/asatru/ - Asatru / Heathenry / Paganism

This isn't at all difficult to achieve. The way it seems that most of you perceive this is as actual memories, which is a very understandable misconception. We think of memories most commonly as flashbacks of past experiences involving our senses.

The hereditary memory is, I suggest, instead an underlying baseline of what a human truly is. This definition, which is in its most pure form in our Nordic folk, has been maintained in our European DNA for ages. We have maintained the primal knowledge of our ancient ancestors in some form, but it has been suffocated by our modern thinking and false science.

Our ancestors did not know less than we do now, as science leads most to believe, they were intimately familiar with the way the world, and indeed the universe worked. This primal and true understanding is, I believe, the hereditary memory of which we speak, a memory of our roots which lies deep within the spirit of our Nordic blood.

>>6980

I believe it the AFA and Mcnallen both say that Asatru is about "coming home" and that is how I felt when I became Asatru. When I was a child I was always in love with winter, mountains, even Santa Claus/Christmas. I would stare out the window at the snow and our Christmas lights in amazement and seem to inherently know or imagine some kind of feeling that I used to know in a distant past. I would literally sit in our living room late at night when everyone was sleeping and gaze at the christmas tree full of lights all night. Even after I was told Santa and all that shit was "fake" I still did it. Some kind of long lost memory associated with winter, lights, and fur/wool tunics and hats. Fuck I still love the image of Santa and have even incorporated him into my Asatru beliefs just thinking of him as a another aspect of Odin. Which is funny because Santa was modeled after Odin.

FYI Santa Claus' outfit is pretty much modeled after Viking style tunics maybe not the same color but in the hat was called a "Rus" hat.

>>6997

SJW? What you are a fucking retard.?Someone already addressed who the Aryans were you seem to labor under the delusion that Aryan just means "Blonde hair blue eyes" which is the Nazi belief of what an Aryan is. But Aryans were an actual group of people way back in Ancient Europe. I never even mentioned skin color so holy shit are you fucking retarded.

Even fucking Varg aknowledges this. Read a book before shitposting retard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpgdmQc1oSI

You fucking newfag

>>7000

>>7001

>Samefagging this hard

>Strawmanning this hard

>Trolling and shitposting this hard

No one said "Aryans" were Indians. They were European I even stated that you fucks. I even posted of video of Varg stating that Germanics are not Aryans. Germanics descend from Indo-Europeans and Aryans were a different European group at the time who eventually migrated. Even anthropology backs me up you dumb fucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpgdmQc1oSI I will post the video again I suggest you watch it.

>>7003

The only one shitposting here is you, germanophobe

You retarded fuck, aryans are germanic. If you deny this you are an anti-white and are on the same side as the libcucks who want and enforce white genocide.

The equation goes like this:

>Whites = Nordic = Germanic = Aryans

It is literally that simple.

You can still admit that germanics are aryan. Try to educate yourself instead of spouting memes and ad hominem buzzwords and being a general obnoxious fucking retard who shitposts with too much time on his hands.

>>7293

Careful not to lump in whites and asians on here. Some of these people think that Asians might as well be niggers. Despite the fact that Asians and Whites have the most Neanderthal DNA in them out of any other race and even despite the fact that even Varg states that whites and asians could have been from the same Neanderthal tribe that splintered off thousands of years ago. And that both groups are not even in the slightest African in the least. But whatever people still cling to the "Aryan" myth. As if Aryan and Germanics are one and the same. Even Varg disputes this.

Want to make some comments about the terms Germanic, Nordic, Aryan etc:

"Nordic" refers to Scandinavia. As such, an Englishman and a German might be Germanic, which is an ethno-cultural term, but are not nordiC. They may, however, exhibit nordiD phenotypes. They may, however, not - they may exhibit fairly Cro-Magnid phenotypes which brings me to the point on the term "aryan".

As I understand it, "aryan" refers to the Indo-Europeans. The proto-Germanic people have not entirely clear origins, but a fairly strong theory based on genetics and linguistics is that they came about from the Indo-European people of the corded ware culture, carrying mostly Y-chromosome haplogroup R1a, went westwards into southern Scandinavia and mixed with the indigenous European (pre-Germanic or pre-Indo European) Scandinavians, who spoke a pre-IE language and carried mostly y-haplogroup I1. This created what could be described as a proto-Balto-Slavic culture. Later, a different Indo-European people migrated north from roughly Germany to southern Scandinavia, speaking seemingly a language related to early Celtic or proto-Celtic languages and carrying the Unetice culture and mostly y-haplogroup R1b. This "three-way mix" is what created the proto-Germanic language and culture with the Nordic bronze age and it can seen that Germanic countries' y-chromosome haplogroups are mostly R1b (mostly R1b-U106, the "Anglo-Saxon" branch of the haplogroup found mostly around the north sea), R1a and I1. As such, a large part of Germanic people is not "Aryan" but is in fact pre-Indo-European indigenous European. This can be seen in that some ethnic, let's say, Danes have the typical "Nordic" (read: nordid" features of being tall and thin with long, narrow skulls and oval shaped faces while others are bigger-boned and have rounder, wider skulls inherited from their Cro-Magnid I1-carrying ancestors.

tl;dr both nordic and aryan are kind of dumb words, let's just stick to Germanic.

poles aren't german, foky

>>8338

Aryan used to be the widely used term for European peoples still in the 20th century. Screw your irrelevant genetics babble and wordplay.. You are only dividing the Aryan peoples.

Go look at haplogroup maps. Most Europeans (Aryans) are near identical genetically.

I would wager you think the term, the correct term for our people, Aryan, is 'dumb' because you're too insecure to use it.

>>7299

>>6989

>even varg

>Santa is a Viking

The origins of Santa are connected to the amanita mascaria traditions of both Slavic and Nordic culture

>>8360

"Slavic culture" IS nordic-derived and thus northern germanic in itself. Kievan Rus was literally founded by vikings sailing down the Volga and settling in eastern europe.

>>8363

Re: santa

>>8364

>read article

>draws connections between SIBERIAN SHAMANS and santa claus

are you fucking retarded kid? Santa Claus is a Germanic tradition

>>8367

No

>>8367

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://ahcult.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/the-sacred-mushroom-and-the-cross-john-allegro.pdf&ved=0CBkQFjAAahUKEwi_v6Tj7s3IAhXIGJQKHUAXCec&usg=AFQjCNHZ3_raBQv0ngRtUqV771JkVdnxhQ

>>8372

just thought i'd shed some light on santa for our touchy feely tripfriend, even if i am the worst poster ever. Glad to see you cut through my innane shit and really got the point of what i was trying to post, cheers.

>>8376

>chocolate letters are the runes

dude never thought about it that way, though i think the poems are more like a way to deal with stuff and make fun of the people on the receiving end

>>8386

Actually shittalking in poems in old norse has a specific word, thats how old a tradition it was. It was called flyting. Loki and Odin are both known to be proficient flyters.

Absolutely it is possible. That is why, for example, Stan Jones sat down to write a song about cowboy life and instead ended up with a song about the Wild Hunt.

I don't think we have much to explain how it works, though.

I apologize for still being obsessed with Riders in the Sky. I just find this particular case extremely fascinating.

>>8393

yeah, santa's attire used to be brownish until coca cola used him for marketing

>>8387

I was talking about banter in Sinterklaas poems specifically.

Bump

>>8363

There were other Slavic tribes besides Rus, big boi

>>8744

>>8743

Put your trip back on redditor. "Slavs" = Eastern germanics. Period.

>>8760

Slavs =/= Eastern Germanics

You've actually made a pretty good thread, FoKy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dcXlSL4w34

In The Astral World by Swami Panchadasi, the author claims there are 'shades' and 'spectres' dwelling in the astral realm, which survive merely from the leftover powers of their past selves; "These spectres are really astral shells from which the souls have departed, but which have left in them sufficient power, arising from the former thought and will vibrations of their owners, to give them a temporary semblance of life and action,". In numerous other books you find references to 'thought atmosphere', and in general ways in which a persons thoughts and energy affect the world around them without them being present themselves. The Book of Knowledge also famously describes a method of deep meditation in order to slowly change your DNA.

I don't think it's that much of a stretch (if you prescribe to all the above occult stuff being true), that if a person goes through a traumatic event (or any event which causes an extremely high amount of emotion), that they could inadvertently cause some impression of that event in their DNA/bloodstream (especially if said person already had a deepseated instinct for protecting their own kin, spreading their genes etc - their subconscious could work overtime to make sure that this happened).

But the depth of that impression would depend entirely on the event and mindset/spirituality of the person (e.g. a spritual person getting mauled by a bear is going to leave a bigger mark than an atheist getting stung by a bee, lmoa). It's all very well and good having these impressions expressed as instincts (it could partially explain why so many people with Germanic blood are suddenly drawn to Asatru in an age of degeneracy and anti-spirituality), but actually retrieving them is another matter.

I have a friend who claims to see past lives, and here it goes into whether the past lives of the Ego = lives of the ancestors. Could be for some, could be for none, I have no idea. But has anyone tried accessing their past lives? If you are good at meditation you should try it out.

This http://www.healpastlives.com/pastlf/exercise/exregres.htm is some guide I found. The site itself looks kinda naff but the guide, in theory, and with enough meditative skill, should work. All it could take is adjusting everything written there to look specificallly at ancestor's lives instead of 'past lives' (though they could be the same thing). I am going to try this out eventually.

>>8899

^_^

Have you ever tried contacting ancestors or past lives fam?

>>8902

aye

>>8903

gay

As far as I'm aware birthmarks are just expansions of tissue by random mutations. And you can get them in place where it is unlikely to of been a fatal wound unless it festered. Always possible though I suppose.

>>8904

okay i apologize fair maiden

>>8903

this is an interesting idea but ive never heard it before, say someone has a birthmark on their big toe? what, were they achilles in a past life?

i have visions sometimes but im unsure if it is connected to any ancestry. I see more visions of gods and spirits than ancestors, however spirits and ancestors may be one and the same

>>8905

Achilles was the heel not the toe lmoa

How did you start these visions? Intentionally?

>>8906

I know, but foot injuries in general are not lethal was my point

No, not intentionally, first time I got heat stroke and dehydration while I was out in the desert. I became disoriented and started puking and my mind was in incredible pain. I fell to my knees and looked upwards, and the mountains ahead of me had turned into the faces of ancient kings and warriors, their faces roughly made from the mountains rocks, and their eyes were caves and the top of the helmets were peaks. They were all looking down upon me. I screamed and passed out.

>>8907

Yeah. Like I said it could be if the wound got infected, they got cancer there, etc, it would be fatal. But it's a longshot. I think birthmarks are just birthmarks. Even so could be interesting for someone who has one to meditate on it and see whot happens

>No, not intentionally, first time I got heat stroke and dehydration while I was out in the desert. I became disoriented and started puking and my mind was in incredible pain. I fell to my knees and looked upwards, and the mountains ahead of me had turned into the faces of ancient kings and warriors, their faces roughly made from the mountains rocks, and their eyes were caves and the top of the helmets were peaks. They were all looking down upon me. I screamed and passed out.

God damn. fucking brutal.

That sounds more like a hallucination then something actually spiritual tho. But the line between them is blurred I guess. Have you had ones when you weren't 'unhealthy'?

>>8896

>This http://www.healpastlives.com/pastlf/exercise/exregres.htm

Taking a gander around that site, it looks like one of those cringe inducing New Age/Astrology/Psychic Friends Network type sites.

The front page http://www.healpastlives.com/ mentions things like Karma, Law of Attraction, Human Rights, and New Age Marketing.

>>8909

Yeah as I said the site itself is shit. But the method might work

>>8910

Fair enough.

>>8908

to me hallucinations are the way to see into the otherworld. Hippies and new agers have ruined this whole idea, if you read the sagas and ancient stories, dreams and visions were how the ancients had premonitions and guidance from the gods, and they were just as abstract then. Dreams and hallucinations are windows into the spirit realms.

also, take the idea of spiritual blindness in western religion. Almost all the pagan religions believed that blind men had spiritual insight, and would grow to become sages (I've heard some the druids would blind themselves with ritual knives)

this is the key mystery to Odin sacrificing his own eye in order to gain mimirs wisdom. By sacrificing one eye and placing it in mimirs well, literally "the well of memory", a kenning for the mind. Odin destroys his physical eye and it is put inside his mind and becomes a sort of third eye, an eye that gives him insight to the spiritual realms. He is half blind, and so constantly half stuck in the spirit realm, seeing half visions of the future (only his wife frigga has fully mastered premonitions)

I'm not saying you should all go out and blind yourselves, but I think there is some truth to it. Maybe the blind really do see more than the seeing can. Its the ultimate contradiction and sacred paradox of a blind seer, literally "see-er"

just my thoughts

>>8922

I remember reading about how various Heathens viewed time (the past in particular) as being a series of layers; one on top of the other, symbolizing how our actions build upon each other and set the foundation for the future. Of how the Norns watering the roots of Yggdrasil, were essentially taking these layers and pouring them all over the roots to affect action and change.

Along these lines, Odin, sacrificing his eye, essentially dropped his eye into the very bottom of the well of these established layers, and could thus see and understand everything that had gone before in the past up to now.

>>8922

To me there is a line between insights into other vibratory realms, and just hallucinations. I've met some people like you who believe any and all visions are windows in otherworlds, but I've also met clairvoyants who mistrust a great deal of their feelings and visions. IMO, whatever 'place' you're looking at, your physical brain is still gonna filter and affect what you see. If you are in a clear, calm and aware state like in meditation and AP, this will generally be less filtered, but if you have an overwhelm of emotions you can't control, stress, fatigue, etc, even if it is seeing things through your third eye, I think it will be distorted.

Just my opinion~

>>8932

Oh okay, thanks for clarifying

>what do you mean "people like you"?

I meant 'people who believe any and all visions are windows into otherworlds', but as you just said you don't so