at their head, stood at his side. Almost the whole populace of Rome rallied around him. His victory seemed complete, when, shortly after, the Frangipani, abandoning what appeared to be a lost cause, went over to him." Apparently there are still some modern-day canonists who think that Anacletus had the better claim to the papacy. When the smoke clears, I fully expect it to be established that John XXIII was the "uncanonically elected pope" who would wreak havoc on the Church.

http://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/04Nov/nov18mdi.htm

More on the subject.

>>810668

Matthew 7:

>3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

>4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?

>5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

>>814914

>what are ancient Greeks?

>>814900

Like I said, I'm not really a fan of it, nor do I like to be materialistic. But as far as governance is concerned, I think the greatest degree of financial/material freedom is ideal compared to the alternatives. It''s the best of a bad situation in other words.

>>814914

Sodomy has always existed, even in recent times. (Just look at the Wild West and the existence of brothels in nearly every town)

The problem is that society has largely condemned sodomy, prostitution and sexual degeneracy/perversion since the West became Christian. We are no reverting to pagan-tier society where sexual degeneracy is the norm, not that the strange and frowned upon outcasted minority.

>>814964

*We are now

Finished Roger Scruton - Beauty

Started with few Interwar Articles by Ernst Junger but I will finish de Maistre too.

>>806439

Im sorry man but what screen are you using to have a resolution like that

Brothers Karamazov

>>809334

"A canticle for Saint Leibowitz" is an excellent book as well. Follows the Catholic church through a nuclear fallout and post-apocalypse revival of humanity, each time period following a new person.

>>748849

The Imitation of Christ, The Confessions, The Sayings of the Desert Fathers, The Rule of the Master, Fear and Trembling, Le Morte D'Arthur, The Lord of the Rings, The Demon Wars Saga, The Lost Fleet series, The Ember Wars Saga, The Heritage Trilogy, The Things They Carried, 33 Strategies of War, and of course the Scriptures (RSVCE2).

Some purely as audio books, some purely as text, and some as both. I tend to rotate them dependent on my mood (except for Scripture, which I read daily in the Missal at the very least, if not also on my own time).

If you couldn't tell, I like Military Text, Military Sci-Fi, High Fantasy (especially classics), and Christian Philosophy. They're probably my 4 favorite "genres" of literature.

>>814202

It proves itself.

Of course they shill, for example the western intelligence services didnt like the orthodox threads here, because in their eyes it spread russian influence,point of view (no joke), so lately they have been supressing them and started shilling catholicism. Havent you noticed the shift? Suddenly out of nowhere catholic threads are everywhere, you would think the entire vatican inteligentsia moved here…

>>814743

Probably the other way round, FSB stopped funding ortholarp threads around here.

>>814743

funny, i thought most of the ortho's were crypto-protestants looking to start flamewars or literal jay dyer shills

It seems like the best option would either be to sit down and talk with her about your new feelings or break up with her, anon.

Off topic, cool to see CF found God. I used to be a fan of those kinds of YTers pre-conversion, but fell of after I converted because of their iffy views on religion as a whole.

thanks for sharing.

Do you have a link? Last time I was at St. Peter was probably when I was 12 or something 8 years ago.

The place outside was full, but the interior was stunning.

>>814020

Depends on how and what you use it for. It took me awhile to convert into the Catholic faith when I started to pay more attention to theology and blow away the myths touted.

>>813580

Insert catholic circlejerk laughter here

>>814432

nya nya nyaha! - catlick

>>814006

>>814023

He won't be damned if he repented out of love of God (love of God due to his perfect goodness certainly suffices, there doesn't seem to be a consensus on whether love of gratituden suffices) and hatred of having offended Him (which may be joined with other motives, e.g. fear of Hell, but it must be present).

It's ultimately a simple concept, but have a slightly more detailed explanation to avoid confusion from the very good and detailed source that is Catholic Encyclopedia:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04337a.htm

And also this:

https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/dictionary/index.cfm?id=35519

>protestant

into the trash it goes

>>814752

I'm a Catholic also, just because we think ourselves to have the fullness of the truth, doesn't mean that truth doesn't exist elsewhere, it demands the opposite

The vision of Obadi´ah. Thus saith the Lord God concerning Edom; We have heard a rumor from the Lord , and an ambassador is sent among the heathen, Arise ye, and let us rise up against her in battle.

Behold, I have made thee small among the heathen: thou art greatly despised. The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground? Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the Lord.

If thieves came to thee, if robbers by night, (how art thou cut off!) would they not have stolen till they had enough? if the grape gatherers came to thee, would they not leave some grapes? How are the things of Esau searched out! how are his hidden things sought up! All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee: there is none understanding in him. Shall I not in that day, saith the Lord , even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?

And thy mighty men , O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one of the mount of Esau may be cut off by slaughter. For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever. In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou wast as one of them. But thou shouldest not have looked on the day of thy brother in the day that he became a stranger; neither shouldest thou have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither shouldest thou have spoken proudly in the day of distress. Thou shouldest not have entered into the gate of my people in the day of their calamity; yea, thou shouldest not have looked on their affliction in the day of their calamity, nor have laid hands on their substance in the day of their calamity; neither shouldest thou have stood in the crossway, to cut off those of his that did escape; neither shouldest thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>814438

Because protest against a heretic, borderline schismatic church =/= Protest against Catholic Doctrine.

In fact, it's a reaffirmation of the seat of Rome.

>>814445

>protest against a heretic, borderline schismatic church

It is not "a" church, it is THE Church.

If you move to Austria or Poland (or whatever BS you suggest), you still join the SAME one Church as a Roman-Catholic, with Cardinal Marx and everything.

Your country of residence changes nothing about that.

You are in the wrong (Protestant).

OP is in the wrong (Protestant).

Catholicism is correct.

>>814447

False. The church is infallible as in the mystical body of Christ, and can't make wrong decisions in terms of doctrine, canonization, dogmas, etc. Protesting agains't cardinal marx because cardinal marx is a heretic doesn't mean you're protesting agains't the body of Christ. If he were to be protesting against an dogma or a doctrine of the church, that would be protestantism, and the loosening of the female ordination and chastity rules for priests isn't a doctrine.

>>814447

Do you really think calling someone a Protestant means anything as a Catholic today? Francis says he agrees with Lutherans on justification, he issued a stamp with Luther on it, and he even put up a statue of Martin Luther in the Vatican. So your comments mean nothing.

>>814626

Nah. Their argument is more like:

>God doesn't exist

>therefore, God couldn't write any rules

>therefore, the rules of God don't exist

>I can't break a rule that doesn't exist

>therefore, I am not doing anything wrong

>>814628

Not exactly my stance. I do believe there may be a God. However I find it impossible to trust anything written by man not to be misguided or have deceptive intent.

>>814632

By that logic, we ought to not trust even our sense of discernment and ability to comprehend the basics of reality since we're men

>>814698

>And what did Francis had to say when asked about homosexuals? "Who am I to judge?" dude please.

And in only two sentences you proved you now absolutely shit about the whole issue.

>>814698

Also,

>That pick

Lol, you really are me from 2017…

>>814703

>Read about him both on your site and others and I don't see much of an issue.

>I don't see much of an issue.

>A known marxist ordained as a priest holding mass under a guerrilla banner? I sleep.

>Said heretic getting beatified by the head of the church? I sleep.

Good to know.

>The pope met with a political leader

The pope met with a COMMUNIST DICTATOR which is very different.

>>That pick Lol, you really are me from 2017…

Maybe a communist flag is more akin to your tastes rather than the holy men of old that died fighting in the name of Christ

If you defend Francis and his pontificate, you're obviously a left wing advocate who cares not for Christendom but for the communist agenda, either that or someone in denial. Communism backed by (((freemasonry))) is the number one enemy of the Christian Faith, and despite the numerous occasions where the current pope has shown sympathy for this ideology and met their leaders, people like yourself still trust him. It's unbelievable.

You mentioned Fatima. Didn't Our Lady warn us and asked for the consecration of Russia, the birthplace of the bolshevik revolution who caused innumerable disasters around the globe spreading it's pestilent ideology and infiltrating many countries?

Quoting Our Lady of the good event in a different occasion:

"How the Church will suffer on that occasion the dark night of the lack of a Prelate and Father to watch over them with paternal love, gentleness, strength, and prudence. Many priests will lose their spirit, placing their souls in great danger."

>lack of a Prelate and Father to watch over them

Make of that what you will.

Give your worries to God. I also used to be frequently overwhelmed with anxiety, in those moments I would say "God, I can't deal with this. Take my suffering as a prayer and use it to convert sinners or something" and now I still have moments of worry but not at a pathological level like before. God's yoke is easy and the burden is light, when you're troubled let Him do the heavy lifting for you.