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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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30ccd7  No.764523[Reply]

I know that Christ fulfills the old law, but is the death penalty for something like, say, homosexuality permissible in Christianity? And before you guys pick on me for "DA JOOS" on what I'm about to say, just hear me out. As I understand it, in the Mishnah, tractate Sanhedrin, it has stoning, burning, strangulation, and beheading as possible forms of capital punishment for sins as prescribed in the Torah. Admittedly some of what it has it pretty brutal and probably beyond what the Torah prescribes, like prying a sinners mouth open and pouring burning lead down their throat. But is the principle still allowed in Christianity or was it totally done away with through the death of Christ? I'm not trying to be edgy, although I know a lot of you on here are probably just edgy contrarian monarchists who support this only because it's edgy, I am just genuinely curious here as if this is possible in Christianity.

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e87f22  No.764997


>receive capital punishment for crimes they did not commit

No, the punishment is for the crime of sodomy.

>If you cannot produce a civil justification for the use of capital punishment then you need to change your position

I can't produce a civil justification according to the premises of enlightenment liberalism. I am not defending the execution of sodomites on the grounds of liberalism or the constitution, I am defending it as beneficial to the common good.

436fd8  No.765082

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Death penalty is always operative for the right crime, it is part of the moral law, it is part of church tradition for over a thousand years. Only heretical prots, atheists and modernist-liberal catholics disagree.

Read the church fathers. See the code of Justinian.

fee480  No.767311


Absolutely based

4429f3  No.767384

For scriptural basis, I'll turn you to Romans 1:24-2:2 (KJV). Also see Deuteronomy 23:17-18 (KJV) where the sodomite is directly equated with an animal, and also that it is an abomination viz. Leviticus 20:13 and 1 Kings 14:24. And the New Testament gives them as an example deserving eternal burning in fire, see 2 Peter 2:6 and Jude v. 7.

For the legal precedent I will defer to my English common law predecessor.

Sir William Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England

Book the Fourth, XV Chapter, p.215

>I will not act so disagreeable a part, to my readers as well as myself, as to dwell any longer upon a subject the very mention of which is a disgrace to human nature. It will be more eligible to imitate, in this respect, the delicacy of our English law, which treats it in its very indictments as a crime not fit to be named: "peccatum illud horribile, inter Christianos non nominandum." (k) A taciturnity observed likewise by the edict of Constantius and Constans :(l) "ubi scelus est id, quod non proficit scire, jubemus insurgere leges, armari jura gladio ultore, ut exquisitis pænis subdantur infames, qui sunt, vel qui futuri sunt rei." Which leads me to add a word concerning its punishment.

>This the voice of nature and of reason and the express law of God(m) determined to be capital. Of which we have a signal instance long before the Jewish dispensation by the destruction of two cities by fire from heaven; so that this is a universal, not merely a provincial, precept. And our antient law in some degree imitated this punishment, by commanding such miscreants to be burned to death,(n) though Fleta(o) says they should be buried alive; either of which punishments was indifferently used for this crime among the antient Goths.(p) But now the general punishment of all felonies is the same, namely, by hanging; and this offence (being in the times of popery only subject to ecclesiastical censures) was made felony without benefit of clergy

321166  No.767421

putting gays in prison just seems like a really bad idea as we can see from modern prisons

so it really is best to just give them the death penalty

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bc261a  No.766681[Reply]

Soup /christian/

I got this exorcist salt and water but I'm not sure how to use it properly. Pls help. I'd like to sleep in peace tonight.

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6dd942  No.767254

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(S)he binds demons, cooks a mean fish fry, and doesn't afraid of anything.

And the show was somewhat entertaining too.

cb1584  No.767277


>What superstitious nonsense lol


>You not being able to sleep most likely has nothing to do with demons, and if it did putting some salt and water on the walls won't do anything.

Demons are real. Thinking one needs mediators and mediating objects other than prayer and a love for Christ is the superstitious thing. But Catholics have a knack for disembodying God (as if they could) into a thousand pieces. Relics, Sacred hearts (which is originally a Frankish practice and view of the body), and other things are the superstition. I even say this about my own tradition (Orthodox). Lots of old world peasant mentalities who think they need to place icons in the sanctuary in order to be blessed… even though priests tell them themselves that it isn't necessary.

0686ec  No.767299


You're full of bull and you know it.

601cd1  No.767395


>But Catholics have a knack for disembodying God

That's not at all true.

666334  No.767399


As far as I know there is supposed to be only one relic of Christ himself, and as for “disembodying” there’s the Sacred Heart devotional, but nothing else.

T. Protestant

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781be4  No.766880[Reply]


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756e4e  No.767062

I don't understand, I have a hard time believing OP was doing anything but sh*tposting.

d97953  No.767138

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>heres 1 4 u to chew on…

>god? why bad

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28fc51  No.767308

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do you believe in life after lulz?

76eff2  No.767323

Sometimes people blessed with admirable physical form by the world's standards are tempted far more than others and lost sight of God. It's the same principle why Jesus said that about the rich man. "How hard it is for a rich man to enter heaven!" It wasn't because they were simply rich, but because they had deluded themselves with self-sufficiency and weren't properly humbled and realized their need for God.

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3aa9b1  No.765859[Reply]

There's a man who's been coming to my parish recently and he looks unhealthy, I finally got a chance to talk to him today and found out he's going through a difficult time. He's apparently having a lot of health problems (his skin is discolored and tight against his bones, I don't know what's exactly wrong other than he looks pretty bad and he said he's sick, and he has sleep issues), and his wife left him and from the sounds of things it was bad for him and I think he got divorce raped. He mentioned he's depressed and in despair often. He also hasn't been to church in years and is thinking about staying at my parish.

Aside from being welcoming of him and encouraging him to stay and praying for him, what can I do? I was thinking about finding some prayers to give him, or giving him something like a prayer rope or icon.

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92dafe  No.766254

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he's free now, he should be fine

bd3e0f  No.766273


Hang out with him. Make a barbecue together or something, go to the gym together, just be bros.


NPC view on divorce. Divorce is only acceptable in extreme circumstances like infidelity, and even then it is not required.

3aa9b1  No.766605


he looks ~30 years older than me, but I'll try to befriend him

26d793  No.766609


Get him talking about his life, he may have some interesting stories. He sounds like a veteran.

18460f  No.767214


Don't be disingenuous.

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b65480  No.766454[Reply]

Pope Francis Calls on Chinese Bishops to Show 'Loyalty' to Communist Party…

The former bishop of Hong Kong, Cardinal Joseph Zen, told Breitbart News in an interview last week that Catholics in China are suffering…


The Vatican newspaper, L’Osservatore Romano, published an article Sunday in Italian, English, and Chinese, saying that the pope has invited “all the Bishops to renew their total adherence to Christ and to the Church.” At the same time, “as members of the Chinese people, they are obliged to show respect and loyalty to the civil authorities.” The article stated that this is how the bishops are to understand the words of Jesus: “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s” (Mt 22:21). The state-run Chinese newspaper, Global Times, called the statement the pontiff’s “latest goodwill gesture toward Beijing.” Pope Francis “has called on seven Chinese bishops, whose pastoral duties were made public on Sunday, to show ‘respect and loyalty to civil authorities’ while adhering to their faith,” the article stated. “The announcement shows that the Vatican is calling on all the clergy and the faithful, including those who regard themselves as from the ‘underground churches,’ to be in solidarity and to support the bishops’ pastoral duties,” said Wang Meixiu, a research fellow at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, according to the Global Times.

The former bishop of Hong Kong, Cardinal Joseph Zen, told Breitbart News in an interview last week that Catholics in China are suffering “huge confusion” because of the recent deal between the Vatican and the Communist Party of China (CPC), which yielded some authority to the government over the naming of Catholic bishops. “The provisional agreement between the Holy See and the Chinese government is a secret deal,” the cardinal said, “and no one knPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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ec5c5b  No.766894

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triggering time for the CCP watchers on 8ch

f7cc3c  No.767041


I put that in Google translate…

Is that everything you aren't allowed to search in China? (It's ok if the CCP is watching my keystrokes it don't matter because Canadians can't go to the Chinese mainland without being held hostage because of a certain American extradition order)

Also Xi is Winnie the Pooh's evil cousin, it's canonical :^)

339363  No.767156


the problem with Christianity and most libertarians is that they think being free of the State is equated with being free of God. obviously this is not the case. the State doesn't really care what you do behind closed doors or what the interior of your heart is.

8b4073  No.767158

Matthew 22:21.

All the shitflinging ITT is pointless.

376072  No.767173



t. baptist

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486e4e  No.760899[Reply]

Anyone here ever tried giving God the praise and worship anyway when they are pissed off and things aren't going their way?

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651497  No.766899


Why post an image making fun of atrocity?

6d95f9  No.766925

It's harder for me to forget faults from my fellow humans (but I need to work on this too). Before I was a Christian, I really didn't think about God enough.. and afterward, I don't have these type of frustrations. I'm just humbled and realize I must seek more wisdom or realized I missed something God was telling me.

9217b8  No.766936


Sounds pretty cucked.

8e506e  No.767094


Hey buddy I think you're on the wrong board.

9bd955  No.767095

I pray to God when angry, sometimes…

But I always feel like it stems from my own pride when I do so, and it hinders me.

I don't know if this is me seeing my self truthfuly, or deceit of the devil.

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031945  No.765810[Reply]

I'm note sure whether I should attend university and then go into seminary or if I should just start working. Basically for mental health reasons I was a NEET for years. I'm going back to get our equivalent of a GED now which hopefully would let me start studying theology and philosophy at a university level.

The problem is that I would be done with my bachelor's degree by the time I was 27. I feel like it's something you should be done with at 23-24 at the latest so I'm really apprehensive. I'm afraid everyone will think I'm an old loser.

I would like to either keep studying for as long as possible, I'm not good at working with my hands or at socializing. If they would let me attend seminary I'd love to do a 2 or 4 year stint but I'm not sure I want to become a priest or a monk. Maybe I could just live on food stamps and write bad poetry for the rest of my life.

Anyway I'm not really sure whether I should keep studying once I get my GED or just start working at Starbuck's. All of my teachers and family members have encouraged me to go to uni but I'm not sure how objective they can be. Do you have any experience studying at university/college level? Any experience with seminary? University is free in my country so I wouldn't need to take out big student loans.

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031945  No.766769


Thanks man, I appreciate it.

fd816a  No.766773

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Theologians pass down and retain knowledge. Like St. Thomas Aquinas. (Pic related) his proof for God is so dangerous to fedoras and other satanists that they go full retard when you bring it up. His writing helps us as Christians better understand Christianity. Theologians are a force for good, wether or not negative nancies like (you) can see that.

bde3f0  No.766774


That’s why you vet your school before you apply for it.

Don’t apply for any school with a “the Bible and intersectional feminism” course

a19928  No.766775


But he isn't. Look, even his unmoved mover argument was plagiarized by Feuerbach who dropped the rebuttal and only presented the counter-point and modern atheists eat it right up.

If anything, Aquinas has provided the modern atheist with ammunition.

They're immune to the Augustinian tradition as well since concepts like beauty have been so perverted as to mean the opposite.

31d519  No.766919

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>If anything, Aquinas has provided the modern atheist with ammunition.

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deb881  No.765709[Reply]

Is there like a confession of desire or something? I ask because of an incident this morning

>be a Catholic

>have a ton of personal/spiritual issues

>missed church repeatedly for over a month

>took communion without having gone to confession first

>masturbate every day

>need confession

>”crap, it’s sunday morning, I don’t think they do confessions today!”

>go to Catholic Church near me

>priest standing outside

>15-20 minutes to next mass

>ask priest “is there anyone who can do confessions before the next service”

>”ah I’m sorry, we do confessions Saturday and on weekdays”


>”let me ask you where do you go to church?”

>”well, I should be going here”

>”I see”

>priest places hand on my forehead and does the absolution prayer

>”alright, now behave yourself”

Is that right? I guess I kinda confessed about the missing mass before he absolved me, but what about the other stuff? Was that a valid absolution?

Pic unrelated

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8ebff5  No.766536


The issue is Paul addressing is people believing that God is obligated to save them because of their works. He's warning against believing that salvation is a transaction where you do good things and in return God must reward you. Salvation is not a transaction you make with God nor is it a contract. God will bestow his grace on anyone who makes an earnest effort to follow Christs example and teachings, but you didn't earn that grace, you got gifted it completely out of Gods goodwill and love for you.

The point Paul is trying to make is that Christian life is not a LARP where you try to accumulate enough XP from good works to be accepted into Gods kingdom. Nobody is deserving of Gods grace but he chooses to bless some individuals with it anyway based on whether they truly accept and know him through the teachings of the Son, Jesus Christ. Works are a tangible indicator of your faith and acceptance of Christ, without them your "faith" is just hot air.

This is the interpretation that best matches what we see in the scriptures. Jesus makes it very clear that he will either accept or reject his followers based on their actions in life. James says that faith without works is dead (i.e not a saving faith). Paul says that it is faith in God that saves, not the works themselves. All of these facts are reconciled in the above view that:

1. Grace is never merited, it is a gift given by God because of his love for humanity

2. Without works there is no such thing as a saving faith

3. Christ will reject some of his supposed followers based on the fact their actions did not show them to be true followers of Him in life.

b00c23  No.766545


>Works are a tangible indicator of your faith and acceptance of Christ, without them your "faith" is just hot air.


>Jesus makes it very clear that he will either accept or reject his followers based on their actions


I think you're just being loose in your wording. Do you affirm sola fide?

895fd3  No.766719



tl;dr I think his absolution was valid, but not licit.

Watch this pronto.


>Calling the Holy Mass """service"""

6bd83b  No.766878


Imagine thinking that you will ever know your eternal security for sure. Or that of anyone else. Much less due to any deeds or lack of them.

Christians hope for salvation; for that, they place their trust in their Lord, ask for His grace, and so on.

6bd83b  No.766883

To anyone who thinks that prots and catholics disagree on _that_ much:

This joint declaration by the Catholic Church and some Lutherans might illustrate how the two denominations agree on surprisingly a lot:


>The present Joint Declaration has this intention: namely, to show that on the basis of their dialogue the subscribing Lutheran churches and the Roman Catholic Church[9] are now able to articulate a common understanding of our justification by God's grace through faith in Christ. It does not cover all that either church teaches about justification; it does encompass a consensus on basic truths of the doctrine of justification and shows that the remaining differences in its explication are no longer the occasion for doctrinal condemnations.

>Thus the doctrinal condemnations of the 16th century, in so far as they relate to the doctrine of justification, appear in a new light: The teaching of the Lutheran churches presented in this Declaration does not fall under the condemnations from the Council of Trent. The condemnations in the Lutheran Confessions do not apply to the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church presented in this Declaration.

(read the text itself for specific points and comparisons)

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e33f54  No.757798[Reply]

Just discovered Swinburne knocking down some atheist talking points, he has good arguments and explanations for theism and Christianity.

currently reading one of his books too (called Was Jesus God?).

Here's a funny little exchange he had with WLC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a4MHbXVIfs

Funny in the sense of being so erudite and nit-picky.

And Swinburne against some sort of naturalist who denies the soul, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0VfrSRSLo4

Post more high-IQ Christian thinkers.

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c08c4f  No.764028

I like bishop Fulton Sheen. The guy is witty and manages to explain things to a wide audience without overexplaining things

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213f3f  No.766561


Sheen is awesome

t. Orthodox

1fa4ee  No.766606


Yeah Sheen really helped me a lot. He was such a great speaker and he existed in just the right time when Catholic orthodoxy could still be voiced in public, while recognizing the storm lurking on the horizon. He's a great guide for being a Catholic in modern times, and the way he talks about things without needing to walk on eggshells because of PC culture is a breath of fresh air.

3f44eb  No.766703



Sheen was very pro-ecunemical though, he praised Vatican II and liked to quote Protestant writers at times.

If anything, Sheen is an example of how you can be loyal to the Church and still hope for the unity of all Christians.

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77687d  No.766012[Reply]

Is Football a Christian game?

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0fc2c9  No.766199

It seems in my more enthusiastic, fresh life as a Christian, I was even more doubtful of things like football than now. Sometimes I wonder if I'm actually better off for lightening up over the years (I don't watch it.. but I don't exactly condemn it either). In those early days, it seems I could barely stand anything that passes for entertainment. My parents thought I was sick. But maybe it's everyone else.. and now my own self.. who are the sick ones. I mean, I ended up resorted to other old habits as time went on.. watching movies again, listening to my old favorite metal bands again.

It's probably all crap. Don't make the same mistake as me. I'm trying to get back to basics as we speak.

3e3241  No.766407


This tbh, sports are good when they encourage healthy living and community; when they're trans-national sports empires that employ an army of roided mercenary eeyores to "represent" large regions, not so much.

If their "progressive" PR strategy and homo-halftime shows are any indication, the Negro Felon League doesn't have your best interests at heart.

5ffe7f  No.766485


No because watching a bunch of men get on top of each other and touch each other is gay and gay is a sin.

b43208  No.766487


Your father wiped your butt when you were a baby.

9bed62  No.766488

Games are fine.

Gambling is not.

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693663  No.765238[Reply]

Should a Christian care about stuff like this? Pic was spotted today in a Netflix documentary.

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5f827b  No.765300


Imagine having an IQ this low


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8e773f  No.766383

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51769e  No.766387

everyone needs to be aware of Jewish machinations against their host country

f87e1d  No.766404


With Asians it's mildly plausible (and the Lord knows there are certain people trying their damnedest to get places like Japan to accept the suicidal "open" immigration practices of the western serf nations, to limited success), but with Africans it's basically impossible. Their is insufficient non-African population on the Earth, and insufficient pressure to move to African countries (due to the predictably abysmal quality of life). This is assuming there's no crash in the African population and fertility rate (which itself would happen in the event of a collapse of the will/ability of western nations to support Africa; but in such a state of collapse the system of globalized mass movement of peoples is likely kaput too, so the point is moot).

That being said, even if my own nation (and the other nations of my co-racials) weren't threatened by this, I can as an exercise of Christian charity recognize the injustice of it being perpetrated on other races, as should anyone. Tibet for instance is a good example of ethnic-destruction-through-mixing, although that's intra-racial as the Chinese hope to sino-cize the region through importation of Chinese.

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f62511  No.765199[Reply]

Can anybody tell me what Jehovas Witnesses believe? And why they are always knocking at my door?

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d5f55e  No.766259


>Dude they get paid for what they do

no they don't. However, there are those who spend 8 hours every day preaching. They are called special pioneers. They don't have time for a job, thus they get money for their daily needs. But its not like they get the money for the work itself. its just that every human needs food, clothes and a roof over their head.

Witnesses go out on their free time, and every expense that is required to go from door to door. they pay for themselves. Even their bible studies are free.

d5f55e  No.766260


fun fact. in 2018 they used 2 074 655 497 hours, in total in their preaching work

6b6e04  No.766303


>Can anybody tell me what Jehovas Witnesses believe? And why they are always knocking at my door?

1. Open your door.

2. Ask.

f15cac  No.766305



Since this thread has become abit about evangelization, what are some good methods for this? I was thinking about setting up a stall at the farmer's market, giving out books,talking to people and maybe free cookies or something


No it isn't, literally just walk into any church and the people there will help you join.

d5f55e  No.766315


Jesus set an example for his apostles on how to reach people. apparently going door to door in a group of two people, was his idea Mark 6:6-12

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2e2ae3  No.765685[Reply]

"Protestantism, Orthodoxy, and Catholicism-all of it is bad"

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22d7aa  No.765796


>Everyone wrong

>Me right

24ca4d  No.766309


Isn't it funny how there's only one kind of church out there that believes and urges belief fully in what scripture says as the word of God and thus the final authority while everyone else is scrambling to argue that it's all relative? It's interesting that there's exactly one group like this while other people always want to try to minimize its true status as God's word.

>This reasoning only works on the weak and ignorant.

Ok, you're going to have to do better than this. Please explain exactly what you mean here and what you're objecting to so that we can do a better job of answering you. From what it seems you are simply being overly trusting of current day scholarship (despite the evidence of how far it's fallen) as something that cannot fail and placing all hopes on the accolades of man.

28e43f  No.766312


>Gets caught telling a lie

>Doubles down with more lies

I'd say I'm sorry if you legitimately believe that you're the only group that believes in the Bible because your pastor told you, but the bible tells us this:

James 1:5 If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you.

No seriously, if your local pastor says "Everyone is OBVIOUSLY lying and not even trying to listen to the word of God and we're the only pure group", and you just fall in and believe it, then you need those verses like right now.

b03d4b  No.766313

No offense but….


>taking over a sacred thing

>and making it their own/corrupted

Color me scantily surprised.

24ca4d  No.766314


>Gets caught telling a lie

Can you explain this accusation at all?

>I'd say I'm sorry if you legitimately believe that you're the only group that believes

Depends on what you mean by "only group." If you mean you already forgot what I said about Matthew 16:18 then it's your loss. There is one type of church that recognizes God's word throughout history, that's the kind that Matthew 16:18 is about.

>because your pastor told you

Hmm, I've been quoting scripture, so I'm not sure where this came from. Did it come from your own imagination that I said this? Wouldn't that qualify as you telling a lie about me just now?

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fb26a3  No.758042[Reply]

Okay can we please have a discussion about what the winnie the pooh is going on in the world today? I sincerely believe tribulations are upon us.

- moral bankruptcies

- "liberal" education agenda

- hyper conservitism past the point of caricatures

- media brainwashing

- hyper consumerism

- global warming (inb4 conspiracy, I'm talking about the general fact the world is changing)

-islam converging on europe

There is no safe place other than our Churches

There is no hope to be seen other than Christs fulfilment

Are we truly entering the end times?

I wish Christ would come. I wish he would judge me for my sins. I do not want to continue to live in this world where temptations continue to grow and evolve.

I pray for him to come every week of my life.

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373647  No.766271


Aristotle wasn't omniscient. I'm sorry you are completely unwilling to accept the meaning of "infinite". God identifies Himself as "I AM THAT I AM", which carries the connotation of being sufficient for His own existence. The name Yahweh comes from this phrase, Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh. "Yahweh" is a third-person version of the same phrase, "He who Is".

e90e66  No.766272

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>le who created god meme

25643e  No.766274


>Are we truly entering the end times?

Maybe. It could begin 10 seconds later after this post is done.

>I wish Christ would come. I wish he would judge me for my sins. I do not want to continue to live in this world where temptations continue to grow and evolve.

We all do. And I think the worst is yet to come. The worst will be when the price tag is put on absolutely everything. Even your breath or your death.

>I pray for him to come every week of my life.

Every "day". Every ounces of our thoughts. With all of our hearts.

082fab  No.766278


>Are we truly entering the end times?

Perhaps. God rests beyond time in the eternity. People have a different sense of time anyway.

Judging by the degeneration we can assume we find ourselves to be in end times. But…if you lived in 1920s Weimar Berlin you would find yourself among similar degeneration. Yet, Jesus did not come back then. The Rome was also very degenerate. Also I think Jesus himself said he will come when people do not expect it. I do not think it is sensible to predict his coming as some preachers in US do.

>I wish Christ would come. I wish he would judge me for my sins. I do not want to continue to live in this world where temptations continue to grow and evolve. I pray for him to come every week of my life.

That's fair enough, However oru task is not to pray for the end, nor it is to wish to be absolved of our struggle. The world may as well go along for 150+ years or so. It may well be true, it may well be all over in 10 years. We do not know. All symptoms point to world going through an end of an era .Liberal democracy probably has its day. Our people are in great peril, so is Christianity but I do not think this is the end yet. The change will come, we will see it in our lifetimes, for sure. About everything ending soon I am not so sure however.

Our task is clear. To shine through the darkness as the remnants of a glorious army that shall triumph eventually when Christ returns. We are already on the winning team just have to do our part to share the glory and not urn in hell for eternity.

73205a  No.766283

Note: nearly all Christians since the Ascension have believed themselves to be in the end times.


>Microchip meme

Stop this.

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5df7b9  No.765631[Reply]

Why are atheist on the internet so aggressive and have a hive mentality? Every creationist video on Youtube is excessively down voted regardless of how good the arguments are, and in the comment section ad hominems and the same shitty atheist mantras are repeated over and over again like

>science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings

>if god real why bad thing happen

and these awful comments are up voted to oblivion, they rarely make a good argument, or any argument at all.

When someone say they'll be praying for someone, or when someone who might even be a secular person says "thank god" it triggers them into making a snarky reply. They're in every Youtube video ready to down vote and make an autistic comment, on every Youtube reply they don't like like the one I just mentioned, every post on Twitter by a Christian account that doesn't involve them, everywhere online. Even music videos of Christmas music isn't safe.

I'd say atheist are to Christians on the internet as Pharisees were to Jesus (minus the crucifixion), just following him around in his life and just scoffing at him and making edgy remarks.

Why do they act like this, seriously? I'm just so tired of seeing the same case over and over again. I just can't understand their behavior as to why they're like this whatsoever. And it's surprising because of atheist specifically (and not just non-religious or unaffiliated people) make up such a small percent of the population, they make is seem like they're much larger than they really are. Does anyone have a possible explanation as to why they're like this?

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a5f5e6  No.766228


>I mean sure, I am not going to study STEM and be an actual scientist,

Lmao didn't get that you were joking lad.

702636  No.766230

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>Also just thing about it, if it wasn't for religion we could all be exploring the stars right now. Religion has been holding science back for centuries. Once we have broken the chains of superstition, reason will set us free. I mean sure, I am not going to study STEM and be an actual scientist, but I will provide intellectual artillery.

It isn't religion that did that. It's Rationalism (as opposed to Empiriicism. They are NOT the same).

Sadly, the church (especially in the West, but sometimes the East with it's Gnostic heretics) attached itself to rationalism too strongly, via a fascination with Plato and Aristotle.. but it was a mistake. They have nothing to do with Christian thinking on it's own. Take it from Carl Sagan himself. Even he is fair about it, and doesn't churn out the usual highschool meme that it's "religion's fault".

a431cc  No.766238


>They have nothing to do with Christian thinking on it's own

That's a false reading, there has been plenty of philosophical pruning of pagan aspects of Aristotle. You could at least READ St. Aquinas' commentary on it before you pretend to be an authority.

5f3034  No.766251


Aquinas himself disavowed his own writings. And if you're willing to believe it, I experienced something probably similar to what he did. Perhaps just a dose. But even that changes and humbles you. Just like it did St. Paul, who, "was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

Sadly, you Thomists strangely hang on every word that the author himself didn't want you to. And then tell others to submit to them to boot. I think not. It is all but "straw", as he said. Learn now or the hard way that you shouldn't dissect the Mystery of God.

a431cc  No.766252


>Aquinas himself disavowed his own writings.

Complete nonsense, Aquinas saying that all of his writings are "like straw" compared to even a momentary glimpse of the Beatitude isn't a refutation of his own work, and nobody has ever considered it as such.

>And if you're willing to believe it, I experienced something probably similar to what he did

No, I'm not.

Is that you, Planetar?

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