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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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249cd4  No.803860[Reply]

Will we ever consecrate Russia to Her Immaculate Heart christbros?

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fae849  No.807302


I've heard people arguing that ww2 had already started in the east

fae849  No.807306

081791  No.807557


But it didn't, it wasn't a world war, only Japan and China. It's a world war only when several great powers get involved on either side, which didn't happen before Hitler's invasion of Poland in September 39. The Sino-Japanese War got absorbed into WW2, not the other way around.

1bb0ab  No.807734


Sure it's not heresy as it's not of the faith. But it is a sin against piety to doubt what the church has confirmed to be true

fae849  No.807735


i disagree..if we go by this definition then the spanish civil war could be conisdered the start..either way it's not an issue set in stone: https://historyguy.com/what_date_did_world_war_two_begin

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a43289  No.806561[Reply]

What do you think personally about them? And do they even count as christians?

I've heard that there are different mormons out there. For example LDS, Community of Christ, FLDS…

What's the difference between them?

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3f164f  No.807508


Not a muslim but I don't think it's fair to misrepresent other people's faiths like that. I've head that you can only lie in order to save your life or to save another persons life or if you're in the minority and your faith is under persecution and saying you're muslim might cause you to lose your life.

But before you go all paranoid just know that most muslims don't know what takqiya is. (sorry if i misspelt that.)

f4706b  No.807535


So, do they believe that there's a God over God and Jesus, or are they atheists like so much of the science fiction genre?

bc75ea  No.807548


They believe God the Father is the God over all. And Jesus is another God of this world (YHWH). They're essentially polytheistic, but beat around the bush. It's even more apparent though once you take everyone else "graduating into gods" into account.

8a80c2  No.807565

A lot of heresies rolled up into one. A chosen people, Jesus not fully God, God's favor for your works, polygamy. Other than that, lovely people.

3f8775  No.807679


> What do you think personally about them?

I don't think about them much at all. I respect that they work ardently to protect their community from the cultural rebels, but their leadership is so isolated it's incapable of adapting to the encroaching problem any better than Christian leadership has.

> And do they even count as christians?

No, but they've all civil right to call themselves whatever they please.

> I've heard that there are different mormons out there. For example LDS, Community of Christ, FLDS… What's the difference between them?

The ways in which they adhere to their man made faith's spawning ideology, I suppose. I honestly don't know. I've not spent anytime examining them or their faith.

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7ae333  No.800392[Reply]

Post rare Andersons. Don’t take it too far

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9008f8  No.804781

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Great meme potential starting at 0:14 for someone with the talent and the time.

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7ae333  No.807532

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Anderson: we need to live the lost

Also Anderson: kIlL dA gAyS!!1!


403e13  No.807576


>pisseth against the wall

>plane crash

kills me erry time

b3b5b9  No.807648


>couldnt take it anymore

>they fought until the death in one city only

>they were outnumbered

>they could have revolted and remove him

>they still fought


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0f7a54  No.800224[Reply]

Recent Catholic convert here. Throughout my reading of Christian literature it promises me peace and that turning from Sin will make me happy. No matter how much I try to turn from sin, I don't feel peace of mind whatsoever, in fact I become depressed and then end up going back to sin. I have no problem believing in God and in everything. Perhaps it is Satans doing, it probably is but it is powerful, I become miserable and unhappy, my heart sinks, it becomes such a heavy weight.

Is this a test?

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60e665  No.800242

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As another anon already pointed out, God gave you 10 fingers for this express purpose. But, imo, a better alternative to even that exists.

If you have a smart phone, download the Laudate app. Not only does it have a virtual rosary that will teach you and guide you how to pray the rosary, it also contains a plethora of other things like: prayers, chaplets, bibles, vatican documents, etc.

I highly recommend it.

>i feel weird buying a rosary from a corporation

Im sure your church will a couple just lying around. Buy one from there or ChurchMilitant.com or >>800231

If anything, you should be supporting a company that sells rosaries, because there is very good chance that you are supporting a good christian help support his/her family.

Remember, the physical rosary it's self is nothing more than a tool, a weapon agianst sin and vice. The holiness comes from the paryer not the object itself.

ccd220  No.800260


Give it time, anon. I was confirmed last week and I feel the grace.

39f7eb  No.800569


ngl this is a bit cringe

873214  No.800657

This is absolutely a test.

Dispair is itself a sin. It’s a surrender to the power of sin over you and is born of a misunderestimation of God’s desire and power to forgive sin. It’s like if you wanked all over yourself and then decided not to clean up your mess so you’d remember how disgusting masturbation is and how bad you should feel. Now THAT’S gross, my dude. You can conduct no good busniess in the world like that. We all fall short somewhere but clean up, admit what you did, and endevor to avoid sin and near occasion of sin. Once you have examined what brought you into that cycle and have reoriented towards grace, confess.

What will bring your heart joy is stopping any cycle of sin at any point and endeavoring by any means available to restore yourself to grace. We all have some means. There’s a whole internet with open. Turn on your porn blocker and have at it. Saints ftw.

27b189  No.807624

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> is this a test?

When is it not? Consider getting yourself a rosary from cordbands.com, if ebay's offensive to your sensibilities. It's a catholic business. I got myself one of their rosaries when I was in the service and it was definitely beneficial to have.

While you're waiting on that make time to regularly attend confession and talk to your parish office secretary to make an appointment regarding getting some spiritual direction.

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45d7ff  No.807296[Reply]

So, now that the dust has settled, does Amoris Laetitia permit communion for adulterers?

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6deb40  No.807363


>regicide, literally one of the worst sins a man can commit

>destroys 1000 years of culture because "muh high places"

>lets jewish usurers back in so he can mortgage his plunders out to them

wow what a hero

really truly inspiring

9312f4  No.807453

This image is very funny :) Thanks for the share!

aeb09f  No.807482



He probably means Thomas Cromwell since he said this in the context of Henry Tudor and Thomas Cranmer

21b1f6  No.807486


nope. His image explicity mocks the atrocious crime of the regicide of Charles I.

Also i remember meeting a "trad" protestant anglican on reddit saying that the murder of Charles I was justified and legal but Charles I is the ONLY saint in the anglican church and he thinks his murder was justified kek

2f23ff  No.807492


Familiaris Consortio permitted "divorced" (pls note the quotes) people living in new relationships to partake in sacraments after swearing chastity before their parish priest. Amoris Leatitia modifies the procedure somewhat and allows the confessor to give this permission. Nothing about the theology of marriage has changed, the Pope is not a heretic.

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31be3c  No.806211[Reply]

I hear that NASB is closer in translation to older documents, yet KJV is shilled a lot by lots of people I care to listen to. Which one should i go with? My heart says NASB but my mind says KJV

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48dc60  No.807154


If there was the Vulgate and a million rando translations that are probably all heretical in ways that are probably popular now, I would say Vulgate only. As it is, I say KJV only. Why even have a Bible if you can change the words around randomly so "Father" becomes "Parent" or whatever?

e831ea  No.807162


>Source: My a**

9045f0  No.807176

Use the KJV and the ESV only. Avoid NIV entirely

7d1e51  No.807220


Why even be concerned with biblical study when you're this much of a misconstruing buffoon?

a07d98  No.807343


>He would have used Codex Vaticanus if he could have seen it personally instead of being duped as well with a phony list of "365" readings from it.

Why does this guy matter exactly, just because he rushed out an early TR that was later corrected by Stephanus and Beza in their TR's before the KJV translators went back to the original sources?

If these people were able to correct Erasmus, why exactly does Erasmus decision even matter? Also that story is fake as well.

>That a printed book with them wasn't made until more recent centuries doesn't make them new.

Psalm 119:160

Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.

Matthew 24:35

Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Psalm 12:6-7

The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

Isaiah 59:21

As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.

>The Textus Receptus was an endeavor in the compilation of various manuscripts as much as later compilations were.

By "later compilations" do you mean the work of Westcott and Hort? Because they used materials that were never before seen, unlike Stephanus, Beza or the KJV translators. Everyone was very aware and familiar with the true NT and all of its words long before these individuals came on the scene.

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381495  No.807040[Reply]

You don't actually spend more time arguing with strangers online than you spend time practicing your faith right Anon?

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ed7154  No.807292

Reading the arguments presented on this board (and elsewhere online) is what led to my conversion to Catholicism. If it weren't for said arguments, I would've

>become fed up with my old Protestant church

>never been exposed to Catholic arguments or given the Roman Catholic Church a chance

>either church hop for the rest of my life or fall out of the faith and into agnosticism once again

Debating one another keeps us strong in our faith and is one way we can practice our faith. The reason so many fall into atheism is because they know little about their faith (especially cradle Catholics), are presented with purely emotion-driven atheistic arguments such as "if God real why bad thing happen", don't know how to respond, and soon fall into secularism. We need to build up one another to prevent that from happening.

e92de7  No.807294


Nah, I'm fine here, thanks. Did you forget your meds, smiley?

bf4be7  No.807308


i'm not a demon i'm a christian kek.

i was just curious if kenneth was your real name

e92de7  No.807312

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He knows who he is.

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c00c78  No.805155[Reply]

Jesus is not a sacrifice for our sins as Paul said, to justify us because we are iniquity. Saying he, for us to believe in Jesus to be saved, without knowing what is belief, not even explaining what is faith (belief and faith is synonymous).

He sacrificed himself to speak a word it the mouth to be understood. And for him to be understood we need to have faith. If a true emissor say: A tree it a sunflower. We believe, but we don't believe, until it is said to us that the sunflower always show her face to the sun. And the sun goes from east to west, and this is the same it the sunflower face. But it's the same if the flower is it a tree ? Then our faith is increased and we can walk upon the sea and not fail. Do you believe in Peter walking in the sea ?

See sheep, hear this fat sheep: Belief without understanding is the you that i have showed. Your faith could be a lack of faith and in the worst case no faith, because you can't meditate upon words and go into the sea to catch fish it your boat.

There isn't a creation of a faith in the individual by histeria and self blindness to your doubts that you hide. To admit doubt is to eliminate doubt by searching refutations, knowledge. Not admitting is to carry a heavy stone that will not make you go up without help. And to admit is part of the allegory of circuncision. And you will cut the foreskin and reveal what is hidden.

And now i can begin saying: The faith in the words, works, passings, everything that emanated from Jesus, reveals himself and we can finally have faith, the faith that i explained to you in Jesus because he is his emanations and emanations are him.

He walked among men going into the sheeps, it his hands to make his miraculous work of healing and building, it his mouth to give instruction of where to eat grass to give us the right nutrients to grow, and the food to be part of us.

Then by this show of the right grass, he was being against the vanity of the Jews of the time; the hipocrisy of them, how they fast, how they prayed it the purpose of making an appearance to everyone around. The temple of his father fulPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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0a3d8e  No.806332

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148a16  No.806339

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050dca  No.807228

>not as paul said

Nope. You cannot disagree with the word of God and still be christian. You are a heretic

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0b0076  No.798561[Reply]

Daily reminder America is the modern day Babylon and god will punish it for its crimes such as allowing and promoting faggotry and abortions.

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4d036f  No.804382


>Show me the verse on which you base all people being equal.


Multiple verses on that website prove my point

>Also reminder that heaven is a theocratic monarchy with a wall and extreme vetting.

What does that have to do with slavery?

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b9d438  No.804389

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>Those guys interpretation is wrong!

>But mine is right in my opinion.

108047  No.804406

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>Implying we do not already know this.

4c6b0a  No.807261


There is a difference between murder and killing

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1dc896  No.798183[Reply]

This was an /r/atheism meetup. Tell me honestly bros, would a /christian/ meetup look any different?

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c396da  No.807143

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>what are you packin lads?

628a17  No.807225


Sorry glowtigger, nice try

06d55c  No.809179


(1) go to reddit instead if you want meetups. There is no need for any meetups.

06d55c  No.809180


/pol/ meetup? When did this happen?

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9fb3ad  No.806743[Reply]

Lord, have mercy on us. We need more Christians in the comments explaining why murdering children is horrible (just think about that for a minute, we actually need to spend a good amount of effort to convince women and men that taking the life of their child is a heinous act)

"To unbelievers, earth is the closest we could get to Heaven. To Christians, the earth is the closest we could get to Hell."

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bb4446  No.806920


even science says the fetus is a living human organism

8079bc  No.807161


Rape is a horrible thing but it's no excuse to murder a baby

5239fb  No.807168


Whenever I see a crowd of Americans it makes me wanna machine-gun them.


5239fb  No.807169

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The abortion rate in Russia is decreasing actually, your statistic is outdated.

5239fb  No.807170


Once your daughter has been raped by a pack of muslims/tiggers and you've convinced her to carry out the pregnancy I will hear your opinion.

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140e16  No.805164[Reply]

>Be the only convert in a family

>Mother and father are divorced

>Father is about to die from cancer and is drugged up on medications that impairs his ability to reason

>Is unresponsive to anything I have to say about religion

>Mother is very lukewarm about religious things but thinks ghosts exists and that universalism would be nice as a concept

This pain is something I could never prepare myself for. They've always loved me first and foremost did things like baptize me when I was a kid. Could that be a plus in Gods eyes? The thought of their souls going to hell for eternity in exchange for me living as a decent Christian feels so disturbing.

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e8c83c  No.806539


To be honest you're better off asking your priest and some random people on the internet

e8c83c  No.806545


You're better off asking your priest instead of random people on the internet**

Sage for shity dictation

e6568a  No.806558


I always just say "but what if you're wrong?"

and they're forced to face the reality.

Most won't realize the truth at first, but they will at least be forced to consider that maybe their actions will be judged to be sinful by God and they will have to answer for it.

82f02f  No.806596


It seems that it's possible in danger of death if he showed at least some desire to be baptised, but google it further.

fc8096  No.807135

going to trick god and find a loophole? Always a good plan.

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b4a59b  No.795316[Reply]

Hey there everyone, Cathodox inquirer Anon here, I'm still an inquirer for now and fairly new to Christianity as a whole, I grew up in a non-practicing Christian family so I knew no prayers by heart when I started my journey. Initially I tried constructing a daily prayer rule of my own consisting of morning and evening prayers, that was troublesome because finding translations is hard for most of them (I would prefer to pray in my native language) but more importantly, it was a lot to memorize, I always ended up botching several ones in many places when I tried carry out my daily prayers and ultimately I ended up focusing more on my notes than on the prayers themselves.

So I picked up a prayer book recently for private usage, I went through my first daily prayer routine as slow and focused as I could, followed it best I could, tried to say the words on the pages as if they were my own, overall my morning routine took me 30 minutes which I feel is perfect, I do my best to put my heart into the words as if they were my own but I'm concerned…

We're talking of praying privately and from heart, but for now I only know the Our Father and the Jesus Prayer from heart, so I rely a lot on this prayer book, it just feels wrong but at the same time I think it's the best I can do for now.

What should I do to address this, just pray by the book's daily prayer rule or try to memorize it all?

How do you manage your private prayers /christian/? Do you rely on a prayer book, have a personal daily prayer rule that is well put together and you also know it by heart, maybe something else?

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7d1d7f  No.796059


Is your meme implying that the Turks are good for massacring Christians?

87ac91  No.807092



Are you a Marcionist? That's a heresy you know.



OP, read the Liturgy of the Hours. That is exactly what you need. You do not need to pray all 7 of them (or even 8), that is for Monks. Nonetheless, you can focus on Laudes and Vesperae and/or Completorium.

You can find in this link all you need for this: https://divinumofficium.com/cgi-bin/horas/officium.pl#

Another thing you can do is pray the Little Office of the Blessed Virgin Mary https://www.baroniuspress.com/book.php?wid=56&bid=47#tab=tab-1


If that is you, OP, here are my specific recommandations.

Écoute les prières du Barroux pour avoir une idée des Laudes et Vêpres/Complies.


Tu peux trouver sur leur site d'excellents livres de prières quotidienne (le Diurnal monastique).

+ https://boutique.barroux.org/liturgie-monastique/892-diurnal-monastique-9782906972407.html (en latin ET français)

+ Si tu aimes lesPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

73e152  No.807109


OP here, been using that prayers book since and I fell it's great, but I1ll take a look thank you fren.

I wasn't the French guy you were replying to though.

87ac91  No.807115


Right, I realized that later. You could still listen to https://www.barroux.org/fr/liturgie/ecoutez-nos-offices.html to get an idea of what the liturgy of the hours look like (in latin). The setup time takes them usually 2 to 3 minutes, so start listening then.

Knowing the full liturgy of the hours by heart takes time, as overall if you use the non censored version (modern rite) there is 150 psalms. It is possible though, and I believe studying the bible at the same time as you pray as many benefits.

The Little Office of the Blessed Virgin Mary though I believe can be learnt by heart relatively easily. It's the same prayers every week, so after a couple of weeks you should be set in. It has the extra advantage of having all the notes you need to sing all your prayers if you want to expand in that direction later.

87ac91  No.807116


If you like praying the hours in latin, there is a nice english-latin version available in Baronius press, btw.


Note that this is not the monastic one (the monastic is slightly longer), this is the one hours the priest usually use. In practice, it is a little shorter than the one you can listen to in the Barroux.

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112189  No.795605[Reply]

I want to be a Catholic, but I'm too weak and evil. Looking at the entirety of history, religion and philosophy, everything leads to Catholicism. Catholicism is beautiful and true on a cosmic scale, the good of Christ, Mary and the saints are real and eternal. I wish I could find a place in this grand narrative, I wish I could fulfill my obligation, from which I exist for. I can't do it though, I keep failing, I also love sin, and I feel comfortable self loathing. I don't want to suffer.

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ec8ce5  No.805484


No, separate apartments are not an option and we don't have local family or friends to crash with. I was going to switch parishes but I frankly never want to go through this again, being told you're not forgiven is devastating.

11d322  No.805491


>I am civilly married but not sacramentally married. I am trying to get a convalidation, but I am not able/willing to move away from my wife while we wait, so the priest denied me absolution for sleeping with my partner of 10 years.

You don't need absolution for that.


>being told you're not forgiven is devastating.

Maybe ask the Lord about that?

11d322  No.805495


>Well, that's exactly how Luther felt. He concluded, due to being unable to control his vices, that man can't actually 'do' anything to control them and that only God's grace can help. Hence sola fide.

Exactly. Couldn't control perpetual sin (addiction), asked the Lord Jesus Christ to help me with that and strongly believed in that He could help me. He did and now I have it under control.

>You can't just say 'I will confess to Christ' or 'Christ died for my sins so I'm saved anyway'

You can't just say, that you confess to the Lord, you actually have to do it and repent. True repentance isn't easy all, it can physically hurt for hours. And you can only desperately hope for forgiveness, there is no guarantee to get it.

How much easier it is to just going to some human priest and get absolved in one sitting.

>Yes, being a Catholic is harder than being a prot. You have to go to confession (and this is really, really not that easy) you have to observe the liturgical calendar, fasts, days of obligation, etc.

All those works in church sound pretty, though I'm wondering what kind of real relationship with the actual God do you brothers have?

11d322  No.805508


>No, separate apartments are not an option and we don't have local family or friends to crash with.

Brother, when you are legally married with your wife, became one flesh and did not fornicate (sleeping with others), your marriage is legal for the Lord.

The Lord united you with your wife and it's not in the authority of some human priest to separate you:

"What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate."

Mark 10:9

>I was going to switch parishes but I frankly never want to go through this again, being told you're not forgiven is devastating.

You don't need to change parishes, but you have to put more faith into God and not into your priest.

6ba969  No.807099


Even the Saints sin, up to seven times a day is the common saying. That is expected. But you have to go to confession and to do penance in order to correct your wrongs.

Proverbs 24:16

> for though the righteous fall seven times, they rise again, but the wicked stumble when calamity strikes.

1 John 1:8-10

> 8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.

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296a1d  No.806646[Reply]

Are you with the Chair of Peter?

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b0db94  No.807066


Sedevacantism is literally the only way to reconcile the belief that the Catholic Church is the true Church with the Second Vatican Council and subsequent papal apostasy. What doesn’t make sense to me is how anyone could be a Catholic and not be a sede. If you reject sedevacantism then you pretty much have to accept that the gates of hell prevailed against the Catholic Church and join the Orthodox Church.

b2dad9  No.807070


Except the gates of hell has not prevailed against the church, prot. We have endured worse. And we will continue to Prevail With or Without You.

ea0fbd  No.807076


Why don't you call Eastern Orthodox as Prots? Sedevacantists believe far more of Catholic dogma than EO. I never see catholics call EO as prots but I always see them calling sedes as prots. I only see them heaping compliments and calling EO as our brothers and sisters etc etc.

d91f40  No.807077


It is categorically impossible that any part of the Traditions or the magisterium could go for an entire generation without getting passed down. To say that such a thing has happened is to say that the gates of hell have prevailed against the Church. Even worse, saying that the Papacy itself has failed is to say that the gates of Hell have prevailed against the rock itself. The modern sede movement isn't the first group to reject the Pope and leave the Church over disagreements with a perfectly valid council and start LARPing as the ancient Church. The last group to do such a thing called themselves Old Catholics, they left in 1870 over the Pope infallibly teaching the Immaculate Conception. Today they perform gay marriages and female ordinations. This will be the ultimate fate of the sede movement as well if they're not reconciled to Rome, because the only thing you can do once you're cut off from the Church is to get more and more heretical from there.

618b70  No.807084


Lurk moar, newfriend. Eastern Schismatics get called prots as well, they just rarely make trouble and rarely give us a reason to call them prots.

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